True Crime Vault: Rocky Mountain Horror

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“How many years have your daughters been missing when you love each other?”

Believe about two years. Rob McLeod and Bob Markham are part of a club that nobody wants to join. Fathers of adult women who have gone missing. So these two still grieving fathers join forces to find their daughters. I was really losing hope that she was going to show up on her own. That's when they told me that there were more than KC. There were other people missing.

Despite Jennifer Markham, 25 years old, a single mom. She was lived here in Denver. She lived about 20 miles south of where KC disappeared. He looks Markham and his wife and the eye and says, "Your daughter is dead and I know where she's buried." I had a children run down my spine and I couldn't.

“Did you really really really know how my daughter died?”

At this point, we knew we had a serial killer on our hands. But has he tried to kill before? And I remember screaming, "Stop the car. Why aren't you stopping?" He grabbed him by my face and pushed him out by my face. He went like this and pushed him up.

I thought I was going to lose my brother and never been so scared about life.

This is the story of someone who was so charismatic and yet so debius. That they were able to manipulate the systems to conceal horrific crimes. And in the process, they inflicted excruciating pain on those who cared for and trusted them. But more than anything, it was a betrayal of those closest to this person. And the theft of what we all cherish most, the lives of those we love.

I've had a 35-year career of telling stories and every so often there's one that haunts me. This is one of them.

It's a story that I first covered almost two decades ago, and it begins as a heartbreaking tale of a missing teenager.

Good evening and welcome to 2020. Back in 2008, I began looking into this story. That's when I first spoke to Laurie McCloud, a divorced mother of a beautiful girl, the light of her life. To just happy all the time smiled all the time. This was Laurie back then. This is her today.

Casey was beautiful and sweet. She was a peacekeeper. She didn't make waves. In 2003, Laurie McCloud was living with her daughter Casey, it was 19. I just lived my life with my daughter, and I worked a lot, very simple life, and I liked it that way. She was mid-30s at that point, divorced from her husband, Rob. In spite of the divorce and the drama between her mom and I, Casey was a very bubbly, happy, go lucky kid.

She really was a special kid. As Casey grows into a teenager, Laurie's got a little more of free time, and she enjoys doing a little gambling at a nearby casino. Boston 5 poker, that's her game. I was playing a card game, and he walked in. Scott Campbell met Laurie McCloud when they both went to a casino up in Black Hawk.

Scott was wheeling in his mother, Barb, in a wheelchair, and they all set at the same poker table. He's moving chairs for her so she could play cards. I thought, well, what a nice guy. He's taken care of his mother, and we just started chatting at the table.

“What did he tell you about himself in that first meeting?”

He said he worked for the FBI. Scott was nice, and he was pleasant, and he laughed, and he was funny.

And Laurie believed after many false starts, that this could finally be the man of her dreams.

“Scott Campbell is 36 years old and divorced.”

He's a burly outdoorsy type of a guy with a go-tie and an engaging smile. Guys, like him, and women find him charming. In fact, long before Laurie, Campbell is married to a woman named Larissa. In 1993, Scott married Larissa, and they settled in Spokane, Washington. He was the first time in college.

Mr. and Mrs. Scott, and Larissa. They had two boys together. I was three months pregnant when we got married. Justin was born soon after, and then two and a half years later, had Cody. Did he? Cody?

I just thought that we would be the perfect family.

Campbell is often away from home, working for long stretches, but he always takes time to be with a son's.

Justin and Cody, and he makes them feel special. Here we go, we're going to take care of you. Happy birthday to you. Justin, look up here. What do you think of that?

“We would go paintballing, we would do go cards.”

We would go out to eat almost like every single night. When I sat down with Justin for this exclusive interview, he told me he would need to wear sunglasses to protect his eyes from our bright lights. It's because of a traumatic brain injury that he suffered as a child. But that's his own story, which he will share later for the first time.

My dad was very big on a trying to spoil us.

I see how happy he can make us by just minus whatever he wanted. He was a great dad. He was everything in a dad that I wanted growing up. Justin and Cody were too small to see this, but this whole time, the marriage itself would not strong.

I found out that he was dating and actually living with another woman. In 1996, Larissa filed for divorce, and four years later, she and their two boys moved to the Colorado area. By 2002, Scott Kimball is also living and working in Colorado. Once again, near his boys, Justin and Cody.

A year later, he moves in with Laurie McCloud. Scott Kimball is living with Laurie McCloud at her house in Lafayette. They're getting quite close during this period, and Casey is living at the house as well with her mother, and now this new man who has entered her mother's life.

Where they lived together was a rural area that was largely ranchets, mostly Prairie Land. Scott had two boys of his own, Justin and Cody. And they'd come to visit? Yes, I loved his boys.

And his boys loved your daughter. Oh yeah, they were great with Casey too. Heaven, two little brothers was fun for her. So how did he act around Casey? He acted like the guy every woman would be looking for to be in their child's life.

Unfortunately, Casey is struggling. Her mom's divorce seems to be taking a heavy emotional toll on her. When she was in her later teens, mid teens, she was kind of getting rebellious. Running around with the wrong crowd, doing the wrong things.

Casey had been into drugs, had run away, but she seemed to be coming back into who both robbed and Lori hoped she would become. This video was shot at Casey's high school graduation. It was a time full of hope and promise. I'm really confident that I'll be able to do something with my life after this.

I just want to thank you for inviting me. She had found a new boyfriend, CB. They were both working it subway, and she and CB were serious. They were even talking about marriage at the time. She was trying to get her my kind of back.

“Labor Day of 2003, what made you believe that Casey was doing drugs again?”

Scott brought a vial of something with white substance in it. Crack cocaine or something like that. Right. And I think Casey's in trouble again. And so when I approached her and asked her if she was doing drugs again,

she swore she was not. I didn't believe her. So you told her you're going to take her to the police?

And what happened? So I went in and got my wallet and Scott came in the house. And I said, "Where's Casey?" And he says, "She's outside." And I said, "I'm very certain she will take off." And sure enough, she did.

In the late summer of 2003, Casey McLeod disappears. And William McLeod is understandably upset by this. She was nowhere to be found at that point.

“After a few days, you get a call from Casey, right?”

What did she say? She said, "I am sorry." And I love you. I told her I loved her. That was the last thing we said to each other.

Well, the first indication is that Casey went missing.

And it was Lori gave us a very paddocked phone call. And that Casey had read away. Now, Casey insists that the drugs her mom's boyfriend Scott Kimball finds don't belong to her. But her mom Lori isn't buying it.

So Casey takes off to avoid the police. And she meets up with her boyfriend, CB. I was more angry at her than concern. You know, I mean, I was prayed for her to get her act together and to come home, but in the back of my mind,

“I was a little bit more unhappy with her.”

Kimball is able to locate Casey and her boyfriend, CB, offering them a temporary haven to cool off.

So Scott finds Casey, find CB,

and puts them up in a motel six. And her and her boyfriend lived there for several days unbeknownst to Lori. Tells them, stay away from Lori because she's mad and she'll turn you into the cops.

On August 23, Casey's boyfriend gave her an engagement necklace and she was headed to work. CB comes, kisses Casey goodbye, and CB puts their engagement necklace the one that he bought her around her neck.

Says I love you. Scott shows up at the motel six and offers to take Casey to her job at a subway sandwich shop.

“She gets in the car and off they go to her shift at subway.”

So subway calls a couple hours later.

Both Lori and CB because Casey didn't show up for work. They call each other confused because they have two different stories. CB says Scott took her to work. Lori says no Scott's out hunting. Lori's of course a bit confused

because Kimball had told her he was going to go elk hunting for a few days and wouldn't have been around. When Scott returns from his hunting trip, he's confronted by CB, Casey's boyfriend who insists that he saw Casey get into a truck with Scott

at the motel six and he says where is she? Scott had picked Casey up and CB had seen it. CB confronted him about where Casey was. Scott denied picking Casey up and said he didn't know what CB was talking about.

When I confronted Scott about picking her up to take her to work, he said CB's lying. Did he appear supportive? Well, Casey was missing? Absolutely.

Let's go looking for her. Let's drive her out. With my connections, we'll find her. Scott went with me to the police. So when I am describing my missing daughter,

he's giving information that she had been on drugs before and that she had left before. The police said we aren't looking for her because she's 19 and she's allowed to be missing. And remembers, since Kimball is working with the FBI,

Lori is convinced he's the only one who can help. Scott and I had planned to go to Las Vegas before Casey went missing. I wanted to cancel and he said she's an adult. She'll come home when she's ready.

And we get there. It was just this heavy push. You need me. Let's get married. You know, I can help you.

Nobody else is going to help you. The police made that very clear that they won't help you find her.

He was my only hope of getting her back. Lori was days and distraught at her daughter's disappearance. And in addition, Scott said that he was an FBI agent and nobody would know better how to find Casey than him. It was a drive-through wedding chapel

“where I think you can get French fries with your marriage certificate.”

For the honeymoon, Scott takes Lori up to the mountains and it's in the walled in area and says you just need to relax for a day. We went camping for our honeymoon. Colorado mountains are beautiful and just some peaceful surroundings. And he took off on his four-wheeler to go scouting for a hunting spot.

Days later, it appears that Robin Lori McCloud's prayers

have finally been answered.

When I came home, her necklace was hanging on her bedroom door. And that to everyone was a sign that she had been there. Her necklace was a gift from CB, her boyfriend. I was very happy that she was coming by even if I wasn't there. That just knowing that she was okay.

Scott points to that and says there, now that is proof that she's still around. She's leaving you clues. It's a glimmer of hope but months pass with no other signs from Casey. With the holidays fast approaching, Lori and Rob slip back into despair. Christmas is where's the mile marker I guess.

Christmas Eve, especially at our house, ended up being a big deal.

“I remember the first Christmas she's only missing a few months”

and wondering if she's just going to show up. The 2003 holidays come and go and still no Casey. Lori and Rob are left with only empty chairs at their table

and a bunch of presents that were never opened.

The second Christmas was hoping she'd show up and really, really concerned that she hadn't. It's a constant worry is she hungry. It does she have a coat. And then the third Christmas something's up.

She's sure to show up by now. I remember going to bed and like 10 minutes later,

“it's like midnight and the doorbell rings.”

And I usually sleep. My neighbor was there and she goes, "Oh, I thought I'd come but you know you're garage doors open." The fear and frustration felt by Casey's heartbroken pattern and the fear and frustration felt by Casey's heartbroken pattern. The fear and frustration felt by Casey's heartbroken pattern.

The fear and frustration felt by Casey's heartbroken parents, Rob and Lori McCloud, is becoming overwhelming. And then in 2006, a detective by the name of Gary Thatcher shows up. Yes, he shows up and he says, "I need to speak with Scott Campbell." But detective Thatcher's interest in Scott Campbell is not about Casey,

about a scheme that sends investigators down to a rabbit hole they never imagined.

Gary Thatcher's a young detective with the Latvia Police Department. Mostly he's dealing with white collar crimes in this town where there's not a lot of crime. Lapayette is just 30 minutes from Denver, but it feels like a world away from the big city. This whole thing started with a call from a local bank about check forgery.

In 2006, a heritage bank reported that there was a check fraud and one of their customers had over $50,000 funneled out of his checking account. Thatcher digs deeper into the apparent check fraud case and it's clear someone is forging the bank customer's checks. Detective Thatcher pulls surveillance video from the bank

to see who might have been cashing those forged checks. And sure enough, cameras capture a stocky Caucasian mail with a go-to on numerous occasions, cashing those fraudulent checks. Detective Thatcher saw numerous checks made out to either Rocky Mountain on Natural B for Rocky Mountain cattle company.

Scott Campbell, the same man appearing on that bank surveillance video.

We found that he lives just on the outskirts of Lafayette. Lori said that Scott had taken off and that she didn't know where he was at. At this point, Detective Thatcher doesn't know what or who he's dealing with and he wonders if maybe Lori's covering for her husband. So thatcher invites her in to answer a few questions.

We were trying to decide whether or not Lori was in on this, whether she was a suspect or what was her role on this.

“Any suspicions that Thatcher has about Lori's involvement?”

Well, they disappear when Lori drops a bomb cell that alters the course of the investigation. As we continue talking, she starts to tell me that Scott Campbell is an employee of the FBI. And so of course, I'm like, what do you mean an employee of the FBI? Why would an employee of the FBI be stealing 50,000 plus dollars in money from somebody? I knew there were pieces of Scott's life that just didn't make sense.

Lori also mentions her daughter, Casey. She believes that Scott is going to use his connections with the FBI to help find her daughter, Casey, who had gone missing in 2003. I have a suspect who's committing check fraud. Finding out that he's potentially an employee of the FBI.

And then now she also has a daughter that's missing. See these letters that Scott's the one who picked her up from the hotel to take her to work. And she had them missing.

And to be perfectly honest, at first, I thought Scott knew where she was.

And that's sort of why I kind of want you to hear me by life. It was a lot to take in, especially when you're sitting down and you're expecting to just be talking about a check fraud.

“You must be wondering, is he a FBI agent or a con?”

They did not make sense that he would be an FBI agent. But what Lori was telling me was conflicting with that given that he had a laptop with an FBI seal. He had a badge. He had a gun. We're on that right now as I'm just kind of gathering the information everybody. Kind of give you a grasp of what's going on.

It doesn't seem like he's so pretty. But I think he might run. Saturer was expecting answers, but he was left with only more questions. Chief among them is Scott Kimball actually an agent for the FBI or is he as phony as the checks he was allegedly cashing? Detective Thatcher wants to check the information, of course.

And he calls the FBI. He eventually gets hold of special agent Carl Schloff. Carl Schloff quickly informs me that Scott is actually an informant for them, a operating witness. Fatcher is surprised to learn that it's true. Kimball is working for the FBI as a paid confidential informant.

Gary Thatcher meets with Carl Schloff, the FBI handler who was handling Scott Kimball as a confidential informant. Detective Thatcher told me he was working on a white collar case involved in Kimball. And then he asked me what I knew about Casey's disappearance.

“Thatcher says, Carl, are you aware that in fact Kimball was the last person to see Casey McCloud alive?”

I did not know that, and I told him that. But at triggered another thought in Schloff's head to say that, well, in fact, Scott Kimball was the last one to see another woman who also disappeared in 2003. So that basically at that time, we discussed, well, that's two women now that Kimball was less than alive with. It suggested that Scott was responsible for their disappearance, but we didn't know if they were alive or dead. [music]

Investigators are now trying to connect the dots between Scott Kimball, Casey McCloud, and the disappearance of yet another woman, Jennifer Markum.

When Jennifer was growing up, she was always a happy child. She had a lot of friends. There was no other description, but beautiful.

Bob Markum's nightmare begins in February of 2003 when his daughter Jennifer vanishes from a Denver suburb. And this is six months before Casey McCloud disappears. Johnny described Jennifer Markum, 25 years old, a single mom. She was lived here in Denver. She lived about 20 miles south of where Casey disappeared in the heart of Denver and had a five-year-old named Austin.

Markum was a knockout. She was the type of woman that other strippers envy because all the men were all over.

“I who didn't really like to fact as she was working there, but she was easier to make money there to try and provide a better life for her son.”

She took me to a coffee shop this one day where they served sandwiches and Java coffee and things. She was trying to open a place like that someday. Before she disappears, Jennifer is dating a man named Steve Ennis. Steve Ennis was a good-looking guy, a Jim Rat, the type of guy that in attractive young woman like Jennifer Markum could fall for. This was the guy that she really loved that she really cared about him.

Steve Ennis gets involved dealing ecstasy and gets some time.

Jennifer Markum is visiting Steve Ennis in prison regularly.

Eventually, however, Jennifer Markum stopped showing up. Jennifer goes silent, phone and communications with family.

“Eventually her 1996 green Saturn is found at Denver International Airport.”

But there was no record of Jennifer having ever boarded a flight at DIA. Her car was left in February, but nobody even recovered it until June. We kept looking and then my wife went down to the police officer down on the corner and she asked him if he could run a search on Jennifer. And he said he would.

The following Monday, we had a voicemail from an FBI agent to call him.

That agent is Carl Slough, who's working out of the FBI's Denver Bureau. Agent Slough tells Bob Markum something surprising. They were already looking for Jennifer and had been for a while. In a way flew out to Denver to meet with the FBI in the district attorney. Trying to learn as much as we could possibly learn.

Turns out, Jennifer and her boyfriend Steve Ennis are somehow involved in an ongoing FBI drug investigation. And it's during that investigation that Jennifer vanishes. And then they told me that some guy had her belongings. That didn't make sense to me whatsoever. That guy, Agent Slough says, is a confidential informant working for the FBI who goes by the name Joe.

So I told him we wanted to meet with this person. And so, in the summer of 2005, Bob and his ex-wife Mary meet the informant at a park just outside Denver. We chat now with him in a picnic table. This informant looks Markum and his wife in the eye and says, your daughter is dead. The informant tells Jennifer's parents that their daughter was killed by a drug dealer

and acquaintance of Jennifer's boyfriend, Steve Ennis. I had a chill around down my spine and I couldn't hug. Bob Markum wants desperately to find his daughter. He said, I can take you up and show you where she's at. Up there in the mountains and I know where she's buried.

But Bob Markum, the spotty sense is just going off and he just knows that this man is bad news. I figured if I went to the mountains, my ex-wife and I wouldn't be seeing anymore. But Mary is having a tougher time saying, no. Now it's during this encounter at the park. The Joe the informant takes Mary aside and presents her within in decent proposal.

“A proposal that he says she must keep secret from her ex-husband Bob.”

He says, if you're willing to meet with me at a local hotel, you give me sex. Then I'll tell you what happened to your daughter, but not until then. He made up his own FBI form and he was going to have Mary fill in her name. I do authorized the informant to bind, gag me, engage in sexual activity. Mary is staying in a separate hotel room from her ex-husband Bob and is actually contemplating this.

Mary even wrote a letter to be left in her hotel room instead of anything happens to me. I've gone with the strange man.

Jennifer by now, she's been missing for two years and this FBI informant might be the key. Mary was willing to do whatever it took. Well, they had about two o'clock in the morning. Pico is over and knocks on her door. And she looks through the people and he's sitting there looking through the people there.

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“The most important thing is to be able to understand the story of the most important thing”

to understand the story of the most important thing is to be able to understand the story of the most important thing.

The most important thing is to understand the story of the most important thing. The most important thing is to understand the story of the most important thing. The most important thing is to understand the story of the most important thing. The most important thing is to understand the story of the most important thing. Bob told her if you let that guy in your room he will kill you.

He bangs and yells saying I know you're in there. She still does not answer. They call security. And he ends up peeling out around the parking lots and leaving the hotel. Days later, Bob's ex-wife Mary calls the informant and this time she records the conversation.

Joe, Joe, yeah, it's Mary. Hey, Mary, what's up? Did you really really really know how my daughter died? You had your chance. I couldn't make you perform those things on me.

They always say that means I didn't.

And it means my daughter.

“Some things that I think are important across the fire and I hope it's you.”

So I tell you. I'll show you. I'll show you. It seems as if any leads about Jennifer's squareabouts have dried up. But when Bob met the informant in that park,

he had covertly taken a picture of his license plate. It belonged to Scott Campbell. I called Carl Sloff. If I can't tell him this guy killed my daughter. He felt Campbell was more involved and I supported him on that.

If she is a victim of a homicide, we have to find a body. By 2003, I'd put out all the feelers I could on Jennifer's disappearance. We interviewed countless people. We kind of had a pretty good feeling she was dead. But we didn't have anything to cooperate it.

For investigators in Colorado, what started out as a small check fraud case has exploded into something clearly larger. Little do they know they're just getting started. I first heard the name Scott Campbell in 2004.

It was around this terrible accident where this young boy Justin had been severely hurt.

We've always called it an accident, but it's not an accident.

Whatever you call it, it happened back when Scott was living with Laurie McCloud. His two sons Cody and Justin are visiting for the weekend. Justin is just 10 years old at the time. Honor about July 1st of 2004,

They were outside playing this dad.

Scott told them to dig some holes to try to catch some of the field mice. It was at about 10 o'clock at night. So he takes them out onto the property, which is about five acres or so. And then he has a shovel. Our dad has this idea to go outside and hang out and play.

Which I thought was cool, but I was a little weird because it was pretty late. Definitely dark, yeah, a lot later than any of us usually play outside. When you were 10 years old, right? Yeah. There was this big steel grate that was usually just laying down on the dirt.

But it was propped up against a truck, which I thought was a little weird. The cattle grate was 8 to 10 feet long and they're guessing about 300 pounds.

And he sent Cody inside and then he told me that he wanted me to dig a hole specifically

and like a spot where he pointed on the ground. Right under the grate? He told me to dig this hole. He said I need you to look at the horizon and don't break your stare. Be a good soldier and do what I say.

All of a sudden Justin says he's digging and then he sees a bright light. I saw a bunch of stars flashes in front of him and then came to the big wham. And I heard it hitting me.

“And I remember running back out the door and I just see my dad carrying my brother.”

I just see blood coming from Justin. And he's in a lot of pain and I was very scared that I don't know what's wrong with him. Cody came outside and I just had a huge head injury and I could barely keep conscious. And all I was trying to tell Cody was, "It's a trick." Scott Rabb's Justin throws him in the car and starts heading to the nearest hospital.

Justin is in a state of shock. I was trying to tell him I can't breathe. I need to sit up and roll down the window so I rolled down the window all the way. And as I'm trying to use the door to pull myself up, let's go and I feel the door open.

And I remember screaming, "Stop the car. Why aren't you stopping?" How fast was it going? At least 60 miles per hour. What I do remember when pushing me out was by my face. Because I remember how big his hand was and how warm it felt on my cold face.

He went like this and pushed you up. His whole head covered my face and pushed me out that way. I was holding on one leg right here. One arm right here and the other leg was right here. And I was just remembering screaming, telling him to stop the car.

And it just kept going. I just sort of accepted the fact that I was going to die right then in there. And I let go.

“And then I just remember thinking this guy is going to kill me.”

And he's obviously making me look like an accident. And no one's going to know because I'm going to be dead. However, according to a police report, Kimble has a very different version of the events. Telling officers, he was inside the house.

When Justin was playing on the steel grate, he told him he looked out and saw the large metal grate had fallen on top of Justin. And as for the car ride to the hospital? Scott said I was trying to pull you back in the car. But it's an odd way to do it by putting your hand on his face,

instead of grabbing a coat or something. There were no break marks at the scene, and then allegedly Scott just threw Justin back in through the window. The police report goes on to say that at this time, we have no reason to believe there was any criminal activity involved.

I got a call on my cell phone. From a hospital. We have your son here. He's in the ER. We need you to come to the hospital. It must have been traumatizing for you.

Yes. The surgeon came in and he said, "I just want to tell you right now. It doesn't look good." Justin had been severely hurt, substantial brain damage. It's been about 16 years.

I test that I still have a hard time talking about my brother in that night.

I thought I was going to lose my brother and never been so scared about life.

He was in a coma for a month. I chemically induced coma, and the whole family was standing around. As police officer there, Justin regains consciousness,

“and the first thing that he says is why did Dad do this to me?”

Why did Dad do this to me? The people gathered around Justin and his bed were wondering how could a father possibly have any motive to kill his son?

And a whole lot more terrifying. He says, "Merry Christmas, dig here." And boy, do we all dig?

“Peace and federal custody now arrested after this wild police chase.”

Starting to dawn on you that this guy is a dangerous man.

We've got two women who've never been seen again.

These two dads show up at the FBI office, saying that an informant for the FBI had murdered their daughters. I just wanted her home. I hope in I pray all the time. They can't.

We've told myself, so I can find her. We've got kimbals such a good con man that he duped even the FBI. Kimbals nickname in prison is rather ominous. They call him Hannibal, after Hannibal lector from silence of the lamp. You don't take guys who lie on this life or who won't lie on this life

and get into her best attrition in the day. We just made a deal with the devil. [Music] Much to everyone's surprise, just in recovers. He's in a coma for a month, but he comes out of it.

When you woke up, what's the first thing you said?

I remember saying, "My dad did it."

“Because I remember thinking my last thought before I lost consciousness”

was no one's ever going to know that he tried to do this to me. What in the world would motivate a father to harm maybe even kill his 10-year-old son? Scott stood to benefit $50,000 if Justin died. It turns out there is a life insurance policy on his son, Justin.

And just days before the accident, Kimbals changed the beneficiary, removing his ex-wife Larissa, and making himself the sole beneficiary. How did you feel about that? To be honest, I think I threw up. Because then it all started making sense.

This was no accident.

We call it Justin's very bad day.

The medical personnel at the time said, "Given the extensive amount of brain trauma, Justin has sustained, he could not actually still have independent memories of the accident that had happened." That statement by the neurosurgeon really hurt that part of the case.

For Justin, there was a long comb of lessons ahead.

“And that's why Kimbals Relative is Uncle Terry,”

which shows up to help. Scott's Uncle Terry lived in Alabama. He immediately came out to Colorado to be with his great nephew, and to help him through his recovery. Uncle Terry was recently divorced,

and he's coming to town with his pickup, his camper, his two dogs, and a briefcase full of money from his divorced. Uncle Terry was a little creepy. Yeah, wandered around in his underwear in front of me,

and yeah, he's an odd bird. Pretty soon, Lori comes home from work one day to find Scott in their backyard cleaning account. He said Uncle Terry was embarrassed because one of his dogs vomited on the couch,

and he knew he had ruined it, and he didn't want to face you. So she asked, "Where did your uncle go?" And Scott says, "Oh, he won the lottery and went down to Mexico with a stripper.

You're probably not going to see him for a while." Anyway, I'm like, "Well, for whatever reason Uncle Terry is no longer here, so I'm okay with that." All these series of unfortunate events have detective Gary Fatcher,

and district attorney, Katerina Booth, thanking that Scott Kimball has been passing more than just a few bogus checks. Is it starting to dawn on you that this guy is a dangerous man?

Yeah, absolutely. So Katerina and Gary filed charges that would stick, and those were the check fraud for jury charges. Scott didn't know that I was in contact with the police at this point, and he says, "No, it's a--

they're trying to pin a crime on me that I didn't do, so I'm going to take off for a little while." We were able to determine that Scott was

We got together with the US marshals, and they were able to identify his truck, and then that's when the chase ensued. He leaves police on a three-hour car chase. They put down spikes, he goes off roads.

39-year-old Scott Kimball, a captured yesterday after a four-hour police chase. Part of this traumatic chase even makes the news that night.

Finally, his truck begins to run out of gas.

He puts up his hands, and he gets you down, face down on the ground. We know he's safely in custody.

“What was most important is we needed to keep him in custody.”

There's suspicious that Scott has involved in much more than just financial fraud, and, in fact, in the disappearance of several people, but they don't have any bodies. So prosecutors from Boulder County decide to devise a strategy.

Scott had enough prior felony convictions that he qualified for what we call the Big Bitch.

Big Bitch means habitual criminal.

Turns out Scott Kimball has a long wrap sheave for crimes, including forgery, theft, and fraud. If someone has a wrap sheet that's worth bragging about, you can eventually charge them as a habitual criminal. It can put them behind bars for decades beyond any single charge.

Kimball is behind bars, but the search continues for those two missing women.

“25-year-old Jennifer Markham disappeared in February of 2003.”

Her parents helped direct a billboard in 2006 near the strip club, where she worked as a dancer. After we put up the billboard, I got a call from a reporter, and he was doing an article he said on missing girls of these clubs. We told him that we needed him to put in there

that the last person that Jennifer saw was Scott Kimball. I came across an article about a family who's daughter was missing, and I thought, "Okay, this sounds like what I'm experiencing." And it mentions just out of the blue that the last person she had been seen with has Scott Kimball, and then I just thought, "Oh crap."

Rob McLeod and Bob Markham are part of a club that nobody wants to join. Their fathers of adult women who have gone missing, and both were last seen with a guy named Scott Kimball. Rob reaches out to Bob, and soon they meet, bound by the tragedy they share.

“How many years had your daughter's been missing when you met each other?”

I believe about two years. I felt I was like living in a nightmare or kind of a haze, and when I met Bob, he was like the pitball. Really focused. I asked him if he could call Laurie, because X-Wife,

and see if I could talk to her, I asked her, you know, "Do you know anybody else that is missing?" And she said, "Yeah." Now that you said that, Uncle Terry. He says, "We're going to the FBI tomorrow."

He says, "We are?" "You just go there."

He said he basically drowned in the FBI office.

Rob McLeod and Bob Markham come into the FBI office in November 2006. Both Rob and Bob tell my boss that our informants got Kimball took their daughters. The FBI had an informant linked to two missing women. They realized that they were really hot water here. We were trying to keep the FBI from not only having egg on its face,

but write the wrongs that had happened to these families that we didn't even know was happening. [Music] Rule number one in the FBI is, "Don't embarrass the bureau." That goes with any job you take.

Rob McLeod and Bob Markham come into the FBI office in November 2006. Both tell my boss that our informants got Kimball took their daughters. After hearing from these two fathers, the FBI assigned special agent Johnny Groosign to look into Scott Kimball. We didn't know how bad the mess was going to be when I was brought in.

[Music] Groosign looks into Kimball's history as a career criminal. Fifth, bank fraud, bad checks, and while there is no history of violent crimes,

While he was imprisoned back in 2002, Kimball's soulmate is a guy named Steve Innis. Now, if that name sounds familiar, it's because Ennis was Jennifer Markham's boyfriend around the time she disappeared. [Music] Ennis tells Kimball that Jennifer is a stripper but that she desperately wants a way out.

And Kimball, he seems only too willing to lend a helping hand.

“Steve Innis is facing drug charges and there are key witnesses who will testify against him in his case.”

An opportunistic Kimball then sets a plan in motion to con Innis. Because he's soon to be released from prison, Kimball tells Ennis that he'll take care of the witnesses.

And not only that, he'll help set up his girlfriend Jennifer Markham in a legitimate business just as she always wanted.

Scott says, "Hey, listen, when I get out, I can set up Jennifer in this legit business. It's a coffee shop." But it's all a setup. Kimball turns around, goes to the FBI, and he throws Ennis under the bus. Kimball now tells the authorities that his soulmate Steve Innis has put out a hit on the outside,

and that he can help stop the murder plot. Not only does Scott Kimball claim the Steve Innis wants to kill witnesses. Kimball says Ennis is going to use his girlfriend, Jennifer Markham, to get the job done. This information lies up with FBI Special Agent Carl Schlaw, who had reason to believe that it was true. Kimball had information on prisoners or inmates,

per plotting to kill witnesses, federal witnesses. Carl believed that Scott was going to save lives, and he needed to be an informant when he was released. He had been an informant before for the FBI in Alaska prior to even coming here to Denver. So his previous work had planned out? At that time, yes.

There was reason to believe he was pretty good. His information was good.

“The FBI has a long history of using informants, but who better to catch a crook than a crook?”

As a boss once told me, there are no swans in the sewer. Scott Kimball gets out of federal prison in late December of 2002. Once he got out, he was under Carl's supervision. So that leaves you to watch over Scott Kimball. As much as you can, I mean, we don't live with the person, but we can say watch over.

It's not the only case we're working on, how about that? His job is to check in once in a while, give him some money, give him some recording equipment, and see what information he can get on his own. And it's not long before he's making contact with Jennifer Markham. So then you sanction a meeting, right?

Between Kimball and Jennifer Markham. Yes. What was the plan?

“The plan was to try to cooperate his information.”

He says that people in this drug conspiracy wanted to kill witnesses. So he offered to, as an informant to our wire, Kimball wears a wire in these meetings, but despite his promises to the FBI,

Jennifer never says anything about wanting to kill witnesses.

And there's nothing to charge in his with. And then February 17th, her phone goes dead. And that is the last anyone ever hears from Jennifer Markham. In the weeks after Jennifer's disappearance, Carl Schlaff is beginning to wonder what exactly happened to her. Did Scott Kimball say what happened to her?

Did Jennifer? He first told us that Jennifer was dead. Dead. Yes. Did you press him for details?

Oh yes. Kimball tells Schlaff he knows who killed Jennifer, but he doesn't give an exact location of where her body may be. She's last seen the live in Colorado Springs. Her car was found abandoned at Denver International Airport.

That's another jurisdiction. Kimball had said her body was dumped in rifle Colorado. So we didn't really have an agency that was going to take the lead on the case because it wasn't enough for them to investigate based upon those circumstances. Schlaff says the FBI kept working on it, but without a body, the Jennifer Markham case stalls.

When Scott was led out of prison, he basically had one year to prove his worth as an FBI informant.

He was basically running free for a year. But after a year since nothing was provided, Carl basically moved away from the case and a different case agent came. And the Jennifer thing was starting to basically die on the line.

Wasn't until we started really looking at his criminal history and piecing things together

“that we could see that each individual agency had no idea of what they were really dealing with.”

But in 2007, Gary Thatcher, Johnny Goose and Katarina Booth are starting to connect the dots.

We've got two women who've never been seen again.

Who both were last known to be with Scott Kimball. That is not a coincidence. It doesn't just end with Jennifer Markham and doesn't end with Casey. We find out from Lori that Scott Kimball's Uncle Terry was also missing. I was able to get a search warrant for Scott's laptop.

And what they find there is photograph of a young woman. There were two pictures of a girl. Once she had dark hair and once she had blonde hair. They are concerned giving Kimball's history she might have met the same face as Casey McCloud in Jennifer Markham. And at long last, Kimball will be questioned about those missing women face to face.

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You know, how did you blow? No. The devil wears products too. He's the movie event 20 years in the making. Obviously, can't put the secrets anymore.

So I think we just need to tell her. Will you please spit at her? Um, whatever.

Despite that, be the first to experience it only in theaters.

In light of the recent scandal, I'm here to restore your credibility. Oh, because we're a team now. That's a nice story. The devil wears products too. Where do you feed you their tea?

Maybe inappropriate for children under their tea. In theaters Friday. As Kimmel sits in jail, facing some 48 years on habitual offenses, special agent Johnny Groosing, and Detective Gary Thatcher, meet him, face to face.

You see this guy is a murderer, but right now, you just have missing people. You have missing Uncle Terry, missing Jennifer, missing Casey. Those aren't homicides until you prove them.

This was one of our first interviews with Scott.

Now that we've had time to put more pieces together. Gary and I sit down. I interview myself as the FBI, and then he tells me he wants a pizza. And then I said, "Well, we'll get one at a break." He goes, "No, I'll have one right now."

I'm like, "Well, I wonder who's in charge here." So we ordered him a pizza. I'm trying to help you. Well, the easiest way to help you are not. Scott was a ten on narcissistic behavior.

I knew that he would not talk with me if I did not appease that narcissistic side of him first. You don't take you guys this wide-eyed old disliked or totally wrong-wise old life. He didn't even prevent the truth into the end of the day for a few hours. He just doesn't happen. Talking with Scott, it wears you out.

I mean, he'll talk for hours and hours and hours. If you let him go, he'll go 10 hours. If we can get to the bottom of what happened in Jennifer and Casey, we're pretty convinced that you had something to do with their disappearances. You're the last one known to be both with both of them.

We better view it. I disagree. That's pretty much the case. And I know you can disagree. You can put it however you want to.

It was clear he was denying everything and he wasn't giving us anything. You're going to say what you're going to say. Because only you know the truth, Scott. Yes, I know the truth. And we don't know the truth.

“And that's what you've got going for you now.”

You have that knowledge. Gary Thatcher and Johnny Groosinger are getting nowhere with Kimball.

But they catch a break when they start showing around the photograph

“of the young woman from Kimball's computer.”

Another former sell-made of Kimball's. From way back in 2002, Steven Holly knows exactly who she is. And he uses his photograph and says, oh yeah, that's my ex girlfriend. That's a young woman named Lee Ann Emery. Lee Ann Emery is a young woman who like Jennifer Markham and Tracy McCloud

as a woman who's fallen on hard times. She ends up in this relationship with Steven Holly. Holly is in federal prison. And ends up being roommates with Scott Kimball. Steven Holly told Kimball that he was looking for a way to escape prison.

And he had a plan in mind that would involve his girlfriend on the outside. Lee Ann Emery to help him execute it. Again, it's just classic Scott, manipulate whoever he's with no matter where he's at. He tells Steven Holly, I'll help you break out. And Kimball offered to take care of his girlfriend when he got out.

“Another girlfriend of his sell-made that he's going to take care of.”

He was promising Steve Holly that he would break him out of prison and reunite him with Lee Ann in Mexico. Steven Holly tells Lee Ann she needs to connect with his soon-to-be-released fellow inmate. He tells her his name is Hannibal, and that she just needs to trust Hannibal.

Kimball's nickname in prison is rather ominous. They call him Hannibal, after Hannibal lector from sounds of the lamps. A sense has taken on his title to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice candy. Maybe a little bit of insight into his psyche about who he was as a person.

Seven days after Kimball's release from prison,

he made his first contact with Lee Ann Emery.

And of course, once Kimball gets released, he just double crossed Steve Holly. Scott reports to the FBI that Steve Holly's trying to escape, and he gives the details of the escape plan, but he takes himself out of it.

“Instead of helping him get out of prison, he scales on him to the authorities,”

gets Steven Holly thrown into solitary confinement, so that Steven can't communicate at all. But Lee Ann still believes Hannibal is there to help. Now, Lee Ann Emery is completely isolated, isolated even from her boyfriend in prison.

And that when Scott closes with circle around her and takes her on a trip. So Scott tells Lee Ann, "We've got to do these check frauds and thefts and stuff in order to get money for this big escape plot, where they're going to break out Steven Holly

and they're going to go to Mexico." Well, Lee Ann is on this journey with Scott Kimball. She writes some emails to her cousin, and she is so frightened that she's not willing to share a lot of information with her cousin.

She writes, "My orders come from Hannibal, and he's a dangerous person. If Hannibal knew I was talking to you, he'd have me killed in a second." So they do go on this little crime spree for a couple weeks

before then he takes her out to the book Cliffs of Utah.

And Lee Ann is never heard from again.

Now that authorities are aware that Lee Ann Emery is likely a victim of Scott Kimball. They can see that this has become quite a list of people. Casey McCloud, Jennifer Markham, Terry Kimball. Now Lee Ann Emery is added to that list.

We needed to figure out how to hold something over Scott's head. We had no leverage. And when all else fails, these investigators have to come to grips with the fact that they may only have one option left.

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“I remember sleepless nights that went on for months.”

And I remember seeing telling us don't live in the place if they keep this is going to be a happy ending. And probably isn't. Okay, what do I pray for now? I don't care if it was a fingernail.

That's what I kept praying for. I just wanted her home. We're trying to figure out how do we get something on Scott where we can convince him to cooperate with us. We had no leverage with Scott.

You can spend eight hours talking to Scott Kimble and you might come out with five seconds worth of really good information. And sure enough, doing one of these tenacious interrogations, Kimble blurt out something which intentionally or not,

gives the investigators the first glimmer of hope they've been waiting for.

Scott tells us what if one of these girls could be found on national foresight? Kimble seems to be asking if a missing girl's body has found on federal property.

“What that mean, he could serve out his time in a federal prison.”

Scott was trying to get time in federal prison. Because it's easier life for him than in state prison. When Scott said national foresight land, we already knew he went hunting on the day Casey disappeared. Johnny Grocing remembers that when he first conducted a search

of Scott Kimble's belongings, he recovered a receipt of a grocery store in Walden, Colorado, Walden is surrounded by national foresight. I figured she hadn't been recovered up there, but I went ahead and called the National Forest Service

and said, "I've got to receipt up in Walden. Do you have any missing people?" So I was just following up on a lead that was probably a one out of a thousand.

They finally put me through to someone who said,

"Yeah, they recovered a hiker right before winter in the middle of nowhere." And it was a female, but they didn't think it was a homicide. This hunter saw off in the distance, something glinting in the sun.

He didn't know what it was. He felt like he should at least go check it out. And when he did he found a skull lying on the ground. Based upon what Scott had said, based upon the receipt,

based upon the God forsaken place, this hiker was recovered. I had a really good notion it was Casey. Gary and I drove up the next morning to meet with the sheriff. I went and recovered all the skeletal remains,

sent them to our lab, tested them against Lori's DNA, and it came back as Casey. This is the turning point in our entire investigation. And now we had the body and we had Casey here.

And we were able to get her back to our family. They have to be eye calls. It says, "Hey, we need to have a meeting." You know, there's been some newer development. When I had given up, she'd been in town. Somebody picked her up, taking care of her.

And now she's come on. We took our whole evidence response team, up to that hillside, and we walked up and down until we recovered. Every piece, every bone of Casey that we could.

And Lori and Rob went with us. But there's something else. Lori had been here before. It's where Scott Kimbo had taken her on their honeymoon. And that was only weeks after he had left her body there.

He killed your daughter at the place you went on your honeymoon. Yes, with him. Yes, it was like a punch in the stomach. He wanted to check on the status of her remains, I'm sure. I thought we were just camping,

and that's in fact where Casey was. Lori would eventually have her marriage to Scott Kimbo on all. It's tough to prove a homicide when you don't have the body. And now we had the body and we had Casey here. This was the moment in the case where Johnny and I really, really knew

that now we had Scott. We're getting that momentum. We might be able to file a homicide case.

“And I think Scott knows those things are shifting.”

Defense comes to us and says, "Should we talk about a deal?"

He knew a homicide charge was coming.

“It was clear to him that he was not getting out of prison.”

We had Casey, but we didn't have Jennifer Lee and her Terry. And the deal would be, "Are these families willing to give up prison time that Scott might serve for him to tell us where their bodies are?" We had spoken with the families.

They wanted their girls home. We started negotiating terms of a deal with Scott. As a part of that, it would be to sit down with us and start figuring out how do we locate these other bodies. Scott Kimbo is going to lead us to the bodies and exchange

for some reduced charges from first-degree murder

down to second-degree murder. And for that, he would get 48 years in prison. He definitely wants to take the deal. Scott wanted to avoid any kind of a death penalty. We're finally going to sit down and Scott's going to tell us

where are we going, where are we going to be finding Jennifer and Terry and Lee and what kinds of things are we going to need? Scott started laying out. We needed to go to Utah. He was almost giddy or excited.

He's like, "You guys need helicopters. We need four wheelers."

“And I'll just never forget Scott just loving himself in that limelight.”

And then I remember looking at the jail deputies. I said, "We just made a deal with the devil." And then we get out to this area and it's vast and it's huge. He walks over and he taps his foot. This is Mary Christmas, dig here.

The boy did we all dig and we dug and dug and dug. Prosecutors have just made a deal with the devil. And that devil agrees to lead investigators to the remains of Lee and Uncle Terry and Jennifer.

Our plan was to collect both Lee and Jennifer in the first day.

He said this will be a piece of cake. I thought by the end of the day we were going to have Jennifer and Lee in. And like I'm just pumped with excitement. You've got nine big black SUVs headed out to the mountains. We had a big convoy of multiple FBI vehicles.

SWAT team evidence response team, the local sheriff's, his defense attorneys, Gary and Katarina and her crew. So we had 40 people out there. People are stopping and pausing thinking like the president's rolling through town. It was all about him and you could tell that he really enjoyed that.

They crossed from Colorado into Utah and enter a remote rugged area called The Book Groups. It's just this huge wall of kind of mountain foot hill E.S. and they go forever. And you just get a feeling like it's forsaken land. You don't see people or you don't hear wildlife, dirt and dust and heat. They go through washes and gullies at Kimball's direction to the burial site.

The Kimball says he left his victims. He kept pointing to different creeks and saying it could be this one could be this one. And our team kept digging and finding nothing. We would all meet every morning and Scott would then start taking us out into the wilderness.

And then that second or third trip he walks over and he taps his foot.

He says Merry Christmas, dig here. And boy did we all dig. Everything we want of us, including me, we're all digging on this one spot. We dug and dug and dug. No Jennifer, Markham.

And this wild goose chase plays out day after day, search after futile search. We ran those book cliffs up and down and we did not find them. On day seven, Kimball directs the team to a dry creek bed. And as we're walking down here, he points to the right and says there's a bone. And there was a bone, it didn't look human.

“But he said, "Okay, well, I think we're in the wrong place.”

Let's turn around and go the other way." It was really odd behavior. And so Johnny decided he was going to stay back and kind of search that area a little bit more. And so I started walking up here. And eventually I found a hair clip.

And it's got brown and blonde hair in it. So I said, "I'd finally end." And my voice is cracking a little bit. I remember going and picking some flowers and bringing them back and just laying them in that spot.

That day and the whole next day, we recovered Leanne.

“It was a very painstakingly slow process.”

Where her cranium should have been, there was a spent 40 caliber round. Which we traced back to Scott's handgun. After we did not find Jennifer, but we found Leanne, we said he's in violation of the plea agreement and we're going to trial. So Scott said, "I'll give you a map where Terry was."

Now Scott actually drew this map. He did. He drew the precise exit. He provides a key down here. Kimball told them that they would find a great tarp and a rope

between some trees and that that's where he left Terry's body. But this time, the detective searched without Scott Kim. We refused to take him when we went for Uncle Terry, given the manipulation and the nonsense that we went through out in the booklifts. We followed this logging road John, and we found the exact tree

“that he said Uncle Terry would be beside.”

We were able to find Terry Kimball wrapped up in a tarp. Scott had tied him up in a rope and just flung him over like a piece of trash. When the anthropologist put him back together again, they found that he had been shot in the back of the head. The search continues for at least one victim, Jennifer Markham.

I hope and I pray all the time that God will tell me something. So I can find her. Have an answer, something. Whatever it takes. Now since Kimball didn't lead authorities to all four victims,

his plea deal is renegotiated.

Two counts of second degree murder.

One of them for Leanne, Casey, and Jennifer. And the second count for Uncle Terry. Together, carrying a 70-year prison sentence.

“The sentence he has is probably longer than his natural life would be.”

So sometimes good enough is as good as you can get. Today, Kimball took responsibility for the murders of four people. But even so, there were still some surprises. Kimball entered the courtroom in a wheelchair. The courtroom in Boulder was filled with relatives of the victims.

I did go to the hearing and everyone told him how they felt about what he had done. I was present right there at the very first moment. She took her first breath. Scott Kimball was there to take her last. Hearing from all the families that he hurt.

That was hard. My daughter was a young woman with feelings and dreams. And a treat her like trash is despicable. Kimball remains unmoved throughout all of it. He is a monster with no conscience, and she's treated as such.

This man should never be free again.

You never had your day in court. No. Can you forgive him? No. He's unforadivable.

And he's exactly where he belongs. After Scott Kimball's sentencing, he sent to Sterling Correctional Facility in Sterling, Colorado. But you know what? That's not where Scott Kimball's story ends. Even behind bars, he's still plotting schemes.

I was supposed to come in with a helicopter in the beginning. I said it's a done deal. I'll be coming in. Hi. Scott Kimball's cons don't stop.

Even after he sentenced to seven decades in prison. Eight years later, he's plotting an elaborate helicopter prison escape from the Sterling Correctional Facility in Colorado. I was stuck in a cell with him and went from that to a very escape. So this guy is Jimmy Tanksley.

He was the one who had been hired by Scott to hijack the helicopter and fly it into the prison. I was supposed to come in with a helicopter in the beginning. But instead, Jimmy Tanksley begins working with the FBI. He tells Kimball their escape plan is rock solid. I said it's a done deal.

I'll be coming in. And the day of this great escape comes Scott out to the yard looking up, looking up, just waiting for that helicopter to come. I never show. And so now, the con man is the one who gets conned, at least this time.

He's never going to stop scheming.

But Scott will never stop, lessons learned the hard way for former Special Agent Carl Sloth, who's one time confidential informant committed unspeakable crimes. What Scott Kimball's such a good con man that he duped even the FBI. He duped me. The FBI has to make deals with criminals all the time. And law law enforcement does to catch other criminals.

But they're valuable. They're valuable. Sometimes they have evil intent and we get conned.

“Were you reprimanded by the FBI for your handling of this Scott Kimball?”

Yes. My files were gone through administratively. I found some things for lacking. What did they say was lacking? It was more in regards to paperwork.

It was never an admonishment that we shouldn't use them as an informant.

Some of the families of the victims hold you responsible. Should the responsibility fall on you? No. It falls on Kimball. I certainly understand it though.

We do. They've lost loved ones. And we didn't have the evidence to arrest on those four persons until Asian grew seeing and detective fetcher got involved and connected all the dots. We reached out to the FBI who declined comment on this case. But former Special Agent Grocing tells us they've made adjustments as to how they deal with informants.

The FBI's looked at it as how best practices and lessons learned from handling informants.

“How many other victims do you think are out there that Scott Kimball killed?”

If I were to give you a number today, I would say somewhere between 21 and upwards of 47.

We may never really know.

No. The cert continues for at least one other victim. Jennifer Markham. Scott was talking to me and he said you'll never find your daughter. And so far, he's done what he said.

I'm not letting this go. That is a fact. Hopefully, I can find her. And then there's Scott Kimball's son, Justin, who still suffers. Not just from his injuries, but also from knowing that he's the child of a serial killer.

How do you come to groups without? It was definitely really hard out first. Being just saying how loud my dad is a convicted serial killer. Justin, Cody and myself, we survived. We're more the lucky ones.

There are others out there that aren't. We're here. I'm really confident that I'll be able to do something with my life after this. Casey did serve her purpose on this planet. Her purpose was to catch him.

And by finding her remains, it all came together. So it wasn't the destiny I had hoped for for my daughter. But God has her and nobody can ever hurt her again. And we should point out tonight that Scott Kimball is currently in a Kentucky prison. And not eligible for parole until the year 254 when he's 87 years old.

That is our program for tonight. Thanks for watching. I've given your and from all of us here at 2020 in ABC News. Goodnight. You've been listening to the 2020 True Crime Vault.

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