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Didn't in high school. [MUSIC] She was a homecoming queen and he was, you know, one of the big studs in high school. He also was an Olympian.
>> Flout of the USA may be able to do it.
>> He is sitting in third position.
>> He wasn't just by big brother. He was like Superman. [MUSIC] They had a good relationship. >> I might.
>> They just decided they wanted to adopt. >> I might go. >> That was an exciting time. They had their child. It was like, wow.
“>> I think they were the perfect couple.”
Up until towards the end. [MUSIC] >> What's the one and two? >> One and two is scout matter. We believe from Dave Lab.
[MUSIC] >> And three, four. >> Three, four are blood. >> To even try to figure out what happened. It just kind of goes beyond your scope of understanding.
>> How did a pool of blood get over here if his body is here?
>> What theory would you like to hear first?
The prosecutions? Or what actually happened? >> I noticed you don't call this a crime scene. >> It's not a crime scene. It's where a woman saved her life.
[MUSIC] >> Who is J. Brown? >> She was a woman who was battered and abused for years. It looks upset that that is her plate.
“When you have to understand this man, it was a monster.”
>> Why did you shoot him? >> He was going to kill us. Michael, he was going to shoot Michael. He was going to kill me. I didn't think I was going to live that night.
>> When did you hear what her defense is going to be? >> When she hired Ron Bamiay, he started saying things in the media. >> I'll endlessly just bashing Dave. >> He beat her and she did what any mother would do to save her son. >> And he suggests they will find evidence of a troubled home life.
>> He had to understand a lot of people didn't want to confront Dave World. He was Olympic hero. >> I was afraid because he's Dave low. Nobody would believe what was really happening. >> She kept a secret for years from the people closest to her.
>> Do I believe that he hit her absolutely not? He loved her. >> Were you in love with Dave? >> Yes. >> Yeah, I really was.
“>> There are a lot of people who look at Jane and they see a make quiet woman.”
>> Don't let it for you. >> There's a different person living inside of her than what you see. >> Jane Lough going to test.
>> Of course, she'll be our first witness.
>> I'm confident I'm sure he's going to know that Jane was in fear of her life. That night and that shooting Dave was our only escape. >> I'm Aaron Moriarty. Tonight I'm 48 hours. >> Death of an Olympian.
[ Music ] >> It was shortly after midnight, August 28, 2009. And in Oxford, California, Jane Lough was frantically telling a 911 dispatcher that her husband Dave made just a big shot by an intruder. >> I want to work with him.
Give him a shot. >> Can we shoot? >> Can we shoot? >> Can we shoot? >> A young her brother Don and his wife Rebecca.
We're asleep in their home when they got the call. >> When the phone rings at early, you know it. >> Yes, I'm not right. >> This is detective Sonia Sanchez with Oxford Police Department. >> But we kind of laid their frozen.
>> Right. >> Let it go to voicemail. >> Jane Lough called her brother, Hank Lawbacher. [ Music ] >> This is an audio recording of first responders to the crime scene at night.
[ Music ] >> Officers found Dave Lough dead in the side yard. [ Music ] >> From a distance, I observed Dave's body. And he had two very close proximity gunshot wounds.
>> Lead detective Mike Young. >> One was to the back of his head. And there was a second very close proximity gunshot wound to the back of his right shoulder. >> I hit the floor and I was in tears.
My Superman was gone. >> Not long after the shooting, Jane was questioned by Oxnard homicide detectives about what she said happened. >> I told you I'm trying to remember everything.
>> Jane said that while their 10-year-old son Michael was asleep
in his bed, her husband heard a noise out back. [ Music ] >> Her husband Dave Lough had gone outside to investigate that she'd gone out briefly with him. He told her to go back in the house and that she had heard gunshots
and that Dave had not come back into the home. >> I was there. The man has kind of like stood there. They heard the shot. So I explained it to her.
>> That Jane said is when she called 911. >> It's just your husband about five?
Please, it's the one first.
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“>> How did you first hear that something had happened to your son?”
>> It's about five o'clock in the morning, the doorbell rang. >> Dave's mother, Doddy Loughed. >> It was Jane's brother, Hank, and Hank said. Jane and Michael are okay, but Dave's dead. >> Doddy was devastated, but relieved that Michael and Jane were safe.
Jane had been a beloved part of the Lough family for over 30 years. >> This is a memory of really a room, boy. Yeah, quite a few things. >> Back in 1980, Dave was a hometown hero who had set shop put records and was destined for Olympic fame.
His biggest supporter was the young woman who was about to become his wife. >> I mean, if you knew Dave and the kind of person he was, and the way he beamed when he talked about Jane and how he had her so high on this pedestal, I mean, he just, he loved her. >> She was a nice girl.
And I loved her all these years, I did. >> Jane Loughed spoke to me for her first TV interview. >> You remember your wedding day? Were you happy that day? >> I was, I was really happy.
>> I was very special. >> They had a good, strong friendship.
And something that I always thought, you know, I want to have a marriage like that.
>> But the marriage faced challenges. In 1984, Dave finally won an Olympic medal, but it was bronze. Everyone was proud, but Dave was determined to win the gold in the 88 games. And then while training, Dave tore tendons in both of his knees, and forever lost his chance at the gold.
>> He tried, but he couldn't come back. >> He then became a teacher that he liked teaching.
“>> And the one that was important was that one.”
>> Athletic director from high school. It was his dream job. >> Jane and Dave seemed to settle into their new life and tried to have a family. When Jane couldn't get pregnant, the couple adopted a baby boy from South Korea. >> I got it.
>> I got it. >> A name to a Michael. >> We had happy times. >> Time right before Michael arrived was good. >> That's right.
>> Up to Michael was probably five. Was the best time of our marriage. >> It just started going downhill and it got worse and worse every year. >> But no one seemed to know how bad.
“>> Back at the loud hall, detective young made a stunning discovery that would change everything.”
>> You found the weapon didn't you? >> Where? >> Inside the grandfather clock, it was in the living room of the house. I walked over to the grandfather clock open the door and looked inside and there was a gun on the underneath the weights. >> Dave had been shot with his own 22 calipers single action revolver.
The kind of gun you see in cowboy movies. >> It's a single action revolver. >> Heavy and an effort to use gun expert. Not built guitar showed me that the hammer must be caught for every shot. >> Now bring that hammer back and fire.
>> Six shots were fired at Dave Lout that night and according to authorities all six hit their target. >> And the gun shots of people heard where they boom boom boom boom.
>> They were separated as I recall by about a second shot.
So boom boom boom boom boom boom. >> Just hours after being interviewed by police before she even knew they found the gun.
Jane changed her story.
Now she said it was self defense and hired attorney Ron Bammier. >> They don't dispute that she wanted him dead that night. Yeah, I was going to be him or her. Jane says it was when her husband also threatened to kill their 10 year olds on Michael that she felt she had no choice.
“>> I think if it didn't happen we would both be dead.”
>> But even then it would be nearly six months before Jane Lout was arrested.
And then she would be released on bond for six years until her trial finally began.
Why? Why to take so long? >> Because knowing that who is only half the story. We wanted to try and figure out if there was a legitimate why. >> So why do you think she killed her son? >> My personal feeling is that she was afraid Dave was going to take Michael.
Next Jane tells us her side of the story. [MUSIC PLAYING] >> The checkout with the name "Best in Conversion." >> The legendary checkout from Shopify. >> Or just the shop on their website.
“>> Until the social media and everything else.”
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>> Jane Lout says she never planned to kill her husband.
>> I thought it for sure. [MUSIC PLAYING] >> It was only a way to stop them. You don't get how he wouldn't stop coming after me. >> She was used to abuse, she says.
But that night, she says Dave went further than he ever had. >> Normally he'd get mad and it would taper off sometimes. But he never stopped all night, he just kept raging. >> Jane claims she first noticed Dave's temper when they were dating. And Dave was going for the gold.
>> They were signals I didn't really pay attention to before. >> Just his anger, his, you know, something didn't go right. If he could find something, if he's throwing away the shot, and it doesn't go as far as he wants, he's just losing his temper.
>> The first time Dave hit her Jane says was also shortly after they were married.
Dave was going out of town to an Olympic training session. And it was Jane's job to pack his bags. >> He was leaving for a trip and I forgot to buy something. It was like bathroom supplies and he hit me. And like a black eye in my lip was blown.
He told me anybody else told him something or did it. >> And that says Jane is exactly what she told everyone. >> I told him somebody found me. >> I'm going to put a person mug me. But Jane admits that physical violence was not the norm.
Instead, she describes a pattern of mostly emotional and psychological abuse.
“>> How often would there be incidents and what would they involve?”
>> It was mostly verbal abuse. >> What would he call you? >> Well, stupid idiot, fat bitch. >> Jew. >> How often would that happen?
>> The last two years, it was all the time. >> Jane also says that Dave would taunt her and their young son Michael with his vast gun collection. Claiming that he even made her play Russian roulette. >> I kept trying to make me hold the gun and I wouldn't do it. >> The older Michael got says Jane, the more unreasonable Dave became.
>> There's so many times I should have called the police and I didn't. And I so regret that, especially the times when Michael wasn't involved.
>> I can't believe I let him stay in danger like that.
>> What did you say?
“>> I always thought it would get better.”
>> Yet she says she was still unprepared for what happened on the night of August 27, 2009.
>> When Jane and Michael returned home late from a day of the beach, she says Dave exploded. >> I didn't ask Dave. >> Anything about his day, I didn't. >> It just started it that we didn't ask him we didn't respect him. >> Jane put their 10 year old to sleep early and did what she had been doing for two years.
>> Crawled into bed with her son. >> Why were you sleeping in Michael's room? >> Because you're scared. >> Michael is scared. >> Dave would stay up in a living room and he'd been drinking all night.
>> And he's just raging at whatever.
“>> Something in email that would happen every night.”
>> Almost every night. >> Jane says she was in Michael's room when she heard Dave raging in the hallway and got up to try and calm him. >> She started just swearing at me and. >> I kept telling him I was sorry and he started to come down towards Michael's room and. >> And I saw the girl in his hand.
>> She said she focused on diverting Dave away from Michael and drawing him out of the house. >> So I went to the side of the house and we stumbled. >> I don't know if we were falling or just like moving, but I felt when we got caught. >> And then we did fall and I was like straddling him and.
>> I honestly don't remember.
>> After that. >> Five more shots were fired. >> I've got up you had to realize he was dead. >> I didn't think he was. >> Honestly, I mean I saw him.
I remember seeing his socks. >> I just thought for sure he's going to jump up and realen after me.
“>> But if you were terrified, why didn't you ride away until the 911 operator?”
Oh my god. He tried to kill me and he's going to come back in. >> I can't explain why. >> This trick attorney's office offered Jane a deal. >> PLEED to manslaughter and agreed to a six year prison term.
>> But Jane did the unimaginable. >> She turned it down. >> I felt if I took the plea. >> Nobody would know what really happened. It would be like accepting what the prosecution said happened that night.
>> It would be like accepting that they said it was no abuse. It was Michael and me. >> She's full of bloney. >> She's lied so many times all her. As I look back and think back so many lies.
>> The loud family now says the woman they embraced as part of the family is a pathological liar and cold blood of killer Rebecca, you once said to me that there are two faces of Jane. What do you mean by that? >> Jane likes to portray herself as very meek and quiet and shy. >> I'm trying to help her.
>> I'm trying to help her. >> And then there's another part of her that's after the world and everything. I'm going to do what I want to do. >> I don't care who I heard in some cases kill. [MUSIC]
>> I'm going to put this cookie right here and see which kind of thing game animal comes and eats the cookie. >> Was Dave Lout, a hometown hero, a beloved coach and high school athletic director, secretly abusing his wife at home. >> Oxnard homicide detective Mike Young was determined to find out. >> We spent five or six months doing dozens and dozens of dozens of interviews with friends and
family seeing if anyone was aware of any domestic violence issues. >> The correct neighbor right next door, who is a XLA county deputy. I'm specifically asked if there was any domestic issues and he said absolutely not I would have seen that. >> To Jane ever tell you that that Dave hit her.
>> Never.
>> Dave's brother Dawn and his wife Rebecca in interviews were
“adamant they never witnessed or heard about any abuse.”
>> Pushed never was verbally abusive.
Never did you ever see her with any kind of bruises. >> Never never never. >> Never. >> Even Jane on the night of the shooting denied any abuse in her marriage. >> I asked you about your relationship.
Is it abusive? >> Yeah. >> Physically. Mentally. >> What's more Jane didn't look like someone who had been in a battle for her life.
There were no fresh scratches on Dave or Jane. >> She had two small, maybe nickel size or so older bruises on the inside of her left by
“a set that were greenish and yellowish as if they were in late stages of healing.”
Young says that evidence collected from the scene tells a different story. He says Jane followed Dave out into the side yard holding this flashlight in one hand and this gun in the other and she took a shot from behind.
>> The first shot was fired from a distance striking him on the left part of his hand above
his left ear and then the next two shots we believe or contact wounds this side of his face. And then there's another gun shot wound while he's down on the ground is at least four to six feet away. And then you've got two more at one of the back of his right shoulder and the six shot that we believe was the gun shot wound in the back of the head which is the fatal gun shot. >> And because the gun was a single action revolver young says every shot shows
premeditation. >> She had to physically manually cock that fire arm each time she shot him. >> Police say after she shot Dave she hit the gun in the grandfather clock and then called 911 with that story about the prowler. >> According to the loud family unbelievable stories were nothing new for Jane.
>> She told me one time that a man died in her arms at the bank. She told me another time that she was held up at knife point at the grocery store was that true. I don't think so but it was Jane so you kind of just say okay. >> But Jane now says all those stories were to cover for Dave's abuse. Is it possible she did make up these stories about a stalker and an attack to cover up injuries that
her husband gave her. >> Well I guess it's possible you know I don't know I find it convenient. >> Another secret that police uncover. It turns out Jane and Dave were deeply in debt. Rebecca Lout, Blaine's Jane. >> She was the one in charge of the finances and I don't think Dave knew that she hadn't paid her taxes
in three or four years. I don't believe he knew that they were behind on their mortgage. It may not have known that Jane had borrowed nearly $60,000 from his own mother, Doddy. >> She would say I need X amount of dollars for Dr. Bill. I need X amount of dollars.
I have to pay some tuition and I just just gave it to her. >> A large sum of money also went missing from the parent teacher association at Michael's school. Where Jane was a treasure. She told Doddy that she needed $25,000.
Otherwise the bank was going to basically four clothes on the home.
And it turns out that she took that $25,000 check deposit in the bank, cashed out $20,000 the next day and deposited into the parent club account. >> Jane again says she was covering for Dave, who had thrown the money into the fireplace in a fit of anger. >> But you had to borrow $20,000.
She didn't burn all that. >> No, there was some I use because the house payments were two months, three months behind. So I paid for that. But where was all the money going? >> I don't know.
I paid for household bills. I paid for groceries and I paid for tuition. I know Dave ordered a lot of stuff. I know what we're talking about. Thousands of dollars.
I don't know. >> We hired a forensic accountant who went through everything.
“And I think that their conclusion was that she was just a reckless spender.”
>> Rebecca and Don say they are just as puzzled. >> We have since found out that Dave's wages were being garnished. >> Right. >> Because apparently there was issues with the IRS. Maybe he found out that day that his wages were being garnished and he went home and asked.
I honestly think that he was fixing the leave.
I truly believe that he was done with the whole financial thing.
“>> Rebecca and Don both say that terrible shooting and Jane's story of abuse came completely out of the blue.”
She told me a lot about the relationship. Very personal things about the relationship. So I know that if that was happening, she would have said something to me. >> But as we have learned since this interview, Rebecca might know more about Jane and Dave's marriage than she told us.
In a phone call with Detective Young, just five days after Dave's death in 2009. Rebecca admitted Jane had confided in her. >> She was very verbally abusive. >> And she may not have been the only one who knew about the verbal abuse. >> We're not the first person that said that, but whatever she's confided in,
you were told is very, very important. >> Could there have been signs of physical abuse?
>> Yeah, she never made mention of him physically being violent towards her.
>> I think she never said anything. >> No, she would get very quiet. >> Rebecca insists that Jane never mentioned any physical abuse and says that with all she's learned, she now believes that Jane lied about it all.
“>> Do you think that Dave's mother or your sister-in-law knew this was going on?”
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>> As the date for Jane Loutes murder trial approached, Dave's family feared what they'd have to hear. In her defense, Jane Lout would be testifying that her husband, the Olympian hero, was also a sadistic abuser.
“>> Rebecca, what if the jury believes her?”
>> I mean, it's going to be a horrible day, but -- >> What do you do? >> On January 11, 2016, more than six years after Jane Loutes shot her husband, the trial finally began. Cameras were only permitted for opening and closing statements.
>> Come on in there. >> Ventura County, senior deputy district attorney, Rami Manui, began to lay out the state's case against Jane Loutes. >> On August 27, 2009, this defendant took this Ruger-New Model single six revolver. She followed her husband of 29 years to the side yard,
and she shot him with this gun. >> This shooting was premeditated, Manui said, because Jane had reasons to want her husband dead. Approximately $300,000 worth of insurance benefits, and the fear of a contentious divorce.
>> Several weeks before the murder, Dave Lout was researching divorce on his laptop. >> He was looking up divorce lawyers. >> And there was some way back to the divorce lawyer research. >> There's research done on the computer looking up divorce attorneys. >> I didn't know that there was on his laptop, I guess.
>> Did he threaten to leave you?
>> No, never talked about it.
>> But the computer evidence was only one part of the state's case. Investigators insist Jane was never in danger the night of the shooting, and that she lied to police from the start. Manui even showed the jury that grandfather clock where Jane had the gun. After she killed her husband.
>> He said there was no sign of a struggle out in the back. >> And he signed that there had been any kind of fight inside the house. >> Nothing. >> What about on Jane? >> She had nothing visible on her face.
During the interview, Detective Moore actually noted that she had a small nick on one of her hands. He asked her how she got in that. And she attributed it to her cat.
>> The defense has never denied that Jane shot Dave that night.
But attorney Ron Bamiay has always said she had no choice.
>> There's no sophisticated plan here. If you really wanted to kill the guy, you don't do it in your house with your kid 20 feet away.
“>> What evidence is there that he was the aggressor that night?”
>> The bruising on Jane. >> Bamiay showed the jury these photos taken the morning after the shooting have a large bruise on Jane's left arm. An injury she said she sustained while struggling with Dave over the gun. According to the detective, the saw her naked.
The only bruises on her inner arm where these two old green bruises. >> But it's possible a bruise can develop with time. >> Sure can, but I don't believe it. This knocked down drag out fight for your life. No injuries on your face.
No injuries on your breasts. >> Having turned down five plea deals. Jane had only one option now. If she wanted the jury to understand why she did what she did that night. She had to tell them herself.
>> How difficult was it to testify a trial? >> It was awful, but it felt kind of good. It felt almost a relief that it would be over. >> She sobbed through most of her testimony. >> Marjorie Hernandez, a reporter for the Ventura County star and a consultant for 48 hours,
says all lies in the courtroom were on Jane. This was her opportunity to pelgers. This is what I was going through behind closed doors for 29 years in this marriage. >> It took two days as BAMIA walked Jane through a harrowing tale of abuse and even sexual assault at the hands of her husband.
>> The case sexually physically and verbally abused her for years. The things to wear that is awful, just awful. Which explains, says Jane, why she felt she had to kill her husband on that August night. >> He pushed me up against the door jam. And it was just like, you know, in my face telling me how much he sick of us.
And then he was going to blow my nose. >> When the prosecutor finally stood up to question Jane, the first thing he wanted to know was why Jane didn't ever call out for help. Did anyone hear anyone screaming, yelling? >> Nothing.
“>> The only thing that was heard were gunshots by several of the neighbors.”
>> You can understand people wonder why you didn't scream for help if he's trying to kill you. >> I never scream. >> Remain Manui, press Jane on why she can't recall the actual shooting. >> You don't remember anything is it just a blank? >> Yeah, it is.
I mean, I don't remember the first shot. >> Do you remember pulling the trigger on the first shot? >> I just remember feeling it. >> But I mean, it takes more than that. You have to pull the trigger and pull the hammer back.
I mean, it takes a real effort to shoot that gun. >> I don't remember that. I mean, I block it out. >> To bolster Jane's defense, Bami-A called witnesses who also testified that Dave had a dark side and said that looking back, they missed telltale signs.
>> They saw signs of his temper. They saw signs of him being very aggressive. They saw signs of him yelling at Jane. They saw that. And what people would be disgusted by, but nobody's anything.
>> But the prosecution have witnesses too.
Friends and family who never saw signs of violence.
And describe Dave's loud as a loving family man and true hometown hero. >> He was not the monster that they tried to portray him to be. He was a good guy. He cared about other people. >> Jane and Dave's son Michael, now 17, testified on his mother's behalf.
His father had a bad temper, yelled a lot, and called him named sometimes he said. But when asked by the prosecutor if his father was ever violent with him or Jane, Michael said he couldn't recall.
“>> I think that there was absolutely no domestic violence in that house.”
I don't know. I can't say for 100% I've been living that house. I'm very certain that the level of abuse, if it did exist, was nowhere near to the degree that she testified too.
>> One person who did not testify was Dave's sister-in-law, Rebecca Lout, so jurors never
heard the call between her and detective young. >> Very, very verbally abusive. >> Because Rebecca now believes Jane was lying, the defense never called her to testify. >> She once told me towards the end, she was complaining about Dave and she said,
"You know, sometimes I think that we'd be better off without him.
>> The final witness, called by Bamiye, is the executive director of Los Angeles County's Domestic Abuse Center, Gail Pankas.
“>> She thinks like a battered woman, she acted like a battered woman.”
>> Pankas says that all of Jane seemingly odd behavior. >> Like lying to everyone, including the police, is actually a classic symptom of battered woman syndrome. >> There's all of these things going through her head at the same time. None of which are logical and none of which make sense unless you understand the degree
of fear and the degree of trauma. >> After two months, the case was about to go to the jury. Jane loud took one final gamble. >> We're all in. >> Murder one wasn't the jury's only option.
They could also choose to convict Jane of a lesser charge of manslaughter. >> Or if they thought it was justifiable homicide, they could set her free. Jane insisted that Bamiye tell the jury it's all or nothing.
>> But so defense, it's not voluntary manslaughter, they don't think for one second I don't know what I'm saying.
It's not a crazy risk at all. You either believe it 100% or you don't. >> Why there's such a big gamble. It's just me, it's just because the truth. >> It's been a long, long, horrible haul.
>> Over six years have passed since Olympian Dave Love was shot and killed. By someone his family once loved Jane loud. >> It's heartbreaking for me, it's heartbreaking because I love both of them. I mean obviously I loved him because he was my brother, but I loved her too. She was like a sister to me.
>> But as they wait for a verdict, their love has turned to anger. She's a murderer and she's a desperate woman trying to get herself off. We would like to see her put away for life because she took a life.
“>> And now what matters most is what 12 strangers think of Jane.”
The jury can't convict her of murder. >> The lesser crime of voluntary manslaughter, or if they can decide Jane killed in self defense and acquitt her of any crime. >> You're verdict on each count. >> As the jury deliberates, Ron Bammier remains optimistic.
>> I'm very confident jury's not going to convict her first or secondary murder.
I could predict these things. I haven't been wrong yet on one of my cases in terms of what jury's going to do. >> So it's going to come down to either voluntary manslaughter or acquittal. >> Right. We either walk out of the courtroom together or we don't.
>> For Jane, the waiting is unbearable. >> It was awful. It was trying to be positive. But scary to death. >> Right, let's bring in the jury please.
>> At stake is more time with their son. >> I had to tell Michael that if I'm found guilty, that I'm remanded right away. I won't come. >> After nearly four days of deliberating, a decision.
>> We the jury and the both entitled action find that
a defendant Jane Walbacher allowed guilty of the crime of first degree murder.
>> guilty of first degree murder. I was pretty shocked.
“Honestly, I tried to prepare myself for everything.”
But I was surprised. >> And in a poignant twist, it is BAMIA once so confident the jury would believe as client who needs to be consoled. >> It just was like somebody's punched in the gut.
>> Jane ended up consoling you. >> Yeah, she did. Let's Jane out. >> Dave's mother, Doddy, was in the courtroom. >> I was afraid that she was going to get acquitted.
And then when she wasn't, it shocked me. I cried. I don't know if I cried because she was found guilty or because it was over. The verdict is no victory.
>> Jane's been part of your life for over 30 years.
>> That's right.
“>> That's why I lost a son, lost a daughter,”
and I guess I lost a grandson too.
I don't know if I'll ever get to see him again. >> Michael has been living with Jane's relatives, since she was arrested and released on bond. >> Do you miss him? >> Terrible.
Yeah. I know he's okay. I mean, I know he's safe.
“>> But Jane, who turned down that last plea deal”
of serving a maximum of six years in prison.
>> May never be free to be with her son again,
because she is facing a mandatory sentence of 50 years to life. >> For Jane Lout, who's in her life 50s. This is truly a life sentence. >> She will die in prison. >> Yes.
>> Maybe they can find something I did wrong. I should've done better.
That could be grounds for a new trial.
But the odds are, you know,
“what 2% of cases like this are overturned on appeal.”
Do you have any regrets? >> Well, of course. I mean, I regret that it happened. I, you know, killed my husband. But Michael's a lot.
>> My God. >> I don't think if it didn't happen, we would both be dead. [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
>> But what I want to say today, you don't want to get a lot of studies. The master by Tag Laptop is supposed to be a soft hand. It's like a master. >> You can say that.
>> You know, you can tell the story. >> Yes, you can tell the story. But you can't say that. >> But you can't say that. >> Exactly.
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