The Killing of Theresa Fusco

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“Knowing Kelly, there is no way I believe she ran away.”

No. And then on November 10, 1984, just five months later, trees of fusco disappears. Yes. And what is the initial thought? The initial thought is there might be a connection.

Theresa worked at a roller rink on Merrick Rotten, then broke hot skates. And for her to go to hot skates, she would have to walk in this direction down the street. Did you ever worry about her walking? No.

I never really worried about her walking anywhere in the neighborhood.

That evening, she apparently got fired. She's upset, and then she leaves.

“Wasn't she supposed to go to Lisa Kaplan's house?”

Yeah, her best friend, yeah. She was going to come to my house after she got off her work and sleep over. So it becomes like nine o'clock. She's not there. Yep, nine thirty, not there.

Ten o'clock, I just thought maybe she went home. Well, the next morning, her mother called, and her mom asked my mom, "Can you please have Lisa sent a resa home?" And my mom said, "Well, Theresa's not here. Her mom called the police department.

We went to all the places we would hang out. And she wasn't anywhere that we searched." It's just very coincidental. Same neighborhood, same time frame, two girls who knew each other. And I'm like, something's that right.

Something's just not right. And then 25 days later, there's two boys coming back to hang out here in the woods. They see a body, and they run to the Delhi and ask the call 911. Police show up and they find Theresa Fuskel. Theresa had been strangled, beaten and raped.

It truly was shattering at sixteen to never have lost anybody that you loved.

It's such a horrific way. You just can't get over that. But until there's a connection in the two cases, one still a missing girl, and now one's a homicide. John Cougar was brought in by the detectives as a suspect in the murder of Theresa Fuskel. And during that time, he confessed to the murder of Theresa.

And then, during that confession, he implicated two of his bodies.

“And when I saw the three men who were arrested in handcuffs, I thought to myself, who are these people?”

They're older. Who are they? The theory was always, it was three guys. And the DNA didn't match any of them. If they didn't do it, then who did it? Today, we ran 63-year-old Richard Bilodo for the murder of Theresa Fuskel.

And I said, "Okay, here we go again." Aaron Moriarty reports the killing of Theresa Fuskel. First, 15-year-old Kelly Moriarty vanished into the night.

On June 12, 1984, she left her home after dinner, and never came back.

Five months later, it was her friend Theresa Fuskel. On November 10, 1984, the 16-year-old left her job at hot skates, a popular roller rink, never to be heard from again.

Police had to look for real footprints, not digital ones, and it was easy to finish without a trace.

“Kelly Moriarty and Theresa Fuskel were growing up in the suburbs of Long Island.”

They keep a pack now, lived around the corner from Kelly in Massapiqua. She actually was the first person I ever smoked at cigarette with was Kelly. I was from a divorced family, she was from a divorced family, we connected that way.

She was like my sister I never had.

When they were in junior high, Kelly's family moved about 10 miles away to Lindbrock. By then, Kelly had made some new friends. One of the first people that she met when she moved to Lindbrock was Theresa Fuskel. Kelly's mother, Iris, and her then-the-on-site, Paul Oamstead, watched the friendship develop. She was very good friends with Theresa, and so she made friends very easily.

She met her friends at malls and in person, kids roaming around freely. No one could keep tabs on each other 24/7. It was a different time, and Kelly Morrissey and Theresa Fuskel were typical teens for 1984. Let's take them on a little stroll down memory lane. That was the year Ronald Reagan was president.

“Ghostbusters and foot loose were the breakout hits.”

Madonna was climbing the charts and fashion followed.

It was the year Steve Jobs introduced something revolutionary.

Hello, I am Megan. We didn't have cell phone, social media, so we were penthouse. We would get our station every, and we would just write back and forth. And that's how we communicated. When Vicki was visiting Kelly, she would sometimes hang out with Theresa,

who also became her penthouse. Postmark 1982, from Lindbrook, New York, from Theresa Fuskel. And it says, "Dear Vicki, hi, what's up? Nothing much here. When are you going to visit Kelly again?

When you do call me okay? How's all the boys there? They cue?" In Lindbrook, by far the best place to meet boys, was at Hot Skates as advertised here in 1984.

What are you doing today? Ah, we would go to Hot Skates Rollerink. We would go there, roll a skate around.

“How important was Hot Skates in your life?”

Hot Skates was a big deal to everybody that lived in the area, even outside of the area. We would just go there and hang out with our friends and listen to music. Lisa Kaplan, now Johnson, was Theresa Fuskel's closest friend.

We always would try to dress very similar.

We would buy the same clothing. We would wear our makeup the same. Did you guys confide in each other? About everything. Literally everything.

Literally everything. No one gave safety a second thought. You could walk absolutely anywhere and not be afraid of anything in the dark during the day alone with friends. And that explained why it was business as usual

at the Morrissey House a couple miles away. When 15-year-old Kelly walked out the front door alone after dinner. She said she'd be back by 930. It was June 12, 1984. Iris didn't give it a second thought.

She and Paul were raising eight children together. Somebody came in and I heard somebody in the kitchen and yelled down on home. Okay. And you could hear doors opening and closing kids coming in now. And I took it.

It was Kelly. It wasn't until the next morning when she didn't come down and go to school. That I went down there and realized that her bed wasn't made. And the cold was still there. And she hadn't come in.

And were you panicking at that point, Iris? Oh, yeah. And then we called the police, but they told us that she wasn't missing 24 hours. At that point, they really wouldn't take a report. And those days they waited. NASA County Detective, Freddie Goldman,

would review both Theresa and Kelly's cases some 25 years later. He's retired now, but he agreed to walk us through the timeline and the evidence from back then. At the time of Kelly's disappearance, he says police found no reason

It seemed like she was a runaway. As tons of missing persons cases on a daily basis.

“Is that how Kelly Morris's case was initially handled?”

Of course, yeah. 15 years old, she wouldn't know how to do life unless somebody was there to help her. I don't foresee her ever just running away and not talking to anyone. Not reaching out to anyone. So I knew it was serious from day one.

Months went by with no sign of Kelly. That had to be so tough. Oh, it was. I mean, everywhere I went. Every child from the back looked like Kelly had stopped to look to see if it was Kelly.

It was horrible. If Kelly had been written off as a runaway and not a priority five months later, her case got a second look, it was November 10th.

Theresa Fasco never showed up at Lisa's house for their sleepover.

I thought maybe she went to somebody else's house. And so I called a few friends and said, you know, to Theresa come over. At that point, I still wasn't overly concerned. Theresa's parents were divorced. The next morning her father Thomas had a scheduled visit.

And arrived at his ex's house to pick up his daughter. I'll send it to you realize that this was a problem. I know my wife and I looked at each other and said something's not right here. We realized this is out of norm. What do we do now?

When did you become really concerned? I became really concerned when she wasn't ready for school on Monday morning.

“We walked to school every morning. Why wasn't she there?”

Monday came and went. It would be almost a month before anyone knew what had happened to Theresa. This is my daughter Theresa. She was my precious little girl. For Theresa Fasco's father Thomas and her brother John.

We were happy. It seemed as though the entire town of Limbrook was out looking for her. How big was this search? Everyone and then some. Everybody everywhere.

Nearly a month later, not far from hot skates. And near the Long Island Railroad tracks. Theresa's body was discovered. Beaten, raped and strangled. Barry dunder a pile of leaves and wooden shipping pallets.

Thomas and John are still haunted by where she was found. I dumped over a twice. Yeah. I didn't know she was under the pallet. We just walked over to pallet.

And I'm glad I didn't find her. That would have killed me.

I never heard the word homicide.

“So in two homicide detectives arrived at Lisa's house.”

She didn't yet understand what that meant. And they said what we think we found her. My heart started to race. I started to get excited thinking, "My God, thank God, they found her." And then they told me that they found a body.

At 16, it was life-shattering. When Hobbody was found, it was a shock not just to the limber community, but I think to all of NASA County. And, Donnelly would grow up to be the NASA County District Attorney. But before that, she had a childhood,

a lot like Theresa Fuskos. Well, you stuck thing out of it on skates. When I was a kid, I was in college when it happened. It changed the way we saw the world. Back in the 80s.

It changed all that. And not for the better. These are news articles I collected throughout the years. On this case. 41 years later, Thickey Pappagno keeps a sad scrapbook.

It tells the story of losing her two friends. Theresa and Kelly. This one, which includes both them,

Limber girl missing second from the village.

Kelly had been missing for nearly six months when Theresa was found. It's just too coincidental to me. I feel like whoever committed Theresa could have something to do with Kelly. You have two girls who went missing, and then one who was murdered. Yeah.

I was afraid to be home alone at my time. It was frightening, because we had no answers.

No footprints, no fingerprints. No murder weapon.

“Hair samples were taken from Theresa, also a sexual assault swab.”

But DNA testing had not advanced enough to find out who it belonged to. While looking for links between the two girls, they zeroed in on John Cougat, a 21 year old landscaper who told detectives he had dated Kelly for about a week. I've heard the name John Cougat before.

It was early right when she first started liking him or dating him.

Cougat was asked about Kelly's disappearance. He also was asked about Theresa's killing, and denied any knowledge of it. Cougat agreed to come in and take a polygraph test. Four days later, he did, and police told him he failed it.

Cougat was interrogated through the night and into the next morning. After nearly 12 hours of questioning, his denials changed. Nassau County detective Joseph Volby wrote down what he said Cougat told him.

“That on the night, Theresa went missing, Cougat was with John Rostivo”

and Dennis Holstead in John's van, when they saw Theresa walking away from hot skates. Dennis Holstead was known to investigators back then

says Freddie Goldman. He had had some minor brushes with police.

Dennis Holstead had an apartment adjacent to the show gas station where Kelly was last seen at that paper. We were told that Kelly hung out in that apartment frequently. She had the key to his apartment. It sounds like Dennis Holstead was viewed kind of as a bad influence

on the younger kids in the area. It would seem, yeah. John Rostivo was more of a clean slate. He was a working fellow. Although he was friends with them, he didn't have a background like them.

He didn't hang out in Dennis's apartment or that we knew of. Police took Cougat to the district attorney's office, where he was videotaped.

I want to talk to you about the death of Theresa Fuskel.

He was interviewed by Assistant District Attorney George Peck. He agreed to go in video. Camera rolling. Cougat detailed what happened to Theresa once she got into the van that night. Cougat told investigators that Theresa was right twice

by Dennis Holstead and John Rostivo. When she said she was going to tell somebody, they couldn't let that happen. We decided that we had Cougat and Dennis told us that she had died. And what did the John Green of this bill?

John didn't say no. And then John Cougat describes how he killed Theresa. And then what happened after all you got to Rome? I got to go on in that place. And then I think it looked like this.

And then her body went down. John Cougat would later recant everything he told police. But on that day, Goldman says investigators were confident they had Theresa Fuskel's killer in custody and had the evidence they needed to prove it. But later on that very same day,

another teenage girl went missing. March 26, 1985. When 19-year-old Jackie Martirella didn't show up to start her shift at Burger King. Her older brother Martin knew something was off.

She's very prompt. She's very dependable.

“And for her to not show up, can we know there was something wrong?”

Most nights Jackie walked to work from the family home in Oceanside, a town a few miles away from Lembrook. How would she get there? She's walking. What was the route she would take to go to Burger King? Pretty much straight down won't be true.

Did you have a worry about her walking? I really know. No. Jackie had recently graduated from high school. She was working part-time and taking accounting classes, saving money to buy a car.

How would you describe your sister? Describe her, she was very girly. Complete with posters of teen pop stars on her bedroom wall. I remember Leef Garrett, whoever he was.

There were posters of that. She was in circumstance.

“She liked doing that. She liked the clothes.”

Very finicky with the clothes. And now she was missing. So what did you and your father do? Well, I think we call the police. And then they took notes.

And then they started looking. And then those other two came up. And they were, you know, saying, "Look what's happening here." So everybody became interested. Nearly a month went by with no sign of Jackie.

You know, all the worst thoughts go through your mind. When something like that happens. And of course, you know, what happened happened. The worst of the worst. They found her body 26 days later.

And it wouldn't be a golf course. April 22nd, 1985.

“A man looking for golf balls in the high grass off the 17th hole.”

Found a naked body. It was Jackie. She was murdered, obviously, and discarded. According to former Nassau County detective, Freddy Goldman, Jackie was left the same way to reason Fusco had been raped and strangled.

Initially, did investigators say, "Oh my God, these cases all have to be connected." Yes, I know. But with Cogurt sitting there, it kind of, you know, threw a monkey wrench and everything.

John Cogurt, the man who had confessed to killing trees of Fusco, was in police custody. How could he be the killer if we had him in custody the same day that she went missing? So, obviously, it wasn't him.

Yeah, could it be a whole state or a steal? But no. Jackie's homicide was not going to be easy to solve. Her body was so badly decomposed. No DNA swab could be taken.

I'm sure it heightened the alertness and awareness of the community because now you know that there's somebody out there that's, you know, going after young girls. Kelly Morrissey was still missing. Police news she had hung out at Dennis Hall's dead department.

But there was nothing more to die. Hall's dead or Cogurt to her disappearance. Was there any evidence that indicated that they were involved in in Kelly's disappearance? No, no.

Teresa Fusco's killing was the only case police could pin down by June 1985. John Cogurt, John Rostivo and Dennis Hall's dead, had all been charged with a rape and murder and all three pleaded not guilty.

Cogurt went on trial first.

Later Hall's dead and Rostivo were tried together.

“I remember sitting in the witness box testifying”

and the district attorney saying, "Please speak louder. Lisa Johnson was just 18 and a star witness." And here I am, you know, sitting there very meek and timid in a room full of strangers, testifying about my friend who was killed.

It was difficult. It's still as difficult. John Cogurt offered an alibi and according to a New Yorker magazine investigation, the vampire he said was used in Teresa's abduction

was actually out of commission and up on Cinderblocks the day Teresa went missing. But two hairs belonging to Teresa that police say they recovered from the floor of Rostivo's van

were too powerful to ignore

and Cogurt's detailed confession trumped everything. I got to go in there. By February of 1987, Cogurt Hall's dead and Rostivo had been convicted

of the rape and murder of Teresa Fasco and sentenced to more than 30 years to life. It had by then been too long years for Teresa's dad. He in the rest of her family tried to move on. We thought, believe in me that there was time for closure.

We had gone to parents and murder children. We had support and they were looking for support and we were looking for support and concert. But there was no closure. What prosecutors had insisted was an airtight case

against a three man was going to blow up spectacularly. In 2003, nearly 19 years after Teresa was killed,

It told a different story.

“John Cogurt, John Rostivo and Dennis Hall's sets convictions”

were all overturned. Just six hours ago, after 17 years in prison, the murder rape convictions of three long island men were overturned following stunning new DNA evidence. A new testing not only ruled out Cogurt,

Hall's dead in Rostivo, it pointed to someone else entirely, another unknown male. Everything Teresa Fusco's family and friends thought they knew about her killing and her killer.

What's changing? Wait a second. There was investigations.

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and Dennis Hall's Deb were out of prison and in the arms of their families. I waited for this for 18 years and I'm just... I'm sorry, I'm just really... I just can't believe it's happening.

But their legal problems were not over. Nassau County District Attorney Dennis Dillon had decided to retry all three for the murder of Teresa Fusco, starting with John Cougat, who again pleaded not guilty. There was still his videotape confession

and that became the centerpiece of the case against Cougat

at his second trial in September 2005.

We decided that we had a cool... The confession, the prosecution argued,

“was more important than all other evidence, even the new DNA.”

When I saw the video, I go, "Whoa, it looks like it's legit." But Cougat's defense attorney, Paul Castelliano, says, "The video is misleading. As damaging as Cougat's statement sound, he says it's what you don't see on camera that matters."

Part of it is, you know, it's staged. There is a detective sitting off camera watching it and monitoring it and making sure it goes right. It's like a play. Here, Cougat struggles with names.

Even his alleged accomplices name. John Steve will damage Cougat. And then ask for help. Well, are you talking to the detective about these as also the real?

That kind of shows it was Cougat. Cougat was an easy target, Castelliano, says he had a 10th grade education and a substance abuse problem. The Castelliano says, "Please took advantage of."

Tells him about his drinking, his drugs, all the stuff that they can use against him. And then Castelliano says they lied to him. The police told John Cougat that he failed a polygraph. No, John Cougat passed this polygraph test with flying colors.

And even though Cougat had already told police over and over that he had nothing to do with Teresa Vasco's killing. Castelliano says they convinced him he did. They told him he'd blacked out. He didn't remember.

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“But the confession wasn't the only thing prosecutors would have to defend. They had to”

contend with the new DNA evidence pointing to an unknown male. So prosecutors suggested that

Rostivo. Then all of a sudden she had a consensual sexual encounter. That's what they said.

“But investigators were never able to identify anyone who had been sexually involved with Teresa.”

And Teresa's best friend, Lisa, had to take the stand again at this trial to talk about it. And I mean, this is a tough question to ask, and I want to ask it properly. But as far as you know, was Teresa even sexually active? Absolutely not. And we spoke about that. And that's not something that she was going to do before she was married. Lisa once their star witness was this time around undercutting their case. They went against their own witnesses. And in fact, we argued that

she went from being a virgin to being someone who had a quicky in a skating rink where she worked.

It was it was preposterous. It was demeaning. Did that make you mad? It did because it's not something she would have done ever. And I will go to my grave saying that Teresa was not having

“sucks with anybody. Prosecutors did still have the physical evidence from the first trial.”

The two hairs belonging to Teresa that police said they found on the floor of John Rostivo's van. But that too, Castle Yero argued, was tainted. There was a science to analyzing. Whether the hairs came from someone dead or alive. They displayed a certain decomposition that is only present when the hairs are attached to the head of a person who is deceased. That meant the hairs could not have been left in the van, while Teresa was still alive according

to Castle Yero. We believe that they can went in and truck them from the medical examiners office and said they could found them in the van. In other words, they were planted. But in closing, prosecutors denied the hairs were planted. After Castle Yero was able to raise serious questions about the prosecution's case, Cogates' fate was in the hands of one person, a single judge, not a jury. Cogate had decided to take his chance with a bench trial.

And after nearly three months of testimony, the judge reached a verdict. This is Judge Orts' decision. The court will not accept the confession and accordingly

finds the defendant not guilty of murder in the second degree under count one.

And what does that mean when the judge won't accept the confession? He means that the confession is false. It is not credible.

“And that's what the judge found. He did not believe the confession.”

Eight days later, the prosecution formally dismissed the charges against Rostivo and Holstead. And John Cogate was acquitted. I was devastated. Only because I've seen that confession of his over and over again. And I believe then that he was telling the truth. It makes you feel like you've got to hit in a face with a frigging shovel. And you don't know how to pronounce back from that.

It was December of 2005. Theresa Fusco had been dead for more than 20 years. And now nothing about her case could be laid to rest. It's for me as the father, Harnit, Harnit to go through it over again. I felt as if the life had been sucked out of me. Everything that we fought for, everything that we testified for, everything that was investigated and all of the proof and all of the evidence meant

nothing. If they didn't do it, then who did it? Good morning. I'd like to thank my investigators and my prosecutors handling this case for standing here with me today. On October 15, 2025 and Donnelly, now the Nassau County District Attorney had a startling announcement. And after two decades of this case running cold, we have indicted Theresa's killer. The FBI using the new science of genetic genealogy had found a match

to the unknown DNA. Today we reigned 63-year-old Richard Bilodo of Santa Mariches for the murder of Theresa Fusco. Nearly 41 years later, and thanks to genetic genealogy, Nassau County D.A. and Donnelly,

violently stolen from Harnit more than 40 years ago, but the past is never forgotten.

“Once the unidentified DNA sample was matched to 63-year-old Richard Bilodo,”

surveillance began. A few months later, prosecutors say a straw in a discarded smoothie cup confirmed he was their man. Bilodo has denied their charges. At the time of his arrest, he was working at Walmart stalking shelves. At the time of Theresa's killing, he was 23 and living close by. He was living with his grandparents. It's about one mile away from hot skates. It's about one mile away from the Fusco residence. He was a man who had seemingly

always lived below the radar. Prosecutor Jared Rosenblatt, had he ever been married? No.

Does he have family or close friends? Here's a brother that he's close to. I can't speak about how close they are. And does he have hobbies? Does this guy do anything other than go to work? He did gammles on sports a lot. In interviews, we conducted with Theresa's friends and family. No one recognized this defendant as someone who was ever associated with Theresa in 1984. Authorities wouldn't speculate about how Richard Bilodo may have come in contact with Theresa

Fusco. But D.A. Ann Donnelly says she knows he did. When you have a DNA match, 100% match, we got the guy. William Kappart and Daniel Russo, Billidus defense attorneys, see it differently. What evidence are you aware of that connects? Richard Bilodo to the murder of Theresa Fusco. Good DNA. And they don't find it convincing. It's being overstated and overvalued. And what's more? This district attorney's office, this police department, in 1985, stood before a

court and said these three men did this. And they had an ample amount of evidence to prove it. Was that a concern that they're going to point to the fact that three men went on trial were

“convicted for this crime? Yes, I would assume that's what they're going to say. But the difference”

now is we have science behind us, which they didn't have 40 years ago. And to me, you don't beat the scientific evidence. But at John Cougat's retrial in 2005, the NASA County DA's office had argued the opposite that the unidentified DNA taken from Theresa was meaningless. The same DA's office stood up and said, we still believe based on all of this evidence that these men are responsible for Miss Fusco's death. So I don't know how now in 2025, because you were able to put a name

to that DNA, suddenly none of that matters anymore. All of their lives against John Cougat, John Restevo and Dennis Wallstead are going to come back and haunt them during this retrial. Paul Caceliero, John Cougat's former defense attorney, fears that Billidoo's lawyers will put the blame on the three men who were cleared of the murder two decades ago. They're going to have a trial in which I'm sure the defense is going to be arguing the guilty. And Caceliero says,

that's just more salt in the wound for John Cougat, Dennis Hallstead, and John Restevo.

What's never ending, what Nassau County did to them, is just has no ending to it.

All three men sued Nassau County to live them were awarded damages. 18 million dollars each to Restevo and Co-Defendant Dennis Hallstead both exonerated a decade ago for the 1984 murder and rape of Lindbroke teenager Theresa Fusco. But in Cougat's case, a jury found no wrongdoing by Nassau County police and gave him nothing. Let me ask you though, if in fact, Bristure Billidoo is convicted,

believe the one of you apologized to the three guys who were convicted. No, because I don't owe them in a biology. I wasn't even in the office at the time. I was a lawyer. I was a lawyer at the office, yeah, but for the Nassau County G.A's office. Mr. Dylan did what he thought was right when he dismissed against two of them.

“And I think, you know, they got their apology at that point.”

The idea that the district attorney in Nassau County can apologize to these three guys for

While the Nassau County authorities say once again, they have the killer of Theresa Fusco.

“Bristure Billidoo is not facing charges in either Kelli Morses or Jackie Martorella's cases.”

Both remain unsolved, leaving two families in Limbo.

I mean, you're anticipating something and there is never shows up. She didn't have a bad

bone in her body. She missed out on just living a simple life, you know.

“You know, I look at women in their 50s now and think that could be tells me that's how old she would be.”

When Richard Billidoo goes on trial for the murder of Theresa Fusco, her father Thomas, and her once best friend Lisa will be back in the courtroom for what they hope will be the last time.

“Closures to be is that if this is the individual, then justice will be done.”

It's just completely over. 41 years is over. Beginning and end.

You hope, do you think that it might finally be resolved this time around? Or do you still have

questions? I trust in the DNA this time. I am so hopeful that there will be a conviction

and we can finally put this to rest 41 years afterwards. It's a long time. It's a lifetime.

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