Cowards in Congress, with Rep. Thomas Massie, the TRUTH About Talarico, and Deep State Secrets, with Roger Stone

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This is in interview that we taped literally after he left the house floor from debate on a war powers bill with regard to Iran. We get him to respond to some of the president's criticism that has been leveled that representative Massey and here from him. What it was like on the floor of the house, why he's doing what he's doing.

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actually listens to women. All right, it's like I said, oh, sorry, would jump to the gut a little bit, but like I said, Congressman Thomas Massey joined us for an interview shortly after leaving the house floor during a debate about the war powers bill that he introduced with Congressman Democratic Congressman, Roh Kanna of California.

This is a very close vote in the House of Representatives, a vote in the Senate failed. That failed right while we were talking, actually. While I was talking to Thomas Massey, the war power vote failed in the Senate. Now if it had cleared both chambers, I talked to him about this in the interview.

almost certainly would have vetoed it. He has said he has no intention of seeking a war power bill from Congress or seeking congressional approval for the war in Iran.

“There are of course two different layers to this, right?”

The war power question, whether or not this was a constitutional use of executive authority.

You know, we're always land on this.

Unfortunately, this is the expansive executive power that we have right now. You can cook up an OLC office of legal counsel opinion to basically justify any use of a military force as has happened in recent years, many, many times. Now, is it out of step with the spirit of the Constitution and the spirit of article 1 powers?

Is the way our war powers have expanded over time out of step with that? Yeah. So I talked to the Congressman about that if there are structural powers, structural changes needed to be made to the war powers resolution. But most importantly, we got really the Congressman fresh off.

Like he walked straight from the House floor to his office to talk to us about what this debate was like as the attacks on Iran continue this conflict continues right now. Literally, I'm looking at what's happening as we're sitting here in the Middle East. It's raging. So without further ado, here is Congressman Thomas Massey on our show right now, live

for you on this Wednesday evening. It is Congress that must decide war. If American lives are to be risked and American blood is to be shed, that decision must be debated and voted on by the representatives of the American people, and that debate is meant to be arduous.

And that vote is meant to be hard. I have a theory.

“I think my colleagues don't want to go on record because we have a terrible track record”

of meddling in the Middle East. They don't want their name associated with this when it doesn't turn out well. But Congress cannot be bothered with its constitutional duty because for many in this chamber it's easier to simply allow someone else's sons and daughters to be sent to combat without their vote.

Well, that was Congressman Thomas Massey of the great state of Kentucky on the floor of the House of Representatives, where because he, along with Democratic Representative Rowe Kanna, introduced a war powers resolution in regard to this conflict in Iran. There was a debate on the floor of the House of Representatives this evening, so this afternoon, really.

Congressman Massey, you just came off the floor. Thank you so much for joining us. Hey, thanks for having me on. Yeah, absolutely. I want to get your sense of what the mood was like in the chamber.

Such a consequential debate, such a consequential conflict. You know, it does obviously feels sort of doomed to failure. I hate saying that Senate is voting right now, seems like it's going to fail in the Senate. But inside the chamber itself, what was the mood? What was it like, Congressman?

Well, this is the culmination of an effort that Rowe Kanna and I undertook this summer.

We actually wrote this bill when the first attack on our ran incidentally.

They said we destroyed their capacity to make a nuclear weapon and some people are offering that now as the reason for this recent attack. But in any case, we didn't offer this warpower's resolution in the summer because it was over with, almost as quickly as it started. But in this case, it looks like we're in for, you know, we've even been told by the Secretary

of Defense this could go four, six, eight weeks. And so if they're telling you six or eight weeks, that could become six or eight months, and that could become years. We've seen that happen before in these wars in the Middle East. So we thought it was timely to bring this bill up.

We were able to force a vote and a debate on it. I really don't think it's doomed to fail. I saw today, my colleague Warren Davidson, Republican, joining me. And the margin is so slam here, if every Democrat were to vote for this and Warren Davidson

“and I vote for it, it could pass, I think.”

So it's going to come down to attendance, and it's also going to come down to some of the Democrats, whether they're going to go along with the majority of Democrats and vote for this warpower's resolution. But it was a very somber tone in there. This is not one of those debates where you crack jokes or make light of things because

we've already lost six soldiers in this war, and we've already spent billions of dollars and people know this is a serious matter. And, you know, the president would have to obviously overcome the Senate and the House would have to overcome a presidential veto right and all likelihood if you manage to pass both chambers, not like in great in the Senate.

So it is ultimately probably not going to convince the president, right?

Yeah, that's the case. It's been slamming you as you know, I don't need to remind you of that. It's been, you know, you told real clear politics that you were, you know, you're just doing your thing. Conversely.

Well, I'll have to go find that every time he attacks me, we raise about $50,000 on line. So we, you know, checking my watch, we need an attack here pretty soon. And I, you know, I am half-heartedly saying that, you know, tongue-in-cheek, I would prefer he not attack me. It makes my reelection harder, but I'm going to do the right thing here in Congress

regardless. Right, procedurally, if this were to succeed in the House and the Senate, the president could veto it and go on his way, constitutionally, the way this should happen, is one of my colleagues should come to the floor and offer a declaration of war. Now, I might undertake that myself hoping that it wouldn't pass just to do it the constitutional

way, because in that case, it requires a positive vote and it's not overriding a veto. We've got that backwards since 1973 and the war powers resolution, which itself is probably constitutionally flawed.

But at least here's what we did.

“We had a debate today and, you know, I ask, what's the reason?”

Why are we going to war? And I did a list at some members who are for this war on the Republican side to come up and give some of the reasons. And so, at least we got that out of it and at least we're going to get a record on the vote and, as you saw in that snippet, I have a theory that my colleagues don't want

to go on the record on this. We dragged them kicking and screaming into this debate and into this vote which will happen tomorrow. They don't want to go on the record because we really have a very poor track record in the Middle East.

We can't really point to Syria or Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya and say that there's a modern day Thomas Jefferson rose to the occasion after we toppled a regime and you're not going to have that here in Iran either.

Look, it's at theocracy and the president himself said that, you know, his second

third choice got blew up in the attack that was so successful. Well, I'm going to presume what he meant was he blew up the second and third in line to the eye atollah and that he was happy to have another eye atollah. As long as he could get one, he could deal with. So this also is not about enabling, you know, the advocates for freedom in Iran who don't

want to live under a radical theocracy who would prefer to live under a republic like hours.

“Do you get the sense from any of your democratic colleagues who are lining up behind this?”

I saw Hakeem Jeffrey is saying, well, Libya was different because Nancy Pelosi was getting some heat for saying, oh, it's Obama can do what he was doing in Libya back at the time. And Hakeem Jeffrey's was like, that's different. That's different. Do you get the sense that some Democrats are very glad that you and Congressman Khan are

picking this fight so that they probably wouldn't be so happy if you introduced a declaration of war congressman. They might actually vote for it. I know that it might put them in a tough spot. Look, I don't like to question the motives of my colleagues, but there are some Democrats

who frankly would probably prefer this war if they had their president in the White House and there are some Democrats who don't want to have to take this vote. And there are some Democrats while I'm imputing their motives who are just doing this to get in Trump's way. And I want to, you know, okay, now I'll take a pause and I won't return to imputing their

motives. Maybe those were their motives. But I want to let you know, when we had the war in Libya or the attack in Libya, I wasn't

in Congress at the time, but I was here for the 2013 vote on Syria, which never happened.

Obama said that he would come to Congress and get authorization if we were going to have a full-blown war in Syria. And what happened is there was no support among the American people and when they tried to get a positive vote to authorize a war in Syria, they pulled the vote because it wasn't going to succeed.

Now he undertook some, you know, behind the scenes, covert activities that weren't even known to Americans for quite a while. But I'd be in the same, whether it's Syria. I wasn't here for the vote in Afghanistan and Iraq, but let me remind you, they did vote and they, in a positive way.

It wasn't one of these war powers resolutions. It was in a U.M.F. and somebody came to the floor and said, we should do this and enough

“people agreed and agreed in the Senate and that's how that happened.”

And so I just, you know, we do have some fair weather patriots and fair weather constitutionalists. I don't care how you get to the foot of the cross as long as you get there.

Well said.

“Now Mike Johnson, speaker of the House, of course, has claimed this vote is dangerous that”

your resolution would be dangerous and it's a frightening prospect because his argument is

that the Commander-in-Chief, President of the United States needs to have this authority. So I guess my question that is what should presidential war power look like in this high tech age, just not 1973, and distance is less meaningful. Do we need to change the war powers resolution to fit the spirit of the Constitution and article one to begin with, Congressman?

Well, let me unpack some of that. So Mike Johnson's arguments today sound like his arguments against the Epstein Falls Transparency, yeah, that, you know, he said it would be-- In 702. Don't forget 702.

Right. 702.

“You name it, but the coincidence here is that I teamed up with Rokan on the Epstein Falls”

Transparency Act as well.

I would love to see Mike Johnson make those arguments about presidential power if it weren't our party in power, you know, it's just not going to happen. He would find a reason on that day to say that we need to follow the Constitution. As far as the war powers resolution of 1973, it is fundamentally flawed because there's a Supreme Court decision that happened since then that calls into question whether you can stop a war

without the president's signature. So there are two--the war powers resolution says that you can either introduce a concurrent resolution between the House and the Senate or a joint resolution between the House and the Senate. One of the needs of President Signature, the other one does not.

When they passed the 1973 war powers resolution, they envisioned that it could be a resolution of the type that I have introduced that only passes the House and the Senate and then the president has to abide to it. It's not presented to him.

“If there was a Supreme Court case in 1983, INS versus Chata, you have to present everything”

to the president for it to be legally binding. It's a change to the structure of the war powers resolution. If we were to succeed using the path that I have taken, it would set up a very important constitutional question that may have to go to the courts whether the president would be able to veto it or whether he would have to be able to sign it or not even.

Before I let you run congressmen, I looked up the quote that I was thinking of from real clear politics, Trump told them this was the other night. Thomas Massey is now losing his election by 35 points. I wouldn't rely too much on him or any of them were having a big victory. And we are taking the nuclear weapon concept away from Iran.

Your response, congressman? Well, I'm doing better in the polls than he said last time. He said I was at 9% the last time he treated. Obviously, I'm not at 9% if I'm losing by 35, but I'm not losing by 35.

In spite of having $5 million spent against me, by the Republican Jewish coalition, and

then another $1 million funneled by APAC to my opponent's coffers, I'm still on top. I have the grassroots support in Kentucky and it's ironic, it's not even ironic, it should just be apparent to everybody now, that these donors, the Republican Jewish coalition and APAC, they don't really represent Jewish people, they represent the military industrial complex and sort of a banking and rich billionaires and they are opposed to me for two reasons.

It's not because I voted against a big, beautiful bill, it's because I pushed the Epstein Files Transparency Act through and threatened a lot of their friends, exposed a lot of their friends. I mean, these guys are even in the files themselves and that's not an implication of guilt. I'm just saying they travel among these people and the Epstein files, the Epstein classes

Rokana calls them and I'd like to call it that as well. But they're also very much for war in the Middle East and I say that APAC isn't really even an Israeli lobby, it's a military industrial complex lobby and the only people who are winning right now in this war with Iran, look, it's ignited the region, it hasn't brought stability, it's brought instability.

You've got what were nations that sort of get along with each other, they're like, what the hell bro, you just blew up my refinery, things are burning, ships are burning, people who were in commerce or no longer in commerce and the only people that are benefiting from any of this are folks like Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and the people making those drones

Thomas Massey of the Great City Kentucky, one of the good ones, thank you so much for

taking the time on a very busy day, sir. Thank you very much for having me on and for covering this very important topic. About the hell bro, you just blew up my refinery, this Thomas Massey's impression of the Gulf States and our interview today, great to talk to Thomas Massey, I have a policy

“with, you know, as every journalist should, with politicians that year, you have to always”

be skeptical of people in positions of power, I've interviewed Thomas Massey going back almost 10 years at this point and you could probably tell from that interview, I am pretty impressed with Massey's consistency across the board. He's obviously very polarizing a controversial to many people in mega world right now who believe he's subjugating the party's interests to his pet causes, maybe some people would

say to his own interests, but again, having, I think the first time I interviewed him

was probably 2017, so having covered him for a while, this is, these are all his sincerely held beliefs and we are wildly out of step with the Framers Intention for War Powers, I don't care who is president of the United States and it's also become much much easier to want to war and that's, I was glad to talk to him a little bit about that because it is true that it's different now than it was in 1973 than it was in the, in 1789,

than it was in 1812 because obviously technology has shrunk the globe and made borders less and less, or made distance, I should say less and less salient in this concept because you can fly drones, you can launch missiles, nuclear technology and the like. So, interesting, interesting conversation with Congressman Massey, so glad to have him on the program.

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because it pitted too fascinating experiments on the left against each other, different than what you're seeing in just about any other race, and it's not just relevant to the left. Now that looks like Jim Solrico is the nominee for the general election and he will be going up against either Kim Paxon or Drunk Cornyn.

This is really a conversation about labels in general, so I'm going to focus on Jasmine Croquette, and then I'm going to focus on Jim Solrico, but just a little bit here at the top about what ended up happening in the race. So a political analysis, last night, actually found that Tala Rico was the recipient of more case rate money than Jasmine Croquette.

This was interesting to me because Jasmine Croquette was running as a stylistic populist. If you saw Jasmine Croquette on television, you might have thought that's the populist in this race because she was running on this aggression towards Donald Trump. And I should say this anti-norm post-Trump style, which is interesting. Democrats want someone who they feel can go toe to toe with Trump in the TikTok era.

It's definitely a medium Jasmine Croquette used just more than other members or maybe it's a more viral success than other members for better or worse, and they thought, well, hmm, interesting. I mean, Kamala Harris got behind Jasmine Croquette in the closing days of this race. There was some hope that Jasmine Croquette who ended up losing by a pretty healthy margin.

Let me pull up the final results, obviously votes have been getting Talaid all day, but right now, as of this very moment, we have most of the votes counted, so 98% of the votes counted, and Talaid goes at 52.5% croquette is at 46.2%.

try and boost Jasmine Croquette, but she was, I mean, just openly campaigning as an influencer.

“Basically, I think that's probably a good way to explain the way Jasmine Croquette was campaigning.”

Now, policy wise, you could describe her as like a Kamala Harris Democrat, she's a pretty normal establishment-friendly Democrat, Derek said you've a corporate Democrat, which is interesting because she got less case-rate cash than Talaid go did at the end of the day. She's been friendly to crypto and the like, and Talaid goes really tried to walk away from some of that stuff in his own past, he took money from Marion Adelson for casino-related

issues. I'm going to talk about Calarico's faith in just one moment, but that tells you a little bit. So Croquette is running as the stylistic populist, but a substantive anti-populist style in substance.

There's an overlap, there's the middle of the venn diagram, but you know, style is substance, but don't get me wrong, but in terms of her ideological persuasion, Jasmine Croquette was not running as like a Bernie aligned person. Really, dip salarico has gone tried to swear pretty fully into the Bernie lane, and it's about to test a very interesting theory that I share with a lot of my friends on the lap,

which is you have a better chance if you look at the Ronald Reagan model. Ronald Reagan talked about bold colors, not pale pastels. This was in the speech he gave because I wanted to really see packs.

Run on bold colors, not pale pastels, and the meaning of that, it's basically Reagan

who was seen as the symptom of a deeply sick television-based epistemology by Neil Postman, who was Billy and Marshall McLuhan and thought in the television era, Reagan was a symptom of hour-lowering standards when it comes to political life, that the print-based epistemology lent itself to much more substance and thoughtfulness. So, in that sense, Ronald Reagan as an actor had signified to Postman in the mid-1980s

that we were just all about style now, but Reagan himself understood that on television, people were looking for someone they believed in, and that's where the political advice of bold colors, not pale pastels, is really smart. You want people to believe that you believe what you're saying. Some people are masters of that by the way, and they don't believe what they're saying,

but if voters believe that you believe what you're saying, you're better off than trying to bullshit your way into some story about, "Well, maybe I walked this back, or maybe I changed this." You're just a level of voters say, "I have a different position than many of you on this, and here's why I do," or instead of trying to walk away from a position, just saying,

"I'm making the argument for it, affirmatively, here's my argument for it."

“And this is where a lot of people on the left, that's where I think Trump does very well”

in the 2016 Republican primary, despite the fact that some of his views were unpopular with Republican voters at the time, so I'm going to continue to be unpopular with Republican voters. People fundamentally trusted him, many people, fundamentally trusted him more than they trusted the others. Doesn't mean they would trust him babysitting or whatever, but it means that they trust that

he believes what he says more than the other candidates. So my friends on the left, my popular friends on the left, have always believed that if people swear fully into the Bernie Sanders lane, they'll be better off, because if you're able to say, "I have this consistent coherent worldview, and it's democratic socialism."

It's basically left-wing populism, here's what I believe in.

It puts you in a position where you don't have to keep hedging, and you don't have to suck up to dumb leadership and the like. So this is kind of going to test to that theory. And I guess Telerico, Telerico's victory over Croquet, kind of test that theory, but in him, you have this stylistic populist, someone who swore really into the Bernie lane,

“but was, I'm sorry, the substance of populist, but who stylistically was like Biden, right?”

Because we just need to bring back norms and decency and civility and respect. So you pitted, usually that's packaged with, usually that kind of Bidenism is packaged with Croquet's politics. And usually Croquet's style is packaged with Telerico's politics, and so this was a very fascinating clash of all of these things meeting at the same time.

And Telerico pretty comfortably came out ahead with a monster turnout, by the way, monster

So there's a lot happening here.

“Speaking of Croquet's stylistic populism, watch this clip of her.”

I mean, this puts it all together, like exactly what we're explaining here. This puts it all together perfectly. This is the woman that Kamala Harris endorsed her president of the United States. Last night, as the results were coming in, showing she pretty clearly lost Telerico. Pretty definitively, there wasn't a lot of debate about this, S5.

We encourage each and every one of you to remain resilient. We cannot allow this type of behavior to be rewarded because so long as they know that they can win, even if it means cheating, then they will continue to do it. So I am asking you, I am begging you to make sure that you go ahead and figure out where it is that you are supposed to vote, stand in line, wait in line.

During her speech last night, which was not a concession speech, she went out and addressed voters and said the same thing. She said, hey, listen, this looks like cheating in Dallas County. She says something to the extent of Republicans are going to do, what Republicans are going to do, of course, is a democratic primary, but that was Croquet's line.

And within like 12 hours, we can put F10 up on the screen. She conceded. She said this morning, I called James and congratulated him on becoming the Senate nominee. Texas is prime to turn blue and we must remain united because this is bigger than anyone person.

This is about the future of all 30 million Texans in getting America back in track of the

primary behind us Democrats was rally around our nominee and win. I'm committed to doing my part and we'll continue working to like Democrats and down the ballot. So consultant language they're pretty obviously, but this one went literally from being in the election was stolen territory to, oh, I'm behind James in like 12 hours.

That is incredibly cynical behavior and I don't want to let that pass at all.

“Whoever is playing with people's trust in elections, I think we're going to see more and more”

of it. I think since, I mean, honestly, you could probably go back to 2000 and then to 2016 when Hillary Clinton herself was flirting with some really dangerous language, then obviously, of course, to 2020, I still think Ben Sass put it best at the time when he said that Trump and others, Rudy Giuliani said the power, I don't know if he named them, but I would include

them in this had been quote, playing with fire by how they talked about the election in 2020. Jasmine Crocket was doing all of that on election night talking about how it looked like there was cheating and then flipped on a dime. So it's good that she flipped on a dime because there is no evidence of widespread cheating in the Texas Democratic Senate primary and there wasn't when she said it.

Is she so self-involved to believe? Whatever, maybe somebody told her and she trusted whoever told her, but she's a Congresswoman, she's the candidate. It's a reckless thing to say without having significant evidence. So this isn't even to score a partisan, this is even from partisan score suddenly, I should

“say this is a bleak sign of the future, I think, that we're starting to see politicians”

play so casually with people's trust in literally like a primary, we're not even talking about a presidential election, but a Democratic Senate primary. So let's roll this compilation put together by Western Lensman, of Jasmine Crocket's changing vibe, like her accent changing throughout her political career, it's interesting and it gives you a glimpse again into the cynical political career of Jasmine Crocket.

Because these people, they are crazy because they always talk about how Christian they

use. Yeah, I don't know how many of them on this side, I get in divorce because they get in caught up sleeping with they co-workers, staffers, interns, all the things. On campus mailboxes, and at that time my school hired the Coctrine firm, and there was a lawyer who graduated from University of Houston who was assigned to me, "You're not!

You're not! We're done picking cut!" We are! That was about immigration, by the way. That was about the final plantation.

But at the end of the day, I am who I am, and I am authentic. But that we're done picking caught in line was about immigration. And she was saying, "We want Hispanics to pick cotton now." Just a gift to the Republican Party, of course, but also very, very cynical, and there's

wrote about.

And we're so, we are co-reaning down the slippery slope technologically, and it changes

our politics in ways that we haven't been well-equipped to handle.

“I think Brett Weinstein and Heather Heing would call it hyper-novelty.”

I think that's a great word for it, actually, is that when technology changes the environment around us so quickly that as human beings we can't adapt. But also, you see that just downstream of evolutionary biology and politics. Humans are having a hard time adapting. Human politics are having a hard time adapting to the TikTok-based epistemology, which really

is more the social media, the algorithmic social media-based epistemology, which prizes extremism in one direction or the other. And maybe Taloreco's win is something of a review of that, or maybe it's just a sign that we're kind of in the middle. It's weird because I'm not in the cult of the movie Idiocracy, as so many other people

are. But it is generally true that movie was like deeply pressure, and it has some incredibly funny moments, too.

“But the Idiocracy element of it is of the social media-based epistemology, is just your”

rewarded if you say things that are extreme in one direction or the other. So I condemn this or I love this. And that's how you go viral.

And so the more powerful virality is, the more extreme you're going to see candidates

being. I think Crocod was a good example of that. But it seems like Taloreco has the confidence that people are more confident that the Taloreco would have a chance against Paxton or Coran, whoever runs up winning the Senate primary and for Texas Democrats who have been burned a couple of times.

They've gotten pretty close. But they've also had a lot, their hopes are pretty high. They want someone who they think is in a position to win statewide, and Crocod is pretty obviously not the best choice for that. So let's move on then to James Taloreco, can James Taloreco win statewide?

He's now, of course, a state representative down in Texas and already Taloreco's old social media posts clips that have been ping-ponging around really ever since he went on Joe Rogan.

“You may remember Rogan said something to the effect of like you should remember President”

Rogan was very swayed. Was moved by Taloreco. Taloreco, I'm excited to play some of these, some of these clips. So I actually have a montage because this is the Democrats hope in the Texas Democratic, I'm sorry, in the Texas Senate race.

After the runoff, we'll know who the Republican nominee is in late May, so May 26th. I just want to start with a compilation of some of the things that Taloreco himself has said on cultural issues.

So none of this is about economics, which he basically tried to run on.

What he was talking about is kind of the middle of the venn diagram between culture and economics. He's trying to run on how this is a race about not about left and right, but about top versus bottom, which was interesting against Croquet. He was very, like, deferential to Croquet throughout the race was kind of an interesting

campaign, but she didn't really go after him on a lot of this stuff. He really left a lot of this cultural stuff alone. But he was trying to say, this is like an anti elite campaign. Well, he has just about every elite opinion, conveniently, for as he was referred to in one headline, theologian, he conveniently has just about every single elite opinion on

culture war questions, take a look at this. Our southern border should be like our front porch. There should be a child. Welcome Matt. I want to acknowledge that our trans community needs abortion care too.

So when I use the word woman, it should not be understood as an exhaustive term, but rather as a lens, it's gonna go even when and Brooklyn anymore, examine and interrogate patriarchy. Hello to how we specify anti-black racism, God is both masculine and feminine and everything in between. God is non-binary.

I feel this in terms of the context of abortion because before God comes over Mary and we have the incarnation, God asks for Mary's consent, which is remarkable. I mean, go back and read this in Luke. So to me that is an affirmation in one of our most central stories that creation has to be done with consent.

He couldn't even win an election in Brooklyn anymore because that is such a cringe performance

of millennial progressivism, like peak millennial progressive buzzfeed era cultural politics from Tallahureka where he's, I mean, I could watch him earnestly say God is non-binary all day, earnestly deadpan about trans abortion rights and interrogating what he's interrogating the patriarchy. Again, that would have gotten you like an automatic A+ at Oberlin 10 years ago, but

now, I mean, these are things he said, like in the last five years, now it is so pathetic,

“I think we all understand that it comes from this very banal and uninteresting, again,”

well, of conformist politics, like conformist elite politics, and Tallahureka is not exactly

elite, he is in seminary, clearly progressive, theological progressive seminary, but it's not, I mean, it's the politics of somebody who is trying to signal that they are with the good side, with the right side of history, with the, honestly, with elite, it's over and over again on these cultural politics, and now he's trying to run a campaign about how this is about top versus bottom, not left versus right.

John Kornin and Ken Paxton are both far from perfect Republican candidates, so don't take this as me acting as though this is going to be a cakewalk for Republicans, I do not think

“that's the case, nor do I think either Kornin or Paxton are particularly good conservatives”

in their own right, they're very, like, moral stand up conservatives, they're very flawed,

politicians both are very flawed, politicians, so I'm not saying anything to that degree, I'm just saying, you know, Dave Wagle of Semaphore pointed out, Tallahureka handled in South Texas, where he seems to have done very well, he handled the border a bit differently than immigration policy should be like a front porch, Tallahureka, that version of Tallahureka, at least in that forum and not performance maybe dead, he was a little bit more careful about it,

so I think he's a smart politician, I think his politics are fundamentally boring millennial progressivism that puts him on cultural issues much more in line with elites than for example,

“working class Hispanics, then I think a lot of suburban Texas voters are going to want to see,”

his line is going to be that we are being divided on the culture war by tech elites that we are being divided on the culture war when in order to distract from the like robbery of robber barons, that's going to be how he tries to frame this, it's interesting, it's much better than anything Jasmine Crocket would have done, interesting as it would have been, but it's that's where he's going to have to fight against corn in her Paxton and again, better than Jasmine Crocket,

but when you are out there talking about trans abortion rights, can we put the tim Miller post up on the screen, I think we have it, I have it here too in the box, yeah okay, so let me put this up, this is Tim, who's of course, but on the show, he posted all the magas I follow are our teen Tallahureka tweets from five years ago, we'll see what the impact is, but it does reinforce my belief that the Dems would really benefit from finding an upstart in 2021 who emerged in 2022

and didn't really post during peak woke, maybe in Texas, maybe in Texas, but where I disagree with Tim, I mean, I think it's obviously true that if you're posting during peak woke, it was, again, bland, cringe millennial progressivism, if you're James Tallahureka's generation, yes, I think that's true, I think it's harmful in statewide races, all of the above, I think if Joe Rogan had gone down that list with Tallahureka, he would have had a really hard

time defending those positions to Joe Rogan's base, but I mean, look at this one, look at this one, this is Tallahureka saying, I got the coolest action figure for Christmas, thank you to all the healthcare superheroes working today, let's help by getting backst and boosted, this is December 25th 2021, it's a Fauci action figure, fun for the whole family, what little boy wouldn't want to wake up on Christmas morning to a Fauci action figure under his tree, so excited to have to

post about it on social media, nothing better, here's March 3rd 2021, James Tallahureka, why I'm still wearing a mask, big grin on his face, the mask says love that neighbor, which is

Republicans are going to have a field day with Tallahureka because he did post during peak woke,

yes, I think that's the case, but I also think one of the biggest problems for Democrats is that there is a not insignificant portion of the, of the electorate that actually does still demand

“things like trans abortion rights, it's not the average voter, but if you want to have a good”

relationship with the grassroots left, Tallahureka was trying to get the grassroots left, what it wants to hear on foreign policy and on economic policy and hopefully just don't have to talk about, you know, where does he stand on these things now, but you bet you're asked, drawing coordinate in Ken Paxon, you're going to force him to talk about trans abortion rights,

all of the, it's talking about the front porch, being a, having a welcome man on your front porch,

they're going to, they're going to go hard in on that, especially in a state like Texas on Tallahureka, and he is going to then be between a rock and a hard place, look at the trouble that Catapugas Olay has had in Illinois when hardcore leftist voters who thought they had found a champion in a book as Olay who was like blocking ice vehicles and really rose to prominence as a candidate, because of that, they found out she had a more normiest establishment for in policy and it's

been a struggle for her. So when Tallahureka has to talk about some of this stuff and either disavow those extreme left cultural positions or embrace them, he'll find himself between a rock

and a hard place, and I would just say to people on the left not to dismiss how some of this is

going to land with working class black and Hispanic voters, the notion for a long time was that on the left, you know, they had to use phrases like Latinx and they had to talk about intersectionality, which he literally did in that clip I just played, they had to do all of that because it's what black and Hispanic voters wanted, and then they kind of realized, well, no, I mean we'll see, but there's been a kind of consensus that, not really, that's probably

“not the best way to appeal to black and Hispanic voters, in fact many of them actually reject it”

because they're Christians or because they are cultural conservatives, and this clocks to them as elite bullshit. In the same way, you know, cutting social programs, clocks to people as elite bullshit, they're like, this is what corporations were pushing. And so the line that Tallahureka was going to argue about how it was, it's elites who are pushing the culture war is not exactly true because the way he's trying to say it as little elites or the elites are trying to divide us in favor

of the billionaires in the culture war by pushing, forcing us to talk about these things. I'm sorry, but the leftist one that's forced every single one of these conversations, the right has responded, don't get me wrong, the right has responded and there are lots of billionaires who love talking about culture war issues so that we are distracted from economic issues and

“those divisions don't get me wrong, I think that's absolutely true, but let's not act like”

the culture war wasn't pushed by people who were out there saying we had to care about trans abortions and give Fauci action figures and post about wonderful Fauci action figures and just like again, down the line of him talking about, he's the one who started talking about Mary and consent incorrectly by the way, that's not what Luke says unless you have, unless you are trying to see it that way, like actively trying to see it that way and block out any of the evidence

to the contrary, this is the angel Gabriel in the book of Luke, do not be afraid Mary, you have found favor with God, you will conceive and give birth to a son and you are to call him Jesus. Notice, you will conceive and give birth to a son, not consent as Talleriko is framing this because Mary accepts that that is God asking for consent in the book of Luke, I need to go down this rabbit hole because frankly it's so ridiculous, we see actually really baby

John and baby Jesus, baby John the Baptist and baby Jesus leaping for joy in the mother's wounds, we see them having lives when they are still in utero that are worth mentioning in scripture, so it's also, but it's going to be fascinating to watch this race of all if we will obviously continue to follow it. I've got Roger Stone coming up in just one moment and I'm excited to

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in just one moment, want to set the table a little bit first, JFK files have been coming out,

since the Trump administration demanded transparency, induced this season of heightened transparency and appalling a Luna Republican and the House of Representatives has been spearheading this, and we are learning more. JFK Facts, the Substack, tracks this very well, they even have an AI integration and appalling a Luna and Jefferson Morley have had very helpful conversations. Jeff Morley runs JFK Facts, he is rigorous investigator in this space, and has found some documents

in the recent releases that are very much game-changing. Again he's somebody who's who's followed this for a really long time, but Roger Stone has as well. Roger Stone says he had a conversation with Richard Nixon himself. We're Richard Nixon told Roger Stone that it was LBJ behind the Kennedy assassination, and this matters right now as people are doing these excavations of water-date history, of Kennedy history, and of what's happened to Donald Trump. Roger actually brings that up

in our interview. So this is an interview I've wanted to do for a very long time. Roger Stone knew or knows, Howard Hunt. If you haven't read Howard Hunt's memoir, it's called American Spy, it's one of those that's really hard to get, but his forced-gump style life in the CIA and

“intelligence worlds, I think he actually even goes back to the OSS, is fascinating, and Roger wrote”

the forward to Hunt's son, St. John Hunt's memoir. And in that forward, Roger wrote before the Elder Hunt passed away in 2007. He outlined to St. John, the CIA's role, and St. John, by the way, in Hunt's memoir he talks about St. John being part of unknowingly, throwing like water-gate evidence into a river. So this is people who know a lot. So he writes the CIA's role in toppling governments, Hunt passed away. He outlined to St. John the CIA's role in toppling governments plotting against

Fidel Castro confirming the involvement of CIA agents in a plot to kill JFK and noted that Vice President Lyndon Johnson was "running the show." So all of that in mind, I really wanted to talk for months who've been trying to make this work with Roger Stone. He's in a car for this interview. We might try to get him back on to have a really long, big picture conversation. I'd love to do that at some point because of everything that he knows and he says has happened, but in the

second Trump presidency where we see so much, we see some parallels. There's clearly a fight

happening within the intelligence community right now. Over JFK documents, over disclosures and other cases. The January 6th pipe bomb investigation, for example, even Trump world was torn apart over some of this. So I wanted to bring in Roger and I hope you enjoyed this interview with him. Well, I'm very excited to be joined now by the man with the legend Roger Stone. He's of course host of the of the Stone Zone and he writes over at Stone Cold Truth on Substack. Roger, thank you

for being here. I'm delighted and honored to be here. Well, there's so much going on that you have insight into right now in the world. And I wanted to start with JFK files. This is an interesting moment. Very interesting moment because a lot of Kennedy files have been released, not all. Researchers are in the process of pouring over them trying to figure out what's new, continuing putting the pieces of the puzzle together. There's also something we're going on

in pop culture, the Wall Street Journal, just this week pointed out that Gen Z is obsessed with the

the new James Rosenbook being reconsidered and we're talking about regime changing Cuba again. So Roger,

“let's start on a question about the Kennedy files. You knew many people, many of the people in this”

case, Richard Nixon, G. Gordon Litty. I know you know St. John Hunt who's the son of Howard Hunt.

So Roger, from the new information, you've always looked right at Lyndon Bench Dronson, of course,

because you posted this very recently, just a couple weeks ago, you said Nixon told me who killed JFK, Nixon called the Warren Commission, the biggest goddamn hoax in American history, Lyndon and I both wanted to be president. The difference was I wasn't willing to kill for it, the president muttered to me over martinis at his saddle river home. Nixon to the CIA and the mob were both in on it. So with documents that have been recently released, do you feel they're

vindicating what you've been writing about and speaking from your own experience about for the last several

“decades? Yes, I think it's important to see the entire context. So what I am saying is that Lyndon Johnson,”

as the vice president, was at the helm of a plot that included the central intelligence agency, that included organized crime, that included certain foreign and financial interests, that included big text to soil, all of whom had their own individual reason to replace John F. Kennedy. No one's interest is more cute than Lyndon Johnson. He's under investigation in two massive corruption scandals. The Billy Assal Estus scandal, Billy Salestus was a

flamboyant Texas wheelie dealer and con man. Johnson has obtained multi-million dollar agricultural

contracts for non-existent properties, or Estus who is kicking back hundreds of thousands of dollars of Johnson. I also the Bobby Baker scandal, Bobby Baker is the sergeant at arm of arms of the U.S. Senate. He is Johnson's right hand man and nothing in the U.S. Senate moves without payoffs to Lyndon Baines Johnson through Bobby Baker. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. then the attorney general had already begun telling people that Johnson would be prosecuted, that Johnson would be dropped from the 1964

ticket. So Johnson is a man staring into the abyss. Johnson has a number of allies. He knows that the central intelligence agency claims Kennedy for the failure of the Bay of Pigs invasion.

“Although I think that argument is wrong, the original plan as presented to President Kennedy”

for the Bay of Pigs invasion included 29 and a million flagged bombers supposed to be flown out of Panama to provide air cover for the Cuban eggzile storming the beaches, the CIA cancels that air cover at the very last minute, but the invasion goes ahead. That allows the head of the joint chiefs and the head of the Air Force Kurdish Limey to tell the President, one of the surprises, there's only one way to save the day. Send in the U.S. Air Force, that of course,

might have led to World War III and Kennedy wisely refused. But that is largely the CIA's motive for the murder of Kennedy. Oliver Stone, who's not related to Mabel, who made a great moment, makes a case that Vietnam was also a factor. It was a lesser factor, although there is some evidence that Kennedy was prepared to begin withdrawal from Vietnam and, of course, we do know, almost immediately upon becoming President Johnson reverses those orders to begin returning

men. So I think that is also a factor. Yeah. Oh, go ahead, Red Cross. Organized primers motive is very simple. They elected line candidate, John Kennedy. They twisted arms for him and the Wisconsin primary. They twisted arms for him and engaged in voter intimidation in both Illinois and Texas. And in return, they were supposed to get an agreement to end the deportation proceedings of Sinto Trafford

Conte and Carlos Marcelo, two of the most powerful gangsters of the day. So basically,

Robert Kennedy double crosses the mob and he goes after Sinto Trafford Conte and Carlos Marcelo,

Marcelo is using to show him is a Guatemalan resident. So I give huge credit,

“particularly to Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna. She done an amazing job of forcing”

the Central Intelligence Agency to spit up the documents, many documents they've been hiding for years. If I have any criticism, the president ordered the national archives to turn over all documents pertaining to the Kennedy assassination, also the assassination of Robert Kennedy, Senator Robert Kennedy, also the assassination of Dr. King. However, not all of the necessary documents are in the hands of the National Archives. The CIA has held a number of those

key documents back in a Polina Luna has been relentless about getting those documents.

And she's proven, for example, that the CIA has been telling us for over 50 years, they had no prior knowledge of Oswald. They didn't know what he was doing. They not only knew everything about him, but he had a handler. And we now have that handler's records. So I think that I have been vindicated. I think that there was hate this word, a conspiracy to kill Kennedy and I've named those who I think were deeply involved.

Why do you think President Nixon did not? I mean, he actually kind of talked about this on one of

“the tapes. He said, I'm, you know, I get it. I get the dirty tricks. I think it's important,”

but he never, he never exposed to anyone. I mean, he told you to hold a view,

but he didn't go public with it. And why do you think Donald Trump, who I know you're still in contact with, why doesn't he just go public with it? Why is the Trump CIA still stonewalling or tempting to? Well, from the minute he was elected, Nixon sought to get the documents from the CIA. He sent John Erlick Bend, who was then his legal counsel to the CIA and Richard Holmes, flatly refused to give President Nixon the documents that he believed would have proved

that that the agency had been involved in the murder of Kennedy. There's a very specific interrogate Erlick Bend Tucker Carlson played it in one of its last ones on Fox. I wrote about it very extensively in which President Nixon confronts the CIA director Richard Holmes in his office, and he says to him, "Flatly, look, I know who shot John. His exact words." Roger, I really wanted to ask you because you personally knew people who have knowledge of this,

and you certainly were around at the time, you yourself worked for Richard Nixon, Bay of Pigs, Kennedy assassination, Watergate. There's the Howard Hunt element of all that, and again, I know you know Hunt Sun, St. John Hunt. I know you know Jigorden Litty, and as we're learning or new Jigorden Litty, RIP, but as we're learning more about watergate, and about everything that happened, how do you make sense of all three of those events

having you know some knowledge of that world?

“Because I think these are all connected events. I think the it's not incidental that”

four of the Watergate burglars are not only on the payroll of the CIA at the time of the break-in, but those four men are on the ground in Dilly Plaza in 1963 when John Kennedy is killed. That's not a coincidence. I believe that there is a straight line from the murderer of JFK to the silent and cool under which Richard Nixon was four of the Watergate burglars were still on the active payroll of the CIA still reporting to their enverse. The Watergate special

prosecutor knew this. They knew if the CIA is involvement, they said did nothing. The Senate Watergate committee, including the Republicans, Senator Howard Baker, knew about the CIA's involvement, did nothing about it. So I think those who killed Kennedy also effectively removed Nixon. And now we have news that the deep state specifically the Joint Chiefs were actively spying on Nixon from the very beginning of his administration. Why? They didn't want to end

the war in Vietnam. They didn't want us to teach at Carms limitation agreement with the Soviets. They did not want to open the door to China and play China off against Russia in order to get

apparatus in a way to take power away from the unelected deep state referred to by Dwight Eisenhower as the military industrial complex. They go step further. These are the same forces who attempted

to kill President Ronald Reagan in the first year of his term and they failed assassination.

“I believe they are the same forces who try quite twice perhaps now three times to kill”

President Donald Trump. This is the deep state. They do operate as Jack Smith's investigation shows us extra contact outside the parameters of the law. So I think this is one history, one continued history, not the same people obviously, but the same entities and the same network of those inside our military, inside our national security apparatus, inside the think tanks, inside the defense contractors, those are the black hats of history, if you will.

Well, and lastly, Roger Donald Trump, as you said, was the target of an assassination attempt in a very odd one, that was some obvious parallels. Does that mean, you know, Chuck Schumer has his famous quote about it. If you mess with the intelligence agencies, they have seven ways back

“to Sunday to get back at you directly to Donald Trump. Does that mean that we should, you know,”

maybe expect full transparency by the end of the Trump second term because he doesn't have to be

reelected and he has motivation to get everything out there. Someone who knows him, what do you think about that, Roger? I look, I'm hopeful because we learned recently, for example, that the FBI prior to the election was was surveilling a phone conversation between President Trump's campaign manager Susie Wiles in her attorney. That's spying on your opponent in a presidential election, isn't that what they were, they were at a clear list. Now, in that same time period,

the FBI contacted me to tell me that my email had been compromised. My email specifically with some of those in the Trump campaign, including Susie Wiles, but the FBI insisted to my lawyers

that this hacking was done by the Iranians. How do we know that? How do we know that that hacking

wasn't done by, well, the FBI themselves? So, yes, look how long it's taken us to get answers about Lee Arby Oswald and whether he was indeed the real shooter of John F. Kennedy, which I sincerely based on my own book and my own research doubt. I still don't think we know everything about Thomas Matthew Brooks, I'm not even sure, he is the man who killed, uh, oh, tried to kill President Trump, who did, unfortunately, kill, glory and commentary, the fireman who's unfortunately

standing, didn't want the President to try to, I'm still not thinking that Ryan Routh, the man was convicted of, and President West Palm Beach is not a CIA-operated, there's a lot of evidence to me, to me that would indicate that he is. Roger Stone, the host of the Stone Zone, and such interesting writings on the Silverett Stone Cold Truth. Thank you for being so generous for your time this afternoon, and I really appreciate it.

All right, that was Roger Stone, the one and only you couldn't probably tell from that interview, how eager I was to pick his brain. So maybe we'll go along with him at some point, and can really, really go deep into the people he knows and hear his Nixon story, he's told it many times, but it's one that, you hear it and you still have a lot of questions, you could hear it ten times, you still have a lot of questions about why Richard Nixon was sipping a martini

and telling a young Roger Stone that he knew, uh, LBGA was the one who killed John F. Kennedy,

“the CIA elements, this are just essential, so very, very good to hear from Roger Stone.”

Before we wrap the show for the evening, I want to tell you about the case, the tragic case, of Stephanie Nicole Minter, who's a 41-year-old mother, killed at a bus stop in Northern Virginia, on February 23rd. This is the people magazine article headline here, "Mama was fatally stabbed allegedly by a parent stranger while waiting at Virginia bus stop." As the facts are emerging about what actually happened, they're absolutely disgusting.

So let me go to this WJLA, this is the local ABC affiliate Fairfax counties, right outside of Washington, DC. It was one of the wealthiest counties in the country. It is a very blue county, um, the headline from Nick Minock, who has been on this beat, is email show Fairfax

mother of a son, she survived by her grandmother, mother, brothers, she was at a bus stop,

“in Northern Virginia, and was stabbed to death by allegedly this man, Abdul Jalo, who's a”

native of Sierra Leone, he's a national Sierra Leone, DHS says he was in the country illegally that he came in 2012, and now Nick Minock has obtained emails showing quote Fairfax County Police warned the county's Commonwealth's attorney about the undocumented immigrant accused of killing a woman at a Hyblo Valley bus stop email correspondent shows. Minock did a FOIA request to the local government and found emails that quote show the Fairfax County Police Department warning

Fairfax County Commonwealth attorney Steve Descano's office about Abdul Jalo, a Sierra Leone

national who DHS said is in the country illegally, he is now charged with murdering Stephanie

Minter at that Fairfax County bus stop. Now the email said, this was from a county police major to the county chief deputy Commonwealth attorney Jenna Sands. He said, I wanted to bring Mr. Jalo's release to your attention because Mr. Jalo is one of the repeat and violent offenders we discussed when we met. I wanted to get your background on why he is out so soon and ask if his

“prior suspended sentence of I believe five years was pursued by your office. Unfortunately based”

on MTV stations, numerous dealings with him. It is not a question of if but rather when he will maliciously wound or worse again. My role of keeping the public safe prompts me to follow up on his status. I cannot believe what that is like reading. If you are the family or the loved ones of Stephanie Minter where you have a warning here in writing from the local police to the deputy Commonwealth attorney, it's in writing a police major saying it's not a question of if but rather

when he will maliciously wound and then chillingly in parentheses or worse again. Now might not go on to report. This is insane. Jalo has more than 40 past charges in Fairfax County ranging from rape to assault and in almost every case, Deskana's office dropped the charges. It's you couldn't

“write a story. This damaging or this damning for the less combination of immigration policies”

and criminal justice reform. Steve Deskana is not a super well named like some other prosecutors have been. I want to put this one up on the screen. This is from Tim Carney who's far from a French person. Tim is one of the best reporters in Washington. He's on the right. But Tim is absolutely rigorous and he's been writing about Steve Deskana because Tim loves an order of Virginia for a long time. Deskana is described by Tim as a quote George Soros funded

Connell also attorney for the suburban county of one million who has openly stated he won't

force the law when it clashes with his ideology. The results have been ugly. Richard Cox was already a serial offender when he exposed himself in a women's locker room in Fairfax. But Deskana let him go and he proceeded to expose himself in a high school girl's locker room. Abdul Jalo was arrested more than 30 times including for malicious wounding but was repeatedly set free. He has now accused of stabbing Stephanie Mentor to death on February 23rd. Greg Glyer was executed

in his bed in a calculated assassination. Deskana let the killer go with an insanity plea. And a Chinese pimp Tim continues ran a brothel and a residential neighborhood across the street from a school bus stop. Well police did everything they could to shut it down. Deskana's office dropped the prostitution charges and let the place continue operating until the Republican attorney general got it shudder. People who live in these communities, deep blue communities,

I'm talking about Democrats who live in these communities feel utterly helpless because all of the money was and all of the money in the momentum consequently was with these sorrows type prosecutors who are criminal justice reformers, but of a very particular persuasion on the left. They're far left criminal justice reformers and these experiments have played out in many communities around the country over the last 10 years and voters including Democratic voters

in places like San Francisco have rejected them. People like Larry Crassner have hung on amidst recall elections to be sure. But that's a great example of another place where people just feel utterly helpless because of where the money has lined up on criminal justice reform

a Republican or Republican prosecutor elected. So your choice is a far left Democrat who is so far

“left they're able to attract sorrows funding and attention from those big ideological donors”

or a moderate who is probably not even on the radar of a lot of people because again we're talking about county level prosecutors, sorrows is the one who again for his ideological goals you can give them some credit for this pioneered the model of being a billionaire with a non-profit that's going to suddenly focus tons of energy on these local prosecutor races. And that's where again people in these areas who are even not even Republicans. I mean there

are Republicans and not insignificant numbers and even blue cities, but people just feel helpless. It's like the stuff is happening despite logic and despite the politics. It's like people

“feel they can't do anything about it. So the case of Stephanie Minter, a man who's been arrested”

30 times he has no permanent address sounds like he was homeless and he was praying on other homeless people they say a lot of times they couldn't find witnesses to corroborate and bring evidence. When you have 30 cases of arrest on charges ranging from rape to other violence and this guy is out on the streets you have a warning from the police a warning from the police and he's out on the streets the point where he stabs someone

is completely ridiculous. Finally this is a new video from Nick Minock who was trying to ask

the Virginia Lieutenant governor about the case. Here's what happened.

Nurgazala Hashmi about the case. I'm Nick Minock was just tonight. It was just how to get to reaction to the murder of a woman in Fairfax County at the hands of allegedly an illegal immigrant what is your reaction? It's handled by the bodyguard. Lieutenant governor, what's your reaction to the murder in Fairfax County? No response? That was just three hours ago. Copper response of course would be

it's a horrible case. I'm so sorry. That was a little bit too much at the moment for the Lieutenant governor of Kassala Hashmi. Again, I'd try not to be depressing and Blake but it does feel like these cases just keep happening and just keep happening and happening. A reminder that 100% of crime committed by people who should not be in this country. Let alone on the streets. We have seen cases of Native born Americans not even Sierra Leone

Nationals who have had rap sheets like this who are allowed to victimize other Americans on the streets. It's not right neither case but 100% of crime committed by non-citizens is preventable insane that you have a non-citizen with a rap sheet like that who is on the streets. Virginia Democrats are going to have to answer for this one. This case is really starting to get

traction. I was worried when I first saw it that it would be just another drop in the bucket but

it's not. Stephanie Mentor is not just a statistic and it's time to wake up. Time to wake up. All right. I'll leave it there for tonight. I could keep going on as you know but I appreciate everybody tuning in. Please do as a favor and subscribe. You have like 24 hours roughly to get an email in for this week's happy hour over at Emily at DevilMakerummedia.com. I usually record those on Thursday afternoon so I will look forward to reading your comments and your questions

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