Marcus Mumford

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>> I don't know if this is the place for it. >> It's okay. >> It's okay. >> This probably loves him.

>> This is an incredible episode.

This fuck, we are so happy with this, yes. This was so much fun. Marcus Mumford. Marcus is a Grammy award winning singer, songwriter, musician, and record producer.

Is the lead singer of the band, Mumford, and songs. His albums include Sino More. Babel. Wilder Mind. Delta Ding Ding, Rushmeer.

And is a new Mumford and Sudden's album out now? Call prize fighter. Listen to it. We're lucky enough to have heard him blast us. >> Yeah, spoil the life performance.

>> He sings for us. >> Yeah. >> So it's incredible. And the album is incredible. >> Yeah, he sings the shit out of that song.

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of every Grand Prix, including practice, qualifying, and sprints. All in one place. Watch every race live, only on Apple TV. [MUSIC] >> Yes, sir.

>> Get that beautiful, it's gorgeous. >> It's gorgeous. >> Yeah, they're the inlay. Where do you guys live? >> Oh, shit.

She grew up going to school, driving by Stonehenge. >> Can I remember in the right place? >> Yeah, yeah. >> Knowing not. >> Oh, for you.

>> I'm fucking thinking of the gale. >> This is embarrassing. We're cutting all of it. >> We're leaving it all in. I'm failing in my 51st year.

No, no, that was from Fargo Season 5.

And to Lasso, most incredible actress.

She's from down there and she used to cross Stonehenge on the way to school. >> She went to be Dales, didn't she? >> Is that one school that lots of that? >> Oh. >> And the Allen went there.

>> Wow. >> Very in the news right now. >> We just had our 1,000 episode and I'm pretty good at keeping the details straight. But I have conflated to English powerhouse actors. >> She was also zoomed.

>> She was zoomed and that's part of her. >> Carry was zoomed. >> Yeah. >> So that's harder. >> It's like that happened, but they didn't happen.

>> Yeah. >> How do you do this? >> Well, let me show you what happened. >> Because I'm silly. >> This is the only brand of laws in July.

The other ones give me chaos between you and I, Marcus.

“>> Because you have to push a bit of an indigestion barrier with the gum.”

>> Mm-hm. >> Because on the other side is the relationship. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I'm in two milligrams. I've fucked that away. And I'm in touch the sides. That's right. It's all have full.

>> And so I have to supplement with the spra- >> Yeah.

>> So I basically make this a full. >> Yeah. It's an apothecary. Yeah.

>> Yeah. >> Fantastic. >> Are you in nicotine head? >> Yeah. >> I just saw the gum in his eyes. >> It's my last remaining advice. Other than pride, sort of general continuous. >> [LAUGH] >> Nicara is my last one. >> Okay, that's good.

>> But Marcus, we should not aim to get rid of it. >> Yeah. I don't even know that we should call it a vice other than we would die without it. >> In that respect. >> Yeah, well, that's true. >> When are you called a virtue? >> It's a virtue. >> [LAUGH]

>> Do people ask you, like non-nicotine users when they see you consume it. Compulsive leader, they go, what's the make you feel like do they ask you that? >> Yeah, I get bit of that or I get a bit of like what brand of gum you've obsessed with. >> [LAUGH] >> And what's your answer to the feeling you get because I have a go to? >> I only get a feeling with the lack of it. >> I think the feeling is absence of expectation.

>> Thank you. >> That's a much more eloquent. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> I don't feel it. Other than the morning, the morning is nice. >> The first coffee and a f*cking pop pop pop. >> Yeah.

“>> Poppy poppy get a buzz? >> I think they don't.”

>> From the first one. >> No, I get a buzz from my first coffee. >> Yes, yes. >> And I've taken coffee much more seriously since I stopped drinking. >> One did you stop drinking? >> No, I didn't. >> Oh wow. >> It does a 19? >> Yes.

>> Good news. >> Yeah, yeah. >> I didn't grab this. >> I didn't know that we had that overlapped. >> Yeah, what about you? >> I haven't drank in 21 years. >> Wow. >> But I had a nice little go-round with opiates during COVID. >> Okay. >> Bad spell.

>> I had to detox in the whole night.

>> Don't call it a relapse. >> I've been here for years.

>> You're too young to know. >> No, you know. >> You know you guys were the same age. >> We are. >> Oh man. >> It's a lovely age. >> It's a good age. I like it too. About to hit 40. >> Coming into our prime. >> That's right. How do you feel about it?

>> I feel fantastic. >> Yeah, me too. >> I like it. We're just talking about it. You know, occupying that space between our kids and our parents. >> Yeah. >> It's kind of a nice place to be figuring stuff out. >> Don't you feel like it's the age, though, work time is starting.

11/11, everyone make a wish. >> Oh. >> So don't you feel like it's the age where you start really feeling the passage of time, because your parents are aging and then you have your kids. >> Feel like a slight shift in authority.

“>> I feel like it's time to sort of know what I think.”

>> Interesting. >> Whereas before you can kind of rely on the opinions of your elders a little bit, and I don't know, a lot of people go through spaces in their 20s where they're like, "Really? This is definitely what I think." >> I like, I don't have many answers for a while. >> A lot of questions. >> Where's them see being in as what you're feeling. >> Maybe, yeah, maybe.

>> But so if I do the math now, then I think you and I are on nearly identical trajectories. Did you quit at 29? >> About 31, yeah. >> I don't actually know. I think it was 2019. >> Where are we now, 26? So that's six and a half years, and I am 38. >> My wife and I are so equally bad at maths on my last birthday.

>> She wrote me my birthday card, and she said, "Happy 39th birthday." And it took me a full three hours before I went next door with my calculator. >> [LAUGH] >> And it was the year, because I knew the year minus the year I was born. >> Sure. >> Which I thought was quite clever way to calculate it.

>> It turns out I was 38. >> Yes, that's right. >> Actually, for my birthday, she got me an extra year. >> I mean, these parallels will be coming up. >> January 2nd of this year, I walk into my bathroom and my lovely bride,

who's handwritten me a beautiful card, and it says, "Happy 50 second birthday."

And I thought, "Oh, she accidentally wrote a two on the inside, she'll get it straight." >> No doubles down on 52, three or four times a week. [LAUGH] >> Oh my God, David's actresses, if they can't do it. >> And then we'll get into on their last fun parallels.

“But hey, you know, I think we got a lot of them.”

>> So I think strangely, you were born in California. >> What's, indeed, strange. Yeah, I was born in New England, right into knowledge county, which is heavy heavy Christian country. >> Yes, which is why I was born there.

>> Yes, so mom and dad worked for a release in church. >> Yeah, in a church called the Vineyard Church. >> Which weirdly, Bob Dylan journey Mitchell went to with T-Bomb and there. >> Oh, well, really? >> Really?

>> Yeah. >> And then my parents went out and were there for a couple of years, and got trained up by the guy who led it, called John Wimber, who's like a grandpa to me, and was used to bring me quick silver t-shirts when he used to come and stay.

And sort of this large bearded American, very California, kind of guy with Hawaiian shirts to show up in southwest London. >> Like a real fish, our water, and was this amazing guy, he was actually in the righteous brothers. >> Oh, he was.

>> Oh, yeah.

“>> And I was sort of gave up all that and then went west.”

>> Was it mega churchy style? >> No, well, it's a bit smaller than that. >> Very community-based. >> It's an amazing church. I mean, like all churches, it has its flaws, but it was kind of a cool

community to grow up in. We had a real open house.

We had always had people through.

The church bought the house next door to us and knocked through the wall as a guest house. I loved hospitality. It was always baking, cooking stuff. And so I'd sit in the kitchen with her.

>> Watch her and listen to music. >> And talk. >> But what makes me think your parents must be pretty unique in their own right is my very good friend from London. It was just here last week, British automotive journalists,

Jeff Rowan. We were in the hot tub chatting about religion. And he was really saying, you know, it's so different there than here. I mean, even that evangelical kind of strain is so nommonic here. He's really wrapping his head around, because he's married to an American

want me with American parents from the Bible belt. And he's trying to understand how deep it goes. >> Yeah. >> So because it's so not standard, there what took your parents there.

>> My dad was working for the Church of England, which is very traditionalist and you know, wearing a dog collar and doing lots of kind of lost rights, birth, weddings, and females. That was the jam. >> Victory.

>> The big three. I saw Wimbler speak at Westminster Central Hall in like 85. Both my parents felt like we've got to go to California and understand what this thing is about, which is a real risk at that point in their careers and their lives.

They had one kid. >> Because the Church of England had to have frowned upon that. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah, that. >> Yeah, that.

>> And so it's a risk.

And they went out and felt like that's what they're supposed to do with their lives.

“They felt like that's what God was telling them to do.”

And so they went out to Orange County to go spend time with Wimbler and learn about how they did church and then planted the first church of that kind outside of the US in our little front room in Wimbler. >> Okay, which is Wimbler than the tennis venue we think of. >> Yeah, that's right.

>> South West London. >> Yeah. >> What kind of kid were you there? Do you have siblings? >> Yeah, I have an older brother six years older than me.

>> My wife's a little sibling as well. And both are older brothers fiercely intelligent. Both went to Oxford University double first. And so we grew up as the younger kids who had to like juggle in the corner for attention, because we couldn't keep up with the conversation at the dinner table.

>> Yeah, yeah. >> So I think let's part of that. >> Okay, if you're a smart old thing. >> Yeah, exactly. >> It was a bit of that.

>> Watch me, so play the drums on source pants. >> Smart vibe.

>> And then always had this kind of California streak culturally in my life.

So I like per ox. I blonde my hair when I'm 10. When I first met my wife actually. >> Where did you go? >> I mean, a mobile camp.

>> Bible camp. >> I met her when you were 10. >> Yeah, we were a pen pal. >> What? >> Yeah, she was about a foot taller than me.

She's an absolute giant and that time. And I was quite small. >> I love that you say she was a giant. Not that you were small. >> And I would go on her shoulders in the swimming pool.

>> Yeah, yeah. >> She wrote in her journal. I met this boy called Marcus. He's two years younger than me. Not underlying boyfriend material.

>> My god. >> He was Bridget Jones. >> I got a nine at 10. And my cousin, he was her age. >> Oh, really good.

>> Before we keep proceeding, you're married to Kerry Mulligan. >> I have to say that. >> He said he doesn't know that.

>> I always hate when people say that.

>> When I'm an interview, but a last. >> Everyone's talking like we should know the why. >> Right. Now, that needs to be framed in your house. >> We do have that.

It's not framed. We use the facts each other. >> That's true.

“>> What kind of facts is pictures and doodles and anything naughty?”

Nothing naughty. No, we were like 11, you know. >> Yeah. >> Tell me everything. >> Tell me everything.

>> My doodling generally. I found my way into penis and balls. Cowboys. >> There's a lot of that. I'm sure I'm fresh.

>> I'm not stupid. >> I'm okay. >> On the meat head now. >> Yeah, beautiful. But if nothing got her.

>> Okay, so if I say you liked her. >> I don't remember feelings like that. >> Okay, okay. >> No, she was a friend. And we kept in touch until we were like 14 or something.

And we lost contact. We were both on Facebook for about six months window. >> Yeah. >> As a college. And she was somehow Facebook.

And we got in touch through that. But then we both quit. And we're out of touch. And then I saw her on a billboard for an education. >> Oh.

>> And went and saw it. And then was in Los Angeles. >> Okay, no, I'm back up. >> Okay, so I'm speeding up. >> No, I just want to know.

Because I have this with this girl, Daniel Fox, who lived at the end of this street of my grandparents house.

And I would always spend the summer at my grandparents house.

And I was just wildly in love with her. >> Uh-huh.

“>> Why had been driving around at some point in saw Daniel Fox on a billboard?”

And then I went to the movie. I would have been fucked up. I guess what I'm asking is, when you saw the movie, where you were like, oh, God damn. Little bit?

>> Yeah. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> My wife's one of the most peaceful women of all time.

>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> With respect, I agree. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Also, you were probably like, but I know her,

but that's her buddy. >> Yeah. >> And then eventually, when we reconnected, it was like, I know you. >> Yeah.

>> You always, actually, who I know you. >> Yeah. >> And it was cool. >> We got married pretty quick, right? >> Yeah, yeah.

>> And I think because of that. >> Right. >> Because it's like, yeah. >> You guys were both at a really interesting moment in time for yourself professionally.

And that it's starting to work for you. And this whole new world, at least in my experience, was like, it's fun, but it's chaotic. Is it real? Maybe it's a fight. At that moment, when life's getting a little hard to kind of comprehend,

to plug back into somebody who is experiencing the same thing and from the same place. >> So she came down to Nashville. We were writing our second album. First album just come out.

We toured it. It gone well. We were writing the second one in this rental home. We had lots of friends there that come over and he's weird. They're picking parties.

And then we were playing in someone's basement. The room, this size. A friend of mine in LA, who I've been staying with and talked with about Mary had gone to New York, seen her. Called me and was like, "We're going to come to Nashville,

see you play this basement show." And they arrived in Nashville that time. I was stood outside the Starbucks. And I could see them come out. And she runs down and jumps.

>> It's like, "Game over." [ Laughter ] >> Like, I'll be married in minutes. >> Two days before that, we got the cool asking us to play at the Grammys for the first time.

We bought Dylan. And so she entered stage left. At the moment, that was weird for me. And she had just been nominated for an Oscar and done the whole thing with an education.

She was a couple years ahead of her year, however.

And was so helpful to me in that moment.

“Being like, "Look, you can be in control of this."”

And you can say, "Yes." So you can also say, "No." And I was not in a phase in my life. Not saying no to anything. >> For sure.

>> So she was so helpful. And you were actually right, it was just at this moment. >> You're getting untethered. >> We left Nashville. She flew to LA to be with me during rehearsals.

And it's just like four days after we'd reconnect it. >> Wow. >> And then she had to leave again. She was shooting a shame. >> But then somehow inside that Davis.

>> Inside Lewandoo. >> Is that somehow part of this? >> No, that comes a bit later. When we played with Dylan at the Grammys, that was the first time I met T-bone Burnett

who has become like a sort of fairy godfather to me in music. And he said, "Any time from now on, I'm doing something interesting or you're doing something." That's cool each other.

>> That's awesome. >> So then when the camera was called Hemp to inside Lewandoo, and Davis, he called me and said, "You want to come and be my." >> Wow.

>> The title was associate producer or something. And so I just was there and carried it was in the movie. >> Do we start singing in church? >> Not really. >> When's music star?

Music starts early. Like pots and pans, playing drums, and now is a drummer. >> And who was your bottom who is your god? >> Yeah, I was more bonnet than star. You were one of the other.

But became star. >> Okay. >> Well, we're in go later. My guy was a guy called Terion Gully, who's jazz drummer played for a guy called Christian McBride.

And I went and saw him play with my skateboard. He signed my skate. When I was 13, a piece of espresso with my mom. >> Was mom or dad super into music? They were all very into music, none of them played anything.

>> They just played it in the house. >> I'm just curious that they stick with the church. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Because I do think we interview a lot of people, generally more R&B singers, females who they grew up singing in church.

>> And such a great tradition. >> And I do worry as much as I have my reservations about religion. >> Most of all of R&B at starts in church in America. And I just wonder, like, as that, fragments, where's the next crop?

“Where are all these young kids start learning to sing like that?”

>> Yeah. >> And school quasi? >> I didn't get into the main school quasi. I was in the B team. >> And we learned to sing harmony.

>> Just fun and very helpful. >> I was going to say that's a good skill probably. >> Yeah. >> We wouldn't sing that more tender parts. We'd sing the alto parts.

And my mom was an alto too.

So she always sang harmony in the kitchen.

Whatever we listened to. >> And what kit were you playing? >> Did you have the kit you wanted? >> Yes, I did get a Yamaha Maple, which is why I wanted it. >> And it was natural wood.

>> A lot of hands on it. >> It was great. >> Very functional. >> It was a work course. >> Do you collect drum sets?

>> I do. >> What's the coolest one you got? >> Ed Sparkle, Ludwig, 60's Care. >> Okay. >> And a champagne Sparkle.

>> 60's Care. And I really like these CNC kits that are new. >> And then what about guitar when do we pick up guitar? >> Towards late teens. >> And so you were a skateboarder in the jazz.

>> Who is going to be now? >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> With products I've blonde hair. >> At a public school.

>> At a public school. >> It's a sublime because the California influence in my life. No one else was listening to Neil Young about her. No one else was listening to sublime.

So I always had that little extra cultural.

Lane. >> Now, I was a skateboarder punk rock, bleach tear spike, the whole nine. And really, I was just so insecure. I was rejecting the other style I didn't think I could nail.

>> But it read is incredible confidence to my peers. Thank God. >> Did that happen with you? >> I got sent home from school. >> Okay.

>> So it wasn't allowed blonde hair. >> Which is it? >> Yeah. >> And incredible. >> So that was the kind of school I went to.

>> Yeah. >> King's College. >> College? >> Are you researching? >> Yeah.

>> But it's a public school. I guess I've got a maybe you would have gone to. >> No, we call it public, but it's private. So my parents spent all of their church salary on my education. Just why then when I left college,

it was a responsibility. >> Yeah, you got to Edinburgh University. >> Yeah. >> Because we had no other. They spent all of their money on my education.

>> Yeah. >> So you felt like you needed to pay them back. >> So I felt slightly get, so I, in terms of my rest development, felt like I was on sabbatical from university. From like most of my career until now,

I feel comfortable in my skin and this new record that we've made. It's my favorite thing we've ever done. And I feel like now is the moment where I get to really embrace being an artist. >> Wow. >> Whereas before I was felt like I was kind of moonlighting.

>> Proving yourself? >> Not so much that. It was just like I was on a track. >> You have been feeling like you're supposed to return to university for 20 years, and now you finally don't feel like you've returned.

>> Yeah. >> And this record, this price, price record is like it for me. >> That's great. >> Yeah. >> But how is it going socially?

>> These interests in this extreme look. >> It's going fine.

I was always like a slight outside.

I wasn't the best to anything, but I tried everything. >> Was it all boy? >> Yeah. >> And I went school with Ben in the band from the age of eight.

“>> Were you guys best friends or just you ended up having me choice?”

>> Yeah, no, we were. >> It must be so fun to be able to share it with this kid. >> Yeah. >> And now that three of us is close to brotherhood or indeed marriage. >> Yeah, that's right.

>> Yeah, that's right.

>> Because there's more marriage.

Because the only other person in the world who has experienced that is Ben in touch.

>> Yeah, exactly.

“>> We also have to navigate stuff that normally I don't think you navigate with a coworker.”

>> Or a friendship. >> Yeah. >> There's something when you're both that it takes everything up to a different level of intimacy. >> Because these natural things, there's highs and lows. The highs are great to share, but the lows are like no one involved has a clear

head. >> Because everyone's suffering at that moment. >> Yeah, it's not a great. >> You're keenly going through something. >> Yeah, there's no outsider unaffected by the thing.

>> To be objective. >> Which is why when we're making records, I like to work with producers. >> Because somebody brought one of you to self-produce. >> You guys know your way around the protein. >> And you produce things.

>> Yeah, and your own. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And you produce things for other people. But I like having the objective of someone else who hasn't looked at the tickets.

>> Or got burned on a song you love. >> Exactly. >> This is like that other thing we did that we got from them. >> Yeah. >> Exactly.

>> The innovative producer. And then, for us on this new one, prize-vite that we had Aaron Desner, who's known us for 15 years. Or something helped us with the demos for our third record has been a friend of us for a long time. >> Seeing us go through lots. >> Also happens to be in one of my favorite bands of all time in the national.

I said this production career with people I tell us. >> Mm-hm. >> So it's crazy. >> And so to have him come in at this point and be that objective voice. He knows us all really well.

We trust him. He trusts us. >> The dream. >> Still out of stage in your career that I two am at. Or it's like all these kids that we're trying.

We're now all at these award shows, which is bonkers. >> Yeah. >> It's like I look around the going gloves and I'm like, oh, Ben and Melissa, who we run in theaters and no one came. >> You're saying his seat friends that are now producing for Taylor Swift or whatever the thing is.

>> Yeah. >> This is happening. >> It's pretty wild.

And London, when we first started as a band, it was amazing for music people that really inspired us.

Like Laura Marling and know in the well, but also that time it was Adel and Florence. And these amazing artists that have obviously. So we've seen a lot of them go. Adel presented our problem of the year. The Grammys.

“The only reason I think we got anywhere close to winning it was because she wasn't not.”

>> Yeah. >> But for her to give that to us as so sweet or contemporaries. A are some of our biggest inspirations, but also we've seen their success right away through from very early on, which is kind of a unique thing. >> Okay, so your playing drums, when do you start playing not just in your room, but with other

people, what age? >> We play at weddings and bomb answers and birthday parties from the age of like 12 to make pocket money. And then publicly the first time I sang a song, I think, was it for a music exam when I was 16.

I did a version of all along the watch tower by Bob Dylan. >> What was the effect? >> It went down much better than I thought it would. >> Was that the first mini hit? >> Really?

>> Oh shit. Some people are looking at me a little different. Then I played a bit, I didn't really do very much until my year out between high school and college. I lived in Denver.

>> Denver, Colorado. >> Yeah, because I had a US passport, so I could come and work. >> Dual citizenship, soccer coach in Denver, and would play open mics. Lots of clothes, cigarettes. >> Yeah.

>> And would do open mics, and they went all right. And then I went to college, and amongst my cynical British friends, when I dropped out to go and do music, they were like, "Really, mate?" >> Right. >> 'Cause they've been at the open mics.

>> We're not at drop-out stage yet. >> We're not. >> So I had a friend who took me to one side, and was like, "Oh, I'm not sure. This is a great decision." >> Oh, wow.

>> Is he still a friend? >> I hope he bought him a ring to roll, right? >> Exactly. >> Yeah. It was really a college that I started doing, I've mics, and then I quit to go play drums,

because I was a session musician to go play drums for Laura and Marling. And she invited me up to come and sing a song in her on-core. At the end of her show, it was like a hoot and an animo, and that's when her

“manager spotted me and was like, "You should do this."”

>> So how do we assemble mumford instance? 2007? >> Two weeks after that, I said to him, like, "I think it's a band. I don't think it's a solo project." >> Yeah.

>> I've been doing writing, and recording some demos at Ben's house. He lived with his parents, though, and they had an attic with a little studio in that you had to climb through the little copy hole. And he had to get in, carrying fucking equipment up there. >> Yeah, yeah.

>> It was a nightmare. A very hot, no AC, and had been doing some demos, and then inviting anyone I knew who was playing in other bands. We were all playing in other bands at that point to come play. They songs with me, and at times they'd be like 14 of us on stage.

But what we noticed was that at that time when the four of us sang together and played together felt different to when everyone else was in the room. >> So I know how you know Ben, obviously, he's been a friend. >> Since you're a little kid, how do you meet the other two guys? >> Yeah, Winston, I'm at church, and we're like 15.

>> You've known him at that point, too. >> Yeah. >> And then Ted, we met in London when I quit college, and he was a bass player. He showed up with a coolest pair of bass, and let the jack out. I'd have seen him online.

And I could sing and play double bass. There's not this guy's triple threat. >> It's funny how often when I watch Docs on bands. How much of it is that? >> Like so and so walked in, and their hair was awesome.

>> Yeah.

>> He's kind of second year to the vibe.

Then when he happens, it's not the same as that.

He's got this really unusual voice, and he can sing harmony in. >> Did you watch him make it loud? That drumming documentary? >> No. >> Fuck.

>> No, I didn't. >> Oh, it's so great.

Okay, they never mind that.

And then one of the other Docs I want to know if you've watched. >> Oh, did you watch this up? When Doc that was out last year? >> Yeah, I haven't watched that yet. >> Okay.

“>> So what is unbelievable about that band is they met, and I think six weeks later,”

they played that first show we've all seen in Black and White. >> It might be still their best show they ever played. >> I've only inherited other people's views about this documentary, but it seems that they were all totally obsessed with Bonham. >> Yeah.

>> And then it was like Jimmy's band. >> I don't know that I focused on that as much as just, obviously they had all been working a lot. So it's not like they were green in that sense. But the notion that these strangers could have come together and played that show

on six weeks, it's so mind blowing. He's kind of got to believe in magic a tiny bit. >> Oh, I totally believe in magic. I think right, songs is like trying catch fairies and nets. >> Oh.

>> No, Gallagher talks about it like everyone knows songs full from the sky, but I'm magic. And you just have to have your hands out ready to catch them, otherwise fucking Bonham or Chris Martin. [ Laughter ]

>> And I'm just walking around because he sounds a bit. >> Clearly other hands. >> Yeah. Exactly. So I bumped into him in a bar and London a few years ago,

and we just finished a tour. And he was like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm just chilling out. And he's like, the fuck you talking about your songwriter. You got to get to work.

Right, songs. You have no excuse not to write songs as your job. What you're doing. >> Yeah. >> And there's like, yeah, he's right.

Back in writing songs. >> How long before the four of you were playing that it was clicking,

“you were putting songs down that you thought had merit?”

Was that a quick process? >> It was quite quick. I had a collection of songs that I'd written at college, sort of naked on my dorm room floor in the very room. >> Too real.

>> Indulgent? >> Yeah. >> Okay, sure. >> Yeah, yeah. >> Go ahead and put T.S. Eliot to song.

>> Can you be pretentious? >> Yeah, really.

>> Are you never making it?

>> Yeah. >> But had started honing my narcissism well enough. It's not good, I think. And then we started playing a couple shows and then we got asked to support other bands. And that was helpful because it was like, right,

well, we need enough songs to fill that set. So I remember the day I wrote a little line man. I might scuff and kitchen, which was probably a bit rough. But then showed up at the rehearsal studio, like three hours before soundtrack,

and was like, lads, I think I've got another one for the set. And they were like, yeah. Because we only had like five at that point. >> Yeah, what are you expected to play like 35 minutes or something? >> Yeah, like, half an hour.

>> That's six songs. >> Then you fill half an hour with a bit of chat. Sometimes a bit more chat. >> Yeah. >> Isn't it funny too, how much of this stuff?

There's no science to it, but there is, like the infamous Beatles stuff. They're playing in Germany forever. They're just playing. >> They were honing then.

>> Yes. >> I mean, that don't commence. She's my favorite music. >> Go back to Peter. >> Yeah, Peter Jackson.

>> Yeah. >> And it's nine hours, which is shorter than your average day in the studio. >> Okay. >> But watching that documentary, I mean, it's the most beautiful.

“I think you get an idea of some of the hanging around.”

You know, you're watching like Ringo Twiddling. Ringo is always on time.

He's always ready to play.

He's always sticks in hand, waiting for the moment. To carry underrated drummer, he gets a different tone at the drum set to any other drummer in history. And then Jim Keltner, who played on all the Beatles solo records. He's now like 82, I recorded with him a couple years ago.

He is one of the coolest cast of all time. And, and Bob Dylan's drummer, and you know, like, he gets a different kind of tone of the drums to anyone else. And these great drummers, I think, are able to do things. >> And just hit a drum in a way that no one else can.

>> Admittedly, I didn't like the Beatles. >> My mom had positioned it as, this house is a Rolling Stone's house. >> Really? >> When I went, I wanted to hold your hand. We're talking about, I got a girl pregnant.

>> Interesting. >> We're fucking gnarly. >> See, we were in a waces house, not a black house. >> There you go. >> Yeah.

>> Have you come to appreciate Laura's son? >> Yeah, yeah. >> I'm still in the waces guy. >> Yeah, you're right. >> And I'm a son.

>> You can't change that, really. >> I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just a swine. >> It's a swine. >> It's a swine. >> It's a swine.

>> It's a swine. >> It's a swine. >> It's a swine. >> It's a swine. >> It's a swine.

>> Yeah, yeah. >> But that comes from growing up in a house where your parents care. I didn't, so I just like it all. >> They didn't have their identity infused with what bands he is. >> Exactly.

>> There was no identity connected to it. >> So you're free. >> Yeah, you're free, you're free. >> Free. >> Can take it all out.

>> Yeah, I mean Taylor. >> No, but as a kid, what it did? >> Yeah, exactly. Taylor was a little later. >> I'm pop, top 40.

>> Britney. >> Britney. >> Britney. >> Yes. >> Spice girls.

Hands like the big, hands like the number. >> Love, handsome. >> Love, handsome. >> Oh, my God. >> I think I did a couple of that actually.

>> You did. >> That's my first CD. >> Was it my most pure shows by All Saints? >> All Saints. >> As a single.

>> And then the first record I bought myself. I bought two from the CD Exchange on Wimbledon Broadway. I bought, I kind of believe by Miles Davis. Under instruction from my drum teacher because he was like, "You'll play what you listen to.

You got play that." And then for myself, I bought my education alone. >> Amazing. >> That's my first CD. >> I mean, that's advanced.

I was more in the. >> You're in a book. >> But I'm just saying All Saints. TLC.

>> I love TLC.

I loved All Saints, Robin. >> Yeah. >> All of it. >> You have a new one. >> You have a new one.

>> Yeah.

>> But, Monica will be the first to,

“most of her musical tastes came from film and television.”

If she saw something on TV, she heard something. >> A soundtrack. I was like, I want that song. Like, once it was into buying songs like Napster and stuff. >> Like, so what were the shows that led you to?

>> Like, raise anatomy. >> One tree hill. >> I was on a one tree hill. >> Okay, so raise anatomy. >> Oh, see.

>> Yes. >> Obviously. >> So when Gordon State came out to the exchange of life. Yeah, yeah, I can cool. >> I get you.

>> I know you. >> I know you. >> I see you. >> Yeah. >> That's why I chose.

>> I've become cool.

>> But now it's still cool.

>> I was a sponge to all of that. >> The shins. >> Oh, my God. >> Yeah. >> But no, it's great.

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I hate it all but I'm pretending I love it. And I'm just looking for anything with some melodies. So I'm just following. It's a blink 180 like change your life. Well, I'm so much older.

I saw exploited when I was a lawyer. Okay, I was all with my brother. I saw black flag in their trash. Because teenage I went through posts to blind probably I went through like Papa Roach. Okay.

Blink 180. I love Blink 180. Let me be clear. And then I was starting to go off at some 41 when that started. I loved it.

And then I was like that was the end of my. I'm going to get off the drain here. I'm at my stop. Yeah. It's actually interesting now that we're talking about it.

“Because I think that the reason there are clubs is I wanted to be like everybody else.”

You want to conform. Exactly. So I'm picking top 40. I'm picking what's on TRL. You want to be able to talk with your friends about what's top.

I want to be normal. Regular. That's interesting because I get to like 18.

I want to do something.

No one else.

Yeah, you want to be different.

This is our freedom of being white. Right. Interesting. Yeah. Like I might wait.

You guys are nerdy. And I want to be. That's interesting. I'm brown. Please don't notice.

I'm brown. I knew all the same shit you do. Yeah. If you're white. I wonder what.

The music will tell you. You probably still like Taylor Swift. Of course. Wow. That's the great unifying.

Yeah. 10 million tickets. Yeah. Okay. So I want to jump to.

You record. Sing them more. It comes out in 2009. And it's a monster.

“I mean, you get nominated for two Grammys.”

Little white men is enormous. How do you take that on? Which is playshouse. That's the only answer we had. Just keep your head down in playshouse.

Just playshouse. We were probably a bit dismissive of the world's reaction to our music for a long time. Because we were like blinkers on head down. Just playshouse. That's the thing we can understand.

I can't understand how our song is suddenly got big in Australia on the radio. Yeah. I can't get my head around there. But I can get my head around playing a show in Melbourne. And so still now.

I don't look at streaming numbers. I don't look at social responses. I don't look at radio plays. Are you like healthy? You didn't care about money.

I care about money. So much. Yeah. Our song didn't have expendable money. But my parents instilled in a spirit of generosity.

We were taught to tie this kids. Give away 10% of everything you ever get. I mean, the belief system is like it's not ours anyway. Right. It's closest to a sort of native American peer of English or English.

But it was like, pick yourselves as what we can understand. Right. You can see that there's venues are getting bigger. Yeah. And we climbed all the rungs on the ladder.

We didn't skip any, but we only did them all once. And most bands do them 10 times. How are you making peace with the tension of? I'm an outsider. I'm not with you guys.

And this is my art. Oh, no, it's for everyone. Everyone likes it. There's a little bit of tension there. No?

“Well, I think I probably responded to that by driving my negative narrative and finding the negatives.”

In any review, I would read, which I did at the beginning. I'd always read them. I'd pick out the one line. The her the most. And I'd dwell on that.

I knew you didn't really accept me. You're acting like you accepted me. But I have the proof. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Everyone thinks I'm actually a come in a car. Yeah. It's so brutal. Yeah.

It's so much. I mean, we had fun. But I was not present to a lot of the early success of our band. Because I was either in the negative narrative or I was like, let's move on quickly. Because this isn't going to last.

So we have to build for the next thing. You can have this paradox of actively hating parts of it. And then maybe fearful the next one's not going to be as good. You can also still want to keep it, right? Yeah.

I haven't felt this level of a sense of pride in our work. Honestly, ever till this record. It's really freeing. Yes.

And I don't really care if other people like it or not for the first time.

Yeah. I think it's a lot of personal growth and all that boring stuff. But I really don't care what people think. I love it. And I'm excited to play every night.

If people come along for the right, then great. But if not genuinely for the first time, I don't think you'll have my feelings. Yeah. That same extent of like the rawness and nothing. That's the vulnerability of artists.

That's fine. That's fine. Your job is to feel things.

“I think this is cool because we just had staples and on and look homes had this morning.”

A lot of these musicians that we're interviewing of had these moments where you performed at the Grammys. And then the album went up 99%. Yeah. Sales.

There's very few moments that are that make it or break it. I don't think I was aware to that extent what the Grammys could do in terms of moving the car. Yeah. But I was still shedding myself.

I was still very nervous. But like I had that feeling with the first TV appearance we did. Did you love Lanternman? We did like him. And it was like, where's your drama?

I don't know. I think he plays drums, maybe? It does. Maybe that's my guess. But no.

Our first TV appearance was here in LA with Craig Ferguson. Love. And I broke two strings and forgot all the words. Oh. And it was a fucking disaster.

Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. That's what we're buying. That was awful.

And so they were like, "We have to move on." Sorry. I mean, that's quite different. It was us. That's horrible.

I'm so sorry. But was Craig great at helping you? Yeah. He was sweet. No one could really help me in that.

Yeah. And he was good at helping. But no. The Grammys was made fun by the fact that Dylan was so weird. And wonderful.

That first one. We'd rehearsed for two days. We'd done all the camera rehearsals.

We were aware that it was going out to 50 million people or whatever it is.

And we'd play a song. We'd come back behind the curtain. We'd play this place on. And then we were supposed to go on together and play Maggie's farm. So we'd play a cave.

Everybody's going, "We walk behind the curtain. Bop's there." And he goes, "Pray that again." And it was the cave. So I started playing.

We had to start playing. And he was like, "I can sing on that." And we were like, "What?" And he went, "I want to sing on that." And I was saying Maggie's farm.

And that. And we're like, "We'll do what you want because you're fucking buffed in. And you've already played." We just rehearsed there.

We've already played the cave.

“And he wants to change the whole arrangement.”

Right now. I'm not going to be telling you. It's based play. He's the bulb whisperer comes over. It's like, "Come down, bulb."

But you're not supposed to play. Okay. Did you watch the greatest night music? It's about the recording of "We Are The World." No, I don't see that.

No. You'd tell. I don't really watch the music documentaries. I'm learning that. And I get it.

Do you listen to other people's podcasts? No, and I went watch it. Yeah, I'm going to die. But of course I watch music. Yeah, right.

What is cool about the doc? I think you would appreciate. We have everyone. Go do you want. They're all there.

Right? You have Michael Jackson. You've got Holon Oates. You've got fucking Stevie Wonder Bob Dylan. Everyone's there.

So to see them all, it's a really wild thing to observe. Bob can't sing like the other folks.

That's what he does, right?

And he is struggling. And there's a moment where Stevie Wonder who can do everybody. He's a crazy mimic. He says, "You want to sing it like this." And he does Bob Dylan.

And it's on film. And you can't tell it's not Bob Dylan. And he uses his voice and his range to show him how he should do it. And then Bob's like, "Okay." And then he does it.

That's such a cool monster. That's very cool. All right. You're not going to watch it. You hate music at all.

Do you think you don't like him because it's intimidating?

“Or it's just boring because that's what you do.”

That's boring because that's what I did. I got you. Okay. I think unless it's get back. Unless it's the Beatles.

Maybe it's about musicians. Don't really do that. I didn't want to spring see a movie yet. Even though I'm obsessed with Bruce Springsteen. I know.

Star is born. I thought depicted whole life that most accurately have any of them. Although you don't know because you've only seen one or two. Yeah. That is great.

Think of the one I've seen. That's true. You went to Baskin Robbins. You tried one flavor. You know the best flavor of the 31 flavors is vanilla.

That's true. That's true. Okay. Tell me about going to India in 2010. Or don't.

If it's not true. I just didn't really have an audience in India. Yeah. But we went anyway. Got told to go back to our own country at our last show in Kolkata.

Really? Yeah. Which I think was fair. Because given the you know, the racism in England. The other way around.

It's like, yeah, fair enough. We probably earned that historically. But it was amazing. We liked touring in weird ways and doing things that feel scary. We just done this train tour.

That was an hour. Yeah. So India was awesome. It was very fun. I mean, it was very hectic.

It was stupid. Did you have in the back of your mind? Other than the Beatles went there. A little bit. And it was just an adventure.

We'd done a tour on a narrow boat. Oh, full of models. And that was very fun.

“And we were like, that's great to end here and do that.”

Yeah. So the thing I loved about reading about your history is I too. Love when you can take this thing that you do that your job. And you can figure out a way to leverage it into a bunch of other crazy experiences. That kind of happened nothing to do with it.

Because otherwise you can miss it. It can all go by. I've read about this railroad tour. Yeah. You guys had vintage railroad cars.

Yeah. We did one with editor shopping like that. That's zero is an all cremates and show in 2011 or 12 or something. 11. Thank you.

Yeah. And we're like, let's do that again. Now, the train thing is fun for the artists. Yeah. The audience doesn't already get involved in that.

Right. Because you can only fit like 100 people on it. But you can tell me about your car. About your vintage rail cars all linked together. They go around the country.

So the first I went from Oakland down the West Coast across to we ended up in New Orleans. And the second we started in New Orleans and ended in Wellington, Vermont. I'm for us a lot of it is seeing places we wouldn't otherwise see. Yeah. Like I've seen more of this country than most of my friends who live here.

Sure. And I'll argue on a train. You're seeing the backyard of everything. Because now now we're seeing the front road to the. Yeah.

It's amazing. And I like to stay up in the middle of the night. I'm sitting in the front of the bus and watch the world. Go by particularly North America. You just find it fascinating.

Like being stuck in an electrical storm in Kansas. In the middle of the night. Is there any train? I was seeing some tournays. Yeah.

Another like you're staying always really fun.

But was the car itself? Did you have your own car? No. We had our own rim. And was it from the 40s, 50s, 60s?

Did you know? Was it wood panel? Also on was wood panel. Then now it's say 50s. I think it was there like a cocktail.

Like there was there a little more. Yeah. Like the people running the train or an outfits. Oh, how fun. It's fun.

It's fun. So jealous. And then we rehearsed every day because we had these guests come and join us. And so we'd learn their songs on the train on our way to soundtrack. And then when we get there, we play it.

We should do that. We should do a live show. We need a great experience. It would be a net loss. You were about to do it.

It's making money. Yeah. It's not worth it. We had this conversation about managing a couple of people. Look.

We're not going to make any money. You're definitely not going to make any money. For this one, we had a house pattern. We paid everyone the same amount of money. Like a flat fee, including ourselves.

Look. It's an experience. It's like a five-day vacation. Where we're working. Did you take psychedelics on the train?

No, you don't need to. Okay. I would think that would have enhanced it. I went on this trip down the Grand Canyon. With a bunch of people I didn't know.

And we get to the bottom. It's like eight days of rafting and staying on the beach. Unbelievable. And the end of it. We find out they would all been on us.

It's a whole time. I was like, this is the one place in the world. You don't need acid, man.

Exactly.

And those rapids, we're doing the more kayaks. They're pretty dangerous. No better way to drown. Oh, God. You're got to drown.

“You think you're drowning in like Willy Wonka's chocolate, river?”

No, I'm serious. You drink a control freak for that. Okay. Is everyone in the band on the same page for the most part? You won't want to talk about you guys coming up.

You're like tunnel vision head down. Are you all like that? Yeah, we are. Ted, our base player is a bit more chill. We need that.

Yeah. It's better than I like in it on everything. Oh, man. We just said to us like most artists kind of asked to just know where they need to be. When I go to this level of detail.

But we're quite details oriented. We care about it. Yeah. Okay. I need to say though that I will wake came out.

That was enormous. You won the Grammy. Fascinating album the year. Things are fucking crazy. Was it really?

Yeah. That's what I'm told. 600,000 in the first week. That's why. The walkers and in UK.

I think foreigner is also the fascinating album that you're in the UK. You can go anywhere without mumford and sons at this point. I want to go to your solo album, which is 2022 self titled. Yeah. I want to bond with you on this experience, which is.

I have four years on here been acknowledging that I have been blessed. And that was its own hurdle to just say that. And I got quite comfortable being able to say that. That was fine. And now I'm writing a memoir.

And last year, really, the whole year was about. Do I have the balls to write down the details of this?

Because the details were always going to be mine.

I didn't want anyone to be envisioning me. It's weird that that was still some wall between my shame. Interesting. That happened. But I don't need you to know anything that actually happened.

And I bet it took me four months to tell that story. And when I'm writing that, just I cannot help but thinking of. People knowing this about me and how still expose that feels. And I was pretty emotional during the few months. I was having really weird kind of spikes of emotions and moodiness.

“And I would forget that's why I was having that.”

But I finished it and something about it existing there feels like a lot of weight. It's off my shoulders. But for me, there's still the hurdle of like, and also I've not put that out. Yeah, I could. That wasn't going to be my question.

How did you put that out? And I didn't. Right. So I can understand writing cannibal because it's about his sexual abuse. There's details.

Yeah. Dude. Yeah. I was just like, yeah. Fuck.

That sounds pretty intense. But the gap between writing it and then knowing, okay, now I'm going to put it in the world and people will know all this about me. I mean, I was pretty scared. Honestly.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it's pretty detailed. I mean, I played it to a few people who are very helpful. I played it to Elton, John. But it's brandy color.

Elton was like, I've never heard anything like this.

And I'll do anything to help you. If you want to put it out. And brandy had to set exactly the same thing. Like I'm with you. Who's the fucking shocking how many of us.

Yeah. And part of the exhausting process of putting out is hearing how the people's toys. Yes, sure. Because you need to comfort them. Yeah.

Yeah. And it's an absolute privilege. And my general view on it has been all right. I'm going to have boundaries around this. And I say, like, thank you so much for showing that.

I hope you have what you need. Yeah. Because I'm not your guy. I'll be fucked up when it. Like, I'm not going to be your guy on this.

Yeah, I can't. Yeah, I can't. And that wouldn't serve you. Obviously wouldn't serve me. Putting out was straight.

And then the rest of the record is not really about that.

But because that was the first song, it got a lot of attention.

I feel like grateful that I put it out.

“I honestly felt glad I have also been able to move on.”

And I think without it, I wouldn't have come back to the band as energized or as joyful or as free. And I think that's a big part of the freedom that I now feel in the band. It's like, I got that. I moved on. It's out there.

I toured it. It was great. Musically, I'm very proud of it. The whole record. And it helped my songwriting.

And it certainly helped my ability to accept myself. Well, my body keeps betraying me. It was online. Yeah. The body betraying me, putting that out of your body to there.

Is that helping any of that? Yeah. Like I've been on that real journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And part of that was not feeling like a victim, I think.

And being like, I've got control with this. I can drive this train. I'm not just a passenger. And I won't just be a passive. My thing is I can intellectually know how ridiculous the statement is.

But emotionally, I don't know it. In my body, which is I grew up in such a homophobic environment and Detroit in the 80s. You lived all day long and fear that someone might think you were gay. Yeah. And now I've done this thing that does make me gay.

In my mind. And now I have this fucking secret that I know if it were to be revealed on the playground. I'm just fucking dead. I'm a pariah. I know.

Well, intellectually, that's insane at 51 with a family and all these things. But that fear of the whole world going back to elementary is still alive in me.

Just crazy way is shocking to me.

And so what's your process now having written it?

I felt that wave of relief that you're talking about. And then I have fear of people reading it. And then even more, I have the fear of what I'm doing to you right now, which is like, I want to be able to. I don't know if I want to have to talk to you about it.

Yeah. That's not going to happen. You've done baby steps.

“Was this the first time anyone's ever known about that?”

Yeah, yeah. And the second song on the record is about the process of playing my mother the first song. Wow. Well, how should we proceed without this going too heavy? Is the first line of the second song on the record?

Wow, yeah. But we talk about it on here. You are very open. I mean, not with the details, but with that something you've gone through. But I'm in control of it, right?

Like, you're not going, well, why didn't you blank? Or why didn't you tell your mom or why? You've got the types of questions. So yeah, it's just the loss of control of me being able to say exactly how. So while me and you waited three years, what happened to me,

I got really lucky in a sense, which is I was in high school. I've been carrying it for I guess 10 years or whatever. And I was talking with the girl. I went to school to I liked so much. I just a friend.

It's Danielle again. It's not. It's Danielle phone.

I would never risk her thinking I was gay.

But this girl was vulnerable enough to tell me that she had been right the year before. Wow. And I'm kind of sitting there with that really special trust that she just extended to me in my lab. And I just kind of felt myself saying it out loud. Honest to God is stupid.

Because to look at her face and the fact she didn't say, "Oh, so you're gay."

“Oh my god, this whole story I think I'm telling myself might be wrong.”

She doesn't think I'm damaged. I mean, that's certainly my experiences women led me through. Of course. You know, it's so interesting and probably quite common there. As a man, if you allow yourself to be vulnerable enough to a woman,

often you'll find out who can't lead you to the promise land. Yeah. And that's certainly my experience. My wife and brondy and Phoebe bridges. Yes, powerful man.

It's pretty life-cheek. I mean, it's also quite funny playing my mum that's always... Like, how long did take her to put together what the song was? Was it an immediate fur? Yeah.

I'm paying for her. Of course. You have children? Yeah. And just the sense that, like, she's spent on this time not being able to support me in something.

Yeah. Exactly. But fucked up to tell your mother through the song. So I'm like, "You're a new thing." Yeah.

Yeah. That's quite funny. Bless her. She's a legend. That's my parents.

Stay tuned for more armchair expert. If you dare. Why the gap? I mean, obviously you did your soul of him there. But why the seven-year gap?

COVID. Winston left the band. Uh-huh. I'm at a side-of-record. Then we're in the street FTS.

And now, really quick, as last year, March. Yeah. So we got back in together in the studio, like January 20th. In fact, I was on my solo tour. I was playing the rhyme in a Nashville and the boys.

Ted and Ben came out for that show. And I said, "Last week, a song that we sang all the way together.

The first time in a few years.

And it felt magic. Yeah. Just a guitar. And then two and three of us singing together. This is a very special place to us.

And that was the moment where we were like, "I see this." I think, healthily. Everyone had had a bit of a break. A bit of a reset.

“Was there any sense that you would not come back together?”

No, I don't think so. It was just my retirement. But then January 23th, we were here in Los Angeles, actually. We met up the three of us on my house down the road when we had it. And we played a few ideas that had been kicking around.

They turned into a rush, man. But then we felt like we weren't done. While we were mixing, rush, man. Aaron Dessner was next door. Working.

And came in and played a couple things. He'd been working on that didn't have lyrics or melody yet. And we responded to it and started making price fire and that right there. Oh wow. And I think the freeing experience for me of getting solar record, then rush me out,

meant that when we came to sit down to do price fire. We're there in this long-term friend. We were just ready. Well, hands are out, ready to catch the songs. We were in shape.

And the muscles were all working. There were no injuries. Yeah. And we were in like our prime. And that's why we called it price fire.

So we felt like we were just ready. We'd also spend a summer with four hour limbs in Paris, writing songs and hanging out. And it's like a therapist. He was like, "Sit us down."

Certainly me, gave me a lot of pet talks, which was super helpful. So by the time we get to Aaron, we were just in a good spot. And so these songs just poured out of us. Ah. And that the closest to source,

tells the writing and the recording. We've ever done. We'd like right here in the morning and record it in the afternoon and be done. And walk away. There's a very live feel.

The feeling you get as a vocalist for sure. The closer you can record a vocal, to when you wrote it, the better. But on the first record,

We did a demo at Ben's House that I played and recorded it.

His house in his parents' attic. And then when we came to record sign-in more, 18 months later, we couldn't get the same emotion in that focus. We just used the demo. Ah, yes.

On white-blown page. That's on the crashing-outs song. By acting so similar. You've got grab the emotion while it's there. And then when it's gone to catching fairies, man.

Butter actors is not proper. My wife and I, oh, I do that. It's not like you're around. I get it done in the back of the spaceship if you need a media.

“That's how you can really tell when someone can just show up”

and be perfect every time. Acting wise. We call them acting robots. It's like, yeah. I don't know how they're doing it.

Yeah. It's red and annoying, isn't it? It isn't like them. Okay, no. I want to extend the compliment and ask if you feel it.

When we had Seth Roganon and we're talking about the studio. Did you watch a studio? I did. Okay, great. You can see one thing together.

You want to watch a whole lot. That's not a music. Yeah, I don't know. There he is. That's fine.

But what I see is not just an incredible show.

I see the results of an incredibly generous life that every one of these people would have shown up to party in this thing. There's a lot of successful actors that they call it, assemble five other ex-coast artists. Yeah, all right.

So you think his humanity and the way he walks through the world has had a real effect. Yeah, that show is a result of who he is as a student. It's really undisplaying. It's really cool.

And I would argue that price fighter do you feel that at all the fact that you call Chris Stapleton or Harrod that works? I do feel that.

“You know, our band has always loved music”

and being at shows and watching our contemporaries and being inspired by them. We spend a lot of time investing into the community. It's not just so that we can then drop a bit of that as well. Are you friends with the Ava?

I'm really good friends with the Ava guys. There's such inspiration for us. You're bad motherfuckers. If you haven't seen the Ava, it's play. Yeah, they're amazing.

Are you doing anything for them on Monday? They do like this. Yeah, they're not fit still. Yeah, I'm excited. So we've invested a lot into musical relationships.

You know, stayed in touch with people. And then weirdly as a headline, he'd go out and you'd do your shows and you're a bit insulated from the community. Yeah.

Festivals are always fun because you bump into other people and sometimes those are all the things can be cool because you see people you wouldn't otherwise see. But on this record, we've never opened the door.

Our band basically has always been collaborative

and we've never really represented on record. And so on this record, we're like, we want to call in our friends and actually Gracie Abrams has been like the fairy godmother of this record.

She's been behind the scenes with her magic wand. She had the demo of Banger song before I'd written anything on it.

“It was like, you got a fucking write something on that.”

So I text her lyrics as we were going and voice members. What do you think of this? And she was always behind the scenes just cheerleading. Oh, that's awesome.

In a way, like, brandy was from my solar record. Gracie has been for price fighter. And so then we called her up and said, "We sing on badlands." And I thought she was going to just do some harm.

She turned that song into a duo. It's like my favorite solar record is amazing. And the same with Gigi who'd we'd done some shows with Gigi Perez. Hoesie, I would've known for a really long time. Like, I don't need to know you to look up the list and go,

like, oh, yeah, this is a guy who's clearly been benevolent and generous with his peers because they show up. I feel deeply honored by the people who said yes. And Chris, I didn't know. Chris, I just called Col Cool.

Hey, bud. [laughter] I think he's a generational talent. He's like my favorite voice, male voice. In America.

Do you know heaven sent by steel drivers? No. Cannot stop listening to this fucking song. Sense out, interview them. It's my end.

No, I don't know. Action. Heaven sent. How can they still know it? I listen to it probably 40 times the day after.

If I'm not working, I'm listening to that song. It's unreal.

Well, I think he's amazing.

And of course, he completely killed this song. Because I sent him the song. I sent him here. We all fell in the band that he would be perfect on it. Because it's like a kind of cowboy suicide.

Yeah. He's perfect for that. And again, he's a dude who does not need to answer the phone. And doesn't need to show up for people. Yeah.

Does it, like, endlessly? Come that out. And then I test him and said, this is all right. But I'm having this well, but I-- [laughter]

Don't wait for the video. Okay, so you're going on tour and you kind of just nod it at it. You're doing a lot of festivals. Is that by chance? They've been announced.

Oh, okay. Big gaps in that diary that I'm going to stay gaps. But we haven't announced them yet. But Hyde Park on July 4th actually, put in day for you guys. And half of me.

Yeah. [laughter] I bet you're really on Flickson. Yeah. Yeah.

July 4th at Hyde Park is the one that I'm looking forward to the most. Because it's been a decade since you guys played the ten years. And that's like hometown show. It's massive. Yeah.

Two seconds on Nashville. And then I want to hear you sing a few obliges. Yeah. Now that I've ruined your voice. Yeah.

Through hours of chat. [laughter] Nashville. Very special place now. Yeah, really is.

We spent a lot of time there. And we were invited there. When we first went to tell you, I blew grass first of all. I've been Colorado. We knew the Alison Krauss and Robert Plant were on the bill.

We knew that people are all cremates and show would be kicking around. Jerry Douglas, who's the greatest like guitar player of all time. Well, they were a playable time. And we walked in and they all were there and all stoked that we were there.

Ah.

And coming in this cowboy lady.

Oh, lovely. He kids with more Americana instrumentation. They were just amazing. And Jerry became a really amazing friend to our band. We felt invited in and then they invited us to Nashville and they were all around.

And we've spent a lot of time in Nashville. I love it. I've been shocked to be in that town, which is also a creative town. And just here's story after story of how available everyone is for each show. Yeah, Laney Wilson has become a friend of ours.

And I'm just obsessed with her. She's so generous. She's so down. Yeah. We'd buy her on the train tour. She's like, yeah.

Cool. I'd be like something. I've been forgotten that they love the art form. Yeah, a lot of them. I think Chris is like that.

No, a con is there now. And he's like that. Super generous people.

“There's a real sense of community there, which I think still exists.”

And it's cool. One of our closest friends is this young artist Hannah Anderson. She's a musician. She's lived in Portland in an L.A. And from Houston.

And they just went to Nashville a year and a half ago.

And they've just never been happy.

So even if they're not like successful and thriving at every level there. She's like, oh my gosh, I've been here my whole life. I lived in West Hollywood and it drove my chain narrative crazy. He did. Yeah, because I'd look around.

Be like, look, all this amazingly beautiful successful people. Oh, I'm not doing anything. Billboards. You're under us to make the impact of the billboard for 35 feet. He really did.

They have an impact on you. Especially if you have like a competitive spirit or an artistic one. Like a slightly vulnerable. And if you have both. Yeah.

Your fuck. It's really hard. You're competitive where I'm envious, but you're ambitious. Yes. You've just have ambition and see that you're not there.

Is a bad reminder. Yeah. Every time you will count until. Can you walk out of a restaurant and there's paparazzi there. And they just like put their cameras down when you.

Yeah. It's so wild. Mindful. All right, I tell you one of my funniest moments in life.

“The first time I did Letterman, which I was so excited to do.”

He's my hero. Because he for comics is like he's not well. Him and Bill Murray. Those are our gods. So I couldn't be more excited.

I'm in the back of a SUV. And Tom Cruise is also the guest that night.

So he's first and I'm second.

And I pull up to the theater. They've got the whole street shut down. And there are saw horses. So that the crowd doesn't move in. And as my SUV pulls up.

They believe Tom Cruise is about to get out. And this audience. People's like. The cameras are all like. And I step out.

And you just need this collective like literally. Fifteen hundred people like. Save your film. Oh my god. Oh my god.

What a way to walk into this theater. For my dream come true. Yeah. Save your film. [LAUGHTER]

Maybe that should be. That's what I mean. It's your film. So with so much gratitude. You've agreed to sing.

And I cannot wait to see that. So if we may. I try. You're a party. I like you.

Tom Cruise. Yeah. What do you guys think? This is quite weird to think. Feel non-weird at all.

Oh god. That's the goal. Very comfortable. Do you know Mark Ronson. I do.

You guys have a similar vibe. Oh really? I like him. He's a generous spirit. He's a wonderful collaborator.

Yeah, yeah. You know some of those people like Ferrell is like that. And Aaron Desson is like that. They just get joy in seeing other people shine. Ferrell's definitely like that.

He's in his happiest place when he's helping elevate someone up to their true self. It's really cool. It's a cool spirit. Mark's like that too. I had a therapist tell me that as a man, your journey is you try to conquer and try to get yours.

“And then if you're a healthy man, the next phase of your life is to try to give that to as many people as you can.”

And I have entered that phase of my life where it's like you got to not do that. And that's the spirit of generosity rather than spirit of poverty. Yeah. No. I just got to be mine.

I can't give that way. It's like I do better when you do better. Yeah. The scarcity. - Yeah.

- Exactly. - Forged him. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it.

- All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it.

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- All right, let's do it. - All right. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it.

- All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - I can't carry this anymore by myself, but also we can't ever speak of it again. - Well, if that's you diminish, you know, fuck you, I guess.

- All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - Yeah, that's you at 70%.

- Yeah, Taylor was doing that in the top. - You won't make him tell us now. - Yeah, later. - All right, then, okay. - There it is.

- All right, let's do it. - All right, let's do it. - All right. - All right, let's do it. - All right.

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- Yeah, which one did they did? - Oh, they did trussle? - It did a few.

“- As you know, when those two fucking lock spirits,”

like there's something, those two, well they call it blood harmony. - Yeah, right. - There's something real about blood harmony. - It's blood harmony.

- They call it blood harmony. - Yeah, right. - There's something right here. - Oh, this is so special. - Thanks guys.

- Well, Mark, yes, this is a delight. - Thank you so much. - Well, come back. - Yes, please. - Also, I really want to double date maybe.

- Yeah, lovely. - Yeah, lovely. - Okay, great. - I'm going to give you my facts number. - That would be dope, wouldn't it?

- I didn't let it back. - I'm like sharing with his iPad. - I'm not sure about that.

- But the fact is so amazing.

- Say, get a lay-on-line. I'll draw you some cock and balls pictures. - Yeah. - And we'll get this thing going. - All right, be well.

- Thank you guys. (upbeat music) - Stay tuned for The Fat Chak. So you can hear all the facts that were wrong. (upbeat music)

- Hi. - Hi. - It's up. - How are you? - Good, have a headache.

It's going to go away. - It's going to go away. Did you take a-- - No. - Advillers--

- You're the power of thinking. - Why are you getting here? - I know, I will, but should I-- - Yeah, come on.

“- Yeah, I guess if people want to see my pharmacy real--”

- Traveling pharmacy. - Yeah, I'm-- - It's here. (laughing) - This is it.

I was like, in one of those videos, like, "What's in my bag?" - Oh, sure. - Oh, sure. Like, oh, good.

- Yeah, that's great. - What's in my pharmacy? - I'm going to do this. - Um, Advillers-- - Oh.

- Well, you select-- - Exactly. - What-- what won't I? - Oh, just as-- - Oh, this is a hand-shania really light.

(laughing) This one's vulnerable. - Pepto, puppy prolong-- - Yeah. - If I have muscle and/or joint issues

in order I prefer an elite-- - I know. We've done-- - And then-- - And then--

- And then-- - And then-- - And then--

- Never Tylenol for body pain.

- Right. - But if I have a headache-- - I know. - I will love a Tylenol. - I know.

- You know what I have not tried, though? Have you tried? Because it's so old-fashioned. I bet it works the best. You ever fuck with an aspirin--

- No. - Look. aspirin-- - Oh, my God. - Do you know why I got this?

- Why? - And accident? - No. - And the next float on the plane. - Okay.

- I forget why probably a Google or maybe I asked someone and they said take an aspirin. I think maybe for the sweat-- Like, make sure my heart didn't explode on the plane. - Did you take an aspirin?

- I'm sure. I took everything they told me to take. So yeah, I've got some aspirin in here for the plane. - Someone should correct me if I'm wrong. But my understanding of the difference between all these--

aspirin-- - Actually, things are blood. - Yeah, it does.

“That's why, because that's why on planes,”

it's good for instead of clotting. - Yeah, so we can come back closer. - You have your blood moving through a constricted area. And you can either attack the blood side, aspirin, or the constriction side, which is the other options.

- That's right. - Why can't you take both as my-- - No. - Oh, why?

- Just you're always going to take both.

- Yeah, one's good to his better. - I have two kinds of day. I have a leave date, ding, ding, ding, a leave. And I have their tech date. - Ah, wow.

- So I just have a lot of stuff. - You've really got to go in on in there. - I do. - Do you need that box, too? How do you get rid of that box?

- No, I like it. - Don't you know-- - I don't need that. - I'm not carrying one of those. - Yeah.

- They're very helpful. - They're very helpful. - Well, it was a lot of good free ads for all those companies. - I know.

- It's true. Can you hear? Oh, there's like not much left, but that's okay. - There's enough to get it. - That's probably enough.

- Still. - I'm taking three. - I'm taking them all once. - Mm-hmm.

- God, you had never been a good drug addict.

Good as sucked up in a drug addict. (laughing) - So I never did. I only do things I'm good at. - My character in chips is very much how I

as Chumolum swam skill. - All right. - All up is disgusting.

“I remember the first time I had to swallow a pill.”

- You remember the first time? - Yeah. - Because it was like, I couldn't do it. And my parents were trying to help me. - You currently look 15.

I'm dead. - Really? - Yeah. - 'Cause my hair's up. - I guess.

- I was probably nine or ten. I lived in my-- - Okay, you've made it all the way to nine before you took a pill. Oh, we didn't have those in my day.

- Oh, really? - No. - I wasn't taking Adville, I guess. I was taking Chumolum. Those flints don't invite him

in the standing thing from last week. - Uh-huh. - I was taking those. And they worked, they kept me healthy. But then I had to take some sort of pill,

probably an antibiotic or something. And in my head, it was this big. You know, enormous. - Well, relative to your head, it might have been. - True.

Anyway, my parents were trying to help me and then they were getting frustrated, obviously, because they probably couldn't do it. - Sure. - And you needed to take it.

- I had to take it.

“I don't, I think, eventually, we probably”

cut it up into like teeny tiny pieces. - Yeah. - Made it dust of it. - Turned it into a milkshake. - Yeah.

- Yeah, we should have done that. - Oh, I know. - Mortar Pistol. - Yeah. Could have done that.

Anyway, so that was a hard day for me. - I'm sorry that happened. I had wanted last week, I forgot to bring it up. But I had attended a concert that I wanted to talk about that was quite special.

- Okay, let's hear about it. - You know, I give, I attack social media so much, but I need to also acknowledge. I have discovered so many interesting things via Instagram. - Okay.

- One of them is Alfredo Rodriguez, who is a Cuban pianist. He makes these so exciting me songs he does. He'll do like thriller, but he puts it through the Latin conversion.

- Yes. - And it just tackled and he did star wars. It was like what it would sound like if it had been written in Cuba. - Yeah. - And he's, in insane piano player,

and he's on stage with just a percussionist, who he's been making music with for like 15 years. And these two are like, they're sharing a brain. They're like the A bit brothers. - Yeah.

- And this percussionist is, only using his hands, but he is making so much sound. He's got the bond goes. He's got everything he could imagine.

And his story, which was so great, was he was living in Cuba and he got invited to this fancy jazz festival in Switzerland. - Okay. - And he went there and there was like all these legends.

They're like George Benson and all these different incredible.

So he plays piano on stage. And Quincy Jones is in the audience. He goes back to Cuba. Quincy Jones comes home and Quincy Jones calls his manager and he said, "I just saw the best pianist of this generation."

I have to work with him.

He's got to figure out how I can work with him. So this management team spends the next few months trying to find him. He's in Cuba 18 years ago. - Yeah.

- Not the easy way. - They start this process of trying to get him to be able to come record. He ends up having to go to Mexico in defect and come over the border.

- And he then starts working with Quincy Jones. - Oh, that's so cool. - None stopped us three albums with Quincy Jones. They become like, you know, mentoring and tea. It's so beautiful.

- I love that. - He's now a citizen. He lives in Miami. He's got a family. It's just a wonderful story.

- I love that.

- And I've never seen someone play the piano

with this kind of speed and possat. I mean, it's kind of mind-bending to watch someone play like that. - That's fine. - So I encourage everyone if you could see Alfredo Rodriguez. I know that they're having a jazz festival in Miami right now.

- I think. - Okay.

“- And I think John Buttece is also playing a jazz festival.”

- Oh, you guys go. - I want to go so bad, but I was just there. And the damn flight. I really still have my complaints about the length of the flight. - Okay.

- It's too long. - Okay. - It's a three-day commitment to see anything. - Okay. - So yeah, check him out.

- Yeah, that's awesome. We also went to another, I guess we're already now. 'Cause you went to a play at the Atoplay. - Oh, we did. We went to a theater production musical.

- Three months later, that Kristen was in. - Yeah. - It was great. - It was so great.

It was impossibly good given the fact that those people

had come together a couple of weeks before. - To do rehearsals and stuff. - Start from scratch. - It was so, so funny and sweet and bright. - Life for me.

- I loved it. I loved it. And it was extra fun for me. - Because. - It was a lot of worlds colliding for me.

- Okay. - Obviously, Kristen. And then to a very wonderful people who wrote the play, are you CBP? - Oh, you knew them.

- Yes. - And... - Oh, they were terrific.

“That's why they written this incredible thing.”

But they, as performers, were fantastic. - Oh, my goodness. - Yes. And one of my very good friends, who I did improv with, we run an improv team together.

Zeke was in it as well. - Which one was he? - She played the flight attendant, the co-pilot. - Oh, okay, wonderful. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I met him.

The tall gentleman. - He's fantastic. And he was so good in it. And it was so fun because I hadn't seen him in so long. And it's one of those really fun things.

We're like, you know, in this world, like you, especially in the comedy world, you have these people and these teams, and you're around them not stop, and they're your family.

- Yeah. - They're making things together, and it's like such a beautiful time. And then you're life, sometimes, your life goes into another direction as mine did.

And I don't see any of those people anymore. And it was so like, it made me feel so happy to see him up there. - Warm and fuzzy. - Maybe warm and fuzzy.

When we were talking after the show, and he said rightly, he was like, I feel like that team was, he's like, I just have such strong memories of practicing at your house.

- Mm-hmm. - In my apartment. It was like right before we all sort of became adult. - So we were adults. - Yeah. - But like, I had lots of memories.

- In your life. - I started taking off right after that. So it was kind of like the last phase of innocence. - Okay, now I want to take this moment

“to discuss something that I think was potentially awkward.”

- Oh, sure. - That we haven't debriefed on. - Oh, okay. - And this likely was all from my own perspective, and I imagined all this.

- Okay.

- But here's what happened.

We're watching this play. Three of the characters are gamers. They're young boys in their gamers. - So funny. - And they're matching outfits

and they're in a gaming troupe and whatever. Mind you, I've not seen the play. I have no idea. I've seen it for the very first time. But these three boys start dancing and singing,

and it's so adorable. I just have this moment where I'm certain this is going to be making you smile so much. - Oh. - I'm thinking like, she must love these boys right now.

- I did. And so I turn around and when you were with her, our whole pot. - Yeah. - And so I turn around and I look at you directly

to see if, like, I'm right. Like, are you, are you just to be smiling, you're at your watching these boys, being expressive and dancing. - Yeah, I did love it.

- Yeah. - But it's very obvious, I turn around and I look at you, and then you look at me and you're just like, I'm sure you're like, was you, do you remember this moment?

- No. - Oh, my God. - It's not at all. - Well, then I see, like, I see Molly and Eric,

Then they've seen me turn around

and like, block eyes with you.

And then I turn back around. You weren't smiling ear to ear, so I'm like, oh, she's not as tickled

“by these boys as I was thinking, she was like,”

"You are, you just weren't showing it." - Oh. - That's not the point, don't even worry. That has nothing to do with where I'm going with the store. - Okay.

- So I made this big show of turning around, and everyone was behind me. So they just saw me turn around and like, block eyes with you. And then the song takes off right after that moment.

And the whole song is about them loving double-dees and the princess with big titties. And the whole song becomes about titties and double-dees. And then I started panicking thinking, "Is everyone just see that when I turn around

and stare at Monica?" They think I've already seen this. - Oh my god, you're saying your heart. - No one thought that. - I don't think.

- You can see the math of that, no? - I can't. - Like, hey Monica, check this out. And then the whole song, right after I do that,

turns into a whole song of double-dees.

- Well, that is something you would do. - Well, I don't think I would. - You literally said double-dees last week on the fact check. - Because you had what ADHD. What was the thing?

- I remember you said it. - I didn't say that. I just said there was double-dee in the acronym. - No. - It was the math.

- Medicine, right? - Oh, is it?

“- The medicine you were taking in the math?”

- The two doses, double-dee. - Yes. - Is that what it was? - Maybe. And then you said, aren't you?

Are you conflating it? Yeah, you made a reference to my boobs. You do this. We do this. So, I don't know.

- Well, anyways, I felt really pervy all of a sudden. I guess, let's say this. If I turned around like, "Oh, Monica, look. You're about to sing about big boobs. That's not me."

- Right. - Okay. I'm pervy, whatever the line is. That's not me. I'm not turning around like, "Oh, Monica, they're about to sing about boobs.

That's crazy." - You don't do that noise, but-- - But that was what I was afraid the vibe all the sudden was. I was like, "Oh, my God, do they think that's me?" - I don't think that's that.

- But I was just turning around to see like, "Oh, my God. I bet she loves these cute boys. - I do. But then they immediately were letting him rip him up boobs. And I'm like, "Oh, boy, they think--"

- I don't think-- - Monica! - Yeah. I don't think anyone thought that. Is that why you kept looking at your kids too?

Because you were like trying to like combat it? Like, I'm not a perv, I'm here with my sweet children. - Of course not. I was looking at my kids to see how excited they were. Their mom was so cute.

- Yeah. - Yeah, I know. - It's really cute. - They had friends with them. - Yeah.

- The girls. - Yeah. - I was just trying to imagine that if I was 12, and I took Erin and my dad was like, to make it one for one.

If my dad was doing backflips on motorcycles. Like, they're all into musical theater. And their mom is crushing it on stage. And I was like, "I wonder if they're feeling pride for their mom." - Oh, God, I hope so.

- I hope so. Yeah.

“That's what I was trying to check in on.”

- Yeah. - I love it. - Yeah. - She was on the crew. - She was on the crew.

- She was all stressed out. - She was, she worked so hard. Shout out to Dean Money. She did costumes. She was an usher.

She filled in for some of the cast members when they weren't there. She was a PA and called everyone to set. She worked at least 45 hours last week on that play. - She said that she gave actors notes. - She saw everything the rehearsal.

And then she would film the whole show on her iPad. And then come home after the show. She's been at the theater at that point for eight hours I did. - Right. - Watch the entire show all over again and take notes.

- Wow. - And she had of her 20 or 30 notes over the course of the five shows. 10 of a more legit and got implemented. - That's good. - Yeah.

I don't think the mics are on for the boys when they say this line. It's a funnier line in rehearsals. It's not landing here. They don't think the mics aren't. And they weren't.

- Oh, we're... - Well, good for her. I love that. She's an industrial gal. - Oh, I was so proud of her. - And she...

- I'd come up and proud of you. - I waited. You know, I requested her as my usher. - Uh-huh. - I'd wait.

- 'Cause she was a lot. - She had a lot to do. - Yeah. - And yeah, it was very, very, very cute. And hopefully they do more.

I hope they do more. And I hope more people can see it because it was very cute. - Me too. - And it was sweet and funny. - Yeah.

- And to remind people, musical theater, not my faith. Not your faith, not my faith. - Not my faith, but it was great.

- But it was great. - It was great. It was so entertaining. - Yeah.

- And of course, seeing Kristen sing as always.

- Yeah, she's so good. - Yeah, she's so good. - You know what I was thinking of. I had so many waves of happiness for her, which was like, A, she looked 12 years old.

- Well, part of the character, she was wearing a wig with bangs, and she does look so young. - She looks so young, but her spirit was like, she was on a stage plane.

- Yeah, she's having the time. - She's like, she could not do that ever again. She could just act in movies and get bored a lot and act in TV shows.

She's doing this thing for free.

- Yeah, that's good.

- I'm watching how happy it makes her.

And I was like, oh, she did it. She has held on to being 12. Like, she has protected this part of herself that's from childhood and still getting to do it. - Yeah, they're here.

- It's so pure. - Yeah, that's beautiful. - So I had that round of happiness for, and then I was looking around. And there were just so many people

that had come that are friends of hers. - Mm-hmm. - And people she's worked with. - Yeah. - And I was like, look at this group of people that love her.

- Oh, it's great. - Oh, I was so happy for her. - Yeah, it was beautiful. - Yeah. - Well, great show.

Three months later, check it out if you can if it comes to the city. (upbeat music) - Stay tuned for more armchair experts if you dare.

(upbeat music) - I fell down yesterday. - That's a big tumble. - Who the hell is a woman? - She's been in 12.

- Yeah.

“Who the fuck movie much closer to work with up your danger?”

- Yeah, I... - Explain it to me because when you explain it to me, it's felt like absent of a banana peel what you described couldn't have happened. - I don't know what's happening.

It's a downhill. I'm in these shoes, loafers, for people who aren't watching. And my front foot just goes straight out. Slips and just goes straight out.

And it's also kind of slow. Like I know it's happening. - I now know what's going on. - Yeah, you were going downhill steep enough that you're putting your front foot out.

- Yeah, my front foot out. - It's the opposite of walking it in essence. You're lowering yourself down the hill. - Exactly. - And so you put one foot out and put all your weight on it

and it lost traction. And then you hit the fucking deck. That now makes sense. - I get it. - I was underestimating the decline.

It might have to do with the slippery bottom. Is there a slippery, does it look slippery? - Sure, it's not a great shoe, but I think had you been just walking forward? - Yeah.

“- You were to like spun out as you tried to accelerate”

off your back. So I able to spun out. But you're landing with all your weight to do accelerate. And so if you lose that footing.

- Yeah. - Oh, you go. - Yeah, but it was like slow enough that I knew I was falling. - We got bored in the middle.

- So why am I falling? Why? Why? Why? And by then, I scraped my knee, like a little kid and broke my jeans. - You ripped it on your jeans.

- I ripped it on my jeans and I had a teeny bit of blood. A scrape. - It was a scrape. - I still, that part still a mystery to me.

So I understand the physics of putting your weight down that slips out. Or I guess maybe then the knee that didn't slip is on that roof. - Yeah.

- Okay, so then you went right down on your knee. - Yes. - And I just fell-- - They got you only way five pounds. Then I got a shattered my patella to your pants. - Yeah. I felt like such a child.

It was really--

“And you know how I am with embarrassment.”

- Yeah. - I, of course, you know, I pop up so fast and I'm looking around to make sure nobody's seen this. - And kind of-- - Can you laugh?

You always have to laugh.

You're even if no one's there. You laugh? - Yeah. - Like, I-- - That was so fun. - That was really funny.

And I'm fine, I'm fine. - Yeah. - And, but really on the inside tears are bubbling up. - Out of embarrassment. - Yeah.

- And be like, how am I this age? And I'm a child still. - Like vulnerable to fall. - Yeah, so vulnerable. - Yeah.

- I hated it. - Well, I saw you in the driveway and you were like, I fell. And I was like, okay, well, that's not a warp. Then I saw that your knee was torn.

And then I did, I felt bad for you. - Well, I'm so funny. - This is the difference. Okay, this is the difference between mothers and fathers. First, I walked straight into the house and Anna and Kristen are there doing some designs.

And I walked straight in, I walked up and I said, I fell down. And I said, I fell down and I scraped my knee. Like a little five-year-old. And Kristen says, oh no!

You know, she immediately is like, oh no! And she was like, well, what are those jeans? She liked my jeans. - Yeah.

- And she was attracted for a second.

But I make sure the loss of the jeans. - Yeah. - But I was like, they ripped. - Yeah. She was like, well, that's okay.

And then she got out the tight, stained stick. And she was helping my pants. And that was all very nurturing. And then I walked around aimlessly for a little bit. And then I ran it together yourself.

- Yeah. - And then I ran into you coming out of the gym. And you were like, don't go up in my club house. - Yeah. - And then I was like, I fell.

- Yeah. - And then you kind of laughed.

Then you said, oh, your pants are ripped.

Oh, you did fall.

And then I was like lying or something.

- No, just a fall. - I understand. - There are bad fall. - There's so many things.

“- There's bad falls and there's inconsequential falls.”

And you were kind of peppy when you were telling me. I was like, was he gonna fall off her roof? - No, no, no. It actually wasn't inconsequential fall. It just felt like it.

I just felt so childish. Sometimes I fall. I fall in. I don't know as you take a fall, but it's an adult fall. - Right.

- This one was not. - This is a silly fall. - This is a silly childish fall. And I felt like a kid and I had to tell my parents that I bought that.

- No, my parents. - My parents. - You didn't call your folks afterwards. - My mom would be like, "Is this what you're going to get." - Yeah, if I can know, did you clean it?

Make sure you cleaned it? - Yeah. I asked if you tore the skin.

- Yeah, you said, "Is it bleeding?"

Yesterday was a weird day in the atmosphere. - Okay. - Because I fell. And then on a fell, too, later. - Really?

- She fell over, like, Mona or something. And same situation, like, tore her knee. - She, yes, she hurt her knee. - Wow. - And then we were walking later.

And she got hooped on by a bird. - Whoa. - Yeah. - Yikes. - It was yikes.

And Mona started to eat a condom. Me too. - I've been pooped on and I hate it. - And I didn't want to make, like, to, of course, I was like, "Oh, no!"

- Do you have your time stack? - But I don't.

“- I'm not giving the tidesstick for now.”

- She'll really, she'll just keep it. - Oh, no, keep it. You'll want to use it later. Yeah, you need paper towel. - You know, it was, she need paper towel or cloth.

Or it really was, like, I said, "Do you have another shirt?" Like, for me, I'm like, "You throw that shirt on the garbage." - That shirt's done. - Yeah.

- But she just cleaned it in the bathroom. - Yeah. - But I, you know, there's ways to handle things in life and I'm often impressed by people. - Okay.

- Because I was, like, in my head, I was like, - It would have ruined your day. - This is disgusting. Like, this, it, to me, I was like, "Oh, my God, this is disgusting.

This is horrible. It looked really disgusting." - Yeah. - And it was on our shoulder. And it was a white shirt.

- The fuck, it's brown at first, right? Like, it turns brown, but it comes out brown. - Yeah. - It's green. It was diarrhea.

- They only diarrhea. - I know. - They don't have solid boobs. - So, I, - Yes, they're eating cigarette butts and stuff. - Oh, no.

- Yeah. Think about what they're eating. And so, yeah, I was like,

“"Well, I tried to put a positive spin on it."”

I was like, "Oh, no." "Well, you know, they do say that's good luck." - That's right. - And I think they do. - They do.

- Okay, yeah. - What else are they going to say? - Exactly. She said, "Or bad luck." I said, "No, they don't say that."

They say it's good luck. - It's funny as it's clearly objectively bad luck. You get shit on. - Yeah, yeah.

It's never good luck to get shit on.

But we say so. - Well, yeah, positive spins. So, anyway, but I just knew if it was me, I would have, it would have ruined my, I was like, "I fell in this happened."

- Yeah. - What kind of day is this? - This hurt my feelings. - Yeah. - My feelings.

- I'm saying that. But she was just like, "Oh, like, she was just a little annoyed by it." She didn't let it get her. - She grew up in Venezuela, you know? She has a different beginning.

You're right. - Yeah. - And Mona, then was trying to eat a condom on the street. And I was like, "We got, it was happening." - Where were you guys at?

- Venice? - No, right here. - Okay. - Fuck, there was a used condom on the ground. - Yeah.

There were some tents that had popped up. We're probably gone by today. - Oh, I'm shocked. They're using safe socks. That's incredible.

- That's true. - Yeah, I guess we should get happy. - That's true. - Speaking of health. - Okay.

Health update. - I'm a little worried, and I don't ever get worried. - Not about my health, not about my health. - Tell me. - I make a lot of jokes about smoking and stuff.

- Sure. - I don't like smoking, it's coming back. - No, it's coming back. - Definitely back. - I know.

- I know, you gotta be kidding. - I was thinking about how it's so predictable. We suffer from the absence of problems. So like, polio. Like, for anyone who grew up in the 30s and 40s,

you saw tons of kids in wheelchairs. - Yeah. - And with crutches and huge deformities. So when they came out with a vaccine for polio, people were like, yes, a hundred percent.

We were like, absolutely. But then it got eradicated. - Exactly. - And now you have knuckleheads that are like, no, I'm not gonna get a polio back.

So it's like, because you haven't seen it. - I know, you don't know how to. - You don't want to fucking see it. - Exactly. - Same with measles.

- I think what's unfortunate right now is like,

We were going up, people were dying of cancer.

You're seeing people fucking, you know? - I know. - And now that it's curbed a bit, I don't think people realize like, - How bad is it?

- Can you get lung cancer, man? - Yeah, and you will. - Yeah, I mean, yeah. - If you're a literary figure, - I like Lehigh.

- Yeah. - But it's not one of those like, roll the dice. Like, if you're smoking enough, you're getting it.

- Yes, I like drinking. - Exactly. - You can't God. (laughs)

“- Sorry, they just wish people would choose.”

I'm pro-neciting. Pick another delivery device. - Oh, I guess. - Ding ding ding, that's going to be a fact. - Okay.

I get one, you're neciting. Let's get a neciting, but that's not a delivery device. - And not in vaping, too. Don't do that, you third.

I'm glad you said that, because you're a smoker. - What? - What? - The cool one, too.

(laughs) - And I, you know,

notoriously, I've never smoked a cigarette.

So I feel a little like, I can't say that. - You're not in a position. - But actually, I kind of am in a position. I'm like, guys,

it's actually not that hard to just not do it. It's not. - Yeah, I do. I think we're as people like, they smoked for sure,

but they did, but they would never post a picture of themselves smoking. - Yeah, no. - And now, every I see it, so many posts with people buying a jar.

- No, people, it's back. Like, people think it's cool. - Yeah. - I get it. I get it.

I get it. - I get it. - It looks cool. I will be, it looks cool. - Yeah, sexy.

- On TV. - Until you kiss someone, you get to taste the cigarette. - That's what I'm like. Guys, that's my campaign.

- Oh, that's my campaign. - Oh, that's a good thing. - It's just called kissing. - Kissing. - Okay, okay.

- Yeah. - Picking. - Picking. - Always pick kissing. - No, you know what we need.

- Yeah. - And you guys are all coughing and stuff and making those noises and it's not cute.

“- Can you even imagine when I sounded like when I smoked?”

- Oh. - No. - I would have to talk in question for you. - I didn't want to ask. - Cause you can hear me coughing from your house.

- Yeah. - I thought that was inevitable. - I mean, I hope one day I do. - You will. - Sure.

- Cause I'm on the yard like I was changing all the wheels on the razor. - Oh. - There and I had a couple moments to clear my throat. And I was like, if water is wind is open, I bet she heard that. - Yeah.

- No, I haven't. But I do wonder. When you're acting. - Yeah. - For a long periods of time.

- Yeah. - Like, you have a handle on not doing that. - For three minutes. - Yeah. - Like, right when they call cut you clear.

- Well, I clear before I start. - Okay. - And then, yeah, likely, in between. - Okay. - I get going a little bit.

- Cause sometimes I'm sitting here, you know? And I'm like, it probably depends on if I'm like, PMSing or something. - Yeah, sure. - And just how you feel, I mean, general probably.

(laughing) - And I'm like, - Yeah. - Why? Like, I know when he's acting, he doesn't do this.

- Yeah, and if our show was three minutes long,

you would never experience it.

- I guess that's what I'm asking. - Yeah. - Okay. And like, in, you know, how old are men? - We have respiratory things.

- Yeah. And you have, like, digestion. Also, like, all of you older men are starting. - Yeah. - We're burping a lot.

Okay. - We're burping through your talking. - Oh, sure. - And it's like, common thing that men are doing. - Yeah.

- And I-- - Cause we don't cry. We're keeping it. - Yeah. - It's so horrible.

- And it's like, just, okay, yeah, just cry. - You know, just cry. - That's a good-- I have a great story. Funny enough.

- Okay. Well, anyway, I just-- Sometimes when you're burping through your talks,

“and when you're, um, throat clearing, I think, like,”

is he doing this to me? Like, is this about me? Because-- - Oh. - I mean, you know, that's if I'm really angry.

- Oh, okay. - Um, because I know-- I know he's not onset with-- I don't know if we're on the same. Um, with onset, and he's like burping through his talking.

He's not. (laughs) - I know he's not. - I mean, you're ignoring so many factors. It's crazy.

(laughs) Our duration together. The fact that, like, I research for two and a half hours, and then I quickly eat so that I don't have-- - Oh.

- I don't have to eat for the next three hours. - We're recording. - Food power. So it's like, I leave myself six minutes to eat my full calories for the first half of the day.

So like, I pound that oatmeal. And then I come in here and I'm dealing with that for the first 10 minutes. - I guess I didn't really think about the food. That is interesting.

- Yeah, you see me right before every time right before we eat. I have pushed off eating right to the moment before we go.

I'm always finishing my own meal right before we start.

- Well, I would say just don't eat. But that's not a good solution.

Then I didn't eat today, and my stomach was growling

during the interview, and I did.

I was getting so self-conscious. - And you had it. - And I had it. (laughs) - So it's not a bad idea.

“- You're mad about my throat clearing just today.”

(laughs) Listen, it's not a good solution. - Okay. - Go ahead, keep burping. - All right.

- It's fine. - Burping for our day in coffee. - Just do what you need to do. - I'm doing the best I can do. - I know.

- I will say this. I have recently, and I just hate this observation, which is, it's considerably worse when I eat cheese. - Yeah. - And I fucking eat--

- The burping is-- - No. - Oh. - I don't think my burping is as big of a deal as you do, or at least I'm not concerned about it. - I don't think you're noticing it.

- Okay. - My coffee is very disruptive to everyone in the house. - Okay.

- You can hear it throughout the house.

You can't hear if I burped to myself in my bathroom. - Yeah. It's just when we're on video, you know. - Yeah. (laughs)

- So I have sadly-- - Cut out cheese? - Well, I big knowledge. Oh, yeah, if I eat pizza, it's I'm a mess the next day with my chest.

- Right. - So I have been trying to not eat cheese, and I'm like, guys-- - What is a life without cheese? - Really?

What are we doing this? - Oh, can you just cough? I mean, everyone's used to it. - I mean, I'm aiming higher for myself, but I don't enjoy coughing.

I hate having stuff in my lungs. I hate it. - I understand, but do you-- - Do you like it more than you love cheese? - I think more and more I'm circling

the idea of perhaps, (beep) - That's very easy. - You keep adding things to quit. - I've just heard about my throat clearing from you.

- No, it's not the throat clearing. - You're currently on the burping. Okay, this is all new.

“That's how you've been comply about this year.”

- I promise it's been a thing I've been not wanting to tell you. - Great, but for how many months? - Like, a long time. - Okay, this video, since video. I never noticed it.

I never noticed it before, but it's--

- I'm pretty good at keeping it in audible. You never hear me, Bob. - You never hear it. Well, no, if you do, but not in the-- (laughing)

- No, not in, we're interviewing, but you often burp loudly, just for fun, but not during the interview at all. It's very, it's inaudible. But you can see it, and so I am always cutting around it.

- Yeah. - And that can get complex. You know, I'm just telling you, but I want you to eat cheese. - Wow, I don't think I can. Unless I want to deal with--

- Coffee. - Like, how long can I be coughing before I get cancer? I mean, the whole point of getting lung cancer is because you're putting all this shit in your lungs, and then you're irritating them.

You're coughing a lot, and then you have a ton of cell division, and then you have mutation. And that's where you get it. So I'm like, why? Just because I'm not putting that shit in there.

I'm certainly still doing all the disruptive-- I'm sure I'm damaging my lungs getting the stuff out. And then I don't want to uptick in my odds of getting lung cancer. So I got a quitting cheese. - Okay.

- See you when I'm dead. - I've had to knock this whole episode.

“Okay, now what's the story you wanted to tell?”

- Oh, it's just on that crime. So we had a very, very, very sweet meeting last night. - Aw. - About a decade. - A bit of a memory of our friend.

- Yeah. - And we don't ever have women at the meeting. It's a stag meeting. - Uh-huh. And a woman joined.

And the woman was awesome. Because I don't know how all of you got through your shares without crying. But I'm going to be crying through my entire share. And I'm gonna cry for all of you.

And we're like, well, thank you. Someone leaves too. - Oh, yeah. That's nice. - That was really great.

- Oh, man, sad. Really sad. Okay, let's do some facts. - Okay. - On Marcus.

- Yes, God, that's song. I can't believe we got to hear it. It was so good. - He blasted us right through the bookshelf. - I loved it.

I really loved it. - Yeah. - The whole album. - I loved him. - I loved him too.

- Yes. - Great. Very charming. - I hadn't given him a fair shake when they were really popular.

Because I was surrounded by some people that I was judgemental of who were obsessed with it. And it prevented me from giving him a fair shake. And I really regret that. - Yeah.

- And I fell in love with him. - And I'm for instance. - And well, they're so good. - Yeah. - They're objectively great.

- Yes. Huge, huge band. - So I didn't even deserve to get that performance we got, but I am now a lifetime fan. - Yeah.

- Okay. Did Juno temple go to the Dale School or B Dales or whatever? - Yes. - Yes.

- Yes. - She attended well. She attended an more primary school. Boarded at King's College. And later completed her A levels at E Dale School.

Or B Dales. - For the days. - So he nailed that. Okay. Zing ding ding.

Nicotine is not bad for you. It comes up in the episode. There's, you know, yes. Nicotine is not the part that gives you cancer.

- Yep.

- We all know that.

Well, maybe we don't all know that.

“But it is not the part that gives you cancer.”

But it can have some negative side effects. Also has some positive side effects. Benefits increase levels of alertness, euphoria and relaxation and proof concentration and memory due to increased activity of the,

- Ooh. - I will found this. - No. Two neurotransmitters. - Hmm.

- Reduced anxiety. Due to the increased levels of beta endorphin, which reduces anxiety. Um, okay, so those are good things. It says it can cause bad dreams in nightmares.

A possible blood restriction, irregular and disturbed sleep. A dizziness and lightheadedness. Uh, that's not for everyone, obviously. Um, there's some, there can be some gastrointestinal, Bing, Bing, Bing, um.

[laughs] Diarrhea. - Don't have it. - Heart. [laughs]

- You have it. - No, I haven't had it since I quit gluten. I don't ever have very much. - Sometimes have it. - I've had diarrhea probably.

Honestly, without having the flu. - Right. - I've had it probably three times or four times in the last two years. - Okay.

- I mean, it totally, you know this update. - I've shared this. - I had it five days a week when I, - Right.

- And now I never have it.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Heartburn. Peptic ulcers, indigestion. - None of these for me.

- Dry mouth, nausea and vomiting. That you don't have that. Side effects on the heart. Uh, increased blood pressure in large-day order. Um, altered heart rate and rhythm.

Those are potentials. It's person to person for that. Those things and what you already are dealing with, what you already have. Um, but it's good for you.

It's working great.

“And for him, I think he likes it as well.”

- Oh, does Letterman play the drums? Does not play drums professionally, but he has a well-known enthusiast who has played on air and famously admired questioned and tried to buy drum kits from his musical guests.

He held drum week on the late show

and as appeared in videos,

playing with professional drummers like Anton Fick. Okay. Now, fight got a great answer for why these musicians blow into the water bottle with the straw. - Oh, great. Yeah, he was doing that.

That was for somebody that seemed that. - But I saw it on the Taylor doc. And I was like, what is that? What is she doing? Singers blow into a water bottle with the straw.

A technique called straw phonation or SOVT. Semi occluded vocal tract exercise. To warm up, rehabilitate and strengthen their voices by creating back pressure that reduces vocal strain. This gentle therapeutic exercise helps relax

the larynx improves breathing and massages the vocal cords to reduce fatigue. - I thought it was like adding humidity to it. I was way off. - Maybe you could try it before an interview.

- Does he apply to a lot? - Well, let's just see what it does. I mean, maybe you'll feel like so maybe it'll fix your coffee. - I'm blessed in that I have yet to really feel any vocal fatigue. Even though we do have days where we'll talk for six hours straight.

- Yeah. - But I have yet to. - Too far so good. - I'll lose my voice when I'm with Aaron, like screaming a lot, but other than that, I'm pretty good.

- Let's probably cause you're not breathing through your diaphragm. - Probably do a lot of stuff wrong. Just screaming for two lungs. - That's great. - Yeah, your child was screaming in the backyard.

- Oh my God. - And you texted me, can you hear them? - Yes. - But I could. - Yeah.

- And then you-- - You scream me with joy. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, not screaming with tears. - We're having a lot of fun back there.

- Yeah, she has a friend. They'd like to do some screaming together. - And you said you could relate? - Yeah. - We did scream, but I can relate.

I can relate a lot, yeah. Watching her and her friend together remind me a lot of Aaron and I. Watching her and her friend together, which they're such a cute duo. - They are. - So cute.

- Remind me that I used to be so hyper when I was like that age with my friend. - Yeah. - And that was like a quality assigned to me. I was hyper. And I can't relate to that girl anymore.

- Right, you're not hyper at all. - I know.

“- You should drive your grandma crazy, right?”

- Yeah, I would lick her arm. - Yeah. - In both controls. - Yeah. - I would just be crazy, bounce around.

- Wow. - I know. But I grew out of that. But it's cute to see. - I know it's shocking to me, they're not exhausted after they've been together for two days.

But they're not. - It's like you're like, you enter. - Yeah, you enter. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The thing that I relate to is that they are the rest of the world has melted ...

- I know.

- It has fallen away completely.

“- And I'm so happy for her for that feeling.”

There's nothing quite like when you have your little soul mate.

And there's nothing else that's relevant.

- It's the best. - It is the best. - I know. They're so happy. They're so happy.

They have each other. (laughing) - My ears sometimes. - Well, well, you know. - Again, cost benefit.

- All right, love you. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)

Transcript

>> Welcome, welcome, welcome.

>> I had to detox in the whole night.

>> And so it's a risk.

She was a couple years ahead of her year, however.

>> Because there's more marriage.

Then when he happens, it's not the same as that.

>> I love TLC.

I want to do something.

We've already played the cave.

Exactly.

Just crazy way is shocking to me.

We did a demo at Ben's House that I played and recorded it.

Ah.

- All right, let's do it.

- Never Tylenol for body pain.

I have to work with him.

Then they've seen me turn around

She's doing this thing for free.

Then you said, oh, your pants are ripped.

We were going up, people were dying of cancer.

Then I didn't eat today, and my stomach was growling

- Yep.

The thing that I relate to is that they are the rest of the world has melted ...

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