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Nate Bargatze

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Nate Bargatze (The Breadwinner, Hello World, Your Friend) is a standup comedian, writer, and actor. Nate joins the Armchair Expert to discuss growing up with a father who was a preacher/clown/teacher/...

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- Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert.

I'm Zach Shepherd.

I'm joined by Monica Padman.

- Hi. - And today we celebrate Nate Bargazzi. - Yeah, you made it Italian. - I did. It sounds so Italian, but he does not present as a Italian.

- It's not. - Nate Bargazzi is a stand-up comedian and an actor. His credits include your friend Nate Bargazzi. Hello world, the greatest average American, the Tennessee kid.

His stand-up is so damn funny. - Yeah. - It's so funny. - World agrees. He's a big deal.

- I'm the last technologist, but by gosh. And he has a new movie out on May 29th called The Bread Winner, which is just a bullseye of his comedic brand. If you like his stand-up, which I know everyone does, you're gonna love The Bread Winner.

Please enjoy Nate Bargazzi. - This episode of Armchair Expert is presented by Apple TV, the new US home of Formula One. Starting March 7th, you can watch complete all-axis live coverage of every Grand Prix, including practice, qualifying, and sprints all in one place. Watch every race live, only on Apple TV.

You know, I have a bunch of stuff this week, because they all come to everything. Are you touring right now? Yeah. Where are you at? I'm in the middle of it.

It only ended in August. How many dates? Probably 150 years. Almost every other day. Almost.

Yeah. How are you maintaining your energy? It's like I would read these things about let know. He's like hosting the Tonight Show, and then somehow doing 80 dates a year.

β€œLike how the fuck is this man doing all those things?”

I have pretty good energy, where I live, we got a crazy storm, so I was into it. I was like five trees in my yard. You know where I'm out Julia? Where you are at Waterman? Yes.

I heard you are out there. You're out there full time yet? I wish. No. All summer, Thanksgiving, Christmas, any moment we have three days were there.

We love it so much. Yeah. Our friend Hannah was staying at the house, because she knew she was gonna lose her power. Where she was at? Can we say your house?

Great. And she's just anymore. Like the streets down the streets down. So you were in Nashville this morning? So I was in Toledo, Saturday.

So I was going to Knoxville, Tennessee, Knoxville got canceled because of the weather. So I was going to go home, but the weather got kind of just too crazy of a, we got stuck and so then we went to Vegas. They got full power and they got full power right now. We did the same thing.

We did not lose power, but like my brother, he's got his power back. So then I got my buddy Brian, his family's all power. So they're coming over today. There's a ring that I love, and then there was yesterday my wife goes, I told Benny and his three roommates from Ole Miss.

They could come up and stay at the house because they lost power.

Like first of all, when did they stay in plan?

There's seven hours. Yeah.

β€œAnd then three dudes that are in college at my new house?”

No way. Yeah, yeah. When I said you bet, and then luckily they got out there and then they jettisoned the plan. On icy roads like that. It's not the part of your heart.

Yeah. And I looked up the weather. It was like, bro, it's 43 NMR. I think the ice issue is going to be gone. Yeah.

Yeah. Whoever Ole Miss is. Oxford, Mississippi. Yeah. That's got to be further south amount.

Juliet, we would agree. Much further. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. What if that was a skill you had where we'd set a college and you knew exactly the town

it was in? I bet you do because two were touring and college football. You could name a college and I could make it. Who's your team? Dennis.

I'm a Vanderbilt fan. Okay. I did not go to Vanderbilt. His mother worked in the box office though. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So grew up a diehard Vanderbilt fan. Now, where do you live currently in Nashville? Brentwood.

I'm from Old Hitcree, which is the side of your own. Yeah. You went K through four there. Yeah. Now, I was public to ninth grade.

I went to Donaldson Christian my senior year. My dad was a teacher. And so he was able to teach there and then we're able to afford to go there. Yeah. Is that a history teacher there?

Yep.

β€œIs that a bummer or fun to have your dad teaching in your high school?”

You know, I never had him as a teacher because he was teaching different grade.

I played basketball. I got cut all four years from my basketball team. But the first year my dad was the assistant coach of the basketball team. That's good. He gave you the news.

I think I got the news soon out. But you had no reason on it. Yeah. I started a decision. Yeah.

Part of the decision. Oh, I was cut to I tried out with my best friend in seventh grade. And he only tried because he wasn't hanging out in the end. And I didn't make the team and he did. Oh, so then he just quit.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was the even thing a long honor of now that he quit. They'll call me. And I don't think I was even second runner up for the cuts. He still couldn't get you in.

He sure said I'll only play if you bring.

Yeah.

β€œThere's brothers in the NFL that are that way, right?”

One brother.

I watched this incredible real sports for one brother.

He's missing a hand or something. Do you know this story? Yeah. And he went to college. He was basically like, I'll play here.

But you got to take my brother too. And then the brothers fucking great. And he plays with one hand. And I showed my little girls when they were like four and six. The 60 minute segment are real sports.

I'm like, look at these two. That's you too. That's how you be a sibling. Oh, I don't know. We'll lose a hand.

That's right. The win. One of you. Not if win. And we don't know.

I'm better than you. How athletic and great you have to be. To just not have a hand. No. It's unimaginable.

It's hard enough with two hands. You and I had everything. We had all of our appendages and we couldn't make the team. And for him to get that high glide by us. To go for John daily.

Well, he's a local legend in Mount Julia. Yes. He was a guy that was so talented. But drink is warm up. Would be three diet cokes and a couple cigarettes.

And then he would just go out. And then he won like a major championship. He tells the story himself quite often. He loves the story that he invited Tiger at the end of a match to the bar to have some post match drinks. And Tiger said if I was his talent.

So did you. I could go have drinks. Yes. But I got to go practice. And since nursing.

He tells that story and he likes it. Well, yeah. It's a compliment. It is. Yeah.

Now, if you had done what Tiger did, you had the talent. The god knows. If you didn't go to the 19th hole. I mean, he had a great time. Clearly.

Two majors. I mean, he's got a tour boss. We got a tour boss. That's doing great. I watched some documentary.

It was like about drug lords and Netflix. And there was a woman from Compton in the 80s. She came to biggest drug or whatever. But she was also growing up. Could have been an Olympic sprinter.

You got person like that. You're just being a great. Yeah. So it just matters. How do you apply it?

And so where do you send it? And her path. What is the other way? And then she's like, all right. Well, I'll just be the best.

I think she just talks now. She has a podcast. She could. She could. She could.

But like motivational speaking.

β€œI thought that's what happened toward the end.”

But again, now I'm starting to make up. That's all right. That's all right. But it led us to an incredible segue for me. So your father, I think very interestingly,

was a clown and a magician and a motivational speaker. Yes. What did his work life look like when you were a kid? First of all, I know you guys are really close. You adore your dad.

Yeah. Yeah. What did dad's work life look like growing up? He was a magician.

I always said, like, my daughter, your kids.

None of this seems out of the ordinary for them. That's all they've ever seen. So he was that kind of aspect. He always had a regular drive. He was a teacher.

And then he would do magic and stuff. Well, even let's go back. He was going to be a preacher, yeah. Yes. He had a very rough upbringing.

My family was in Tennessee. Then his mom, my grandmother ran away when she was like 17 to Louisville. So my parents are both from Louisville, Kentucky. And then when my dad was 18, he ran away back to Nashville. And then lived with our cousin Ronnie Bargazzi,

who coached at Vanderbilt II. He was like a coach and broadcaster. So the reason we kind of fell in love with Vanderbilt. And then Ronnie, like kind of got him straight. He's a Christian saved him.

I mean, was he drinking and found her in? Yeah, I think he was just lost. You know, my dad had a Christmas where he woke up. All the kids had a present but him. And some stuff like that.

So he was just kind of lost. So your dad was kind of the black sheep. Very much. So he ran away. Then moved home and really straightened up.

And they were really strict with them,

which was something he's never had before.

No one ever cared where he was. Now they cared where he was. Right. They were like, "You better be home at this time." And my mom and my dad had been together since 7th grade.

Oh. 7th grade and they're still together. Yep. My goodness. So did she come to?

Yeah, they got married. She came. And then I was born 79. And when I was five, my dad went to college. Trevecha graduated and started teaching and still do a magic.

And all that kind of stuff. I mean, to me, all that's of show business, too. Like, I've interviewed several people that were going to be preachers. Or Jack White was going to the seminary, but they went and let him bring his amplifiers. So he didn't go.

It's so interesting how many people that desire that you feel like you have a communication skill or something. Yeah, just like, I'm going to head that way. You feel drawn to stand in front of people and try to convey something. Exactly.

β€œI think no internet even for me when you've started.”

You don't see anyone succeeding. So the high school I was going to go to is a pretty rough high school. So a lot of parents would try to switch. I went to a very blue collar Christian school. It wasn't a high, high end place, but kids had money.

You know, you would see, I graduated in '97. But they had like a 1997 Mustang in Cameroon. And then I had like a 1985 Mazda 626.

Nick name on blue.

Great guess, Miles. Great guess, Miles. Yeah. So when I look back now, he's all think about whatever drive or whatever wonder that he could have had.

I wonder if I would have had that if I would have just stayed where I was in the public schools. Because as public schools, no one has a nice car. You don't see the teachers. You have no idea that someone could have a million dollars. Yeah.

Like that couldn't even fathom into your brain. It's not part of reality. Yes. And when you would see celebrities, that's like seeing a king when you're coming up

β€œand you're in a public school and you think, well, what could I be?”

You could go be a full-time caddy. I had a very rich golf course. That's a good bracket actually. Yes. I don't know how you would ever know.

They, someone has done that as a career. Yes.

Or even Valley Parker because your parents never fucking Valade.

You even know about Valade. None of it. A restaurant that you could go work out where you're full-time at a five-star restaurant. That's a career. I agree.

I always get asked to interviews. When did you know you wanted to be an actor? I hear people say all the time. Like, when I was 9 a.m. I don't know how I would have thought that into Troy.

I never met one. Never saw one. You watched TV and you're like, what are they doing? I wanted to do that. But they weren't there from another.

Really? Yeah. They're not even in my world. I think now with social media, you see behind the scenes and you see their personal life. So maybe you're like, oh, that guy does sound like that.

You don't bury an entry. You can be a producer of content and posted. We just had the sex for non-talking about this. The internet phase one was all humans could be publishers. Before that, you had to get through the gatekeepers at New York Times to share your thoughts

in writing with anyone. Everyone became a publisher. For better and worse. Yeah. And then now we're in a phase where everyone's a producer or has the capacity to be growing

in New York Times.

I would never even heard of New York Times.

I was like, it's like, yeah. You would hear about some kids make it out of that and they are very curious. I wrote it was a lot smaller. That's how we can sum it all up.

β€œI think it was like, I knew my town and then the town my dad lived in when I'd seen”

him on the weekends and then my grandparents died. Yeah. That was that. It was very rural. It can be rural.

But it's not the state. Yeah. You didn't go downtown when I grew up. And that was the national downtown was pretty rough. And so no one went down there.

But dad. So he did other stuff, obviously. But he did perform. He still did magic. When you look back, he was trying to get a career.

But he had a family. I think he had a chance to move to Vegas. But he didn't want to with raising us. And so he stayed in Nashville. And I don't know if I remember exactly how much him going out trying to do this stuff.

My mom did great because my mom had to stay home with us. And dad would go pop off. We had a really big Christmas one year. What age? 12 perfect.

And now I know because it's gigs. My dad just got a lot of Christmas gigs. Yeah. So he was kind of like we had a little extra money. What was the big present you got?

I've got a mental breakdown. Oh, really? Yeah. A red tell boa. Yeah, I was in the state.

Oh, wow. You were a weird kid. Yeah.

β€œRight now and then I like hang with a kid.”

And he invited me to do his bedroom. And there was a snake. Yeah. It was a certain type of child. Yeah.

That was a amateur her intelligent. Yeah. I always like stakes. As I've got an older, I'm not going to go grab him.

Go all that little way. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you felt brave? Yeah.

Like it was a way to exercise bravery in some sense. Would this stake? Yeah. Is there scariest fuck? I don't know if I thought that that deep really?

Are you most people are afraid of snakes? It's kind of like an innate human fear.

My dad would just always go grab him and show him.

He was from the country and Kentucky. He'd handle anything. Unsupervised. Yeah. He saw something.

He was always just show us. We lived in Del Rio, Texas when I was five. My dad moved down there to teach at a Episcopal school. We only lived there and then we moved back.

But I remember going church. And we saw a snake in the middle of the road. So I'm going five. And it was doing like the cartoon way where the middle of it would be up. Yeah.

That's how he was moving. Then my dad got out and caught it. He was like, oh, I'm going to show it. We're that family. Yeah.

I'm going to go show it. The kids are going to love it. Right. Right. So then we're driving.

And then my dad's got the snake. It's like over his shoulder. But I'm like right behind him. And this snake is furious. But then we get there to the camp lays it down.

All the kids get around it. It's very exciting. That's the family ethos. We kind of are a lot of games. Like you're making up games.

And you're like, all right. Let's play this. And that kind of circusy circusy. And there's three of you. There's three of you.

There's three of us. And what order are you in that? On the oldest. And then my brother Derek and then my sister Abigail. Okay.

And you were by all accounts. A pretty big fuck up. You barely graduated. A school. And then you go over to the community college.

You do a year there, right. And then you end up going to Western Kentucky for a year. Just one semester. It was all remedial classes at Ball State. And so it was just to try to even get you where you could go to a college.

Yeah. And you have the best joke I heard of this morning. I was watching one of your videos.

They call it community college because they have a sense you're going to be s...

in the community. Yeah. Like, show you the ropes of the community. I don't know. Old Joe Brass.

Stay with me, college, too. I was like, all of my classes were outside. Because they were like, you guys will be working outside. One day. But it's just acclimated to the outdoors.

Yeah. They just knew. They had all my jobs. Work outside before comedy. I went and actually got a degree at a community college.

And transferred. So, no. I think about trying to go get just a community college. I don't need the full. I like community college.

Just some reason. Me, too. Good. It's attainable. They're very democratizing.

β€œI'll say that's what's really great about our country is most countries that have”

a really good university system. You'd test in early or you don't go. Whereas our country, you could start at any moment at a community college. Then transfer somewhere really good. Yeah.

That's an incredible part of our.

Society. Trade schools. Going to go. My last serious shove is a water meter reader. You would drive right now.

This is the comedians. And when I look back, I can see it. I would go up and do some shows in my dad when I was a kid. Not a ton, but pop up. I'm around it.

Yeah. And you liked. And I liked it. I like the comedy aspect. I like making people laugh.

The magic part of it. I don't know. I mean, it's a lot of work. I mean, I could see who my dad does magic. I mean, he's kind of doing it all day at home.

And so I liked the making people laugh. Was he happy? Because I do feel like the idea of a magician or a clown even a standup. I think we're all like, oh, they're funny. They're happy.

But more and more people we talked to. I'm like, oh, wow. Those people are almost carrying the most weight and sadness. Yeah. And I've decided to channel it.

Yeah. I mean, I would think he was happy.

β€œBut I'm sure there's a mix of both of that.”

When you're up there on the show, it's so fun. And I just know this for personal experience. When you're up there, it's like the best. And when you come off, it's like reality kind of set back in. Yeah.

Yeah. You have ultimate control for this finite amount of time. And then you enter back into the real world where you have virtually no control over anything. It can be a little bit disjointed. You can be celebrated.

Yes. Yes. I mean, I walk out in front of Arena's every night. It's this applause, this big, big thing. And then it kind of gets back to normal.

Okay. So I do have one question about the reading the meters. So Snoopy by nature. Did you enjoy having full permission to just be like walking on the people's properties and taking a little peek about how people live?

So when we did it, the meters are always in the yard in front.

And so you would get a crowbar and it was like a mini manhole. And so you would lift it up. You just go to the top and you just type in what they're doing. Did anyone ever try to grease you? Come out and be like man, type in bubble.

We're struggling. Let me throw you 20 bucks. Yeah. I don't know. They would try to throw you money.

But they would, you know, it's like, no, I'm going to pay just give me whatever. And my buddy, Michael, and I started coming with. He's still works there. Yeah. I wonder if he's talking with my meaner.

He could be. We can find out. I want to say this out loud. I am so grateful for the water department in Mount Juliet. Because we had this big issue with the pool.

The auto fill flooded for a few days. So I did this crazy water bill. And we call him or like, I get it on the water bill. But the sewer fee. It didn't go into the sewer went into the lake.

Yeah. And they're like, okay, cool. Like if I made that call in LA, I would have never got anyone on the phone ever that could have made any decision. I mean, I'm like, suck a dick in my mouth.

If they were like, okay, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I was very grateful for it. Yeah. I'll let him know.

And I'll find out if Michael read your water. I mean, you might have been the one. It was like, what the fuck happened here. How about just have Michael pop up your house? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think some selfies. Yeah, yeah. He still works. He told me recently.

β€œI think he had someone that was upset with them.”

And said, you know, neighbor gets used to work here. And I'm going to tell Nate how you're doing. Not knowing that he was a one friend. Yeah, he started.

He was like, all right. He gets to tell him. I like to think that I have that much pool still. That water coming. I go, Miss Jill.

You're going to go for a little bit. All right. I'm going to take a look at the gas. They need his egg in the brain. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. So yeah, you and Michael move up to Chicago to start comedy. You try second city. Second city.

I did it very brief. And why wasn't that a match for you? I knew I was going to be clean. And so I could tell you did improv. I can't control where they're going to take you.

And I don't only can you not control. You're obligated to join them. Yes. So if he says, my condom fell off. Guess what?

You're a good. Yeah. Yeah. So I can make it a curse in it. I'm going to be in a predictive.

He's like, he's right. Yeah. And when you start to, they all go there. Yeah. So everything is going to be dark out.

It's the easiest route to say. Yeah. So I pretty quickly was like, yeah. This is not going to match with what I want to go do. And I already wanted to do stand up.

Michael wanted to try a second city.

It was almost like, I just needed someone to go like, Hey, I'll try some different. You want to go? Yeah. You know, like, yes.

That's what you need.

That's all you need it.

Yeah.

I need an area to try to join that basketball team with me.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just something. Yeah. Someone to kind of come in.

Like, you really want to do it. But you're so scared to say you want to go do it. And I love how much you talk about this. I think it would be very comforting for all the people that are trying comedy. You're really honest about the fact that you had gone to the gym broth.

Yeah, gym broth. Yeah. Went to comedy college. And I think a lot of comedians are too cool for that or would turn up their nose at that. And you're like, for me, I needed some starter stuff between that and open mic.

Yeah. It's just a comedy class that he does. I mean, he still doesn't. It's just you're meeting people that are starting. We're all pretty nervous.

Yeah. And we're all scared of what's going to happen. There's a comic. I remember he's still the very funny comic John Roy. And he was just one star search the year I started.

So he came in and talked to us. And so you're like, this is nuts, dude. Like, this dude just one is two out of three. And he's a real comic. And then you would go to open mics and you could grab a guy from that class.

Let's do it together. Let's do it together. Let's do it together. And then so you slowly start. It's kind of like grounding.

Yeah. I'm going to be even darker, which is it's so comforting to see. And then to see minimally some people are worse than you. It's like that sample. Yeah.

β€œI think that's why punk bands are so encouraging.”

She's going, you're like, yeah, I think I might be able to plan to ban him. The bars low. Yeah. Everybody's trying it and everybody's doing it. You just got to get where you're comfortable to go try stuff.

And like kind of pushed into direction. It's practice. You have to go. Yeah, I paid. It is getting over that fear every time you get up.

Exactly. I remember I wanted to get a call every Wednesday and be like, the building burnt. Yeah. I can't do it.

And I'm like, oh man. So I could be like, I wanted to do it. You want that. All you're looking for is something.

So you could be like, even if you never did it.

You're like, I tried every time. Yeah. That's the alleviate the self-legulation of not trying. Yeah. We just interviewed Anderson Pack.

You know that musician. He's incredible. Yeah. And he just directed his first movie. And his son was in.

And he's like up until a week before the movie. I'm just like praying. My changes as mine. It doesn't want to do it. It's like a boy.

Exactly. Exactly. The line works is like, how can I still have on record. I did everything I could. But then I didn't have to do it.

It didn't have to do it. It's so weird. You do a show. And you're like, oh my god. It's the best thing ever.

And then the next show. You just hope. This gets canceled. Your car gets blocked in.

β€œI remember my car got blocked in before.”

And I was like, I can't man. I'm so sorry. Yeah. Making. I was so happy.

It's so wild. Yeah.

And that's the thing that you got to get over.

Because some people are like, I can't wait. I know. But are they? Well, I got like six. We know that he Murphy.

Like, there are a handful. And we're like, step back. Motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah.

There are those people. They're very excited. And they can just jump right in. And then a lot or like, who do I think I am trying to. Yeah.

The confidence. And I'm going to say that you are uniquely a the persona you end up carving out for yourself. That works so beautifully. He's not a high energy rapid fire thing.

So that a works best at an open mic. You have limited time. You got a crush immediately. You're going to be clean. You had additional challenges.

I would argue. Yeah. Why do we decide? And oh, four. I guess to move to New York.

The documentary comedian was sign filled. Believe it's on Netflix. It's it's. Sign filled. I got done with the show.

And then taped a special. And then was going to build a new hour. He's building a new hour of material. And so it showed him going through the New York comedy scene.

β€œIf you want to know anything about sin of comedy,”

it's still the best one to watch. Anybody a prey around my age or class of starting or really being in the comedy that moved to New York is very much because of comedian. I think it was a mad doc right where he says, when I go on stage at this point,

I'm going to get four free minutes. Yeah. They're going to just be so excited. I'm there. But then reality is going to take over.

That's the beauty of comedy. When set Jack Nicholson, they're going to be like for four minutes. They're clapping. And then they're like, all right.

Yeah. Yeah. What do you really got? Tell you. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's as objective as it gets. And in New York, you just dive into it.

And you're just obsessed. You started as a barker at Boston comedy. That's Boston comic ups. That was what it was called in New York. And I moved there.

No four. Yeah. So you're standing out there hanging over the comment to a brand new one. At that club, yeah. Oh, no kidding.

So you're out there on the street begging people to come in and give this comment. You got flyers. So you're standing on the corner. And you're like, hey, we got a great comment show. And I started.

If you ever saw Pete Holmes had a show on HBO about his comedy crashing. I started with Pete. But yeah. You would stand out. Dustin Chaffin, a comic buddy of mine.

And we were kind of together during all this time. And he still comes in the out on the road. And he would run a show at Boston Comic Cup. It wasn't a normal. It would start at like eight during the week.

And it would run to like two a.m.

Okay.

A lot of comedy. Yeah.

So there wasn't really set show time.

β€œYou're just kind of trying to get people in.”

Have a couple of drinks. You'd be out in the corner. And you're like, yeah, you got a great guy. And then you would get him to walk in. And they could walk in.

And they'd be like, all right. And then I performed for one guy once. You have two people. Then you have four for a parent. You said.

Oh, yeah. That was a joke. That wasn't South Dakota. That was on the road. That was on the road.

There's a parent in the room. Did it talk? Yeah. Great. It was heckling you.

It did. It's loud. Screens. It's hard to time. You know.

You don't know when they're coming. You're right. Yeah. Yeah.

That was in South Dakota.

And that indoor pool. And. It's a human in there. Yeah. You're staying in that hotel.

Your whole world just in this thing. Yeah. And this two shows. So there's a parent in the back. And you're like.

Why? Why do you have to be in here? And the guy was like, he likes to show. Yeah. What?

All right. You're just like getting paid. Yeah. Shocking that alcoholism tracks high. I mean, you're just stuck in some shit.

A whole hotel for three days. I mean, come on. Yeah. You're trying to do your show. Parents.

Oh, my God. Wow. They need to do the second show. The parents not there. And so I go, where's the parent.

He goes, we has his own room. And you go, why don't you put him in there. Yeah. I thought like the parent lived in that room. Sure.

Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. He goes. He goes.

Yeah. Now, how did you socially get along with all the other comedians? Because I'll say the improv sketch scene is lovely. It's akin to Broadway people.

Like everyone's insanely supportive. I got along instantly with everyone. But when I did stand up, I felt like that vibe was trickier for me to navigate. And you're from the south and you were clean. How did that whole aspect?

I think it's kind of like school. You just found your group that you're kind of going to be with. Where they might group that I was the closest to were the dirtiest comedians. Big J. Oaksen, Luis Chegoma, Dan Soder. Dan Soder, like the dirtiest.

That always makes sense by the way.

Yeah. Because you're not doing the same thing. You're no threat in some sense. Yes. They're playing the fucking trumpet and you're playing stand up.

That kind of makes sense. I would open for them. The shows I would do a lot coming up. They were uncensored and they were adverts. As you was super sexy at the time when I was in New York.

That's when Burr started. Burr was a big one for me because I watched Burr kind of become Burr. And so he was just doing spots.

β€œI remember when I was painting out Flyers one time and I go,”

"Hey, we got a show and it's Bill Burr and I'm like, I'm so sorry." And he was doing his first letterment. So we would know as a club. But it's not like people knew him. And then the opening of the rant happened

where he just roast Philadelphia. I don't know if you ever seen it. No, it's amazing. She go look. So it's open and Anthony was a radio show.

And so they had comics. And then they do a live show. And they're doing this live show in Philadelphia. They're just booing. Every comic.

They booed. Bob Saga. Tracing more. And I booed everybody. And so then Burr went up.

It was on YouTube. It was kind of right when we're even in a video could be uploaded. And all this kind of stuff. And so Burr goes up and just starts tearing into this crowd. Well, they love it.

And so I mean, just trash. Oh, my God. Oh, I must see it. One man versus Philadelphia. So that was a big, big thing where it was funny.

We would go watch Bill Burr at Carolines. Because Burr was the comic we all were like, "Can we go see Burr? Can we go see Burr?" Yeah. Luis the game was kind of right above Burr.

So he was like a little bit older at the time. So Burr was like the younger Max next. Something I learned to from Burr.

β€œIs I remember right after that filled everything.”

He would do a show. And they would start going like, "I'm from DC. I'm from Texas. Start trash."

And they wanted that. And he wanted to get roast. They wanted to get roast. They wanted to get roast. And he's like, no.

Because I got an act. And it was like a learning moment to go like, "Oh, yeah. You don't give them what they are." He's been his whole life.

So the rest of your life. You have to go to towns. Also, they come out with more work. You have. Everywhere you go, you've got to learn everything about.

If you're whole, yeah. Retina is like, and you're in Skokiel andoi. I don't know how much stuff you're going to be able to dig up. You didn't need a teen. Colour was constant making toilet bull jokes.

Yeah. And then you're also encouraging that your audience is going to yell out. And they're going to lead you. You're not going to lead them. No.

And they're going to be just screaming. And then it's not a fun... That's the thing sometimes with like the crowdwork comics. Unless you're like a phenom, like Matt Rye for some of these other guys. Trevor Walls, Nate Jackson's another one.

We're these guys are really, really good. Ian Bag. When you go down that route, if you're not going to become the best at it. Yeah. You're going to invite a lot of problems.

Yes. Yes. You better be very skilled. Yes.

It's not easy to do.

And it's not consistent.

β€œAnd then you also end up getting some jokes.”

I mean, if y'all are married and you're like, Oh, interracial couple of married. I'm going to have 10. I'm about 10 of them. Yeah. And then you're like, Oh, you have a kid.

You divorced. You have this. You're going to end up having stuff. Yeah. You have a routine in essence.

That is under the veil of improv. Yes. Yeah, but it's a bag of tricks. So there's even cheats in improv. They have them.

Oh, there's cheats in there. She's not. She's we used to do in York. You performed for a small audience. It's like, because you've done this in a cab.

Yeah. That was like, everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Universal.

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β€œI remember just thinking, "Here's a little lesson that you learn where you're like, "No, I think we're all saved."”

I think we've all agreed that we can all say that. Even just the idea that he's like, "Are you kidding me?" You stole? Yeah, yeah. It's time to, like, when you're seeing bird do his thing and it's crushing and all these people are crushing, are you like,

"Should I try to do something a little dirty or should I try?" My mind just didn't go that route of writing that kind of way.

I never wanted to make someone feel bad in the crowd.

I just didn't like it. It would make me so uncomfortable to do that. So I was always making fun of myself. So I think it kind of kept me in that realm. I had a joke on YouTube, though, and it was one that I didn't like that I put up.

I remember there was a bunch of projects being murdered in New York when we were there. And so then it was a joke kind of about that kind of situation. I mean, young comic, it works very much in those rooms. Yes. And then I did it.

Maybe out here. I didn't put it up on YouTube, but it got put up on YouTube.

Yes.

And then I remember this is kind of early on my space.

β€œAnd so then actually a lady that isn't that line of work,”

the message me something and then I wrote back and said, look, I'm so sorry. I didn't know it was going to go up. I wouldn't do that joke again. I know why I did it. I know why I came up with it, but I was like, I'm so sorry.

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β€œThe only thing I regret with it was, I wish I would have went out to the audience and”

talked to him beforehand just to go like, hey, I was really doing this. You know, that was a week that was Charlie Kirk. Yeah, yeah. That was a heavy, heavy, heavy week. Yeah, I think I wish I came out and like warmed everyone.

John Oliver, Seth Rogan did a good job. John Oliver was great with it. Where he was like, if Nate and he would go short to cost me more money. She likes something to be. He's like bought into it.

Yeah, I understand that some of the actors when it sees big moments. It's serious. You're threading the needle because all these shows have to be entertaining. I'm like couch to watch. And the kids were watching it.

Get out of clock. I know I love fun aspect to it.

Like how are you going over and yeah, I was never going to let that.

I mean, they did go under. But I think they were going. It was a cool experience. I would like to do it again and just go back, but you'll do it everyone do. Yeah.

I thought it was a fun experience. It's really fun. I brought a couple of chairs. I mentioned every country you want to mention. You don't believe in dinosaurs.

Yeah. Tell them right here. You're safe here. It is frustrating though because you were like, we can do something. We can raise some money here.

There's some action that can be done. Yeah, the boys and girls club, which we can all agree on is a good cause to be honest with you. Again, I don't always think of the individuals. But there's a lot of companies there. See, that's gave 100 grand.

So they would do that. But they were like, if someone win, they go where she goes over, we're covering her. I thought they would get it. Everybody has policies. I thought everybody would go like, you know, if you win, just go, hey, I'm sorry.

Netflix, you're giving money. The boys and girls club. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of thought it was a win win.

And I think I wish I explained this. For the week that it was, I thought it was like, look, you could go over and just tell Netflix. I mean, on top of you going over and you get to give your big, big, big speech. You get to go, you know what, in Netflix, give boys and girls club $100,000 on my name. Yes.

You thought of the clever fix for them. Yes. But they didn't necessarily come up with that. But I don't know if that's their fault. Another reason I didn't feel crazy bad about it.

I'm not many. Yeah. Yeah. It took me 23 years to get to this. And mine wasn't even on that show.

Yeah. It was in a garage. Two weeks before. I understand how hard it is to get where you want to get. But then I think of it as the entertainment aspect.

Yes.

β€œTo go like, well, you need to be a show.”

And that's one of the things. Everybody tells you that this is going too long. You may do it with a problem when they should fix. And if I would have known, I didn't know the presenters. They got to chill that out.

I know it's long. And people are going off script. And I know they want to be funny. Yeah. If I could have been alive in the moment.

Started just packing some time off these presenters. Those guys work hard. Yeah. They've been selling many. They're so many.

They have to come with so many. So many different. There's a lot a lot a lot that goes into it. Being a part of it. It's one of those reos.

I would never do it again.

And you're like, I don't know. I think I can fix it. That's the comic. Yeah. Yeah.

The comedian. When someone's bombing the comic before you. This crowd's terrible. Everybody's in this crowd's terrible. You always go like, let me get up there.

Yeah. And then you get up there. And they are. And it's up there. And they're in the dorm.

Yeah. Yeah. I bet I can get up. Yeah. If you don't think you can crack it.

What are you doing? Yeah. If you're not going for the fucking past. You're not a race car driver.

β€œSo I think the Oscars will be good this year.”

Because I think they got a lot of movies that people know. Yeah. F1 centers. People have seen them. Have seen them with TV and the Emmys.

There's just so much. It's fragmented. It's fragmented. And the people at home. You're not thinking about that crowd at home.

That's watching it. They want to watch an award show. It's live. It's fun. You know who's going to win?

It's sports. You have sports. Yeah. At your hands. So like make it sports.

Yeah. Make it exciting. And then you don't have to come up with a gimmick. You're kind of just purely like what is going to happen. Oscar parties.

We're always the giant parties and all this kind of stuff.

Nothing to say that the movies.

I know. They don't make a movie. That's period. They don't. Yeah.

We're not pulling them through the same middle. Yeah. We just did this the other day. We read like the 98. Every one of them was a 500 million dollar movie.

Everyone's on. Everyone loved it. And they had passed over another dozen great movies to get to the will. Yeah. Okay.

So post live at Gotham and Conan.

β€œDo your venue size chain when you're starting to tour?”

I guess I'm wondering. What are the markers? I know there's these big moments for you that get us to 2024, which is an insane year for you. What are the big markers in crowd size venues?

I love giving advice to young comics because I've done every single gig you could do. I wrote all the rides. Yeah. There was no quick when I got SNL. I was doing an arena.

I always say like SNL added the second arena.

So it like made me more mainstream. But I went through the whole process of doing the show with a parrot. Yeah. And then being in clubs and you start selling clubs. And it was Netflix.

First half hour and Netflix special, which was like a series. It wasn't even a stand-alone stand-up series. Yeah, it was a series. Thank you, Blazer is in it. They answer the fortune theme, sir.

The uncool. From that, I was at a comic club. And the week after that aired, some people came to the show. And I was doing jokes from that special because you didn't have to overturn jokes that much. Because no one knew.

I remember doing jokes. And then I was like, have y'all seen. And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah. We just watched a special. And you're like, oh, my gosh.

So then at that moment, you realized like, oh, I have to write a new hour now. Which is funny. It's different. Because when I was a kid and you loved Andrew Dice playing, you'd heard the rhymes. You still wanted to see him do it every time.

The paradigm change a bit. Ten of coming still of extremely new art. And then what it is today. If you go look at and not to mention because he's named. He's one of the greatest of all time.

Yeah, but and he's one of the first.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? George Crawlin, he would be a lie.

Yeah. George Crawlin's like 200. Yeah. And he'd probably have a man. He'd be alive.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's guys who all be alive. Side felt started like side felt kind of the one now. He's a virile man.

Yes. These guys are alive. So this art for how you see it has changed so much when they came up. Stand up was a niche thing. And then they abooms.

But there's all these live experiences. But you need to get into TV. You need to get a sick home. You went on Carson. And you got a sick home.

Yeah, that was the path.

Even when I started that was kind of the path.

But these kind of had the gaff again in Sebastian, Miss Gauko.

β€œDan Cook, I think was important to stand up comedy in the fact that you were able to go like,”

Oh, this is a guy in an arena. Through my space as well, not through me and on Carson. No, yes. And dice clay was one that you knew from stadiums and all this. But again, this was farther back.

Your access to him wasn't as easy to see it. Right. You saw it on HBO and it go with live, which is what I saw. And we videotaped it. Yeah.

But I would love to have gone and seen him in person and do all this stuff. I just saw. Those were giant things that were like going like, look, people are making it to this extremely high level. And then you have Dan Cook where now media and social media and like everything's out. So now everybody gets to watch everything Dan Cook is kind of getting to do.

And so then Dan Cook is giant. I'll add to the Dan Cook thing because I did a movie with them at the peak of that. Which was comedy as a cultural identity. So like when I was watching Dan, I was like, oh, there's something more going on than Richard Pride.

This is like, this is my band I like. Yeah. He is an identity marker for me. That's new to comedy. I think that was like kind of the beginning of he represents what I'm all about.

Yeah. As opposed to dice tells these nursing rhymes in their funnier pride. No one's watching Pride and I'm like, yeah, that's me. You like this story and they broke boundaries and they've get stuff and they were just such big. I'm just such big personalities.

I mean, it was such a big fan of dice. But it was just this big, big person out. To go for the media's like he's on SNL and he's on talk show. Yeah. Yeah.

It's crazy in the movies. And then even to see where he's at now, then he goes and was an entourage and all this. He's unreal. I've want to meet him. But I mean, Dan was a big part of that.

Then you got Gaffigan. It was very, very prolific. And write so many hours. I come from the school of writing and acting. And acting is very hard to create.

β€œAnd that's why there's certain points where you get.”

It can thin out a little bit is because you have to keep writing a new act. You got to feed the machine. And writing a new act is one of the harder things to do. Because you got to come up with stuff. Every time you tape a special, you're like, I don't know what I'm going to talk about.

Yeah, you're going to do an hour of material. But my guess is you're going to workshop 10 hours of material. The little that down to the one hour or maybe it's more. I don't know. Yeah, what events and how you work.

But you're just in your head looking for any. You deserve it. Yeah. Well, this I got to say when I was in the ground. It's just like we had to put up hopefully five or six new sketches every Wednesday.

And by the end of the year of just and I have to be sitting at a restaurant.

I'm like, oh, do you see how that guy grab the napkin?

That's funny.

What if we had to sketch for, you know, you're out.

You're mine. You're watching. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what's saying to this.

Yeah. And it kind of fucked up your waking hours. All you're doing is looking for it. Yeah. It's like grabbing nuts the squirrel.

You're going to hibernation with me. I'm such a big fan of staying because they kind of have to do so much. You have to write, direct, produce.

β€œYou have to come to stuff if you're talking about a girl in middle of your act.”

And you got to try to sound like that or this and change your voice. There's just so much stuff that they have to go do. And you got to just stand up by yourself. Yeah. And then just entertain.

And then these people. Doesn't go well all the time. You're not when you're creating it. Yeah. So it's this this junction between you're on the road doing the hour that was, say,

on Amazon prime or on, you know, whatever. And everything works great. And now we're back to the batting percentage. You're going to drop for a while. Yeah.

And you've got to adjust to. Oh, not crushing. Yeah. You have nowhere to go. It's you know, it's funny too.

Sometimes like after I take my last special. The day after I take that flu to and did this kind of corpority kind of event. There's some corporate events are great. They're big. They set up.

They have a nice stage. And then this one is little chiller. And everybody's kind of in nice, comfortable chairs. I did an hour material that I before in an arena. And then this was in front of like 40 people.

And I did that same hour in 25 minutes. Whoa. Like that's how much. Oh, my God. The crowd and energy impact.

You're not pausing. You're not people sitting. You're not. I mean, it is. That's an awesome bit of data.

Yeah.

β€œOh, you can jam because the pace is literally.”

It's more than two acts of what the night is worth in your head. You're like, I can't believe I'm at where I'm at. In my ass. Oh, that's incredible. Stay tuned for more armchair experts.

If you dare. So yes, you're just one of the episodes of the thing. But then you'll quickly do a Netflix special in the same year. And that goes well. And then you do a second Netflix special.

That one goes great. They need to Amazon. That one's huge. That's their biggest stand-up thing.

Every three million people watch it.

And I'm 28 days. It's bonkers. You go back and Netflix. And then S&O. Was it at all like, I thought I was famous.

I sell out arenas. And then I do S&O. And it's like, Oh, no. There's a whole other world that I really hadn't touched. Did you have that moment?

We're like, Oh, this is kind of trippy. I love awareness. So I was very aware of like, I knew I had to go destroy on S&O. I was doing a sold-out arena weekend. I was at Oklahoma City Thunder, where they play on that Sunday.

And then I flew to S&O. So I knew that I was going to fly.

β€œDo somewhere where people there are not going to know what I just did.”

And you're smart enough to know like I know that you started doing small rooms in New York to prepare for your monologue because you knew S&O is a small room in a weird way. Yes. Well, and I knew the monologue mattered the most. Yeah.

And so I just picked eight minutes of my hour special comics do that. Lot of comics. They think when you go on S&O, if you go on tonight's show, there'd be like, I've already heard this material. You're like, Yeah, man.

Like, I got to go through it. I got to this is a whole. I knew I was going to talk to people that are not watching my stand-up. Yeah. You're being introduced to a whole bunch of people.

Yeah.

I would always joke and just be kind of like, well, I'm not even famous.

In the idea that you could go sell and arena out and then go back. But I'm not famous. I know. Like it's weird. Because you said a record with 1.1 million tickets sold in 2024.

Yeah. But also, that's not a large television audience. Let's say everyone that knew you came and saw you and bought a ticket. That's actually a shoulder going to cancel. Yeah.

But it's huge in the stand-up. It can be misleading to get them to come out and go do that. We're going to see if this works out in this movie. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I knew I had to go on and make a point. And the good part about getting it so late in my career is I was much more prepared for that moment. I was the most nervous about the monologue.

Because I was like, that has to go good. That's what I'm supposed to be good at. Yeah. And then the rest of it. The expectations won't be that high.

I thought it would be fine because it's live performing. It's like, I think I'll do fine in it. And then we got luck with the George Washington sketch. It goes crazy. I mean, the George Washington thing is bigger than it's the thing on YouTube.

Like, just views wise. views us, but what people come up to me. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They love your stand-up.

But there'd be like, George Washington. It was like the funniest. The George Washington thing is the reason I can almost like walk up to anybody now. And you know they kind of know you. Yeah.

Yeah. They're having some weird feeling whether they went to high school with you or something. They recognize you. They recognize you now. And I know it's probably from SNL.

Now it's just a bunch of other stuff.

Yeah.

All kind of clothes.

β€œNow 2018 you quit drinking and this someone who quit drinking in 2004.”

I want to know what precipitates that. Thanks for cracking. I was about to start doing theaters from comedy clubs. It was my last comedy club. I was in Charlotte, Comedy Zone, Great Club.

It was last time I drank. I just knew if I wanted to get where I wanted to get this was in the way.

You would have a fun night Thursday night because that'd be a first show and you wouldn't be drinking.

You'd be hung over on Friday. The hungover Friday. There's the week in your hungover. Yeah. So then you're not going to mentally work on it.

Try to expand. You're going to survive. The extent that I wanted to get to. I just knew I couldn't get to that. Were you also letting people down?

You loved were you inconsistent? Were you not available? You're just embarrassing. You know, just even waking up and being like, I don't know what I said. You know, we just feel bad.

You're taking an inventory of all the things that happen. And each one's getting worse and worse. And you're like, who do I got to call? You know what? Helped was Alikor's got a great book.

His is big on non. He doesn't know what he's been doing. No. No. Yeah.

Yeah. He just talks to it. He frames everything in an instrument. There's another book I read too. And I'm blankly a bit.

The big book of Alikor's anonymous. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. You're an anomaly.

Yeah. I mean, it's not easy to do without some sort of stuff. You know, I do rob low on Howard Stern years ago. I heard, I think he quit drinking. He said, I didn't have it because you think alcoholism is.

You're waking up drinking shots of vodka. And I knew a guy like that.

β€œI remember him showing up to work at 7 a.m.”

And shouldn't have driven to work in the bag. Yeah. And it wasn't like he was up on. He already started. In my case, the end was like,

I'm not someone who's going to drink in the morning, but also this hangover isn't so favorable. I don't want to get drunk. I want to alleviate this fucking anguish of this hangover. And then I'd be like, Oh, yeah.

I drink Sunday mornings. I can manage that. That's on the weekend. And now Monday mornings, I drink. And I'm like, Oh, my God.

I'm a dude who fucking drinks in the morning. Yeah. It's easy to get there. But then the level where you have a problem with it. What I liked when Roblo said it was.

It wasn't this extreme thing where you're like, I'm drinking 24 hours a day or whatever. Right. I never drink at home.

I would never crack a beer open and have a beer.

But when I was out with friends, I didn't know how to stop. Right. And so it was like, you would just get going. And then that's a dome of momentum.

There'd be times though, I'd go two weeks without drinking. It wouldn't bother me. Right. I wouldn't be like, Oh, I need to go drink. I think when I heard Roblo say that,

it was like, Oh, this addiction. You think it's just driving off a cliff. No. Yeah. There's so many levels of it.

That's a great point. Because I've had dudes in training. And so we're like, Well, I never did coke. And I'm like, Okay. I remember watching this HBO show called Dobe Sick.

And there was a dude who was buying crack, melting the crack and shooting it up. And I'm like, Okay, well, I smoke crack. And I could be sitting here going. Well, I never melted it and shot it up.

That could keep me from addressing this. You can always find someone working. We're going to start somewhere city. But all you think is the worst thing. And so then that's what makes you think.

You don't have like a problem.

β€œBut I think even the analysis of does this thing take more than it gives?”

And if you know it takes more than it gives, and you somehow can't stop, that's worth questioning. Why would I do something that I know takes more than it gives? Yeah. Food is the one I have now.

And that's the one I'm working on now. I was trying to. But we have a map that's weird for that one. Yes, they do. Yeah.

I mean, if I could take a shot and drink two jack and diets once a week. Fuck. That sounds good. Yeah. Yeah.

There's no shame in that. No, no, no, yeah. That's been the hardest for me to get going like the eating. I just don't. I like fast food.

I like delicious. All this stuff. And you get stressed and then you end up going to it. Well, you're regulating the other stuff. Whether it's sex, it's booze, it's food.

You feel discomfort. And you have a very quick solution. And that's very tempting. Yeah, it's tough. Okay.

Now you had one deal to do a sitcom at one point. The family was producing at Universal. And then you had an ABC pilot that you shot. Side note. Do you love Kurtwood?

The best. I love that man so much. I had lunch with him last week. I mean, what I've been. Beautiful.

Yeah. He has no text. He's just so nice. He's a wonderful man. I feel so lucky.

I know that guy. So why do a movie? I mean, I guess I probably already know. This sitcom thing is not for me. Tell me the decision to do a movie.

Well, the second thing I did. I wrote a script every year. We only shot one pilot.

I always made it to the point where we wrote this script.

But never made it to the pilot. So I tried it for eight years and eight scripts. And then some of them weren't some of them were. It's a tomorrow. I see experiments.

It's really crazy. You know, it's a year-long process. In a sense. I got to call that they weren't going to do it. And I mean, I was in like Edmonton.

And it was minus 20 degrees.

Outside real fast.

I'm walking to the club. And they're just like, yeah, it's not happening. And then you just go to go do your set. You guys are going to do your show. I'm about to go with stage.

And you're like. And the guy puts his camera down. Save your film. Yeah. You can still not make it.

I kind of learned quickly. And again, this is kind of the aspect of being clean. Because I've got all additions. And I would do all additions. I wouldn't want to curse and stuff.

A lot of all additions would be maybe doing something that I was like, I don't really feel comfortable doing it. And then even if it was one that I did,

I would never commit to it to even even give a chance to get it.

Right. I did a coin brothers audition within past couple years. I have not met them, but their person in books all their stuff. The most wonderful. There was a lot of cursing the character I would have played.

And I said, like, I'm just not going to curse.

β€œWere you going to say, like, dad gummet and stuff in place of it?”

Were you going to try to do it? No, I would have just figured. The way I do it is like, I try to do it where you don't know. I'm not doing it. Because I think you don't make it super obvious.

Yeah. It's just I have to think of a different way to say something. And I always think that's not your problem. That's my problem. You can give me a rated R script.

I'll go through it. Yeah. I'll make it how what I'm being comfortable. It's not on you. Yeah.

This is my thing.

They were very wonderful.

But it's like the more and more you realize. Auditioning and all this stuff. You're like, I'm just not going to get your very square pants in this round hole. And so I learned it earlier. And then you just kind of learned that, like,

All right, I'm going to have to create anything that I want to go do. And I'm going to have to be at a point in my career where I could go. I'm not doing that. So whatever. So that's where I was like, hey, just kept doing stand up and kept trying all this kind of stuff.

And then it just kind of worked out with the specials and everything. It all kind of started clicking. And you know, when I go on SNL, it's like, I'm not going to do something political or I'm not going to curse. You're proving your concept.

People are like, yeah, he does it this weird way, but it works. Yeah, we all like it. I'm out of my own business. I'm not better than you. Yeah.

Yeah. You do. I'm going to go do some side of it too is like competitively. You just look and go like, I just don't see a lot of people doing it this way. You need to be yourself.

Yeah. Maybe who you are. So when does breadwinner come about as a concept? Because I was watching your friend today. I was seen.

Oh, yeah, we're touching. There's some my stand up.

β€œYeah, which I think is an obvious and smart place to start.”

So how do you start thinking of like, okay, What package do I put this point of view in? Me and right are Dan Legona who we wrote a pilot together again, 10, 12 years, whatever 15 year. Yeah.

That didn't go.

And then so we've always just stayed in touch.

So Dan came to me when you write a TV show. The show runner and I think the writers really matter. So when you go do a TV show, that really matters. A movie. Like when you saw half of what I know about Hollywood is because of

Hunter Us. So like Hunter Us. And they go find those guys shooting at that gun range. A movie can come from a guy that lives under a bridge. The writer, it just doesn't matter.

The director's going to be the director. The director medium TV's a writer. Yes, when you do that, I even like that because you're like, All right, now you're not getting just completely paired up with. You know, well, this guy did this and this and this and this and you want to go like,

the writer with my friend or whatever. So me, Lagana, the guy on the phone and just started talking about trying to write a movie. And then, you know, it just kind of falls along in my stand up about being, I don't know, just whatever I talk about my stand up. Make it a movie.

It's actually like a, it was funny. He's, I didn't even think of Mr. Mom.

β€œWe were talking about John's use movies.”

And that's when I want to create more up. Yeah, the home alone's playing trains on him. But it was like, oh, this kind of stuff like that. Mr. Mom, I knew what it was. I don't know if I've ever seen it.

I didn't watch a ton of movies growing up. So I'm like pitching. I was like, yeah, this is great. And then it is funny that it's like, yeah, John Hughes. You're like, of course.

It's like, so it's essentially, it's exactly, you're like, oh, yeah, they way did that. Yeah, that's why it's a good idea. It has time to become a good idea. You're like, dude, is this the best idea ever?

Yeah, it was 50 years ago when they did it. We're not trying to be something better than that. But it was like, my take on it. And two, because there's this thing where it's like, the dad is dumb and everything and all this.

This movie is not that. Can I set up the premise? Your wife gets to be on Shark Tank. She has some invention. And then they tell her, you know, you're going to be quite busy.

And you have a family. Use your husband going to be able to take over. So you'll be free for us to invest. And then you happen to be backstage eating the doughnuts. And they bring you on stage and you embarrass her and you're a dipshit.

And so that kind of crumbles. And then now she's going to be gone for a month to go out and try to get this. And I got to raise the kids. And you got to step in your car salesman. Yeah, so cars with Camel.

Come out. Yeah, we love him. We love him so much. Me and Camel started together in Chicago. Oh, Camel.

Yeah. One of my oldest beehomes.

Come out like Hannibal Burris, TJ Miller.

There's a lot of comics that we were in Chicago when we all started.

Yeah. He homes obviously. So Camel was unbelievable.

β€œAnd it was very great to have Camel on the set because he's done so much.”

And now a bit of movies. And so to have someone that you're. Friends with him that you've known for 20 years, I could ask him a lot of stuff. You can be vulnerable and not feel. Yeah.

Because that was a big thing of where people like, yeah, the dad's sick. You know, well, this dad doesn't want to do anything. Just another dump day. Well, you're like, dude, I don't want to do stuff. But a lot of roles in life.

If one leaves. The other one's going to be like in some pretty big trouble. And it's also based on like I've a joke about my daughter. It's called her school called me and asked me. What bus number my daughter's on.

I'm like, why would you call the dad? It's like that joke. If I woke up to anybody, that's the joke they bring up. Yeah. To anybody.

Because everybody can relate to that. Swipe whatever.

β€œI got a joke about because I did my laundry forever.”

I thought it was a big deal. And it wasn't as big of a deal. Because I'm going to, you know, I want you to say it. He goes, yeah, I do my laundry. I'm going to bring that up in a fight.

But I'm going to sit on it for a minute. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, I thought of it one day. Because I knew my mom did my dad's laundry. That's how you grow up.

That's how it happens a lot. For the record, my wife does all the laundry. Yeah, I don't want to lie. But I just did it.

Because I, you know, I always be traveling.

She would have, I just dumped it in there and like whatever. But I thought, oh, yeah, that's because my neighbors like they're watching. And I, so I was just like, well, just wait. I'll hold on to it. And wait in my head.

It's a bomb. I'm like in my head. I'm like, it's a fight. Yeah, it's a fight. Yeah, it's a nuclear option.

Yeah, like if I set the house on fire, I could be like, okay, but you got to guide it. There's a laundry. Yeah, you should have a laundry. Did you use it?

Yes, I did drop it in. It did not go like it. The punch line is he goes, uh, he goes, yeah, I dropped this fight ender. And I had not anticipated it. It was going to start another fight.

That's right. That is right. Yeah. It's so much of a fight. might be getting our rain. Yeah, yeah. It was tinder. It was just kind of

said it and then it sparked and then it flew. Yeah. You got a great cast. How did you get for Tay and if his wife is accepted a bunch of bids and some guy came in way under. It's well for Tay who's just a sweetest and so funny. Yeah, the whole cast is great Mandy Moore's by wife got Colin Joest in it very funny. He's going to go line dance with the mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He plays like the stay home dad. Another reason I thought about

this was because there was a guy I knew that was the stay at home dad. It's funny. He would be around women so much that I was like, if he came and hung around with us, it would kind of be weird. He was like, he was just like, he was like, he's like, he just did it. It was like very funny. This was just in real life. So that's when I somewhat thought of the idea was that kind of aspect that you get kind of lost and you're just surrounding it and you

adapt to it. We're all a product of whatever context. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kind of thought of him. And I got a buddy that's the opposite. His wife's a dentist. They own their own dentistry. So he's a stay home dad. It's a mess. He was a mother. He was both a member kind of the ideas that I thought of. He's yeah, like a dude. The mom's cannot. I mean, he barbecue's every night for dinner. Oh, he did five nights a week. He drives his car to pick up and it ruins everything. There's no

system. It's like the most man, if you like call him and you're like, hey, let's go watch the game tonight somewhere. He brings his kids because he doesn't have that in his head to go like, you know what, I should probably get the kids to sleep. He's like, you know what, they can stay up to him in night too. I just liked the idea of just the kind of chaotic and Colin is so funny in it is playing the stay home dad. The execution, I wish I could have seen the whole thing. I can only see the trailer and

the scenes I saw, but the execution is incredible. It has your spirit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the

β€œlook. I'm excited about it. I think this is a movie that if you've watched me as a standup,”

you would think I would make this movie. You're going to see some jokes that would make sense and maybe a bit of my act, but we do have a great cast. It's a family movie that's live action. Yeah, live action. And we just want you to bring everybody. It's definitely feel good. We need some of that. Yeah. Yeah. My last question for you, and this is selfishly motivated. Now that I've spent so much time in Nashville, you're going to open a theme park in Nashville.

Yeah. Yeah. That's as much as you can say about it. Yeah. More will come, but we used to have a theme park on Opelian. It was my first job. I was a sweeper at it when I was 15. Probably a lot of cigarette butts. Only cigarette butts. Yeah. They took when I was like senior in high school and it's a mall now. Everybody loved Opelian. It was

A profitable.

No, no, no. I graduated from 1997. I'm 46. Oh, so it shut down in the 90. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The 90s. So it was just annoying. Now I didn't think at that time I'm going to go to do this. You hit points in your career where you got to figure out what's your purpose of being here. And so one from me when I did Bridgestone Arena in 1973 and 1975 seats record. So I used

to day dream about that. And so my dumb little thing that I was saying is I always think like your

β€œgoals, you should be embarrassed if you don't get them and your dream should be embarrassed to say”

out loud. And so it was kind of like that. So they dream of that bridge show, right? So then I get to that bridge tonight and I can't believe I'm there. And then your direction was for a second. That's what's so confusing about success. Yes. Because it can't be about you. Or that's what I believe. Anything that you're doing cannot be about you. If it's about you, it's only going to go back because it's never going to be good enough. And so you have to have another reason for it.

And so then that's when I kind of came over the idea of Nate Land in the company that I'm starting in like this movie where I really want you to be a trust this brand and trust when you see it, you know what it is. We have a motto for a production company or movies like Good Clean Funny. And but I think we can do Good Clean Drama. It's basically like I can make die hard but the one that airs on TBS. I even like that you said, you know, there was this arrow where you

could go to the mall. You let your kids fuck off and run forever. You got to have a good meal with your friends. Yes. What a dream. I'm in experience with going out and touring. And so they tell you

it's always well, no one watches movies anymore. No one wants to go. I just find that hard to believe

when I'm staring at people out. And again, it's one of those where you're like the system that makes the thing is blaming the person. I don't think it's their fault. They're just doing what you're you're not really responding to. They're responding to you, you give them an animated movie or a horror movie and they have no choice. Well, you want them to go. And then the movie theaters, which is a dude that owns a theater. He can't get people to come in there. So I just wanted to create

that experience. I want to really try to see if people will come back to theaters. Maybe they will maybe I have no idea. But then the theme park is the bigger aspect of it. To go and be like this place that you can come bring your family. I want you to be able to let your kids go run. When my parents, they could drop you off at Opuland. And you could go hang out with your friends and be alone. Maybe you have a girlfriend that you get to go hang out with or you have all these little experiences or maybe

you're 12 in your pants like y'all go meet here in one hour. And you have autonomy. That freedom.

β€œNow you talk those freedoms. Weirdly, the only way for people to get them is they actually have to”

go become very wealthy and live in gated communities. And they can go live like the 50s. It's the other people that can't. And so I want to create a space for that. And some of it would be free, some is going to be a theme park like a downtown Disney where you can't just go walk around. Yeah, but you want it to be this place where people go. And I want you to be able to feel that you can drop a safe bubble. A safe bubble that they can just have a place to go. So I've heard you say

they potentially you would stop touring the 2024 to are generated like $85 million dollars.

Mentally, how do you get yourself to a place where you know you might unplug from that safety that's coming your way? It's hard. I mean, especially right now because we're doing feasibility studies and we're doing all the stuff this theme park. I'm paying for all this. So everything that's going into this theme park, which these studies and these economic studies and all of this kind of stuff is very, very, very expensive. Yeah. So right now, I'm paying for everything. I'm paying

for the tour. We have employees that work for us, health care. We have all this stuff that I'm able to provide graciously because people come to shows. Yeah. So I don't want that to go away. When I said stopping touring, I did have the idea of where it was like, I want to get out of the way if someone else comes along. I don't think it's as soon as I probably thought I was when I initially said it, but there is a point I want to go develop younger people and find them. I think

β€œthat's what's happened in the industry that we're in now is the developing of younger people.”

I'm not trying to even do anything different. I'm just literally taking your 80s 90s way and just going, like, we need to probably do that. I know if I need to be in movies, I'm probably going to have to star in movies to sell the tickets for the movies. I want to be able to do it to find the people to then find the next big, Tom hey pass the baton off and break them off and try to have them go do stuff and build a

world and really go develop. Let people develop social media, especially with comedy, it forms a lot of bad habits because you're first told to get booked at a comedy club. You have to have followers. Well, to get followers on Instagram, you got to do stuff that you cannot undo. Well, you cannot undo and it's too hard to create. Yeah. You got to create it every day.

Well, you're getting to clip mindset, not the routine.

is got to be crazier and crazier and crazier and crazier. Well, you're trying to hack the algorithm.

Yeah. My new job is not the audience. It's kind of hacking the elements.

β€œAnd you have to grab the low hanging fruit. That's all you can do or you can build an act”

where people can trust and they're going to come to it. I still think that exists. I think a change is happening and you're seeing it. Younger people are annoyed with their phone. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. People are starting to like start to go like I don't like this. That's why experiences are becoming a thing. That's why people want to go out and kind of go do stuff restaurants or have pickable and all this stuff in it. And so you're seeing this aspect

being do it. I very much hope for you and all of us that everyone goes. I think it would be very

fun for everyone in their family. Thank you very much. You need those options. And this has been a fucking blast. So yeah, thanks for giving me so much time. I love that. Y'all are so fun to talk

β€œwith. And I can't wait to see it home. Oh my god. Now. All right. Great time with you. Thank you so much.”

Ready to come for the five shots. So you can hear all the facts that were wrong. Ready? Yes. I have two drinks. I feel safe. Good. Okay. I'll go to both in this little chat. I know you intake a lot of fluid. Yeah. Oh, speaking of that. I was at an event. And I was sitting with a stranger. Also just another. Just just so funny to be at events and feel like a little kid, you know. What event was this? It was for Rose the hair product that I love. Yeah. And it was

at DuPars. It's a very cute diner. Okay. And they had rented out this space. It was so cute. But there's like tables and people were kind of sitting at tables. Mishmash, you know. And I was with Rachel, my friend Rachel. And we were like, what do we, what do we do? We had to ask if he could sit

β€œwith someone. And it's like a school cafeteria. Yeah, middle school even worse. And then they said no.”

Yeah. Because it was taken already. Yeah. They were like, we have someone coming out there. Oh boy. Yeah. Okay. Luckily we found these two women who let us sit with them. She's yeah. No thanks. Yeah. And one of them was half Indian. Okay. And she also didn't drink water. So interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, my dad doesn't drink water. Yeah. Just make a load. Sometimes make a water. But no water. It's conceivable. We just don't need it as much. Well, what's very conceivable is

if you monitor water intake across populations, you would see different levels. Yeah. And it would be quite interesting if Indians were like, yeah, very low on that. What if you own, what if Indians only need one symbol a day? Or I'm going to make an armchair theory. Okay. Okay. And this goes to why African Americans have higher rates of hypertension. Yes. I don't know. I've already said this before. But when the people were kidnapped and enslaved, they were marched across the continent of Africa.

And half the people died of dehydrations. They were not offering them water. And then so the people that made it to the boat, they had a really an above average salinity count. They held unto salt in their body. And then they got on these boats. They did not serve them water, disinteriors was running rampant. Another half of them died of dehydration on that trip. Right. So the only people I got here had a really a normally high salinity count. Yeah. And which is now leads to hypertension.

Right. So it's conceivable to me that the environment Indians came from hot and warm. Yeah. That you guys do hold on to your salt better. Yeah. In which case you would need less water. Yeah. But I wonder what the rate of hypertension is for Indians. Sky, fucking high. Is it? I don't know. Okay. It's as approximately 25% to 30% of adults in India have hypertension. Versus how many and say England? Okay. That's a very white. We're Sweden. 32 to 33. Same. Okay. All right. Well there

there goes that. Well, I mean, I don't know. I'm going to be going to run the risk of being offensive here. Okay. Go ahead. How many people in the India are getting measured for hypertension? Like

how many people are going to the doctor? We know that like 700 million of them are living in such poverty.

They're not seeing a doctor ever to be a labeled. Village doctor. I just doubted that the data on hypertension in India is any more comparable to the data that's coming from England. Because so many people don't have medical care in India versus it. Yeah. Maybe maybe. That hurt your feelings. No.

It's in it.

I don't know about the village doctors. A big issue with India is there is very the cities.

There's some very rich cities and then there's extreme poverty. Yeah. So yeah, it's hard to know what these numbers are based off. Yeah. Any other epidemiologists or you're an anthropologist that study this in the comments? Tell us if there's any data that suggests Indians require less water.

β€œYeah. If like I feel good just having a symbol, then like I think maybe it's fine. My body would tell”

me like you get thirsty. Yeah. I don't know what's what. Right. Right. I just do things compulsively. Sure. Anything I like. I do not stop. I know, but you like drinking water. Love it. Love it. I know you love it because of the way it makes you feel right. Yeah. Love how cool it is

and it's refreshing. Yes. I get none of that. Yeah. I love that Benny. Yeah. I see. I know you

I told you. It's a carry around a gallon of my well water. Sure. Everywhere in high school people on Jesus. Here's a deck with this gallon of well water. I love the taste of our well water. So much. And when I was in Walt Lake where I went to high school, everyone's in city water. And so I needed my jug of well water. Isn't it perverse? So you're like empty out the milk, gallon, and put the well water? Why wouldn't empty it out? But once it was empty,

I would wash that out. I would waste a gallon of milk. No, that would, that's waste. My mother would be fast up and arms. Yeah. I just, I think, you know, I've told you this. Sometimes I get actually like

very, very full off water. Uh-huh. And that doesn't seem, I'm not seeing other people get very

full. I can drink a gallon of it. Exactly. I'm seeing you guys be so thirsty. So to this

β€œFDA, she didn't have Indian drink water, too. That's what you discovered. Yeah. Oh, wow. So I'm building a”

reel. You have an of three, I guess. You're dead. Good. I guess people can weigh in, but only weigh in if you are on my side. If you're half Indian or above, we don't. Yeah. No one 30% right? No. No. I prefer honestly I prefer 100%. Yeah, like you're 23. That's right. Something at the event, there was just that. Is that you felt uncomfortable or is there another thing? No, just water. Yeah, the water. Well, I would do an event, too. Oh, tell me. Yeah. I traveled to New Orleans. That's right. You did

to be a guest at Walter Isaacs. Why don't know if it's his primarily with the Tling New Orleans Book Festival. Um, I've put a lot of words together. I don't know if it's called the New Orleans Book Festival or the Tling Book Festival or the Tling or the New Orleans Tling, whatever. Those were the people

β€œand it's Walter Isaacsson. Walter Isaacsson. Yeah. That's what I didn't say. The New Orleans”

Book Festival at Tulane University. Okay, that is a lot of words. And you didn't get them all. Okay, the New Orleans Book Festival at Tulane University by Walter Isaacsson. Was it fun? It was. Okay, I haven't been to New Orleans and I guess since Kristen shot a movie there, we had a rental house directly across from Tling, which is north of the city by 20 minutes or something, much different vibe than downtown New Orleans. So I was the end downtown. Okay. And so I've been downtown in a

goat's age. So I got there on Friday and I decided I'm going to take a walk. Okay. Before everyone's completely annihilated. Okay. It's a huge, everyone. I shouldn't any light on this. It's a boozey fucking city. It's such a good city. Maybe the boozey. Yeah. Yeah. And I walked down to Bourbon Street and Canal and then was cruising down. I immediately saw this like 16 piece jazz band, the rag tag group like no uniformity and their wardrobe or their style or their

seeming their background. It was rad. I watched it for like an hour. Yeah. I even recorded some of it thinking I'll show someone and then I was like, no, who's going to want to watch us? I found myself recording a little bit. That was really fun. And yeah, New Orleans is I got to say if any city in America has the most distinct fingerprint, it's that city. It's not sure. Yes. It's like so French. It is. And so black in the increal and all these things and it's like the vibe is so unique. Yeah.

And all the food everywhere you're at, even if you're at a corner thing, it's going to have something. They're going to have turtle soup or they're going to have some weird animal on there that I don't normally eat and there's going to be a French items on any menu. Turtle soup. And I knew my event was unsaturday afternoon and Anderson Cooper was interviewing me. Yeah. And which was great because we interviewed him a long time ago. Yes for his Vanderbilt book.

He reached out like, hey, can we chat before the event?

Then he said, hey, I'm going to work out. Then I'm going to eat at the steak house in the hotel.

β€œIf you want to swing by. So he did. So then we have like an hour sit there on the river.”

Oh, shoot in the shed. Oh, with steak. How will you how? Well, he had already in a poll boy at another spot. Oh, oh, boy. Do you like co boys? I can't fuck with them because of the bread. So I just beaten a plate of shrimp, I guess. And you don't like seafood. Okay. I like shrimp. If it's in that's that's an asterisk. Okay. But I bet you will do like fried shrimp cocktail. I love fried shrimp. So you would like the Pope ways. Yes. I've liked Pope boys in the past. They're hard to say. Yeah. Oh,

not really. Oh, Pope boy. It's not poor boy. I know that you want to say boy boy. Oh, Pope boy. Oh, to say, I felt very, very grateful. I was like, look at me sitting on the fucking Mississippi River chatting with Anderson Cooper. How did I get here? This is very fun. Yeah. And unique. And I was grateful for it. We had a lovely time. We could and I was like,

β€œoh, you get a drink. It's happy hour. Say no, he drinks. He's like, no, I'm just going to have a coffee.”

And then later he's like, I got to go. I, and I'm like, where are you going? It was like six. He's like, I have to do the news. Oh, fuck. I'm thinking because he's in New Orleans. He did, he's not. Yeah, he had the day off. He wasn't. He had to leave my cable side and go to a remote studio and do Anderson 360. Wow. So after I walked around the French quarter a little bit, I got back to my hotel before all the blackoutness started. Although there was some, there was plenty of

blackout. And then I'm in my hotel room and I'm like, oh, I'm going to turn on 60 minutes,

which I never watched. Sure enough, there was Anderson 360. And my only, oh, we're just shooting.

It was very, that's weird. I felt like the fabric time in space was tearing. Yeah. And then the event was Saturday and it was completely lovely. It was in their basketball arena. So I don't know how many thousand people there, but it was huge. Great. And the topic was grief because Anderson has a podcast called All That There Is or something like that. And it's all about grief because when his mom died, he started going through all of her stuff and he decided

to start recording his thoughts on it and then it turned into this grief podcast he has. All there is with Anderson Cooper. All there is with Anderson Cooper. And so it was about grief. So then it was all about my dad. And it was just lovely. It was outrageously lovely. He was reading from the thing I had written about him, which hadn't heard in a while. Oh, yeah. And you would have hated it, Monica. I bet I, I bet I cried six times on that today. I wouldn't have hated it. Let's not make

that a thing. Okay. What would you have felt about it? I thought I would have felt like a sweet or I won't make that a thing. It's not a thing. It's a unique experience to cry on stage in public in front of five or six thousand people. I'm bad. Yeah. You did it once before you did it. I got took up one time on stage with Keith. Yeah, it was really sweet. It was. It was about my dad. This is about my low and behold. Yeah, dad's all do that. You know, God, dad's

are a lot to handle emotionally. Yeah. And I bet they're they're different daughter to father than son to father. I mean, I'm sure it's individual, but yeah, I mean, the broad trend. I know. I feel bad about, do you feel bad about that? About what? That you're feelings about your dad or our, your emotions. Like, you love both of them, obviously, but I'm in my dad. Yeah. Yeah. But your emotions toward one are a little different than your

emotions toward the other. I sometimes have guilt about that. Well, one is historically your nurture. Right. And the other is like again, forgive me, historically. Like the rational one that's going to tell you you're on course to be right. It's like you're there. That person's your sign

posts of like, good job. You're done this now. Here's what you do with your tech. I don't know.

It's just more like just staying. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get it. That's not what I have. Yeah. I feel like friends of my dad's taught him how to do a lot of stuff in their moms comforted them and taught them how to be emotional. But my mom taught me. I don't even know what I'm saying. I'm more think not in terms of like how you feel about a mom versus a dad just like what a daughter

β€œfeels about a dad versus what a boy feels about a dad. Right. Like I tell me, um, I think”

boys are looking for much more validation from their fathers that like they're becoming men

Or they're they're waiting for that.

Stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare.

β€œIs that what you're looking for from your dad?”

Um, not like you become a good woman because I would be like, yeah, how would you know? Right. Exactly. But definitely you want your dad to be proud of you. Yeah. Yes. Definitely. So there's something going out in the roles for sure. Yeah. No one for one. There's like there's definitely like different baggage with each. It is. It's weird. And like my baggage with my mom is not the baggage. My brother has with my mom. Yeah. And all all the iterations are everyone has baggage

with everyone and they're all different. Yeah. And it's I'm sure it has to do with gender. But also,

yeah, I see the tension between my mom and my sister and it's just not tension that I have in my mind. But it is the same tension I have between my dad and I, you know, right. There's something about the same gender that yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, it was lovely. I met Kenny Chesney backstage. Big country star. Huge. A great chat with him. It was quite fun. And then I went back to my hotel. And I had noticed there was a Creole restaurant in the bottom of my hotel that has it was highly

recommend. So I'm like, okay, tonight's I'm going to work out and then I'm going to eat a bunch of

turtles. And so I do all my little chores and then I go down by myself. And I see in the menu for the

table, whole fried chicken, red beans and rice. It's got a cool name. It's $100. And I'm like, I can't eat a whole chicken. This is for like four people. Right. I can't eat a whole chicken. And I want it. There's no other option for fried chicken. It's just that. So I'm like,

β€œI can't eat all that. And if the only way I can have fried chicken, I'm going to get it. Yeah.”

It came Monica in this huge fucking metal pan tin. And it was the best fried chicken I'd ever had buy like three deviations above. I can't tell. It was so much breading. So much breading. So it's a little contradictory to where I was just talking about with the Popeye. Right, because I did they fuck it. You're right. Yep. But worth it. But I want to save the breading to chicken ratio was 65, 35, 65% breading. And it had three dipping sauces, a hot chili one, honey. And then

a garlic one I couldn't fuck with. It smells so good. I don't know. It's delicious if you put that garlic on it. Anyways, I ate so much fucking chicken and breading. Yeah. All the sauces. I killed all the honey. I had my rice and my beans. I was so full at the end of it. Then I said,

β€œyou must go walk for a half hour. Yes, man. Let's try to help your insulin a little bit. So then”

Monica got on those streets. I started pounding those streets. And again, I was overall. I went in a different direction. Okay. And I was over. It was more the upscale direction. And I was smelling so many fun smells and the architecture was different and all the little balconies. And I was mitten. It's a great city. I loved it. It was great. It was a great little excursion. Speaking into run ends, I had a sim moment. Oh, great. Well, you were gone. I went to a store I like to go to.

I feel like maybe I shouldn't say. I don't want to like blow up anyone's spot. Okay. Then don't don't say the name of the store. Okay. I went into a store. Yeah. I was looking. And I saw this woman from the back. And I liked the back of her sweater. Yeah. I was saying I want that sweater. Yeah. Cool. And then I kept looking at the clothes. And then all of a sudden, she turned around. And it was Amanda Pete. No way. Yes. Oh, my God. And it was so chill. And then like Belle. It was Amanda. I

confirmed. And she said, Oh, my God. So crazy. I was just we were I was just talking about you because one of the sales associates there said to her, I just heard you want something. She said, oh, was it harm chair. And then he said, yes. So this was very semi. It was so exciting. And then we were all chatting and it got your mosh on cubes. I did invite her to mosh on. She hasn't. She's not. She's on the fence. It was such a good run. And she's so fun. And she was like meeting friends

for dinner and I was like, oh, what a life. Yeah. And one of the friends she was meeting was Amanda

Anka.

about astrology a little bit. Do you guys decide? We decided we're right. Okay. Yeah, just and I were on our way to sunset tower. We were very indecisive. We wanted to hang out, but we didn't know

what we wanted to do. And finally, we were like, let's go to sunset towers. We're on our way. And

just said, he said, well, my friend said that if you're indecisive, it means you have bad gut health. And I was like, I have good gut health. And then, you know, we're driving in all of the sudden, I said, I want to go to this store. I want to go right now. Yeah. And he was like, oh, okay. And I was like, unless you don't, unless you don't want to, but it'll be fast. I just want to run and get these pants. Yeah. He was like, yeah, fine. No worries. And so then I go and all this sim stuff happened.

β€œOh, wow, good gut health. That's what I, that was my takeaway. Great. Good. Um, at the end of last”

episode, I ended up cutting it because we were signing off. And I said, oh, wait, wait, I have something

important to say. And then when I was editing, I was like, whatever, I'll cut that. Um, because it felt wrapped up, you know, but I will say now that I have a new wrinkle under my eye. You're convinced now it's here for good, because you thought maybe it was a result. I was hoping that maybe it was temp, because you had, I didn't think we were with my eye. Yeah, you swatted your eye or something. Yeah, and I thought maybe that was a result. Yeah. But it's still there. Okay. And I had a really long,

watery gray hair the other day. Okay. So stuff's happening. Yeah. And I'm welcome. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. I'm not ready. I'm not ready. Yeah. As my hair grows out, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's so great. So great. No, but you're a man. I know. I know. It's different. I still don't like, uh, doesn't mean I enjoy. But you know that the whole thing is like, men look hotter with

β€œage and women like, I mean, and buried. I think we make a big meal of when someone does like George”

Cleanser, I love his salt and pepper, but there are a lot of people that are salt and pepper, but that's not the consensus. So I do think we, we hone in on the ones that's working really well for. And we build a whole. But I guess percentage wise, we're going, I would say more men are appreciated with gray hair than women. Yes, totally agree. Yeah. We pulled it right out. Did you say that? I don't want any reminders of that. Okay. There's a very classic

fable about the king with a gray hair. The second king shows a gray hair. He has to start a sanction or whatever. It is the succession. Oh, say like living in fear of this gray hair. How does

you know, you never had to read this in an electric class? I think you brought this up a far

way, but I don't really impact, but I can remember. I don't remember. Yeah. Anyway, look, this is life. We age. That just remind me of something nice. Oh, I know what. I want to talk about one juicy thing. I just, or do you want to talk more about your wrinkle? No. Okay. I know. Okay. I just, I understand. I started the Murdock doc. Have you? I started it last night. Okay. But I only got a few minutes saying because I decided to watch the pit instead. Okay. It's unbelievable. Okay. Like we all have

been told succession is based on that family. Yes, the show. But if you watch this doc, you can't imagine how exact plot point by plot point. It is all the exact same. Whoa. It's crazy. It's one of the craziest dots. So they had access, like, how did they know all the little detail? People have just been reporting on that family. So thoroughly. Right. And when different family members are out, they tend to talk more and then they're re-engratiated. They're given another role than they sing

β€œthe party line and they're out. Yeah. I really want to interview. What's the one brother's name?”

There's Lachlan and then the other brother. Which one? Middle, the young brother. The King, the Kieran Kulken. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Lachlan, James. James. I really want to interview James. Murdock. Because he's more of a rascal. He was like the smartest, the smarter of the two boys. He actually ran divisions successfully. Lachlan had a much more checkered track record. Uh-huh. James won. Didn't want to keep Fox News as conservative as it was in the wake of Bill O'Reilly, Roger

Al's. All these huge payouts and huge controversies they had. Yeah. And the defining moment was their coverage of Charlottesville. Oh. Yeah. And as wife said to him, if you're not going to push back

Against Nazis, who will you push back again?

So try. But they sued each other. They tried to change this irrevocable trust that was created. There was discovery and all their laundry had to come out in a renal courtroom. I mean, it's fucking mind blowing. Family drama. And that whole world news of the world, whatever that shithole magazine and England where they were hacking the the phones of like victims who had

β€œbeen killed. That's what unraveled. They had been hacking all of the royal family and prime”

ministers, but no one really cared in Jude Law who. Yeah. Uh-huh. And the public didn't really care when the elite were being fucked with. But then they were intercepting the voicemails from

this girl who had been kidnapped and was ultimately killed. And because they were racing,

I'm so more could come in. They were losing important information. Like the fucking private investigators at the journalist hired. We're racing emails from this victim to make room for more emails so they could keep reporting. So it was horrendous. And they did that to a bunch of different murder victims and kidnapped victims. So that's it that's tied into this. Well, they owned that. And James had just come into run world news. So then there was this huge public trial in England.

They ended up shutting down the entire publication and it was their most valuable asset that he

β€œfeel is he in it? Are they in it? The dog? No one sits for an interview, but they've been”

interviewed so much that they can play the interviews. I just wonder like, did he, yeah, what are his ethics during that? If he's, yeah, they're, they seem in there in and out. They're in and out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to play dad's game. Right. And then the daughter chef is the smartest of all of them. Brian Longshot. She's had so much independent success away from them. Mm-hmm. And it's just like the ship story. Yeah. She's like, she's the smartest and he just can't

see it because she's a, a woman. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's so juicy. That's cool. I'm going to watch that. I feel bad for all the kids to be honest. I mean, what, what, what, what a ride they were born into that they couldn't get off. I do like you're just a product of whatever family brought you home from the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. And you have this like incredibly powerful, smart, conniving father. Yeah.

β€œWho's quite good at creating animosity between the four of you to see all rising the top. Yeah. Yeah.”

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. And that way, yes. And the, and the leverage of money he constantly had, it's like, you might think you'd be above turning down a billion dollars. Right. Let's see if you would be. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. That is true. It's not the fun privilege life I would think being born into a billionaire family would be righteous. Say that. Yeah. I mean, you see it on that show. Like they're on

yachts. They're doing, they're doing the stuff that we're on some miserable. Yeah. I would never want to

be. Yeah. I guess that goes, I would never want to be one of them. So no, nor would I want my family dinner to be like this crazy game of thrones happening the whole time. Although you would like that because that's like fun and well I would try to be the try to get the iron throw. You're right. Okay. Speaking of dynasties. Yes. This is for Nate forgets. He's creating a dynastice. That's right. An empire. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You bring up the NFL player with one hand whose brother also played

in the NFL. She came and she killed Griffin. Are the NFL brothers famous for overcoming immense adversity. She came who had his left hand amputated age four. Do it a congenital condition. We came the first one handed player drafted into the modern NFL 2018. Joining is twin brothers. She killed with the Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. That's really cool. There's the most, well, it might have been a real sports. I don't know if it's a whole dock. Yeah. You said real sport.

Okay. And I made my children watch it. That's me. Didn't hit them. They take care of each other. I don't think you were seeing it down their throw. There babies. What's going on? Do you have

a sibling? You know, always protect yourself. They protect each other. Okay. Nate brings up

a Netflix documentary about drug lords and a woman from Compton who became the one of the biggest drug lords in the 1980s. Drug lords is the docu series on Netflix episodes called Jemiker Thompson. Crack Queen of LA. Crack Queen sounds good. No one's looking for that moniker. You want to be a lot of queens, but like Crack Queen is probably lowest if you pulled the nation. Yeah, but you can make a lot of money in fact. She did. It's yeah. It's good margins.

Almost as much as those Murdox. Yeah. Um, what year did Aubrey land close? The amusement park Nate worked at 1997. I remember Aubrey land being like a big deal.

Sure.

It was a little. Well, then we're not that good because I went to King's Island as a baby. And I

β€œremember I remember the beast. You can't forget the beast. I'm getting mixed up. The pit is making”

me a little mixed up. Okay. Because I almost said, did you hear about that? Oh, okay. Case.

The guy. You hear about those people who, who, the, the water slide that broke and people died.

β€œWait, this is real or the pit. No, it's the pit. But I, I'm sure it's happened. I'm sure it's happened.”

And it really got in there. It really got in that knocking in a mind as real. Yeah.

What were you going to do? I'm going to save cardigans. I need some plans and plays. They just,

β€œthey do that show and such a honest telling. Yeah. Yeah. Good as to the pit. Very similar to”

it's off the church. It really is a great show. All right. Well, that's it for Nate. Those were the facts. Yeah. Those were the facts. This kind of a couple references from Netflix. Docs. Sure. Sure. All right. Love you. Love you.

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