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- Two percent, that's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available.
On Michael Leister, and on my podcast, 2 percent,
I break down the signs of mental toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern worry. - Put yourself through some hardships, and you will come out on the other side, a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person.
Listen to 2 percent, that's TWO percent, on the eye-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever. You get your podcasts. - On the look-back at a podcast. - Next to 79, that was Big Mama for me.
- 84 is big to me. - I'm Sam Jay, and I'm Alex Englisch. - Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.
- With our friends, federal comedians, and favorite others. Like Mark Lehmont Hill, on the 80s. - It goes a wild year. - It goes a wild year.
“- I don't think there's a more important year for Black people.”
- Listen to look back at it on the eye-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Wealth, with John Ho Bryant, I sit down with Tiffany, the Budget Nesta, Alicia, to talk about what it really takes
to take control of your money. - What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they're no longer here? - We break down budgeting, financial discipline,
and how to build real wealth starting with the mindset shifts
too many of us were never ever taught.
If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Wealth with John Ho Bryant, from the Black effect network on the eye-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- Wealthairls, big money players, and eye-heart podcast presents soccer moms. - So I'm Lee Ann. This is my best friend, Janet. - Hey. - And we have been joined at the hips in size before. - Absolutely.
- A redacted amount of years later. We're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips. - This is a podcast we're recording it as we tailgate.
“Are you soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey?”
- With all the snacks and drinks. - Why? - Did you get heart-cells or instead of beer? - They had a bogo. - I don't think you can. - Listen to soccer moms, I mean, eye-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- Hi everyone, it's Andrea. I wanted to introduce you to one of my favorite people on the planet, and the host of a new podcast, I think you'll love. - Burning of Guilt Season 2, meet my mentor, friend, boss, and the executive producer on Betrayal, Nancy Glass.
- So excited to work with you. - Me too, I love this season, it's just so exciting. And you're here to tell us about it. It's an unbelievable story that you've been reporting on. I've been working on it, but I've also been listening on the feed,
and I don't want to give too much away, but I'll say this for people who don't know the story. It's about two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumprape, who accuses the other domain Hudson of a violent crime.
But it's not at all what it seems at first, right? - That's right. - What about Burning of Guilt Season 2, aligns with the Betrayal audience? What do you think this season has that you think
“the Betrayal community would really find fascinating or enjoy?”
- That's a very good question. In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about. And there was a massive injustice in this story
when Germaine Hudson was identified as the perpetrator. - This man was put away and lost half of his life, because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing.
But what's worse is, he was convicted of a crime that never happened.
He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years. - It's astonishing. But the story of this crime in Louisiana doesn't end there, eventually all the lies come to light,
and I'm curious what part of this story really surprised you? - The twists and turns are so strange, and the ultimate of this story is how the man, Bobby, who accused Germaine, his life, was destroyed by his choice. And then what he did to turn it around,
and how hard that was on every level. - I think what's so interesting about this season of "Bird and of Gilt"
Is this is something we actually talk a lot about on the trial.
We don't get to report on a redemption arc for any of our offenders.
I would love to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition or a men's in one of our betrayal stories, but so far they haven't existed. - These bad guys, they don't apologize. They are not interested in redemption,
'cause they don't think they did anything wrong. - And in "Bird and of Gilt" season two, that's a very different story. - It's a really interesting story, but I think what's just as interesting
is the character of these two men. - I don't think we've produced a better show
with cliffhangers than season two of "Bird and of Gilt."
Every episode you're just on the edge of your seat, and I have to say I just love, love, love this season.
“And I think you guys did an incredible job.”
- Thank you, Tray. - So here's this sneak peek of "Bird and of Gilt" season two with Nancy Glass. (gentle music) - I'm Nancy Glass.
I've been a journalist for decades. I've covered some of the biggest crime stories in modern times. I was on the scene of the Oklahoma bombings, attended the O.J. Simpson trial, and I interviewed serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.
You might recall that on the last season of "Bird and of Gilt," we told the story of a remarkable woman, Tracy Raquel Burns. She was framed for the murder of her baby brother when she was just two years old. She spent decades looking for answers
“and finally getting justice for her baby brother and for herself.”
On this season of "Bird and of Gilt," I want to tell you another extraordinary story. When I began hearing about this story, I thought I've heard that before that somebody's convicted of a crime that didn't commit.
But I was wrong, because that's not this story.
This is something different, something I hope I never hear again.
This case has stolen lives to destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the end, it left everyone transformed. Maybe even redeemed. - I didn't mean this not to stop giving praise now.
- We're at True Light Baptist Church in Yunus. It's a small town in the southern part of Louisiana known as the Prairie Cagian Capital. Every Sunday for 125 years, the congregation has met here in the same building.
- Money. Yes, or can buy a clock. - Wait, you came by your time. - A true pastor will care for his congregation. The pastor's responsibility is to shepherd the flock.
- That's Pastor Germaine, Tezano. He's been leading the congregation at True Light for 30 years. It's the kind of church where everyone knows everyone. - Amen. - Which is why Pastor Tezano remembers this one Sunday so clearly.
It was in March of 2021, when he looked up from the pulpit, he saw a stranger sitting alone in the back pew. - I noticed somebody in the congregation sitting
“and in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, who invited you?”
- He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken. - He was broken, but it would be years before the pastor understood why,
or what had compelled this man to walk into his church that day. - Pastor Tezano, I'd him closely. You are Caucasian and you are in the majority of American church like what's your intentions. - Pastor Tezano's thoughts jumped to the church shooting
at Mother Emanuel AMA Church in Charleston. In that case, a 21-year-old white man had been welcomed into Bible study only to later murder nine black parishioners hoping to spark a race war. - And my think was light.
It's not going to be in that here.
I would die for my sheep.
- Pastor Tezano finished his sermon,
“keeping an eye on this man in the back row.”
And when the service was over, he walked up to the stranger and extended a hand. I just shook his hand, I said, "Can you meet me in my office?" - The man agreed and they went into the pastor's office. Tezano asked one of his ministers,
Dr. Leon Gallo, to join the conversation just to be safe. - Rightfully so, because this was definitely someone no one had ever seen. - Pastor Tezano and Dr. Leon learned that the man was homeless
and had spent the night before in an abandoned house.
They wanted to help him. Dr. Leon stepped out of the room to start calling local shelters. The man was having a hard time making eye contact with Pastor Tezano. So, he asked the man for his name. - He told me Bobby Gumright.
- Bobby Gumright, that was his real name, but he didn't say much else. We knew that he was an addict. We knew that he was traveling from place to place, but didn't really know a whole lot more.
- Bobby Gumright was actually there with a purpose. - So he asked me the question, "Do you do confessions?" I said, "Well, I'm not Catholic, but I'm like, "What's on your mind?"
“He was carrying a secret, a secret so terrible”
if felt like a thousand pound weight pressing down on his chest. - He needed to make that confession. - After 30 years on the job, Pastor Tezano had heard a lot of stories, but what Bobby Gumright told him left him speechless. - I really didn't respond too much because I was in shock.
- Pastor Tezano didn't know what to do with information like this. Bobby had just confessed to a terrible crime, a crime that had destroyed lives, including his own. The pastor would need time to make a plan, but in the meantime, he could help Bobby with his immediate needs.
- I said, "No, let's get you somewhere to stay overnight." - There wasn't room in a shelter for him that night, so Pastor Tezano and Dr. Leon picked up some essentials and paid for a hotel room at the day's in. He could take a shower and get a good night's sleep.
- After we got him the hotel, we got him in a circle and we prayed for him. And I told him, "I want to check on you the next day tomorrow." - I went out and went back the next morning. The hotel management said he loved.
I was like, "What?"
“- When Bobby left his secret left with him”
and until this story was exposed, another man's life would hang in the balance. (dramatic music) - This is season two of Burden of Guild.
Episode one, the first confession.
It's been over four years since Bobby Gumprite walked into that church. Back then, he had long greasy hair and a full beard. Today, Bobby looks dramatically different. He looks clean, cut, and healthy,
but the choices he made as a young man are still there, just under the surface. To understand what Bobby confessed to inside that church, we have to go back to the beginning of this story. Now, you might consider what you're about to hear
to be a villain-origin story. It might be a blueprint for the making of a monster. You might hear this as the story of a little boy who didn't get the love he needed. Or maybe you'll consider it to be a story of strength
and redemption. Meet Bobby Gumprite. - I grew up in a military family. My dad was in a Navy. He was out to see quite a bit when I was real young.
- Robert Gumprite, Bobby's father, was a respected Navy captain.
- I was working on a four-year craft ship
as an electronics technician. - That's Captain Gumprite, Bobby's dad.
“In 1979, he married Debbie and Bobby was born a year later.”
His voice is very weak due to an earlier cancer treatment. And because of that strain, we asked a voice actor to step in from here on out and read the transcript of his interview. - He's my only son and I made a choice way back
when that I would never have any more children, other than him.
So he's always had my love and full support. - But his parents didn't stay together. They got divorced when Bobby was three. Captain Gumprite got full custody of his son, Bobby. - I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s.
- As a kid, Bobby didn't understand where his mom had gone and why she wasn't around anymore. - My dad, at that point, had decided that it wasn't in my best interest to see her. So I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Virginia Beach,
Virginia, which is where he was stationed, between the ages of like three and eight.
“Bobby was deeply wounded by his mother's absence.”
His father tried to fill the gap the best he could.
- I remember when he was very young
and I was running him out to the childcare in the morning and I'd say, "Who loves you?" And he'd say, "You do." And I'd say, "Yeah, I do. I love you."
And he would give me a big hug. When Bobby was six, his father remarried. His stepmother's name was Sharon. - She didn't have any other kids, so I was the only thing that she had.
- Sharon raised Bobby. She tried to fill in the role of a mother and love him unconditionally. But when Bobby was an elementary school,
something tragic happened in their home,
a formative experience that would shape Bobby's worldview and influence the person he became. - Around eight years old, I was at home with a friend of mine. You know, it was the afternoon.
“My mom, I think, was at school and my dad was at work.”
And this was a friend of mine. A Joey, we were just playing after school. We played baseball together. And he was just in the same neighborhood. And one day he was at my house and we got into my dad's room
and found a gun and pulled the gun out and started running around the house with it. Got down stairs. We had a living room downstairs and a sliding glass door that went out to the back porch.
And he went outside and shut the door. And I was standing on the inside of the door. The glass door. And I was kind of holding the gun like pretend and he was the robber.
And I was the cop and I jumped out. And as soon as I jumped out, I don't know if I pulled the trigger or my finger slipped, I didn't know it was loaded. But either way, the gun went off. And shattered the door.
And he was on the ground. Thanks so much for listening. Now you can binge the entire series and hear the whole story. Listen to season two of Bird Nive Gilt available
on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - Two percent. That's the number of people who take the stairs when there is also an escalator available.
I'm Michael Leister. And I'm my podcast, two percent. I've worked on the signs of mevel toughness, fitness, and building resilience in our strange modern morning. Put yourself through some hardships.
And you will come out on the other side a happier, more fulfilled, healthier person. - Listen to two percent. That's TWO percent on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- On the look back at it podcast. - Next to 79, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. - I'm Sanjay, and I'm Alex E. Grish. - On each episode, we pick a year,
unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. - With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors, like Mark Lamont Hill, on the 80s. - There he goes, wow, it's wild, wild, yeah.
- I don't think there's a more important year
for black people.
“- Listen to look back at it on the I-Hart Radio app,”
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
- On a recent episode of the podcast, Money and Well, for John Hill Bryant, I sit down with Tiffany the budget needs to unleash it, to talk about what it really takes, to take control of your money.
- What would that look like in our families
if everyone was able to pass on wealth to the people when they no longer here?
“- We break down budgeting, financial discipline,”
and how to build real wealth, starting with the mindset shifts,
too many of us were never, ever taught.
If you've ever felt you didn't get the memo on money, this conversation is for you to hear more. Listen to Money and Well, with John Hill Bryant, from the Black Effect Network on the I-Hart Radio app,
“Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.”
- Will Ferrell's big money players and I-Hart Podcast presents soccer moms. - So I'm Leanne, this is my best friend, Janet. - Okay. - And we have been joined at the hips and size forms.
- A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips. - This is the podcast we're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games
in the back of my hand to Odyssey. - With all the snacks and drinks. - Why? - I get hard-seller instead of beer. - They had a bogo.
- Well, I'm going to be done. - Listen to soccer moms. I mean, I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. - This is an I-Hart Podcast, guaranteed human.
