The Nurses

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Please take care while listening. What did I say? A very traumatized woman, young woman, some due destroyed. My heart was not to be sat in from day one. And it was an eye out now. There was people there that thought she was guilty, and there had come. And there were people there that believed that she was innocent and wanted to see themselves.

This is a woman we are calling "Beth." She has a special connection to Lucy Lappy. You see, "Beth" spent her career in the Neo-Natal Unit at Chester,

“retiring only a couple of years before Lucy was arrested.”

Beth attended every day of Lucy Lappy's second trial, "The Retrial for Baby K." "I really, really am so angry that these parents have been put through so much. I lost a baby, and I know what it's like. If I had to go through what they went through, and then have a policeman knock on my door and say, "We think your baby is murdered." In the cacophony of voices swirling around the story of Lucy Lappy,

in every screaming headline every panel of experts in all the police conferences,

there was one group of people who never seemed to rise above the fray.

A group of people who would have known more than anyone, what Lucy's life was like, and would have possibly been able to tell a different story, or fill in some blanks. Lucy's fellow nurses. They've been silenced. They've been playing now, but next time, it might be done.

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I've never met a nurse that's coming to work to arm a patient.

I mean, absolutely devastated.

“Beth took care of the sickest babies for around 40 years.”

The job in the hospital is very, very stressful. It changes throughout the day. You may be quiet at one point, then suddenly an emergency happens, and you know, it's all hands to the deck. People rushing around everywhere.

Patients care is paramount. Good patient care is paramount, and I don't know a nurse. Never met a nurse. It hasn't wanted to give her best to those patients. But they still try and put that smile on the face.

And, you know, I don't see anyone going into the profession of nursing unless they really want to do that job. It's not a job that you would do to earn a wage. It's a job you do because you'll enjoy what you're doing. Those that knew Lucy say that she loved being a nurse,

that she dreamed of being one since she was a kid, and that she was a good one, too. Which, of course, meant that the arrests and the two trials that ended in guilty convictions were even harder to understand.

When Lucy was first arrested, I was in the hospital that day, if I think.

And the TV cameras were everywhere, and no to was saying what was going on. So I had to wait until the news. When the news came on, I found that a nurse, a new naked nurse, had been arrested, allegations of harm and babies. Now, something just didn't sit right with me.

It just sat very, very awkward to blink. Better took that feeling and did something with it. I'm reading everything I can get of the journalist's reports, because I don't want to miss anything. It became obvious to me that it was multifaceted.

The problems there were not just one problem. There were lots of problems surrounding it, which were causing these increasing deaths.

“And you have to get to the bottom of why this is happening,”

so that you can put it right. Loom from it and put it right. It was because of this unease that Beth and a fellow nurse friend felt compelled to sit through Lucy's retrial. Well, me, it was Manchester, so it was fairly close.

And we decided that we wanted to go and all of this case. So we went and there's quite a lot of nurses there. And we sat in from day one. And it was an eye out now. Before the trial, Lucy was guilty.

The second trial offered an opportunity to hear the evidence for herself.

Maybe she'd hear something that made sense of the verdicts. But it wasn't clear. There was no factual evidence at all. Where is the evidence that puts her at fault here that she's harmed this baby?

There's lots of things happened before she came on duty that you can't put that blame on her. So those of us that were lintress watching, listening to what was happening, could see that there was a lot of red flags appearing.

To me, the evidence was there. To prove her innocence, I could see it. Most of us with a medical knowledge could see it. I just think it's just absolute rubbish. People are going to nurse them.

Going to nursing because they want to help people. They want to... They're caring individuals.

I mean, it's always caring people who get locked up in prison.

It's really, really scary. It's very scary.

“It's a bit like the old 16th century witch hunts, isn't it?”

I think people get ideas in their heads. And once you've got an idea in your head, you can't get rid of it. Like Beth, Michelle Warden spent her career in the neonatal field.

I was the advanced neonatal nurse practitioner at the contest of Chester Hospital. In the years, leading up to Lucy's arrest, Michelle had a front row seat to the changes in funding, and ultimately the care at the counters of Chester.

I went to work on the unit in 1988, and where and tear was beginning to show even back then. By the time you get to the time of the indictment in 2015, this is a very tired unit with problems with the plumbing,

problems with the sinks and the taps,

sometimes not working properly, not being able to get hot water.

“And it wasn't just true in the neonatal unit.”

It was throughout the women and children's hospital. Labour Ward had as many problems as did the Gini Wards and the pediatric Wards. But it was a very old tired building. Along with the physical problems,

Michelle says that a lack of funding affected the working environment at the counters, including the number of experienced nurses on staff. In 2011, Michelle and five other senior nurses were laid off. Nurses were dispensed with under the terminology of restructuring, but in actual fact, it was cost cutting.

And then they employed eight nursery nurses. A nursery nurse simply means that they solely worked in the nursery, and only had child care qualifications. They would have needed to be supervised to perform any clinical tasks, usually by a registered nurse.

Now, we've always had nursery nurses on the unit,

and they have a valid role to play,

“but they should be there to enhance the role of a registered nurse,”

not to replace the registered nurse. So, by the time you got to the indictment period, I think it was the perfect storm. You had very few really senior nurses. You had very few registered nurses on duty.

You had nursery nurses who were being asked to care for babies beyond their level of competency. You had consultants who were never there. If you take a loose say, Lucy was employed in Chester in 2012.

There was two newly qualified straight-out of university registered nurses employed. Lucy being one of them. By the time we get to the indictment period in 2015, which is only three years, they're saying she's really senior. You cannot compare three years experience with somebody like me

who had 30 years experience.

“I cannot think of any profession where you would be deemed to be senior”

after three years post-grad. And there was evidence that those inexperienced nurses were buckling under the pressure. Well, we know from emails that have now been released. By the time you got to 2015, December,

one of the consultants was writing to management saying, "The staff are in tears. The workload is overwhelming. We know in December 2015 this unit was only funded for 16 cops. So it had three intensive care. Four high dependents say and the rest were special care cops.

But there was at least two occasions in December 2015 where they had 20 and 21 babies. So they were running out of incubators. They were running out of basic equipment. They were taking more babies than they really had cops for.

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"Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts." These problems were also noted by the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health. A 2016 report found that staffing levels were inadequate, and perhaps most revealing.

They noted that it wasn't just the neonatal ward that had an increased mortality rate in 2015. The maternity ward, where Lucy Letbe did not work, also had elevated rates of stillbirth. That makes me wonder if the problem was bigger than just one bad nurse.

“Was this a problem across the entire maternity unit?”

Well, according to the Royal College of Pediatrics, the cause of increased deaths in the neonatal ward were systemic issues like crumbling infrastructure and staffing shortages. To date, the Countess of Chester Hospital has been very guarded about this data. "On the austerity of hitting all public services,

and not at a major impact on the NHS as the home." So Chester was no different. Beth was working through this belt tightening time as well. She also witnessed the crumbling infrastructure and the lack of updated equipment and the staffing shortages.

"We've got to work within your financial constraints, which means that some things have to go. So training is cooked to the quick. Staff, we tend to work on low levels of staff, and then the stress levels start rising.

Staff goes sick. So they become more dependent on banking agencies to fill those shifts. You don't have that thing continuity. So over time standards start to fall.

It's gradual, but they fall. And you'll find staff going home at the day in tears. Absolutely in tears, because they've not been able to, in their eyes, deliver the standard of care that they've been trained and want to give them."

This question around staffing was something that statistician professor Jane Hutton looked at when she had originally been approached by the police

“to help them create that all important chart.”

However, Jane was quickly dropped from the investigation when she disagreed with the police's approach. She has since gone on to be one of the many voices questioning the validity of the statistical evidence against Lucy.

of the advanced nurse practitioners, whom you supposed to have, if you try to run a unit like this,

and they went there. So you'd be getting the most experienced person. And obviously the sick patients tend to be given if you were a choice, the most experienced doctors and nurses. The other thing that chart doesn't show is who wasn't there.

“Which is important, because of course you might like to know about the doctors as well as the nurses.”

But the doctors were only doing two more rounds a week. They should have been doing two more rounds a day. That information clearly is very important to where the baby is dying, because the consultants weren't getting around to caring for them.

For Jane, the issues brought up in the report by the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health

pointed to a much bigger problem at Chester Hospital. When the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health was asked in to carry out a review, they found 23 major failings with the unit. They were also told by the doctors of the doctors that there was suspicious of Lettby, and they said there was no evidence to support that suspicion.

But that's where you got the comment on the lack of consultant ward rounds, and the lack of communications, a lot of other problems. That report recommended her more detailed investigation, which Jane Horton did, a near-natal consultant, and in the 17 cases she looked at, I don't know how those cases were selected, she found major or substantial clinical

that is medical failings in 14 out of the 17.

So to my mind, that gives you a set of possible explanations for the events that you should consider. Within this swirl of problems and stress, humans make mistakes, and that includes nurses. But when you have an institution that is fighting tooth and nail for every penny they can get,

people start to protect themselves, their jobs and their positions, leading to a culture of fear, and the lack of willingness to be open about mistakes.

“If we're honest, how many of us likes admitting we've got something wrong?”

How many of us, consultant's management, would much rather find somebody to blame? You know, let's be honest, this is not a matter of aren't they terrible, and we're perfect, none of us is perfect. And for bath? If you've got a really thick patience, on that patient dies, they're terrified

that somebody's going to come along and point a finger and try and blame you for somebody's death. You know, you see nurses dealing with emergency situations and their calm and their cool. That is because they're trained to stand back, let the emotion get in the way, and you deal with that case in principle, that emergency in front of you. You just get on and you calm me, do the work.

You then afterwards you can go and cry. And it is a difficult job, it's a very rewarding job, but it just comes with its trauma as well. Nobody wants to lose a patient. And sometimes many times the nurses will sit there after the emergency situation

where they've lost a patient, and the question themselves and say, "Is there something I missed? Did I miss anything?" "Could I have done something differently?" Because nobody wants to lose a patient. It's a massive impact on care because they will be too frightened,

but you'll find to speak out. That is exactly what drove Jenny Harris away from her work as a neonatal nurse with the NHS after 18 years. It's like a roller coaster of emotions on the neonatal unit, it really is. And I think you could experience every emotion in one shift to be honest.

And I can't wait humans at the end of the day out where we've got hearts.

“That's why we want to be neonatal nurses because we care for these babies and these families.”

That drive, that love for the job. Jenny says that it can only take you so far. Years of funding cuts, staff shortages, and a culture of blame can make even the most loving and professional nurse rethink her role. The management support is not really there.

You're not appreciated. You're not thanked. You're just blamed for things. The bullying is horrendous. I had to see the psychologist once a week just to get through the week

It's just not worth it.

“But it was the loosely let be case that really pushed Jenny to walk away from the NHS.”

Because I was just like this could it. I know people say all the time,

but this could have easily have been me. Because I'm an eunuch nurse. I look after babies that have died. Babies have died on my shift. Babies have died whilst I've been caring for them. Jenny felt especially knocked off guard when she heard about some of the evidence used to convict Lucy. One of those were the hand over notes found under Lucy's bed.

Hand over notes are written by nurses at the end of their shift. Recording what Kara Baby has received and flagging anything the next nurse needs to know. I've taken hand over notes home. I've done it for many reasons, especially when I was in the first few years of being an eunuch on this. I would take mom by accident.

I see a lot of similarities with me in Lucy in the way from what I've heard. I don't know Lucy, but I used to keep a lot of the hand over notes and even like other bits and pieces.

She says that taking those papers home was never malicious.

Neither was looking at patient families on Facebook just like Lucy did. Because you want to see that the family are okay. Because you're not allowed to contact them. You're not allowed to have the phone number. Imagine caring for a baby for a few weeks.

You've really got to know the parents well. You've built up a relationship with them. The baby dies. Nurses need closure too. We need closure as much as the mother as much as the parents do. But you know what I mean, we need closure too.

And if that's her way of getting closure, then I don't understand what the problem is. And those suspicious post-it notes? Jenny was also encouraged by her therapist to write things down as a way of coping with the stress of the job. For example, I had a call belief that I was worthless and I was a bad person. There was no evidence that I was a bad person.

“That's what I flew through my therapist.”

But I was to write that down. And I would write down, I'm worthless, I'm a bad person. But I'm not a bad person. But just because I wrote it down doesn't mean it's true. But as soon as I heard that she'd written these post-it notes, I was like,

Well, I've done that because my therapist told me to do it. Jenny says it was the death of one particular baby that scared her the most. And I was distraught. Like it was natural cause if it wasn't anything like that. But straight away, my management was like, well, why didn't you do this? Why didn't you do that? You should have done this, you should have done that.

Nor support that I've just gone through this massive audio that was very traumatic. It was just why did you do that? You should have done that, you shouldn't have done this. And I sat there and I thought, if there was anything about it, luckily we did a post-mortem and everything with natural causes. But imagine if it wasn't been on there to be something else that they thought was suspicious.

It's just, it's not even worth thinking about. And that was like, literally, like, my final, I was like, that's it. I can't do this anymore. It's just too much now. Beth, the former neonatal nurse who retired from the countess, knows that Jenny isn't the only nurse who felt that way.

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Listen to The Girl Friends. Trust me, babe. On the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I went and sat on the little Ottoman in front of him. I said, "Hi dad." And just what I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen.

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We have to be willing to live with a kind of uncertainty that none of us likes. Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeart Radio app. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Waves through the entire UK healthcare system. With the tremors we feel today.

Reveal deeper fractures that have been building for years. We are seeing a profession in fear. Nurses, doctors and healthcare workers. Or we've lost their voice. Lost their confidence in speaking truth.

To power and lost faith in the very systems designed to protect both patients and practitioners. And the tremors. They go even further than those who work within the system. Jenny says parents. They felt it too.

It's like they start trusting us. A lot of them. We've even had parents and family members saying to us. We have to be careful now because of what you feel like. They even used her name to us.

And things that we used to do without the parents around. Now we've had complaints. You can't do that to my baby without me. There I need to be watching what you're doing and what you're giving. It makes you job harder and it makes you feel horrible.

Because it's like how can people not trust me with their babies. And actually some of the time is putting their babies actually at more risk. Like I had a mum that refused to let any nurse near her baby. She would only let the doctors. And I'm not saying the doctors can't do anything.

But the things that this baby needed.

“I think that the nurse is doing day in day out.”

And the doctors don't do very often because the nurse is doing it. So then I'll have a solution for that. I want the doctor to do it. And I try to explain I was like, this is something I do every day. The doctor will do it maybe once every few months.

But it didn't matter. She didn't want the nurse near her baby. Nursing shortages are not unique to the UK. Low pay, long hours, stressful shifts. It's a common refrain around the world.

But you add the idea of a serial killer nurse into the mix. And for some, especially those that work at the countess. The toll is personal.

we really want her to be acquitted, but are they going to come after us?

So who's going to speak out?

“Another one of them said to me, Michelle, you don't.”

And we've had eight years of hell. You know, they've been told they can't. They can't converse with each other. They can't meet Lucy. They were friends with Lucy.

Some of them were on holiday with Lucy. Some of them since, apparently, from the guilty verdict coming in, have completely broken contact with Lucy. Beth and Jenny and Michelle are just three nurses out of thousands in the UK who have concerns about this case.

So social media came very, very active.

And it ended up with three groups, there was the guilty group sitting on the fence group and the innocent group. And it started to get quite vocal.

“So I distance myself from it along with my friend Bertie.”

And we set up a group for people to discuss the cases. And through that, we've come to meet an awful lot of people from the medical professions. Not just nurses. You know, a lot of people profess as specialists in their fields.

So we've been able to talk a lot amongst ourselves. We sat a group, it was a close group.

And we found, as well, when we started looking at indefinitely this,

that there were so many nurses that were too frightened to speak out, it turns out the doctors as well. There are quite a few that we've been told of still frightened to speak out. This group, it's called 19 nurses. It's a place where medical professionals can ask questions

about the Lucy let-be case anonymously. They are also working with Lucy's new lawyer on a judicial review of her case. And they support whistleblowers, and nurses who worry their rights may have been violated.

There's a lot of anger out there.

“I think one of the things this case is really on earth is”

how medical cases, how complex they are, and that we really should not be investigated by police. And that the judicial system itself needs a complete overhaul. We must confront uncomfortable truths. Our healthcare system has developed toxic tendency

to seek individual blame rather than address systemic failure. When something goes wrong, and healthcare things inevitably do go wrong, there is often a rush to find someone to hold accountable. Someone to punish, someone to sacrifice on the altar of public accountability.

Michelle Warden agrees. Things happen in garages when you're repairing a car. Why in earth would people think that it's not going to happen in a hospital? But the important thing is, is to recognize it. Not to call the person out for making that mistake,

because then they just go, I'm not going to say anything when it happens again. I'm going to push it underground, but to address how you can improve the system, I don't know why these consultants got the idea that it was a nurse as opposed to a system failure or suboptimal care.

There is very much an ethos in the United Kingdom of doctors of God. You don't question a doctor. You believe them. I loved nursing. Would I do it again?

No, no, I know now. Next time on doubt, the case of Lucy Ladby. We did not find any murders. In all cases, death or injury were due to natural causes or just bad medical care.

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