Da'Vine Joy Randolph

Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of GoodHang.

“We are going to talk today to Dave Vine, Joy Randolph,”

and I am really, really excited. I'm such a fan of her work, and we are going to get into it today. We're going to talk about Opera. We're going to talk about musical theater. We're going to talk about how to do a good Boston accent.

And we're going to hear how Al Pacino made her cry in a good way. So it's a great convo, and I can't wait to get started.

But before we do, we always talk to somebody who knows our guest,

and has a question to ask our guest, and joining me today, is a director of the film Eternity, a film that Dave Vine is in. And I believe he is calling from another country. He's zooming from another country, another time zone. So let's see, it's David Frain joining us, David, can you hear us?

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Hi, so nice to meet you. So good to meet you. We're talking to Daveine today, and it's fun, because Daveine, I have to say is one of, I really don't know very much about her.

We've never met, and we have friends in common and people in common,

but I've only kind of watched her as a fan and watched her stuff. So I'm interested to get to know her today and to talk about her today. But before we do that, I just wanted to say congratulations on your film. And it's, you know, I'm always looking for comedy in theaters and in film. It's been not to be very honest, not always the easiest genre of the last decade to get good

things out in the world, and comedy is like music. It's so subjective, people have big strong opinions about it. How, where did you, where were your comedic influences, like when you started writing and directing, who were you looking to at the time? I grew up loving Billy while there was my idol.

So in, and then like, I mean, turkey rock and parks and rack and those just great iconic, kind of TV comedies were where you get such a high joke, raced per minute, which I think we don't get very often.

So I always looked at that.

I think with eternity, we wanted to make sure it was like late and down with jokes, just like joke after joke after joke, because I kind of, I miss really hard comedy. And I think that, like, segue into divine and my incredible cast. That just goes, you can write as good as you want, but that's the deliberate, that's the actors. And, and, you know, some of the best dramatic actors in the world cannot land the joke.

“And I think that's what we really want to do.”

Well, they better not. I mean, God is fair. You can't do it all. Before we get to Dave, I'm one last question, and I feel we can always, if it's too personal, of course, we can lose it.

But you shared a really personal and intense story about your health journey after writing this film that feels like it is completely attached to and tied to the bigger idea that you're writing about. Yeah. So in the summer, like at six months ago, I had really bad headaches.

So I had during the production as well. Like, I would work really hard and then collapse on the weekends, but I got, they found an apple-sized tumour in my head that had kind of, kind of, broken through my brain and surrounded my optic nerves and crotted arteries. And, like, it was, it was a really surreal, devastating thing to go through.

And at the start, they didn't know if it was going to be kind of upper bull or malignant or, and my immediate thought were like, I'm not going to get to see eternity released, which is such a vague thing to say, but you know, after so many years. But, you know, I had incredible care and doctors and incredible family and my partner. And it's, you know, slowly it's gone better and I've had a great great income from the surgery.

And I will say, having gone through that in the last few months after making a film set in the

Like, I felt, I felt I was looking at debt with a lot more curiosity than fear.

I think I had, you know, I think I would have been much more afraid had it happened before the film. And I think just the experience of making the film was so fun and joyous. And I think the things we spoke about with, with divine and the cast and my passion just, like, as well, like, even just not just the work you want to do, but the people you want to spend your time with and the people you want to work with,

the working good people, kind people, people that share your kind of passions.

“I think that that becomes much more important because you don't really have time for”

our souls. No. I also don't have time for our souls either. Yeah, yeah, our souls are our souls, they're the worst. So, um, tell me about working with divine.

What, how does she like to work? Because we're talking her today and she's quite studied. I mean, she has done a ton of, she's like a, like a student in voice and acting. She really knows her stuff. Yeah, she's, she's, she's extraordinary. I think, um, I think what really struck,

like, me first see, I was, we were desperate to work with her and I really wanted her for the role.

And then she went to her Oscar and I was really bummed so now I won't get to work with her. But thankfully, she's still wanting to do the film. Um, but yeah, she's, she's had the most incredibly varied career from opera to theatre to, to then finding acting. And, and it does feel like she can do anything. I mean, I, you know, we knew, even though the hold of us as such a dramatic role, we knew she'd be really funny, but like she might be the

most naturally gifted comedian I've ever worked with. She's extraordinary. And it does feel effortless to her. Like, it doesn't feel like she has, like annoyingly, she seems to not have any of the, um, anguish and anxiety that most comedians I know have. Like, she just, she just is brilliant.

“And I think she may be kind, kind of, like, you know, she's brilliant. Yes, she's, she's, she's,”

she's extraordinary. She has, she comes to set and comes to everything with such a weird level of calm. She's completely unflabable, which I, like, she could come, like, the set could be on fire. And she'll just be like, okay, hey, Dave, what's going on? Are we going to evacuate? Are we going to shoot? Like, she's just extraordinary. Like, oh, I want to talk to her about that. That's really interesting. Like, nothing seems to either, either, she hides it very well or nothing phases her.

Or, um, would you, I find fascinating, because I'm phase by most things. Um, yeah, she's, she's, and like, she can kind, she's one of those people that I would put in the limits on. I think she can do. I think she can do anything as, as a performer, as an actor, as a comedian. Yeah, it's kind of almost infuriating how good she is. To be that good of an actor and to also be funny is, it's not nice. It's not nice for the rest of everybody, you know? Like, it's not fair.

So I would love to ask you, as I, as I have to remind here today, is your question, you think I should ask her, um, big or small, um, specific or, you know, um, existential, something that a story that you think she might want to tell or, um, something that you have yet to know about her that you'd like to have answered. I mean, I really want to know two things, is one is where did the calm she has come from? Because it's so, it's, it's so admirable to me. And I, I, I don't, I don't think you can be

born without it's something else. And the other thing is, because she's not such a varied career, is when did she know how funny she was? Like, when did she discover she was a comedian? Because it's not like she didn't do sketch comedy, really, or stand up. Like, when did she know she had that gift? Was that later in life? That she was like, oh, I'm really funny. Maybe I'll try that. So there are the two things I'd love to know because I haven't got that out of her.

Great questions both. I love to ask this to people when I'm on Zoom with them and they have books

“behind them. Will you just randomly pick one book out from behind you and tell us what the title is?”

What the title is? Yeah. And so I'm going to pick this one because my sister-in-law wrote the bonus of Beniti. The boldness of Betty? It's an amazing series of kind of YA books. They're

beautiful. Always looking for a new book. Thank you for that wreck. Yeah. Yeah. And also I just

got to check to make sure those books are real. No, I actually can't read. Yeah. It's just the covers. It's just the inside. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you so much, David. Such a pleasure talking to you.

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sparkling water. I love sparkling water. Me too. And why can't we drink it anymore? You said we can't

drink it. My doctor said I'm on the verge of having a hernia because of so much of the like

bubbles in those alkaline. It's something stuff in it. But you said something that you said that's my coffee. That is my coffee. That's mine. That's my cocktail. That's my cocktail. Like a when you open up the bottle and it's like Piss. I know. It does squeeze the lime in there. And you know it's fascinating how in Europe they have percentages of this. Don't even give me started. Also, how do you feel about your sparkling water? Because I get the big bottles. But then I don't

only drink like half of it. And then it's done. It's dead. A dead spark. So what I do is I poured in a fancy like wine glass. So that's funny that you say cocktails. I immediately twist it up. Yeah,

really tight. Yeah, really tight. It's like I want to cut my fingers. Super tight. Put that

bad boy back in the fridge. I put my salsa waters in a wine cooler chest. I have a wine cool chest. This is how much I revere. Me too. I completely, completely to me. In the same way, one would be like, Oh, no, I got to make sure that there's wine in my fridge. I panic if there's not a sparkling water situation in my fridge. I know. And some brands are hard to get the boxes of. Right. I have fought many of clerks. And most of the farms because they're like, no, no,

ma'am, you can't take that whole box. So I'm like, then you shouldn't have had it out here. Also, have you ever been real bougie and ordered it from, oh, I don't know, like a delivery service. And then I'll send you get the heaviest box that you had to carry in your house and your, it's filled with

“sparkling water. This is me. That success is if you're on postmates and you tell them to get the”

water for you and you want the 33.5 fluid ounces. And they'll show up with a 22 or 16. And I'm like, you should have called me because then I would have said, yeah, don't get them. Or how many of the 33 did you have? For, okay, just get those and then go to the next Crystal Farms and get the other ones. I found out recently, you can't get light bulbs delivered anymore. Why? They won't take the risk. Like they're like, they're like, it's going to show, they're like, we, it's going to break. And it's like,

what? What do you mean? People get in soft down here. I don't like that light bulbs. It's not even on. I mean, I have to say, I do love ordering things and then like putting it out of my mind and then when a package comes, I'm like, what is this? I, and I think I'm like, what is it? What couldn't be? And it's like the best Chris has ever been. No, it's the best. It's the spatula that I wanted. Yes, exactly. No need to go. Yeah, and it shows up and you're like, oh my gosh, I was really in

Costco yesterday. And I was going past the, the mixers. But yeah, right? Like the, the mixers. What is that? Like tableware? I don't know what it's called. Yeah, I love kitchenware tableware. I could. So I went

“past, and I was like, gosh, it's on sale. I want one. And I literally remembered. Because life is”

life thing. No, no, no, babes. You ordered one for black Friday already. And I was almost cried with excitement. I couldn't believe it. I was like, oh, no, it was crazy. It was crazy. That's a weird life is right now. I love kitchen gear. So much. It's like a treat. I sometimes I go past the wall of gadgets. I'm like, okay, I have a garlic press. I have a wood mallet, okay, I have a zester, I have, and I'm like, what do I need for my collection? And then I'm big on aesthetics. So the

mixer I got, have you seen it? It's like the limited collection from William and Sonoma. Not a sponsor. Okay, talk me through this. What you got? Hunter Green. Oh, with a dark, mahogany wood mixing bowl. Holy shit. Oh, wooden. Oh, wow. So we're talking kitchen aid. Yeah. Oh, wow. Yeah. And I forgot. And I was going to just

this is very, I've never remember that I have that bad boy on this way. I can't believe you forgot

that you ordered this. And do you see why I almost cried in Costco? Because I was like, you're going to get better than that. You're winning. Before we get into, we haven't started yet. But before I also, so then I'm about to really knock your socks off. I've been wanting these pots and pans. Stand by for generations. Are you sure that you're good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. William and Sonoma. No, you're the Christian and William and Sonoma. Just put in heritage copper. Oh, you got me.

Right, hands. I don't know. You got me right there. It's this Italian company.

“I think things with our copper cookware. Fuck. I love cookware. I could talk about cookware all day long.”

Let's see. What do we got here? Woo, woo, phony. Yes, baby. Okay. For those who don't know, these are, we're looking at a copper pan with a silver stainless steel inside. Yep. Historic hammered copper, 11 piece set. Guess what? Originally $2,000. Grapes. I got our price. 1549. Why would you not buy this? And the prices in red. So I got again. I have to get it because it has to be so nice. I'm in no more.

Trust me, believe I got that 11 piece. Absolutely. I'm, I'm going to get it. I'm going to pass that down to my children. Like, it's so beautiful. It's making Italy like what? Anything that's Italian. Forget it. If someone's like, visit Italian knife, it's like, I got to get it. Okay. No problem. Dave, I enjoy Randolphus here. Oh, my God. We just got right into it. We already have all our cookware for I'm getting every who I trust and I trust your taste. Please, text it to me. I want to see

you like your first meal. I want to see your first meal made. I'm literally tearing up. Do you love to cook? I love to cook. Me too. I love to cook. And I talked about this on the podcast a little bit.

I came late to cooking. I did not grow up cooking and my mom always is like, I cooked. But

my mom's a working mom who, um, your parents teachers. Yeah. So we're mine. Yeah. So like she cooks. Yeah, but it was like, she didn't cook. Like holidays, maybe. She showed out. Yeah. And she was busy working. But so I didn't really know how to cook. And I thought in my 40s I was like, I just not going to be able to cook. Yeah. And I learned and now I love it. Well, actually, this is going to dovetail into the theme that I wanted to talk to you about today. Because I'm, I'm really impressed.

I, I think you're so talented. Thank you. And so naturally talented. And so such a good actress and so funny. And those, and and such a good singer. Like you do so many things so well. Thanks.

“And your career is a lot of like, I'm going to try that a lot of it. Yeah. I love it. Maybe you should”

try that. No, hold on. What's over here. Maybe I should try that. Still still. Still cooking. Yeah. Why not? Right. Yeah. So a lot of people know you as an actress, but I don't think as many people know that you first kind of entered the world of arts as a singer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was where that was kind of like the door you walked to. Yep. Mm-hmm. I liked it. So I like to ask this to people who are have beautiful voices. When did you, when did you know you had a good

voice? When did you hear it for the first time or someone say you have a good voice? When was the first time? I didn't know. I thought that's what people sounded like. Right. And it wasn't until like I started getting training that I was like, oh, the hell. So people are here who can't sing. When you say started getting trained, what does that mean? Taking voice lessons. Yeah. Taking voice lessons. So when I was younger, it was like, right? Like family and friends. And I thought they're just being

nice or whatever. Because I, I'm a Gemini. Like I'm a tourist Gemini. So like I'm a very focused tool Gemini that once all the options. So like, even as a kid, it wasn't like an you are a singer. Like I was the poster child for after school programs. I did it all. Yeah. I liked, I, I so

appreciate that. That my parents instilled that and was never like stage parents are like,

“they were like, whatever you want, lock in, they have fun. But even now, I think that's why acting”

is fun to me and like trying on these different people. Yeah. And not staying one with one for two too long. But that's also my life. It's people telling me like, no, no, for real though, you really could. Like I thought, I've always thought like, I'm decent. And it's taken people who I've really admired to be like, no, there's something there and keep going or keep pushing amazing. I hear what you mean. Like, it takes sometimes like a mentor or someone to say,

what you have is the same as what everyone else has. Keep working on it. Keep doing it. Like that in Cartesian can really. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. To me, when I watch you work, to me, it seems

that. I think I would hope that it feels some version of like that it's not trying or striving

too hard. But it did take definitely like directors and teachers and stuff to be like, no,

“you're funny. Keep going. Like just the key going part. But keep going part. Yeah. And as you”

know too, a lot of it is like, we know, I know people way funnier than me and you're way better than me and better singer. But half of the battle is just not given up. Yep. And being ready when it presents itself. Not getting a regular job, not having health insurance, not just for a long time being like, I'm just going to try to make it. Yeah. It's not easy. No, no, no, no, no. It's not easy at all. So you start, you're infilly. Where are you from? I'm from Boston.

I felt the Northeast 100%. Okay. And I got to talk to you about your Boston accent. Okay. We'll get there. Yeah. It was so good. Oh, that means so much. Thank you. It's a hard one. And we're tough. So it's Philly. And that was what was hard for me. I know because they're touching too close.

“But Philly has that like, um, they didn't like the ooze or real. Yeah. Myos teller does that.”

He has Philly accent. Yeah. How do you? And I'm like, what? Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, and you, and you, you guys, and guys. I can't even do it. Yeah. So Philly, you go to, you start studying music. Your parents are teachers. Mm-hmm. And you decide to go to school for opera. So I'm very competitive. So, uh, are you? Love competitive people. We are living. I like competitive women. Yes, respect.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, my dad was like, it's interesting. I always think of this.

And this is so random. My parents did not for both of their children want to know the gender and events. Cool. Like that was so cutting edge. Yeah. And my dad really was manifesting and wishing for the first one to be a boy. So, didn't happen. But he had a heavy hand in like sports and competitive and like, not backing down. And so, literally, I was just a competitive. And so there was this girl and like a new girl at my high school that was like, I went to this performing art school called

Inner Locking. And my brain went, do, do, do, do, do. And I went home. That day. I was dominated Inner Locking. I will win it. That's literally what I said to my mom. She was like, okay. I had no idea what this thing was. Mm-hmm. And I agreed. It was like that camp. Oh my god. Inner Locking is one of the most magical places. I'm not even kidding. I would recommend any parent who has a child that has remote interests in any form of the arts. They do theater, music. They have a writing department.

It is just like a safe haven for young grade school artists. Like, budding, it taught me to respect and revere. You know, like, in everyday life, it's not, I don't know, maybe now of these generations. It's cool to be an artist. But like, me growing up, it was kind of like, oh, yeah, you do that other stuff, too. Yeah. It was kind of like, have fun and then find your real job. Yes. And so that was a place that I think is so integral for high school age kids,

particularly, I mean, you can literally go at four years old. But for high school kids to go to to like really start to dip their toe into finding themselves as an artist. And it just so such a beautiful place in my life. And so that was a moment, a very strong moment, um, because it was classical. And I was like, oh, no, where's the army? Uh, right for me. Uh, and so it was all classical. Wow. So you were singing classical. And did you, do, can you read music? Now again, at the time,

I just had like a really good ear. We were classically trained opera singer. And it was because of

“that, that's what started it. And it was teachers being like, no, you actually have a natural”

gift, keep going. Had you seen any opera before that? No, I know. I feel like opera is this thing that you only see like, what is like a, it just, it's a field trip. It's a field trip. It's so my, I like, like, I love how we, when we grew up, like, well, you're younger than me. But when I was growing up, like, the genre is kind of crossed at times. And that's where you learned about people.

And I remember I was thinking when I was doing, preparing for today. I was like, why did I first

know about opera? And I think it was from the Muppets because Beverly Sills, who was an opera, my famous opera singer was sang opera on the Muppets. And, um, come on, so obsessed with the Muppets. So that's why my whole face just dropped when you said love the Muppets. Babes, I wanted to pee on that show so bad. And they were like, we're not doing humans this year. I said, no, you

Hi. Who's your favorite Muppets? Piggy, are you kidding me? She's, she's, she's, that lady literally, it's lady. That lady, that lady owes me a lot of money. I am happy today because of her. Oh, yes. It's like young age that being like, instilled in you, like, you don't take shit from man. You do your thing. Be fabulous. You don't change. You, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I literally made my parents buy me a tricycle. So, you know, she has that skit where she's like,

what the motorcycle pack? And she's like, get around and I used to do it all the time. And I just made my mom give me a letter check girl. It's like, then, that's my girl. When I told my thing was coming back, I said, please. Hmm, that's it. The other place that I saw opera was, um, Queen, and, um, Bohemian Rhapsody. Sure. Yeah. I was like, oh, sorry. I actually think that's a, that's a bridge like a gateway for a lot of people. Yeah. I think a lot of people were like,

“what is he singing? How is he singing that way? I was like, oh, no, that's what opera sounds like.”

So, you, when did you see your first opera? You meet, like, once I went to the performing arts school, it was like, they completely, like, slapped me with the culture. And I was like, whoa. And what, what was your first feeling about it? Like, what did you like about it? Having, like, what made you want to keep pursuing it? The power in my voice, that I was like, oh, there's an end also. I'm going to be really honest. They really sold me on the idea that it was a

really good life. Like, you're going to live in Europe and men are going to drool over you. And you get to wear beautiful gowns. Is it your feet? Any pasta all day. And you work hard, but not that hard. Like, as opera singers, they don't, how many, like, even if you're the top of your game, you have concerts, but they don't, like, we can do 17 million shows in a year. They may do, like, two, three opera. So, I was like, this is a nice lot of Broadway schedule.

No, man. Mm-hmm.

“Are you, does opera? Do you have to kind of, like, pick, like, like, an athlete? Do you have to pick”

your role, like, uh, the voice part kind of dictates it? So, what is your voice, what are you? I'm considered a baby dramatic soprano. Which means, like, I don't, that's what they say.

A baby. And I was like, well, I always have the baby part, even as like, you know, I don't know,

maybe, but it's like, basically it's like, so Lansing press, I don't think they would consider her a baby, but uh, dramatic soprano basically means you have the low notes, but you can also get up to the high notes, but instead of, like, traditionally, uh, soprano, the high notes are very, like, soft and airy. Like, more like, Ariana Grande, like, right, like, really breathy and soft and just, like, heavenly. And like, a dramatic soprano is like, you can get up there, but, like,

with some heft. Baby dramatic soprano. Mm-hmm. And did you ever do an opera on stage? I went to Temple University for the teacher, Quinto Went there. We were there at the same time, Quinto Bronson. And did you guys, were you friends? Did you know each other though? We were impassing because she was, like, so theater and I was still music. Ah, and they were still felt separate. Yeah, as they were at that time now, it's like a conservatory

and there's always put through department. Um, and so, so anyways, I went to Temple and we were

doing Ayita. Wow. And, uh, you know, my middle class parents, teachers, like, they're not dumb, but it's like, if you were to watch Shakespeare for the first time, like, they don't know what's going on. And so I remember my brain was just like, I want to be able, it wasn't even acted. I want to be able to portray this character and know this character very well so that it can translate for,

“like, my family and friends that come see this. I remember that very clearly. I don't even know”

where that came from. Yeah. And so I remember you to go across a street to the theater department, what was like, communications to copy sheet music. And I literally was copying sheet music and it sounded like people were dying in the room next door. And it was a theater class. And so I went up to this teacher afterwards. And I was like, Hey, I'm going to opera across a street. Like, could you help me? I want to like bring this to life. And it'd be good. Wow. Very long story short.

The music department got ultra pissed. And they were like, no, no, you can't do that. You can't cross over there. And I was like, I don't want to cross if I don't want to be an actor. But I guess because it had happened so many times. They were very like territorial over it. And they flunked me out. Excuse me? Yep. And it was my mom that I'm like balling on the phone. This is like my junior spring. Oh, I'm out of here. I'm not going to go be in Italy. Like

living my best life. And my mom was like, go across the street. I'm never because she talked so,

you know how moms are when their child is like devastated. Yeah. And she was like step one, go across the street, go speak to the administration. You're going to apply to the theater program,

That's literally how she said it was like, but she knew I needed logic first. Like yeah,

credit because I kept thinking, oh my god. Like I'm about to graduate. I have it now completely find a new right. Your pot committed to this thing. And then. And I was like, okay. Remember they told me this to this day that I went to the administration office. And I was like, I have to be an actor. And they were like, what? And I was like, no, I'm sad of crying. You're like, you are. You are. Exactly.

And then you got really a Shakespeare, right? You did a lot of Shakespeare later. Yeah, later. So when I got into

“Yale, I fainted. I did Shakespeare. But I think I did like, to Tanya when she sees bottom. She's like,”

in love. So I didn't have to really like, you know, I don't. I had to really meaning like, is that more comedic, is it? It is kind of more comedic. If you're saying that what you're saying is like, there's like, there's Shakespeare and then. Yes, it wasn't me reciting like Hamlet, where it was like, okay, you're just standing there and delivering this speech. It was like this straw, Tanya's like kind of like a Michelle Obama, like a tough girl that's like got it all together,

who now you see gets to be like, she's drunk the cool lady and she's like whimsical like this on genu and love and just being silly and in love of this like, you know, having like a kind of like teenage middle school moment of like, oh my God, this guy is so cute. So it was that. But like, I'm saying it in the sense of like, I wasn't doing Hamlet. Do you want to do Shakespeare? So I went to after my first year. I was like, I don't know this because I was doing another classical art.

I don't know this one and so I went to the British Academy of dramatic arts. Holy shucks for it. Which I couldn't believe it. We literally ate lunch. We're Harry Potter, ate lunch. Like, I'm walking in there being like, oh my God, I made it. Yeah, and so I was, it was so cool because I learned Shakespeare like, why the people who do it. Wow. But I love that sense of command that they have over language. I love how much you have trained. Thank you. Like, you are,

you really know your stuff. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I, I was fun. I bet and it gives to to your point. Like, it's supposed to be a journey like fun. And when you get to try and fail, over and over again, and then you get stronger and better. It's the best feeling. To me, it's kind of like freedom with informed. Like as long as I know the guard rails are up, I'm gonna bang up against those guard rails. But like, right, in order for me to really be loose and give all of myself, even with comedy,

like, I just need to know the parameters. Yeah. And then I'm just gonna go off and it allows me to, so I guess in a way, the training is like the guard rails. Then when I work, I'm like, whatever. Like, have you ever watched something back of your, I don't like to. I don't love to. Don't like, ADR is one of the most traumatic. Oh, yeah. Also, ADR is, for people who don't know, it's like

“that moment in the film when you have to kind of go back sometimes and re-record stuff. For me,”

is my first time of seeing it ever. Yes, it's often your first time seeing it, and it hasn't been like color, correct everything, and it's like orange. It's just like, why don't I look like that? I guess I am 100 years old. Like, it's just, it's seeing your face for the first time in a thing

that isn't finished. Yeah. And you have to record new stuff and it's brutal. I always use the color,

I'm crying after it. Well, I look so ugly. She was like, go across the street. Yeah, to the take a breath. You are okay. You are not the character. You serve the character. You're always really good at calling. Yeah. She's the one. You're right. Yeah. Was there anyone else there that we would know at the time, but we were so close. Yeah. When I was there, when I was a second year, Lupita was a first year, then after Lupita was Winston Duke, then after that, what I could be mixing this up

because I was now gone, but was then, yeah, yeah. Then after that was Mama Duke, like it just would do do do do do do do do do do do do. Wow. Yeah. Wow as intense. That's intense. And then you go and

“you go from that to talk about training being put to the test. You have to open ghost all in the”

West End with about a week of rehearsal. Yeah. Which made no so high was when I graduated, I got an agent and like, you know, I got to have a survival job. Yeah. So I applied everywhere in New York City and that little yellow degree, even though it's in theater, people were like, you're overqualified. No, but I was like, do you know more than the director and that upset him? Yeah. And so I couldn't

get any job. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to nanny. So I nanny for this amazing family. And

your children need to go to five star hotels and experience what that is like.

“It deserves to go with the next places. And we need to teach them how to eat at a five,”

literally. And they were like, okay, and literally can you imagine two little white points and me like at a table. And they're like, Mr. Fine. Just in case their friends are here watching. I've got to make this a photo. That's so far. So much fun. So smart. And then you go love that job. So how do you get the job? So they were like, oh, this is an audition for the like, under study, under study is swing. And so they were like, you'll, if you get this, you'll rarely

go on. No big deal. I go in there because I'm young. And I had never auditioned for anything before.

Those people told me, so you're going to do the entire thing. They made me audition for 75% of that musical in the room. Like I had my sides. And then they were like, here's more.

“Cold read. Wow. 75% of the musical. And he nailed it. It was just adrenaline.”

But one thing that was a blessing in the curse. I was on a high like my body, which I said, speaking of belting high, baby, I belted high that day. Oh, and then they wrote it. Because there's an original musical. So they were like, oh, she wants to belt an ass. That would be great. Something you don't want to do. Because each shows a night. And they were basically up there. I was like, no, we don't have to.

Bring it down. So I did an audition in like August. I didn't hear anything for two days. I'm not thinking about it. It's the understudy, understudy. My team then hits me up and was like, you booked it. And I'm like, oh, okay, cool. And I was bummed because I was like, I

“had to tell these kids. Yeah. I got to leave them. Yeah. Then my team was like, are you”

crazy? It was the lifestyle. I was saying goodbye to the lifestyle. So they literally, they but like days later, they're like, why are you not more excited? My team. And I was like, because you, it's just whatever. Like, if everyone gets sick, then maybe I'll go on. They were like, yeah, we lied. Um, you are playing. We'll be Goldberg's part. And I was like, come on. What? Why would you do this? So then I'm terrified. And it was literally the like the Tuesday before things

give in. And so I had never done a job of that magnitude, but I had never done a, like, seasonal job.

Yeah. And I really love the holidays. Yeah. So I started crying and I was like, what do I get to spend these games with my parents? And you know, ages, are you done? You made it. You're going to let's do it. You've worked with so many great people. And you talk about them a lot. And you talk about Robin Williams. And I can't believe that was my first movie. That's amazing. I cannot believe that sadly, that was my first movie and that was his last movie. I cannot believe it. What was I like to be

so grateful. There's something that I noticed in legendary comedians specifically. Robin had it. Eddie had it. I had that experience with it's different. But they have a similar trait. Eddie shows up in Steve Martin for sure. Martin sure. And there's this thing when we talk about

when people tap me on my shoulder and be like, hey, and I never would think it would be those

people. And my mind growing up, I thought, you know, like, they had to really stay to themselves and they're distant or like, their egos won't ever give you the satisfaction. And Robin was the complete opposite. And he actually talked to me more than anybody else. We just talked for we. I literally just sat there and listened to everything that that man said to me. And I will even in the moment while he was talking to me, I was like, this is crazy. No one's going to

believe you. So don't even tell anyone like, maybe later, you can share a great anecdote. But it was unbelievable. And he just poured into me. And it would just be like in between the takes. He was just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, you know, they immediately just going to this thing. But yeah, he, if I would say career wise, he was the first person that was like, you've got what an annoying thing from someone like that. And then you were to the

Eddie and do all of my and what and same thing. Eddie, he took you under his way and he really did and something that was interesting. So like differences, Robin was so explosive. It felt like I would be will ask the only thing I can think of is like, you know how in pin station the ticker thing,

so him is like, like, and I'm just like, I feel like almost like having coffee like you just filled his buzz being next to him and just was like, and with Eddie something that I learned and it was interesting to work with him at that stage of his life and that point of his career, there is a stillness and a quietness when he's not working or in between scenes. And then there's the action

and this whole thing comes to life. Yeah. And it was something that in the first, again, supporting

actor being like, okay, this is your rhythm and this is how you work that I've been like adjusted and then I was like, okay, so I'm not. Well, that feels like your musical training comes in there because you're picking exactly what you said, rhythm and breath and energy, like the dynamics.

“100% of the day. The rhythm is the biggest thing, I think, especially with comedy and especially”

with legends at that, you write you want to learn quickly, not ask any questions and observe and like feels like jump rope of like, I'm jumping in and I'm jumping in and I'm jumping in, you know, I mean, learning that kind of pacing and but it was after that he really kind of prepared me for the industry in that when we did like we had a full blown press tour and he was like, she's like, whatever I'm going to, she's coming to all of it and so like 100% it prepared me for

holdovers. I think if I didn't have that, I'll be like, what is this crazy machine? Yes, of things and so and a more chill way I got to experience that I got to see what insane fame looks like. Yeah, which is scary to me. Yeah. That's really intense. I'm getting ready for it. Sorry,

“but I mean, you mentioned the holdovers, I just have to say to you that film. It is now forever in”

rotation as a Christmas film because not only is it beautifully acted and beautifully directed by Alexander Payne and Paul Giamani and Tom and they're amazing. The three of you together are just it's you. But it also captures this melancholy, like you say you love the holidays and it's this holiday salty sweet sour sadness that happens to all of us well, even if you have a house full of people or whatever you consider like, yes, a traditional happy Christmas is like the loneliness finds its way in every time.

I know even with a full house the way you depicted that mother and that movie is one of my favorite cinematic performances I love. Congratulations on winning the Academy Awards and so deserved.

Thank you. And just so first of all, Paul Giamani. Love him. Always loved him.

Always loved him. And similarly he's so good at so many things. It is really good at playing like that underdog that can't quite figure it out and just like he was hitting their head against the well, oh, he's so good. I had a fun moment when he hosted SNL when I was there and you know, you're like down under the bleachers like changing clothes really fast and at one point I turned to him and I was like, are you having fun? And he was like, this is a nightmare inside everything is painful and he's dying inside.

Yeah, yeah, what we're filming and I'm like, wow, we're really doing it. He's like, I hate it.

“Not he, it's nothing. No. But you know what I mean? That's why he's so funny. That's why he's so”

good at it. Because he doesn't. He'll put himself in like risky like inside his anxiety is through the roof. Yes, and he's like, we feel it with him and the trio of you three like unexpected friends, like, you know, like a random family. Yeah. Yeah. So good. What kind of prep did you do for that role? So it was interesting when, because I love cooking, um, I was like, uh, so listen, contractually, I have to cook for real. And for many reasons and due to that time period,

I wanted it to be clear that this was actually her job and that she was good at it versus like

I first asked Alexander, I said, is she the help or is she a learned chef? And he was like,

I actually want her to be a learned it. He said cook. And I said, we're not going to say that where we're going to say chef if you're saying she has an education. Yeah. She's a chef. Right. Um, and so once I knew that's where he was going with it, I was like, okay, so then you're going to have to establish scenes and moments where I'm dealing with the food and facilitating the kitchen to show my, um, prowess over this area. Yeah. Right. And so, and I remember there was like,

much flexibility and collaboration, which I think is another huge reason why that movie just did

“so well because he trusted us and we really got to work together. And so like, there was a moment”

where I was like, you know, to be honest, he had a lineup of extras for people that were going to be in my kitchen and they were all women of color. And I was like, you're going to have to put some white ladies in there too. And he was like, really wide, I said, because it, the other ones look like it's my friends that I just brought in and then this other version makes it again, look like, oh, no, I'm in charge. Yeah. And these are the cooks. So I adlibed this line in the movie

where I'm like, to the white lady, too much paprika. Because my mom and I was like, no, no,

she can taste it and be like, too much paprika. Because I wanted to show a lot of it to do with

the time period. That's right. It's like, I want, if you're saying she's a chef, I don't want those lines to be blurred. But in regards to prep, the thing that Alexander was the most sharing

“out with me, I just told you to take a minute. I love knowing that because you're, because I couldn't”

capture it. What you're exactly what you're saying, which is a, there's a regalness to her. Yes, there's a pride. Yes. And even if that lady has two cents in her pocket, which is another thing, because he understandably, he wanted her to be in hot pink rollers and that cozy warm purple moon moon, the entire most of the movie. Yeah. Because he was like, it's the holidays. And I was like, no, she has so much, she's working. Yes. She may be, you know, they might be in like,

living shared living quarters. But she's working. She wakes up. This is our job. Yes. And so it was something that we had to negotiate for him to realize. Yes. No, this isn't just Auntie with the

you know, mean. Yeah, with Uncle Buck and whoever such incredible tension, because that is her space.

And then the scene, when she's serving and when, when she, when everyone is eating her food, that she's good at cooking and Paul's character standing up for her, and like it's beautiful. That's one of my favorite moments. Yeah. And it's just a look. She just looks at the kid. Yes. But she, but she know the volume in which Paul yelled, she heard it. Yes. You know, me, like, she wasn't there for it, but she heard that he had his back. And so the main prep was, I was in,

it was very keen on smoking. It was almost like an audition question. Do you smoke? And I was like, no, I don't. And he was like, and I was like, you can send a pack on over and we can figure it out. That part of the prep was learning how to smoke, making it look realistic. I was, it was great that I was in Boston. There's so many smokers in Boston, but I want to just watch like there is a science. Mm-hmm. You can tell the level of addiction or how many years it, I'm not going to say addiction,

level of addiction. Yeah. Let's say how long you've been in the game. Oh, tell me what you noticed about how people lose the more that it feels like it is literally another finger. They've been doing it for a while. Right. Right. Right. It's like the person is usually like older men, that like, it's, hey, how, I don't even know. It's like that one because a person that has, they're like, once you try to sneak tighter. It's tight and they're like enjoying every minute. I'm, I'm thinking

about like the girls outside the club. Sure. Like bombing it from someone else. Yes. And, but someone who's like, oh, there's a hundred more where that came from. It'll fall out. They, like, take it up forever. Yeah. I'm a light and I'm right away. Yeah. And so part of my process was like, still interesting. What's her level of addiction and in certain times and what she's going through, I wanted the, the smoking to signify what like psychologically was going on for her. So, and then

the big, the biggest, most difficult, the two difficult things, most difficult things about filming and smoking timing of knowing when to, like, how to pace of between the talking and when to pull. Right. Yeah. And blowing that smoke. So it's not in your face for the camera. Unless there's some moments where you want it to get in or not like directing that smoke was tricky. Ooh, I can, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to be rewatching this movie again. That was a

lot of it. And then watch it. It's a lot of it. It's a lot of it. We could have a beautifully acted scene. And longs are going to be like, that smoke went in pause pace, pause face, do it again. And then the last thing was the dialect, which he was like, let's talk about. Let's say that was fine. He was like,

“you're from Philadelphia's cool. And I was like, Alexander, respectfully respectfully, how dare you?”

No, sir. And he was adamant about it. And you worked, I can tell because it was so good. Yeah, I wasn't a cold kill and dialect coach who's the best and so down the earth, but

Like we said, I'm from Philadelphia. It, it's so close, but yet it's not the same thing. And also it was, technically it's a period piece. And so the biggest reason why I wanted to do the dialect, not only because that is what is the world, I needed something to differentiate and to separate from me. Yeah. And so I, I needed that dialect. The smoking, yeah, clothes helps. The hair helped a lot, but the dialect was the thing that really allowed me to lock in. Were there words that helped you

lock in? Like, Mr. Hat, what was his name? Shavah, Mr. Hanam. Mr. Hanam, I heard you, Mr. First scene. Mr. Hanam. When they meet, and it's like, Mr. Hanam, I'm paraphrasing. She's like, Mr. Hanam,

“I heard you had babysitting duty. How did you manage that? And that was like my key phrase. Yes.”

That I would maybe sit and maybe sit and yeah. And how did you manage that? What was helpful was the crew was our Boston. Oh, yeah. So I would literally like, yeah, no shame. I was like, then I say that right. I didn't get it because Boston and me, you know, our ears are attuned. It's, to me, it's like the Australian accent. For sure. It's for sure. When it's wrong, it is rough. Yeah. And so what I basically said to myself is, I worked on an impractid a lot. And I told myself,

you're going to have the first day of filming. If you get a lot of feedback on this dialect, I've been distracting or too much or not, right? We're going to leave it alone. Yeah, smart. And, and, and, and, smart. Yeah, it worked. And I was like, okay, but in between still, I literally in between takes the gas. I'm like, is it smart, smart, smart? Yeah. And they were like, smart, and I'm like, okay, smart, smart, smart. Speaking of films, we're talking about eternity,

“the rom-com that you're in with the hilarious John early, who we love. I think he was one of the last”

people that they cast. And I knew from the script that I would have quite a bit of stuff with this character and I kept saying, who I kind of didn't want to sign on the dotted line until I knew

yeah, who the person wasn't, it just didn't work out that way. And I never get, we were in like,

why they call it camera testing. We were camera testing. And I was ear hustling and I heard them say, and I go, yes. And they were like, what is wrong? And I'm like, oh, my job just got way better. So, and funny. Really, you guys are great together. He has the stuff that's up there in that brain. Mm-hmm. And it's so much. Do you know, you obviously know what I mean? And you know what I was a little worried about? Because he's so, so good that I was like, oh, he's gonna be doing the button thing.

You know the button thing. You know what I'm funny, huh? And it's like the scene is done. And now, every funny person in that room is like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and then the person goes back and I'm like, wow. Oh my god, I've never heard it. Like that, that's, I'm really, I'm really sweating because I, I, so it's infectious. It is your so right, though. There's an instinct for comedy people to be like, and one more thing. But, but, but, but, now, person A's got to do

my second button. And then it goes, and it just goes, and my always, I'm like, very present,

but, and that's usually when the camera cuts to me. Oh, that's so real. Yeah. You're right. And then once someone does a button, someone's like, I got a button, that button. It never ends. And I just said there. But, yeah, he didn't have any of that. Yeah. But, so, I don't think he ever repeated a joke.

“Hmm. I'm just so so impressed by him. What is your relationship to rom-com? So what rom-com?”

Do you, are you a rom-com person? Do you like rom-com? I was when I was in high school. When I was like, was, let me tell you something. How was it that in 10 days? Oh, yeah. It's perfect. And if you tell me different, I'll fight you. That, and I like all you was pretty bad. Because it's so hard. It's so magical. Baby, that same when you're out instead and I'm not alone, I'm playing the card game. I'm bowling. Because you're really making me want to watch out

again. It's been a minute. Okay. And I like it to you because it's like, it's a relatable New York cup. You know, some of those New York rom-coms are like, well,

I'm never going to be in that pinhouse. Yeah, the box and the, the, I love how it was like,

they were regular New Yorkers. And that, like, statin, I forget your name is statin, I'm Long Island family. It was a really good touch. My best friends wedding. Yes. It's so good. I think it's the ones that are really relatable. I know. And they just dig in and some, like,

people who know our guests. We talk well behind their back. We get a question for them. So we

talk to the director of attorney David Frane. And we got to talk about how incredible it was

working with you. And he, and he was explaining, which I'm, I'm now getting to see in real time, the feeling of there was like a, there's a calmness to you when you work and a confidence that is, he says like, it just, as a director just makes you feel like everything is going to work out like everything. You know, and he, and he had two questions for you. One was, where do you think you find the calm or, as he said, the cab? Yeah, the cab. He had a great

taxi cab. I heard you find the cab. Yeah. But then the, um, so that was his first question is like,

“is that true? Are, are you feeling like when you step and work that there's a calmness to you?”

Do people project that on you? Is that real? What do you think it's, um, how do I say? It's a little projected. It's all of it, right? So number one, yes, it's part of that like preparing to then like have so much fun, like, right? Like within the boundaries, like, I know I did the work, but then I'm very open to what is a direction? What are you giving me? What, you know, I mean, what is it going to be in this? I know her, um, and you could tell me we're going to go

on Mars. Great. We're going on Mars. What's that going to be? Yeah. So there's that. There's also to I'm very well aware of like, it's interesting how leads speak of like their role of leadership and that I am aware that part of my role is to not say anything out loud, but to reassure and to like, um, nurture a little, but like create a foundation. That's really interesting. As, yeah, um, not to name drop, but I will name drop in a lot today. Um,

Great, as Paul Troy was in the seat and she, she said something that I thought was really interesting, which is, you know, we were talking in terms of the code dependency and trying to

“figure out, and when you're in a supporting role in any aspect of life, you have to balance”

what you talked about, which is knowing what is needed for the room and she used the term thermometer, like, 100 to hot, go on, you know, same with every scene. That's a giving supportive collaborative person and then also taking care of yourself. That's right. It's a, it's a hard balance. And I think I've gotten really good at that. Yeah. And I think that also why I've been able to work with the type of people I've gotten to work with because I think it's that mixed in with they then fill a reassurance

to them be them their best selves. Yeah. Right. And so then I'll have like it's so cute and I can't be if I'm even saying this Steve Martin will literally be like, because I normally when I film for only murders, they're so kind and with my schedule, they allow me to like shoot out. So I'm doing like in two weeks, like five episodes. And so we get like this kind of like intense two weeks with one another. And then I'll be like gone for a year and then we'll catch up for like press and then

do the next year. And then he always is like, God, I forgot about this feels good. I'm feeling good.

“And that to me is the greatest great as compliment that I can think of. And so yeah, I think it is a”

bit of that. And then I think also there is like I do still suffer with imposter syndrome in this format. Like when we have to talk about it, but I don't when we're doing it that makes sense. But it's, but it's, but it's a quiet, maybe it's the mean about that calmness, reassuredness, it's a quiet confidence. Yeah. But also at the same time, there's a lot of adrenaline and excitement buzzing through me. And do you ever find sometimes when you perform this kind of like sometimes,

I'll have this moment of like zoom in zoom out. Yeah. Well, I'm like kind of up over here. Yeah, this is associating. Yeah. That's great. I highly recommend it. I love it. They're like, I'm on the ceiling, babe. I have nothing to touch me. No. I'm not here. And we're doing it. Yeah. Yeah. And I have that sometimes. Me too. And it's what you're saying is like a technique to get past exactly what you said the fear and adrenaline. And I don't know if you're like this,

but I can get nervous after I do something. Yeah. I get through it. And then like an hour later, I'm like, yeah, we do it. And it all starts to shake out because yeah, I wasn't really there. Yeah. I want to finish with a very quick speed round. If you can give me a sensor to about this, about some of these people or things. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. And number one is Zoe Kravitz.

The best that I knew she was extremely talented when I first met her. She was an executive producer.

I think that was her first executive producer role. And she went above and beyond. And so when she began starting to direct, that was like, duh, we saw that. I remember one time,

on sad. And she was really like, it was a coffee cup. We were doing a scene in Abodega. And it

was a coffee cup. And she was like, that's not what real coffee cups look like in New York. Like why is it? I think it was like red. And you know, it was like blue with the blue and the white. And they were like, oh, because we're young and she's a woman. So go like, no, no, Zoe. It's fine. And she's like, no, no, no, get it right. And we'll wait in a very polite professional and start with it. And I was like, she's got it. Okay, speed around. Yeah, I'm talking. My log.

Help a kilo. Yeah. So Abacino. I was talking here getting good once. And you're like speed around. Abacino on Broadway stressed out, voice tired, eating soup. And like this little French bistro. He randomly is there. He goes to check out. And he backs back and like comes and sits down at my table. And we have this like a beautiful heartfelt thing. And I share with a stranger. Like, it's really hard. I can't talk. Like, you know, I have no life that amounts that is required for this.

And he gave me the most beautiful advice ever. And he uses metaphor of a ladder and said

“like, as you continue to go up a ladder, you have to let go of more and more weight. And kind of”

was like, it's not what your feeling is natural. Another moment of someone being like, you've got it. Keep going. Yeah. And it's like, I'll see you at the top of the ladder. Cut to we do do my Netflix decides they're now going to start doing magazines. Like, they're all magazines. We get to the shoot. And there's a ladder there. And I'm like, oh my god, oh my god, because I knew he was going to be in this shoot. Because it was like the Irish. And I was like,

yo, if they put me on this ladder, I'm a little sick. And they're like placing everyone to play play show. He's next to the ladder. And I said, please, please, please, please, please. Because he's still got to put like Laura Dern in Scarlett Johansson's house. Like, you're what the ladder. And they put me in the ladder. I'm balling the entire photo shoot. And I'm like, looking down at him. And I'm like, how do you remember the ladder?

- Let's get him in, did he? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, - No, no. - No, no. (laughing) But I'm like, "This is the leader."

And he's like, "All right, honey." Like, whatever. But in my mind, I was like, "It's full of circle." I'm on the ladder. I'm looking at you and you said it was going to happen.

- Oh my god, the perfect story. And then Steven Sandheim. - I miss him. I know that sounds so crazy. - Doesn't. - But it's like he was like the modern.

- Okay, sometimes that musical theater stuff is a lot for me.

Look, I was never kidding, I was like, "Rank, did it, eh!"

But because I came into a late, and I just like, "Well, I'm a vocalist and this is theater." And I had to like find my way into musicals, which is funny that my first gig was a musical. But I just vibed with him so much

because it felt like strong story, really good acting, and we just so happened to sing beautiful, beautiful songs. To me, it's like the purest for me and my taste. One of the purest ways of expressing musical theater, and in college, we did into the woods,

and I played the witch.

“- Oh. - And I was like, "Okay, I think I like this stuff."”

- Can you sing a little bit of it? - "Grize also crazy." - You don't. - I'm so green. - I'm so green. - This is-- - Wait, but what's the song when she's like-- - Sing it a little, Steven.

Anything from Steven, a sundown. - What is the one that the witch-- - Well, we didn't get it on my laptop. - But what that I'm able to do with the lyrics? This is crazy, I think for a new one.

- And I'm going to order that William Sinoba. - Can you do it? Please do it. Please order it immediately. - I'm not kidding you. I've thought about it the entire time.

- Yeah. - You guys didn't see it. - But it has a wooden bowl. - With a hundred green. - And the hopper. Okay. What are we looking up?

♪ Where are the clumps ♪ ♪ Send in the clumps ♪ - Tanks, Ben. - Oh! - That's-- - Only for you. - Literally. - Thank you, thank you.

- For years. - Oh. - No, you're years. - Okay, I appreciate you. - I appreciate you. - And the world needs to hear your voice. - So I know, I gotta work with this stuff.

“And so that's why I'm going to figure out.”

I think, honestly, I talk about this a little bit. But I think, honestly, because the classical thing, I feel like there's a lot of people that can sing pop, and I don't be. But I do feel like that's one of my special little tricks

like you said how sing is a trick, but classical. I think I want to do a biopic on the in-team price. And just like, okay, we're doing it. - Oh, yeah. - For the band-aid off. - Everybody's singing. - Everybody's singing.

- Everybody listening, let's make that happen.

- Yeah. - God, that would be amazing.

- I think that would be fun. - And then my last question is, because you're so funny, times are stressful, we ask a lot of our guests,

What is there anything right now that you're watching,

consuming like a, like a dumb video, a TV show. - It really makes me, I did a podcast with Royal Court. - Oh, Brittany. - To the point where I'm trying to tell my publicist like, "Go back and take something "because I just felt so comfortable, and we were just crying.

- I saw you on that, and you guys were hilarious." - We were cracking up, and I was like, "Oh, she's got it."

“- So I think what her podcast is giving people right now”

is really, really nice. I watch a lot of old stuff. I don't, do you, are you like that? Do you sometimes, sometimes I'm like, "Oh, I don't want to be." - I don't want to.

- I don't want, I don't want to, I don't want to. - I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to. - I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to. - I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to. - In fact, I mean, what are the reasons why

the kind of intention behind this podcast is to me, the way, for my own mental health, was like feeling like chatting and laughing with people, connection was getting me up out of things, but the actual like watching comedy at home,

and like sometimes it feels like, "Oh, if it's good, I'm like damn." - I can't, because I'm judging it. I can't watch contemporary stuff because I'm like, "My friends in that, but hair looks crazy."

You know what I mean? Why did they do? So I like to watch older things. And so, I mean, you can't beat a 90s company, which I feel like is a lot of stuff that you've done,

but like a 90s comedy is just so good. - Oh, like, what would you put on like, to like run as you were like, are you talking friends? Are you talking? - I love rush hour.

- Yes. - It that's one of one of the best,

buddy duels that you would never think of,

and it is also good. - Let's watch a rush hour scene for you. - What scene? - Um. - I don't give a damn about you.

I don't like you. I don't like you. (laughs) - The girl like you. - I thought it like you.

You came all will be a for nothing. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. (laughs) - And isn't it funny how people get so like,

you touch the radio? This is not even your card. Don't touch the radio. - I mean, outside, I love when people are given to,

give it to somebody straight, and they're like, I don't like you. - I'm really makes me laugh. - I just don't enjoy it.

- You just say that in real life.

- No. - You never get to say.

“- How many let's you say stuff you could never say?”

- Yeah, just dead pants. - I just like, I walk away. - She doesn't like you. (laughs) - Just not into you.

Sorry. - Well, Dave, I love you. And I think we should be friends. - Yes. - And I think we should buy various things together.

- I'm gonna give you my number. I want you to text me when you get the mixer. - Great. I think you should get a pot. Just get one of the pots.

- I gotta get all the pots. - Okay, good. That's what I was hoping for. And then, like, when you cook something in there, text it to me, and I'm gonna text it to you too.

- Oh, I'm gonna text it to you too. - Yes. - I mean, what are we, why are we working so hard if we can't buy ourselves discounted copper pots? - Black Friday, so we deserve it.

- And this economy. - And so what the price used to be? (laughs) - What is that rating that you speak about? This is that urgency of.

- There's 50,000 in inventory. In the back. - Yeah, but I'm gonna get it. And then I'm gonna go pick it up. Do you have Pasta?

- Pasta? - Pasta, what thing you want to take? - Like, so when you get that, you can then also, for like, like, 99, 99, get the attachment has to then make fresh pasta.

- What? - A pasta-making machine? Or that's it? - So you get the kitchen made. - Thank you for coming.

- We're gonna get up. (laughs) - Anysponsors? We're gonna go shopping. - Kitchen made.

You just take the head off and then attach the pasta, different things or so you could do the one where it's like, - Oh yeah. - So yeah. - So yeah.

Then taste that off, macaroning. And then you got endless possibilities. - I've never made pasta. I've always wanted to. I'm gonna do it.

- I will do it if you. - Yeah, I would love to. Let's do it. Let's hire a guy. (laughs)

(laughs) (laughs) - Thank you. So much, Dave, I enjoy Randall. Fewer, so fun.

And I love talking to you. And I'm so blown away by your talent. And you're training. And so thanks for joining me on the pod. And speaking of talent and training.

I just want to use this polar plunge. Because we were talking a little bit about Shakespeare. And there's a person that I discovered in my phone, where I discover everything. Read everything and learn everything.

I'm a performer named Michelle Terry.

“And she is, I believe she ran the Shakespeare Globe Theatre,”

or a member of the Royal Shakespeare Company.

she performed all those places.

She's really good. She's a really good actress.

“She is a person who continually amazes me.”

And translate Shakespeare to me in a way

that feels like no one has for me. So I don't know if you're on your phone right now. And you want to type her name in,

“and you're going to see videos of her playing Hamlet”

and Richard III. Incredible. Okay.

So if you never like Shakespeare before,

“Michelle Terry is going to get you there.”

So that's my plunge. Thank you for listening. And see you next time. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang.

The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by The Wringer and Paper Cite. For The Wringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spalane, Kaia McMillan, and Alaya's Aniris.

For Paper Cite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original Music by Amy Miles.