Building a Legacy with Ayesha and Stephen Curry

We're kind of like, in the same circle of friends,

but all our conversations in high school

were about either church or what you're going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like, talk about sweet two stuff. So no, it was no rap, no, no. I don't know if I ain't having a game,

or if she was nervous or vice versa, like, neither one of us really kind of, it was just, you know. I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued. OK. OK. OK, let's clear it up.

This episode is brought to you by Chase home lending and their flu. Well, it's been a while since I've seen you. It feels like a whole year. Yeah, you're doing OK.

Do you want to find? That's good. You look good. I feel good. Have you been losing weights?

I have been-- Is that what I see? Is that just a big jacket? No, no, no, no. I've actually--

“Remember, the last time my knee was bothering me?”

Oh, yeah.

It's all better so I can do more stuff.

Be more active, get my workout in, you know. That's good. And then I'm coaching. So running around with these little children. And now many teams are you coaching now?

So I'm coaching Erin's Agrade team. What's the name of their team? Junior Highlanders. What does that mascot look like? It looks like a guy with big, uh,

Cyburns dressed in a kilt. Uh-huh. That's-- you can't laugh at that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

It's like-- so what's his story? Is he a Sherpa or something? No, he's more like a Scottish man. [LAUGHS] That's--

It helps to kill me out. The kilt. It's the kilt. I'll do some research in line down. Please, please.

But I'm coaching you crazy. We are going to find out about the Highlanders.

“And I'm sure all the folks in Meckwon will be reaching out”

to give you information because I want to know. They will. They will. So you've got the Highlanders. And then I'm the assistant coach for the high school team,

which are the actual Highlanders. Yeah. They're not called senior Highlanders. They are the Highlanders. OK.

And they happen to be playing right now, so-- So you're missing the game? Yeah. But that's OK. Because we have a--

It's a good excuse. Well, what coach Robinson is absent. I'm the whole team will be ecstatic. And I'm very excited because so you know these two. And I'm just meeting them for the first time,

if you could believe that. I realize that you hadn't-- Well, I mean, I've worked in the NBA for five years. And I would come out before the games when we would play Golden State.

And I'd see him doing his work out.

And I always wanted to go introduce myself

and say, you know, I'm Michelle Obama's brother. But I didn't have the nerve to interrupt his work out.

“I'm looking forward to talking to Ayesha”

because I probably other than them. I'm the only person who's been the international spoke at this table. Oh, you've been to international smoke. Oh, yes.

Oh, hi. Oh, hi. OK. Well, yes. Let's bring him on.

OK, let me give it to you. OK, let me give it to you. I will do that. All right. So Stephen Curry, on and off the court,

legacy is underscored by transformation and innovation. He is a four-time NBA champion, 12-time all-star, New York Times bestselling author and Olympic gold medalist. And now I have to say he's an actor.

Because did you see go-- I sure did. That was fun, wasn't it? I sure did. But the real star of the couple is--

The star of the couple is Ayesha Curry. My girl. A renowned restaurant tour chef, two-time New York Times bestselling author, actress, producer, and CEO of Sweet July Skin.

Her accessible approach to cooking has made her one of the most sought-after experts in food and lifestyle. So without further ado, please welcome Ayesha and Stephen Curry. The curries are in the house.

[APPLAUSE] What's going on? Thank you for having me. Oh, thanks for being here. Thanks for being here.

You love it. Good to see you. Good to see you. Come on in. Great to see you too.

Welcome to Ayesha. You don't even have to move the chair. [LAUGHTER] So I usually have to scoop the chair out. Well, welcome, you guys.

Thank you for having us. And take them as excited. You all got busy lives, but you're here with us. And we are grateful, excited. Ayesha and I are text buddies.

We are. Because you're too busy. I'm busy. You're just too busy. You know, I know we've become friends,

but sometimes I'm still teetering on the line of, I don't want to say too much. I don't know. And I tell you, it's like, I'm not that nice.

If I don't want to talk to you, you're like,

I won't respond.

So I will not, but she goes me sometimes.

So I do not. That's not true. No, that's not true. She texted me back right away. But we've gotten to know one another on so many different levels.

Barack loves you to death, loves you both. But excited because we're partners. Yes, we are. And our wonderful new venture, Pleasant Nutrition,

“and Stefan and I, I, you sure you guys are the key”

behind the formulation of our new hydration drink. So so glad to be working with you on that. And I want to just start by asking, why? What makes you excited about Pleasant? I know what makes me excited, but...

- What's that? - Sure. So I think for me, it was our kids. - A hundred percent. - So our kids really gravitated towards all of the samples when we were doing the sampling.

And we looked at each other and they were like, no, they really like this. And then we started to try and we were like, wait, we really like this. And then when you have something that can be for the kids,

it can help you on the court. And then if you mix it with a little tequila, it's nice, it's slow. - Mixer, you know, that you're my favorite. - Okay.

- So that really was the, the key component for us, was what did our kids love it. - A hundred percent. And to that, like the energy we got from them,

obviously our first conversation with you about how much time

and energy was put into what was in the bottle. And the can, the roadmap of, you know, a full scale offering from, you know, an attrition standpoint. And then now with hydration being a key focus,

exciting to bring it into the world of sports in the way. But there's such as much more educated, you know, kid and family consumer now in terms of what's going on in the bottle that obviously the taste has to be free. But we're trying to check all of those boxes.

- I think, I mean, we're all biased,

“but I think we, we have confidence in that.”

- I would say you're not biased because the Robinson boys, I've got 16 and 14, both play hoops, play others, they play sports. When Miche sent us a case of it, I was like, no way, they're gonna drink this

'cause they don't like other hydration drinks. And they were like, whoa, what is this? And it was gone in a week. So we can't keep it in the middle of you guys. - Speaking of kids, y'all got a lot of kids.

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So when I was doing my research, I heard the story of you all meeting which I had never heard.

“Can you talk a little bit about you guys meeting first as youngsters and then how you remet?”

Because I have some questions. It's crazy so the long story short is in high school. I lived in Charlotte and her family had moved down to Charlotte from She's from Toronto to start high school. And so I was a year older and we went to the same ended up going to the same youth group at the same church. And then we went to Central Church of God and Charlotte North Carolina.

Shout out. It eventually getting married there and he officiated our wedding, so it was awesome, full circle. But we met there.

We were kind of like in the same circle of friends.

But all our conversations in high school were about either church or where you going on Wednesday or Canadian candy. It was like talk about sweet two stuff. So no it was no wrap no no. I don't know if I ain't having a game or if she was nervous or like vice versa and like need of one of us really kind of it was just, you know. I feel like this is something that gets misconstrued.

Okay. Okay. Let's clear it up. So no it's not that you didn't have game. I was 14 years old.

I think that's not out. That's a boy. Okay. Yeah. That's make a difference.

Yeah, no one put you in. But did I think you were cute? Absolutely. But did you try? I also heard you had a no athlete's rule.

That is true. So to tell me about that. At the very least respectful comment also on my part. It's so okay. Okay.

Thank you. That's really nice. Why is that disrespectful? I had very textbook. Maybe misconception.

I kind of framed like movie plots. Movie plots. Ideas of athlete. The job. I was a theater nerd.

“So I think I was protecting my piece and just,”

I don't know the teacher. It was an activity one day in class and she said, Write down what you would look for. And it was in capital. Like God is funny.

It was in capital letters. And my parents found it. I was like, wait on the road. I want to say like, maybe eight years ago in an old box. And they were like, look at this.

And I'm like, oh wow. It's embarrassing. But yeah, I don't know. It was just an activity in class that she had. But I definitely did say that.

And I think I did think that too.

Because I remember our first.

He calls it a date. It was definitely that. He calls it a date. He calls it a date. I was in a late.

I came out. You know, my sophomore year in college. I came out here. And I knew she had moved out here to pursue acting. So I hit her up when I was on my way.

It was me and my dad coming out. And I actually ditched my dad. We were supposed to go to this party. You know, there was like this dinner in this party. But I told him, hey, I'm going to hang out with that.

“You should like, you cool hanging out here.”

I thought I was going to be going like two hours and come back. And it was in the rest of the night. She picked me up. And the Astro Vans. She had her hair in the road around Hollywood.

Like all the tourists. He still can do in LA. So stuff. We're losing. We're losing.

Always thinking about 100%.

100%. Really? We don't really talk that much when I was in college. Right. You know, back in the day, the Facebook message type thing.

Were you shy? Oh, for sure. For sure. Would you say that? I, you should.

Did I? He didn't come across. I'm shy. Oh, and I'm an introvert. He didn't come across that way.

At, at all. Um, what was he, what was he, what was he, was he, Mr. talking. Correct. He talked about.

Super confident. And very charismatic. Very knowledgeable. About what? Just a fool.

[ Laughter ] Like something to say about any subject matter. Oh, so he was, he continued. He could hold a conversation really well. I just can't do.

But he was funny.

“And I think that that was the most important thing.”

Because going into us hanging out,

we had never really hung out before.

And so going it on our own. And so going into that day, I didn't know who I was picking up. I picked him up in my, [ Laughter ]

It's through 90 years later. Yeah. Yeah. And I, I didn't know who I was going to get. And it was the second he got in the car.

It just felt like we were best friends. And we've literally been together since that day. That's cool. That's cool. Shout out to us at 2008.

When, over the course of the day, how you should do, feel like, oh. [ Laughter ] There was a moment when, I mean,

we were two young kids. So we were just doing, it was silly. When we were looking for the donuts. Oh, yeah.

[ Laughter ] It was like a typical, we were looking in a cop car. See if they had donuts in the-- Oh, yeah.

We were kids. And I think the way that we were laughing with each other and how we just got a kick out of such a ridiculous situation. I was like, oh, my gosh, I really like him.

But this is another thing that gets misconstrued. People, for some reason, think that in the past, I've said that he wasn't my type. Yeah.

But what I was saying was, I didn't think I was his type. Yeah. Because this was Mr. Cool. Yeah.

And so I kind of sold myself short and thinking like oh there's no way he must just like me as a friend

When I finally realized that that was the direction it was in, I verbalized t...

because if there's one thing I'm going to do, I'm gonna speak my mind but he looked at me

because he had come to my house for two weeks straight at the time of my parents house. So then he said, "Yeah, you think I've been living over here every night for the past two weeks to play video games with your brothers?" I was like, oh, that makes a lot of sense. I'm glad it all happened. For sure, it's a beautiful kind of reconnection at that point because it's really interesting to hear that story

and then see you guys now with all the stuff you've got going on. Kids, businesses, you know, you're still playing, you're doing your everything, all the stuff. And you guys feel like at least it's my perception from the outside look at him that you work really well together. Can you talk about that relationship now, how that's evolved, given how you've met? Well, from my perspective, the biggest thing is we've learned each other as we've gone through,

you know, even when things get a little rocky or, you know,

“as obstacles you have to go over and people feel stressed out or overwhelmed or whatever the case are, we're always working towards the same goal of being there for each other.”

And I think that's been such a rewarding experience through these 15 years, almost 15 years of marriage. And all signals, you don't know everything either. And you're still learning, you're still growing and trying to have humility through that. I think we try to also approach all of this from like a, it's just a mentality and realizing, like even with the kids, the kids are going to grow up and they're going to leave us.

And so we always come back to center, like with each other and even with all of like the business.

And yes, we're going to try to make an impact. We're going to try to, to do decent things in the world. But at the end of the day, all of this is so fleeting. And so making sure that we, at the center of it all realize that it's, it's us and this together. We vowed to do this together from day one.

And so as long as we keep that, I think, I think that's kind of what's kept us going. Are you sure? I, I love that you are playing spoken in life. And sort of like me, sometimes, you know, you're, you're stating what feels like the obvious sometimes in life. And then people interpret that the wrong way, right?

“And, you know, I love your vulnerability and your honesty, because I think that's what helps people.”

You know, it's, it's like, there's one thing to be #relationship goals. But it's another to tell the truth about what it takes. And I tend to do that when I talk about the challenges of marriage and that it's not all that. It's like, I love my husband. I like my husband, you know. But we also want to be a part of helping couples understand that it does take work.

And it is hard, even in the best marriages. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Knowing that this is a safe space of not judgment. Everybody understands humility and blessings. But it takes work.

And so you don't want to give up on something when it starts to get hard in the way that it's naturally going to be. Yeah. I think anything great takes work. Yeah. So I agree with that. I think we're living in this age right now of everybody wants to romanticize every thing.

Yeah. And that's a beautiful thing. But I think it's unrealistic in marriage at times. Because growth is inevitable and change is inevitable. And I think that's a beautiful thing.

Like if you expect it to stay the same for 15 to 20 years. That's so sad. And there's a problem. We don't run away from the tension on the daily of again. I think I heard somebody say neither one of us can quit on the same day.

No, there's no philosophy of understanding.

“You should know your significant amount of the best and understand when they might be.”

And they might need a low-picked me up or you to carry a little bit more in a low device.

First of all, I subscribe to that philosophy.

But also like the tension in the daily, like we try not to run away from it. You run towards it because you know that that's going to help you get to that next level of

Togetherness or just the seasons of life that kind of come at you.

And so for us, if you feel like something's not, if your marriage is not perfect, you're probably right and that's okay. No, nobody knows what nobody is. How are, let's talk about how you're raising the kids. You know, the values, how you're thinking about what kind of people you want them to be.

Are you parenting the girls the differently from the boys or babies?

No. It's an instrument that never would be too low to girls, that's the younger boys.

I'm grateful that the girls arrived first because when the boys get to the girl's age, now I feel like you'll be done playing and is very important to me for them to have him around more.

“Very important. And so I'm just grateful that that's how it worked out.”

But it is parenting is hard. Like we're sure it is. Especially now we have a 13 year old. She's going to go to high school next year. We're doing a high school period. Is she yet? Yeah, you're right. And I meant any, I'm in an, I'm in an each you. This is extra over here.

I'm here. It gets, because sometimes, well, Barack got scared. You know, he got scared off Sasha. The, the, the feisty one was very scary to her side there. There's a lot of school board washing going on in our house. I thought that we're, why can't I do that and why can't, oh, and how you parent, you have to parent each one

“of them a little different. Right. That's why they get more, they notice that.”

You know, that's, it means something to, at, at all these stages to, you know, just have these honest conversations where your kids can, they can disagree with you. They can point out stuff because it's like, I think that gave us the confidence that you need, when you're out there, at some point, you got to advocate for yourself in life. Right. And if you don't feel like you've been taught to advocate for yourself at home, like, then who, you know, where do you get the

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plate. You're doing it well. Thank you. I had more on my plate and it came to a head where I was like, "Okay, I got to lay it all out and figure out what do I really love? What is important to me? What do I value?" I've really streamlined things. I'd say over the past three, four years, but I'm doing really well. I feel like I'm kind of in a- I don't want to say the words smooth sailing because I don't want to jinx myself in the pair. You'll be doing it in your 60s. The parenting situation

is feeling really good. You know, we had our fourth, and so I'm feeling comfortable in my body again. I'm feeling more like myself, and that's such a good feeling. And also allows me to be a better parent in some strange way, because I feel like I know who I am again. And so that's been really

“great. How do you carve out the space to take care of yourself in the midst of it all?”

I never used to do it, and now I just make it a priority. I don't know how else to say it. I put it

on the calendar. I make it a priority, and I get it often times now, even just forgetting my body moving and getting outside. I just bring the baby along with me, and we get it done, but I find I have to be outside multiple times a week. I notice a difference from a mental health perspective. And so because you can be with four kids, it's like you could be in the house forever. And they have so much going on themselves.

I know, every time we talk to you all, you all are in the car.

The first meeting we had, or the first call we had.

They live in the car. We were at the soccer game, we were at the soccer game, and I was like, we got it, we're all going to go, we're at the soccer game, we're in the sprinter, and the kids were so mad at us, because they don't like when we bring the sprinter to school, because it's embarrassing. Oh, really? Are you kidding? Oh, that's so interesting. Oh, my goodness. I just want to be regular people.

“See, Austin and Aaron are like, can we get a sprinter?”

That's until their parents come out of one. I mean, Malian Sasha never wanted Barak to come to their

stuff with the presidential motor game. You talk about it as a different way. I mean, they're just like, "That just don't come." Why are those men on the roof with machine guns? But they don't, they don't like the sprinter. No, they don't. How do you manage integrating into normal parent life? I know that was something that we had to work on. I mean, how do you make your kids feel normal, I guess? This is a challenge for sure. Yeah, um, you know, worried about

the sleep overnight, sir, extra curriculars, especially with Riley. She wants to be a little bit more independent, and you drop me off here and do this, and like meeting new parents, and not making it a big deal, but making sure there's boundaries around how we move so that, you know, we feel safe. And if we feel safe then it allows us to take that next start, and that's the serious step I feel like to, um, like your kid to explore, right? You want

to be curious, and this is just showing up, I think, the biggest deal that you meet people, you meet parents. We do try to, in terms of, like, especially for, you know, sports activity

“school activities, that's the type of thing where, um, for our kids and seeing, like, that's how”

normal is a weird word, but, yeah, that's a normal experience that we're going to be at your game. We're going to be loud, yelling, going crazy. We're going to be embarrassed and you have to hear your, your, your data for their people's services, and say you're doing that. Do all of that, um, proudness, and celebrate them, right? That's, I think we tried to do that.

The, the social part of it, there's challenges, there's, um, considerations that we never

thought we'd have to, to make or take to, to make sure, you know, you can let your kids kind of go out and throw out, but part of it, too, is, again, still learning, because every year is different. Yeah, it's all so weird. It is, I think we're doing a good job of, uh, allowing them to think you were going to. I don't know how they all did it to the point of the past. You know, it's all the, it's all the same thing, you know, like the girls growing up, they didn't want people to come to their house,

the White House, because it felt like it's not a normal house, and I was like, I guarantee you, your friends want to come. They want to watch a movie in the movie theater. It's like,

"Why would this somebody want to come here?" And I was like, but they do. Um, so it took them a second

to kind of understand that it's not, it is a normal from where they came from in Chicago,

“but it is their normal. Um, and I think it's like everything, our kids reacted the way we react it,”

so if we showed up special. Yeah, exactly. If we just showed up and it's like, look the other way, we're just here. It's not a big deal. You know, then slowly they followed suit and I also found that the school environment followed suit. So they made you where you're, you know, you know, you know, so yeah, it's it's it's wonderful and just watching kids develop, given them what what we can, it's it is it is a joy to go to practice every day with my old self and rickety bones,

but it's it's really been a treat. You want to be as old as him when I know you'll be able to get up and show them some things. I, I, I show them that I can shoot just absolutely absolutely and then that's it. It's one of the kids, one of the kids, one of the kids asked me, today he was so, I mean, these are high school kids, right? He's a senior and he's like, hey Coach Robinson, can you still get up there and dunk? And I felt I felt bitter sweet, you know, it was nice of

him to think that I could dunk, but not being able to dunk anymore was the bitter part.

It's like, can you still jump?

goat? How did that all come about? Because your team was so good. It was kind enough to let us take a look at that. It's coming out. It's out today. So I know we're dating this period. It's out today. So, good. Thank you so much. It's been a seven-year journey. Oh wow. Yeah, animation takes forever. And then that initial process of working with the sunny animation and sunny studios, we had an initial meeting and then the idea of, you know, having an animated story that was

sports related, I was in Broadway and basketball and in all animal world was kind of just a starting point. And my favorite part about the whole thing is there's something for the entire family, so the, you know, our comedy is high pace. I actually, the visuals are stunning in the all animal world. And I should, is the, yeah, the, she's Carol, the, the, the diner, all the shit. Yeah.

Yeah, it's kind of, it's always looking out. But with you guys, we're sort of working through this,

was it always, you were going to be in it as well? No. How did that come about? Because you all put it all down right good. I was drafted over here because I've never done the voice acting and she's been acting her whole life. And so when we had the opportunity to do some of the characters and look at, you know, how we're filling out the team and letting it the draft was the opposite of me as player in a person. He's the layback kind of not really focused. It's just kind of there.

He's been cast around the entire Robo League. He's played for 10 different teams and 10 years. He likes music more than he likes a roar ball. He wants to rap. He wants to rap. He wants to rap. He's a little bit more on the nose for, for, for, you know, the culinary kind of connections for Carol, the diner. But that whole, I don't know how you felt from the voice acting. It was so much fun. It's so different from being on your traditional set. There's a lot that goes into the voice work.

I want it to have a different voice. So bad. You wanted to completely change your voice. So much to change your voice. I want it to be your voice. I want it to be your voice. I gave them a sample and they looked at me after and they were like,

“"Just, I think you're regular voice." I want it to be like, "You don't get any time."”

Or maybe have a Jamaican accent and you're like, "Hey, what's going on? Welcome, what's up?" And they were like, "No, you're regular voice. Thank you." Well, your regular voice was great. Congratulations. You're much way to go. All right, just another thing on this house. How is it working together? I mean, I work with my husband sometimes. And I mean, you are essentially two principles, okay? I mean, it's not like I eshes your

supporting cash. She's got her own thing. Maybe I should ask Iesha. How do you break through the noise of him as you were working to assert what you want your vision to stay seen in at all? Because you would definitely done that. And I know it's more than a notion to do that.

“Yeah, I think that's an interesting question.”

Very multi-pro. But I think, do I, and do I like working with him? Absolutely. I love it. We, we shot a show years ago called about last night. And we had so much fun on set together.

I think where it gets dicey for me is where I, I never want to feel like I'm inserting myself

or like just being thrown into the mix. I think because I work so hard and sometimes I do feel like I have a point to prove. And so I like to be able to kind of stand on my own to feet sometimes. But I feel like he's always been so gracious about either bringing me along or hyping me up or like true, like truly putting me on a pedestal even when I don't want to be up there. And he's been so great about just being such a support system

for me and truly like my partner in crime. He's never been like stand back here or stand right here.

“It's always like, no, you're going to stand right here with me. And I think that's been”

that to me. It's very romantic. Yeah. So I, I love that he's always done that for me and

Been that person for me kind of my, my confidence when it's maybe lacking in ...

easier over time. I mean, I've been saying this a lot. It's like I'm 62 now. And it wasn't until

“my 50s that I felt like I could claim what I know. And I think that may be a woman thing,”

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“What have you learned from Iesha and Iesha? What have you learned from Stefan?”

I've learned from Iesha, what true ambition and passion really looks like on a daily basis, and that's not just career-wise, that's for your family. She lives every day with her full self. I know it's scary and vulnerable at times, because you want to protect yourself, and she puts herself out there. I'm a little bit more reserved, and I respect that fire.

I wish I had more of it.

but on a daily basis, I'm a little bit more even to you. I wish I had that instinct. She has it on

a daily basis, and it motivates me when things can get a little drag or things aren't really going your way or there's not really a clear path to get what you want. That fire and that passion is a big deal. I definitely have learned a little bit from the way that she shows up in that way. It's a lot from a guy who's got four champs. Well, that's all he's got.

“No, I'm a mess with you, Stefan. I think I learned from him on the flip side, or what I would”

like, what was it? What I'd like for me. Learn from what I'd learned from you. I think on the flip side of, he said about me, for me, he is so even killed. And he can compartmentalize really big emotions very well. And he does know how to block out the noise. And so I've learned little by little, I think how to do more of that, because like he said, I am, I'm very passionate and fiery, and sometimes it's works, but sometimes it doesn't. And vice versa. And then I think,

I've learned this unwavering work ethic. I've never seen anything like it, but it obviously

“manifests itself in how things work out for him and his basketball career. I'm like tomorrow, he'll”

be up, 630, you know, working on himself when he doesn't necessarily have to. And so I've just year after year after year, it's seen him do things when he doesn't have to. And then I see the results that come from that. And it's extremely inspiring. Oh my god. Yeah. Thank you. That's a bottle sum of that up. That's a very sweet. Thank you. I'm so proud of you too. All right, we're going to do the listener question, because the listener question will lead to a little more discussion. Yeah.

So our question today is from Vivian in Raleigh, North Carolina. Oh Vivian. Shout out. I am the first

of three children, two girls in one boy. It always seems and the mother of everyone. From my parents,

to my siblings, then to my spouse in 12 year old. I recently lost my dad. So it's been very hard in my mom. She wants me to call daily and respond to all the text daily. I love my entire family. And I want to be there for them. But I'm also registered nurse and I owe it to my pediatric patients and their families to give them excellent care. I am working to go back to school to become a family nurse practitioner, a good medical school. I feel I am not enough. But my husband believes that I am

smart and I can do all things through Christ. I am also a precinct official thanks to your book. Now they want me to take on more responsibilities in phase gripping me. But I really want to do more. I was privileged to go canvas with my daughter knocking on doors. She was so excited about doing what Mrs. Obama did with her dad. My question is, how can I juggle all this and still look

“fly? Be a great daughter, sister, wife and the mom. I think the first thing that comes to mind for me”

is like thinking of the cups and not these cups. But how they say you can't pour from an empty cup. And I think for women, I think that same it is false because generally women have many cups. There are many cups we're dealing with. And so my advice would be your opinion, yes, that's right. Would be, I mean also as women we tend to ruminate on things when we're in a different situation

Thinking about all the other things that need to go on.

realize separate everything into these separate cups and realize when you're pouring into that cup,

it's just that cup in that moment. And to try and tune everything else out, get to it when you need to get to it so that you can fully give yourself to whatever it is that you're focusing on at that time, whether it's at the hospital or with your mom or with the kids or whatever else it is you're doing. I think there will be so much peace of mind if you can just compartmentalize those moments.

“You have to applaud her and her for sure. Yes. The responsibility that she's carrying for so many”

people that she knows and she doesn't know or she's beaten on a daily basis at her at her work. Have grace for you with yourself too. I'd say too because those days where you don't feel like you're you're killing it, probably the days that you're killing at the most. Yeah, but it's also okay not to kill it. That's true, that's true. But having grace with yourself, I guess it's the biggest piece of as you and hopefully she can set healthy boundaries for yourself as she goes to aspire for

what does that mean? Like what is it to be able to support her and her endeavors as well in the sense of like, I don't know how much her mom reaches out or feels like it's maybe a burden at times or maybe not. But if there's moments where she can have the space to go after the things that she wants to and she creates that room for herself that the boundaries out of people respect that and allow her to go pursue what she wants to and that it's okay. Even if somebody else gets the short amount of

“a stick for a day or a week or a month, that's kind of bad. It's not a bad thing. Actually, I think”

I read that in your first book and you said, say no, they will be okay and that's exactly yeah. Just want to work down. Learn to say no. Yeah. Well and you know, Vivian sounds like,

and I say this a lot, she sounds like what I call a 120%er, you know, like everybody around this

table. Like you don't think you're killing it when you were doing, it's like that extra percentage and you feel like, okay, now I'm putting it in. When life can be okay, it's 70% and sometimes at 40% and at 30%. I'm learning right now. Yeah, you're starting to learn and it's a sort of a conglomeration of what we've all said. It's like, you can't do everything at 120% and you can't, you can't and you don't have to and you learn that over time. Like maybe you can't be there for your

mom in the exact way that she wants you to be there for her. And it's okay, right? Because maybe if you're not given 120% to your mom and 40% at time, somebody else will come in. Yeah. But if she's trying to fill all the cups herself, you know, you know, there's no vacuum

for need, right? If you're doing it all, and some people aren't 20% 120%ers, they'll be a 20%er,

a lot. She may be surrounded by other siblings that are just putting in 20% because Vivian's

“going to do all. If you don't need, say you need help, nobody is going to help you, you know?”

So, I say, do less, do less and learn to be okay with it. Yeah. That's, no, actually, I was just doing everything. I was just sitting here. Every time you say 120, I'm like, dang, people probably don't even see the 20. No, they don't. They don't even know what's there. I'm telling here that's in your mind and heart and you're measuring yourself. Yeah. And people are like, you know, like, you say no, and they're like, okay, fine next. Yeah. And I, but I like the cups

metaphor because people don't see all the cups you see, right? You see all these cups, and they're like, oh, those three cups, you have one thing. Yeah. And even though you guys didn't know, yeah. Yeah, they were full cups. That was a good point. Yeah. Well, Vivian, I hope that was helpful. Yeah. But like, like, you said stuff and props to you for, for holding it down. You know, it's like, there are a lot of people out in the world who are trying to do it all. And hopefully,

This, you know, gives you some guidance, takes a load off.

you know, looking out for yourself every now and then. Good advice. Okay.

“Great advice. Well, what's next for the curries? Now, like, there has to be because we just talked about that,”

but I know we're. What do you look forward to? Like, not even projects, but just life. We've over 15 year, wedding anniversary this summer. Very happy about that. Yeah. Congratulations.

But, um, 17th year in the league, see how many more years on the court? Hopefully, it's not over

too soon, but it is at that stage where you start to think about, you know, appreciate every year.

“But then after that, who else? We're very bad at predicting the future. At least I am.”

I said, oh, next year's not going to be that crazy. Right. Right. Okay. I said that. All right. Next. It has been like that for five years. You got to hear about it for me. On the master of the. Yeah, I have, uh, I'm married to one of those. It's like, you just get so optimistic. Right. Oh, my God. I call it poor executive function. It's like, you know, it's going to take a lot of work to do that. And everything is so big. Every, every idea is so big. Just, just exhausting.

Well, it's been great having you guys spend some time with us. Absolutely. Thank you so much for

“dropping all the knowledge and being vulnerable and open. And I, you should take care of yourself,”

your sanity. I will. It's just noise. Yes. All right. The truth is right before you.

And I will fight somebody. Yes, it. Yes, it. Thank you. It's definitely. Take your time. You don't have to leave soon. I got you. I got you. I got you. No, this has been great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for making us feel comfortable. Absolutely. . Over the same old news cycle, tune into hysteria, your weekly group chat with me, Erin Ryan and my co-host, Alyssa Mastermonico, where no topic is off limits. From politics to

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We're kind of like, in the same circle of friends,

If I don't want to talk to you, you're like,

- We have a lot of kids.

- We have a lot of kids.

We were kind of like in the same circle of friends.

When I finally realized that that was the direction it was in, I verbalized t...

Togetherness or just the seasons of life that kind of come at you.

Strengths, even supporting you with interview prep.

The first meeting we had, or the first call we had.

It's like, can you still jump?

Been that person for me kind of my, my confidence when it's maybe lacking in ...

I wish I had more of it.

Thinking about all the other things that need to go on.

This, you know, gives you some guidance, takes a load off.

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