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The Real Report - Pop Smoke’s Mom & Brother on Legacy, Shoot For The Stars Foundation & Black Smoke Fashion Collection

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On this episode of The Real Report, Tony Yayo and Uncle Murda sit down with Ms. Jackson and Obasi, the mother and brother of the late Pop Smoke, for an emotional and powerful conversation about preser...

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When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on?

Biggie.

You put on biggie when you feel uncomfortable?

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You got it today. It's no problem. You didn't get that much. [MUSIC] [MUSIC]

Yeah, this is talking to you.

And this is the boy I'm going to murder.

And it's the real report. Tell him who you are. You're not telling who you are. I got it. We're going to do this different now.

Uh-oh. Oh, we did. Okay, so I did this myself. Yeah, I am Audrey Jackson aka my smoke. Okay. My son is pop smoke.

Rest in peace, pop smoke. Rest in peace, pop smoke. Come on, man. You already know who it is. It's bossy from the philosophy.

He's the triple three. For your mom moved to the side and got time for the last one. Definitely. Make some noise, come on, make some noise. Make some noise.

Yeah, the day. Brooklyn is in the field this. Yes. Brooklyn is real. Brooklyn is in the field.

You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it. You got it.

I know that he had a grievous wick with Queens. What's up with that? You know, it's just, I'm friendly. I'm with you. Brooklyn is in the field.

Brooklyn is in the field. I don't have a problem with that. Rest in peace, pop smoke. You're ready. So the first question I want to ask you.

So my friend out my event.

He always calls me and ask me, you're mental check.

Just to see how you're doing today. You know, you dealt with a big loss. You know, we know him is pop smoke, but that's your son. And that's your brother.

How are you feeling? And like what's going on? Talk about the foundation. Let's just get into it. You know, I've been thinking about that.

I'm just kind of being in that place because, you know, the 19th of last month was six years. Yes. And so that day was rough for me. And it was the first time that, you know,

because normally we have things going on. And then we go online from 10 o'clock to 12. And then we do something else in the evening. I didn't have anything to do that morning. And so it hit me.

And it was, it was hard. And so I realized I've been just kind of been on automatic. From the came to the house, put me in the plane and took me to Cali. And then brought me back. I have been on automatic.

And really that was the first day that I've not been occupied with something else.

That really, it took a toll.

But I'm here. That's right. That's right. And how do you feel, Brother? Because sometimes I see you crashing out on an internet.

I know, I was just about to actually see me go about it. Because you know, Black folks, you see. Black folks, listen. Black folks, let's keep it real. We never get therapy.

I think no, for real. Listen, losing people. I lost a lot. I lost, you know, my dad. I lost, you know, I lost like a lot of friends and family and stuff like that.

Losing people sometimes.

We never think about therapy.

No, you write about it. If kids, nobody said, y'know, who out there maybe talked to somebody. I see you on a net like crashing out.

Like, and I just, that's why I wanted you on the show because I'm like, how do you feel?

Like, people checking on y'all to see how are y'all mentally? That's it. And I think that's the right there. Y'all feel me, like, I think people need to check in and see how mind them is doing. That is some people shout out to, you know, you know.

Do that. She's like, who's that? She's like, who's that? She's like, who's that? She's like, who's that?

Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that?

Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Everybody's supposed to check in like how we're checking in now and do time.

I agree. Like, Drow told me about your foundation and I'm like, yo, I need to go on the show when it's time to get the podcast. We got our man, J.O. here doing some nice paintings for you.

You want to show the first one? Because we can't show the first one.

Let's show them the first one. This is for you. This is for you, Mama Smoke.

Oh, you've been working behind the scene.

Oh, I did this a while ago. Oh, okay. I think it's only right. And in it's so crazy. You make sure you get it on camera.

Let's get that on camera. When I heard the name of the foundation. Uh, you're letting the secret out. You're letting the secret out. You're letting the secret out.

That's for you. That is beautiful. Thank you. That's awesome. I get to you.

That is to the camera, brother. So that's the camera. Shout to my man, J.O. He's one of the best out here. I'll make sure you're following my Instagram and everything.

Thank you, Mama. Shout to Mama Smoke. We're going to put that in pop's place. You. Whatever y'all want to die.

That's for you. Yeah. All right.

Whatever you need towards the foundation.

More paintings or whatever. He's willing to work with y'all. You'll take his full of shirt. Y'all met her every day. We go together.

We go together. We go together. But the young people, yes. Absolutely. That's absolutely.

Absolutely. That's beautiful. Don't. That's dope. No, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You. You. We go. We go shout out to the.

We going to give. Shout out to the point thing. Yeah. Yeah. Teddy is.

Oh, yeah. Stacks. Okay. We know we got some of the people from online to that come through. Uh, you know, on pop smoke.

You know, saying that show love. Yeah. Some people from the church, you know, but, um, the people that y'all would think should be tapping and not tapping in. You know, academics already had an interview with Fabio already ran down on him on the internet.

Hey, you ran down on Fabio? Like, yeah. Just be. But why don't. It's like you.

You. You. I. And this is what I'm saying. This is my.

You don't feel like that. She. Mom. I love that. No.

No. No. I just got answers. at the end of the day, when you say you look like for instance, if I was to die right now, my friends don't come, support my mom and my family, ever, ever. That's an issue. I'm not saying you got business and you flying out and you got stuff to take. Everybody got to get their money, bro. I would never want to see a black man not get no money. I'll tell you on that. But if you're talking about yo, I'm right at die, yo, we don't woo. So for the start, I got a title on me. That's it.

So you see, as the first board, he has expectations and he also feels an obligation to cover his mother.

That's right. I only have a hand. If you show up, you supposed to be there. You don't show up. You have supposed to be there, right? I don't. Those were people who knew him were a part of his world. Um, on the ride for whatever it is they were going to get from being there with him, not mad at you. Don't abuse me. Don't use me. Right. If you're not dealing with me, you're not dealing with me, but don't come through when you need a favor. Right? Because it's about being real. Um, so I am not as upset as he is. He's upset. Yeah, he is. Because, you know, it's his brother.

And so because he knows of them and he understands that if they are who they said they were, then they should cover us a little differently. But the fact that you're not covering says you are not what you say you are. Forget us, my mom. Yeah. I'm a whole person. I'm going to take care of me. You feel me? Definitely. Why is mom? What are they supposed to do?

What you're doing, the foundation and things that I saw.

How long did you have the foundation? We started in 2021. Like he, he started the paperwork before it happened

and then we formalized him about April of 2021. And so that's what we started kind of doing things.

You know, with a community. Okay. It's like the 21 year. He's saying you're getting no support from like the rappers in the other type of. But you don't fairness to them. They were being blocked. Like everyone that I've met that I've had the opportunity to meet.

Every last one said finally.

So it's like they were looking for me but couldn't get to me. Right. Because I think there was an intentional. We say block or you think it was blocking or no. Uh oh, we're going to do this. When I looked at pop smoke, what made him important was because it's like every couple of years New York get this big star. And he was the big star.

That you know what I mean? He, he had the confidence. He had the, the look, the ladies love them. You know what I'm saying? There's a shape. He came home. He was doing this thing. Everybody every song he put out was like a guarantee team. Smoker hit. Yeah. It was a smoke. So it was different from me. He had the city turned up. He was one of them. He had records with Travis Scott early in his career. He started doing movies. You know what I'm saying? 50 love them. Everybody loved them.

I mean, my first time meeting was was a tycoon weekend in Jersey. And that was like my first time meeting him and seeing him.

He was just blowing up, blowing up, blowing up. You know what I'm saying? He was doing this thing.

Yeah. So it's just, it was just different when we lost him. It was a different kind of loss. So, so on my mind, I'm like, let me get them on the show because you see what they're doing nipsy in the marathon. I feel like y'all should get that push and that same promotion on our platform. Okay. Okay. And so what's blocking this? Then I make it as big as it needed to be. Like who's blocking the like that now?

No, I don't think it's doing what it needs to be. People say they're industryed. Like you. That's just like sometimes the word, it be certain people behind. Like you just, I like, You see how you doing your due diligence right now, you bring this on the show? That's a step forward. There's people who already got the muscle who got the statue that you felt has got. Who don't do that. That's blocking in my eyes.

Yeah. It's not the same. Oh, don't go over there. But it's what's over there. Do you understand? Got you. Now we quiet. Why we quiet? You're a love pot. For me. But it's about this about the intention of your heart, the characters that you are, the character that you of who you are.

You feel me? That's what I'm referring to when I say when we say block.

Yeah, it's okay. I've got you. That's what I'm going to get the better understand. Yeah. You need to wait. We paint them all right? Yeah. Yeah, that's that. What part of the paint them all? Everybody. What's that?

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I tend not to listen because it's still hard for me. I've pulled out certain ones to do like when we did our first fashion show for the fashion line. I pulled out the meaner because that's the one that woke me up in the night. As I woke up, it was on the TV and it's just everything just kind of rolled down from there. I think I like shake the room.

Okay. I like shake the room.

That's the one with the video from when he was in Paris, right?

That's the one I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just, I like the story behind that. Okay, you know, took over somebody's restaurant. I'm just wiling out and they love him, I like shake the room.

I just like the concept of, you know, we're going to shake the room. Yeah, you're getting here, we're going to shake the room. What was he like growing up as a kid? As well as as well as you. They were regular children, they went to church, they went to school.

I like to say that we went to a performing arts church. So there were, you know, there were programs that were done where they got to dance and sing and drum and learn how to use all these things that you guys are using in here. That was the part of what they did. Yeah, that's part of what they did.

They were regular kids. Like kids, I tried to expose them to as many things as I could, right? It's let me throw it all again so I want to see what sticks, you know. We, they did, what did you all do? They did, they've done the basketball, they did baseball, they didn't tennis because, you know,

the city had the free tennis, they could, I'd stop showing it at the golf.

I think they were going to be like, "Oh, my God."

He's going to protect you, too. Yeah, they did the book and she's football, you know, the football mom. Okay, all right, all right, so I just tried to, you know, keep them busy. Yeah, you know, you know, you had them covered by as many people as possible. Got you, got you.

How do you feel when you first started doing the music thing?

I didn't really know what was going on.

I mean, I think he came home, like, he came home and told me the story about ...

He came home and he shared with me when he had a piece with them, David, David, but there wasn't a whole lot of, not with me anyway, conversation about what was going on. Okay, you know, um, but my, my philosophy is you give them the room to be and when they become, you know, you hang in there with them definitely, right?

So when I found out it was like, wow, the truth is, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the bigness of it, I did not know until it was gone. Wow, that, you know, you could, because somebody could come to my house, say, back your clothes, put me on a plane, walk me through the airport, I ain't got to go through nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a thing. Mm-hmm. That's a thing. But I think it also speaks to the humility of him as a person, right? I think there was pop smoke

and then there was sharp, right? And I think he was intentional about keeping us or at least me, because I know, oh, I see, oh, what's the separate? At least keeping me safe. And I think it was a thing for him that making sure I was good. Like his brother, this is brother, you know, man to man that can take care of each other or take everything, but as his mother, I think he needed to make sure nothing would touch me, right?

And I think so the less I knew, the better off I have, of course, I was. And so that's how he kind of

kept it. You know, so the one two moments that he was really proud of, like he would feel like, wow, those got shared, but as a rule, he was just doing what he did. Got you. Got you.

Is that Steven Victor reaching out to you guys? Oh, no. Now, Steven used to be on our board the first

year. He was on the board. The person who was really stood by us, in shame. Then I was really stood by us in shame. She had been with us, she was still with us. We had our first, what I call shareholders, stakeholders meeting with his, you know, staff board members, and and ship showed up. She got off a plane from Cali, went home, shower shamed, and came through. Look at that. Right. So, you know, you take, I heard someone say you go with the goers.

I don't think it's upset that everybody who should come should come. Yeah, because I don't go with the folk that show up. Yeah, right. Steven Victor used to come out a little long ago. Why? Why? I'm just surprised. Oh, he did. What does it serve? He should come to me without me. Made a lot of money. Is that? And he was no longer there. So, that opportunity is no longer there.

That's what? Yeah, I'm being on loyalty. So, for me, it's just, I don't want to call him out

enough in, but I always call him in the mouth. That's kind of calling you on him. I mean,

well, that's your opinion. That's kind of, yeah, it's my being calling him in the mouth, but you know, he was calling. If you're sure about now, what's the, what's the goal of the foundation, what, like, what's the goal? Right. Just, you know, I like to serve our pops. Let me come with you. I like to call him. Right. His whole intention was to give back to the community. Back to give back to kids. You hear the different stories. You took off the

sneakers and gave a little boy. His whole, he wanted to buy a whole set of laptops for a, you know, a classroom. His whole intention is to give back to different people. That's why even when he was up and coming in the industry, he would bring people with him and Steven, even Steven said to me, you know, he told him, you can't be bringing people in like this. They're going to steal your stuff and he was like, nah. You know, so people who got there, you know, got their

comments because he was like, I can share this. Definitely. And he didn't, it didn't block him. Right. My understanding that their times that people who needed just sounded like that first downpayment on the car, he did that and then they were on their own. This is the reason. He came to do what he did and he did it. And so for those who want to participate, they can. Those who don't want to participate, don't block. That's all I've asked you. Yeah, it's all I'm asking. Just don't block.

And if you block him, you know, we can look at that. We might put you on blast on them. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're going to put you. We definitely going to put you on blast between doing the right thing. The brother smoke ain't been in a lot of you dudes. That's it. Well, like, listen, but no, honestly, you shoot for the star's foundation, man. We just hear trying to tell the vision, making that vision, you know, come to life for real. You know, I've been with my mom

throughout this journey. It's time for rebuff heads, but I love it. That's my mom. I'm never

going to be beside you for me. And we've been in the community six years now. I've seen kids, some of the kids from around the way, grow. They've had aspirations. We've helped them. We was in the back in the, uh, uh, the, uh, the Rex and over there and bave you one year. What, what, how many years ago? No, it was on the first time that we had our summer program and bave you. Yeah. So we was helping kids. We was giving them, uh, the arts, you know, saying dance and acting. I was doing a little film

with them, stuff like that, you know, saying in music. I was helping kids who wanted to rap and saying, I was just like, "Oh, let's learn how to song right. I'm gonna bring my laptop because I

Would just school for audio engineering and stuff like that.

do that." And, um, that's what, that's what it's all about, bro. It's just about giving back because I

know when pop was here. That's what everybody in the hood would, they would give you a story about

how he came through and he was just showing love. God, do you feel me? So that's what we hear for God, do you? God, do you? Get back to those who, you know, saying who they're for you? Well, you think pop would have been familiar right now, I'm using, that's out there right now. We think he would have probably like him, brace. He's like, "Oh, you think pop would have raised, man." I mean, he was doing records of Travis Scott and big records. Yeah, is that's, are we talking about, he's watching

now from heaven like who he would be jacking or if he was here, who he would be? If he was here would be just sitting out there different story because I feel like there would be, it would be a different energy. You feel what I'm saying? So I ain't jacking none of these dudes because he had that type of energy. Yeah, so it's just like, it depends like if he was here and then people would be moving a certain way then, you know, I don't know, he probably still messing with the

mind then, but I don't know stuff died out, the drill died out. I think maybe Casco, Ben, he probably would have, he would have, you would have Bob. Okay, you know what I'm saying with, you know, Lola, you know, saying she's from Brooklyn too, right? Yeah, I can't, I can't really tell, I really don't, he's a very diverse dude. But I'm doing records of Travis Scott, who else he did features with Fabio, little TJ, he didn't do too many features. Yeah, I'm saying, like he would have, it's just,

oh, Quavo. Yeah, like you just, you probably would have kept those same, you know, saying, if I would have did something like in the Caribbean as baby, maybe Shenzhi and all of them people,

like, but you never know, I don't know, I don't know, because he was so diverse. Yeah, it was hard to say.

What's your favorite part of smoking? Oh, Hawkeham. Hawkeham. Hawkeham. Earlier. That's right. Early. I don't know, like something about that energy. Oh, and brother man, because, you know,

I just about morals and principles. Oh, that's what I'm saying. He's so different than all of these

artists. He stood for something. No, he stood for something. But you listen to some people music nowadays and y'all noticed coming back from a place where music actually had so, yeah, substance. Yes, definitely. Don't stand on nothing, bro. Oh, I mean, he has songs for the club. He has songs for the women. He has songs for the streets. Mm-hmm. So that's why I've 50 embraced him so much, because it'd be, be, be, make that you put him in 50 next each other and look like brothers. Yeah. So when he had the quiz, his question is no. No. He has something

other than I ask him who his mama is. It's me. And it wasn't you and me. You got the same last name, too. Yes, that was great. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. So he was a gentleman. So whenever we was in the office in 50, we were saying, um, part was on his phone. And he thought he was texting. He was like, oh, he was like, now I'm writing down. You're not. You're saying, taking down, literally, you got that from his mother. Oh, if you're talking to me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm right. So I,

I don't have it. I walk with, you know, like a pad in the pen, because I need to, you know. So when I heard that story, I thought it was like thought it was funny. Wow, he was paying attention. He was paying attention. He was paying attention. But you wouldn't, when you want to remember what people were saying because it's valuable. And you want to remember how they said it. And you want to be able to go back to it to refresh your memory. Mm-hmm. Then you write it down. Unless you've got those kind of

memory that you can, you know, record everything. But, you know, if something is valuable to you,

you want to take note in the brain. What do you need us to do for the foundation?

Everybody, not just the whole culture. What do you need? Well, when we have events for people to show up, this, we intentionally last year, I started to focus on sponsorship, right? Because what happens is because I'm Popsmoke's mom, no one thinks you need money to get the work done, right? But if my money pays for one worker, imagine what I could do if I had two workers, right? So that's your money. That gives me that second worker, right? So the foundation piece is again, obviously said,

tell the vision, the curriculum that we have of the community is called, tell the vision and we work

with young people about critical thinking and, you know, just through the arts, right, to discover

self and to be able to just kind of move from self and see who you are in the world. Some of those young people that we had in the beginning, I remember one young man said he didn't realize, he could write rap without cuts it. That was deep for me. Because so then what he learned was, if you rap, you just put a whole lot of curse words and that's the song. As opposed to using words that describe what you're feeling and thinking, right? Now that's content, right? Old school,

what he was, brother says that is standing on something? Because if you just cut it and you just cut it and put a little rhythm behind it and it's a song or you express yourself and people really get something for what you're doing. So again, sponsorship, come on out when we do things, when we are out for you to kind of come out and do something for us and just be, you know, just be present, just be present. We want to be a zoo, but you know, we would like to

End this new rise, the rappers put some money up, money always helps.

money to help out, because the tea gets your man to help out. Yeah, come on, let's go. Man, let rest there.

Let's just be well, man. Shoot for the stars, foundation, y'all make sure support and show love. Show love when you're not here, when somebody's not here, and when somebody is here, show love, rest in peace, pop, smoke. Okay, I black smoke collection, one of these rappers could come in and then bring in some new audience. We got the fashion line, they could come,

do a, we could do a, all right. I heard that in the fashion, could you have to win the fashion,

could be a model real quick and put whatever you need from us. We got show, I heard about that. You could talk about the fashion show. So black smoke, it is our fashion line, and this is,

we started in 2023. And so we have the pop smoke gala at the Brooklyn Museum. Okay. Right.

So we do that. We've done that, like I said, for three years in each year. What we do is we put out a call for designers. We put out the call for designers, and we interview them, and then we go through them, our designers must be able to sketch, right, must be able to make your pattern, put it to muslin, and make your sample. Now if you can't do the patterns, we have people, at this point now, we have the creative director who can help out with that. But we really are looking for

designers. Right. It's no offense to those who can purchase some blanks and make it look good.

That's one thing. But I'm looking to be a fashion house.

My plan. So the fashion house? Well, as you said, that I got some most real. The Ruchi, and he can help you out with some. And this is also the black smoke. Yes, this is, this is, this is here, yes, this is, this is, whatever this black jacket. Mama smoke, I don't know if that's part of the line, right there, man. Come come around. Sure. Yeah, of course. They end up with so people that, definitely black smoke jacket. Black smoke jacket. I don't know fashion show. We got to catch the next one. Mama smoke patting with that jacket.

We're all we're a part of, especially. Yeah. Right. We had a role show, especially. Okay, I like that jacket. Five, get your Ruchi. Sure. We got the Ruchi. He's design and clothes now. He's hat. He's, um, we see the Ruchi. He's the guy up to the stars, 50 cents, dark little baby, the baby. He's done jackets for everybody. Stiles P. J. The kiss. Make sure you're getting his number. He gifted. Yeah, of course you're being gifted. Come on, I love it.

Of course you're being gifted from here. Yeah, of course you're being gifted. Try to get my boy around, man. And definitely, we need to, you know, definitely. He can help y'all design anything y'all need. Do I? It's not mine. I'm not talking to you. That's not coming on. Come out of the Ruchi. Thank you, Ruchi. Let us to the stars. Now, she can't do better. And remember, I said, I said this up.

Okay. This guy, when you come on and show, look, it's cool. You're doing fashion, shelter black smoke. All right. Now, that's just another connection for you guys. Whatever y'all need, definitely. Man, definitely. So what does the legacy mean to you? Having your brothers like a see-out there? What does mean to you? What does it mean to me to me to have my brothers like a see-out there? It just means like, what do you, what do you, what do you want to do with your brothers like a see-out?

I just want people to remember and forever, you know, saying, whether it be streaming the music, whether it be support and the foundation, whether it mean buying and supporting a black smoke collection, whether it mean being on the show with Tony A.O. and Uncle Murdoch saying, thank you, the last thing we want to do is hand.

That's all that that's what I'm saying. It's black people supporting black people and people supporting people at the end of the day.

You know what I'm saying? We've been having the gala every year, every year since to what? 2,23? Yeah. Every year since 2,23, July, 20th we got past smoke day and a little bit before that is the gala.

No, so he is a child born in a Tuesday. So the gala is going to be the third week of the July

on the Tuesday. Because of when his birth date is in that week, the gala will be on the Tuesday. And so the world has the Met gala, right? Or Manhattan has the Met gala. Brooklyn has Brooklyn. Brooklyn. That's right. Let's go. Let's go. Brooklyn has the past smoke and then we've been fortunate to be able to hold it at the Brooklyn Museum. Right. You know, so we've been doing it there. We do the fashion, so like I said, we invite the young people to submit their designs.

We interview them and then we choose eight to do the show. And from the show, I try to keep it to four that I like. Right. And so the four pieces that I like, we then have them do that full process of the sketch, the other parts, right? And then submit that and then we pay them for the design.

Then we use those pieces as the main stay for the line and then add pieces to...

And so we've had an amazing group of designers that and I see I was fortunate that the first set of four

that we that we had stayed with me through the whole process. So I didn't have to figure it out by myself.

They stayed. They they volunteer their time to make not only make their garment, but to make the accessory pieces that go with their garment. And so that's kind of like the pattern that we've kept. And so this year and each year we have the previous year's designers participate in something else. Right. So we've been fortunate to go to Spain. We were invited to Valencia. And we technically, we had our own fashion, we can Valencia sponsored by yours truly.

And so we've done that and so those designers got to come with us. Right. And then the following year because now we've started something right. So we've got to go back. So we're in Valencia the first

year and then in the second year we were in Barcelona. And we worked with a university, a fashion

university there, BAU. And so we had it in their space and we had workshops with their young

people conducted by me. It was just a wonderful opportunity and they want to not just do the

fashion. So they do kind of the fantasy fashion. But they wanted us to work with their young people who they feel like they need a little bit more grounding. And when they after they graduate with the fantasy fashion, how do you make that a business? How do you build into the world and make this thing that you've been studying for four years? Make money for you. Right. So we've done. So we've done Valencia by Barcelona. We've been invited to Portugal. We didn't

purchase. We just dropped things. We just dropped things. Right. Things just dropped. We did set the wild. And what they did with that show was that they gave us our own night. So you know they had all the design of it, but we had a pop smoke night. And so that was all us, all our designs. They provided the models of course. We had an opportunity to go to equatorial Guinea, but that kind of fell through. Because it's just sponsorship for them. And they had to move it. And then when they

moved it, it didn't work with our schedule. But we've been blessed. So like there really been things that just dropped in my lap and I've had the ability to run with it. You know, to say yes and go. So it's been an opportunity not just for us, but I really also want to take the young designers who showed up and made their designs and take them with me. So this year when we go back to Spain, the young people who's designed we used for this year's line, you know, one into them we'll get to

go go with us. So again for the exposure and we hope to develop the relationship with the university. So even that level of exchange can can can be in place. You know, so really being intentional about working with young people and giving them an opportunity, which is what Shard did. Right. He really tried to give back in a way that gave people a start, you know, somewhere to go. If you've got it and you want to do something with it, here's an opportunity now. You don't do anything

with us, not on me, per se, right? You know, but I'm giving you, I'm making that moment for you. So you can see if you can do something with it. And so I try to keep that in my mind as I develop as we go along. I'm trying to do all the things that he said to me, he wanted to do.

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please a little bit bigger than he didn't attend it. Let's see what it just kind of a little restaurant

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But we're going to have a really nice space that we're going to do a soft open at the end of March. While we're doing pop-up shows to then start the, you know, clothing line moving, getting it the word out there. Because I think what we've done so far is that we've made a presence, folks know we're out here. So now it's the tough to find out who our customers are, right? So we try to have an opportunity where we get folks in food, some good time. We share your work.

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