Episode 653: The Du Pont Foxcatcher Murder Part II - The House of the Butterflies

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“Yeah, I mean, I'm not super looking forward to it, but...”

I mean, as someone who said, "Foreco ice cookies at this point." The medication has actually gotten quite a bit better. Usually the taste of it now? No, no, no. It's efficacy.

It's like used to be... I think you're just like the process. No, but they used to be used to be used to sit on the toy that all day long, like painful diarrhea. And the stuff they give you now, it just turns everything in your stomach and the water. And it's just like a fire hose coming out of your asshole.

As long as it's not painful, it's not... And you're filling my day, because that's kind of one of the hardest things, especially between gigs. Yeah. You know, especially when I'm trying to fill my CEO time. Yeah, I fill your day.

That's like a great way to do it. Yeah. We're ready to go. Ever once in a while, I want to do it just sometimes when I'm feeling a little heavy. Yeah, I get it.

What could you hear? Just do calonic. I can't, yeah. We'll blow it out.

I've never done a calonic.

It's semi-sudo science. You did it? No. I was looking out. It just blows old shit out of your asshole.

Yeah. And when I say heavy, I just mean, I don't mean, like, I feel heavy. Yeah, I feel like I need to... To poop. Well, get it out of you.

Yeah, I'll jump on your stomach. You know what I found? Shake your butt. Yeah, sure.

“You ever thought about getting the held upside down and slapped all around?”

Not by you. I can do it. I got to put you on my back and adjust your round. Like on a big pony. Oh, play a play in games.

Yeah, alright. Yeah, play dishwasher. You know what I find funny is that every single old bastard ever met my life. All told me that I was going to get more conservative. Yes.

And that time and the weight of age would finally wiseen us to conservative ideals.

They didn't count on you learning about murder every day. You know what? They really should put more warnings on books. And what they do to you, because they're still even as the resident capitalist. I'm the Satanist capitalist of archery.

Yeah, that's right. That's me. And I'm still out there fighting the good fight, making sure I take it. I take it. I take candy from children, resell it to them for the opportunity for them to learn about business.

You need to start doing this. Take candy from children and give it to poor children. Great idea. And then go ahead and take it. If they don't have candy from icy pork is without candy.

I charge the poor kids for a not having candy feed. I got excited. I got excited. Poor kids. They make kids on a pork.

No. They don't be a turkey boy.

“Well, you're saying you are getting less conservative.”

As you grow older. I am getting angry or angry or angry or angry or angry. And the documentary, I'm going to go ahead and say that Eddie made me watch about this subject. That would be the double you know? Yeah.

The double we know. Fantastic documentary. Yeah. That was more unpleasant. Then any Josef Fritzel coverage.

I'd rather watch Josef Fritzel have sex with his daughter. And watch that documentary again. That's how sad it was. Josef Fritzel had a plan. Yeah.

He was locked up. I'm going to last broadcast on the left. Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Marcus Parks. I'm here with resident capitalists.

Satanist. Henry's a Browsky. I'm thinking about ruminating. All right. You're going to ruminate about the capitalism.

Absolutely. But I will say. Yeah. Yeah. I will say Josef Fritzel wasn't locked in.

The daughter was. Yes. And the man with the headband. It's Larsen. I do.

And now Marcus. I don't like to critique your work. But I was reading through your script. And I noticed a couple of mistakes. Like every time it says to pot.

It says to pot. And not like a thick black line. Yeah. That's Kevin. This is way too.

Yeah. Yeah. I used to reading redactions. Yeah. It's almost like my brain just puts redactions.

Do pot has a D and O and N and a T in it. So it clearly should have been redacted. And you know. Oh no. Ed's deep now.

He just talks about the dotting teaming. I just get that. Oh my god. I mean, and if we unredacted all this, the whole system would fall apart. Edward, don't you know that?

Don't you know that the Dow is above 50,000? Oh, but there's, but there's like so many names in your script that like, hold people accountable. It's kind of Andrew. It's kind of Andrew.

It's kind of Andrew. It's hard to handle. It is hard to handle. It is our handle. But we're going to fucking handle it today.

Do the Pambi, Andy. Can I ask a serious question? Sure. She says, hey, the president's a pedophile and we're covering it up obviously. But the Dow is over 50,000.

Why are we talking about that? Sure.

market has been separated from the presidency, that's what you're telling me.

Then, is that his crimes are not affecting the market? That means we could really get him now, right? Yeah. He's a more troubled than he's ever been. The markets do in great.

That should show you. The market's going to do fine. Let's get some guillotine's going. The market will hold. And you know what?

We're actually going to prove that point again. And again, today, the market will hold. Yes. I just can't believe the cousin fuckers won. Hey.

“That's why you called things to the chest.”

The country was being like your niece.

Country was built by cousin fuckers. Some actually, some of the best Americans we've ever had or cousin fuckers. We're going to get into it. Well, they have lots of assessments. Some investments.

You don't get a great return of them. An assessments. So when we lost. So when we lost. So when we lost, the DuPont family and this continuing coverage of quite possibly the most evil family

in American history, World War I had just wrapped up. And journalists were referring to the DuPont's as the merchants of death because of how much money the DuPonts had made selling munitions to the allies during the war. The DuPonts were also starting to dabble in cultural manipulation. That's, of course, with the boy Scouts of America.

And this was in addition to the decades of governmental meddling.

This was all in response to the rise of communism and Russia, which the DuPonts had taken

personally because the murdered Russians are Nicholas II. He'd been a good customer.

“But even though the DuPonts had made an ungodly amount of money making products that were mostly used”

to kill human beings, they were about to enter a decade where they would begin to have an effect on just about every aspect of human life in the century to come. And I'm not just saying American life, I am saying human life. As it turned out, their truly was not a limit to the greed of the DuPonts. And as a result, they would straddle the 20th century, is not only a family that was involved

in many of our deadliest wars, but also is one of the worst offenders when it came to introducing the forever chemicals that are continuing to kill people around the world every day. In other words, there's going to be a lot of death in this episode. And the DuPonts are at the center of it all.

If anything, this episode will prove that the darkness of this world was shaped to an outsized degree by the decisions made by the DuPont family. Okay. I'm going to do a little think tank here. Okay.

Now let's say we're all CEOs of a company. Okay. Right. Let's do a podcast network CEOs. Okay.

All right. Now let's just say. Fire. Fire. Fire.

All right. Imagine. Imagine. Come out. Podcasts cause ear cancer.

Sure. Okay. Before we face allegations, before we get to the Potomburg trials, which we're home for a cry. They will get to them.

There will be recognition. Yeah. Three years from now, it's going to come out that podcast cause ear cancer. Yeah. And right now, this is an internal study that we've done saying that podcast cause ear cancer.

And we're getting the message in. Marcus, how do we spin this?

“Well, if podcast cause ear cancer, then the only thing that we're going to need to do”

is we're just going to have to go to video and subtitles because subtitles read the subtitles as I am talking. We've already solved the problem. Yeah. It wasn't for this new rash of ear cancer.

There would be so much less ear cancer research. That's a real CEO right there, creating jobs. Now as I said at the end of the last episode, the 1920s with a decade in which the DuPonts would have the largest impact on American society outside of providing gunpowder for all our wars and our various colonial conquest across the continent.

See the 1920s were when the era of mass production and modern consumer society truly began. The birth of the modern world and the DuPonts were right there at the forefront of everything. They guided the construction of this new world by having a big say in how it worked, who was in charge and most importantly, how money was made.

The 1920s saw the birth of the white collar worker, the regular middle class Joe with the office job and the DuPonts knew that they could continue to get away with anything just so long as enough of those white collar workers believe that they could one day join families like the DuPonts in their depravity and their greed. As long as the promise is there, that's all you need.

Those people will keep voting against their interests for merely the promise. Yeah, exactly. If you think that one day that you could be a billionaire, you will want them to not get

Exactly. You're like, oh, yeah.

I'm gonna be a billionaire one day.

That's when I'm about to get here and one of the super key things and I'll tell you

“right now, if you want to get a leg up on getting into a billionaire family, you have to”

just develop a taste for you to browse and gills and all come if you can just build yourself up to that, just get into that mind space, you might have what it takes to be a billionaire. Yeah, we're being hard on the DuPont fan. I honestly, I've been saying that at home at my money.

Yeah, I told my money out, I apologize to you, I'm sorry. But wasn't for them to be no toxic Avenger. Yeah. Yeah. We're Lloyd Kaufman.

Oh my god. They just are professor at Harvard. But the DuPonts also knew that they could not count on constant war to keep their bottom line high. And since the conquest of the American Indian had been done and dusted for decades by

the 1920s, a sad for them. The DuPonts knew that they needed to diversify, so the DuPonts purchased a majority stake in general motors at the same time the automobiles were becoming an integral part of American culture.

“Now, in the company general motors are just motors in general, a good question, the company”

general motors. All right. The DuPonts also acquired die patents for the paint used on those automobiles, so the DuPonts made money twice on the car and on the paint.

The DuPonts also produced the first cheap cellulose film, which allowed the fledgling

motion picture industry to increase production dramatically. We wouldn't have the motion picture industry of not for this. Finally, they began acquiring or creating entire chemical industries that would produce such modern miracles as shatterproof glass, rayon, and cellophane. No, no.

I'm trying to get rid of all my fake fabrics, man. Yeah. All your polyesters? Yeah, it rubs on my nipples. Yeah, it hurts my nipples.

It does. Now, cellophane is important here. cellophane had no practical use when it was invented.

“So the DuPonts, seeing the new consumerist world for what it was, they created a use for it.”

They put a team of scientific researchers to work to see how they could best use this thin, clear plastic. And it was discovered that cellophane was a great way to wrap products like bread or cigarettes. If you've ever bought a pack of smokes, you've given money to DuPont. Pack a cigarettes that is wrapped in cellophane gives money to DuPont.

That is just one of the tiny ways in which they make money off of this world. Man, I love that little wrapping paper.

I used to always like, whenever I used to like sell weed or like I'd pinch a nug off, you

know, you take that off, put the two nugs in there, then you lay it with a lighter. Yeah. So you can burn it and put the plastic into the weed. Yeah. Yeah.

We all did, you know, not a single person that didn't put two hydrocodone and no cigarette. Oh, I can hold the wrapper and burn it with a fucking lighter and then take those later on, open it with your teeth and then take those forever, you know, when you're going to work. Obviously.

Oh, man, when I used to smoke so much like that, like the high point of my day would be taken the cellophane off of the, uh, out of a new pack of cigarettes. Like there was no happier moment than taking that off. Pure joy. Pure joy.

Is there any reason to pack cigarettes? I keep to love to do. I know that. It keeps them a little fresher. It's that's the thing.

It helps a little bit. Like that's the thing about cellophane. As all of us, it helps a little bit. You know, it does kind of keep things fresher, but it also produces ungodly amounts of garbage. Can you talk about the bird's love it?

Yeah. The bird's life has a new opportunity to have new media. They don't love it as much as the fish, because the fish, I mean, if they didn't want to have their stomachs filled with plastic, why keep eating it. I'm lying in the water.

Yeah. That's why I keep my plastic. Yeah. Got that morons. No, the non-explosive chemicals created or bought by DuPont would actually be the biggest

money makers of the 20th century. They began making lacquers, varnishes, acids, paints, and artificial lovers. Pleather. Then they would hire a team to turn each and every product into something marketable. prey on, for example, was an artificial silk made from wood pulp created by the DuPont Corporation.

Rayon textiles are used for a lot of shit, but one of their big uses in everyday American life was artificial silk stockings, which became hugely popular and eventually evolved by the 1950s into pantyhose. Yeah. And if you weed it in like rip it 'em open so much with our teeth, I wouldn't do so well.

So many people seem to get kind of a natural, almost unholy joy.

And while pantyhose might seem like a small thing, this shit adds up.

“Yeah, for some people it isn't a small thing.”

Somebody, not let it go, huh? You just kind of stuck right in that pantyhose. Yeah. Fettish. No, no, no, it's a fascinating thing.

So you're saying that the DuPont family directly contributed to one of your personal fetishers? No, I don't have that. I'm just saying it's generally objectively fascinating for anybody to watch a woman who is stuck in a well or in a way that's, I'm mostly, I'd say most general, both of the people

are summoning stuck in a well and she's a haunting girl, she's wearing pantyhose because she's obviously mature. Yeah, true. Take it around. Bigger in the back area.

Yeah, right? You got a ball around by 'em. Yeah. And then yeah, they're objectively sexy thing of accidentally ripping 'em open as you're

“pulling her out of the well is one of those things that I think everybody can connect to”

and relate to. Are you describing the episode of Pretty Face that your wife was in? She did the video, she did the stunt, work for it. Yeah. You know, this became awesome somehow, you know, everybody likes pantyhose.

But that is to say, this shit adds up.

And by creating the product first and finding a use for it's second, the DuPont's greatly

helped with the creation of the highly wasteful American consumerist lifestyle. There are indeed paired with their incredibly effective advertising department, which they're advertising department alone employed thousands of people. This soon made the DuPont's the head of the world's largest chemical empire. So they were basically playing like who's line is it anyway, props with random shit around

the office that making billions of dollars? Yeah, I put a potato in it, well, the potato swing, how many people are swinging potatoes? I don't know, Barney. What if we wrap the bottom of a woman in it?

Wait a second, what is that feeling? Yeah, I just got hard. Yeah. And as we all know, Jimmy getting hard is a number one sales team, a number that means that if he gets hard that this is going to be a big seller, so put that wrap on that

woman. Oh, did they ever make condoms? I don't know if they ever got in the latex, I do know. Probably the shit that kills the sperm. Yeah, they might have gotten a spermicide, yeah.

They were, they might have gotten in the latex. I know they got in a spandex, we'll talk about that later, a ton of synthetic material, like mylar that we, you know, the thing that we put comic books in, you know, like the plastic that mylar comic, like they invented that, so much shit. Oh, that's so great, right?

There's so great, why am I not playing? No, because the deposits already had their hands and car manufacturing and painting, it only made sense that they would try their hand at fuel as well. And here's where we began exploring the true unabashed evils of the DuPont's chemical dominion.

See, while the DuPont's did not manufacture commercial automobile fuel itself, they did create and manufacture the so-called lead in leaded gasoline. And this manufacture would have an incalculable negative effect on American and world history. In early 1920s, a scientist working for the DuPont control general motors discovered a chemical compound called tetraethyl lead.

Tetraethyl lead made engine combustion more efficient, increasing both fuel economy and vehicle performance. Sounds like a good thing overall. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, let's go.

Let's go. I want to go back and push it out. Straight ahead. But after DuPont built a chemical plant to manufacture tetraethyl lead in a Southern New Jersey township, ominously called Deepwater, they found very quickly that tetraethyl lead came

with dire consequences.

“What if this is why Jersey does a pump the wrong gas?”

Yeah, for health reasons. An extremely short order, DuPont discovered that the tetraethyl lead manufacturing process made workers go violently insane. DuPont employees at the Deepwater plant even began dying in raving delirium, which soon led people to refer to tetraethyl lead as loony gas.

That's so fun. Loony gas. Oh, it's like working at the joke factory. It was only laugh. What?

Oh, to have a DuPont community, I can be a part of. I like farts. That's my loony gas. We're a fart party. Good time.

We're bleeding out of your ears. I'll eat it. I love his attitude. Love his attitude.

He's always going to be number one in my heart.

Now, the already creepy Deepwater chemical plant soon gained an even creepier nickname.

“People began calling it The House of the Butterflies.”

That's nice. No. No. No. Can you begin?

Yeah. Look at this. Factory on a hill in New Jersey is like, be home. The House of the Butterflies. It sounds like a fucking like Neil Gaiman place where they put children that are like,

like, you first think they're being brought to a magic school.

Yeah. And it's like a prison? No. Yeah. It's where they grind up their bones to make magic dust.

Yeah.

“I like going into the butterfly gardens with my little nephew, because he's, I mean,”

he ate like four last time we were there. Right. Yeah. Was this one taste like? Who's this one taste like?

Is this one? This one might be raspberry. I'm bringing ketchup next time. It was called the House of the Butterflies, because workers affected by the tetraethyl fumes would try to snatch invisible butterflies out of the air.

And many drew butterflies on the brick walls of the factory. The fumes? Yeah. Fucking insane. So fun.

Very cute disease. Well, that's all I call it. Loating. Yes. What a wonderful way to celebrate diversity.

The fumes from tetraethyl lead can be absorbed, not just through the lungs, but through simple skin contact. And like many of DuPont's chemicals, it is totally resistant to all forms of detoxification. In other words, once it's in the body, it stays there.

And it builds up until the victim finally succumbs to lead poisoning.

Amongst many other terrible symptoms, like seizures, vomiting, and headaches, lead poisoning can also cause diminished cognitive function, mood disorders, and irritability, and when you add a violent personality into that mix, you got all the makeings of a serial killer. Fuck you! And hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey

You've seen the pictures of what LA looked like in the '50s and '60s and '70s. It's better than it ever been, even for when I first started coming here. It is extremely better. Let's find a fucking sunset, so fucking brutal for you! You've ever done you look at a sunset, and you see that nice slice of green?

You think the pot, okay? Oh, it wouldn't be so nice if it wasn't all for the chemicals making the birds gay! Yeah, bro! Everybody knows the sky's supposed to be purple! This bird's got two peaks, that means extra food, like a bird!

Well, as more cars hit the roads of America, and more let it gas was used, the crime rate in our country, steadily rose. It's thought the fumes from let it gas were most harmful to kids, that all the exhaust coming from the tailpops of these cars prevented the full development of a child's brain. While it didn't necessarily make a person more violent, exposure to tetraethal ed made

people more likely to act on violent impulses. The reason why we think let it gas cause developmental problems is because gasoline containing DuPont's tetraethal ed was not only in use, but it was the standard in America, from

1823 until it was finally banned in 1986.

Now the crime rate in America didn't suddenly drop in 1986.

“We all remember that the '90s were rife with violent crime.”

Because it was also very deeply hidden in the poachery, ridden by our very sensitive artists like Tupac that's right, but the crime rate did begin to sharply drop a few years after let it gas was banned. Unless you think that I'm confusing causation with correlation here, many countries that have used in banned let it gas have seen the same rise and fall and violent crime at roughly

the same rates on roughly the same timeline as America did. And no matter what these pieces of shit in our capital are trying to tell you, we're actually at the least violent point in American history as well, like we're actually in a place since where we have despite all the mass shootings, despite everything we're still at less violence than ever before.

Yeah, the safest America has ever been right now. Weirdly, isn't that fucked? Yeah, I think, yeah, New York City, even was happy, you're literally creating a problem in Minneapolis to solve it. That's what you're doing, yeah, yeah, and Camden used to be the murder capital of America.

And then everyone got murdered.

Yeah, I remember that too, yeah, you remember how awesome last year was, yeah, let's go to Delaware.

Still considered murder if it's a dog.

“Yeah, Barney, for you it is, no, you might also play Devils Advocate here and say that”

there's no way that the DuPont Corporation knew what kind of effect let a gas would have on the public in the long term. But as we'll see again and again with the DuPonts, they knew exactly what Tetraethal Ed did from the very beginning, and they did everything in their power to cover it up so they could keep making as much money as possible.

Shortly after the Deep Water Chemical Plant opened in the early 1920s, a worker named Frank Durr who'd been working for the DuPonts, there's no other way to say that name besides Durr, he'd been working for the DuPonts since he was 12 years old, and he started

working with Tetraethal Ed at the age of 37.

And Durr had been a perfectly normal man prior to Deep Water, but he was soon plagued by terrible nightmares after working with Tetraethal Ed. He eventually lost grip with reality completely and was sent to a mental asylum where he died in a straight jacket.

“This is a coastline, this is a coastline, I had a dream, I had a dream, and it's real.”

What was it? It was a car, it was an ultra-lapy car, it's sort of talking to me, no funny voice and I kept kind of laughing to myself because I kept complaining as sudden as he was saying, you say stuff like, "Let's get her done!" I saw another car in a Mexican accent, he was so funny and goofy, I just, I want to

live in that world! I would only live in a car base world! You know, there's no fill in that movie. Yeah, because guess who the villain is, the Capant, making people who hallucinate that it's fucking real.

Well about five years after Frank Durr, five workers at the Deep Water Plant began raving incoherently before developing uncontrollable twitching and convulsions, reportedly all five of these men died screaming indelirium from the effects of tetraethyled poisoning. This is in the 1920s, and America still had 60 more years of tetraethyled use to go. I'm sorry to have laughed, but there's just something about somebody just going, "Ahh!"

“Look at, I think it tapers, I think you don't necessarily just, it's not like”

money Python's, and then fall, it's like that'll hold the jokes sometimes I scream myself "Oh, this one thing the DuPonts do, just as well as chemicals and munitions, it's public relations." So, DuPont's PR team got to work dismissing the severity of what the so-called "looney gas" was doing to its workers.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that the DuPont's PR team pushed or even created the term "looney gas" in reference to tetraethyled, to make the whole scandal seem silly and less dangerous. Now, DuPont did indeed reduce deaths from tetraethyled poisoning in their plans, but hundreds continued to be poisoned.

These people would be treated, then sent back to work, where they'd be poisoned again. In one 18-month stretch, 300 workers were poisoned, causing hysteria and extreme anxiety. Eight of those 300 died, and even though a 1936 investigation showed that the poisons and deaths

were caused by neglect and lack of safety precautions, the DuPonts were never punished or even

charged. Instead, they continued manufacturing tetraethyled. The fumes from the exhaust coming out of every single car in America eventually poisoned much of this country to one degree or another. The resulting brain damage caused untold amounts of death, destruction, and misery through

the violent crimes caused by those who were poisoned. Several killers were just a part of it, and hell, besides the serial killer epidemic of the 70s, 80s and 90s, one could even argue that the lowered inhibitions of the hippie movement in the 60s might have also come from tetraethyled poisoning. And it's also why their brains are so fucking pickled that those same people that tried

to create a big civil union, like civil rights, March World, they would then become the group of people that would subjugate us all. And would vote wronged Reagan in the office, and also there is why the boomers are so fucking awful on the internet, and in the community, and the government, they really can't. They can't regulate their motions, they don't know what's going on, they're extremely

mean and disorienting. Yep. Quite possibly. But of course, that's just speculation. I just could judge.

The DuPonts couldn't be bothered with what was happening to their workers at plants like Deepwater. After World War I, many DuPonts became the new American multi-millionaires.

family. Nice. Yeah. And each yacht had like a cute name. Like long was called the "Gadfly."

That's funny as hell. Yeah. That's DuPont. Hard work all around, everybody.

“I'm doing the thing that the kids do now, when they click in their fingers together because”

children have become elderly African-American people. DuPonts profits continued to skyrocket throughout the 1920s because they made money off every road and car built in America. They had hands and every industry involved from concrete and rubber to steel and paint. Their financial executive at the time, John Raskob, increased profits even further by

maximizing the output of products while minimizing the cost of labor, which was bad for the worker, but great for the investor. Speaking of investors, the DuPonts were also one of the main companies who manipulated this stock market throughout the 1920s to maximize their wealth. Businesses would go under as a result of this stock manipulation and the DuPonts would

buy those companies for pennies on the dollar. Of course, that stock manipulation eventually led directly to the stock market crash of 1929 and the great depression that followed. And it can be laid directly on the feet of the DuPonts amongst other business leaders. And of course, this cost even more untold misery to millions across the globe.

I'm going to make another little speculation here. As we said in our Himalayan series, if we didn't have the great depression, Hitler probably wouldn't have ever gotten an in the power because the crash of Germany's economy effectively opened the door for the Nazis. So did the DuPonts cause the Holocaust?

I'd say, kind of, I definitely didn't help. Yeah, you know, like the stuff didn't help, the rampant sort of like unmitigated growth, like a tumor in the center of the stock market, an entire industry kind of zone. I think that didn't help, but what people don't talk about, though, is that if there was no great depression, how do we know what it's like when things are good?

“You know, and that's the silver line, that's what I'm trying to say to the table.”

It really is.

Well, that's truly important. Think about how amazing it would have been, right?

We didn't have the great depression. Yeah. And then it's like our whole vibe's off. Yeah, like nobody got through. Fucking nobody got through.

No east of Eden. Do you want to? Come on. It's worth it. Steinbeck, everybody loves it.

Fucking laugh a minute. Everybody loves it. Big black pearl. Yeah, if there was no dust bowl, then, you know, it would just be on a plate. Yeah, why would, why would maids exist?

No, just as it had been with the boom and bust economics cycles of the 19th century, the dupons were far too rich for the great depression to touch them in any meaningful way. While profits did drop after the crash of 29, just one single dupont, Pierre dupont.

He was still able to profit $26 million in 1932.

That's down from 31.5 million prior to the great depression. To be honest, though, it is a bit of a disappointment that the share of her is a bit of a disappointment of the shareholder. But I'm talking, that is personal wealth, that is personal wealth of Pierre dupont. But while the dupons were still making unimaginable amounts of money, the majority of Americans

were suffering because of their actions and the actions of other wealthy Americans. And so Americans elected Franklin Delano Roosevelt to the presidency in 1932 to try and turn the whole ship around. The Roosevelt was himself fabulously wealthy. So wealthy, in fact, that he did indeed marry his cousin, Eleanor Roosevelt was his

cousin. She didn't even have to change your name. But after the wedding. It's so nice to skip a fucking trip to the court and to the civil, civil, civil, civil, and the DMV and stuff like that.

“I think it's cool to marry your cousin if they're gay.”

They never kissed. Yeah, he could shove his fingers with his seat up into her. I've seen that happen. They had sex with each other. Yes, Eleanor Roosevelt, her sexuality is of course a matter of debate and discussion.

But they did have sex. But FDR also had his own, he had many, many girlfriends on the side. But that's the interesting thing is that it hurt Eleanor every time that he did. So which tells me that there was some sort of a definitely like relationship there.

One thing we all we will know is that Eleanor was always on top.

She had her own house that would look at the other house. Yeah. It took quite a few minutes. Yeah. Honestly, it's a really night.

That's nice. Yeah. And she did have like this route because I went and went to Hyde Park. I was we were asking, of course, we had a like private tour. And Hyde Park is fucking amazing.

It's really cool. Yeah. I actually really like the FDR presidential library is really cool. But so, but when we went, we're like talking to her, but like, hey, what about Eleanor

You know all this stuff?

“And then she's like, well, yeah, she did live with a woman in their house.”

But she also was bangin' this dude and she showed me like a picture of this like strapping

man, like holding her and stuff like that's a secreting guy. Yeah. Yeah. She was just partyin'. Yeah.

Eleanor was just... Eleanor was just horny spot. Yeah. Yeah. She was a swing and lady.

Yeah. Great. Eleanor Roosevelt, quote, "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." Yeah. Right.

She also one of my favorite quotes of hers.

Literally. I should have brought a snorkel. She's got a real Steve Bushemmy face. All right. All right.

I'm gonna get out of here before you start in on the fucking Eleanor of Roosevelt's face, Joe. But Eleanor was, in fact, Teddy Roosevelt's favorite niece. She was part of the Oyster Bay Roosevelt. FDR, on the other hand, he was part of the hide park faction of the Roosevelt.

But that's all it was established that Roosevelt was fucking rich. He was the cousin of a recent president. But despite Franklin and Eleanor shortcomings like, for example, the later internment camps, they still genuinely gave a fuck about the common man.

In the Roosevelt we're often seen as class traders, Bob, by people like the Deponse,

as a result. So, the Deponse were not happy when FDR was elected president. But they were somewhat satiated when Roosevelt told them that he was more than willing to work with them, rather than against them when he took office. But happiness, of course, only lasted as long as it took FDR to actually implement

policy. See, the inflection point that we're at today with AI is extremely similar to the one faced by America during the Great Depression, and is also very likely that the AI bubble is going to lead to another crash like the crash of 29, sometime in the near future. Instead, we're going to wake up and be God in the machine.

I'm sorry, Peter Taylor. I don't mean to disappoint you. No. As it is now, technological advances in the 1920s had changed the fabric of American society, because more goods and services were being produced with less labor.

But if people had no money to buy those goods and services, then the whole American system collapses, and FDR knew that. So FDR used the government to tip the scales. He created public works projects to not only build infrastructure, but to fund jobs in the arts, theater, music, and history.

All this, of course, had to be paid for, but instead of putting the burden on the lower classes, FDR simply raised taxes on the extremely wealthy, a novel fucking idea. And if there's a single politician listening who cares even a little bit about anything other than gaining and holding power, FDR's New Deal programs and policies paid for by taxing the wealthy, they were some of the most popular and successful programs in American

history. Yeah, they brought us food back. I will say, man, we're talking a lot of mess, but I'm pretty happy that my tax dollars went to kidnapping the president of Venezuela because I think that I was completely worth it.

“I got my own little bucket of crude, that's what you guys have to understand.”

You don't know, is that if you hit a certain marker in money, I get a bucket of crude every year. Yeah, I can do with whatever I want. And honestly, this year, I'm just taking it to the beach, you know, you don't have to really take it to the beach because all those little sewer grates, you know, it says

there goes right to the beach. Yeah, but if I don't drive to the beach, then how am I going to contribute to the pollution going to the beach? Oh, yeah, that's why I said no way, Mo. Yeah.

Obviously, I pick up an order or way, Mo and empty way, Mo, yeah, to go there and not. But there is a reason why we're talking about all this because raising taxes on the rich, that put FDR squarely in the DuPont's crosshairs. Roosevelt made the DuPont's even angrier when he implemented the Glass-Steagallact, which prevented the kind of stock manipulation that had led directly to the Great Depression.

Glass-Steagallact, by the way, was repealed in 1999 by Bill fucking Clinton. And it's repealed led directly to the Great Recession of 2008. So, yes, this shit is necessary because FDR was raising taxes on the rich and putting rules in a place that would prevent average Americans from getting fucked over on mass. The DuPont's and other business leaders became convinced that they had to prepare for a literal

civil war to prevent their America from being destroyed by so-called socialist. Does it sound familiar yet?

“And this is simply because the government was like, you should pay taxes because the DuPont's”

were not paying, like, you got to pay taxes, like, sorry. And sorry, you can't engage in games that might cause the stock market crash. You can't do that anymore, and they're like, "Sivowoo!" And I literally will make, maybe, like, 2% 5% less, like, this is a thing that your

tiny network of, like, why aren't you, why aren't you done a life show on the moon yet?

Why are you, where's your, where's your, like, it's a kind of shit where you're like, what are you fucking talking about? All I know is 33% of my money is the same as 33% of their fucking money. God damn right. And so, in 1933, the DuPont's joined a cabal of businessmen in an attempt to actually

overthrow the United States government. This came to be known as the business plot, or the Wall Street push. This was an actual coup that was attempted in this country. The plan was to overthrow FDR and install a military dictatorship that the business community could control, with a general named Smedley Butler as a dictator.

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We're going to go to Frank Butler, but these like your names up Evelyn.

“And we really should just, honestly, I think we should hear him out.”

I'm really going to see a place. The Butler was approached by a Wall Street broker with all the details of the plot. But Butler actually, he was a loyal American. He was immediately appalled. He was, however, smart enough to hide it.

Butler continued getting information from the broker until he had enough knowledge to testify in front of Congress, where he revealed the plot and the people involved. And tell me again if this sounds familiar, but all the plotters had to say was, "Nah, I didn't do that." And not a single one of them, faced consequences for trying to overthrow a democratically elected president. It's like they caught a mid-Coo.

They were like, "So we caught everything." They were like, "Oh, oh, yeah." I didn't do that. I mean, us? Me?

Nearly joshing, sir.

It's the first minute, not in this country anymore.

Is it a good one? Yeah. After FDR was elected in a landslide in 1936, the DuPont's pretty much resigned themselves. I saw how he got around. [laughter]

[laughter] Some what's pretty good. Some what's pretty good. [laughter]

“That's how one brings both of our presidential huskies to Poland.”

[laughter] Well, after that reelection, the DuPont's pretty much resigned themselves to working within the system. And they soon discovered that it really wasn't that much different from one they'd already been working within for a hundred years. They were still able to hire the Pinkerton Detective Agency to infiltrate labor unions and prevent those guys from striking in the north.

And they were still able to recruit the KKK to terrorize and murder black workers at their facilities in the south. The DuPont Corporation actually went on a bit of an invention streak in the 30s due to a scientist named Dr. Wallace Carruthers, who developed over 50 patents for the DuPont's. Amongst many other products, Dr. Carruthers invented DuPont's most profitable product ever. Nylon.

Nylon is used in fucking everything. Oh, yes. It's in stockings, curtains, underwear, hairbrushes, toothbrushes, surgical sutures, guitar strings, fishing line. Y'all the pants? Duh, that's spandex or lycra.

Yeah, whatever holds it in, yeah. So, yeah? [laughter] Yeah, it's far too many products to name here. It's not why they're hard to rip.

[laughter] Because that's so frustrating when a woman is bent over inside of a well and she has to... [laughter] These set guard ones and they just don't rip.

“Did you find a website that's all well pornography?”

Oh, absolutely not. [laughter] Well-based.

No, I would never do something like that specifically.

Is that why you bought Natalie a bucket for your interview? No, that was because of all my chum. [laughter] So much chum. Really?

There's enough of the fetishes and stockings and almonds. Well, it's just some of our ripping of... You know, it's the wells. Well, I like the trees. [laughter]

And like stonework. [laughter] Well, sadly, Dr. Wallace co-rothers suffered from depression throughout his life and shortly after developing nylon, his sister died, he also felt like he'd run out ideas.

So in 1937, curothers died by suicide after ingesting potassium cyanide in a lonely hotel room. God, that's gonna be so bad in the middle of what guy's in here. He's just like, "Oh, I just think, oh, God, I wish I could turn the light on it."

[laughter]

Oh, fuck, he would've been a bitch!

[laughter] [laughter] [laughter]

“Now, even though nylon would be the dupons most profitable product,”

don't forget, there's still a munitions company. Oh, wow! And while World War One had been incredibly profitable for the dupons, it was nothing compared to what they would make from World War II. Now, the dupons were what you'd call earlier adopters in the Second World War.

As early as 1925, that's just six years after the first wars end. The dupons were illegally smuggling arms to warlords in Manchuria, and they had full deals with the Chinese government by 1929. Depons, however, were all about playing both sides, just so long as one of those sides wasn't America.

The dupons also invested in the Japanese military. Wait a second. [laughter] He's got a really fun, super smart. And when Japan invaded Manchuria in 1931,

one of the earliest conflicts of World War II, and also led to such horrible events as the rape of Nanking, they did so with munitions bearing the name Dupont. Dupont also sold powder and dynamite all over Europe throughout the 1930s.

And they even invested over a million dollars into Benito Mussolini's chemical industries

in fascist Italy. And so, when World War II began, the Dupont name was all over the battlefield. We were trying to work with Mr. Mussolini at a lot of wonderful ideas, but I do feel like the Parmesan gas is not really as effective as it is, sort of just making the men gather where it is,

and they're eating it over their head. It's delicious. Yeah. It's how. Yeah.

Nobody needs some non-stick teflon on that loose. [laughter] I'm a free. I see a leg. [laughter]

I'm like a soap. [laughter] Now, I'm sure you're wondering by this point how the Nazis play in all this. And let me tell you that Duponts do not disappoint. Fuck yeah, Dupont yeah, don't leave a fucking set on the table.

Yeah. See it was illegal to sell arms to Germany after World War I because of the Treaty of Versailles. So, in the 1920s, the Duponts got around this treaty by arranging for the Germans to quote unquote "steal powder and dynamite" in Turkey. By 1933, the year Hitler took power, the Duponts were smuggling shipments of munitions

into Germany through the Netherlands. Then, they purchased a 20% stake in Hitler's largest German munitions manufacturer. So, yeah, this is just business guy. Yeah. It is business.

Well, I mean, speaking of business by this point, and this is something that goes way under the radar and American Senate munitions committee had agreed to allow American companies to sell munitions to Nazi Germany. To be fair, British and French munitions companies were also selling to the Nazis in 1934.

I mean, how else are they going to win? Yeah. I mean, I'm just, do you understand?

“Because they got a real return on their investment, didn't they?”

Yeah. But regardless of who all was doing it, the Duponts were indeed one of the companies supplying the Nazi war machine in 1934 in advance of Hitler's conquest. As a result, I'm willing to bet that more than a few polls were murdered by Dupont munitions when the Nazis marched east a few years later.

Deponts, however, remained publicly neutral regarding the rise of fascism in Europe until, of course, America entered the threat. They really wanted to distract the Polish. They could have dropped a lot of sheer pantyhose. Oh, over the little villages, filled with wells.

So many wells out there on the little villages. And just imagining all those little, the peasants struggling with the pantyhose. That really would have-- The Goronski's and the Balonski's. And the Blusk vits.

The Gorski's. The Gorski's for certain. How many fucking killbasa you could fit in pantyhose? Well, I mean, you know what? Yeah, if they're long.

But behind the scenes in the highest levels of the United States government at the 1930s, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his cabinet

“made a secret industrial mobilization plan that would have 20,000 factories,”

including deposit factories switched to the production of war materials.

In 1940, Congress approved a $17 billion arms program.

And as we all know, World War II did indeed do quite a bit to get America out of the Depression that was of course caused by families like the deposit. So arms manufacturers got us into it and they got us out of it as well. Who wanted little-known facts about America's involvement in World War II is that DuPont did have an inadvertent role to play in Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.

She's silk had been Japan's biggest export. But DuPont had effectively replaced silk with nylon.

Japan saw this as an effective declaration of economic war.

And while this, of course, wasn't Japan's only reason for attacking America, it absolutely contributed to the decision.

“And honestly, I'm trying to pull- I said this before,”

but I'm trying to go back to all the old fabrics. Yeah. Trying to get back into it because they're made better. They feel better and it's nicer. So it's like, you know, silk is nicer than nylon.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just more expensive. My pants are made out of lambskin.

Oh, no, no, no, no. And also what's nice is natural body. Makes you kind of smell like it's Eastern here. Bad. No one's America got into World War II.

“The DuPont didn't really have a problem with FDR anymore.”

Depont produced 70% of the explosives used by the United States during the war.

4.5 billion pounds of explosives in all.

They also sold 38 million yards of nylon for parachutes. 93 million pounds of cellophane to wrap rations and drugs. Paint to cover the holes of the entire United States Navy. And 51,000 miles of DuPont film to capture the action. This, of course, is only a fraction of what DuPont made for the government during the war.

Not to mention what they made for the Allies. Night states military, for example. But 11 million pounds of the incredibly cancerous insecticide. That's another DuPont product to delous troops and kill malaria spreading mosquitoes in the Pacific theater. From where?

Yeah. No, I had that. I have mosquitoes too.

“And from what I remember, the cessation of DDT use in New York City is why bed bugs made such a huge comeback when we all move there in the mid 2000s.”

So there's trade-offs. It's actually a DDT's having like a reconsideration moment. Like it's kind of funny, like even saying now that they think that there might have been, which is hilarious. The idea that now they're like defending DDT. Yeah.

To come out and say, it might not be as bad as we originally thought it was. And now they're starting to say, actually, the damage that bed bugs ticks mosquitoes do might actually equal out to whatever other environmental or health disease DDT does to you. Breast cancer. That's a DDT causes. And sure if it was testicular cancer, people would probably have a lot more to say about it.

But since it's breast cancer. Ah. Well, because you don't know. No, no, no, even though. With testicular cancer, it's like one of the most.

You can fix it, so. And you also got the cancer special. You get to beat up. Great time green. Got a lot of mileage out of it.

You did. And then without breast cancer, I wouldn't wear pink in October. Thanks, Miss Piggy. Now, by the end of World War II, the deposit profited the modern equivalent of 13 billion dollars, which proves that there is still plenty of absolutely obscene profit to be had even when these people pay their taxes. But out of everything that the DuPonts did during the war, if there was nothing more destructive than what they contributed to the weapons America dropped from the air.

And another surprising turn, the DuPonts were intimately involved with the Manhattan Project. Now, Los Alamos was the site where the atomic bomb was built and developed. But the military needed a company to process the radioactive fuel used in the fat man and little boy bombs. So, General Leslie Groves, director of the Manhattan Project, he approached DuPont to see if they were interested. Now, the DuPonts were hesitant, because the conditions were participating in the Manhattan Project,

so that they couldn't profit off their work, nor could they hold the patents to anything they produced profit later. I don't know. Well, in the end, the DuPonts did it for America, I suppose, and agreed to participate. As long as it's an atomic bomb, we will work for without profits. How many people can it kill at once?

We'll do that for the love of it. Yeah, love of the game, absolutely, of course. How big of a hole? How many Japanese? Yeah, absolutely. Let's do it twice.

The DuPonts response is responsible for so many deaths. This is just a change to name to the Vatican. Got you Chicago pop, suck my dick! Now, in short order, DuPont built the Oak Ridge Plant and Tennessee and the Hamford site in Washington State. These were where we developed and manufactured nuclear materials for the bombs that we dropped on Japan.

And since there was no profit to be had, it seems as if DuPont's standards were safety were even lower than usual.

At Oak Ridge and Tennessee, for example, 50 million pounds of uranium chips were simply stored in dumpsters and buried in shallow trenches.

Is it cool that these mounds are humming?

I have this paper mask on. I'm gonna be okay, right? Great, great, great, absolutely.

“Because it's like, it's green over here.”

I can't see anymore. Is that okay? It's a common site. If I'm to burn out, that explains the singing bush. You were saying horrible things earlier.

Because we go with the slurren birch this morning. We just changed that bush to name the George. That's the hampered site in Washington State.

It is believed that the DuPont company allowed 400 billion gallons of contaminated waste to seep into the earth.

All this shit naturally found its way into the groundwater at both locations. As a result of this incredibly lazy disposal, some workers at Oak Ridge had a 900 percent increase chance of getting leukemia. While workers and locals at Hamford reported elevated instances of thyroid ailments, infertility, miscarriages, deformed babies, and of course leukemia. And all of that is in addition to the fact that these sites, DuPont sites,

produced the uranium that was used in the bombs, dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

“Both of which were brought to you by DuPont.”

Okay, and all of this is in addition to the fact that these sites produce the uranium that was used in the bombs. Drop on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Both of which were brought to you by DuPont. And here comes the data on the ground once again in that DuPont car. Yeah, no, they are responsible for the deaths of a million Japanese civilians.

Yeah, that's, and that's for starters.

Yeah, actually it's not even for starters, that's like for medals. Yeah, I kind of cut in half because we're already in a war. Yeah, right? Now the time of bombs were not the only DuPont product dropped on Japan from the air during World War II. The DuPonts were also massive manufacturers of one of the most evil wartime products to ever be used.

Napal. Honestly, yeah, it's bad. It's really bad. Developed at Harvard in 1942, Napal is a fire weapon. It's a jelly agent mixed with gasoline or diesel that allows it to spread across large areas and it's served itself into every little crevice.

All while it burns at temperatures of up to 1200 degrees. My question is, like, we've seen this weapon used for just like Agent Orange. Wasn't the idea was it to clear out foliage? No, no, because I didn't. The idea was skews, quote unquote, the excuse, like with the Agent Orange idea was to like kill all the plants.

Well, that was Agent Orange. No, and Napal was used specifically to destroy cities and kill civilians. And just kill wanton violence. Yeah, why it really is just used to kill and destroy. I mean, as far as how hot it burns to put it in the perspective,

cremation started at about 1,400 degrees. And Napal's chemical makeup allows it to sustain these temperatures for a long time, well, also generating massive amounts of carbon monoxide. That means that Napal suffocates you while it simultaneously melts your flesh. I mean, a lot of things on YouTube say you begin your cremation to 1,400 degrees,

but I've actually been doing a lot about like sometimes you can get a better, my yard reaction on the body if you start on a cold slab. And then turn up the heat. Yeah. Well, the reason why I know that it wasn't just for defoliation is because when they started going up in front of

Congress, you know, people were starting to say, okay, this Napal is the worst, however, people do plant and at what was the other end. Dow chemical would say like, no, no, the point of Napal is that it removes all the oxygen from the air. So you suffocate before you burn. Yeah.

That's the whole, but it's actually, it's actually very humane. It's hard because you didn't have like five congressmen in three of them are going to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I can spray it on some little girls. Yeah. Well, Napal was invented at Harvard by Louie Pfizer, who interestingly was the same guy who developed

“certain important blood clotting agents and anti-malarial drugs.”

Oh, he just like clots. Yeah. Napal was actually made with natural rubber, which was hard to get. But here's where the DuPont's coming to play. Why I'm skin.

I don't know what you're doing. When Dr. Pfizer approached DuPont with the problem, the, hey, I got this great stuff that burns a lot, but I got to use natural rubber. DuPont, they brought standard oil into the game and all three of these people work together

And thus, DuPont made it possible for Napal to be cheaply mass produced.

“Yeah, but also those little bouncy balls in the quarter machines.”

Oh, yeah. You can make those, too. Yeah, fun, dude. It's like, you know what's nice. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm my little fidget cube.

But this is probably made with DuPont products. Oh, yeah, yeah. But you know, look, there's so much division now. It's just so nice to see these companies getting together and like working on a common idea. Yeah.

It's nice. This is the third space that we've been talking about. It's where CEOs can meet and destroy the world comfortably. The Napal was primarily used against Japan during World War II. And I really don't think it's a coincidence that Napal was used in the decades after

on mostly non-white combatants. Because it seems like it was seen as too cruel of a weapon to use against those of European descent. And there's proof for this. Did they just not have it in time? No, they had it.

The fire bombing of Dresden, for example, was magnesium based that killed about 22,000 people. Fire bombing of Tokyo, however, the deadliest air raid in history that primarily used Napalm. And burned or suffocated nearly 100,000 civilians.

On March 10, 1945, cluster bombs were dispersed over Tokyo with incendiary bombets filled with 1.2 million gallons of DuPont made Napalm.

And by the end of the operation, a quarter of Tokyo was simply erased off the earth by DuPont products. And also the chemical used to make synthetic rubber in Napalm also causes cancer. Oh, well, that's just if you kill it. Obviously, you literally threw it. No, I know about the people who make the Napalm.

They're also getting cancer in the plants from making the Napalm. Good for marking with the synthetic rubber. That's great to hear.

“Honestly, it's nice to see because the only time I make incendiary bombets is when I'm done getting my root, root pair made Napalm.”

Because I got that super authentic spicy time, man. Oh, I'm making some fucking bomblets. It just to think about the numbers here on that. A hundred thousand people, you know, we just kind of like move past that in two days. It's in two days.

Pearl Harbor was 3,000. Yes, and we have a fucking holiday. So 9/11 was 3,000. This is week old 100,000 people in two days in Tokyo. Yeah, where's their holiday? Yeah, where's that holiday?

But we don't have it. They have remembrances. Yeah, but they don't have barbecue. Oh, do they have fun with it? Do they have a dance?

Oh, did it? It's a really celebration. Japan, get on it. Be better, do better. Now, after the deposit spread as much death and destruction as they could across Europe and Asia,

they turn their sights south after World War II, using another one of their non munitions companies. This one, however, had nothing to do with chemicals. This one was all about food. See, it's a little known fact,

but the DuPontz had held a controlling interest in the legendarily evil, united fruit company since the 1920s. This was the company behind South America's so-called banana republics. Now, those of you steeped in history know that united fruit is part of the reason why large parts of South America are still fucked to this day.

Basically, united fruit turned South American countries into single export economies,

where the only thing that mattered was how many bananas they could produce. I eat, that's where the term banana republic comes from. Workers naturally rose up against the horrible working conditions imposed by united fruit and DuPontz, but because DuPont had far more freedom to be evil down in South America, amongst a powerless population, thousands died as a result.

So, where DuPont had to be a little sneaky about busting unions in America, down south, they showed what they would do if there were no guard rails. In countries like say, Colombia, they could use government soldiers to simply open fire on workers. This resulted in tragedies like the banana massacre of 1928, in which up to 3,000 protesting workers were murdered and dumped into either mass graves or the ocean.

They just open fire on these people.

“You have to like take hold these people accountable, and that's why I shop at the time of Obama.”

It's a really good, a very responsible thing. I honestly, I'm just glad that no bananas were hurt. Well, the banana massacre of 1928 just because the bananas are innocent here. There are. But by the 1950s, DuPontz united fruit began working with the United States government directly

because the Secretary of State under President Dwight D. Eisenhower, John Foster Dulles, as well as his brother, CIA director, Alan Dulles, both of those guys had done legal work for united fruit. Everybody, I don't like everybody being family members. Yeah, it's like the same names keep popping up over over and over again.

elected a president who had instituted sweeping reforms that included redistributing unused

“united fruit land to families and rural farmers.”

I mean, I voted for Guatemala Harris. I think it's too stupid. I think it's too stupid. I think it's too stupid. Because you know what?

Makes no sense at all in any way whatsoever. I see Guatemala Harris on Revolved Gregory. I see a small chubby Filipino drag queen named Guatemala Harris. I see that too, yeah. Yeah, well, Guatemala.

You're like, well, figure it out. Let's go. I want to figure it out. If you ever want me for celebrity drag grace, Martha Sparks, I got it locked and loaded. It's ready to go.

Henry's a brow ski. Literally just brows like with the brows capitalizing. Yeah, Eady Larson. Very good. Well, the ponds united fruit.

They didn't like that the Guatemalans had democratically elected a man who had socialist policies.

“And since this all had the flavor of communism,”

DuPont contacted their old friend Alan Dollas in the CIA to see what the United States government could do about all this. And so Dollas went all in. He gave a hundred CIA agents and seven million dollars to DuPont's United fruit in order to overthrow Guatemala's democratically elected government. Also, they could install someone who was willing to do anything that United fruit and DuPont wanted. Interestingly, this CIA backed coup, this was where the CIA printed its very first assassination booklets.

They were, I actually have a, uh, one of the archived saved versions of their assassination booklets and they have these. It's very interesting because the idea is to spread amongst the people. They'll really be into it. Most of them are all like, okay. Yeah.

Or, okay, why are you doing this? Do not want to die. Yeah, do not want to kill people. Damn, please leave us alone. And the CIA also was like, not good at this. Yeah, well, I mean, they did it.

I mean, it was successful. But then it's like, well, they were fucked everything up. Well, the thing is, the CIA was really good at doing it. It was the follow through that the CIA was really bad at it.

It turns out it's super crucial.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, in the end, the assassination booklets actually weren't really needed. The CIA had used a PR firm to spread false propaganda. The Guatemala had been taken over by communist Soviets, which it hadn't. But because the PR was effective, the coup was fully supported.

And it was achieved with a relatively low body count. And so, the CIA installed a military dictatorship. And DuPontz United fruit was welcomed as corporate aid to the government. This installation, however, led to a civil war in Guatemala just a few years later. That civil war lasted for over three decades.

It was the leftist rebels versus the United fruit. And United States backed Guatemala and military death squads. Hundreds of thousands of people died. Mostly indigenous lions. They were killed before treaty was finally signed in 1996.

And by the way, United fruit still around. Since 1984, it's been known by the adorable name of Chiquita Banana. I like the lady. That's kind of an Amazon. Give you potassium.

I shopped all. I made sure my own bananas. Really? Yep. In this hammock.

A real small pink and gray.

After World War II, the deposit made five and a half billion off the Korean war.

Where Nae Paul was used to the tune of 80 tons a day. I was actually concerned. I was hoping they would make money on the Korean war. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't worry. Plenty. At least we won. Yeah. Yeah.

So big. Everybody. Love that one. I felt like the North Korean leader just today named his heir. It's the girl's daughter.

It's the girl's daughter. It's awesome. It's all. It's very fun. We'll do an in-family run.

I'd want it to. It's so bad. One day. It's just hard to know exactly what the fuck is going on there.

“How is North Korea going to have a female leader before us?”

He's a funny buddy. No, it's fascinating. It is like we're watching a country. Someone's going to change inside of that country.

But yeah, it's the first female leader.

It's amazing. Yeah. Well, DePont also began moving their operations overseas. And by 1970, half of their chemical plants were in Latin America. Which had already been effectively colonized by the DePont company United

Fruit. DePont was also heavily invested in Southeast Asia, which meant that they absolutely had a large stake in the Vietnam War. At least we won that. Yeah.

I mean, I don't remember. Because again, you said, oh, we're going to do new plants.

Yeah, sure. But also without DePont.

“You know, so we wouldn't have fucking CCR dude.”

Yeah. I know. Freedom's man. I know. Freedom's brother.

Yeah. They're still together. Yeah. Yeah. John Fogready.

Super rare. Good.

You know what I'll train?

I'll give up. CCR. I'll give up. I'll give up. I'll give it up.

You're down. I'll give it up. Yeah. I'll give it up. I'll give it up.

I'll give it up. Yeah. I'll give it up. I'll give it up. I'll give it up.

Yeah. I'll give it up. I'll give it up. I'll give it up. I'll give it up.

Yeah. I'll give it up. I'll give it up. I'll give it up. Absolutely.

Contributed their fair share. Yeah. They're like the Scotty Pippin. Yeah.

“US forces dropped 350,000 tons of napalm on Vietnam over the course of the war.”

But napalm ended up hurting the war effort in the end. The infamous photo of the Vietnamese girl running naked and screaming was taken after that girl had been burned in a napalm attack. And that photo alone did quite a bit to change American opinion on the Vietnam war. My uncle was sprayed with Agent Orange. And that's the reason why they were all my cousins were mentally handicapped.

I don't know if Agent I don't know who made Agent Orange. I think that was Dow. Is that Dow? I'm pretty sure that was Dow that made Agent Orange. Yeah.

He got sprayed real bad with it. Yeah. Dow's also pretty bad. No, yeah. Yeah.

He's all bad over there. He's not sounded like. It was really complicated. Yeah. Actually, it was quite simple.

Yeah. No. Not all of the sins of the DuPont family, and we skipped over hundreds. Their worst might be in the forever chemicals that they have knowingly and callously introduced into the bodies of each and every person listening right now. And the most insidious of those forever chemicals was introduced by the seemingly innocuous product known as Teflon.

Now we all know what Teflon is. Keeps ship from sticking to pants. Teflon is also used in the manufacture of carpets, shampoos, smartphones, paint, furniture, adhesives, food packaging, cosmetics and much much more. It is resistant to heat, oil, grease, and water. And is therefore become an integral part of the modern world.

It's almost like it doesn't exist. Yeah. It's everywhere. You know what I mean? We're like in a way where it's just like it's so cute and so harmless.

And it doesn't do anything. And nothing touches it. It's just innocent and sweet. Now it's actually one of the worst things to ever be introduced into the world. Yeah.

Because there's something about a chemical that's made that no one can touch it. Yeah. It's like a thing where the one thing it does is deny all physical engagement with the world. Yeah. And it turns out that the thing that is extremely resistant to water is also really harmful to bodies that are made primarily of water.

70% water. Yeah. You know, this is all coming from the people who helped us make bullets. Oh, you want to stick a fucking dynamite? Tough luck.

Brought to you by the company, the Brought You, Nagasaki. Yeah. Yeah, they're all like, sorry. We took a long time to kill you. We could do it once.

You want to do it once? We'll fucking kill everybody immediately. Well, Teflon is made with a chemical that is commonly known as C8.

C8 falls under the umbrella of forever chemicals, meaning that it never leaves your body and it causes adverse health effects.

Like cancer. It's like we're adopting it. Yeah. It's like it's part of us. C8 is what you call bio-persistent, meaning that it will not and cannot be removed from your blood.

Oh. It remains in your body even after you die. It's so romantic. And it's actually so horrible in every way that is referred to by chemists as the devil's piss. And I should know because I drink piss.

[laughter] Well, one of the many, many ways in which C8 gets an aura bloodstream. Remember how many things I said that is that Teflon is in. Lipstick, shampoo. But one of the many ways that it gets an aura bloodstream is like, say,

you have a pan that's coated with Teflon and you use it for a long time. After a while, bits of Teflon start to flake off into your food. You therefore ingest C8, which significantly increases cancer risk amongst other health problems. I mean, imagine how many restaurants you go to. A little bit's Teflon flake off, you know, in your own home.

You got everywhere.

“That's how it gets into everything and everyone.”

Well, now I just straight up eat credit cards. [laughter] And now I just don't eat a credit card. It's just like, I don't really care. I honestly kind of feel, they've been talking about the loneliness epidemic.

And the sites they have supplements with you always.

Yeah. Yeah. And like forever chemicals are a great investment because they last forever. Yeah.

It's true.

“Now you're thinking like a business man.”

See? That's all ticks. You just got a couple shares. [laughter] My hate sharing.

[laughter] Now the DuPontz began manufacturing Teflon. Sometime in the late 30s or early 40s. And they did so in conjunction with another American chemical giant. Three M.

Both companies, of course, said when they began using C8 that it was an inert substance that had no adverse health effects. Yeah. That's what I mean. It's like it doesn't exist.

Oh, no. That was a guess. Or, let's say, a hope. Oh. Because they hadn't actually done any studies on C8's effects

when they introduced it into the public. Can I ask why you're an enemy of hope? [laughter] I'll be an enemy of plenty. Yeah.

I'm an enemy of hope. Well, you're an enemy of hope. Because, um, hope. See what happens with these liberals. You can't engage with them on anything.

Their monsters. They're mean. Now please just die. [laughter] All right.

Eventually. [laughter] Yes. Well, three M.

“Find the gutter on to doing some testing in the early 50s.”

And what they found was immediately disturbing. They began testing C8 on rats. And found that not only did all the fetuses and the pregnant rats die, but all of the rats developed fatal tumors. Oh, okay.

So we stop using them. [laughter] Honestly, the mice can't use it. Obviously, it's a mice-bound problem.

They'll never get to the uses of death lawn.

Yeah. What did great episode? [laughter] Well, they did take, like, okay, well, causes tumors and rats.

Let's try it on dogs and monkeys. Yeah! 10 years later. By the 1960s. Try it on me.

[laughter] I'm so addicted to the mice. I'm just a whole hound dog. Don't do it to me. [laughter]

But see if we can't even get you wet. [laughter] Try to spray it with the hose. The water's beads all over it. There's not one dog.

[laughter] Nope. All the dogs and all the monkeys developed huge tumors and died. Oh! In fact, they found that the monkeys died with the lowest doses of C8 out of all the animals tested,

which tells you it's probably really bad for humans, too.

Yeah, they said it's one part to one billion.

So a drop in a swimming pool. The ellipse swimming pool. Yeah. And that's enough to fuck you up. Yes.

Yeah. And eventually, 3M learned that C8 actually has adverse effects on DNA itself. It is changing our DNA. And so when 3M learned how toxic C8 really was, they went to DuPont and told them that, "Well, yeah,

we're not saying you got to remove C8 from all your products. We're just saying you probably shouldn't dump anything containing C8 into local water supplies. Just try that. Just don't do that. Just don't do that.

Not saying you got to take it out of everything. Just saying dispose of it properly. DuPont, of course, said fuck you and continue dumping it wherever they want it." And this is where I like literally watching that documentary. It's so hard because every serial killer documentary I watch,

which I love, you know, I love all the, like, her panties were found. It's stuffed inside her cavity. Like, I like that, right? That provides like almost a sense of comfort to me. So you're ASMR.

Yes.

“But then like watching the poor people on this honestly,”

this wonderful documentary is like a guy with like three eyes. Just going, "You know how just you're happy to be alive? It's just too hot and no sponge. You could possibly, it's just that's too rainbow." And you're sitting there, like Jesus fucking Christ.

Yep. The devil we know. Yeah, buck is all right. He's a go. Yeah, I mean, he's doing great.

Yeah. I'm just saying. I was like, "That guy, I'm talking to just have a place. Jack, dump." Yeah, no.

But yeah, but he's silly. Yes. And when they had to put the balloon into my forehead, my head, the head was the worst hit ever. This is like the most upsetting thing I've ever watched.

Yeah. They had to put a balloon in this forehead, to stretch his skin so they could take the skin from his forehead and give him a second nostril because he was born with only one nostril.

It's bad. Yeah. And that's all due to the C8 exposure suffered by his mother when she was pregnant with bucky. Yeah, who's co-worker at the same thing happened to her and her child.

Yeah. No, it was noticed starting way back in the 1970s that people who lived near Depont, C8 plants

were developing cancer at rates 20 to 30 percent higher

than the rest of the population. And women who worked in those plants were giving birth to children with incredible physical deformities. Depont, however, kept using it in countless products. And they themselves knew that C8 had spread everywhere.

See, Depont had done their own research. Because they realized if we make everybody deform, that's the new base. That's your baseline. Yeah.

Well, Depont had done their own research on C8 in 1960. But they discovered when they wanted to compare blood contaminated with C8 to a clean sample, that no clean sample existed in any one. They searched everywhere for a clean sample.

from Army servicemen taken before 1950 to find blood that did not contain any C8. This was in 1960.

“And today, it is estimated that C8 is in the blood of 99 percent”

of Americans, if not 99 percent of the world.

Congratulations, Depont. You did total market coverage. That's really good work, guys. But to the credit of 3M, they did voluntarily remove C8 from their products in, you know, in the year 2000.

It took them a while, but they did take it out. It's hard. It's hard. It realized it was bad. They stopped making it.

Yeah, and they phased it out completely by 2002. Depont meanwhile increased production. And they built a new C8 plant in Fayetteville, North Carolina. Around the same time that 3M was pulling C8 out of all their products.

Right. So they started making it themselves just so they can keep using it. Yes. Now the effects of C8 weren't known for a long time because DuPont usually

built its most dangerous chemical factories in poor southern towns

where the people become dependent upon and even grateful for the deadly jobs that DuPont provides. You have people that will defend DuPont until the day they die because DuPont gave them a paycheck. Yeah, because they gave them the fucking one-bedroom house

that their 10 family members live in. Yeah, it's also just shows what the US government could do. Helping people get homes and helping people like what that would what that could do versus letting it be up to the corporations to do it that then poison all of us.

Yes. DuPont also spent decades successfully lobbying the media to prevent reporting on the horrors of C8. DuPont actually has a long and successful history of influencing not just the media, but the government as well.

Mostly to get policies legislated in their favor. There have actually been several DuPont loyalists appointed to the environmental protection agency over the years. And those men have been instrumental in shutting down investigations into C8.

And just like the old companies have done with climate change, DuPont has their own team of scientists who are paid to create reports that C8 poses no risk. We can all use Teflon as much as we want without worrying. Eat it with a spoon.

Put it on a sandwich. Everyone loves Teflon. I can trust this. Honestly, I have been trying to put it on a sandwich. I don't know what you just won't stink.

[LAUGHTER]

“That's why it's a rotten game for the kids.”

Straight from the bat. [LAUGHTER] But by the mid-2000s, enough horror stories about C8 were making the rounds that a number of lawyers put together a class action lawsuit against DuPont.

During the discovery process, it was found that DuPont had known about the dangers of C8 since the 1960s and had done nothing. In fact, they'd done worse than nothing. They had provably doubled down on production and had increased

their PR budget to keep C8 stories out of the media. It was also found that DuPont had been dumping 50,000 pounds of C8 into the Ohio River every year for decades. Do you know how many people I know in Cincinnati that have had cancer? A lot.

It's fucked up. It's insane. How much they're really messing with everybody? That whole area of the world right now, with like Northern Pennsylvania, Jersey, that whole thing has become

a cesspool of environmental, massive environmental fuckups. Remember the train? Collapse will the fucking waste on it that went into the world? Yeah. This is like a thing that happens again and again and again.

And we're all just like, yeah, we'll hopefully not poison too many of the people. Like we're just kind of hoping it doesn't fully kill everybody. Yeah. No, it was obvious that DuPont was going to lose this

class action lawsuit if it went to trial. That's how incredibly guilty they were. Do you know how incredibly guilty a corporation has to be to lose a class action lawsuit? So they offered a $347 million settlement instead.

Oh, for everybody that works. Yeah, everybody gets $1.

Everybody that's never tasted C8.

Yeah. One singular dollar. Well, in a selfless move, the plaintiffs decided to use that money to put together a long-term scientific study to look into the effects of C8

and prove that it caused health problems. After this seven-year study was through, C8 and drinking water was linked to kidney cancer, testicular cancer, thyroid disease, fatal preeclampsia, high cholesterol,

and ulcerative colitis, which leads to colon cancer. Colon cancer, by the way, is killing our generation on mass as we speak. It fucking killed James Vanderbeek yesterday. It is killing us at an incredible rate. I'm going to say, right now, we got to start a new campaign

to screen millennials and generation xers for colon cancer. I'm going to call it, I don't want your death. (laughing) Get check.

“Honestly, guys, pre-inclively get your bundles checked.”

You're going to want to eat more fiber. You're going to want to drink more water. These are like, well, I don't know about drinking more water. Because that's made, this whole thing is made me fucking paranoid about

Well, guys, we don't know how much, because some, well, even filtered.

Filter don't fucking take care of C8. Don't take care of your late buddy. Yeah, I know. I know.

“But, you know, you get your, you can drink out of a plastic bottle.”

(laughing) And that'll be fine. You don't have to do it. I just don't have a bag of plastic bottles. But you don't necessarily fucking cry.

You know what I've liked? I've had a hard week, man. Was it open up a gallon Ziploc bag? I fill water. I fill it from tap into the gallon Ziploc bag.

And I just leave it in a car for a couple of hours. (laughing) And I let the natural heat of the sun. The sun. Yeah.

Bake it. Yeah.

So it really gets filled with plastic.

(laughing) Now, DuPont promised to phase out C8 in 2015. But their shenanigans were not over. Instead of using C8 for Teflon and other products, because we can't live without Teflon. No.

“They are now using a chemical compound that they seriously called Gen X.”

No independent studies have been done on Gen X. But DuPont's internal studies on rats have shown you guessed it tumors and death. What? Just like with C8. Our water and our bodies are now also full of Gen X in addition to C8 and a ton of other

forever chemicals besides. That's admittedly a lot of heavy shit. And I really wish we could end this exploration to the evils of the DuPont's on a higher note. You'd only wait in and a high note. And then every member of the DuPont family was then subsequently lined up.

Shot na-hand. (laughing) He was disseminated amongst the entire world. They stopped hiring the KKK. Again, the Pinkerton's and everything is fine.

But it's suppose all I can say is that these are the people in charge of our lives. And had been for some time. And if the Epstein files tell you anything, it's that these people are betting on collapse and misery more than they ever have. They are betting on collapse to make money on the collapse.

They are actively pushing for it. They want to kill us just to make the money for a world in which there's none of us to work for them. Yes. But whether or not we let them push us over the cliff is up to us. Something needs to be done to remove these people from their positions of power.

Because it is quite obvious that they are more than willing to die right alongside the rest of us. If it means that they can make profit right up to the point where they're fucking heart stops. It has become existential. And we need a fucking plan. But until that plan can be formulated and implemented join us next week as we take a little break from the two ponds.

To hear an episode led by our very own Ed Larson while these boys are doing two shows up in Alaska. Yeah. So we're going to be a little change in the schedule because we will be leaving town early next week. To go to the fair state of Alaska, please join us last podcast and let that come. You can buy tickets for that that are still available for fair banks.

And then we'll be there tomorrow when this episode comes out for everyone. We'll be there. So go buy tickets there if you would. But then we're coming back with the Fox capture killer. Well, then though we get to that join us for the finale of our two ponds series where we're going to see what happens.

When one of these two ponds are left to spend their wheels and create their own fantasy world, which results in what else. But murder. Yeah. Some pure old fashioned murder. Find someone's just going to one guy's just going to shoot another guy.

That's what I'm going to be on. Yeah, just real simple one on one violence. Idiot shooting a wrestler. We literally did this series because of how angry we are. Like this is this was not supposed to be this way.

I already see several people sending emails. Oh, this is a lot of historical context. But it's really just because we're furious. And we are we want to talk about these things. Even amongst ourselves.

“Yeah, that's what we do this fucking show because we are here to talk about things that interest us in this fucking world.”

And I think it's important to know. It is. It's very important. I think this episode had the most death. You know, I think it might have out of every episode we've ever done.

This might be the most death. Yeah, I think you're right. Every single episode, but also remember, though, we have a lot of true crime coming down the pipe. Yeah, so I want you to understand that. We have a lot of true crime coming and then right after my true crime series.

I'm going to say it. I'm doing a true crime series. You are. We then are going to introduce another head on the Mount Rushmore of evil. Which I think you might be very, very surprised.

What did it? So we're here. We're in it. We're locked in for the rest of your fucking life. Hail Satan.

I'll see you when I'm fucking dead. Oh, by the way, I looked it up. I just just to see who, like, as you mentioned, Bill Clinton. Yeah. I wanted to see who 3M and all of them were donating to now.

Who DuPont was donating to now. The number one donation is to a place called the committed to America Pack. And they're only person that they give money to is Mike Pence.

And then the second person that they gave the most amount of money to was Kamala Harris.

Yeah, so that's what we got going on. They're still playing both sides. Yes. No, they are absolutely playing both sides in the fucking establishment of both parties.

Just one of them is a little more upfront about it.

“The whole fucking system needs to be wiped away.”

And we need to fucking change. In my free day, the massive mass of change. My friend Charlotte introduced me to an apartment member of the family that was deeply involved in a full anti-Jewish cult. Run by Lyndon LaRouche. This goes, there's a lot here.

There's a lot here. There's a lot. So there is a lot. Happy hunting. [laughs]

On the picture, I've got 'em.

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Yeah, silk stockings. nylon stockings.

Yeah, gober got freed up all night.

When you would have to alternate between get masturbating to bikini girls and then you'd have to listen to gober got free talk for a little while. Yeah, that's how you learn how to do it. There is. How you get re-going to do it again. Yeah.

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Wow, we're really doing the debaunt tour. Yeah, that should be your next tour. Yeah. June 27th, Grand Rapids, Michigan, July 17th, Tulsa, Oklahoma, July 18th, Oklahoma City. Come see us live on the road.

This shit is fun. That's right. Yeah, fuck that. It will see up in the ice. Hell, Satan.

Yeah, again, get colon check. Get your fucking asshole check. Yeah, and hell, fucky Bailey. Hell, Bucky. I like Bucky.

I like Bucky a lot. He's Bucky Bailey. He's a guy in the documentary. Oh, yeah. He is a sweet band.