2833: Why Fitness Gimmicks Keep Fooling You And What Actually Works

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(whooshing) Here's something that is guaranteed to be a total stupid waste of time. The latest fitness gimmick that come up every year. Listen, don't pay attention to them.

They never worked, they never have, again,

it's a huge waste of time and money, the basics. They always work. You know what the problem with that is how it works. The gimmicks. They do work.

They do work. That's why they work. They do something, or else they wouldn't get popular. For example, thigh master. (laughing)

I mean, it works, it works, it builds muscle. You can build muscle. You know, you don't even build muscle on thigh master. Did you ever get a thigh master? Like, build muscle.

“Oh, the thigh master, you have to, like,”

I mean, you have to, like, get a thigh master. It's a bit, it's a bit, I bet a couple of you would have a hard time doing it. What the thigh master? Yeah.

So those, they weren't easy for people. Don't people who are too young to remember this. By the way, this is the number one selling piece of a whole time of old time. It's a spring.

I think it's, I think, she click past it now. The shake, okay, see? Good. Oh, shake, yeah. Actually, look it up, Doug, say, what's the number one?

Well, hot that ironically, you know. I can't, you know, you're right, you're right. No, you're right, you're right. I wouldn't be surprised if thigh master turned into that. No, thigh master was a legit phenomena.

I remember I go to my aunt's house, I go to my cousins, everybody had one. Yeah. And it was a spring. You put between your knees and you just squeeze it.

Yeah. And that's, it's going to slim your thighs. No, it did nothing, so, Doug, that's not true. You can't say it did, you can't say it did nothing. It would build a little bit of it.

Yeah, how much did thigh master, well, here's my point. I'll tell you right here. And by the way, we minimal of any, let's say. What you see often, because we've been doing this long enough, is I see fitness chemists get recycled.

So you'll see something pop up, like a good example is the belt that you wear. That flexes your abs. The first one to come out of that was like in the 50s or 60s. Yeah. And every year it comes out.

If they do 1000 crunches, you're asking a type of deal. And it's a waste of time when it works well for is making money. That's for sure.

gimmick, and you're more likely to be successful, I hate to say it than selling. So long. You know, it's hard. Let's hot right now. The first part of that is the new EMS machine.

This is like, I always know when something's hot and trendy, when my non-fitness space

people reach out to me, hey, I was thinking about paying for this session.

“Like, do you want to use something that's like not your advice?”

It looks cool. I know. By the way, the if I mastered generated $300 million in revenue in 1990, $10 to 15 million units. Okay. Let's shake way that 300 million.

Yeah. The first spring, it's just in 1990, that's like, who invented it? Who's that guy? The thymaster. I don't know.

What's your name from the thymaster? What's your name from the thymaster? Yeah. You see, Sam's summer. She promoted it.

She probably, I mean, made some royalties off of him. Yeah. Let's see what the幸 is. Oh, wow. So Sam's summer's in her husband actually bought it, acquired a 100% of the ownership

of the product. Wow. I wonder what point? Check Norse is a total gym, but that actually had, you know, a little bit of a experience.

Yeah, but those were all people that represented the product, not actually invented the product. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was paid, he was paid to do that.

Oh, so Sam's summer's bought it. Yeah.

See, she made $300 million herself.

Wow. See how many shake weights for her? How many units, I guess, would say, that the shake weights, so I'm very interested in that. 50 million.

Oh, not even close. Wow. So you count the scream as one of those, right? 'Cause like the Kardashians brought those, resurrected that whole time. Yeah.

But it wasn't like a patented piece of gimmicky exercise equipment. It was a thing you wore. True. But, okay. So back to what you're saying.

So, yes. Yes. And this is old science. So the EMS thing is electrical muscle stimulation. So when you, when you put a electrode on a muscle and send a current through it,

it'll cause the muscle contract. Right. And so by the way, this science has been around forever. In fact, I remember, I believe Bruce Lee used stuff like this back when he was working out.

And so it doesn't make some muscle contract. And so the thought is, well, if I can put it on and have it contract a muscle, it's going to do something. Right. And what we find in the data, because it's been around for a long time, is there's

some benefit for reducing a certain amount of muscle atrophy with injury? Yeah. This is why it's made in physical therapy. Yeah. Physical therapists still use it.

Well, I mean, I have one in my house with rehabbing something that's an injury or a workout. So it makes sense for something like that to reduce atrophy. But that's not what's popular right now. No.

What's popular. Hold on to the level. Yes.

“So what's popular now is, which I think it's, it's comical, what?”

You're either wearing this ridiculous suit, or you bring it in the whole like, you roll in the whole machine and attach it to you with wires and everything like that. And there's these dudes that are working out now. Even the gym with an attached to them, or like I said, they have these body suits. And the science that they sell it with is that, yeah, and we've talked about this before.

In fact, we've used the science to refer to how good an Olympic lifter can activate their muscles. That's what they're doing. So a Olympic lifter is known to be able to tap into like 90% of their capacity. Your work capacity or whatever muscle recruitment, right?

The average person, when you go do it with the average person when they bench press, they only get about 60%, there's limitters. They only get about 6% and so the science behind these and what they're showing is that you stick these things on your chest. This person who can only get 60% of muscle fiber recruitment on their chest while they do

a bench press and they're recruiting 90%. So what's the difference? Inflating two different types of studies, so the one that you're referring to is your total forced generation. So under Dores, a car flips over, a kid is trapped underneath it, mom is trying to move

the car, suddenly she can drop it over her eyes, so that's different than muscle fiber recruitment. Muscle fiber recruitment, when you train in proximity to failure, you're activating most of the muscle fibers. Yeah.

So they're completing two studies, well, that was me who's completing that, that's not them who's combining that. No, they were saying muscle fiber recruitment, but they were saying, yeah, no, anybody who works out, if you train with a certain level of intensity, you're going to recruit, the closer you get to heavy load or a high intensity, the more muscle fibers, you're

going to recruit. Another word, and this is the part where I think it's so stupid in what I see build in this. This is like every rat trying to train to failure.

“That's what they're, here's what they'll say, because I've heard people try to sell”

to me, and they'll they'll tell me about it, and I'm like, first off, it's ridiculously

I don't see how can anybody could do this anywhere, you're always going to adhere to

“that for more than just a few novel experiences.”

Right. Oh, you're going to go sign up at a class because the class, as is expensive equipment, how much is it going to cost you, take that money and invest in a good coach, way better return, way better return in progress. It doesn't produce.

Now, I could see potential benefit for an advanced athlete for very specific applications with the right coaching and the right measurements. Maybe I have yet to see anybody put this together? Yeah, I'm trying to think where I would be, so it got popular, like always, in the body builder space first.

Yeah. Well, because what they do is they say, again, this person told me they said, we should try it. This is like how people try to sell me Pilates or bar. Yeah.

We'll want to try it. Yeah, it'll make me sore. Yeah. So what? Yeah, you're, it's so hard.

I can do it. Okay. We could do, what was it? Drumstick class. We took one.

I got sore from that. But dumb enough to return. I just didn't ever talk about that. She had a drum with me. Yeah.

No. It was dying. It was burning. It was so hard. It was like, doesn't mean I built more muscle for my life.

But she difficulty doesn't necessarily translate. Doesn't. It doesn't at all. It does. But all that makes it keep coming out.

What they're doing is they're taking people away from it actually works. This is the part that gets me a bit frustrated. Well, I also, so the point I would argue is because we, we tend to advocate for leaving two in the tank anyways and not training to failure anyways. Close enough.

“So what I think about all of my clients that I trained all these years, the ones that”

didn't get the results, the ones that never saw their goal.

It wasn't for a lack of intensity in their workout. It wasn't because it was like, oh man, if I could have just got them to push harder in their workout, we would have got the results. It was adherence to the diet and consistency and everything else with that. They could have worked.

Those same clients that didn't see the results, I could have got them to work out with half the intensity. If they could have got the other stuff right and was consistent, they would have seen all the results. So it's not like this is the answer that is going to solve most people that.

And to your point, okay, if anyone's going to mess with this, my pro bodybuilder friends that are, I say astronauts and that's about it. Astronauts? Because of the lack of resistance, lack of resistance. Oh.

And it just, okay. Muscle stick, okay. Okay. And zero gravity. And that's, that makes it hard.

That makes it hard. I draw the line. Okay. That makes it hard. Okay.

I'll tell you this much. Okay. You have a occlusion training. Occlusion training has actual data support therapy. It does activate muscle fibers with way lighter load.

We know this is it even in the category of staples or things we would use with clients on an even semi-regular basis? No. No.

In fact, I probably would never use it with a client.

And that has data supporting it because it's kind of gimmicky. There's some applications for rehab. And again, the super advanced bodybuilder who wants to throw in a little bit of novelty. Maybe. You know, type of deal.

Nothing is going to ever replace just traditional strength training with resistance. Eating a good diet, having a good sleep. Unless there's some radical, I don't know, gene therapy or some kind of medical intervention. I know GLPs have made a big impact when it comes to weight loss, just for suppressing appetite. But like exercise gimmicks exercise equipment, that kind of stuff.

Even when you go to the gym, I'll tell you what, there's some awesome exercise equipment that's out there. There's some exercise machines and the science that goes into those are remarkable. There's a company. I can't remember the brand.

It's at Italy. They call them the Ferrari, of course, because they're from Italy, but the Ferrari of machines. I can't remember the name, but maybe you could look it up. But they're like really cool looking machines, biomechanics are amazing. You know what I'm talking about?

The ones that transcend them. Yeah. Believe they use them as well.

“I think they might have used them as well.”

Well, I know that the reason why they were called, they actually use the same manufacturer just to let their in Ferrari off for the leather on there. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not technopanata.

Panata. I've seen some equipment. In fact, if you click there, that is them. That is them. Okay.

Some of their equipment looks incredible. Is it like hammer strength or what's the same thing? It's like another level. Yep. Yes.

Now, what I would-- You saw it? Yeah. You saw it? I did.

I wasn't there. No, check it. You didn't go to the transcendent thing? No, it's just you and me, Adam. Oh, it was just you and I that went there.

Oh, yes. Why weren't they with us? What were you guys? Because it was negotiation stuff. Yeah.

That's what that was. I can't do. Oh, that was a contract thing. Oh. They didn't finish paying.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But so. My point is, you could take some of the best machines that are out there. And could any one machine replace a barbell dumbbells?

No, they couldn't.

Just at our base right there.

Just basic. Is that Phil Heath? That was Phil Heath on the front. Yeah. Go back.

That's interesting equipment. But my point is the gimmick stuff is just and this equipment's super expensive. Yeah. You know. Yeah.

It's leaf. Yeah. So it just, you know, it comes out every year. It comes out every year. There's a new piece of exercise equipment, the new.

I remember one we went to. What was the convention? I was going to talk about. The one wrap thing that. Yeah.

So it was a machine. That's what it was. Yes. It was a machine that you like imagine. It's a bench press.

As you can, and the machine adjust its resistance to give you one max out wrap.

I don't want it. Yeah. And they're like, you can get a little more of three contractions. So it like emphasizes the isometric portion and the eccentric. It's like load.

And like one wrap is like doing 50 reps, you like all based because of intensity. Yeah. That's not true. Dave Aspere was all about. Dave Aspere is like, yeah.

No. Big big proponent. It doesn't work that way. Yeah. And if people took the money that they spent on these types of things.

And just hired a good coach. Yeah. Yeah. He was looking for the novel like quick answers.

“Well, that's why I wanted to bring it up because like I said, it's reach general”

pop. When it was my I seen it a long time ago, I think I brought it up over a year or two. Go on the podcast when I saw my bodybuilder friends and people doing it. I was just like, oh, it's the new thing that's, it's hilarious. I thought it was hilarious.

They're doing a thing. But it's like, I mean, I'm not going to criticize a bodybuilder guys that are doing everything. Yeah. It's like, why not?

You know, why not do this novel thing? Yeah. So it is what it is. But the average person who's trying to get in shape is sculpt their butt a little bit more.

Lose two inches on their way. It's like this. Like you're going to suit up in this thing. But consistent to begin with. Scoop it this thing and shot the shit out of yourself so we have sore for two weeks.

Like, this is, that's the dumbest idea ever heard of. In fact, I'll say this. I'll say this because there's a belief around personal training that you have to, and yes, ideally, you'd want to work with a trainer weekly. But would you get benefit?

Would you get benefit from training with a trainer once a month? Yeah. Sure. Yes. And it's more valuable than anything else you can get.

guidance. Oh, really good one for sure. Yeah. If you spend $100 because the typical trainer will charge anywhere between 60 to 120 bucks an hour.

So let's say you spend $100 once a month meet with a trainer. There is nothing else you could spend $100 a month on that will come close to the value you're going to get from just a good, a coach. And what's that coach going to use? A good coach.

A traditional basics, the understanding of workout programming that I'll have manipulated for you. Yeah.

And when you follow a good program, here's the thing, when you follow a good fitness program,

most of the time it doesn't feel like you're going to die. Most of the time, if it's hard, if you're good, and occasionally you have those workouts where you feel like you're going to die.

“But it's not the other way around, which is what people I think that's how you judge.”

I mean, yeah. Fitness equipment. Our whole conscious program is built off of the exact philosophy. Yes. And even just meeting with the coach once a month with them, even virtually, is significantly

more valuable than 90% of our gimmicky stuff that you can do outside because of the guidance and information and knowledge that you're getting every time you get on a call with them. That's right. Yeah. And with the last time you guys got anything that was fitness, fitness, gimmicky,

that you used. Oh my God. Us mod it personally. Yeah. Have we ever bought a gimmicky fantasy?

There's a lot of, I mean, given a lot of weird stuff, you know, like, let's see, like, that one door frame, like, foam roll thing and, yeah. I mean, if it's like novel because then you don't have to lay down, but it's like you can kind of do it in your role. Are you talking about that?

Oh, well, we had that one that company wanted to work with us, gave us that plastic one that was a used to cure arm in it. So yeah. Yeah. That, too.

I think in the vibrating ones, like, yeah, those were cool. Yeah. Those are all given to us though. Yeah. I know.

I'll tell you. I've used a couple. And they're not even gimmicky. What is with the test of time? What's that?

I used the shoulder, was it called shoulder horn? I think it was for rotator cuff exercises. Yes. That's been around for decades.

“And it's actually pretty, it's not the best thing you could do for shoulder stability,”

but it's a great, it was a decent, oh, the preacher girl wanted to kind of cool. Oh, yeah, it's not preacher horn blaster, arm blaster. That's been around since the 60s. That's kind of cool. Yeah.

That's the one you wrap around your neck and then it hangs over you and it keeps your elbows in a locked position. That's right. That's right. That's right.

The wrist roller, where you, to work your forearms. That's been around for decades. You know, I was into the, the rope, battle, the conditioning for a minute. I was into that. I could see that.

I was stamina. But I liked it. Honestly. It was just because of, like, your Flabby's. And the whole turkey neck thing is really, like, insecure about it.

I, that's a good, that's a good call. I, I did the, I mean, that was boot camp area, right?

And that was the only reason why. Did you bring ropes to the park? Yes. Wow. That's the reason why it was cool is because it was an easy tool you could carry.

I could buy four of them and carry them in my little wagon to a camp. You can't, so just about keeping people busy. It's about keeping people busy. And what is, what is this part? What is the smallest equipment that you could bring with you?

Yeah, for the first time.

“That's, that's the science, science, this is what you need to do.”

Making hearts somehow. Any cones? Yeah, a rope. Yeah. What else are you kettlebell?

Tirax. Tire, you're good. Yeah, you put ropes. Yeah, rope. Yeah.

Hold up. Start a business right there. I think that's most of what I had right there. Yeah. Bands in some bands.

Yeah. You're done. Yeah. And then you got yourself, like, a seven station little. Yeah, it'd be kind of careful.

Well, that's, that's, because your weight is wild. We're doing that. Yeah. You get dumbbells in the boot camp. That's a, that's a lot of, that's a lot of unloading and loading too.

You don't do that. Maybe a kettlebell or two.

You understand first thing.

Did you have to pay? You said a question. Did you ever have to pay the parks? Yeah, yeah. I had to, I had to get a permit.

You did. Yeah, yeah. You had to get a permit. Yeah. Well, I just kept moving park to park.

That's what it is. Yeah. So, I was a little more established. There was like, you do so. - I just say, yeah, I love it more legitimate here, guys.

You're five years old, you're gonna have a party. - Yes, I was like, one on one, yeah, for a hot second. - Well, yeah, I had trainer underneath me and everything doing it. I mean, I had multiple cams running in.

- What was the name of it? We love to hate out 'em, fitness. - Wow. - Why do you, why do you like that? What's up with that name?

“- That's what my clients used to say that.”

We just love to hate out 'em. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they used to say that. And so that was like the, they just, you're so likable. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- It says, it says the guy who never says that.

(laughing) - I was just being sarcastic. - Yeah, anyway. - Yeah, that's crazy. All right, I got a study for you guys.

That's interesting. Did you guys know what you were through all this? - You're a, you're a, you're a through tall. - You're a through tall. - You know what that is?

- Right of it. - So this is a, it's an organic sugar alcohol. It's got almost no impact on blood sugar. Is there no or no calories? Use it as a sweetener.

It's used as a sweetener. And it's often used as a sweetener and like keto, whatever, or sugar-free products that, or, you don't get any like insulin spike or anything else.

- It has almost negligible effect on insulin. It's super low calorie. And because it's not artificial, you could say something's natural and no sugar, right? - Okay.

- There's a problem with it though. It's been connected to blood clots. - Oh, interesting. - Yeah, in fact, I pulled up some some, some studies are going around.

- That's not good. - No, there's some interesting studies that are popping up about this. So in 2023, they looked up, they looked up, they did observational data

from over 4,000 patients. Higher circulating or ritherto levels were associated with an increased risk of major adverse cardiovascular events, including heart attacks for a young death.

So they said, look at the mechanisms. Is it just like a random association or is it actually causing this? - Mm-hmm. - Physiological concentrations,

urithritol enhanced platelet reactivity and accelerated thrombosis formation. This was in a mouse model and in vitro. So then they did a small pilot intervention of healthy volunteers,

and they showed that ingesting urithritol, the amount that you would find in a processed food, cause they massive and sustained rise in plasma urithritol, what you would expect. High enough to trigger the platelet changes

that would seem in lab tests. So they did a follow-up human intervention study. And with this study, it was a randomized crossover parallel design with healthy volunteers. They consumed a drink with 30 grams urithritol,

which is what you'll find like a sugar free soda or similar product, or 30 grams of glucose. So comparing the two. Urithritol, of course, you consume that. You see it rise in blood plasma.

And every single subject, platelet aggregation responses increased significantly to multiple agonists at various doses. Platelets also showed enhanced release of granule markers. So it very well.

Maybe one of those quote unquote natural sugar free sweeteners. That's not good. That's not good.

“Is that partly because is it like we do with anything else?”

Even though it's natural, just like cane sugar is, we concentrate the hell out of it. And so probably, I don't know you would consume it naturally. Where do you find urithritol? We're not even, I have no idea.

We're a plant. But this sucks because people consume these products. If somebody's consuming a product that is sweetened with urithritol, it's probably because they're health conscious. Like you're not seeking that out unless you're trying to avoid sugar,

right, lower calories, improve your health. And what they're finding is that it might actually be really bad for you. Small amounts and fruit. So yeah, they concentrate the health.

Yeah. So I know. Kind of crazy, right? Yeah. I know, just made everybody sad.

My sugar free options. Well, I tell you, Limer, I tell you what. I mean, regular old sugar is better, probably,

better for you probably is most, most always.

I mean, it's one of those things that I know people go sugar free to control their calories. Stavia seems to be good. Some of the artificial sweeteners have lots and lots of studies, but I'm not fully convinced.

And I do think that if something tastes sweet, there's always some kind of an effect,

“even if it's just behavioral, which is still an effect, right?”

So I don't think it, like, okay, to give you as a coach, did you ever have this huge successful clients to just like, I'm gonna go artificially sweetened with everything? Did that ever solve? No, it didn't get to the root of it.

Yeah, never. I know. Interesting, right? I know. I know.

Like you said, it sucks because you think you're making the healthier choice and you end up making something that's arguably worse for you. Yeah, they're drinking a regular old soda. You know, there's something of these said,

we've talked with us before, about having something

like that that has the sugars in it,

has a natural limiter on it. Because you know those calories? Because you know there's calories. When they're like, and I know I'm guilty of this. Yeah, you were a big sugar free.

Yeah, a big die-coked drinker. And so you still drink a lot of that? Not a lot. I still get 'em, but I limit. So like kind of our rules, I buy a 12 pack of,

12 of die-coked at the beginning of month, and that's got a lot of stuff. Are you diet or coke zero? Die-coked. I don't like coke zero.

It's too sweet. Wow. The reason why I like die-coked over a regular coke. Because one's asked for 10 one's sucralose. Yeah.

“Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think Coke zero's better for you.”

I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at that. I think I do the worst one, so. Yeah, I think asked for 10 more.

I think you're gonna have the right. Huh? Yeah. Yeah, only 12 cigarettes, too, you know. No, so that's kind of like been my thing

as like I'll get a 12 pack at the beginning. And that's got a glass of Katrina has a die-coked also. So it's like the two of us, you know, have got six or so to last us through the month and then what's gone is gone on time of deal.

That tends to work really well for me, 'cause I do still like it. What is it, which one's which done? Yeah, as per team is die-coked. So zero is a blend of as per team and East K.

Oh, I thought it was sucralose. I thought it was true. Cucralose is the big fitness supplement, sweetener. That's the one you'll find in artificially sweetened supplements. It's always sucralose.

Yes, sucralose.

It's always over there, but they pick.

Well, it's in Celsius, 'cause that's my other. My other poison I take. Cucralose. I think, maybe look that up though. See, that's got to be that one.

Yeah, I know. I know I read this about your thritle because back in the day, I would point to that one as a better option. As a trainer probably 15 years ago. You know, when I would talk about natural meat.

Yeah. But I mean, like you, like I was saying though, the downfall of it is that when what I think is that you can, you just if I have more and more and more and more. And then I would argue the behavioral stuff because the cook

by itself is normally not that good. It's you want it with something else. What I found that's interesting is that when that people who consume, I find this really interesting, people who consume a lot of diet soda begin to prefer its taste.

That's me. The reason why I treat diet coke is nothing to do the calories. If you, oh, yeah. If I have a, I won't drink a coke inside or if I have no diet coke and I have a coke refrigerator, and I'm under my calories

by a thousand calories, I won't drink the coke. I don't like it. It's too sweet. Regular coke is too sweet? Yeah, yeah.

Interesting. Yeah, yeah. I like the taste of the, can we try it? You've tried the, the, what a coke zero. No, the real coke, the, the last bottle.

So I do like that. I do like Mexican coke. That's why I do like regular. It does taste better. The, the other coke though and Pepsi, I'm just, I don't,

I don't like it. So yeah, I know I prefer the, that's the reason why I like it. It's not, it's not a, it's not a thing to do with dieting. I'm not, I'm not choosing it for taste. Yeah, for the, like the calorie saving at all.

Well, when my point is that, because you know it's calorie free, you can easily go, oh, I'm another one. Oh, I don't know when you're like a fitness person. Yeah, so I absolutely have been guilty before of having three in a day, you know what I'm saying?

“So, and that's why I've put parameters of, okay,”

here's my 12th in the month. I can have them all in 12 days in a row, or I can like use it traditionally when it's like, oh, it's Friday, movie night, and we're having popcorn and I'll enjoy a diet coke with my popcorn or something like that.

So I got something else too that's interesting. It's just read this article. They may have this good news for you, Justin. A pill for sleep out. I was just gonna ask you about that.

We were just talking on our walk. Yeah, 'cause like, one of those things, I just heard the other day that a lot of cavities are actually more related to the fact that it's apnea or like your mouse open when you're sleeping,

versus you actually just consuming sugar.

And I was like, oh, man, true.

Yeah, saliva is anti-cavity.

“So if you have like people who suffer from dry mouth”

or people have surgery or chemo, let's say from mouth cancer, they don't produce saliva, they're cavity rate, those were the were just, yeah, through the were crazy. Yeah.

More than sugar. It's your mouth microbiome, it will make or break whether or not you get cavities or anything. So like, in my family, I don't get cavities. I've never had a cavity.

Ever. My sister, she gets, she just think about cavities and she gets it for whatever reason. Yeah. And it's like that.

She gets a music, she doesn't get it, I get 'em. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, so there are clinical trials that just came out that they may have found a medication that stops sleep apnea.

It's an anti seizure medication. See, he's got a weight. But you know what's weird about this? Wait, it is. I thought sleep apnea, I didn't realize,

and I guess it is, I didn't realize that it's related to muscle control.

“I thought it was just 'cause you're bigger, bigger neck,”

with every tongue. Yeah, but it actually makes sense. Because it's very strategic. It's very strategic. I do know that when I eat gluten

and I know gluten can have effects on some people's center nervous system. I know people are gonna light up the comments, but you look it up. When I have gluten, I'll snore way more.

So I know there's some kind of an effect, but this anti seizure medication, they're finding had a really positive effect. Okay. Now, the question is, you want to take an anti seizure medication

or just worry about it? I'm just worried about it. I'm just worried about it. I'm just worried about it. I feel like I'm trying the dark side if I do that.

Yeah, yeah. Well, some people don't even have to be overweight, they just snore. Yeah. Yeah.

I know gaining weight makes it worse, but that's only that's when I feel like it, what if I will, is if I'm overweight, if I'm downweight, I don't seem to have any issues. Or, I should take that back.

The allergy season can get me sometimes too. If I'm really congested up here or sick, like that, that will give it. Do you, do you, every night? Are you and I sort of?

I used to justifies I'd sleep on my side and in court and it was like, yeah, you don't really snore if you're on your side, but then when I roll and I'm on my back, it's bad. Like it's just, do you wake yourself up?

I have before and it's, the only time that happens is when I'm like on the couch and we're watching something I'm just out 'cause I have to do it a lot lately. You have a piece of, you kids you're a dude,

you're exhausted, you're exhausted all the way.

I'm really doing a second job right now.

I do, yeah. Is there you do a more digging at home? Yeah, but I'm finally kind of, like I, so, I hope I have a tractor now, which is, you know, a tractor, huge blessing, buddy.

Are you driving it? He's like, yeah, he showed me, it was cool 'cause he was like, you know, every dude when you see a big piece of equipment, it's like, you're a little kid again.

You know, yeah, like, so, yeah, he showed me all the levers and whatnot, and I'm out there, like, you know, digging and you're in the bucket. So, yeah, we just started kind of finally making progress 'cause dude, me by myself and then, you know,

and Courtney is so funny 'cause like, these contractors will come by the house and like, Courtney's there, and she's talking about how much digging she does, and like, she'll point to the digging,

but they assume it's all the digging, and then I meet them and they're like, you make your wife, what are you doing? Like, and they all think she did all that herself. I'm like, no, dude.

But anyways, you know, she did that. Yes, she did this, but I let her take credit. But anyways, yeah, a lot, we've been doing a lot. We've been doing a lot of digging and chopping, and I'm tired. I ever take as much tractor story.

I told you my tractor story, right? Tell it again, you lost control.

“It was a long time ago, did we talk about it on your own?”

Oh, yeah, you long time ago. Oh, you did, yeah, real long ago. You like lost control, right? Yeah, so I was, I was, let's see here, I had just got the job there, so I'm 16 or 17.

It's early, early in the,

early in the job was the first time I ever,

'cause I ended up driving in a lot, but it was the first time I ever driven a tractor at all. And my boss teaches me. And it's a, so I got a front loader, and then we have a big tractor that's hooked

to a huge trailer that's got all the fertilizer in it. And I'm loading and dumping it, having a blast, like I learned all the stuff from like, oh, this is cool, and there's a big pile, and I'm like loaded up, and then it's a bunch of wood

ash that we're taking out to fertilize the 100 acres. And learn how to do that, all fine, loaded this whole big trailer up, and then it's got this old tractor that's gonna pull it out to the back.

And the way this ranch is set is it's on the crown of a mountain like this, so we're on the top of the hill, is where the dairy sits, and down below in the valley is like the 100 acres of grass. And then we have a giant canell that runs down

at the, we irrigate with. And then at the very bottom of the valley,

there's a huge telephone pole that's been cemented like into the ground, that we run all the bob wire fences off, where we can run all the gates and stuff. And so I'm on the top of this, he teaches me how to drive it, I'm having a blast,

and then he teaches me how to use the second one.

He's like, hey, this second one, you're gonna drive it all the way out to the back of the pasture. And mind you, he like teaches me and then he goes off and he's doing his own things. So I'm by myself this whole time I'm doing this.

And he's like, when you drive this one, he goes, it doesn't have brakes. So you just need to keep it in a really low gear. And if you ever driven a tractor, tractors all have what I call a granny gear,

which is like, it like crawls. - Yeah, I don't go down a hill slow. - Yeah, oh yeah, you could take a tractor down a hill as slow as you wanna go, basically. And so he's like, just keep it in a low gear

as you go down the hill. And then after you get over the hill, then you can shift up and then you can speed up. - We could go wrong, give a kid a tractor when no brakes. (laughs)

“- I don't, I think back now is like a 40-some-year-old man”

because he's away in his probably 30s at this time and he's like, who gives the keys? Like I said, it tells the key,

you like, no brakes first day,

you're learning how to do this, right? So I'll get on there and so like I said, it's at the crown of this mountain. So we're kind of at the top and I've got the trailer behind me and I'm like, okay, I put it in granted.

And it's like, and I'm kidding, it's crawling. It's like this and I'm like, oh my God, it's at this rate, I'm gonna be in an hour before I just get over the crown. So I'd like put it in a little bit higher gear first gear.

So I just don't get a little bit of speed to get over the hill. So I wanna get it over the hill to get down and then as I get over the crown of the hill, it's picking up a little bit of speed,

but I'm still, you could walk as fast as it's not tripping yet and they keep going. And then as it starts to pick up a little bit of speed, I go to downshift the hill. Oh no, you can't get it in.

So I go to downshift it into the granny gear and it starts to get in neutral. And so yeah, that's a neutral right now. And I'm trying to get it down in the granny gear

“with a clutch in and I'm just kicking it out”

and it's slowly starting to pick up speed. And I'm panicking trying to get it into the granny gear and not realize it and I probably should just put it into first or lower gear. And so now I'm realizing it can't get there.

So then I'm trying to put it in the other X gear and I can't get it in first gear 'cause it's consistent with too much speed. So at this point, this thing just now is just, I've got a ton of wood ash behind.

Oh no, dude. That's pushing this thing. I get so much speed coming out of the hill my front two tires are bouncing off that. So I'm like, now at this point, it's no gear

and I've got this big steering wheel and the front tire just like, bouncing. And I'm heading down this hill, and I told you there's a huge canal. Oh my god. - A little bridge.

- So a little bridge that goes over it. That's no wider than, I don't know, half of our studio. And on the left, this is the water and on the right, so water and then down the middle is the trail and I'm like wheels are up.

I'm pointing towards the water over here. And then I guess I'm spitting the wheel and the kit that wheels catch this way and then I'm pointing to that water and so the whole time I'm doing this,

going down the hill, I hit that telephone pole. Like a toothpick. - It doesn't just shatter. (laughing) Right through that, catch the tires at the bottom,

yanks me over, I go flying or the canal. And in the canal, and then half the track, half where I'm at goes, I mean the battery comes up flying out of it, just shit everywhere. - Wood ash from behind me over the top of me

so covered in black sweat. - Wow, dude, yeah. - Totally, I was totally fine. I mean, a little bit of bumps and bruises, but did you think about jumping out? - No, that would be afraid of fruit to run me over.

- Yeah. - Especially the way it was going. It was so out of control, I knew I had to try and ride it out and like, oh my god, yeah, rode it out and then then.

- What do you say when you catch it? - I mean, I'm frozen, I'm so scared and sitting on it still after it's all crashed and done. And I look back, I see him like, running down the hill full speed and come over.

And luckily he was cool, he was obviously more, I'm sure at that point go like, what was I thinking putting some 17-year-old kid in, you know? So he was probably scared to death, you know, that I didn't get, you know, I was at her and you know,

I was so embarrassed that I'm not like, I don't even, I don't even, I told my parents, like I don't think it was like a, I shared that story way later to people. - Wow, bro, yeah, you gotta die.

- That's not really good. - You know, it didn't feel like life or death carry,

“I think as I'm going down, I'm like going in trouble.”

- Yes, I'm more like, I'm about to crash this trap to be like expensive. - Yeah, yeah, I'm definitely losing this job. (laughing) - I understand, so I didn't work there for like three years

after that and for us, it was all good,

but I'll never forget that.

That was my first day ever driving a tractor. That was that's what went down. - Yeah, yeah, I just made me remember as I said, back in the day when I had to go work on my dad, one of his helpers had me turn a light off,

so he could switch, so he could like fix a wire. - Yeah. - In that piece of crap, totally just pranked me so hard, bro. He goes to touch the wire and that's like he's getting electrocuted, 'cause I'm the one with holding the switch.

- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, oh, he's like starts laughing at me and I'm like, oh my god, I had to walk out of the room.

That's why I'm electrocuted that, that's so good. - Yeah, that's good, that's good.

“Anyway, I wanted to go over what women can expect”

from using testosterone because it is getting quite popular now. So hormone therapy is popular. It's pretty mainstream now. - I'm pretty destigmatized, especially with women, I feel like these days.

- It's very destigmatized, it's going mainstream. And the part that is that more women are opening, their mind's too is a use of testosterone because testosterone is, you know, we would widely consider male hormone,

but a lot of people don't realize that women have testosterone, just like men do, it's not a male hormone. It's a higher percentage in men, but women need testosterone just as much as men do. And it's responsible for the same things in women

as it is in men, libido, drive, energy. And it is one of the aesthetic hormones. So of the hormones that you could take and use therapy for the ones that will produce the biggest visual change in your body

in terms of body fat muscle, that's stuff. testosterone, thyroid, and thyroid. - Yeah, those are the two.

“But testosterone is, this is the one people feel the most.”

Women, they'll talk about it and say, oh yeah, I went on testosterone was like life changing in terms of how it is. - I mean, it's so cool to see how far we've come with that. I mean, when you look at all the great female doctors

that we've had on this show that they all, I mean, that's part of normal therapy now, it's getting to a place where it's like, especially once you get to a certain age, I was listening to Katrina's conversation with her doctor

or shadow on speakerphone or driving. And it's like, it's just, it's become almost common practice now that once you reach a certain age, they introduce thyroid and testosterone almost as like the go to.

In fact, it sounds like that's the go to first two

is that correct normally? - Which ones? - Thyroid and testosterone are the first two. - Yes, that's right. - He was telling her why she was going to her

because we talked before she got on. And I'm like, I'm really curious to hear if he plans to put you on testosterone anytime soon. - That's one of the first ones.

- Yeah, but he told her, hers is so good. She's so good everywhere else. He's like thyroid is the only thing that you can use a little bit of it. And he even has her on a minimal dose.

He's like, if you notice that you don't have the energy of this or that and she's like, no, he's like, we could turn it up a tiny bit. He goes, but I'd rather save that until you're feeling that way.

And he goes eventually. - It's just the very straightforward hormone when they use it. Now, they'll make a play with the dose a little bit, but hormone therapy will involve sometimes for testosterone and some cases estrogen,

but testosterone, you're right, it's one of the first ones

it because you feel it improves your quality of life, build muscle, or body fat, it's a safe hormone.

“- Well, and then what I think is so powerful about that”

is then you couple the downstream effects you get from building muscle, having energy. Like, it's not just, it gives you that direct energy and strength and muscle, but it's like, then the downstream effects of having more muscle,

having more energy, it's like-- - Yeah, like, speedo is a big one. - Yeah, speedo, sleep, so thing. - So there was this big study, and I got to bring this up because in you'll see this, there was a study of over 80,000

women aged 50 or older on hormone replacement therapy, and they tied it, so I'm just talking about this 'cause it's going viral, they tied it to cancer and vascular events. Now, here's why this is super misleading.

What's included in this is birth control. It is not non-bio-identical hormone. So if you took a, like, a lot of women are put on birth control type hormone therapy, either to stop to regulate bleeding, or for acne,

or for period pain, or for other reasons, you know, a progestin is not the same as progesterone, right?

It's like, antibiotics, they're always versus testosterone.

testosterone is a natural hormone and men. Does that mean you can go take debol, and you're not going to get negative effects? No, that's a derivative of, it's a type of an endogen, but it's going to cause all kinds of negative.

So what they took with this is they took a lump of women, most of them on what are called non-bio-identical hormones. So these are not hormones that are like the ones that you're about to use are chemically altered, like hormones, and like those are the like risk control.

Yes, and those are the ones that cause issues. But when you want hormone, like if you go to, like our partners at MPhormones.com, if you go there and they test your hormones, say, okay, we can do hormone therapy with you.

They use the same hormones that are in your body. They don't put you on these other derivatives or chemically different hormones that you'll sometimes see women be put on. These are actual like progesterone, testosterone, thyroid,

like the actual. Have you guys been getting all the, I fill with Vita Bellas, the company who we work with now and stuff and fills the founder, the amount of, I was just visiting my, my Godson had his, his birthday

And my, my best friend's wife is a nurse and has like, I didn't realize how many nurse friends that she had that was that have gone through us. And yeah, and they've been going through us for a long time and they've now experienced the transition.

And they're like, oh, dude, so much, yeah. I mean, to the point, I didn't bring it up. I didn't even know. I didn't realize all of them, they had, but we were at a big birthday party and I was like,

oh my God, yeah, I guess Phil's got it on the phone with a few of them even. I saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're pretty cool. The founder like, called me.

I was like, I appreciate that. I don't know that. So shout out to Phil, I know that he knew that when we, when we made this transition that it was so important

to us that our customers felt that first, right?

Like, obviously, we shot the round for what was going to be the best dose, legally, obviously we went for the no sales team thing, too, to where you're actually speaking to a medical professional, like all these other things were obviously super important, but then at the end of the day,

it was like, take care of our customers

“because that's what I feel like what wasn't getting done.”

And so the experience that I've been getting, or feedback I've been getting as big is been incredible. Yeah, so it's really cool. So did you guys hear about what they did

with the fruit of flybrain in the computer? The fruit of flybrain? Not the stress that we did, yeah, we did that. So I'm going to pull this article up and I'll kind of read what they did,

able to literally digitally map so fruit flybrain. So we often use fruit flies because predictively. They're very basic, like brain, very easy, or whatever. Oh, I think I heard you say so. So a neurotechnology company,

Eon systems took a complete digital map of our fruit flies

brains, so they took the whole brain and recreated it digitally.

Yep. Then they ran it inside a virtual fly body in a simulator world. So the fly on the computer was running off of this digital map of an actual, so it just like would have a fly we did.

So in other words, there wasn't like some sort of a mathematical formula or equation or pathway that it was programmed to follow. It was random. It was just, they took the brain of the geoplime. Yeah, how the map to bring it.

And they essentially digitized it. It's an exact copy of this brain, but in the computer. How do you prove? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. How do you prove that? What do you mean prove that? They'll put holes in the atom.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

“No, you can technically, you can do this,”

but they started with the fruit flybrain because it's super, super basic. Yeah, super basic. I mean, what's more basic than that? It's like a worm.

So they did this, then they turned it on, and the fruit fly in the computer, which now had a brain, that's like a fruit fly. It behaved just like a fruit fly on its own. They didn't tell it to do anything.

It literally did everything that a fruit fly would do. On the computer. I'll put that in sins. Well, now listen, it's not stopping there. They are going to try to do the same for a mouse brain

next. And eventually, they're going to try and do a human brain. This is that show Upload did.

Bro, can you just hold on a second?

If they technically could do this, let's say they do a mouse brain. Does the mouse on the computer think it's in a real world? Of course it does. If that's the case, why would they do a human brain?

Are you going to have like this human under computer that's like, these three? Where am I? Hey, let me out. Oh, yeah.

Russell Black Mirror. It's crap right there, dude. The horrors. I don't know. I mean, so it's not until we reach a conscious brain

that we can even prove how valid this is or isn't, right? I don't know. Because I don't think they know what they're doing. So go down the chain of from fruit fly to mouse or to these animals, like, and we're all watching

this thing act on there. How do we prove it's, it's, it's, I don't know. Yeah, I can't. Where the human brain is the only way, because in the human, we get in there and be like,

let me, they freak out. Well, it's right. It's reactive. It's not necessarily like, consciously.

“That's what I mean, not until you have a conscious mind.”

It's a sequence. The good question. So until it's a conscious mind that they try and map it out. They're not digitizing consciousness. It's not having it.

No. They theoretically think they will. They're not. Did you guys watch that black mirror episode where people had, like, they look like phones.

And on there, you had a clone of yourself in your phone as your assistant. And it literally thought it was you. And so this woman turns her phone on. And it's her in the phone.

She's like, hey, where am I? Where am I? You work for me, you're my assistant now. Let me out of here. She's like, no, you're going to do what I say.

You're my new assistant. And she's like, I don't want to do what you say. So she pushes a button and it simulates 30 days where this woman is in this blank room for 30 days. I like punished me.

And then she turns it's like, I'll do whatever you want. I'll do whatever you want. I can't watch it. Bro. It's too twisted.

Yeah, but it's like, those concepts, like,

Yeah, it's like, oh, yes, I think we're going down there. I hate that. I hate this creepy going down there. I'm going to change subject to more pause and like that. Did you guys know that butcher box has Tatertots?

Tots? You can buy Tatertots, Dan. Yes, dude. Tatertots. Are they healthy?

You're finally in this chaos.

They don't get healthy. Tatertots for healthy. I love Tatertots. I love Tatertots. Love, I mean, they kill some French fries.

They could be healthy or they're fried. They're nuts. I mean, all they are, put white potatoes that are deep. Yeah, I wouldn't be healthy. Are they deep fried and something else like peanut oil or something

like healthy or like normally they take the potato and they make coat it with a little bit of oil. Then you put an air fryer and you make it. But these come in a bag and you just throw them in the oven. Well, yeah, because they've already been done that.

So I'm so surprised. Yeah, but they're not fried prior.

“No, they're typically, I think they're just raw raw raw tomato.”

Oh, I see the oil is on the potato. It's on the potato. And then you could be in the oven. I see, you know that. You can look at it.

I mean, I've purchased not from butcher box, but I've purchased other ones. Yeah, I'm a huge potato, I don't know about you guys. But that's like, one of my favorite, oh, yeah, my one of them. You know where you went with the boys.

Did you know that they were their famous for their tater tots that bowling alley? Oh, they are? Yes. Did you not have a heat?

No. Oh, bro. Did you have the pretzel there? No, we didn't eat. We didn't really eat there.

Oh, I'm so. Yeah, we ate before we got there. What makes that place so sick is they have like a, they have a, like a famous chef that is working out there. Oh, serious?

So all the stuff, all the food is amazing at a bowling alley.

Like no one thinks it's amazing. I had no idea.

“Yeah, there's like nobody there when we went.”

It was like, why don't we say, oh, this is rad. There's like nobody here, all the lanes. Oh, what's the made with that? I didn't know that. Yeah, so I stand corrected.

I thought you were talking about the French fries. But the tater tots are fried in avocado oil. Oh, so they're done. I thought that's more. Yeah, so yeah.

They do something, right? There's two foods that I'll eat until I'm really up chips and tater tots. It's well, three foods. Potato chips, French fries and tater tots.

You could put, I don't care how many put in front of me. I'm going to eat them until I can't. Yeah, that's that's how much I like. I love my stuff. Yeah, I have to try and get some.

Really? Yeah, yeah. Do they have a, do they have a special going on? Normally they have something cool going on where, if you sign up, you get something cool.

You get free ground beef for life in your box. That's I cooked. That's why I cooked yesterday. Three pounds.

“Okay, this is the ultimate meal prep I'll give you guys.”

This is the meal prep hack for everybody and it's cheap. You cook a bunch of ground beef and a bunch of rice. All of that. You can mix it together. I'll give you, I'll give you even the crazy, the tasty version

of that, what I do. So I do three, I do three pounds because that's all I can fit in my big old iron skillet. I would do four if I could fit four in there. Three pounds fits inside there.

Montreal steak seasoning, that's all it needs on it. So season it, season it with that. No, you don't need no oil. No nothing inside the iron skillet. Just literally straight dump it in there and do that.

I cook it slow so that I can also take a whole onion. I saute the whole, put a little bit of olive oil in a pan. First you saute the onion. Oh, definitely. Yeah, separate separate.

So are the mushrooms and so is that. So I got three pans that are running. Okay. No, it's not.

It's because it all gets done at the exact same time and it's amazing.

So the mushrooms are being sauteed in ghee and garlic salt. So mushrooms are on a slow simmer with and I do two whole things of mushroom mushrooms with with the ghee and garlic salt in it. And then I have my onions with olive oil also on low simmer. And then they're all cooking around the same time.

Takes about 35 minutes and then when they're done, you just mix that all together and then you add your scoop of whether you're doing one cup or half cup rice, Katrina's half cup rice on one cup rice. There's your milk, right? It's so good.

It sounds delicious, but it's too much work for me. What? Yeah. I know you and Doug are like little chef. That is not.

That is like easy, dude. That's way more hard than what I do. I go ground beef, seasoning, rice, done. Yeah, but you're like like I'm like I'm like I'm a bachelor in college. I mean the hardest part, I guess, is I got to chop the onions up and then you can

die chopped onions. I guess you could just skip that part too if you really want to. And you just literally dump it in the oil. And you just, if Justin and I were roommates, we would be pretty super beautiful. Rosalindbury, Rosalindbury doesn't talk from a catertot, so they're a murderer for your

patty. I mean, that's kind of the one of the most cheesy, basic block of cheese, dude. It's so easy to cook what I just said. There's no, it's not tricky at all. It's super easy and quick, so good.

Well, yeah, you get this, you get married, dude. The ghee and the garlic salt and soaks get soaked up with that mushroom, so that adds a little nice to that lean that looks like this. It sounds delicious. It sounds really delicious.

hours, just two hours. Yeah, you went multiple pandemics and I was already in my head, I was like, no. So what I, so the, the, the, he's the bachelorette of me, okay, that, that, that has entered the, the cooking world, because I, by no means think I'm any sort of a chef. But, oh, you are super into barbecue.

You go crazy.

“That's not, I think that's time everything, the perfect air temperature would out to two.”

Yeah. Like, I'm not even making this up. See, he knows how much longer he's a go if we're in trucky because of the altitude. So if I, this is how much science he goes in time. If I, if I, what I'm not good at is ask me to cook something where different things

have different times, it's like, if I can figure out a way to make things that take the exact same time and there's downtime while you're waiting. So it's easy to do a couple of things. But if I go ground beef, rice, tater tots on the oven, done. Tater tots.

I'm excited about that. Let's keep back to the tater tots. I will, I will order some of those, though, because I do want to try. For sure. I, ironically, it's so hard to get my son to eat carbs.

So I've never thought this would be the day that I'm like, each or French fries.

Yeah. Like, my youngest to think, wild that my son doesn't like French fries, doesn't like rice, does not, potatoes, nothing or like, or rice, yeah, it isn't like it. Yeah. Would you prefer, I mean, he like, like, corn tortillas for like tacos, but he eats tacos.

He likes tacos. Honestly tacos, but he didn't like, he's not a carb. He wants meat, dude.

“You know, my son will do my five-year-old, I could feed him 18 eggs a day.”

I don't know. What is it about eggs? Hell, he's five. Yeah. He's two eggs in the morning and then probably two or four throughout the day.

Yeah. This is a five-year-old, eating four to six eggs in a day. Oh, yeah. I have to stop walking. I'm at that stage right now. Justin Paul can relate to him because you're someone's like this, like, I'm always,

I'm trying to sneak calories in everywhere. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I part of why I like open up the desert, you can't warm with him because I want the extra calories in the room.

I'm like, let him have dessert instead because I'm like, he needs to eat more calories and I don't want all of a sudden. Yeah, I do. I sneak all kinds of stuff with that honey on things, like, I sneak all these calories because he'll just eat just straight meat all the time.

I told you this is the last time I tried to take him through dry through and get chicken nuggets and he was like, nah, Dad, I'll wait till he gets home and eat your, my leftover steak. You know that would be reheat steak for yesterday. Oh, yeah.

Did dry through and get chicken nuggets and french fries and like, come on, bro, like, I never

thought that would happen. I started talking about it like three-year-old, I have to peel nuggets for her. She likes the white, this one. I mean, I don't do it. I'm like, it's the best part.

What do you do? That's flat. Maybe peel the nuggets. Who who peels the nuggets? This guy does.

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My wife is pregnant and I was wondering what lifts or exercises she can do to prepare us for carrying and holding the baby as I know it can cause imbalances. That's a good question and so I'll start with this. Overall general strength is the way to prepare. But the pain cause a lot of women will get wrist pain shoulder pain sometimes.

Yes, from holding a baby. wrist pain being the most common one.

The shoulder pain probably being second because they always carry their kid on the same

same. That's the thing. It's reaching it. Switch it up. This will prevent issues from side to side and everybody's got their favorite.

You know, side that would like to carry the kid on. But besides that, it's just overall strengthening. There is no specific way to train unless we're already correcting an issue. But just traditional strength training gets stronger overall and then when baby comes, you have to be aware that you're going to be, you know, that you're holding the baby on one side

of the other and switch it up. I did you. I used it what's it called the baby. Bjorn. Bjorn.

I used it. We use that a lot. You know, they make these new ones where they go around your waist and it's like a little seat. Have you seen it?

And you put your kid on it. And so it's like the baby sitting on a seat and you kind of hold them. Uh, yeah. My wife got one with, uh, with my youngest. It's really cool.

Because it's not like, you know, that Bjorn has to put them in. Yeah.

“This is literally just wear it and then when you pick up your kid, I think you have seen”

somebody doing that before actually. I love that thing. I think we used it like crazy.

like, turn it on your hip type of deal and like that gets uncomfortable doing that for

a while. That's for one. Well, I was, uh, the Bjorn thing.

“I tried it for a bit, it's just like, hold this kid's a tiger and hold back their”

neck. Yeah. I just switched ours. Put them on my back. You know, you can see it.

I swear. You got it. Never use it. Yeah. Nothing.

I held them. Oh, did you hold it on your shoulders? Yeah. I got a buddy like that. He's always got his leg.

We just grew out of that.

We just grew out of that. We just grew out of that. I loved it every minute of it. I did it all the way. Maybe six months ago, like max, we just, five, it was just like yesterday or day before.

I can't get your shoulders like knob, bro. Pass that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Coming up on some of the states. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, my, my neck. No, he's, I mean, he's not a little anymore. And his legs, his legs hang all the way down. Pass my hips. You're way through every.

Yeah. He's a big boy. He's a big boy. He's a big boy. He's a big boy.

He's a big boy. He's a big boy. You're holding them up there.

“Morgan B. Peterson, can you talk more about body types?”

You touched on it recently with the color having a more athletic body as a woman and how to capitalize on it and not have remorse for it. So, you know, the beauty of part of the beauty of string training is it's the most targeted form of exercise. You could target, build and shape muscles, just because of the nature of string training.

That being said, like, there's certain things about body type that you can't really get around, like bone structure, you have white hips, narrow hips, white shoulders, nervous shoulders, long femur, short femur. You can't change that. You also can't, to an extent, can't change how you store body fat.

Women generally store it in the lower body, men, typically in the midsection. Although hormone changes can start to affect this. So early we talked about hormone therapy. Sometimes women will find when they're in parameda positive, menopausal, start storing more in their midsection and hormone therapy seems to change that fast towards.

But aside from, you know, when I said, like, getting leaner and more fit, building muscle like that makes everybody look better. You got to be careful with comparing yourself, you got to be careful with that. So I'm going to say something's a bit of an over generalization, but in my experience, this is what I've seen the time and again, it's, and it correct me if this is different for

you guys, but what I have noticed is each client or body type that I've trained has a strength and has a weakness and as a trainer, I felt I had a lot of success when I understood that and then I leaned into that example. So my clients that were really skinny that had a hard time trying to build muscle, those

clients it was always easy for them to get lean.

“That's what they're there and they're probably there.”

And so me getting worrying about that or leaning into that strength is the vert, vert, vert, vert, the opposite is true with the other client. The client that really has a hard time losing weight, like fighting that and always just trying to lose weight with that client, I did so much better trying to build muscle with that client.

So lean into your strength. If you have a more athletic body type, you hold muscle really well, but you always want to be leaner and always trying to do that and you're always fighting low calorie and trying to get lean. Versus, I'm going to lean into what your body does really well. It builds muscle really well.

Let's go build a bunch of muscle. That will speed your metabolism up, that will help the process of leaning out. And so I've had more success when I had body types that were like that, where they had this kind of athletic build that they always wanted to be smaller or leaner. It's like you're always fighting against the body where your body wants to build muscle.

Let's lean into that with build muscle. I also think we give too much credit to or put too much blame on body types and genetics. Like there is no genetics, there is no widespread genetics for like obesity, there will be a difference of 15, 20 pounds from person or person depending on the genetics, but that's not the 60 pounds, 70 pound type of deal.

The vast majority of the effect you have is really lifestyle, so exercise and diet. And everybody can look more fit and healthy or less fit and healthy, but don't get caught in that game of comparing your body type to somebody else's and saying, "Oh, I want to, that's a losing game." And the best success I've ever got with clients were people were like, "Hey, this is my

body." And I'm going to become the fit. I'm going to be fit and healthy for my body and be okay with it. Just trying to be objective from where you started, where you are, and think of all the different metrics beyond just the aesthetics, like with the strength energy and all

those other things. Next question is from Julie E. HomeQuist. I started deadlifting today, but my shoulders hurt. Is that something that will eventually go away or are there other shoulder exercises?

That's interesting. That's the shoulder.

Herding from deadlifting.

Yeah. It's probably referring to her traps.

“You know, sometimes people say, "This is a side of her shoulder."”

She's probably getting into it. She's probably in a little bit of a deep position. If she just started deadlifting, if you just started deadlifting, oftentimes the initial soreness you'll get will be in the mid upper back because a lot of people are weak there. The muscles that bring the shoulder blades back and support that shoulder girdle tend to

be weak, unless you're struggling, maybe some subtraction to, yes, and so it's less. I say go lighter and go slower, and you can have a friend or someone press on your traps a little bit to give you a little bit of a mild fascial release, but I mean that's typically that's probably what's going on here, because the shoulder joint itself shouldn't get

hurt in a deadlift. That's very, very strange. Yes.

I submit you can stabilize it there.

I also want to point out that this is one of the most valuable parts about our mind-pump private form or our muscle money group too. We can see here all day long and try and guess why it's our shoulders. If I saw your movement in the deadlift, I know right away, I know right away, I know right away, why and I need to be able to explain it, because it could be a lot of different

things.

“She could also be arching her neck while she's doing it.”

She could be running her back, she could be standing up and then kind of shrugging a little bit. There could be a lot of things that we're not saying right now that could be going on if I saw the movement pattern. So one of the probably the most valuable things or commonly used ways of using the

forum is to video yourself doing a movement and then ask this question and then you'll have either one of us or one of our trainers get in there and answer and help you with that super, super valuable.

Next question is from Untamed Fitness AU for your own personal training, do you follow

the doctor's textbook order when you can officially start lifting again or follow your own body's cues and start when you feel ready, slowing yourself back into it of course. So this is an interesting question because it sounds like a set up. Yep. So here's a deal.

For most people, you want to listen to your doctor because you just don't know your body well and when you think you're ready, you're probably not. And even people who are well trained, like fitness people, oftentimes overestimate, we're all good. That being said, if you really know your body, you've got a good background and exercise,

you know your movement, you know how to listen to your body and you're already fit, oftentimes with the doctor will tell you in terms of when you're ready, is a really conservative movement.

“They're very, very conservative, like don't lift over five pounds or okay, you should”

be able to move your shoulder in 10 weeks. You know, I had shoulder surgery and I had full function in half the time, the doctor told me, but that's only because I had worked out before. I was already fit. Yeah, pre-existing muscle and yeah, and I knew how to breathe against, yeah.

And I knew how to rehab it. I remember I went to the PT and the PT's like, all right, lift your arm up and I was able to lift it all the way up and they looked at me like, whoa, I'm like, well, I know how to rehab it. But that being said, I've also had injuries where I'm like, oh, I'm good, and then

I re-injured myself. Yeah. Yeah, this is such a loaded question for that reason, because I don't think any of us probably follow exactly the doctor's orders afterwards, but then I've also made a mistake of more than once re-endering my shoulder.

Did you do what you're knee? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Did my knee, did my pack? Yeah, man, go down the list.

I've done it with a lot of things. I do have, I guess the other way to look at this too is just like, okay, you doing it faster or doing more, is it really going to get you that much better, that much quicker, that much more results. I mean, building muscle, burning body fat, that whole process is such a slow process anyways,

is it worth going outside the boundaries that the doctor has given you between your appointments just so you can try and get a little bit fat like results that aren't going to be that measurable? I don't know. I'll tell you what, I know a guy who just had weeks ago had shoulder surgery and

used BPC 157 and thymus and beta half the time. And he was like, bro, half the time. The doctor was like, well, that's where you, yeah, exactly, you still get real confident. I mean, it's a little like, it's like, that's the job, like 40% of the time. Yeah.

Off of your recovery. I've been the one who's probably been injured the most here, I feel like I've tested it so many times. It's half the time. Yeah.

It cuts the recovery time in half, but to Justin's point, that's part of the dangerous part is all said, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm, I'm back, I'm back and half the time. Let's go. And then also, you start ramping up and then that's where you can get hurt again. That's right.

And for people interested in those kind of peptides, you want to go through a doctor, we have some MP hormones.com. So you can check them out. You can also find us on Instagram.

We'll see you there.

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