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That's what creates community and that's the main thesis of our book club and why we started it was just to connect people together. Listen to the bookmark by Reese's Book Club podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, and welcome to my favorite murder. That's George a hard start. That's Karen Kilcaref. I can do puppetry.

Well, when you're examining suddenly we have a third host. It's Karen's hand and it's puppet shape. It's my hand that doesn't approve. He does look, he has something to say. Yeah, his name is Ag Burt and he looks a little disappointed.

And he's a little bit disappointed in us. I'm sorry. What does it mean that your own hand puppet is disappointed in you? It's not good. Psychologically. Little Catholic.

Little Jewish. Little little woman being a woman. Little woman. Yeah. How's it going?

How do you feel right now? Okay, my face is a little numb still. I had some done like some dental work. What'd you get?

“Well, I've been going to this adorable like family neighborhood dentist for years.”

I'm not going to say what it is and I love them and I go regularly. I'm really good at getting my teeth clean and I'm a good girl about it. And then I went to this place a couple of months ago. Like a month ago. I went to this place a month ago by my house.

It's like just closer and a little nicer. And he's like, you have so many fucking issues that this little mom and pop dental place have no technology and don't didn't know about. So you're so fucked.

No.

I get a third opinion though.

Why are you not? Because he's showing me photos of my fucking teeth and there's like holes and cracks in them. Like cracks in my teeth. And then you go back and check it's actually a florist and you've been going to completely wrong place.

I've just been on acid every time. I'm like that's so weird. I was a ketamine dream Georgia. You haven't been to the dentist in 10 fucking years. Ketamine dream.

Like you take ketamine. You're like, you know what I need to do. Go to the dentist in my mind. This ketamine doesn't work.

Then you're suddenly like, why is there a family at this dentist office?

Why is there a child working on my teeth? I don't think I trust her. But whatever. But whatever. If that's how you guys need to gentle.

Nothing wrong with me. So I guess I'm trying to be. He's covered. So I can so proud of myself. You know?

I'm very sorry about this news because you know that I know about dental issues. Yeah. Yeah. But tough. No, it sucks.

And it feels so old. I feel old. It makes me feel old. Yeah. Like suddenly like your teeth are just old now. And they're only going to get older and fall out and fall out and crunchier and breakier.

And you grind your teeth. Like it's only going to get worse. It's going to get worse.

“And I think about that every time I bite my cheek while I'm eating like a animal.”

Right. Oh, which I do stress. Or worse. Yeah. Eat your own cheek.

Did we tell everyone on the recording podcast about my mom not having a tooth?

I don't think we can. Okay. Okay. That's a big easter egg for the future. Yeah.

Can we leave that in? I think so. Probably right. I think I can't get us. Come out of it.

I can't get us from here. Come out of big dental. I fucking don't give a shit. We'll say it. We'll say it all.

But you know what's hard about. Dentists remind me a lot of hair stylist. Where if you choose to leave for your own personal reasons. And then you run into that person in real life. I ran into my old dentist and I clearly really hurt his feelings by bailing on him.

Because it was a recommendation. My friend went there. I thought he was great. And you look amazing. Like it's only running into an axe and like having like blown up since you broke up with them.

Check out these gigantic teeth. Check out this. You shouldn't do it. Oh my god. But you know what?

You're right about that too. And that's sometimes the hairdresser that you've been to for years. Just fucks up one time. And then. So like you have.

You don't just can't do that. That's right. That's not the same thing when you're done. Just doesn't. You don't even get one with dentistry.

You shouldn't. You get a bad bang. And then you go to someone else. Every hair stylist I've stopped going to is purely because they're too far away. And I would end up being late enough that it's fucking their business up.

And I'd be like, it's immoral for me to continue going to this place. Question. Yes. Thought. I can't.

Ponder. Our teeth. The bangs of the mouth. I'm not going to question. Teeth are the bangs of the mouth.

You throw the bangs of the mouth. If you have the money to adjust your teeth as much as you want to. Or. Oh, right. Well, they can grow my teeth out.

Right. Even more. Show your face. You're blocking your beautiful face with all this teeth. You need to feature more of your cheeks using your big teeth.

Am I high on dental drugs? And doesn't it work? Yeah. Since this is podcast. What's all being ketamine?

This whole time. And now, if you don't mind, I crosspitch you a new podcast, which is on ketamine all the time. The new Georgia Hearts are great. It's just me and a guest fucking, like, passed out on a cat hole. It's more of an animated show because you would just above your heads.

Show what you're. That'd be great. The whole thing about. Have you ever been in a cat hole? I've taken, I've taken therapeutic ketamine.

I've never took it out. Yeah. Yes. So yes. So you have?

Yeah. Well, you know the feeling of being away. Yeah.

“I don't think, I think a cat hole is like a bad thing, right?”

Like, who you can't get out. I've been in it and been there. And new, I was going to get out. And you got escorted out by a nice lady in a pantsuit. That's right.

There are a few that kind of mean. This is, yeah. Hit me up, everyone. I'm fucking, I'm a big fan. I just don't need a rough.

Leave her alone. Well, just, you have to tune in to my podcast. That's what I'm talking about. Everything is kind of mean. To see what the hit-up is that we reference to.

Okay. I would know. Okay. Should we get to work? This is our ketamine.

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of honking her A's featuring the real life driving of misdeer to heart. I remember what happened when we were in the car. And I think I scared you a little a couple times. You are a Los Angeles native clearly. Yeah.

“That's what I learned from driving with you.”

And I'm from the part of California that's long open roads for nobody else drives. You know what my thing is? If in me apocalypse in the zombie apocalypse, you want to be in my car. And the like, we got to get the fuck out of here and everyone is running. Like, I can get us out of here.

You are tank girl. Yes, but it's just regular not like three o'clock traffic. And that's why people get so upset with you. This is actually all in ad for beta blockers. Which I take now before I get in the car before Vince drives me anywhere.

Your 100% right. Your body doesn't know the difference between three o'clock on a Tuesday and zombie apocalypse. No. Your body's probably fine. My body doesn't know.

No. My body has no idea what it's going on. Just going like this all the time. Literally anything that happens. And I'm just like, can I be talking about that for a month?

Do you know my therapist said today in the moment stop talking all the time? Let's see about that. Mine and Vince's therapist said to me, I was talking about crying and how hard it is for me. And she just showed me your story. I'm sorry.

I didn't see it. And she, I can't cry. It's really hard for me. And I really actually want to.

“Did you know that tears contained the hormone cortisol?”

What? Roll the tape. You've said this. Yeah. On this show to you.

Oh, I wasn't listening for the last 10 years. Oh, shit. Sorry. Listen. That's fine.

And that's okay. So tired and feel good afterwards. Yes. So I have so much cortisol in my body because I have the, I'm like that cartoon where they have the like water up to their eyeballs.

Yes. And it's so interesting because most women especially judge themselves for crying. And now you're judging yourself for not crying. Yes.

It should be like, but you'd never judge yourself for not yawning or yawning.

Wow. And that is really the truth of it. Because every time you've seen me crying, we've all heard me crying this. I guess I didn't know what's coming. It's just that kind of thing.

It's like, well, this has to get out right now. I want that. Yeah. You can have it.

“It's just like you have to stop thinking about it and just let it happen.”

Yeah. But the first time it might, you might want to be at home for it. If more happens than just crying. That's what happened. And both of them are both like, we should talk about this because it was like, what's happening?

It's hard. Don't get it. If you weren't allowed to have feelings, then it's hard to have feelings. Thank you. That's so true.

You're welcome. What if, like, from now on, I just don't stop crying because you, like, told me I could give you the permission. Sorry. These are, they're perfect.

I mean, these are the clothes. It is weird to sit across from you. Now in my career, in my adult career and look at you wearing the clothes that I watch people wear in high school. Yeah.

You're new as to era of kind of mid 80s clothes. It's just like, oh, is it picture day? What did I forget? Like, that's what it brings up in me.

I want to look like justine statement became your, like, first grade teacher.

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Okay, this is a story I am surprised you haven't covered, because it's got a lot of Karen, you know, in the pinball machine. Ring, ring, ring, ring, ring, ring. You got a lot of those for you. The bells and buzzers and, yeah. This takes place in Italy.

Oh. It's a disaster story.

Okay, it takes place in Italy. It's a disaster story.

There are amazing survivor.

This is involved Mount Etna. No. Pompey. No. Oh, if I didn't Pompey.

We don't Pompey is a crime. No. It's not funny. We're getting here. It's never funny.

It's Friday the 13th in January of 2012, so not Pompey. Okay. And we're just off the Western coast of Italy. Oh, God. So now I'm going to have to say these names and places.

Just north of Chivotaveka. Chivotaveka. Well, hold on. We've got Liana squelats. Liana squelats here.

She and the booths, so let's hear the correct pronunciation if she has it. Chivotaveka. Chivotaveka. Chivotaveka. Like, I don't know.

I've got that. Thank you, Liana. Leave in all of these. How did you pronounce it? Chivotavka.

Could also be. Vecca. Yeah, Vecca. Okay. Well, I'm not going to ever say it again.

The busy cruise port that serves Rome. Oh. You know Rome. We're on a luxurious cruise ship with about 4200 people on board. And what's about to happen is going to be one of the worst.

Maritime disasters in recent history, which led to the tragic death of 32 people. Can't tell them what you just said with your hands further. I was turning both hands to the side to somehow nonverably express to Georgia's. Is that one about the big cruise ship that basically sinks. That is right.

This is the story of the ill-fated final journey of the Costa Concordia. Wow. And the main sources for the story is of the out of the Thayer article by Brian Burrow. And Josephine McKenna, which is really in depth. And then a two episode discovery, special called Costa Concordia.

Why she sank. Vincent, I watched it this week. It was one of those ones, really. Sometimes I'm like, hey, I have to watch this documentary for the show. Do you want me to wait for you or not?

“And if it's like a horrible murder, he's like, oh, why don't you go ahead?”

You go ahead. But this one, he was like, yeah, I watched that. So we watched it. It's good. It's not as complete as you'd want, but it's good.

I'm surprised there isn't a new one that's like a bigger story about it. Because it's just, I didn't know anything about that. I didn't know people died. I feel like I don't know anything about it either, except for the final visual, which was this gigantic cruise ship like in a bay essentially, right?

Yeah. Yeah. But it's basically a fucking enormous luxury cruise ship on its fucking side, where it's not supposed to be. In the foreground, there's a light house to give you perspective of how gigantic this ship is.

I read that it was like, if you were next to a 17 story building, that's how tall it was. That's what gets me nauseous. How many stories? Yeah.

Okay. Two big. The rest of the sources can be found in the show notes. That's right. The Concordia belongs to the Italian cruise line Costa, so Costa Concordia,

which is a subsidiary of Carnival Cruises whose headquarters are in Miami. We were like, it was like a lot of the succession in the beginning of a TV show succession. There was like a whole cruise ship. Yeah.

Something was like, oh, like someone high up on this ship. Okay. The Concordia has been in circulation since 2005 when its construction was completed in

Genoa and the ship cost 400 million to build, which in today's money.

600 million? 629 million. 580 to 612 million. 626 million.

“That's what I would do if I were ever on fucking wheel or what's the one called?”

Price is right. Oh, price is right. I would say a weird, because I can't do numbers. Yes. I'd say that in front of fucking.

I would just, my mouth would say whatever my brain served up. 612 million. 666. Basically. Yeah.

That's 666 million dollars. That's how much today it would cost. Inflation. Okay. And of course, the devil also cost your soul.

That went away a long time ago. Oh, the devil? Nice soul. You should've told me. Okay, and it's made in voyage the champagne bottles, speaking of superstitions and bad things.

That had been smashed against this whole head failed to break, which is considered a bad omen, but it's like, shot the fog up. At the time. No, it's among both people. Right.

Exactly. Which what are you going to do? Oh, yes. This one's out of commission. Yeah.

Turn the whole 666 million dollar project in because this bottle didn't break.

Exactly. I'm sure they haven't broken before. I think what did damn it more than anything else. And they got to stop doing this. Is they called it unthinkable.

Uh, you got to stop fucking calling things unthinkable. It doesn't work. This is not an manifestation situation. Just do your best to do some, do some cruises. Yeah, that's great.

Where's the humility? Truly.

“Because that's what they said about the fucking Titanic.”

That's right. Shut up. Like, you didn't learn your lesson. Okay. Why am I mad at these people?

Yeah. All right. At the time, it had been Italy's largest cruise ship and one of the largest cruise ships period ever. And the year since cruise ships have only gotten bigger and bigger, which is bananas.

In 2012, when our story takes place, the ship is only seven years old.

“And there are still just a few ships with significantly higher passenger capacities than the concordia.”

Today, some of the largest cruise ships have passenger capacities. Uh, 7600 people and carry around 10,000 people total including the crew. Hmm. That's a small town. That's a small town.

On this night, so it's night time. It's January. It's a little chilly. Most of the ships passengers are just beginning their trip. They just boarded at Chetavica.

Chetavica. Chetavia. Leonne. She's probably working. Chetavica.

Chetavica. Chetavica. Chetavica. Chetavica. Most of them.

They're starting their week-long cruise around the Mediterranean. They stopped at Ali did this on purpose. They stopped at Savonia. Marseille. Barchellona.

Nice. Myorca. And Sardinia. Ansusili. Those ones were great to that.

Yeah. So it's kind of like the send off and it's really exciting and they're just getting go in that evening.

“Among the ship's passengers on this particular voyage are a large contingent of hairdressers.”

Okay. Like how fun would that be? Amazing. hairdressers are the most fun people. They know where to go.

They know what to order. They know how to do small talk. Like the best of that. I have so much coke. I'm just acting.

Sorry. No. This is the hairdresser episode. So the reason they're a bunch of hairdressers there are they're competing on an Italian and reality TV show which is shooting on the cruise.

So it's just like a big amount of. I can't throw to the clip. I want to see the show. I know. No, it didn't go great.

Okay. Then there are lots of vacationers of course mostly European and particularly Italian. But there are also about 100 Americans. The Concordia has 1500 cabins, six restaurants, 13 bars, four swimming pools, a casino and a disco. So think of the resort.

We just went to the Bahamas. Bahamas. But on a fucking 17 story ship. I do it. In the middle of the ocean.

Hell yes. We could have been on a ship while we were there and not known it. Because it was just condensed. We never left. Yeah.

We were all walking around.

“Like the one day I went and I got to get a massage at the spa.”

Yeah. Trying to find my way back. I know. Was wild. But it all was like the same.

Yeah. And I was like, this is so weird because I know this isn't that big. But I cannot find the front of this building. Yeah. Anyway.

But then also hey you're in the middle of the fucking ocean. Yeah. That part I don't like. No, no. And yeah.

And that's you've learned about that by the ground. Becoming completely sideways as we know. Right. Right. And your parents are big cruise heads.

My parents were the people in the late 50s or early 60s who were like, I don't have a career. I'm going to go work on the ships. So my mom. So cool. Got her nursing license.

And then what worked on the ships and my dad was a person. Because he was driving chicken delivery trucks. That's so cool. Like that. I would go on a.

I would get a job on a cruise. Right. Like in this documentary. They interviewed this woman who is a dancer in the like shows on the cruise. Yes.

And it's like what an amazing.

Career. What an amazing time in your life. If you're in your 20s, 30s, 40s, and you're just like, I just. It's like being a flight attendant almost where you just like get to satisfy this need that you want to be places and to be around people. I mean, it's just you can be all different kinds of people.

And but here's the difference I would say for this is my dad was a person and then later on. He moonlit while he was a fireman and worked at the person's union. So to think about the fact that when my dad and mom worked there, they were unionized. Wow. And they, of course, are not anymore.

And that's the real problem with a lot of people these days where they're like, I work 49 hours in a row or whatever. The centerpiece of the ship is a nine story atrium. You know, that looks like the Emerald City. Think what's that hotel downtown? The Bonaventure.

Bonaventure hotel. That's got like indoor elevators that like look down on this atrium. It's like that. But it's fucking emerald green. Like it's the Wizard of Oz.

Oh, shit. I don't think I can show you. Show me something green. What's that thing? That's a green. A green.

Here's something green. Oh, an emergency something. Don't have it. Oh, that's okay. No problem.

Stop asking. Okay. There's mustard station. That's great. Oh, happy family.

That teenage daughter. It doesn't want to be there. Yep. Middle child son. It's just like, who's actually really friendly and doing a lot of karaoke.

Okay. Youngest daughter who's not gotten out of the pool for five days straight. Oh, my God. Great. Um, some people think it's a little tacky though.

But it's, you know, got that old Vegas kind of, you know, it's a, it's a cruise ship. Yeah. No one's there to be chic and fashion week. Right.

It's not the idea. This isn't Viking Cruises. This isn't a Viking Cruises. River Cruises. Hey, Viking River Cruises.

Hey, Viking River Cruises.

I've always wanted to go to Egypt.

Can we please get on the river?

Okay. At the helm of the Concordia is a captain named Francesco Skiatino. And if you remember the story at all, you know that he's going to make a lot of mistakes tonight. Yeah. Skiatino is 51 years old.

Very tan. Yeah. But yeah, unbuttoned his thing, you know. He's the rare pale Italian man who works on a boat. Right.

Somehow he's been wearing 75. He's so block. And he's just real pale. He's very experienced, but he's known for being outgoing and exuberant.

“And like, it's kind of like a showmanship to being a captain that you have to appreciate”

the size.

They come out the first night and everyone applauds you and they do a whole thing.

You know, it's like a big deal. Yeah. To be the captain of this ship. And almost, yeah. I can show you a photo of him that we have to just, we can't.

I can't show you on the screen, but you can look at it on our Instagram. If what he looks like, and I just think it's important to tell you. Clim, Richard Geer, Italian style. Here's a thing. I think that Italian men automatically unbuttoned to the third button.

Yeah. And if they try to keep it at the second button, it just pops off and it goes straight. They don't make them. He's like, you can't help it. And he looks like he just got up from a beach chair.

It's just fair show. What did you need to drink or something? Yeah. Yeah, there were quite a few like attractive. Oh, as played by George Clooney in this documentary.

Yeah. And this is like pretty wild. Yeah. Those people. Okay.

All right. Stop it. Get serious. Okay. So he's a well regarded captain.

Just north of C.A. V.C.A. is a small channel between. Okay.

So basically, they're going out into this channel.

Let's stick out from the Tuscan coast. It goes between the coast and an island called Isola, D.G. Leo. So just basically called G. Leo is the island, G.I.G. L.I.O. It's very small little island. Just off the coast.

And it's all male sex workers that live there. Jiggle. Just. So there's a thing called a sail by salute. Where you'd fly by.

Yeah. It's basically like to show off the boat to this small little community on the ocean. It's kind of a regular non-sankshend button but done thing in the captaining business. Just to kind of give everyone a little what's up. Okay.

And it's unclear whose idea this originally is. But the captain, Francesco Skatino, decided he's going to perform a sail by salute of the island of G.I.O. It's kind of to show off the ships to the locals.

“You know, which I think they get a kick out of two.”

Maybe. Maybe the first time. Right. It's like shut up there. Ah, you know, oh my god.

They're like where to island. We see ships all the time. Right. But this is the biggest fucking ship ever. So like it's like the big deal.

And the lights are all lit. It's evening. Home built. Right. When the ship is approaching the island to do this little drive by waves.

Skatino isn't personally at the controls at the moment. And tell the ship gets within about two miles of the island. So he had been having dinner near the bridge with a beautiful blonde woman who is. And not his wife. Listen.

Sometimes junior captains are attractive women. Okay. She's not his wife. She's not on the manifesto. Like she's not even like.

She's not supposed to be there. She bless her heart. She's a dancer. She's 26. He's 51.

Like she's not a passenger. And she's not an employee. Yeah. It's his mistress that he brought on for this little part of the trip. Yeah, so like most people think has no bearing on the story at all.

And she kind of got tarnished because of it. When really it was just like, but also he just went to dinner. It was probably drinking too. You sure imagine. Right.

Absolutely. And also it's like Italy. I don't think anyone surprised by having a mistress or drinks a dinner. Yeah. Let's not be.

Right. So I'm not going to say her name because she has just to man. I'm going to start defending Francesco. Okay. I love him.

Okay. A retired captain from the Costa line whose name is Mario Palombo lives on Geolio. And Scutino talks to him briefly on the phone while the ship isn't rooted to perform. So like, hey, we're going to do it.

And Scutino mentions his plan and he wants to pass within less than a mile of the island. And this Costa line captain, Captain Palombo. So he points out that it's winter, there won't be a lot of people to see the ship anyways. It's not tourist season. Like why don't you fight in its rocky shoreline?

It's not necessary. There's not much for war. How about you don't do that?

Basically he just said say hi and stay away.

Yeah. Like he knew it was a bad idea. Was it the dancer's home island? Like this is where I'm from. And I'm going to go by.

That would be cute. It's not.

“I think it was like, I don't understand.”

It's someone else's. It was not necessary at all in any way.

And it sounds like Scutino was already about a half mile from the island. Because that was likely the moment that they saw the rocks.

The problem is that Scutino had consulted his radar and charts.

But at this point he's mostly navigating by sight. And there's a fucking rock near the island. Even I. Even I. Not an Italian.

No that. Who only go on luxurious river cruises. No that. He's going about 15 knots, which we'd be considered very fast for navigating so close to the shore. He sees an outcropping of rocks and orders a turn to avoid limb.

And then misses a much closer large rock. Basically there's a scramble and he yells at the wrong thing. And everyone on board who's driving don't get a clear message of what to do from the captain. Right. This slams into the port left side of the ship.

So by the time like they see it, it's too late and they slam into it.

Yeah, I was just going to say if the ship is a half a mile away, but it's this gigantic thing in the water. It's like yeah, then you're there immediately. So it's nine 42 p.m. when this happens and this being Italy means that many of the ship's passengers are at dinner at this moment. Because they dinner late, right? You know.

Yes, absolutely. In the dining room passengers feel a series of big thumbs and immediately after the ship is at a tilt. Like they all know something happened. There's no way to ignore it. Plates go flying and smashing to the ground.

So embarrassing.

“Remember when our table collapsed when we were in Hawaii and that we didn't even do anything.”

And it was like the most humiliating thing that happened to any of us. Yeah. And it was only us.

Oh God, that was so, there's such a quiet buffet breakfast.

It was just like they had just set up an extra table because they knew that there was a lot of buffet brunch people. And ours was just like a fucking like conference room table. And someone kicked the thing that held everything together and it. Yeah. But it's kind of just like.

Yeah. No, it's not Liz. He's fault. I was. She kicked it.

But it was not her fault that she kicked something and everything collapsed. If it tables couldn't handle everybody having more than one beverage, which to me is what I felt. Right, play, play. Let's go flying. The grand piano.

That's being played at the moment. Detaches from at safety tethers and rolls across the room. All over the ship, people are seriously injured in falls. One musician, the piano player in the documentary says that he sees people bloody and holding their own teeth in their hands. So it happened quickly.

Yes, exactly. And so there's different levels of people getting hurt. Doesn't seem like anyone lost their life or anything. Yeah. Okay.

Amelia bland is a 21 year old British student and she's on board visiting her boyfriend who's one of the ship's engineers. But she has her own cabin and at the moment they're in the cabin watching a movie when they hear this huge and feel this huge hit. And it's so hard that the TV falls off the wall. So they got in the hallway and start climbing towards some of the higher decks when the ship loses power. Oh.

So all the lights go out. Big fucking crash and the lights go out. The emergency lights come on and Claudia Amelia's boyfriend tells her to stay put in one of these main areas and he's going to go see what's wrong. So the announcement starts playing saying the ship is experiencing an electrical problem. And it's really weird because it's 2012.

So only a few people have video of this. Like nowadays you'd get every fucking angle.

“Yeah, right. Yes, but 2012 there's like just a few clips that they play over and over again, which is I think so interesting.”

Yeah. Just only a couple of people were kind of there and ready. Right. And like had that capability on their phones. They says there's an electrical problem everyone should remain calm.

There's and everything will be fine shortly. Just don't freak out. At one point another announcement encouraged guests to return to their cabins. And then right around this time, Amelia's boyfriend Claudia returns and she says he looks action and tells her that several of the ship's watertight compartments have flooded.

So it's not a fucking electrical problem. Yeah. Meanwhile, the ship's hotel director, a 56 year old man named Mariko John Perdroni, is on the bridge. And you don't think about the fact that there's a captain on the ship. But there's also a hotel director because essentially you also need someone who knows how to run a hotel.

Yeah. He's confused as to why the captain hasn't declared a general emergency yet. He's like, let's get off the ship if we hit something immediately. The captain's casino, he does contact Costa's Operation Center and tells them that the ship has had two watertight compartments flooded. But the actual number is between three and five by now.

The whole time he downplays and doesn't react fast enough.

“And really, it seems like that's what causes loss of life in my opinion.”

That's tough. It's so embarrassing. Right.

Immediately like stupid mistakes. Stupid mistake. Like why did you even do it? And he's probably showing off maybe for the dancer, maybe not just in general. Yes.

Maybe for whoever's on that island. Totally.

“And I think the idea of like just deciding to evacuate all these people is a big decision that he doesn't want to make until he's sure about it.”

Yes. So he holds back and that. But that's life. Yes.

Well, he's probably thinking if we could never get that close.

Right. And I want to make sure this doesn't go up into a big. Right. It does turn into a bigger thing. Like, let's just see how bad it is before we start panicking.

Yeah. Yeah. We've all been there. Like, he wanted to what happens for a very long time. Same.

Who? Who doesn't admit anything? Who among us admits fucking shit. I crashed a ship. Good luck.

I crashed a ship. Right. It's not that hard. So the ship can possibly stay afloat with two compartments flooded. You've seen this from Titanic.

We're like the bottom thing is, but not with any more than that. And he does not call the coast guard.

At least 20 minutes after impact the coast guard first makes contact with the ship because a woman on the ship called her fucking mom from the ship.

And is like, we hit something. Please call the coast guard and tell us like what's going on. And so a police precinct elsewhere in Italy are the ones who take the call and tell them what happened. And they call the local police who contact the coast guard. So when the coast guard's contacts Latino right around 10 p.m.

They're like, hey, we got this call. He says that the ship is experiencing a blackout. And that's all it's going on right now. So another. And another chance to.

Hey, it's no big deal. It's a fucking blackout. Yeah. He didn't say that it was a crash or that the ship is taking on water. And the coast guard asks if Scatino needs assistance.

And he says no. And it's just unclear why he does that. Is it? Is it? You know, man.

There's really nothing like the feeling of making a dumb mistake. Even over a bad mistake. Because it was overtly a bad mistake. It would just be like start the emergency services. Yeah.

But he himself is in a world where he thinks he can fix his dumb mistake. Yeah. It's a dumb mistake that you're like, that's not me.

I would never do something like that.

Yeah. And so I'm just going to like pretend it's not happening. Because you were saying he was considered a good captain and like good. But like a little bit into the limelight of it all.

“So I think some people weren't surprised.”

You get into cruise ships for the limelight. You know. Yeah. It's my family business. Hey, list cruise ships.

Scatino likely realizes or acknowledges shortly after this conversation that he's going to have to evacuate the ship. It's safer to do so on land rather than an open water. Because now the ship hit the fucking rock and it's now veering out towards open water. Oh.

So he's freaking out about that and he's like, okay, people don't know if he did it on purpose or not. But basically he's able to beach the ship onto a bunch of other rocks and hit those rocks and remain there. So he's like basically right next to the island.

Okay. So he's closer. Like the ship that looks like on rocks and people like, Oh, that's the huge rock. How do you not see it? It's not the rocky hit.

Okay. So yeah. That was the rock that was preventing him from being pulled out to see. Right. Like it held them there.

Okay. While this is going on, the passengers have just been left in the dark and literally and figuratively. And there have been no announcements about the reality of the situation. Although a lot of people clearly are freaking out getting life jackets.

The Coast Guard gets in contact. Another time asking for an update. And this time the Concordia's crew admit that the ship is taking on water. The Coast Guard starts sending boats and helicopters in the direction of Jelio. But they estimate that scatinos unwillingness to admit the severity of the problem.

Cost them about 45 minutes. It's only about 1040, a full hour after the impact that captain scatino declares a general emergency. Most experts and even non-experts who just know a thing or two about ships agree that they just have done immediately after impact.

Yeah. But it just meant sorry, because I am an expert in Italian man. It makes me think of this driver. We had one time when me and Adrian and Janet were in Italy. And he was driving us to Chinkatera, which is like mountainous like for literally like this.

Scary. And he was driving us in this kind of like a minivan while texting. And it was a stick shift. He was loving scaring the shit out of you guys. We were because we were sitting in our own individual room in this thing.

And I was literally staring out the window like I've had a beautiful life. I'm very grateful for everything I've gotten into. Yeah. And when we all got out, Adrian goes, I just made peace with the god I know.

“And I was like, that's what I was doing.”

Because it was that fucking narrow and scary. Yeah. So I think it was hoping you guys would say something.

You're like, please, sir, where he's like, I got it. But I do think that is culturally.

“And that's such a generalization like, what do I know?”

That's one experience. But I do see that, or I can see that. Yeah. Where it's just like, I got it handled.

Is the thing that everybody, no matter what the gender wants to always be able to say.

Yeah. Men, mostly men. That makes sense. Okay. So on the island of Jelio, a hotel manager who's also the island's deputy mayor,

she's like, I fucking need to go there and live there immediately. For real. Neemario, pellegrini. Here's that. There's a ship in trouble in the channel on the other side of the island.

And so he's he hops in his car and starts calling other members of the island's local council. Or like, something's going on. The ship that tried to wave at us is now like up on the rock. Up on us. Yeah.

As he makes his way around the mountain in the middle of the island. And it's, you know, it's night, of course. He gets a clear view into the harbor and sees the massive fucking cruise ship. Like beached on rocks off the shore. So bad.

And he was like, that's not what I was expecting.

I mean, the ships like the size of the island. Yeah.

“Remember when I talked about the Titanic, I think.”

And I said that there were 500 life rafts instead of 50 or whatever. There was just some like a typo. Well, the life rafts will come into play as well. But those in your mind don't let it go. Here we go moving on.

And then the other thing that happened is when they run around purposely supposedly on those rocks, they drop the anchors. So they'll stay there and the crew improperly drop the anchors. Letting out way too much chain. And that's why it started to list one side because they just cut open the side.

And so I did that. So I think that it seems to me totally unprofessional that like the crew didn't know what the fuck was going on either. Because the captain wasn't telling them what to do. And what was happening and everyone kind of panicked and made mistakes. We must communicate.

Yes. That's all there is to it. Trickle down stupidity. Yeah. That's just the thing.

So had they created the right amount of tension? They likely would have been able to keep the boat more upright. And the boat turning on its side is really where the problems arise. And so what happens is that the starboard side of the ship starts tilting down at a severe angle. And very quickly, the lowest level of the life boats are submerged into the water.

Rendering them unusable. And at the same time, all of the life boats on the port side of the ship, the side that's up in the air, are also extremely difficult to launch into the water. Because so the ships on its side now, the boats are here. Normally, the boats would come, the life boats would come out and down.

But if they're on its side, there's no coming out. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And so people are fighting each other to get on these life boats.

I mean, just you see humanity and it's ugly. Yeah. People are pushing and shutting to get each other out of the way, trying to get on a few life boats that are launching and the crew members who are launching the life boats seem to be doing so without any guidance from the chain of command. People are just kind of doing their own thing.

Yeah.

Also, because this had been the first night of the voyage, the passengers had not yet had their mandatory safety training.

Because I guess the next day they're like, everyone has to sit down and fucking watch this video. It's like when you're on a plane and they do the video. Yeah. And nobody pays attention to it. Right.

Right. Yeah. They hadn't done that yet. So there's a reason they do it first. Right.

I thought you were going to say no one had sat down and eaten dinner. And that was just like that. So everyone was hungry. Everyone's in a bad mood. They're a hangry.

So it's mayhem. This is actually the like orderly better stage of the evacuation because the concordia is so close to the port that the lifeboats are able to shuttle people back and forth. Like it is very close. People start jumping into the water and swimming to the island.

Do they make it? A lot of people make it. A lot of it's like there was this story of like a 70 something you're all woman who used to be a swimmer who made it. And it made me go like, you got to get your ass and fucking shape. Yeah.

“If I jumped out of a fucking out of this right now and swam, would I make it?”

I don't think so. I feel young. Yes. I should be able to make it. So it's kind of as like invigorated to me to be like, take care of yourself.

To be an ocean swimmer. I would love it if you're just driving two hours every day so you can just swim under the Santa Monica pier. Yeah. I think I have like the gear and everything.

Punching sharks. That's just as best as in the water. Yeah. So people are making it. And also they have life jackets too, which is very helpful.

But even still the water is it's January. The water is fucking freezing. It's like a 40 minutes tops that you have available in the water before High Pythromia sets in. Yeah. So it's not a great option.

And if you're jumping from one of the higher levels, number 17 stories high. Like you can't think was huge. Right. You can't jump off in swim unless you're close to the water. It close to the island.

I mean swimmer and all these things. And the idea that people are just making independent decisions for themselves is a real sign of the chaos.

Like most people be like, I'm going to wait and see what the captain says because they're obviously going to tell us what to do. And I don't want to be dramatic and jump into the water.

We never women never want to be dramatic and overreact.

But like, let's just like get your blade hands regularly. I'm like, you know, I am a strong backstroke swimmer. Oh yeah. So that just just jump in back or just be fine. Grab walk out of there.

So the water is about 51 degrees Fahrenheit.

“And so hypothermia, that's how some of the people die.”

And in fact, the rescuers do pull an unconscious French man in his 60s from the water. And he becomes the first recorded person to be killed in the Costa Concordia disaster when they pull him out of the water. That's really horrible because the idea of this where especially the way it looked on the news. Right. Which is like, oh look, like someone just made a dumb mistake and like want want.

It looked like the boat got a flat tire. The idea that people died because he found mistake is horrible. And he had given his wife his life jacket because she couldn't swim. And so she made it. And he was like, she was like, are you with me?

And he's like, you're good. Keep going. And then I know. Like the stories of the fucking people who died are just like heartbreaking, obviously. Okay.

So the Coast Guard supervisor in charge of the rescue operation is a man named Gregorio de Falco. And he is fucking hot. He's George Clooney, Italian George Clooney. Is George Clooney Italian? He lived in Italy.

I want to argue George Clooney's Irish. Okay. You can have that. Maybe he's have have. You can have.

Okay.

“So this guy, Gregorio de Falco can't get in touch with anyone in the ship's bridge.”

During an emergency, this is where you would expect to find the captain. And if you remember the Titanic, I do. That's where the captain stays until the very end. You go down with your ship, right? Like, I don't even know anything about ships, Greg.

And I know you stay on as the captain. You're there until the bitter end. But De Falco is only getting radio silence.

So finally at about 12.40 a.m., he gets a hold of Skatino by calling the captain's cell phone.

So he's down the bridge. He finally calls the cell phone. And this guy is a Coast Guard supervisor. So like, you got to be badass. Like, you've got to be.

Yeah. It's like being in the, what's that? Maybe seals? Yeah. I feel like you must be.

Yes. Yes. It's navyish, but there's some about the Coast Guard that's very like where the guys go in when the emergency kicks off. Right.

We're not going in a war. We're going in a fucking help people. Yes. Right. The war against bad swimming.

Right. And we're telling. The war against bad swimming. And the Falco is absolutely stunned when he gets a hold of Skatino that he is on a lifeboat. Already.

Oh, that's right. This guy got ripped apart. He did. We'll get into it. Okay.

Their conversation, which is recorded, becomes infamous. And I was like, we should play it. And like, hear the whole thing. And like, it's an Italian. I forgot some Italian.

What a dream.

So basically, the Falco just like tears.

Skatino apart. And yes. Skatino is just like, oh, but, you know, like making excuses. He says he tripped and fell onto the lifeboat. And that's why he's on it.

But there's like the clear video of him getting onto it. It's not pretty. It's a really heated himself. No favors. Like, he made a big fucking mistake.

And he could have not write it at it. But like, owned it and taken care of business. And done what was right. It sounds like it was a big shameful event for Italians who are like, That's not what we do.

This is who we are. Right. And so they wanted to punish him for that. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. And the way is the cultural attache to Italy for America.

They are very things are done a certain way. They're very traditional. They're very, you do not have cappuccino afternoon. Right. Right.

There are rules and regulations to just being part of that kind of like casual culture. In my opinion, that's all opinion. But so that makes perfect sense that they're like, You have shame this great nation. Totally.

Like you made a mistake. And then you fucking double down. Yeah. And you hear it and they'll do close captioning for it. Yeah.

And like, you can understand.

“But he's just basically like says fuck, what the fuck are you doing at him?”

And like he's just like, what, you know, The sky to Falco is very aware of like how bad this is. And he's not on the ship. All that on top of he's gone. Right.

So shortly after this conversation, he doesn't get off the ship. Like to Falco orders him to do it because shortly after the call, he's seen on land in the Jelio Harbor, Among the thousands of stranded passengers who have escaped the ship. So people are flooding off and they see the captain on land

when there's like hundreds of people still on the ship. The towns chief of police goes to speak with him. And all Tsukino will say is quote, Those cliffs weren't there. They were not on the maps and quote.

He's immediately blaming, you know, the cliffs. That sounds boozy to me.

And so the police chief says quote,

“I saw someone who still hadn't realized what happened.”

Someone who most likely didn't want to accept the reality of things. And quote, Golden Nile. Yeah. By this point, they're on 1am.

Every working lifeboat has been launched. And some are circling back and getting more. But around 1,000 people are still on the ship, which is now essentially lying on its starboard side. So if you're still trapped in the ship,

which many people are, the walls are now the floor. And ceiling. You know what I mean? And the floors are now the walls.

And like any long hallway is now like a well. Because everything is fucking. It's one big Lionel Richie video. And the worst way possible. The people left in the ship are congregated in several air

different areas because they still don't know what to do. No one has told them go to this place to get rescued. Yeah, right? Because the guy's gone. Who's supposed to fucking tell us.

And it's still nighttime. Emergency lights. Like it's not. Yeah. It's one of the morning.

Some people are severely injured because of all these things happening. And mostly just trying to stay upright on the ship. That's flip on its side. And actually a crew member finds a long rope ladder. And it's dangled along the port side of the ship.

Now facing up with the sky.

They basically have to scale down the side of the ship into the water.

To get like the rope to a boat. Yeah. Like to get rest. Yeah. So the ship's on its side.

And you can see there's like a night vision from the health. Because it was like helicopter's in Chicago. You can see like just a line of like ants. It looks like trailing down the side of this enormous ship. And there's children.

You know, and elderly people. I mean. And also it's like so it's a rope ladder.

“But you have to have the physical strength.”

Exactly. Can you, could you do it right now? I think I could do that. I could do that. But not this one portion of the triathlon.

Couldn't do both. No. But also I would be afraid of halfway down when I'm like really at the Danckly as part. My arms are like we're not doing this anymore.

You know what I mean? Yeah.

It's not like I do adrenaline.

She's a real friend. Good one. You know? Let's get her going more often. Get that cortisone and adrenaline going.

Every morning. It's all we can do. People have to drop into the rescue boats. Mario Pelligrini, the Gileo deputy mayor. And a crew member named Simone Kanessa.

Coordinate this rope ladder rescue. And eventually go into the hallways to help get more people out. So even though captains doing absolutely nothing. There are people on board that work there. And don't work there that are being heroes.

Amazing. Yeah. They find an aluminum ladder. And then they use that to get people up and out of the hallways. To the balcony so that they can go out of the ship as well on the rope ladder and climb down.

But some people are still trapped in the less accessible areas, awaiting rescuers. And the hotel director that I told you about. He's like the captain of the hotel. Part of the adventure.

Name. Mineriko Jipadroni goes back into the ship's hallway to try to get them to try to save more people. And comfort them until rescuers come. Like he's not abandoning his ship. Yeah.

Hotel. Right. But the whole night everyone has been saying that they saw his face. He was helping people get off the ship. He was not helping gets navigate the chaos and trying to get them to safety.

He was in it. But on his way through the sideways corridor. He's knocking on doors which are now the floor. Trying to find people who may still be trapped. And then he accidentally steps on one of those doors.

It opens up under him. And he falls through the door into the room. Oh. Below him. Inside.

He hits a wall splashes into the water. And he realizes he's trapped in the ship's sideways dining room. And he's broken his leg in the fall. And it's spilling with water with freezing fucking water. Actively.

Yeah. The water's rising slowly. He hoist himself onto a top of a metal table and waits to be rescued. With a broken leg. Broken leg.

All over the ship people are clamoring out alongside of the boat. Which is now on the top. Trying to get down to the rescuers. Helicopters are circling and pointing rescuers to where they can see people. I guess it must be the weirdest thing to be trying to escape a boat.

A ship. And there are people coming on to it from the island.

“At that point I'd be like, okay, then I think we're going to make it.”

Are people repelling down from a helicopter? No. They're like writing the life boats back to the ship and climbing a board to the looks for survivors. Then it does come down to fitness. It does.

As the sun rises, about 100 people are still unaccounted for. And rescuers are prowling this enormous boat. They're like breaking, you know, windows and cabins to see if anyone's in there and try to get people out. And they're looking for additional survivors. They find one couple still in their cabin.

They had slept with the initial crash and then become trapped. Which sounds like this. Like for sure. As somebody what's going on? You know that evening nap.

We like to take on a vacation. We'll be a dinner later. But when you wake up, it's 930 and you're like, is it 930 in the morning? Right. And everything feels bad.

Down in the dining room, Man Rico, the hotel captain director who would fall in. He can hear the rescuers, but he's so far down that he can't get their attention.

Wow.

“Which happened in another one of your stories in the hometown recently.”

The jet ski. The dad's trapped at sea. Oh, yeah. So gross. And then he from a bottle that goes floating by of cognac. Which thank God.

Thank you. And then he finds two pots to bang together to try to get the attention. Nice. And he starts to leave he's going to die in that flooded dining room.

Finally, he sees bubbles around him and fucking rescue divers surface from underneath.

Holy shit. It's been hours. Every Vaderechi they say. No, no, no, no, no. Bun set.

Bonus set. Leon is nodding. Great. He saved. He's pulled out of the water and airlifted to a hospital.

And he is the last survivor pulled off of the boat. The captain of the hotel. Yeah. Wow. In all 32 people die in the disaster.

That's so many.

“And the youngest victim of five-year-old dies in her father's arms.”

No. I know. In a fall that had been similar to Menarecos, Diana and Williams are a lotty.

And they had been trying to reach lifeboats on the starboard side of the boat when they fell into a flooded area and drown.

Which is like, so sad. And the documentary, the divers talk about finding the daughter in the arms of the father. And just how like you just can't move past that. No, you know. The event becomes an international outrage.

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And tow it away without causing an environmental catastrophe by spilling all the fuel on board. Yeah. So it just sits there.

“I mean, what a sight for those people on the island, right?”

Yeah. And island in an area that's 100% tourist. Right. Like it's all for and about the tourism. Right.

And the money you make the tourism. And so quiet otherwise. It's finally refloaded. And brought to Genoa in September of 2013. It's just like weird moment.

The whole effort cost $799 million to get it.

The fuck out of there twice as much as the ship had cost to build in the first place. Jesus. It's Latino is ultimately charged with manslaughter, causing a shipwreck. And abandoning the scene of an accident. And his case goes to trial in 2015.

He's found guilty and is currently serving a 16 year sentence. Wow. He's the only person to serve a prison sentence for this. Man, Rico, the hotel director who had tried all night to save people before falling into a flooded dining room is among four other costate employees who are also charged for not doing enough to prevent the disaster.

It doesn't sit well. No. Right. He takes a plea bargain and does not serve time. And he says, well, my conscience is clear.

And he's in the documentary. And he's like, I did everything I could. There were other, there are survivors, passengers. They were like, he was the person who did saved me. Yeah.

What's doing something. Exactly. Some day he's going to be redeemed. It feels like, but until then, that is the story of the costa concordia disaster. Wow.

Truly, I always, I remember watching that on the news.

I remember seeing it and having a be a thing that just kept coming back. Because it was just a ship sitting there and all the way. What a sight. Yeah.

“But for one second, can we just talk about the fact that that captain got off the ship?”

Uh, refused to get back on. Women and children last. And then stood around in the harbor watching. Yeah. Like, to me, that's not telling me that that's a person that was got off and was going to run away.

But he also grabbed some, that his bag, like stuff. You know, like, which you're just not supposed to do when you're a banding ship, you know? Yeah. And it's not supposed to come into your vocabulary when you're the captain. Right.

Wow. What a story. Yeah. That was good. Thank you.

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“Actually, today I'm going to tell you, because it is just quick reminder, still women's history month.”

I'm going to celebrate it by telling you about this amazing woman who built an empire from almost nothing.

In an era when both her race and her gender made her success, especially to the level that she got to a near impossibility. But through sheer grit, community building, and an idea for a hair product that came to her in a dream. She turned a door to door beauty company into a national powerhouse. Yeah. This is the story of the trailblazing black business woman who became one of America's first self-made female millionaires.

Madam CJ Walker. Oh, my God. I don't know this. You haven't heard of her? I don't think so.

Okay. The main source for this story is the research and the writing of a lily of bundles who is Madam CJ Walker's great-great-granddaughter. Wow. So she basically wrote her family story.

And the rest of the sources are in our show notes. So Madam CJ Walker's birth name is Sarah Breedlove. So that's how she starts this story. And it does start in December of 1867, two years after the end of the civil war. Sarah Breedlove is born on the same cotton plantation in Delta, Louisiana, that her parents Owen

and Minerva have been enslaved on from a few years earlier. So this is early post-to-mancipation, and although Owen and Minerva technically are free, they work this exact same fields now as share crop. And so if you're not familiar with the reality of share cropping, it was a physically brutal and deeply exploitative system explicitly designed to keep black families trapped in debt

and financially dependent on their white landlords. So they could make a little bit of money, but it was not like the normal free trade being a regular farmer. So Sarah is one of six children. And when she is just seven years old, both of her parents die. Many historians believe it's from an illness like yellow fever or cholera.

But officially their causes of death are unclear, probably unregistered. So the now orphan Sarah moves in with her older sister, Lovina. But then Lovina marries an abusive man. And Sarah becomes desperate to get away from him and get out of that home. So when she's just 14 years old, she marries a share cropper named Moses McWilliams.

And when she's 17, she gives birth to their first child. Their daughter named Lelia, who will later go by Elelia, which is the family name

“that Elelia bundles, I think, inherited.”

But then two years after that, Moses, her husband Moses dies. So now it just 21 years old Sarah is left to support herself and her daughter all alone. So they move to St. Louis, Missouri, where four of Sarah's brothers live, all of them working as barbers. She builds real community in St. Louis. She becomes deeply involved at her local African Methodist Episcopal Church.

And of course, she has to work hard to make ends meet between church functions. Sarah works exhausting shifts as a laundryist that regularly stretch laid into the night. But she still only takes home around $2 a week. And that would be how much in today's money. $25. 75 dollars.

$75. Okay. Still not great.

No, she has stretched thin in every way, but she always looks really nice and put together because

she believes that as a laundryist, if she looks amazing, where's beautiful tailored clothes, that will attract more clients.

Yeah. The way she looks good. Beyond her work, she sees how her outward appearance affects the way people treat her as a black woman. So it's that idea where you can't be casual and you can't be comfortable.

“You have to be proving yourself right now.”

But while Sarah can always ensure that her clothes are crisp and clean,

what she can't always control is her hair. So now she's in her 30. She's been struggling with scalp irritation and hair loss for years. And she's consulted her barber brothers and tried about every product on the market. Most manufactured by white-run companies, nothing is really helping.

Sarah's not alone at this time. As her daughter, Allelia bundles will later note, quote, during the early 1900s, when most Americans lacked indoor plumbing and electricity, bathing was a luxury. As a result, Sarah and many other women were going bald because they washed their hair so and frequently, leaving it vulnerable to environmental hazards such as pollution, bacteria, and life.

So that's that thing where my grandmother is similar version, but it's like she would get her hair done at this long. And then who sat once a week? Once a week at the most. So it'd be like you had to preserve this totally.

Hair do. And then for black women it's even more so it's like you can't get someone to get it done correctly. Right. Not burn your scalp off. Right.

Like all those things, products are in there. Yeah. So you're just trying to preserve what you have most of the time. Then Sarah meets someone new. And it's her second husband.

Her name's John Davis, their relationship is described as quote troubled and they also end up divorcing. So Sarah finds herself single again. She's 35 with a child. And she is totally unsure as to what her future will hold. She'll later say quote,

I was at my tubs one morning with a heavy wash before me. As I bent over the washboard and looked at my arms buried in soap suds, I said to myself,

“what are you going to do when you grow old and your back gets stiff?”

Who's going to take care of your little girl?

So Sarah has been an amazing mother to her child.

By 1905, Amelia has graduated high school. She now goes to Knoxville College in Tennessee. And once that happens, Sarah realizes her daughter is an independent young woman and college student.

So she now decides to go to Denver. So she can be closer to a family member who's going through tough times. But this point, when she arrives in Denver, she has a dollar 52 her name. Oh my God.

And that's how much in today's money. Oh, 90. 55. Fuck. Yeah.

Yeah. Now you're right. That makes more sense. Still a frightening low number to travel across the country with. By the end of the next year in 1906, Sarah will have married again.

This time her new husband is Charles Joseph Walker. And he's an ad sales for a black newspaper. They actually met back in St. Louis and started falling in love back there. So the relationship starts back there. Then she has to move to Colorado.

And when she does that, she takes on domestic work like cooking and white households. And on the side, she continues her work as a sales rep for a beauty company that she also had started back in St. Louis. The company is owned by a businesswoman named Annie Malone. Annie Malone is also black.

And she's one of the first women in America to build a national cosmetics empire.

Her company is called Poro. And it sells various beauty and hair care products based on what she calls, quote, the Poro system. It's geared at treating black women's scalps and strengthening their hair, which is something, of course, Sarah is very interested in. Annie Malone has amassed a huge sales network that employs thousands of girls and women across the US, including Sarah at a time when black women's job options were basically limited to domestic labor and sharecropping. Wow.

So it's almost like these are products we need desperately. Yeah.

“And all you have to do is get your little kitten gut into the world and you can sell them.”

So brilliant. Malone has also launched a successful cosmetic school in St. Louis that doubles as a meeting place for black organizations, who have been barred from meeting at other public venues. So you can kind of see the career of Annie Malone really is starting to provide a blueprint for Sarah and her story and how it turns out. Because Sarah uses Poro products and she sells Poro products.

But she still seeks advice from pharmacists and other people familiar with the medicinal ingredients of effective hair products. And so she starts tinkering with her own hair care formulas using herself as a guinea pig. She develops three products that she thinks are particularly effective. Her vegetable shampoo, which has ingredients like honey, tea, tree oil and sage in it. Right, meant to help with dandruff and scalp irritation.

I'm assuming it's pronounced Glossine, which is a hair oil that's intended for both men and women to help soften hair and make it more shiny.

“Then there's a famous product called Wonderful Hair Grower.”

The name basically says it all and it has ingredients like beeswax petroleum jelly and coconut oil.

Sarah claims that her hair grower formula came to her from the divine. She says, quote, "God answered my prayer for one night I had a dream. And in that dream a big black man appeared to me and told me what to mix up from my hair. Some of the remedy was grown in Africa but I sent for it, mixed it, put it on my scalp. And then a few weeks my hair was coming in faster than it had ever fallen out."

Wow. I tried it on my friends. It helped them. I made up my mind. I would begin to sell it and quote.

Wow. So this is how she does it. Here's the recipe. Wow. Exactly.

So keeping in mind that, of course, starting a business is a herkulean task for black Americans in this era. PBS points out, quote, along the indelible color line that court cases like Plessy versus Ferguson drew. Black people in the turn of the century America were excluded from most trade unions. And denied bank capital resulting in trap lives as sharecroppers or menial low wage earners. Right.

But because the white establishment doesn't see black beauty brands as competition with white owned businesses. Entrepreneurs like Sarah and Annie Malone, they have more opportunity because they're going into an area that those people don't care about. Or even understand. Yeah. Also, these products have fairly low startup costs.

So Sarah Breedlove leaves the poorer company. She invests in her own ingredients, her own jars. And then she starts selling her own formulas herself door to door. Wow. And it's around this time that she takes her husband's last name.

“So she starts going by Madam CJ Walker and that's what she names her new business.”

And it not only gives her this era of French sophistication.

It's also an active resistance because in this era white Americans tend to dismissively refer to black women either by dominatives like anti or Sally or just by their first name.

What women might be called miss or miss is so basically Sarah putting Madam CJ Walker into her name demands respect. Yeah. Shricken the system. Yeah, right. So I'll be calling her Madam CJ Walker from here on out.

Okay. So taking a page from Annie Malone's poorer company, Madam CJ Walker rolls out an entire hair care system for black women. In addition to those first three products that I already told you about, her line also includes locians, pomades and coms. And it operates on the ethos. The black women should feel pride in themselves and in their appearances.

The tins all feature an image of Madam CJ Walker herself and her dark skin tone is a strong contrast to every other beauty product on the market that uses white or white passing women on their labels. So he has the original can. Oh wow. So she's like, Madam CJ Walker, do you do need this for your hair? Here's my hair.

Yeah. Here's a gorgeous my faces. Yeah.

“Like how powerful would that be to just one day find that at the store?”

Yeah. Yeah. That's incredible. Yeah. So good.

So before long, the Madam CJ Walker brand is earning around $10 a week, which is worth around. Do you want to do it? I can't remember really. The. 70.

360 dollars. So she's making. Wow. About 400 bucks a week into this money.

And more cash always seems to be coming in.

So she hits the road. She spends more than a year and a half traveling. Across the country to black communities, particularly in the south. And she's demonstrating her products in churches and at community gatherings. And after knocking on countless doors back home, she uses her husband's expertise in advertising.

And she begins posting ads in black newspapers. Oh, so smart. Right. It said that her consistent ad dollars became the life blood of some of these black publications over the years. Wow.

So it's so smart. It's bring it to your community. Yeah. Keep the money on your community. Like, this is their product.

Yeah. And then the white man isn't watching you can make some. Yeah. And nice living for yourself. Yeah.

Amazing. By 1908, Madam CJ Walker has become so successful. She opens her own cosmetic school. She names it Liliah College after her daughter. And her daughter will go on to manage that school.

And when she grows up, Madam CJ Walker trains her beauty school students to become, quote, hair culture lists. So that they can share. God, she would love TikTok today. She would fucking destroy on TikTok today.

So that they can share her hair care methods throughout the country.

It's one step further in that of like, you're not just sales people. Yeah. Your hair culture lists. Yeah.

“You're going to help them get their hair back.”

With it in a few years of that, Madam Walker opens her own factory. Complete with a second cosmetic school and a beauty salon inside. Yeah. So this is going.

It's a time of incredible growth of for Madam CJ Walker and her business.

Sadly not for her personal life. She ends up divorcing her third husband. Charles Joseph Walker over quote, business differences. What she does is she keeps his last name, though. She's not changing that for this.

Even though she's become an overwhelming success in business in just a couple years, Madam CJ Walker is not getting the recognition she deserves from the male-dominated black business establishment. This includes famed educator and advocate Booker T. Washington, who's the head of what's known then as the National Negro Business League. It's now been renamed the National Business League.

But at the time, it connected black entrepreneurs across the country, aiming to support them and black businesses.

“So the people of Madam CJ Walker's era have a stigma against black beauty brands.”

They're largely run by women. Right. The stigma is that it puts undue focus on appearance at a time when real bodily violence is regularly being waged on black Americans. Also, the criticism is that they're selling products that push white beauty standards.

But when this accusation comes up, Madam CJ Walker consistently pushes back on this idea that her products are somehow helping black women assimilate into the white status quo. She was once quoted as saying, "Let me correct the erroneous impression held by some that I claim to straighten hair.

I deplore such an impression because I've always held myself out as a hair-culturalist.

I grow hair." What else is straight in here? Yeah, she grows it. And, quote, "As the official website for the Madam CJ Walker estate notes, there's a persistent falsehood that she invented straightening homes and chemical perms." She did not.

The undeniable fact is that by 1912, Madam CJ Walker is employing around 1600 salespeople and generating about $4,000 a month, which is more than $130,000 a month in today's money. She is a business powerhouse who's always working to expand her operation, even spending time in central American and Caribbean nations. We were just there in a Caribbean nation.

And yet none of that even gets her a mention at the 1912 National Business League convention. And you better believe she is there in the audience. And she's so frustrated, she stands up and addresses Booker T. Washington directly in front of everyone. Same quote, "Surely you are not going to shut the door in my face.

I'm a woman who started a business seven years ago with only a $1.50.

I went into a business that is despised, that is criticized, and talked about by everybody, the business of growing hair. I've been trying to get before you business people to tell you what I'm doing. I'm a woman who came from the cotton fields of the south, from there I was promoted to the wash tub. Then I was promoted to the cook kitchen.

And from there I promoted myself into the business of manufacturing hair goods and preparations.

“My object in life is not simply to make money for myself or to spend it on myself.”

I love to use a part of what I make in trying to help others. In 1913, Madam CJ Walker donates $1,000, which is more than $30,000 in today's money, to help fund the building of a black YMCA in Indianapolis. It's so much money, it grabs national newspaper headlines. And just for perspective, the average black families income around this time is around $12 a week.

Jesus, and she donates a thousand. She, yeah, wow. Yeah. So she's undeniable. Yeah.

And have frustrating for her. That like, oh. Yeah, they just, well, it's like, oh, you do that thing. Right. Which is what culture does to women.

Yeah. You do something you're successful. Well, that's immoral. Right. You shouldn't do that.

Right. That's bad. Vocal fry. Yeah. We've all, right.

You land it in the winter circle and they figure out all the ways to push you out. Yeah. You don't know what I'm talking about. You have no experience like this. What do you mean?

What in the world could you mean? But the good news is Booker T. Washington did take her seriously. And so he invites her to the next year's 1913 National Business League convention. And he invites her to address attendees who come. And he also comes to Indianapolis for the YMCA's dedication ceremony.

Wow. It's reported that Madam Walker sends her chauffeur to pick him up from the train station.

And she has him stay at her home as a guest. Amazing.

“So she's going to show him exactly how successful she is.”

Little baller. Right. Love this woman. Yeah. Like where she got this spirit.

Yeah. And it, like, clearly it's like her parents were people. Like we'll do it ourselves. Yeah. We'll do it.

We'll go and do it then. Incredible. In her brothers. For Barbara. Yeah.

Like cuts by. Yeah. So by 1916, when she's around 49 years old, Madam C.J. Walker has grown a national network of around 40,000 sales people. Like God. She begins organizing them into regional chapters who meet annually at their own conventions.

The inaugural Madam C.J. Walker Hair Culturalists Union of America Convention is held in 1917. Oh my God. So in 1912, they tried to push her out. And within four years, she's got her own fucking convention is how she does it. Wow.

And it's one of the first national business women conferences in American history.

She's a separate from skin color. Madam C.J. Walker uses that meaning to celebrate and reward her employees for their hard work. It's said that she is widely considered to be a wonderful boss. Wow. But this beauty convention is also expressly political.

Now, the summer of 1917 is remembered as a particularly violent period with many incidents of horrific racist brutality at the hands of white mobs. It's only four years later that the burning of Black Wall Street happened, which we talk about on this show, which is horrible example of one of those moments. Okay. So at the 1917 convention, Madam C.J. Walker tells her employees quote, "This is the greatest country under the sun, but we must not let our love of our country, our patriotic loyalty,

cause us to abate one wit in our protest against wrong and injustice." That same summer, Madam C.J. Walker is among the organizers of a march down New York City's fifth avenue, protesting racial violence. Wow. Many of her employees participate. Meanwhile, her net worth is ballooning and etching her into history as one of the very first self-made female millionaires ever.

Holy fucking shit. How do we not know about this? I don't know. Why isn't that name household name? Wow.

Madam C.J. Walker buys beautiful homes in several cities. She begins building an impressive 35 room, three story mentioned in Irvington on Hudson, New York. Oh, 20 miles north of the city in Westchester County. Oh, my God. And this is the area where several white male guilty-date tycoons have built the states.

Yeah. And it's said that Madam Walker wants to live here specifically to symbol- God, she's the prime and greatest. She's the greatest guy I figured out. Specifically to symbolize everything that a black woman can accomplish.

Fuck yeah. God. I fucking love it. She's like the original version of representation matters. Right.

Put your face on the can. Yeah. Put your fucking house next to the white tycoon. Stand up at the convention that won't acknowledge you and tell them why they're fucking will and must acknowledge you.

“I'll be here next year and hear the reasons why I think her tea washington.”

Dude. So awesome. Okay.

She even contacts New York's first registered black architect to build that property for amazing.

Just badass. Yeah. As her Westchester mansion is being completed, Madam C.J. Walker spends much of her time in Harlem. And she becomes very passionate about the NAACP's anti-linching work that they have started. She donates the equivalent of $126,000 in today's money to them.

And in 1917, she visits the White House to advocate for federal anti-linching laws. Wow. She's going all the way there. Yeah. This isn't like that might affect my reputation if I get into that business.

Yeah. Less than two years later in 1919, Madam C.J. Walker dies of kidney failure brought on by hypertension. She's 51 years old. Wow. Not long before her death, she updates her will so that two thirds of her future net profits from her company go to charity.

Wow. Her family has plenty. Yeah. That's how you do it. Yeah.

She leaves about $100,000 of her fortune, which is more than 2.5 million today, to causes like funding

schools, civil rights organizations, and black community institutions. After her death, Madam C.J. Walker's beloved daughter, Alelia carries her mother's legacy forward,

“and becomes one of the most important patrons of black artists and thinkers during the Harlem Renaissance.”

Alelia will pass in 1931 when she's in her mid-40s, also of complications caused by hypertension. Decased later, her namesake in Madam C.J. Walker's great-great granddaughter, Alelia Bundles, whose research has been cited extensively in the story, works to preserve her family's history and to tell their complete story.

It's stunning that she became a millionaire.

“But for me, the most lasting legacy is that she empowered people, and that she used her money to make a difference in her community,”

and to show other people their ability to make a difference in their communities." Wow. And that's the story of Madam C.J. Walker. Oh my god, we should do a donation there. Good idea.

Where do you want to do it, too? How about the NAACP? Let's do it. Sound good? Yeah.

I love it. We could only be a tenth of what Madam C.J. Walker was. Really? Which in today's percentage is 10 grand? It's 10 grand and the NAACP.

Oh my god, that's amazing.

Yeah. Great job. Thank you. But hit all the spots. Right?

Yeah, inspiring. And fun. Yeah. And TikToky. And hair.

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She went out there and did it herself. She went out there and did it herself. She went out there and did it herself. She went out there and did it herself. I was also more than tired of studying from my final criminal law exam.

So imagine my joy when I realized Karen and Georgia were suddenly helping me review the McNotton rule. Remember that? Yeah. And y'all, I asked that exam.

You and Guy Brenham are absolutely welcome to take the credit. That alone is a major hooray. But the bigger hooray is this. The episode reminded me of how far I've come since then. In the real talk.

Yes. From behind from the side. Okay. In the eight years since, I've tackled plenty of obstacles. Like taking the bar exam in my bathroom.

And then it says, yes, really, thanks, COVID in your charming at home testing rules that disqualified every other room in my apartment. And yet, here we are in 2025. Two dogs, one husband, one baby, one law degree later. And MFM was the soundtrack to it all.

Hooray for women in male-dominated fields for working moms and for Guy Brenham's criminal law expertise. Stay sexy and don't forget how far you've come Amanda. Oh my god. Congratulations.

Amanda is a mom, a lawyer, a badass. And it's all because of us. Do you understand the relations in your welcome?

“I think the McNotton rule really came alive when we talked about it.”

That's right. Here's the next one. This says airplane hooray. And it says hi ladies, my hooray is my flight. I fly almost every week for work, so flights typically don't bother me.

On this flight, we had taken off and we were in the air for about an hour when they told us to turn around and make an emergency landing due to the in all caps. Hydraulic system having a break in it. That's right. Very similar to episode 486 take these from me.

That was the time. Take me. Hi, having just listened to this episode started to freak out.

All I could do was think about, oh god. This is going to be just like that MFM episode.

Luckily the amazing pilots landed a safe and sound with just a little more than a

jolt. Thanks for helping me make my commute entertaining. Brad. Oh, Brad. Brad.

Brad, you really did it. Okay. I'm going to read another one. Okay. Because this one's really fun.

This says, you guys, listening to the recent Colin Ferrell hometown made me remember I had something to share. I went across the pond for the first time recently where I got engaged. That's a hooray in itself, but the best part of my trip. Going to a small town in England where we met some people at a pub who were obsessed with

my fiance over his resemblance to Colin Ferrell. We hung out and got drunk with them for hours and not once did they call him by his real name.

For one magical night, I was engaged to a movie star.

So hooray for my super hotty boyfriend soon to be my husband. Love you Ryan, who I wouldn't trade for anyone in the world. Even Colin. And that's from Tess. Tess.

Tess. That's a really sweet honking hooray. It's about love. It's about appreciating Irish people. I mean, English people should be Irish people.

It's not going to bars and meeting new people. All the great things in this world. Yeah. Well, those are honking hooray. That's it.

That's it. Thanks, Hyundai, for getting us this car to drive around. And for sponsoring our honking hooray. Stay sexy. Okay.

And don't get murdered. C'mon. C'mon. Elvis, do you want a cookie? Ah!

This has been an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Molly Smith and our socioproducer is Tessahuse. Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo. This episode was mixed by Lianna Squalachi. Our researchers are Mary McLashin and Ali Elkin.

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