Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 86: Live at the Enmore Theatre

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Hello and welcome to rewind with Karen and Georgia. That's right. It's Wednesday. And that means we are here recapping our old shows with all new commentary, updates, and insights. Today we're looking back on episode 86, which we named lie that the Enmore Theater. That's right.

And we named it that because we are in Sydney, Australia. This was one of the greatest live shows we've ever done. I'm just going to say it. The episode originally came out September 14th, 2017. Alright, let's listen to the intro of episode 86.

What's up Sydney?

We finally got that right.

We finally did it right tonight. Oh, shit guys. What's up? What's been up with you guys lately? How's your weekend?

How's everything going on here? Like, oh, it's so exciting to be here.

“Have you ever had every single one of your triggers?”

Triggered up one time? Cut. I am. I'm going to start this show by saying, this is my favorite murder. True crime podcasts.

That's also a comedy broadcast. It's a difficult and complex combination. Yeah, and they're, they're, they're weed together. And you simply must trust us that we're good people. Yeah.

That's just for the newbies. That's just for the people who are forced here or who saw something in the newspaper. Yeah, they were like, let's roll the dice. Yeah. I love podcasts.

This American life. Love that podcast. Let's go to this one. Oh my God. Mark Marin.

Oh my God. Oh my God. I'll go to a pot live podcast. Let's see what happens. So we wanted to tell you guys what happened last night just to kind of address it.

You know, at this point, the rumors are so insane. It's a little, it's a little bit crazy.

George looked her phone.

“She goes, oh, now they're saying I walked off stage.”

Hold on. What is happening?

I did it and I wanted to never wanted to more my life.

We started the show by talking about plucking chin hairs as you do. I mean, who doesn't do that? Again, comedy, true crime, comedy, live podcast. And then Karen did a great light-hearted murder. That's how I do it.

Such a thing. And then I didn't. I was doing this thing. We're like, I did, I did Jill Marthe night before. Yep.

That's exactly what happened. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, well, this time I'm going to go in a different direction.

But let me just stop you by saying that anyone, again, who it might be new. She did Jill Marthe. And when we did our meet and greet, which is where we get a lot of feedback. And we loved to hear feedback and people tell us what they think.

Every single person was like, I was so scared that you were doing that.

And you did it great. And it's obviously, no, no, no, no, that's okay. But I mean, the one thing we talked about all the time is that we're here to represent and support the victims. As comedy is not around that. Yeah.

I think I, okay, with the way I did. But then I touched a nerve with the next last night. Yeah. There was somebody in the audience who clearly was having, where's out for the weekend. And made a bad entertainment choice.

You know it. To know what I bet happened. Some fucking sweet hardcore murdering. I was like, fuck, I have to work tonight. Uncle Dave.

David, listen. And Julie. Take it. You guys love horror movies. You're really not horror movies.

You guys love comedy. I feel like you might enjoy this thing. And that murderina was wrong. Yeah. Deeply wrong.

Yeah. It really at the end of the day what happened is. And as a person who's done stand up comedy for 100 years. We just got heckled. I mean, that's at the long and there's sort of it.

“There's been, there's been a lot of words used to describe what happened that I think are inaccurate.”

Because it was a guy yelling this is shite. And although it's rude and jarring and upsetting, it's still not like a salt or anything. You know what I mean? Like it's just a person going, fuck this. The only thing was really angry.

Yeah. He was mad. And also he had like the lungs of Pavarotti. He was the loudest person I've ever heard speak. And if you could imagine all these murderingos were like,

like this, you know, in their minds what the fuck. But we were all like, what the fuck? The fuck? Everyone was like, what the fuck for a while. Yeah.

And he, it seemed like it went on for 25 minutes. It was probably 20 seconds. Yeah. And then they just tied to held it out there. And then we had to like sit in it for a little while.

I did start crying. That part is true. Well, it was upsetting because he was yelling at her. And also it was this moment where like it happens all the time it was podcast.

We were talking about something incredibly sensitive. And then one of us fucks up and the other one makes fun of that person. And they interpreted that as us laughing at someone's death. Right.

“Which makes sense logistically, you know what I mean?”

It's like these, these, it's not, we didn't argue it. You know what I mean? Because that's, that was what was happening. But it also was not what was happening in the least. So.

And then Karen, fuck, I just looked at her and I was like, what? And you fucking like a champ took over. And like, so the most eloquent, wonderful thing. And it was so nice. And then so much to me.

Listen, I have to say I'm so fucking happy you're on my team. And I'm so lucky that you have my back. I'm not paying. I'm not paying. Look.

I just can't. I just can't. I tried. The improv Olympic for 20 years. Yeah, I'm just kidding.

No, yeah. And it's just like, you know what, for me, I come from a family of incredibly loud yellers. So it's like, oh my god, thanksgiving again. I was just like, are you done?

Okay. We get your volume anger. Um, I'm not like that. No, that's not her experience. No.

Yeah. So there was also people who were like, don't quit the podcast. Or like, are you, I just fucking quit my job. I have to do this podcast. I've, I've painted myself into a corner.

Seriously.

Um, we're never going to post that episode.

I think we should post your, the part that we,

Anyway. Yeah.

So I should hear that's ever going to happen.

I have context people will be like, that was a weird speech. That was a weird quiet speech about how hard life can be. Yeah. Yeah. That was just a magical, just select moment for us.

And the funniest part in the VIP. Oh my god. There were people who would come up to be like, it's so funny. Because I think I'd be disorder and we're like, oh, shit. It's like worst case scenario for people already like, it was hard for me to come here.

And then the man started yelling. Yeah. They're like, then an angry man. We're like, this is, and it's 99 look around you. It's like, oh, women.

Oh, and then you guys have to. I would kill this and don't tell anyone we told you this. Don't tell them they'll be charged with this.

But they said to us, please don't tell Sydney about what's happening.

“So they were really, I mean, but here's the thing.”

They were very embarrassed every single person that we met in that VIP was so lovely to us. They were so. And then we had people part of what George a story about was a crime family who ambushed cops and were trying to kill cops. And that was part of the sensitivity. And about the fourth people who walked up in the VIP line, but worked for the Victoria Police Department.

And one of the women was like, my boss told me to listen to this podcast for for the health of my job. And we were like, are you just saying like, crime again? And then I was like, then it dinged in my head. I was like, hey, there was a cop here last night and she likes our podcast too. So you know, I think she gave us a caution tape.

Yeah. And a little badge. But then Australia, you guys responded in the fucking coolest way that makes the coolest. So fucking happy. And you all get credit.

You all get credit. Yeah. Not just Melbourne. We feel like the mascots of this podcast with, I feel like I have a tiger head on and a murderer. And then like we're like cartwheeling and then everyone else is the football team.

Exactly. But that doesn't make any sense here. But what you wanted to be at midnight. Yeah. Two murdering knows.

It was Danica and Danica. We have their names. Nadine, Nadine and Danica. They are social workers in Brisbane.

“And they started basically a, oh, yeah campaign.”

The, oh, you're going to have Gloria. And so we had Stephen grab a still of what the total of money raised for this having happened. Can you see that? You guys, this was as of six o'clock today. It's nine thousand dollars that's going in.

Two women's organizations in Brisbane, in Melbourne and in Sydney. All right. Thank you. We're fucking honored to have to be even associated somewhat with that. And we know that it's not, it's, this whole fucking thing is bigger than us.

And we appreciate it. It's really. What? We're going to have a man come out and yell at us every night. And then, and then you're going to have to.

It'll be Ben's. If it's Ben's, I can fucking deal with it. My husband. He's in like a mustache and a bull or hat. He's in his shirt.

He'll be like, oh, better raise money. Give us money.

“I basically can't be saying someone was like, well, I hope they, they thought the money was going to me.”

Because it was like, we loved Georgia. Yeah, we love Georgia. They must just check the website and immediately got knocked off without reading anything. Yeah. So they were like, well, I hope she gives at least some of the money to the hurricane.

Yeah. We're like, lady. That's what, that's what this guy did. He checked the thing really quick. And he was like, okay, I know the story.

I'm going to scream at you. Yeah. A shite. Shite. Um, and he looked.

Sometimes we are completely shite. I was so, um, I was so distracted.

I never plucked the hair.

Oh. Still there. Yeah. I'm going to keep it as a reminder. Forever.

And grow it so long. And speaking of facial hair. Oh, hey, do you want to see your friends, Steven? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Steven.

Friends, Steven. I said, man. Steven. I just want to tell you too, because I feel very emotional tonight. That we appreciate you too a lot.

Thank you. But then you do.

I love you too. We love you, Steven.

“We're always kidding when we're meeting.”

You guys know that, right?

It's fun to yell at Steven. But Steven does a lot of shit for us all the time. All the time. Yeah. Yeah.

You love the yelling? Yes. Perfect. It's the perfect relationship. Yay.

Steven. All right. Bye. Talk about spanks or should we sit down? Oh, Dario should be going to go into a 15-minute spanks chunk.

And now I can't. No, I felt like there was one other there. I was going to say that was about the morning. Oh, I guess it's just no. It's just, if I eat one more Tim Tam, I'm going to fucking explode.

Uh-huh. I see. It is out of control. Yeah. Next time we are going to another country instead of saying on the podcast.

Everyone bring us all your, uh, your chalkies and lollies. Yes. I've since learned is the thing. Six. Six.

Uh, I'm going to say to you, me. That's Kiwi. I'm just going to say, bring us money for the hurricane. Yeah. Because money for the hurricane, straight into Georgia's pocket.

Facts. You can give her a bit. Whatever you want. My favorite is, um, that you guys call them, uh, lollies and chalkies. But then also you call heroin addicts, mackeys.

That's so cute. That's something we found out from our driver. Wally. That was one of my favorite things I've ever heard anyone say. He kept calling us like, "Cut."

And he said, "No, no. It's wouldn't be like people we call them cons." They're like, "Okay." That's true. Yeah.

Like, that clearly fits me so well. That's my favorite word. Love it. Okay. Okay, now.

Yeah. Oh, what kind of are these high challenged chairs? I don't know. Did I- Wow.

Levels. Levels. This is our new podcast levels. Tell me everything. Mommy.

Mommy, may I have some murder? I don't want to get that long. That's a little crazy.

“Should I just tell briefly the story of when I broke the chair?”

Yeah, because it's so similar, but I wasn't going to bring it up because, like, that's not cool to your friend. Like, when I told my mom and public, she needed to shave her nose hairs. That's not cool. It's not cool. And it's rude.

Um, now I can't remember if it was the first or second night.

Oh, there was the first night. We've been on the road now for, I think, 40 days. Not a bit. And now I'm sinking and I'm not even touching it. Yeah, I think we've broken the chairs.

Sorry. [ Laughter ] There. Yeah. Here, I'll just sit up.

We're a regular, Larry Moe is currently over here. We love physical comedy. It's our new thing. Yeah. We told you guys at the top comedy.

Comedy. All right. The first night we got here at George and I are doing our makeup in the mirror. As we do, just piling it on for hours before the show starts. And, um, uh, I mean, my perspective, the room started to slant to the right.

[ Laughter ] I didn't know why.

I thought maybe it was jet lag or a seizure or I was finally going to die.

And, right as I turned to George and say, like, "Hey, is the room slanting to the right to you, too?" Um, the chair that I was sitting in just bent, like, these legs bent under. [ Laughter ] And I, in fucking straight-up slow motion fell to the ground in the chair. [ Laughter ]

To the point where, when I landed, I was stuck in it against the wall like I had been, like, I was being eaten by a giant clown. [ Laughter ] Uh, yeah, and then I went after her. I went after to save her, but I'm a human.

I was fucking cracking out the whole time. Because who doesn't laugh when someone falls, but you're still in the presence of you still trying to help. [ Laughter ] She's underlining.

Um, I'll say this is what the help looked like. It looked like this. [ Laughter ]

“You know what I think I did? I went to hug you.”

Because I could tell you weren't hurt. So it's just going to be like, "Oh, God." Like, nobody wants a chair to break. But then I noticed that the chair had, like, literally been, like, like, masking taped together?

Yeah, that's the story we're going with. [ Laughter ] masking taped chair. [ Laughter ] Yeah.

Uh, so I've been afraid of chairs ever since.

We've gone through a lot of shit. If I look like I've been crying, it's because I have allergies. Yeah, I've been crying. Um, so this is the portion where we talk about murder. Yes.

So if anyone only likes comedy, can, there is a door. Uh, please don't yell at me. I don't mean that. Please don't yell at me. They're like, "We had nothing to fucking do with it.

How dare you." [ Laughter ]

I go first tonight, right?

There's the door. I didn't mean it like that. [ Laughter ]

“Can I tell you the amount about your earrings that someone gave me?”

Please. They say, "When's his CK?" And the other ones has FU. And if you put those two together, the other way, it says fuck. It's really funny because there's that.

And then someone also gave me a little enamel pan that's a heart with an arrow through it that says fuck off. It's like they know you. It's just, they know me so well. It's so, it's, I want all my jewelry to be rude

to everyone for no reason. [ Laughter ] Ah, so great. Oh my God, we're back. I'm sweating, thinking about this.

It fucked me up for a long time. I'm not gonna lie. Like, even into this past-this recent tour. It's always on my mind. Oh, yeah.

When I go on stage, you know? I mean, that experience, you know, stuff that's happened online, like the exposure level and the vulnerability level, especially when we perform live,

“because I don't think people understand it.”

Because it is, we've seen some real shit. And on that, at that show, especially, it just was like, we didn't understand what was happening. And it just kept going. And so then people, it was like the other people,

the audience were upset. The guy that was heckling was upset. It was just this weird kind of combination of things. And it was very unexpected, because we had been on this crazy...

It was our bubble. It totally burst our bubble. Yeah. I don't want to say it like it was all negative, because the Melbourne murdering us,

it's amazing work after that. And donated a bunch of money. It was very sweet. It was like, there was a whole thing happened on social media, because people heard what happened.

And then people were like, "What we want to know and we want to hear." And it's like, it's fine. It's fine. We just had to be like the parents of it all.

We're like, it's fine and we're fine and don't worry. Yeah. But then they were like, not in our city kind of a thing. And I respect that completely.

And I'm like, we're not never going to go back to Melbourne

if we go into Oregon. So it's not like... No, it was just a kind of... It was a person who didn't know where they were at a show going, what the fuck am I watching?

But they just yelled it and felt like they had the right to yell it. And that was, you know. But you experience something like that that's a real low. And then this show was basically everybody in Australia that cared about our podcast being like,

"We are going to make it up to you with good times." And it was hilarious how fun that show was. It really was. So many memories. Oh yeah, we can say it was Denise and Nadine

who started, oh yeah, campaign against the heckler and raised $9,000 for women's organizations and Brisbane, Melbourne and Sydney. So fucking cool. Just like legendary.

“That's what this community has been doing stuff like that.”

Like representing us this whole time wasn't all right. Yeah. It's like, do you think we have a larger contingency of listeners than other podcasts or comedy live shows that are epileptic? Because we had so many people.

Listen, as an apple, I'm going to say shut the fuck. No, I'm just saying. No, it's just, if you tour enough, that shit happens. I mean like any comic can tell you. Yeah.

The medical emergencies. Like at the Irvine improv, I was there one night when something really medical emergency is happened in the audience. And it was such a big club that I didn't realize it was happening until they were taking the person out.

It's such a, it's just a weird thing. It does happen. Oh, epileptic murdering us tonight. We support you. Fainters and barfers get up here.

This is your podcast. We love you. All right. Should we get into it? Let's do it.

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So, right back on. They love it. They want it. They love it. I found an old one, so that nobody here remembers it happening, or is directly related.

To the people it happened to. You don't know. I don't know. Anything could happen.

We're in a foreign country.

Anything could happen. It's true. It's true. Also, these chairs are going down. I can tell.

Are we on the same? Okay. I think we are. Yeah. This is starting to feel like a Charlie Rose situation.

Isn't it? Yeah. All right. Okay. Yeah.

This is, you know what I keep doing is I keep writing the name of the story in as the doc name. And I forget to put it on the top of my paper. So then I'm like, I guess this is the story of, um, anti, anti-tholly. Yeah, anti-tholly, your poisoner. Oh, I fucking gave away the beginning.

All right. Carolyn Girls, born in 1888.

“Should I pretend that I don't know it's a poisoner?”

Yes. Okay. Because you don't know. I mean, she could have been lying the whole time. Yeah.

Carolyn Girls, born in 1888. So nobody is, was her BFF as a kid here. Um, you don't know. Ball main. Ball main.

Ball main. Ball main. You mean exactly how it's spelled? I'm trying to get creative in it. Good.

All right. Because when it's spelled and it looks like you know how to pronounce it, then you say it in everyone's like, it's bomb die or whatever the fucking beach is called. Stupid. Just because it's internationally known and insanely famous.

And so gorgeous when we flew in on that plane this morning. I was like, oh, it's like wrong vacation. No, it's really a lot of homework. Okay. April 1908 at 18.

She married Richard William Girls, hence her last name. He's a laborer. They have five sons and a daughter. And then in, uh, so she's a bunch of kids. In 1948, Carolyn inherited and moved into her father's home in Ladesville.

Thank you. Thank you. I'm like a, a kick in her gardener once the plosman. She pees. So whatever.

Um, she's known as anti-carry by her extensive family. She's a, okay, here's something fucking, I'll tell you later. Okay. Like backstage.

She's an old woman because 68 is old that, but actually let's have a photo of her.

Because she looks, this is her. I know, kitty, right? Fun. Looks like your grandma. She looks.

How she has great tea. She really does. Really nice to you. Nice to you. She looks like she could be my mom's mom and my mom is older than her.

Because like back then it was like, you're done. Yeah. Like 50. Your back then it was like, you're 17. You have your six children.

Yeah. And then you immediately looked like that. There was no preventative creams back then. Cold cream all over the place. Yeah.

Okay. A lot of dust. So she frequently visited her in Laws and Friends making tea.

Cakes and biscuits for them.

No, don't say ah.

“Remember the poison are at the top of this thing?”

Guess who it is. It's great tea. Johnson. Bye. Oh, you know what?

What? Her last name is Grills. She's got a great grill. Thank you. This is the joy of comedy.

This is what it can be like. Wait a second. Is it Grills like Bear Grills? The guy that I can climb is all over the place. No survives?

No, why? Isn't he a why? Yeah, he is a grill. Like straight up grill. Oh, great.

Would you grill? Yeah. No fucking around. Yeah. In 1947, her 87 year old stepmother, Christine Nicholson,

becomes ill with symptoms of hair loss, nurse, nurse, disorders, progressive whinus, and loss of speech and eventually dies. Well, under Aunt Kerry's care. Hmm.

“Throughout 1941 and 42 various family members become ill,”

including a bunch of family members, but all survived. Then in January 1948, a relation of her husband, Angela Thomas, also becomes ill and dies of the same symptoms, followed by her husband's brother-in-law. Yep.

It would be her brother. Her husband's brother-in-law's her brother. No, it could be her husband's sister's husband. Right? No.

Okay. Listen, nobody remembers this, so we're changing it. Yeah. To whatever we want. If you care, go on to ancestry.com

and figure it out yourself. Hmm. Okay, John Lundberg, he dies in late 48 and one of her stepmother's friends and sister-in-law, not going to go there.

Mary Ann Nicholson dies the following year. But presumably, Aunt Kerry goes on making cakes, auntie, and shit, and tell, I wrote that. Kicks and T- and shit, and tell. September 1952, Yvonne Fletcher, a housewife and mother of two

from the inner city, inner sub-sidney suburb of Newton, is church. New town. New town. It's Newton.

We don't have a miss. Can't turn into a call and response of town names. It's in sin. Kind of sheer was in sin. Can I remind everyone that I got yelled at last?

And I cried. So I'm going to be on edge a little bit. Not include pronouncing shit wrong. Let's just pretend that's why I'm doing that.

“I think that's why they were like a fucking football stadium,”

just now cheering for that correct town name for that situation. I made P.B. in the potty. [laughter] We support you, don't you? Yeah.

Hmm. Kicks and T-s. New town. [laughter] Yep, every time now.

Was charged and tried for the murders of both. So this chick fucking turns out kills both of her husbands with this poison called valium. So it's a rat-bait poison. Because rats were fucking everywhere.

I'm sitting after World War II.

They were 1.2 million rats just in Sydney.

Whoa. And from. [laughter] Give it up for a rat. And then.

So there was this rat bait. And there was like put it in. Put it in Brad and sprinkle it around your house. And we'll kill rats. We're like babies are crying.

Okay. Yeah. But it was this crazy poison. And people were like, oh, you can buy it at the store. I'm pissed at my two husbands.

And then. They say that at least 55 people were poisoned by valium. Tan of which died. As far as I know, because they weren't doing toxicology ship, back then, right?

Because it was almost untraceable. I mean, by her? No, no, no, no. In general. And so this one case got really big.

And. And then. Okay.

Okay.

And it caused symptoms where valium poisoning

were loss of hair. Nervous disorders. Progressive blindness. Lost to speech. Oregon failure.

An eventual death. Remember that from the beginning? Yes. Oh my god. Are you putting it together?

I kind of found it. It feels like someone's a poisoner.

“I think we have another photo just for the fuck of it.”

Let's see. Oh, that's when she got arrested. Never mind. Spoiler alert. That's that time she put.

Oh, look at that. That's true. Steven, I didn't tell you to put that up. Wait, was that her? Yeah.

That was a good dress. I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. Be happy. Okay.

Because of the widespread media coverage. So this chick kills a bunch of people. It gets all over the papers. A dude named John Downey, who's related to an orphan at Kerry, read the story in his paper and was like, hmm, those sound like really familiar symptoms that I've had

myself when I hung out and anti-carries cakes and shit. Uh-oh. And his, his, and there's something, uh, is a long time ago. Evelyn Lundberg also had all these symptoms and she got even gone blind. Wow.

So what she didn't do. No. So in May 11th. That's my birthday. Oh, shit.

That's right. That's okay.

When you always have to do that, even in the middle of a, not this one.

Like, I'm like, I'm, like, I'm, we're just doing it. Oh, man. So in I sense Steven some horrible thing that had a date on it the other day. It was like, and this is the day this person was to captivate me. He was like, my birthday.

You're just going to help yourself. And you're, you know? They got to captivated 88 years ago on my birthday. Yeah. I wonder what I was doing that day.

Um, okay. So he goes over to Aunt Kerry's house and there's, like, super suspicious of her. She is bringing tea and cakes and stuff out. And he sees her take something out of her pocket and put it in the tea. So he becomes a stream magician and whoosh, which is where I'm switched, which, which, which, which, which, which takes the tea that he saw her lace, pours it in at what I'm assuming is a bottle.

I don't know. And fuck and takes it home with him brings it to the police and they test it. Whoa, valley poison isn't it. Shocker, shocking. Nobody saw that one coming.

Um, so then they also take her beautiful house dress. And there's, they find traces of family in the pockets. Oh. So. Fuck it, little bit.

Yeah.

Don't ruin house dresses for us.

Please. So I have. You can put so much shit in house dress. Oh, my God. A corner's in quest.

A bunch of witnesses. Recall her bringing them drinks and how eager she was to help preparing food into. I got it. I got it. I want to kill everybody.

Nobody wants to help with the kitchen. It's a thing you offer and help people like, no, no, I got it. Yeah.

“So you should be suspicious as someone is like, oh, no.”

Yeah. You know, it's like, no, you don't. The game's on. What are you doing? Yeah.

Calm down. Go eat. What do they have? Go eat dip. Okay.

So at 63 years old, she's arrested in charge with the attempted murder of her sister-in-law, who's now fine. And her daughter, her sister-in-law's daughter. I mean, both of them. Huh?

Thank you. I'm, I'm big pictureing here in the details. And I'm out here watching all of it. You didn't read 18 articles and copies. I sure did.

No, this is all new to me. Yeah. Hmm. Um. Okay.

So she's arrested. And they all, investigators also exhumed a bunch of those bodies from before. And they found traces of family. And two of them. And the others had been cremated so they couldn't be tested.

So the corner found her responsible for several deaths. Can they do that? Um.

“That's how they used to do it, I think, back then.”

Okay. I'm going to request. Yeah. Um. She, there's a book.

Nevermind. She, I know I'm not going to remember it. It's called The Dictionary. The Bible? Oh, what's that book?

Uh, Da Vinci code. And that's it. That's there it is. She's charged with the murders and of Mary Nicholson, who was 60, Christina Nicholson, who was 87 and Angelina Thompson, who was 84.

And at her trial, she professed her innocence. She said police had pressured her relatives to convict her. Yeah. The ones that were still living. Yeah.

Um. And that she, quote, helped to live, not to kill. Yeah. I helped out people live. I didn't kill them.

But yeah. And yet they're dead. Yeah.

She was just like, a little not so. Oh, yeah. She was excited to be out in her house. Sure. And in the end, the cases are dropped.

“And she's only convicted on the attempted murder of Mrs. Lennberg.”

So the woman who went blind in October 1953, because they could basically only do what

deal with what it was happening to the survivors. I guess. Yes. Yes. Sorry.

What was the time for it? Like, was it over years that she was doing it? It started in 1940. Yeah. For something.

Say seven. Let's go seven. I think '41 is when it started. But somehow in 1953, okay. And so another-- in 1953, Bob Lollum, he's an Australian rugby football

fucking player. But like, star. I was waving my arms in the air. How did you not get that? Referee?

No. Like, this is big time. This is a big time. Star. Okay, now I know.

Yeah. I just have to say this. Just as a sidebar.

“The first day we got here, I turned the TV on and my hotel room.”

And there was a rugby game on my god.

Yeah. Have you ever seen that shit? You guys! Oh my god. Yeah.

They pull each other. Is it big boys? Just pulling on each other. It's crazy. Yeah.

It's hot stuff. It's mute that shit. Keeping on in the background. It's nice. Congratulations.

You get that all the time. I never. I never. I didn't realize I was such a fan. See, it scared me.

It did? Yeah. Why?

Because I'm scared of everything.

Everything. How about a nice big thigh. I know what that mine was. Hiles thighs. Okay.

So much sweat. That's bad for you. You have not enough. All right. Sweat in the thighs.

Not my thing. Yes. Yes. Okay. It's like we're two different people.

I mean, we seem to be different. Um, I'm not the bad. Okay.

“So this dude's mother-in-law tried to poison.”

Who was having a sexual relationship with? What do we do? Reclare of I this. My mother-in-law is correct in this sort of part. His wife's hot mom.

I wish I didn't look over there. I didn't look over there. His wife's hot mom and he were looking up. What? And she tried to poison him.

She was like, you're cheating on my daughter. I'm putting poison you. I'm making this part up. I'm guessing that's what the thing is. Yeah.

He was like, but also it's with me. I don't know the logic here. Shit. Yeah. This story has everything.

I mean, thighs. That's my project. Um, he lives and, uh, soon afterwards, Thalian is banned from sale. So the jury deliberated, um, for our aunt, our aunt over here. She sentenced to death in later communities of life in prison.

She becomes known as Aunt Valley in prison. And Thalian prison. It sounds like, like, in a loving way. I think the other inmates liked her. It also sounds like, um, they're trying to say Aunt Sally, but they have a list.

Or they're a five-year-old child in prison. She, in 1960, she died in, um, of, uh, you know, old stuff. Yep. Uh, less than seven years after her trial. In the end, nobody fucking knows her motives.

And people with thought it was revenge or envy or anger, um, and some of the dudes said, seven people were recipients of charity and kindness from Aunt Carey. And they all died or suffered the nasty effects of Thalian poisoning. She had maybe financial benefit to games, sometimes none. And no one ever fucking figured out her motives.

Wow. So that's our front Aunt Valley. Wow, Aunt Sally. Aunt Sally. Thank you, Aunt Sally.

Thank you. Oh. Oh. Man, I got to get my allergy thinking care. This sound guy almost shat his pants just now.

Stephen, Stephen, and you broke the mic. Um. Well, that was crazy. Okay, we're back. Are there updates for this story?

There are no updates. And you know what else? Let's just fucking get into your epic classic. This is a classic.

I was so afraid you had already found this story.

“And that you, like that, basically, I was waiting for when you were doing your story.”

Hoping to God, it wasn't this story. Just like then, and then they found and then Sally found a shark on that's right. Um, by a shark. Okay, this is Karen's story of the shark arm murder. [music] Hello, it's me, Anna Sinfield, from The Girl Friends.

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Hi, I'm Danielle Robe, host of Bookmark to the podcast by Reese's Book Club, and this week on Bookmark, we're basically hosting the Ultimate Girls Night.

Reese with her spoon, Jennifer Garner, Judy Greer, Rita Wilson, and Gary Rice and author Laura Dave. These are the women behind season two of the Apple TV series The Last Thing He Cold Me. We're talking about turning a book into a hit show, and what it really takes to bring a story to life.

“The most important metric for me is do I want to share this book with somebody?”

That's what creates community, and that's the main thesis of our book club and why we started it was just to connect people together. Listen to the bookmark by Reese's Book Club podcast on the eye heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Mine is similarly old, and similarly crazy. I'm going to do the shark arm murders. Man, I was so bummed today when I text even. Hey, can I do the shark arm murders? Get out of town.

It's awful, I'm sorry. And when you see that, when you're like, yes, such a bummer. Yeah, because we have to check with him to make sure the other one isn't doing it, because we don't know what word is we're doing. Is it super tonight when I know what Karen's doing? Well, it also with my car. She goes, you're doing my backup murder.

It's my front up murder girl. You're just making a list of 20 murders. You're like, sorry, that's mine. That's mine.

“Well, this one is, I have to say, I think of all the murders I've ever read or done.”

It just has so much shit going on. That's so, it's, it's beyond and yet let it go. I actually, I did, I just saw shark arm murder and I was like, why do that? And so I don't know a lot about it. Oh, really, you just looked at the title.

So I'm going to, I'm going to sip that. No, then that would have been better if it had happened. Do it. Oh, I'm going to sip that. No, that's, and then tip it this way. And then fall flatten it down.

Roll yourself up in the rug. It's really funny because this somewhere along the line this rug got put into our writer is like, this is the stage design for us. And that means that everywhere we go, somebody has to buy a rug. Yeah, I'm like, carry it around all the time.

And someone gets like, at the venues, like, well, we don't have a rug.

Yeah.

You're like, sorry about the rug.

“And we're just like, we don't care a fuck about the rug.”

Anyway, that was just a bit of a behind the scenes for you. Tonight you guys get in all the shit. Tonight tonight. Okay. April 17, thank you.

1935. A fisherman hooks a small shark off of what I'm imagining to be pronounced kooky beach. [LAUGHTER] No?

Yeah? By the laughter I'm going to guess, no. [LAUGHTER] Kooky. Kooky beach.

Kooky. Oh, I see. This is sexy country. [LAUGHTER] Kooky beach.

[LAUGHTER] All right. You got to set it. I mean. [LAUGHTER]

Okay. Listen to this shit. [LAUGHTER] This fisherman catches a shark, right? Kind of small.

“And as he's reeling this small shark in,”

a huge shark jumps up and eats the smaller shark. And so then the fisherman holds the huge shark in a lot. Wow. This is a shit that would go fucking viral if he had a camera back then. Can you imagine?

Yes. That kooky beach fisherman would be billionaires. Yeah. You two can mention. Yeah.

Okay. So that alone. We're in, again, if this was a movie.

And that's the first scene.

Yeah. You're not leaving that scene. You're like, whoever this director is, you're my favorite artist of all time. Like, what if that wouldn't happen?

No. Oh, oh, my god. I can't believe I caught it. Such a small shark. Holy shit.

Jaws is here. [LAUGHTER] So what they do is it's almost. It's coming up on Anzac Day and Anzac Day in Australia is, it basically is honors all the soldiers that went off to World War One from New Zealand and from Australia.

And it's a big holiday. It's a big holiday weekend. So in 1935, the kooky aquarium baths. Oh, do we have the picture of the kooky aquarium baths, even? So they were like, it was like a big fancy complex.

Right up. Right up. I see the word refreshments. Yeah. I see the word rooms.

I see the word boiling water. Oh. Oh, yeah. They had so much boiling water there. What?

It was awesome. I wonder what the refreshments were. It was boiling water. [LAUGHTER] You could have all the boiling water you could drink.

But you had to drink it right by the stove while it was boiling.

“So that's why they weren't doing a very good business.”

No, not really. Okay. So there's been shark attacks on all along the coast. And in 1935, in the end of February, the beginning of March, three different young men were killed by sharks on the coast.

So they had people out trying to catch and kill sharks all the time. They were like, guys, just leave them alone. And I mean, number one. What, sharks? Yeah, stand up.

Yeah. Fucking ocean. I love that. Well, they're like, we're going to take care of this shark problem. Like killing three sharks or whatever.

Like there's so many more. Yeah, exactly.

You kind of, it's, it's a hard one to solve when they've been around for 80 million years.

And they don't need to change because they're perfect. Fuckin' mom. Killin' machines. They have so many rows of teeth. Oh, my God.

Stephen and I started getting into this thing today. He started sending me pictures of sharks with human teeth. And you're gonna see those. It's the best thing of all time. Oh.

When they're, picture? Now, I don't think so. You don't have one, Stephen. Yeah. I mean, you could just imagine it's like a jar, like it's a shark picture coming at you

with the crazy fucking pointed teeth, rose rose rose. But instead of that, it's like Taylor Swift's teeth. So it's like, oh my God. I need a teeth. Fuckin' hilarious.

Anyway, we had a great time guys. So anyway, the owner of the Kuchy baths was like, business is slow because there's been these shark attacks. But we've got this big holiday weekend coming up. I'm gonna fucking get that big ass shark that that guy just caught.

Stick him in inside the baths. Can you show the inside of the baths? Because he's alive, right? It's still alive. So they decide they're going to do it.

So that's the baths. It's all salt water. The salt wars coming in from the ocean. And when we go in salt water. They have the same thing.

It's just because it's a sutra bath. So it was right on the coast. Right. Okay. So, Stephen.

So they take the shark and they put it in the pool. So people can come pay money and look at the thing that's killing people in the water.

I want to swim with him.

“You know, people just stood around and said, he was pretty big.”

He was pretty big. He was what you like to say down here. Four meters long. Oh, that's how four meters. Four meters and one ton with two ends in any.

What a measurement.

So this poor shark is so at first when he's there, he's there for a week.

And at the beginning he's swimming around, everyone's freaking out, paying money and everything is working out great. But after a week, the shark starts acting strangely. It's moving slowly. It seems disoriented.

It seems sick. And then on Anzac Day at 430 p.m. There's a small crowd in the baths watching the shark. And the shark goes into a frenzy. And then, as it's quoted here, I got all this information from the Sydney crime museum

website and the dictionary of Sydney.org. And of course, our Wikipedia starts to go crazy. And then it starts vomiting copiously. Is the quote. And out of its stomach come a rat, a rat, a rat, a bird.

The remains of the smaller shark that he ate earlier. And then the big surprise, a severed human arm. [LAUGHTER]

So those people standing around at the Koochi baths.

There's the arm. No. Yeah. Look at his ducs. Look at his tattoos.

Ducs are up. Well, here's the thing. The arm has a very distinctive tattoo of two boxers warming up together. Two boxers boxing. You need an arm.

We need to each get that. Should we get it? I get one boxer and you get the other.

“Or should we get a tattoo of a severed arm with boxes?”

[LAUGHTER] You know someone has that somewhere. I hope so. OK.

So now, I'm only halfway down the first page of this story.

That's all I'd like to say right now. This-- we've already got a double shark attack. And then the shark barfs in front of everybody, a paying audience, which I would have loved, and he barfs up a human arm. So they call the police, they get the arm out of the pool.

They take it to inspect it. And they notice that it is not the remnants of the shark having eaten a person, because the arm has been severed. Not it. I didn't know this.

Yeah. So they know something's going on. And they have to look into it. OK. So then they take the arm down to the police station.

I'm assuming-- they fingerprint the hand of the arm. Oh, my God. Uh-huh. And they find out that it belongs to a former boxer, Bill Yards Hall owner, and small-time criminal Jim Smith, who had been missing since April 7.

How long was that? When did it-- April 25th is Anzac Day? So you do the math because I can't-- Smith also lived in Ballman.

Hey. It-- Ballman? [LAUGHTER] Look, listen. Look and listen and spell your cities correctly.

“We just-- I think everywhere we go, we're going to have to sit down with a native for like two hours”

before we go out on stage. Two minutes, really. I mean, we don't need to take that much time. We get to ask a person at the front desk of the hotel. Cut into that mascara time.

And just a little bit. How do we say this word? OK. Got it. And then we do think correctly at the show.

Listen. Jim Smith lived in that town with his wife and child. And we're just going to start saying that town. OK. And his billiard's hall, as they were back then, was a quote, "seedy type of place were by flourish."

Sounds fun. Fun. Lots of rugby. [LAUGHTER] Jim Smith was also a police informant or what they call a "fiz gig" or a "fizger."

What? That's what a cute-- you guys? Isn't that precious? I like that. OK, so they look into his situation.

And they find that either it is billiard's hall or the other place he works with. Which was called "The Tatter Sauce Club." He had fell in with a criminal doing business with a criminal named "reginaled Holmes." Let's take a look at "reginaled Holmes."

He's a classic kind of criminal. Oh, fuck. Good day. Good day to you, sir. Everything about him.

Reginald has a whole box of pinky rings. That he kicks on his dresser.

For sure.

They don't kind of-- and sometimes when he talks and he's drunk, they come out.

Like for sure, though. They just slip down a tiny bit. Or at least with two front teeth. You know how they-- what do they call this? From any way, slippers.

Anyways.

“Also, I think Stephen needs a pencil thin mustache.”

Oh, yeah. I think that needs to be the next stretch and he takes it. Yeah. It's effective. OK.

All right, so that's "reginaled Holmes." And he was a family of very successful boat makers. And he was rich. He had a big mansion at McMans Point. His business was in Lavender Bay all your favorite places.

And he has a wife to children. He's a regular at the Royal Sydney Yacht Club. He's a pillar of the local Presbyterian Church.

But he was also a smuggler and a fraudster, as they call him.

Yes. So what he would do was he hired men to drive motorboats out to sea that would pick up packages that sailors would throw off of boats and the packages would be full of cocaine. Or they would be full of cigarettes.

Or they would be full of other things that you weren't allowed to have. This is some straight fucking boardwalk empire shit right here. Yes. You guys seen this? Yes.

This guy's nucky. He's-- Watch out. It's a fucking great show. Right.

So Jim Smith drove one of those boats.

“So that's how they all kind of know each other.”

OK. And so that's the cops are starting to find all of this out. And they also find out that the two reds and Jim had started a racket with a convicted for journey, Patrick Brady. Here's Patrick Brady.

I wouldn't say as much of a classy gent as reds. Probably didn't go to the Yacht Club that much. Just this is very superficial. But oh, Pat Brady, I think, was like the whiskey. And nice had a hair, though.

I think you know what I mean? He was good at drawing. Because he was a forger. Oh, yeah. So he's probably smart, real sharp.

But I bet he had a foul mouth. All right. So the three of them are doing this thing where Patrick Brady makes checks. And the he would get-- They would get the name of Regis Fancy Friends and the people that he would make boats for.

And they would make fake checks. And then I believe Jim Smith would go cash those checks. And so they were in that a ring of deceit and deception. I don't know what I'm saying. But apparently in the police find out that Jim started blackmailing

Reginald homes. And obviously was not a good idea. So on April 7, 1935, Jim Smith tells his wife that he's going to go fishing. But instead he went and played cards with Patrick Brady at the Cecil Hotel in Franella.

Fuck, yes. Good job. Good job. Thank you so much. It felt good.

It was like, I just didn't think about it. I just was like, I'll just say it. I don't want to overthink it. Because we're starting to get scared of saying places. I'm scared of words and letters.

I mean numbers. Don't get me started. Oh, my God. Maps. I can't even.

Okay. So he lies. This is a love. He lies. Who's wife.

It says he's going to go fishing. And then said he goes and plays cards. Wow. Yeah. Roll those dice.

Yeah. So Patrick Brady had a rented cottage nearby. Where they were drinking playing cards. And that comes into play later. So I taxi driver testifies that he picked up Patrick Brady from Canola

and he drove him to a regional home house at three baby street. Make man's point. Apparently very nice area. And or was in 1935. And on the same day that Jim Smith went missing.

And the cab driver said quote, he was disheveled. He had a hand in his pocket that he wouldn't take out. Because in there, like an arm. He was his hand was holding down an arm. No.

I don't know.

“What if he cut the bottom out of his pocket and he was holding hands with the arm?”

No. This is a criminal. You have to think like a criminal. Okay. So Patrick Brady's arrested.

They get that testimony. They arrest Patrick Brady on May 16. They charge him with a murder of Jim Smith. When the police bring in regional homes. To question him, because they know he's in the circuit.

Raj says he's never met Patrick Brady.

He doesn't know who they're talking about. So he ends up, they ends up letting him go there. They don't have anything to hold him on.

May 20th.

“He goes into his boat shed and attempts suicide by shooting himself in the head with a 32.”

Reginald does. Reginald does. Richie. Richie, rich. Reginald.

Okay. But here's the thing.

The bullet flattened against the bone in his forehead.

What? And so he was merely stunned. What? Did you make that up? I wish I did.

It would be such good writing. Wow. That's that's some forehead. It. I mean, that's like a fucking plate.

Yeah. It's. So he stuns himself by shooting himself in the fucking head. It's stunning. It's stunning.

It is stunning. He falls in. He's like in his boat or whatever. He falls into the water. He falls into the water.

The water revives him from above to the head. And he comes to. He gets into his boat.

“And he starts driving around Sydney Harbor.”

He disrupts the ferry services. Do you think he's just screaming? Yeah. Ah. The fog keeps his head.

Don't work on my head. That's what I mean. Don't work on my head. That's what I mean. Come on.

Yeah. It sounds a bit. Yeah. He does this for four hours. Shit.

I mean, what would you do? Right? Come on. You lose their shit. Who among us is right.

He finally takes out of the harbor goes two kilometers out to see.

And he finally just stops. He allows the police to come on board. And he says to the police, Jimmy Smith is dead. And there's only another left. If you leave me until tonight, I will finish him.

Oh. Okay. Yeah. So it's like, we suspect we're the police. We suspect you of being involved in a murder.

And then you're like, look, I don't know that guy. But if you just give me a day, I'll kill him. Yeah. Red. Yeah.

Red. Get your shit together. Yeah.

“Would you get the fucking concussion when you shot yourself in the head?”

What did that somehow affect you mentally? Yeah. Then you shot yourself right in the fucking head. Okay. Yeah.

So there's an empty bottle of brandy in the boat. Of course.

Could have had something to do with that.

But I really. Also could have been a bullet to the head. So detective Sergeant Frank Matthews questions, Redge. And he says he spills it. He says Patrick Brady killed Jim Smith.

Just remembered his body. Put it in a trunk. And threw it into gunna matted bay. Fucking. Nobody knows what that is.

I know. I know. We don't have that here. You got that from the wrong article. Yeah.

We go to a different bay. It's not our bay. It's not our bay. They call that putting a body onto a trunk and throwing it into the bay. They call that a Sydney send off.

Oh my God. It's not an accusation. I got it. I got it from Sydney dictionary.org. Wow.

Not even.com. That's a.org. So they know what they're talking about. Slash a you. That's slash b you.

Okay. So. Go on. Tell me more. This is.

And crazy. It's insane. So then he claimed that Patrick Brady came to his house. Showed him. Smith's severed arm.

Hey. Checking out of this. But I did. Back in the pocket. Oh.

And then. Hmm. Oh my God. Um. And then threatened homes with murder if he did not immediately receive five hundred.

Dollars. Um. Wait. Oh, hey. I have the earrings on too.

I forgot. Go on. What? Doesn't this story have that you're not completely focused on everything. I.

I can't give you more than this. No story will ever be more interesting and you're fucking touching your earrings. [laughter] Well, I can't just fan about three year old right here. Go on.

I'm sorry. Oh, you don't know. I'm here with you. Please. I'm supporting you.

Okay. They. They start up a corners in quest in my mind as well as yours. That's how I knew one was. I was.

Okay. So the day before the corners in quest. Reg homes with draws. $500 from his bank account.

“And in lately evening, he tells his wife that he has to go meet someone.”

They lie to their wife. I know. I know. Maybe if you were honest to your wife, you wouldn't. His wife's like, get out of here.

His forehead is so hard. Yeah. You can go anywhere you want. Get away from me. Yeah.

Lie to me. You're like a monster. Okay. Early the next morning, which is the day of the corners in quest June 11th, 1935. Reginald homes is found dead in the driver's seat of his Nash to Dan with three gunshot wounds

to the chest. I don't know. And he is the in quest star witness. He wasn't invincible. He isn't well they didn't get in here.

Right.

But he was never offered police protection.

So he was so, but so there's a guy named Alex Castle, who's a professor.

“And he wrote a book in 1995 called The Shark Armirters, which everyone should read.”

I definitely am going to. Just to see if it's actually real. It would be amazing if like this Sydney dictionary dot or was just a prank website. And it's like, and everyone here knew it. Yeah, exactly.

And I'm like, she fucking fell for it. That's my little brother. Are you stupid? But professor Castle believes that regional homes took out a contract on his own life. Because to spare his family the shame of him be going to jail.

Oh, that's his theory. Okay. Because the crime scene was made to appear like homes had committed suicide. Except for there were three bullet wounds in his chest. Yeah.

That would you'd have to really be fucking dedicated. Yeah. Just one more. Yeah. He's like, I've tried this before.

I'm going to triple down on this one. Yes, one. I'm just really going to focus. Yeah. And I'm going to just set my intention.

“I'm going to do some slight yoga breathing.”

Okay. The police have no doubt that he's been murdered. Right. Because. A shot three times.

Well, yes. And. But also, they find out that Jim Smith, they believe that Jim Smith was killed by Patrick Brady on the orders of gangland figure Eddie Wyman, who was arrested while attempting to forge a check in 1934 the year before.

And the reason he got arrested was because of a tip that Jim Smith had given to the police because he was a. That was the case. That's fine. We're on the same wavelength.

So when that happens, and Jim Smith is exposed as a police. In form of all of the city underworld, Bill Yard's whole denizens. Know that he's a, a stool pigeon.

And he basically has a target on his.

Very soft forehead. Yes. Right at the top of his arm. Okay. So here's the thing.

The, the in quest starts and on June 12, 1935. But the case against Patrick Brady falls apart because there's no evidence. So Brady's lawyer. Clive of it. Actually claimed there was not enough substance to even begin the in quest.

He argued that an arm quote does not constitute a body, which is, you can't argue with that. It's just part and that Jim Smith minus his arm could very well be alive somewhere else, which is true. Totally. Ooh, what if he was like, oh, buddy, they're going to come after me. Take my arm.

I'm going to get the fuck out of here. Yeah. You keep this. Show them my arm. Yeah.

Then do a bunch of other crazy shit. Do whatever the fuck you want. Do whatever you want. You'll take.

I never like this tattoo anyway.

Yeah. It's kind. It's too big. I'm not that into boxing. I was drunk and my friend made me do it.

Yeah. Brady is found guilty and acquitted. I'm sorry not guilty and acquitted. That's the craziest part of the story. He's found guilty and immediately acquitted.

So for the next 30 years, Patrick Brady steadfasting maintained. He was in no way connected to the murder of Jim Smith. And he died in Sydney on April 18, 1965. The age of 76, original homes was cremated on June 13, 1935. And he left in a state valued at over $34,000 in 1935,

which today is millions of dollars. And then I would be a millionaire back then. Yeah. I don't that really. I'll just be like doing okay.

Just tell him how much money I know. All right. Well, I'm giving it all to a fucking hurricane.

I just wanted to just threw it in the hurricane. I hope they're giving some money to the hurricane. Here. Pay all the hurricane. Get out of here.

You guys may have already read this. But this is something like on our Twitter that everyone's retreating because you may have known this. But the state of Florida actually had to put out a warning to its citizens not to shoot at the hurricane. Yeah. That's where we live.

Can someone, can you live here, please? You can yell at us all you want. Just as long as no shoots us. And even though the Navy and the Air Force searched port hacking and gunnamada bay, the thing you deny exists, but I insist is real.

They never found the rest of Jim Smith's body.

So he could deal with it. But they don't know. That's it. That's the arm shirt. Shark arm murder.

That crazy was fun. Full of twists and turns. Nothing to controversial. You know, for a true crime podcast. Yeah.

Crazy. Okay, we're back. Karen, any updates on this legendary story. There are, uh, it's just this one, which is in 2020 a book called Shark Arm. A colon, a shark, a tattooed arm, and two on soft murders was published about this case. Yeah.

The authors fill up group and Kevin Meager are the people who put that book together.

“So if you want to know all the details and have it all laid out for you,”

I would get shark arm colon, a shark, a tattooed arm, and two on soft murders. And then also the doll that did that. I can't remember it was before after us. It was before. Yeah.

That's what I saw. I used to call Dave when they did good stories. And I'd be like, yeah. So since that one was a murder, I'm going to have to probably take it. Yeah.

Or he would text me and be like, we just covered this.

You have to do it. Yeah. Oh, that's not there. He's any sense. He was notes.

He's like, just read this. Karen calls me and he's like, I don't have notes because I don't actually do any homework. God damn it. He really figured it out. Okay.

Should we get into the hometown? Yes. Let's hear the hometown about John Wayne. Glover the Grammy Killer. Do we?

Should we? Yeah. Can we? Yeah. We're going to do a home.

Let's do some hometowns. Take a bow. What if I just threw up immediately? Oh, my God, it's over. I think God.

I don't. I let Karen choose. Well, but. All right. We got a fun tweet.

“And we want there's someone who made us a very great and specific offer.”

I think her name is Joe. Do you? Are you still here? Are you here?

Can you move walking as your name, Joe?

Yes. Can you please come up here? Yep. I see her. There's a door.

Yeah. You have to go to that door. Do you see that husband of mine? Wave to them, Vince? No, you don't have to do it.

I don't can see her. Are you here? Is she there? She's coming. I see her.

Is she there? Let her go. Let her get by. Is she moving? Yes.

Is anything happening? Can she have me? Don't spill. Is there popcorn? Some kind of action.

She's going to come behind. She's going to come behind. She's going to get ready. People like Stephen. And find out her name.

We're trying to teach him manners. But he's a millennial. And you guys know how those are. Yeah. Yeah.

There she is. Yeah. Good job. You didn't think we'd take you up. I remembered it.

Hi. Georgia. Looks like you brought your own microphone. That'd be amazing. So I do.

Does it work? Is it on? Yeah. If you're going to threaten us with a good time. Oh, it doesn't work.

Thank you. Was working. Does that one work? Yes. No.

Okay. Listen. You don't need a microphone to Moonwalk. So let's go ahead. Really quick though.

So we were looking at Twitter.

“And can you just tell the people what you tweeted at us?”

I said that I'm super good at me. Walking if you get tired of talking. And we don't ever get tired of talking. But we get tired of me. Yeah.

However. We like Moonwalking. We love. We love. Yeah.

I don't know how it's going to work. Well, what about the realm? Do you need to take your shoes on? Okay. Here we go.

She's got holes in her tights. Yes. Yes. Yes. So I see it.

I see it. No, that was super good. That was great. That was amazing. Do you?

No, it's not going to work.

Here we go. That wouldn't work. Okay. Do you have a hometown? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, that's here. Oh, she is. What do they call it?

“A double act when someone's going to two things?”

Yeah. That's right. A double act. Oh, it's cool. Yeah.

How do people go to two things? Wow. We met a lot of people. Have you come to Florida? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't want to take a gun. Where are you from? I'm from. Originally from French as far as, which is near where these hometowns.

Where is that? Berkeley. Oh. Yeah. Nearby here.

Sure. Well, I mean.

Or incidentally, compared to Florida.

Okay. Okay. There was. This was when I was. I looked really young from my age.

Oh. Me too. Just out of high school in the late '80s. You do. Thanks.

Did you hear the guys? They're buying it. They're buying it, Joe. We were. They've been.

This is John Wayne Glover. He's the granny killer. Oh, yes. Oh, I saw that one. I was going to do that.

And I'm like, I can't. I can't bear. I can't bear the burden. This is perfect. Yeah.

And I was. Someone else. Yeah. I've got a twin sister. She's really pretty.

I love making her joke. I get it. That's funny. Pen. Wait a second.

Do you have a podcast too? No, it's for real. Do you really? What is it? It's about cults.

Are you talking to him? What's a cult? It's a cult. Tell it. It's a good one.

I accept my friend Alex.

“He's he's he's I'm so shitty because he came up with a much better name.”

But is it? See you last Tuesday. I could. I'm like six episodes so I can't change it. No, don't change it.

Sorry, Alex. Start your own podcast. Really easy. And it's going to do it. Historical.

Oh my god, I can't wait to listen to the zealots. Do it. Do it. Okay. Yeah.

Love it. I love cults. I did the family. I know. Okay.

I know. I was kind of shady. Because I'm. Yeah. Anyway.

Did I miss a little lot of shit. I know I missed Julian Assange. Wasn't it? And I didn't say that. Yeah.

No. He was. Yeah. And have you seen photos of her now? Yes.

No, we saw that one. She got so many face lifts that her face now starts back here. That's rude. She's very old and dying. Okay.

But she's bad person. Yeah. Very. Great. Oh my god.

Such a good place. Yeah. So. Pretty cool. We've been a couple of old women killed.

And in Mossman, which is very busy, suburb. This is all North Shore where everyone's really uptime. And John Wengler, I hated his mother. And then he got a stepmother. Oh mother-in-law that he also hated.

And he worked as a pie salesman. That was awesome. So prospect. Like meat pies. Oh.

Oh, yeah. I know what a meat pie is. Delicious savory pastry. Got it. But like, door to door or--

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. That's not good. That's not good.

Not good. Salt ladies. Sales pies. To their nursing homes. You think you'd be like, I'm going to get another job.

I'm going to do something different. Nope. And old ladies started to die in the nursing homes. He delivered to you. But no, no connection.

And he even got in trouble a couple of times for-- He just wandered through the nursing homes. And just the old ladies out. Oh. He was gross.

It's still no connection.

“Why would a pie salesman need anything interesting to happen in this?”

What? Sorry. What year was this again? Uh, 1989. Oh, yeah.

Oh, you said that again. Because you're so young. You're so beautiful. Yeah. [LAUGHTER]

And he would see old ladies coming home from doing their shopping. And follow them back to nearly their front door. And then, as they were opening the front door, hit them in the back of their head with a hammer. No.

And then take them inside. And he wouldn't. He'd often still just like a hundred dollars but he'd leave their jewelry.

Um, and he was basically just saying that, you know,

he doesn't really know how he does it. He just hate old ladies and can't control himself. But we were--we wanted to go at my, um, beautiful 20s for an eye. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER]

We wanted to go to, um, we invited to two parties when we came. Wow. I know. Yeah. [LAUGHTER]

That's how it is when you're young. [LAUGHTER] Uh, and we went allowed to go to the nearby one

We were young though. Um. Did you? Are you aging backwards?

And you looked really old though.

[LAUGHTER]

“Yeah, but it's got to got to get it, yes.”

Um, and so we went to the other party in Musman. And that night he killed someone in Musman. Well, that afternoon he had, but we hadn't heard from it yet. Because 1989 we were watching Countdown, not the news. [LAUGHTER]

Countdown's a really cool show, isn't it? [LAUGHTER] And eventually he got--they made the connection between pies and feeling up old ladies and hinting them on the head. And he--we don't say just steal like $100,

but nothing--no jewelry. And he just goes to the nearby RSL. That's it, like-- [LAUGHTER] It's a plan.

[LAUGHTER] It's a plan. No. We can't accept any more new information about this country. I'm sorry.

We maxed out. If I don't understand, it's not true. [LAUGHTER] He'd play the pookies with old ladies money. Pookies is the thing you do at a place.

[LAUGHTER] Do--do a lot of smackies play pookies? Yeah. Oh. How many laws have you seen?

It's sort of one of the other. Oh, God. It got it. It's like a shamanist's got it, yeah. - Hello.

(laughing) - And, yeah, oh yeah, double. And when he got caught, apparently in jail, he just did anything to attract attention. And so he killed himself in 2005,

but all the fellow inmates thought he did that for attention and accidentally actually died. So because he would do lots of things to just say, "Oh, Paul, me." - Um, but he's no. (laughing)

- Amazing. Can you do one more moonwalk before you go? - Yeah. - Yes. - Okay.

Yeah, moonwalk away. (laughing) - You guys show everybody, show. - Thank you so much, but perfection. - Wow, that is what we're looking at.

- It's at home town. - Okay, no! Listen to zealots. - I can't wait. - I know.

- Oh my god, I love what it's called. - It's called. - Oh shit. - Yeah. (screaming)

God bless, Joe, for making that offer. - So good. - So good. - And really coming through, the vibe was just perfection.

It was almost like, our birthday party, if the year before the birthday party had been ruined by like a tornado, so everyone's like, "We're gonna make this the best birthday ever." - We're gonna show you, yeah, for sure.

- We're showing you through getting super drunk. (laughing) And supporting you and having the best accents. - Yay!

“- So do you know if there's any updates for this hometown?”

- No updates. - Not a lot of updates this episode. - All right. - Well, this episode was originally entitled "Live at the Enmore Theater."

- And if you were naming it today, based on the fucking babble that we say during the show, maybe we would call it. (laughing) - One more Tim Tam, my love of Tim Tam's true.

I mean, the eating that we were doing on that tour was incredible, so good. And the candy being brought to us. - Candy was incredible. The Tim Tam's were just top-notch.

We had a cookie bake-off recently at the exactly right offices. And I submitted in the store-bought category. And since I was like, "I don't know to bring "and Finn's brought me home Tim Tam's."

And he's like, "Everyone loves Tim Tam's

"or they've never had them."

And yes, they were a fucking hit. - They really were. And people do need to know about Tim Tam's. It's totally. - We could also call it "Cold Cream" all over the place.

(laughing) She just looks like she anthallies just covered in "Cold Cream." - Yeah. - Or give it up for rats, which is when Georgia.

(laughing) (laughing) That's so ridiculous. - I love it. - That's us having fun.

- Yeah, for sure. - Or how about piles of thighs? - Yep. - Rugby, oh my god. The rugby culture we got to be in.

“And remember we actually got to meet a real rugby player.”

A real Australian rugby player. - Thanks for listening, guys. Let's say goodbye from the stage in Sydney. - Good night. - Good night.

- Good night. - Good day. (upbeat music) - You guys, thank God this went the way it did tonight. - Thank God.

(cheering) - Thank you. - You did this. - We needed it. - I needed her with?

(laughing) - I need a cry of joy, I'm not. (laughing) - I'm just not out right.

- Well, here's the thing though.

- Every, we're so spoiled. - Okay. - Because every show pretty much we've ever done. And especially every show on this run here in your gorgeous country has been amazing.

- Amazing. - Amazing. - Amazing. Like insanely polite audiences, insanely responsive

everyone knows what's going on.

So who gives a shit what happened? You know what I mean?

“Like you guys just reset us, thank you so much.”

(cheering) - Thank you so much. - Thank you, uh, the support of the people who listen to this podcast makes me feel so much joy. It makes us both an awe and every fucking day

where we listen, we're divas, but we know how lucky we are. (laughing) - It's crazy. And, but also it's like we just, it's just that thing where we're very lucky in that we hit a thing

that galvanized a bunch of people, but it's your guys' thing. You know what I mean?

“It's, we all just have the same interest”

and we're just lucky enough to be the ones talking about it. Thank you so much for listening to us. - Thank you so much for your support. (cheering)

- From the bottom of our heart, this was an amazing show.

- Amazing. And we just like you, listen, all we want is for you to stay sexy and dark. (cheering) - By singing, thank you.

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