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Rewind with Karen & Georgia - 88: Live at the Comedy Theatre

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It's time to Rewind with Karen & Georgia! This week, K & G recap Episode 88: Live at the Comedy Theatre in Sydney. Karen told the story of The Backpack Murders, perpetrated by serial killer Iv...

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Hello, and welcome to rewind with Karen and Georgia.

That's right, it's Wednesday, which means it's time for us to recap our old episodes with all new commentary and updates and insights.

And we are recording this one today from the studio at Bahamar. That's right, it's a beachside podcast space at the Bahamar resort in NASA Bahamas. Because we are literally in the freaking Bahamas right now. Where we came here for work, it's the greatest thing that's ever happened to us. It's amazing.

Okay, today we're going to recap episode 88, which we named live at the comedy theater from our live show in Melbourne, Australia. Yeah, so we're talking about Australia, we're in the Bahamas. We are women of the world. And this episode came out on September 28th, 2017. Now let's listen to the intro of episode 88.

We put on hand lotion like right as we were walking out. A little bit greasy for you. We're not bringing my hands because I'm nervous, it's because we've been waiting so long to see you Melbourne. Thank you so much for being here. This is, you're right.

No.

Yeah, but we're really, yeah, we're excited to be here.

We've got a lot of stuff already today. You guys have cute things. Yes. Some quality. Well, can we just start?

Yeah. Can we start right? I need to go. I didn't want to bring it up. No, it was mine to bring up.

It's mine to bring up.

We were just, George and I were just sitting in the bed.

I got in the dressing room. You know, in one of them, light up mirrors. Like, they have backstage theaters like this. We're just, we're just putting on pounds and pounds and makeup. Yep.

Talking about stuff and whatever. Like we do. Just slowly as we're chatting. I just started to tilt a little bit to the right. And right as I was about to turn to Georgia to say, "Hey, are you tilting to the right as I am?"

The chair I was sitting in folded underneath me. The legs of it broke. And I fell all the way down to the ground.

But I fell, but first with my hands, to Georgia, like, contact the whole way down.

So, me and it was so slow. And so sad. Like, and I have that problem of like laughing when people have fortunate events. But I don't know, like, "Oh, no, isn't this fuck for you?" Like, it's very thoughtful.

This was your way of, like, helping me, Georgia's like this. No. For our was barely extended. No. I have a laughing way harder than that.

Me. I think I just went to you and hug you. Because I was like, "This isn't going to go well." I kept thinking that I was going to be able to recover because so much time was passing. I was like, "Look, I am January, February, March."

So, you were just like, "This is going to end soon." This is going to end, but instead of just kept, you were just kept going. Just kept going. Just kept going. I didn't get me out.

A little bit folded up. And then Vince had to come in and pick me up off the ground. Was that, it was that major. And, well, today earlier, hold on. I got done.

No, because I was going to share a thing that happened to me. No, I just need to fully process mine though. Sure, sure. I'm positive mine's worse. The waves of shame are still hitting me.

No shame. No, so much. But it was like, the chair had been broken before, clearly, and was now duck taped together. And that was the story we were going with. No, I swear.

When you bend metal with your hands. What happened to you? Did you fall down? No, I didn't.

I was like, first day and never.

I'm going to go shopping. I'm going to go shopping. I was like, I'm going to go sit at a cafe by myself and have breakfast. Where are you going? Yeah.

It's like, I don't dress up. And I put makeup on. And I was like, leaving a hotel with my headphones in. Like, all these like, dudes who park cars. And I was like, it was very sexy.

And then there was a step I didn't see. And then when I do anything, I make a lot of noise. Like, I can just step off a step and not know it's there. And I can treat my back a little bit.

And I turned and looked at the, one of the guys just to be like, can you believe?

You know, just to be like, I'm okay. And he was just staring at me like he was disgusting. It is okay. We're going to get him fired. Yeah.

So it's been a clumsy day. Oh, who? Yeah. And then just one more just hit me. Oh, no.

Yeah. It's just going to keep happening. Do do do. And till like, eat prangles in my hotel room tonight alone. Do it.

I will.

You guys, what an amazing trip.

We're in Australia for Christ. Yeah. It's. It's. I had to tell you when they first suggested this idea that we come down and do this tour.

Both of us are like, oh, we can't do it. Yeah. We can't. We can't travel. Okay.

I get anxiety. You can't go far away. Yeah. It seemed impossible. Yeah.

It seemed like a joke. Yeah. Yeah. We'll go. Okay.

Tell them we'll be there. Totally. Hmm. But then it actually worked out. Yeah.

I think a big part of that was that somebody.

And I'm not sure who it was.

Fluis first class.

Oh. Yeah. That was. Yeah. I feel there's definitely some anger.

We'll be like, first class.

We'd love to go to hell and do a couple of shows.

Yeah. Do they have a, do they have a menu? I can take a look at that. Did they have a lounge? So we talk about her there.

We might actually be very dangerous for us together. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to make things fair and like to make myself. Not get a big head.

I stole something from first class. That's right. Georgia kept it super real in first class. Yeah. It was a little like, fuck the man going.

You know, punk rock always.

Yes. With us. Yeah. Also, but can I get another champagne, please? Yes.

And I need a better pillow. You, you. Uh, so you got really excited because they served us food. Yeah. And you know I love that.

That's not the part. I got really excited because they served us food. Everyone gets excited about food. I'm Karen Turner. I'm nursing and said to me.

Did you see the salt and pepper shakers? Because they were a little pepper and a big salt in the shape of the Sydney Opera House. Yeah. Like on. Yeah.

It was like, pretty adorable. I think I don't have them. So. So then I had four wine with dinner. Or breakfast for an hour.

We don't know what time it was. We still don't. They closed the shades. They turned the lights down. There was like, you know, they put like fake twinkly lights.

I'm sort of like dinner. Great. Wine. Yeah. I believe it.

Dinner. Dinner. Wine. And then after dinner, I go backstage to get to the bathroom. And.

Is that because the curtain? Yeah. I know the feel are like bustling around working. It reminds me of like, you know, what you think. It's actually like, which is like, this everything's fake.

We're not really on a plane in the air. It's like simulation and your plane. So we go backstage. Yeah. Action happens.

That's for all the clockwork. Great. It's for hamsters and a thing. Yeah. Making the plane go.

Exactly. Everyone's working and bustling around. And I'm waiting for the bathroom and the laboratory. And. Excuse me.

The laboratory. Yeah. I'm first class now. And I'm like. Christian to a corner and I look to my left and there's like a big tray full of some pepper shakers.

And everyone suddenly is like turning with their back to me. So I again for four lines. And so I buck him into my scarf to carrot and then I walk by carrot. Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Oh, no, the police. And as I walked by carrot, I was like, it was like, giddy. Well, I was like, he was peeing.

I was like, oh, what's just going on? Yeah. The guy's like, right at it.

I was like, I should say that for Spurin were like, in Brisbane for a first shot.

I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. I don't know. I don't know.

I'll tell you. I'll walk by. And like, through the mat room. And I had already was trying to figure out how to look them up online to buy them.

I was like, with that being scymo or does virgin have their own version?

I'm like, oh, like this. Of course, there's no Wi-Fi to check anything. So it's just all up here. And then squirrely scarfie walks by. It goes, like, that and puts them in my hand.

I almost started crying. I went, I tried to grab her face. I was like, oh my god. But quietly, because everyone else is asleep. It's up at the baby.

Yeah. It was screaming in first. Wow. First class baby. Rare.

A rare bird.

Screaming first class baby.

You can hear the other, the people who are used to being in first class who live there. Yeah. And that's their normal life there. Just like, is the baby leaving before we take out? Who's taking the baby away?

Is there a night nurse? Or a wet nurse? Somewhere to take the nice, making baby away. Maybe a white wet night nurse? A white nude nurse.

But not too many words that I just tried to say at once. Um, what was the other thing? How about the shirt? You got me. Oh.

Just today, you mean? Uh-huh. So then I walk now in Melbourne. Do do boo. Uh, I do have to admit we were in Auckland for 48 hours.

And I saw the inside of my hotel room. And then the inside of the theater that I was in. Well, I know it's not funny because it's like the most beautiful country on the planet. Oh, they don't want to hear that. And uh, yeah, it's here.

Oh, are they like, is this like the Dodgers versus the giant style total vicious?

Yeah.

Or the coast versus the middle of the country?

Oh, right. Red state, blue state. Uh-huh.

Is this some intense political shit I just stumbled into?

Uh-huh. Anyway, it's so ugly. I stayed inside. [laughter] Wow.

See that, cut it. [laughter] Oh, Steven's here. Oh, Steven's here. Come on.

See the way to the people.

Look at him. Look at him. [laughter] Say hi. Hello.

Here we go. Okay. Now, can we have that spotlight, Steven's going to sing a song. Really great. No, Mike.

Okay, Mike. Fine. [laughter] Somebody that-- [laughter]

You're making him sleep in someone else's car. [laughter] No, we're not. His own car. That was the most hilarious older sister movie we were like, come out here.

Get away. [laughter] And I can't even anyone's older sister. But I'm good at it. Pretty fun, right?

Yeah, and we have good training. She got me a shirt. There's a store that you guys have. It's like the best couple danger field. Danger field.

Yeah. But, uh, it's so cute. I got like a-- I got a scarf that's like flower print. And then there's just flying squirrels.

Let little ones all over it. And then one that's the same thing. But flying bats all over it. It's like this.

So you can come up with the ground bats.

[laughter] Shit, I meant-- Sorry. I meant bats and flying squirrels. Is that what I--

No, you got it. You got it. Okay. That's bats. And then you came back from the hotel.

Well, I-- I was in the store. I once she was showed me all these things. I'm like, now I have to go. So I'm--

[laughter] Because at every point somebody-- either Georgia or I-- has to be laying in their bed. Yeah.

So she--

She took her first shift and went out into the world.

Yeah. And then I stayed there eating blonde bonds. And then she came back and then when I went out to Dejafield and I was like-- I wish I was 30 years younger,

so I could wear some of these wonderful pigeon prints or whatever the hell is happening here. But I'm like, looking through-- There's so many kids. I got it.

You've tiny things. [laughter] Also, like, what size is a small or a medium? What size is a medium here? I don't know.

It's all small.

And the tiny shock girl was like, well, I'm an eight.

And I'm like, well, then I'm a fucking 40. [laughter] Because my god. You fucking bitch. Oh.

Anyhow. Um. No, but I'm going through these shirts. And everything I pull out has, like, a different, wonderful.

Like a koala with a gun or what that is. [laughter] Just great ideas everywhere. You know? You're a star.

You're a mascot. It's yellow with a gun. What you love? Um. Flip, flip, flip, pull out.

And there's a shirt. And it has a gray cat sticking out of a pocket wearing a booch girl looking mad. And I was just like-- [laughter]

So I took a picture of a son of Georgia, like, why didn't you buy this? [laughter] I was like, like, fuck you. I'm like, put it back.

Well, clearly I didn't see it. Yeah. So then she came back and not come a door. And I-- Uh, I brought it to her, but Georgia--

I don't know if you know this about her. But Georgia loves to be nude. Oh. [laughter] Yeah.

[laughter] It's a newter house dress in my, like, preferred form of being-- Yes. It's her state of being. It's fun.

My preferred state of being is slowly falling off of a tarot broken. For the rest of my land. [laughter] I do provide you like to be nude. It sounds so like purherty, but it's not--

It's not in a purherty, right? No, it's natural. [laughter] Yeah. So I answered the door naked.

[laughter] I like to use it as a joke. [laughter] She just like, what's up? [laughter]

Just like, here's your shirt. I wish I didn't get you now. [laughter] It was like-- [laughter]

It was fun. But this son of-- [laughter] With pants. It's fun to be.

It's fun to, like, people don't expect you just to be-- [laughter] What? You know, naked is funny. Um, it was funny.

It was funny. It was very funny. We know each other very well. Yeah.

Uh, here's what I was going to say.

So when we got here, um, when we were in Brisbane the first day, uh, well, one of the first-- So another person-- We're just going to-- You're talking about first class.

[laughter] We never happened to-- [laughter] We never happened to-- New one is to us.

Like, you guys would, too. We never happened to them. Yeah. And perhaps you do. If you ever go to the fucking first class wound--

Dude. They have all the stuff sitting out. That's, like, the nicest stuff to eat. Like, before you can get on the plane, they're, like, he don't--

We don't have to hang out with plebes.

Go upstairs. Get out. And they're poor. Don't eat burger. Can't come up here.

Yeah.

And so they have all these little--

[laughter] Jars. It's hungry. It's hungry, Jack. Oh, hungry, Jack.

It's hungry, Jack. [laughter] Wow. It's good stuff. [laughter]

So they had all these little jars. Of yogurt with musely mixed in, which is very foreign. And we don't have really that in the mar-- You have it, but it's, like, at whole foods, and it's for hippies, whatever.

She's talking about musely, not yogurt. You don't have yogurt with granola. Yeah. You guys have yogurt with musely. Yeah.

You guys have yogurt with musely. Yeah. And drive the-- Goap smoke yogurt served by the goat who gave you the milk. [laughter]

So charming. Dude. Dude, fruits tied in a ribbon. [laughter] Stuffed into your musely.

[laughter] So I was like, this is my new lifestyle. I'm just going to do musely and yogurt for us. My life and then we were joking around. We were like, oh, no, because then we--

Somebody gave us Tim Tams. And we were like, oh, shit. Yeah. Here's the dream. Because Tim Tams aren't clearly the perfect food.

Second only to musely and yogurt. [laughter]

And we were like, what if there was a Tim Tams murder?

That would be so amazing.

Either that's the weapon or it's, you know. The fight over. Yeah. Two people is the last box or whatever. Well, I'm looking on the internet.

Uh-oh. It'd be like to do. There has been a musely murder. What? Did you hear about that?

Just screaming this on me. Yeah. Oh, you did not-- I told you. When? Okay.

Listen to this. [laughter] Can you give us a second? The fucking owner of the musely-- No.

This is where do you-- The owner of a famous musely company. A 75 year old man. Uh-huh. Stabbed his business partner to death.

Do you know about this? [laughter] There's a murmur. Very recently. A murmur from the musely community.

[laughter] They had to shut their specific musely company down. I think it's called the musely company. Wow. Something like that.

Do you need to do it? That's so weird. And then the murder I did in Brisbane. Sorry.

The chick confessed because they gave her Tim Tams.

Remember? Oh, yeah, that's right. [laughter] I might have not been correct, but I saw it in one article. And I was like, "I'm going with that."

Yeah, of course. It says a mouse. This by the way is my favorite murder. Oh, yeah. Clearly.

[laughter] This is Georgia Hart. It's Georgia Hart. That's Karen Kilgara. I'm Karen.

Thank you. Thank you. [cheers and applause] Alright, tweet. Is it sift down time?

I think that's it. We've done everything we can. [cheers and applause] We've done everything we can. I'm scared to sit down.

[laughter] Do you want to switch chairs just in case? I mean, will it help? They do look okay. Just if I start to slide to the right.

[laughter] You there. Just stick your hand up. Just do one of these. Karen.

Because I can't do it again. You just put a lot on that poor girl is not going to enjoy the show now. It was like this. [laughter] I thought you were like a guest.

It's something I had said. [laughter] It was almost like a Michael Jackson kind of like, [laughter] But then I ended up on my ass.

I just want to make it clear that I did not just laugh at you and not try to help. You, I came for you to save you. I just had to be laughing the whole time. It was just so slow.

Also, I just knew you couldn't help me. At that point, I was beyond help.

It was like, oh, what here's the thing.

And we all know this. Once you've fallen public, like you can start to fall and you're like, and if you catch yourself, you can just walk away and you have some hot cheeks. But that's all right.

You hit the ground. It's over. You're fucking done. You're done for. You're the person that fell.

If on top of that, you're the girl that broke two legs of a chair. Good night, nurse. How am I here right now? It doesn't make sense. How are we doing?

How are we doing? How are you happy and meant? Yeah. I shouldn't put that in right before we left out of space. And we are back.

I have a really important question for you. Yes.

Do you still have that salt and pepper shakers that I stole?

Absolutely. You do? I brought them up to my dad's house because I was like, I will knock them off a counter and have them drop.

Yeah. So they're in my dad's kitchen up on. I literally see them every time I go to my dad's house. Because he's for some weird reason. I can't remember if we talked about this.

When we were there, he loves Australia. My parents went to Australia for a big trip. Yeah. And he was going to go again. And so I just, I brought them up and showed them to him.

And then was like, what if we just put these right there? Because they're like, sculpture. I know, they're like, it looks like the opera house.

I mean, it's salt and pepper.

They're like so good.

If they don't want those to get sold,

they shouldn't make them look so fucking cool. Yeah. They must have stolen them all the time. All the time. All the time.

And I bet they knew that I did. I probably wasn't like shell. I'd had four glasses of wine with dinner. I will say this. Yeah.

When you handed them off to me, you would. It was the kind of thing of like, you were acting out the thing. I was like, just steal them. Just steal them.

No, they'll know it was you.

You have to act like kind of person that's been in first class before.

Yeah. Stop, blah, blah, blah. And then when you did it, you just, it was such a secret hand off of hilarious. That's hilarious.

I was proud of Georgia from 2018. She did. Celebrate stuff. And she had some great moments. Also one of your greatest moments is how the way you helped me.

And or didn't help me as my chair fell apart and slow motion. I remember that exact moment. You were so slowly collapsing. Who is the weirdest? Because you weren't getting hurt.

Like, tell. No. But it was so funny. We didn't know. It was almost like we didn't know it was going on.

But then it was like, once I tipped past the point at the center, we can't like, ignore it anymore. It was just like, reaching. And your reach was like, classic. When your sister's like, hand me that thing.

And you're like, here. The chair was melting. Yes. It was. I didn't understand what was happening.

What? Why would someone duct tape a chair like that on? I expected that doesn't. It's on them. It's not even your embarrassment.

But also it became might as well been the theme of the entire tour. It was just like the funniest, weirdest experience. Even was there. That's also the show where someone gave us, like, that they left us presents after the show.

And I think someone accidentally gave us their makeup bag.

Like, because they have like a like a murder makeup bag. Yeah. And I think they accidentally, like, because I got their sunglasses out of it. We got a photo of myself in the sunglasses. Yep.

Yeah. Appreciate it. Let's appreciate it. We love appreciate it. Okay.

Now let's do your story, which is such a crazy story.

And I had never heard this one before.

I still can't believe that this is the first time I ever heard about this story. And then you did it live. Yeah. And that it's a very special episode because it's got our very first introduction to Paul Onion. To Mr. Paul Onion.

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Okay, I'm going to settle in. Guys, I decided to just go for it and pick one of the most famous serial killers in Australian history, I then Malat. Yeah! I can't even imagine that. I spit, hello.

Is he here? This is something like this. Titter, titter, titter, titter, titter, titter, titter, titter, titter, titter. I went to school with Ivan Malat's grandson. I worked with his nephew.

My mom used to be in the sit-office where this wife of the secretary turned out to be. We went all those people to email us by the way. Yeah, that's right. You had best.

Um, uh, that cheer, we always feel like we need to say for the people who are here for the first time with people who forced them to come.

That sure's never, yeah, the people who work here, people who've never listened to this podcast. We're not cheering for murder. No, we're not. I mean, it seems like we are, but I swear to God we're not. That's not what's happening.

I remember in Auckland when we were meeting people afterwards and these two girls came up and we hugged them and then I looked at the girl's face and I'm like, this is the first time you've heard the podcast.

Yeah. She was like, yeah. I could tell by her face because you were not happy to see us. You were a little nervous, but your friend was like, hey, you were like, hey, hey, you guys are scary. We're in a choir taste, yeah.

Like a cool people, like, uh, what's it called? Marmite. Yep. Vegemite. Vegemite.

Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Some girls do us, they gave us Vegemite and then they go, don't put it on like Nutella.

Yeah. Because I think that's from the steak. I'm like, it's disgusting. And it's like, well, you ate a fucking spoonful of it. You're not supposed to, like, eating a spoonful of mayonnaise.

You mean, like, yeah, it's gross. It's gross. Well, you fucking did it wrong. But I love the idea that, like, you put on everything like in Nutella. You're just like, we're all going through, like, like, I bet this is super delicious,

exactly like, Nutella no matter what, even though it smells like fucking nickels. I mean, what's up, Australia? Okay. I would like to say that my source is for learning all about Ivan Malat and the backpacker

Murders are a British show called Crimes that shook the world.

Congratulations. You shook the world.

A show called crime scene investigation, Australia, which is, yeah, it's really good,

except for on YouTube, it's ripped and it's so it's backwards.

It only takes up, like, a quarter of the bottom of the screen. And the audio is sped up. So as I watched it, I began to go insane. So I took the hit for you on that one. Oh, wow.

And then also a website just called news.com.au. Karen, your computer is on fire. Back at the hotel. It's all just Russian people in my computer. Wow, look at this.

Wow, she likes violence. So in the late '80s and early '90s, Georgia, I don't know if you know this. Let me know it. This was really my time when I was really at my prime. I hardly broke any chairs and I was doing all kinds of drugs and drinks.

Well, people who weren't total losers like me were backpacking all through Australia.

It became such a huge name because you could come to Australia cheaply. And then you could, you could on a shooting budget. You could backpack all throughout the gorgeous country. You could go to the gorgeous world famous beaches. And actually they started building youth hostels so that people could do this.

And it turned into a billion dollar industry of backpacking around Australia.

Wow, in this time. It all changed. On September 19th, 1992, two joggers who were running on a trail in Belangelo State Forest. Never run on a trail. Belangelo.

Oh, I added to me and they're sorry. Belangelo, I'm homesick. Belangelo State Forest. They're jogging on a trail and they smell something. No, so strongly that they know it could only be a dead body.

Wow.

So they go off the trail about 10 meters.

I don't know how far that is in America. Listen, we were busy shopping all day. We didn't have time to do commercial. I've been shopping and falling. Me too.

And so in the brush buried under some sticks and leaves, they find the body of Carolyn Clark. The police are called. They set up a search area in the next day in doing one of those walking searches where it's like 30 police officers. Armed to arm. They find the body of Joanne Walters.

She's found about 30 yards away. Okay, I'm going to go metric and American. All throughout this. Oh, I'm in there. What's up, yards?

Okay. So these two women had been missing for five months. They were both a young British student who had come separately to Australia.

They both were had always dreamed of coming here and backpacking here.

They both love traveling and they met at one of these. These hospitals and they had decided that they were going to spend the summer. Picking fruit to make money and then like finance their backpacking around. Around Australia. So in April, after they had kind of done all that, they had decided to hitchhike back to Melbourne.

And that was the last time anyone saw them alive. The police determined that Carolyn had a sweater tied around her head. She'd been raped and shot in the head 10 times. She had been raped and she had been stabbed 14 times. Both of the women were bound.

And they had found Winchester cartridge cases near the bodies. So yeah, they're all quiet. Okay, but other than what I just named, there was almost no evidence that they could find. And so essentially the case went cold. And so a man who lived nearby and who knew that forest really well as name was Bruce prior.

And he had kept checking the newspaper to see if any other stories would come up about these two bodies that had been found there. And he didn't see any. And so he decided since he knew the forest so well, he was just going to start going out and looking to see if there was anything else to be found. So for the next nine months. He searched around 1,000 meters of forest.

And then one day he spots a human skull. It's upside down in the dirt. He picks it up. Oh. He didn't know it was 90s.

He brings it to the police. And so he had good intentions.

It don't.

He meant well. At least he didn't use his an ash tray. Yeah. That's during a couple months.

Or he didn't go like, I was right and throw it back down on that.

Shows. Shows. This will show them.

So basically the police were like holy fuck and they come out and they set up a perimeter and they start searching the area.

And then a second body is found. Well, that would this is actually a fourth body is found 22 meters away from where that skull had been in the ground. So these are the remains of James Gibson and Deborah Everest. They were two students who grew up in Melbourne. They decided that they were going to hitchhike together to a music festival in Aubrey.

And they had both been missing for four years. James's bones had been marked with multiple stab wounds. Deborah had been found. She was savagely beaten. She had a lot of broken bones in her face.

And she had been stabbed. Their bodies were 600 meters from where Carolyn and Joanne had been found. So now the police set up a task force of 300 police officers. And they start combing the entire forest. So relatively soon after that, they find the remains of German tourists.

Simone Schmidtle. She disappeared while she was hiking from Sydney to Melbourne on January 20th, 1991. And they determined that she based on the marks. And this is how it happened with a lot of these remains because there was so little of them left. That they just had to count the stab wounds on the bones.

So they knew she had been stabbed minimum eight times. After her body was found, the police made an official statement that they had a serial killer on their hands. And that statement, of course, makes international news because Simone Schmidtle was German.

The first two women were British, it just goes everywhere that now hitchhikers are going missing.

And then bodies are being discovered. Well, up in Birmingham, England, a man with my favorite name in the world, Paul onions. Oh my God. Come on. Dude.

To go find him. I mean, I have to make him mine. You don't know me and I just certainly don't know you. Karen onions. Mrs. Paul onions.

Wow. So Paul onions, right? He gets the paper and he sees the story and he fucking freaks out. Because four years earlier, he had a very interesting experience. Very near the Belangelo National Forest.

Belangelo? It's really scary for this podcast saying whenever you say the place, you get this like scared feeling. Because you just are waiting for a screen. Imagine that.

That's why we have started our new program, spell it like you say.

Yeah. Fuck yeah. We just, it would help us so much. If people would just fucking start spelling things phonetically. Yep.

And stopping assholes. Okay. So here's the thing. There's a hotline number in the article that he's reading. So he calls up and he's like, hey, I'd like to give an official statement.

Because here's what's happened to me four years ago.

He's hitchhiking. He was hitchhiking. He was in Liverpool. But in Australia. He was.

And he's trying to hitchhike a thousand kilometers back to Melbourne. And he meets, he's like trying all day. He finally meets a guy named Bill who's super nice and cool. And Bill's like, oh, hey, are you trying to hitchhike where you going? And Paul onions is like, I'm trying to get to Melbourne.

And he's like, so my jump in my big old truck. Listen onions. Do you think we call him onions? He was like, hey, I'm looming onion. Yeah.

And that's how the outback steak house was born.

Sorry about that. So sorry. We don't go there. No. Um, okay.

So they're in this truck. This is so fucked up. You know that I don't know. I don't know. You don't know that they're in Bill's truck.

Okay. And they're driving for a while. And then Bill's like, oh, hey, I can't do it. I want to do it so bad. And I can't do it.

My tomorrow night will have learned. Yeah. I have to watch more TV. Um, I tried to make a joke about how people hear, say, the word Snicks instead of Snacks. And I tweeted it.

And then all these people are like, that's a Kiwi accent. And I was like, well, here's an American accent. Go suck yourself. Seriously. Oh, I can't do this.

It sounds like Snicks to me.

It's just fun if someone goes, but you'd like any Snicks?

Yes.

I would like 1,000 Snicks.

I mean, I'd want them even if they were Snicks.

But now I want them for sure. I want them more because they're Snicks. Okay. Snicks, man. Let's focus.

Yeah. Guys, there's so many pages left. Okay. Here's the thing. They're sitting in the truck.

He's like, we're about to-- there's going to be no more radio signal. So I'm going to pull over here and I'm going to go in the back and get some tapes. Because it's the late '80s early '90s. And pull onions. It's like, that's cool, man.

Because he's so chill. I'm like, yeah. And so he goes to open his door to stretch his legs and Bill suddenly gets real rude. And it's like, stay where you are, put your seatbelt on. And Paul onions, it's like, hey, man, I just wanted to stretch my legs.

He's like, stay there. So then he shuts the door and he's sitting there and he looks down. Mm-hmm. There's a whole bunch of tapes right there in the console between. And he's like, oh.

This isn't good. Maybe he just wanted 1,000 maniacs. [ Laughter ] 10,000. Thank you.

Well, back then, they were only a thousand.

[ Laughter ] That's when you like them. They were only a thousand. Oh, no, that's scary. Okay.

Yes. So he's like, that -- just when I was watching whatever one of those backwards-fucked episodes was watching, that idea that you'd be sitting there and be like, okay.

Like, that thing where the first thing a person does that's weird.

But you're like, oh, okay. I guess I'm still going to sit here because I don't want -- I don't want to be rude. Mm-hmm. To the super weirdo who's yelling at me? I was with the blue.

We're doing a super normal thing, like, open a card door. Oh, no. It's hard to wear. It's bad sign. And then it's like, all right.

Well, bills -- bills pretty cool. I -- Oh, yeah. And just like, the stomach drop. Yeah. Right is all that's happening.

The driver's side door flies open. Bill comes in and goes, "You know what this is?" And he's holding you on. Oh. Just tear two fingers?

No, I think that's it. Yeah. It's a -- yeah. It's a pretend gun. Yeah.

It was a real gun.

He's holding a real gun on my blessed and beloved polo.

Yeah. What a stupid thing to say, too. Do you know what this is? Yeah. Like, just say, "I have a gut leak."

Yes. I mean, what do they think is like, "No?" Yeah. I don't recognize that. I have a strange brain disease.

Right. All right. I recognize things. I'm a pacifist. I don't recognize you or what then.

I just -- those don't exist to me. Yeah. [ Laughter ] I don't see weapons. Yeah.

And many fixes pieces. So he has really long hair. He has really long hair. He has this kind of blonde hair. Like, in hair.

Yeah. [ Laughter ] What a thick. He's turning it on asshole. Okay.

But the ironic part is, Paul onions does not have body odor. And that's why I love him. The most. God, he got teased so much for the -- you know it. No, he smells like delicious flowers.

Do we have a picture of onions? That's Paul onions, no. [ Laughter ] There's only a picture of the reenactor. Oh.

And that's not the main thing. He's beautiful for eyes. He's beautiful to have his picture taken. So, right? Bill's like, "Do you know what this is?"

Paul's like, "I sure fucking do know what that is." And jumps out of the truck. Girl. Bill starts shooting at him. And he runs up the highway away from the truck.

And luckily, a driver pulls over and lets beautiful Paul onions into his car and drives away. Yeah. Thank God. Thank God.

So, this hole was a phone call on the hotline. It took him two hours to tell that story. I forgot that part. So, that statement is taken. He hangs up and doesn't hair back.

Because when they set this hotline up,

what they didn't realize is that in the first 24 hours of this hotline,

they got 1,000 pieces of evidence. People were calling in all over the place with all kinds of stories. And the police were completely inundated and were not prepared to process that much information. So, meanwhile, while they're trying to set up hotlines

and get the word out and do all of that, they're still searching the Belangolo National Forest. You're mad at them, right? I am mad. I'm more in a fight.

It'll be fine by the time this is over. But this is the drama of the story. Okay. So, as they are searching, they find the remains of German students

on your Hobschneed and Gebäuer. They had left for a winter holiday. They'd gone to Bali. In 1991, and they had decided like in around December, she had finished up her school.

She was on winter break. They decided to go to Bali. And then when they were done with their time in Bali, they were like, "Let's hop on over to Australia and go to Bondi Beach."

So, they spent Christmas on Bondi.

It's Bondi now. Okay. What is it, bandi? Bondi. Bondi.

It's Snicks. Can we Snicks Beach? Okay. Snicks Beach. The world's famous Snicks Snack Beach.

They're, they're due home in January of 1992.

They never make it home. So, when they process the bodies, they find that Gebäuer had been shot in the head six times. Onya had been to capitated, and her head was not found. But the police did find forty-seven cartridge cases

at the scene, and they were able to match those cartridge cases to the ones found near Carolyn Clark's body. So, up now, seven bodies have been found in the Belangolo National Forest. So, the police got a forensic psychiatrist

to make a profile of this killer. Love the shit. Right? And based on the location, based on the violence,

based on the weapons,

based on everything he basically says.

This killer would have grown up or worked in the area of this forest. He would have had past colonel behavior. He would have shot guns with his family. He would have a big family that would have insulated him and separated him from the rest of society.

And he would have had major control issues and been a real macho type.

And as they're talking about all of that, the police are like, "We know guy like that." And we know family like that. Oh, fuck. It's Ivan Molot.

Wow, they were just like, "Oh, we know this dude." Yeah. So, they had been a kind of a family that was well known in the area, maybe we say it like that. And they were, they had made a name for themselves.

Where they lived. So Ivan Molot was a road worker. He spent most of the '60s in jail. He loved guns. He had a four-wheel drive truck.

He had 13 brothers and sisters. Holy shit. Uh-huh. When they interviewed his neighbors, they said that he was friendly out going.

He was always washing his truck or tending to his garden.

Right. And... Oh, my gosh.

Some guy in the audience are some chicks.

I did the same thing. Murderer. I heard somebody just go... Murderer. Immediately.

They're eating out. Fucking murderer. Loves to garden. We know your type. So, all of his neighbors are like,

"We really like him. He's friendly." But they go to interview his ex-wife. And she's like, "Yeah, yeah." You want to talk about Ivan Molot?

Well, he was married to a woman in Karen Duck.

Who he married once. She was a teenager. Karen. Duck. [laughter]

She described Ivan Molot as a brutal controlling husband. And she was gun-crazy. Are he bummed that you laughed at her now? Yeah. She says that he often took her to a pine plantation

to the Blango National Forest and to the genolin caves, which are, I guess, a tourist attraction. Thank you so much, Mom. My mom's here. Everybody.

What? [laughter] That sounded like an American accent. Typical. [laughter]

So, they start then with all of these things kind of lining up. They start looking into Ivan's early police record. And they find that he was convicted of an eerily similar case in 1971. An April, good Friday, 1971. He picked up two hitchhikers near a Liverpool translation.

He pulled a knife on them, bound them, gagged them, told them if they screamed. He would kill them. He took them into the forest and raped them both and put them back into the car. And one of them convinces him to pull over so they can get a drink at a gas station. And he lets them.

And she gets out of the car. They both get out of the car and go into the gas station and get in there like, you fucking guys help us. And everybody gets them. And then they go after him. He got away, but eventually he was arrested.

He was facing, don't clap yet. He was facing on the house. Two counts of rape and robbery. And what he does was he faked his own death. What's by yes?

He left his shoes at a renowned Sydney suicide spot called The Gap.

Which I used to work at The Gap.

You worked at a suicide spot? It's not that bad. Oh, sorry, I stepped on you. No, no, it's okay. I think it worked.

I think you built it. Okay.

So anyway, he escapes to the place we all hate so much.

New Zealand. But he returned to 1974 because his mother had a heart attack and she was hospitalized. And so they re-arrest him then. Yeah.

They had arrested him the first time.

But then he, of course, faked his own death at the Gap. He bought his sweater. Faked his death. Yeah. Left him.

Left his shoes in the changing room. Yeah. They were just like, oh, no, I guess he's gone forever. Go back to folding these sweaters. Have I ever told you my sweater folding story?

I don't think so. This one is a little bit classic and it's worth me stopping this horrible tail. I used to work at The Gap for real in San Francisco. It was my first real job and it was also when I was really also working very hard of being just a dedicated alcoholic.

And so the day after Halloween, where my friend and I went dressed up as two people who worked at the land comb counter. [laughter] No, not dressed as right now. Yes, exactly. We just went out on our black clothes and my friend got to land comb name tags for us.

It was pretty rad. And then we just got beyond shit face. The next day was a full-down day. You've ever worked retail or worked at The Gap.

You know, the full-downs, you have to go into work like four hours early

and literally refold the entire store. Every single item of the store is refolded with a board so it all looks perfect. Just to break your soul. Just because they're like, hey, you were paying you six dollars an hour. Why don't you earn it?

Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. So we went in. We woke up.

We were supposed to be there at seven in the morning. We woke up at eight, 15 to the call of our manager being like, you fucking assholes get down here. But luckily we lived one block away. [laughter] And so we like, in our land comb outfit.

Oh my God. We go in. We start folding.

I have the back wall and it's all never forget.

Because every time I see these sweaters like it a thrift store, I'm like, here it is. It's one of these sweaters. It's a Gap sweater from 1991. I'm folding down this wall of sweaters and so hung over.

Like, it's just a little drunk. It's funny because she doesn't drink anymore. That's right. So you can just, I've never killed anyone with a car or gone to jail. So let's celebrate my alcoholism.

I fold down a line of this whole wall of sweaters. I get to the bottom of the first row and then I just lay down and fall asleep on the ground. [laughter] And my manager, Colleen, came up and she's like, go home. Oh my, Colleen.

Colleen, she ate it and abetted my alcoholism. All right. [laughter] Where are we? [laughter]

He's re-rested, but he is acquitted of both the rape and robbery charges, because there was not enough evidence. All right. So I know. She checks her, like, how about this evidence?

I am. How about my evidence? One, an evidence too. So the police go to speak to the rest of the malot family. And the interview is Brother Alex and his brother Alex is wife.

And they talk to them for over an hour. It's just, they're not getting much. The police get up to leave. And Alex's wife goes, "Oh, hold on." And she goes and gets a backpack.

And hands up to them and goes, "He gave us this as a gift." "Oh, could you have blood with that honey?" [laughter] I guess there are some issues. She was having some problems.

The police take it and find out that the backpack that she gave them, that I've been gave to them, belonged to Simone Schmittel, the German backpacker.

So, then, simultaneously, at least that's how it seemed

on these shows that I was walking. [laughter] They go through, they're going through all the statements

that they'd gotten in the first, you know, month of the hotline.

And they find beautiful Paul Onion statement. Oh, my God. From all the way up and Birmingham. And so, they call him back. And they find out that his story is real.

They actually have the Birmingham police interview him to make sure that he's not some nutcase. They end up flying him down to Australia. And Paul Onion's identifies Ivan Malat. In a lineup.

And so, the police can now arrest Ivan Malat for the attack of Paul Onion. So, on May 22, 1994, six a.m. the police surrounded Malat home.

It's really funny in the reenact,

but they called him on the phone.

We're like, "Hey, can you come outside for a second?"

[laughter] They did, and then he was down on his perfectly manicured lawn. Wow. Face first. He's like, "Scarming."

That's right. He likes things just so. When the police enter his home, they immediately start finding trophies from all of these murders. There's all this camping equipment. There are all kinds of personal belongings,

just everywhere. The police are identifying them as they look around the house. And they also find rifles, ammunition, hunting knives, and a sword. And then hidden inside a wall in a plastic bag, they find pieces of a ruger 22 rifle.

And when the ballistics expert reassembles those pieces, test fires it. It matches the bullets used to kill Carolyn Clark.

So Ivan Malat is charged with the murders of all seven victims.

And on July 27, 1996, following a 15-week trial, the jury returned after three days and found him guilty on all charges. He was sentenced to six years imprisonment for the attack

on the most beautiful man in the world, Paul onions.

And seven consecutive life sentences for each of the murders of the backpackers. When asked if he had any comment, he protested his innocence. He said he didn't do anything for sure. But his younger brother Richard told the police

that they were "heaps more bodies" out there to be found. And there are. There are 11 other unsolved missing person's cases that are extremely similar to the backpacker murders going all the way back to February of 1971.

So I'm just going to go through these real quick. Carolyn Rowland was driving behind her sister. They were driving up to a hotel in Canberra, when-- She had--

No, I'm kidding. Vanessa? She's asking her friend who's-- Canberra. Canberra.

Canberra? OK. Just really quick. Just a suggestion. How about you spell it?

C-A-N-B-R-A. Oh! OK. I'm not mad at you. I'm not mad at you at all.

OK. This is so creepy. The two sisters take two separate cars. Why? It's not as fun.

[LAUGHTER] They must have had work or something. It makes me so mad when I read that. I was like, what? What?

Her-- They're driving. Her sister loses sight. No, no. Of Karen.

In the rear view mirror, her car just isn't there anymore. She continues on to the hotel. And then when she gets there, Karen isn't there. And she thinks, maybe she went back home. She doesn't understand what happened.

So they search. They find the car with an empty gas tank on the side of the road. Oh, she ran out of gas. Yeah. And she ran out of gas.

And then 15 meters off of the trail in the Farber and Pine plantation. They find her body. She was lying on her back. Legs straight out. Her arms and circling her head.

Clothing pulled down indicating sexual assault. Beer bottle was found nearby. So in June of 1972, Robin Hoyneville Bartrom and Anita Cunningham. 19 and 20, respectively. They were student nurses.

They were roommates. They were going to plant. They were going to spend the summer hitchhiking around Northern Queensland. They set off from Melbourne on the way to Bowen. And they're really scared.

They were never seen again.

In November, Robin's body is found under a bridge in sensible Creek. She was shot in the head with a 22. Anita's body was never found. Hi. A woman told police that she and her mother had shattered with those girls at a hotel that

July. And the girls told her they'd gotten a ride. With a man named Cowboy.

Stephen, do you have that one picture of Ivan Malat?

Oh, no. Oh, no. It's actually very infashion now. What is it? Okay.

Friday, October 5, 1972. Gabrielle Janky and Michelle Riley. Decided to hitchhike from Brisbane to check out a party on the gold coast. A week later, Gabrielle's body is found at the bottom of a steep embankment on the side of Pacific Highway at Ormule. 10 days later, at 6 p.m. on October 23.

Michelle's body is found 12 meters from the road in the bushland off of the Mount Tambourine Highway. They both had massive head injuries from fractured skulls. And both of their clothes were pulled up. And branches had been covering their bodies. On October 30, 1978, 20 year old Leanne Goodall was dropped off by her brother Warren.

At the muscle-willed brook train station. Warren thought she was taking the train back to Sydney.

In fact, she decided to go to Swansea.

Swansea near Newcastle to see her parents.

She got off the train in Broadmeto in central Newcastle.

Someone spotted her at 330 that afternoon at the star hotel.

She was never seen alive again.

Her remains were never found. Robin Hickey, four months after Leanne Goodall's disappearance. 18 year old Robin Hickey leaves her family home in Swansea to meet friends at the Belmont Hotel. South of Newcastle, she's never seen again. Amanda Robinson is a 14 year old girl who vanishes on her way home.

Two swansea from a school dance. Ivan Malat was named as a person of interest in all three of those disappearance cases. He was working a road crew at the time. But there was not enough evidence to arrest him. And then there's, I mean, look at this.

There's three more pages of people who had the exact. It's the exact same emo. He's always 15 meters off the trail back in the bush. The same area, generally. The same age.

It's girls that he meets at hotels.

There's always a witness.

But it's in a same like general area, kind of too.

Yeah. It's, it's along the old coast, right? They're not sure either. I mean, you guys fucking want that. I mean, but it's, it's basically, the, the, the, the eastern coastal side.

Yeah. And all, because basically, this, this I did look up on Google Maps. It, it takes like seven hours and 37 minutes or something to drive from Melbourne to the, the Blang, the low national forest. And so that thanks.

So that's like the, that's basically the area that he was working in. And he was a road worker. He also delivered tires, truck tires.

Who he was always, he was always on the road.

And he was always leaving work and coming back. Where, and like having people cover for him and stuff. He's now really quick. Sorry. I mean, those are just like, there's, there's six more people who have the exact same

M.O. in their dead. There's 58 total of missing people. Oh my God. Who there, there's pieces of, of their murder details or their murder that can be related to Ivan Watt.

But because he will not admit to anything and never has. They can't get him on anything or prove anything. And if their families, you know, have no, have no satisfaction. They just don't get to know. So he's in jail, right?

And he decides to cut off. He's 73 now. He's still in jail. He's in the super max. He's going to be there for the rest of his life.

In 2009, he cuts off his little finger with a plastic knife. Oh, what? And the people in the jail decide they're not going to reattach. I mean, isn't fucking needed. I interpret.

I'm sure there was like a medical reason and a whole decision. But in my mind, I just like they're like, no, you did that to yourself. He had previously injured himself by swallowing razor blades, staples and other metal objects. He went on a hunger strike because he wanted a playstation.

Oh, no. That was in 2011. And now his in 2012, his great nephew Matthew Malot and his friend, Cohen Klein, who were 19 when they were sentenced. They were arrested for murdering David Archerlone on his 17th birthday

with an axe in the Blangalo State National Forest. And he, Matthew killed him and his friend taped it on the phone. Recorded him on the phone. That's how they got caught. Oh, my God.

They were sentenced. Matthew sentenced to 43 years in prison and Cohen was sentenced to 32 years in prison. And now I'm seeing this thing, too. May 15, his older brother Boris told Dr. Steve Apern that Malot was responsible for another shooting in 1962.

He shot a cab driver in the back because he wanted to rob him and ended up paralyzing him. And that's a, they were just doing a special about that on TV recently. And now my friend is the story of Ivan Malot, the backpacker by Malot. That, you know, that's so long.

That's what he looked like while he was cutting his pinkie off.

He's like, come on, I want to play station. I'm only the worst fucking person in the world. I don't know what that one. Yeah, it's so nice. I mean, you just can't help it.

But I don't want to bully shame, but they're like, why didn't this, my,

Oh, oh, I didn't know that.

I'm not sure why I didn't even give you a look.

I didn't even give you an old, I'm going to pick up my glasses. She was like, she's policehip. I mean, again, I'm getting sick of it. This is a walkout. It's just the people, like, why didn't they figure, oh, put it together.

But they were, the bodies weren't even found. I mean, it was just missing and no details whatsoever. Yeah, plus this whole thing of, you know, the old school, like, like, mindset of like, well, if we start saying all these backpackers are missing,

the tourist trade's going to fucking that side. Yeah, exactly right. Maybe it's that these new cops came in and we're like, yeah, but we can't let people disappear.

Well, I think the second they started finding bodies,

that was all over. Yeah, they shut it down. Yeah, hopefully. Yeah. Well, no, that's what happened.

Yeah, but yeah. Hopefully. Yeah. It's literally what happened. I just fucking told you.

I watched three specials about it. I'm an expert. I was such a-- In your face, then put it in your mouth. I've never seen anyone.

Like, dang. That was final word. Mint. Oh, no, she's been dementia now. Can't tell you.

The mint's in. OK, we are back from a very heavy story. Yeah. Do you have updates? I do, actually.

In 2019, I've been malot died in prison.

He was 74. And it was five months after he was diagnosed with terminal, esophageal, and stomach cancer. Wow. Yeah.

His nephew, alisters, shipsea, maintain. So that I've been malot was framed for these murders. And the disuncle's arrest happened. So Sydney. Would you like this?

Yeah. And the disuncle's arrest happened. So Sydney would have a clear run to securing the 2000 Olympics. Can you describe my face right now? Your pants have a lot of doubt.

A lot of skepticism. Some Botox, so you can't see it. Because I'm not the full illustration. Exactly.

But what an amazing forehead you have.

Yeah. Well, we will say this. He spent 10 years this nephew researching the murders. He published a book, "Secrets of Belanglo". Claiming this is the only true story of Ivan Malot.

But also, as we started this episode when we were talking about, it's like, this is one of those true crime stories. It's so awful. Like I remember so many details. Totally.

Totally. Yeah. To get past those details and think that, yeah. It was a setup doesn't seem. Not super likely.

Yeah. At the same time in 2021, a four part docu series called Ivan Malot, Backpack or Murderer was released and that explored the idea that Malot could have had 20 additional victims. Wow.

So I want to watch that. Yeah. So let's get into your story now about the Brown Out Strangler Edward Joseph Lonsky. Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police.

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when we went to Auckland, we were just like, "Well, we have two murders to choose from, so I guess I'll take this one and you take that one."

Yeah. Not here. Not the case whatsoever. You guys, there's a reason we're going to be here for three nights,

and a row. Not because we want to see us. But because we just couldn't pick, one, the government's making us to all the murders.

Yeah. Yeah, we're doing it to social service. You're welcome. Yep. All right.

Well, this one,

this is the story of the only American man

ever executed on Australian soil. It's the blackout straingler. Oh. Right, right, right, right. It's the correct.

All right. Hi to World War II. Well, Melvin was sending soldiers overseas to fight. They're like heroes in shit, and there's a brownout in order.

So a brownout just means that like, there's a reduced availability of electrical power, so like at night, street lamps and car lights, they're all like lowered,

so the Japanese fighters can't bomb a shit out of you guys. They're like, "I don't see anything. Let's get out of here." Instead of being like,

"Look at all those beautiful lights of Melvin, which is like a thing, you know?" They're known for their life. They're known for their lives. Like, I'm going to be calling you guys the city of light.

[laughter] Oh, I've heard of that. Yeah. Okay, so also a lot of employees, employers were letting young women leave in daylight,

so they could get home safely before dark, because, you know, dark. But, so a lot of U.S. soldiers were stationed in Melvin after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

So always make shit camps for American soldiers

or popping up. And, excuse me, I forgot my tissue. I shouldn't have told you guys that. Here. Realize that now. Just think that shit.

I don't want to do it that. Oh, my goodness. What's with that bottle count? It's great. My nose.

Like, I was like, I mean, just dip it in. And release. [laughter]

Okay.

There, there, there, there, there, there.

There house and military establishments called CampPell today. It's known as Rail Park. May 3rd, 1942. Do you get ones like Rail Park?

[laughter] Rail Park. Oh. [laughter] Sorry.

[laughter] Hmm. I just audienceed you. Essentially. [laughter]

Rail. [laughter] Rail. May 3rd, 1942.

Four-year-old Ivy Violet McLeod was waiting for her tram.

Can you see I copied and pasted this from Australian articles. Waiting for her tram.

And on Victoria Avenue, an Albert Parker, I'm two A.M.

When she's attacked. You would. And she's attacked. Yes. I got to do it.

Right away, if we're going to do it. Okay. Her body was found by a hotel cleaner who was hosting down the footpath outside a hotel. And she saw an American soldier get up from a stupid position

in a nearby shop doorway. He was going to run after him but decided to try to help the woman but it was too late. Ivy was dead. She was partially naked, badly beaten and strangled.

Her purse was still in the area. So it was obvious that robbery wasn't emotive. And witnesses said that they had seen her in the company of a US soldier late the previous night. And she said, "Oh, my God.

You're an angel. There's tissues happening. Oh, no, she has a knife. What if she didn't give these to me? What if she just took the tissues?

She was just like, you should buy some of these.

Thank you so much. This has happened before. Security. That's every shirt that was a danger field today. It's so good.

It's so true. It's so true. I think of it. I'm just like, Karen, for real. So that's Ivy McLeod.

So she is killed. Sorry. Sorry. I need you to look like a week later. Let me bum you guys out more.

A week later, 31 year old Pauline Thompson. She's a photographer. She's married to police men. Her mother, too. She strikes a conversation with American soldier at a restaurant.

They go to a bar after dinner, to talk, and they spend several hours talking and drinking. The next morning, she's found lying on the steps of her spring street home. Her clothes aren't cattards. Okay, so there's a photo of her. This is Pauline Thompson.

Okay, ready for this creepy thing. Torian first, police created a photograph, police created a mannequin, dressed in her clothes, and put a photograph over her face, hoping that a witness would come forward, Stephen. Put that nightmare up. What?

That's what that is. Yep. Look at her hands. It's mannequin hands. Holy fuck.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, that's what we're in it for, right?

Yeah. How are you? Yeah, yeah. Creepy. Hands.

Look at the hands. Did it. Did I really tell you the story about when I was a little when I was at the store with my dad? He's like, "Just don't touch anything." Yeah, right.

Which I could never do is like five.

No, you're a child. Who child and he would always take me to like hardware stores. This stuff that didn't have candy or toys or anything good. Yeah. And I remember you went to get something.

And I just walked up. There was a mannequin wearing like a, like a, Like a mechanics general. And I was just, I just went, like, Oh, no.

My finger ET style touched the mannequin's hand. And the whole arm came off of me. And then I was just alone holding a mannequin arm. Like shit. Do I shove it back up?

Or am I? And my dad came around the court. He's like, "Jazes, cries." Karim, you shouldn't be allowed in retail stores anymore. You're real proud of you, but then you,

then you laid on the floor and fell asleep. That's right. I was so drunk. The drunk is five year old ever. Okay, so they did that horribleness.

Yes, I don't want to turn back around. Or mannequin. Good night, everyone. Have sweet dreams tonight. Wait, did it work though?

No. No. But, you know, people were like, well, we saw her with an American soldier that I'm before. So, but I don't know if any of it came directly from that.

It just gave a lot of people nightmares. So, shortly after this, a 20, an American soldier admits to another soldier that he had killed two women. This dude's name is Edward Joseph Linowski.

Yeah, and he's 24 years old.

He's a former New York grocery store.

He had broad shoulders and strong hands.

And they had said by the, by the looks of the way the guy

had strangled women that he had large hands. I was like, one of the things they said about him. He was well-liked by most who knew him. Although, other American soldiers reported that he liked to drink heavily.

And then when he did, he became particularly aggressive, especially towards women. A file described him as the soldier from how. And he earned that notation after he attempted to strangle a young woman in San Antonio, Texas.

He was caught charged with assault, but never prosecuted.

Instead, the US Army was like, "Send him to Melbourne." Sorry, guys. Sorry about that. So, he arrived on February 2nd, 1942. And that first murder happened on May 3rd of that year.

Wow. Yeah. So, he told his bro that I killed two women. His bro was like, "Turn yourself in, say your claim in San Antonio." And where it's like, "Nope."

And the soldier's like, "Okay." And like, didn't turn him in. So, again, apologies, Melvin.

It's like, "Well, I gave you the one suggestion I have."

Yeah. So, I got for it. I don't know what else could be done. I guess I'll see you in the mess tent. Yeah.

All right. So, the final victim.

Oh, let me show you a photo of this dude, Edward.

Hey. That's him. Yeah. They said that he was a total alcoholic. And a lot of people like he was super fun.

And a lot of people like he attacked women. But the one who said he was super fun. One of the things they said he would do is like, "Get your super drunk and then get up on the bar and walk across the bar at his hands." No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Like, if you were here one style, but on your hands. Look at that crazy son of a bitch. Yeah. His forehead is so low. It's tiny.

It's too small. It's small more now. It's someone with a three head. I would like to say his is a one and a half head. That's true.

It barely is there. Yeah.

Or is it just that dumb hair?

It looks like both. Okay. I'm going to go both. My mom is final victim. A 40 year old Gladys husking on May 18th while walking home from work in the chemistry lab at the University of Melbourne, which is like, "What about us?"

She is caught in the rain. An American soldier offered to shelter her under an umbrella he was carrying. It's our old friend Edward. Yeah. He attacks her.

He strangles her and she's found inside the royal park boundary not far from campheau. Just 350 meters from her boarding house. And just over two weeks from May 3 to May 18th, 1942, three women had been killed by him. So the murderer becomes known as the Brown Out Strangler because it's throwing a brownout and he strangles people. I didn't need to explain that part.

Stephen cut that out. It was actually a symbolic of something else. But you would understand.

The soldier's brownouts, that's what they call it.

Because they were a total bummer. Yeah. I know it's fucking brownout back there. Oh, anyway, just lick the microphone on the next one. Does anyone have any hydrochloric acid?

Or are some going to drink it? No, Australian soldier, oh, God, that was disgusting. No, Australian soldier, total police. Okay, so Gladys gets killed. Australian soldier tells police.

He's not a U.S. officer. Slipping under the royal park fence on the night of the murder. He shines at torch. That's not what we call flashlight. So clearly I copied and pasted that.

And in the guy's face, it was Almighty. He asked him why he's covered head to foot in yellow mud. He's covered head to foot in yellow mud. Which is like, was it that? No.

No. It's mud. It was just yellow. No. Because it's what time?

I don't know. Because there's a brownout. So there's not enough brown to go into the mud. The hell. Let's got to be it.

And yellow mud. I don't know. I didn't look that part up. Okay. I didn't even look out what meters means.

So clearly I was shopping all day. Okay. So the dude says, I fell over and a pool of mud going across the park. That's like his excuse. And I was like, okay.

Go ahead. They were good with it. Right. The description of this soldier though matches the individual. Pauline Thompson was seen with the night of her murder.

Well, the description given by several women who had also survived recent att...

So I guess he's been fucking attacking women all over town.

People had been surviving. Yeah. So after days at camp held, they're going from fucking soldier to soldier being like, "Are you a murder or are you a murder or like interviewing people?" Um, I guess.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. They could actually do it. Oh, I got that saw.

They did it. Could have been. Police.

Dude, I think we have a photo of Gladys actually, did I already? Yeah, there she is.

Oh, right? Look at that outfit. That's not white. Oh, but okay. Okay.

So they were fucking soldier to soldier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Police investors get to Edward Monoski's tent.

And they yellow clay matching the crime scene is found on his tent. His shoes and his bed. So he's just flailing. He'll fall over the fucking place. Apparently.

So yellow, I hate yellow. This, okay. Then, okay. So he's arrested, charged with the murders. Behind bars, he confesses to fucking everything.

Um, he tells investigators that he is a doctor, Dr. Jekyll, and Mr. Hyde. And his motives for the killings was a fascination with female voices, especially when they were singing. What? Yeah.

Creepy. So all those women had been singing? Well, he says he claims that he killed women to get at their voices. Quote. Oh, no, no.

Kind of like a little mermaid thing? Yeah.

He was a fucking original sewage.

He just... See which. Yeah. He wanted to... Yeah, that guy's fucking stupid.

Yeah. Crazy, too. Yeah. Yeah.

So he said about a second victim, Pauline Thompson.

He said she was singing in my ear. It sounded as if she was singing for me. She had a nice voice. I grabbed her. I don't know why.

She stopped singing. Oh, no. Well, because you grabbed her. [ Laughter ] Sucking idiot.

Then the investigator was like, "Come on, I am going to go to the gap." See you guys later. Can you imagine hearing that? Saying someone sang that to you.

OK. According to a psychologist who interviewed and were during his trial, he grew up in an abusive alcoholic family. And one of his brothers had been committed to a mental institution for life. His mother had been overprotective and controlling.

And I bet she fucking sang a lot. I bet. You know what I mean? Yeah. I didn't say that, but it's like, well, clearly.

Yeah.

That's my -- that's the profile of this murder.

You've profiled it. His mom sang a lot. Yeah. But she was like, "That's right. That's just the most horrible sound of all time."

So essentially, I could show you right now with that sound. Like, by just singing. She put him into bed and she'd be like, "All right." [ Laughter ] [ Laughter ]

Sweet dreams! And here in the corners, mannequin, with my face taped on it. Night and word. Night and word. I'm going to go be an alcoholic, which is also what she was.

[ Laughter ] She was overprotective and controlling. I do it. You're just shutting your child's bedroom door. Good night. I'm going to go be an alcoholic.

[ Laughter ] You stay in here, OK? And stare at my mannequin face. Whoo! That's a hard childhood right there.

Yeah. She had also been in a mental institution, but she also favored Edward more than his other fucking crazy brothers. So he got bullied by neighborhood kids and called a mama's boy. According to the psychologist, he said,

"And you know, 50s, 40s and 50s psychologists were like, "Well." And they were like, "What? That doesn't make sense." At a piss complex? No. Symbolic matriocide. And I was like, "That sounds familiar. Our friend Ed Geen." Oh, yeah.

All right. Like, kill people because they're like, "It's my mom." And you're like, "It's actually a woman you don't fucking know." They just want to kill their mom over and over. Exactly. Exactly. Um, so because of the resentment and hatred of this mother.

Singing bad singing is really irritating. This is why I don't swallow anything sometimes. Yeah, okay. During the trial, evidence was presented that indicated that Edward had possible guill personalities. I just love the word "dual, dual, dual personalities."

The court heard that. So when the Nazcaid drought got drunk, his voice changes. He talks more like a girl says stuff about, this is a quote. I wouldn't. He talks stuff about poltergeist. Where was demons?

Creepy stuff. Talks to himself. Cool stuff. Yeah.

He talks about the kind of stuff they have on the clothes

at the, what's the story? That danger field.

That would have been good if I could have remembered that.

Talks to himself a lot. Other times, it was like he was talking to someone else. Maybe he was talking to someone else. Yeah, he could have been talking to someone else. Although Edward LaNoscis crimes were committed

on Australian soil, the trial was conducted under American military law. Yeah, that's Mark Carmen's style. Yeah. And see, I guess, baby. Yeah. I said, yeah, I don't know that was.

I've never watched that show about it.

They have. I want true cry. He confesses to the crimes, convicted incentives to death at a United States Army General Court Marshall in July of 1942, but it's here in Australia.

He's executed at Pentridge Prison. Oh, wow. You guys stay there sometimes? You love it. Is it the best prison? Yeah.

Um. Oh, really? Prison? You know, normally heckling makes me really mad. You know, normally heckling makes me really mad.

I mean, that's my favorite thing, anyone's every year. You live there, and you can get breakfast there. You can get breakfast, see it in that ring. She'll have them usually. I'll have been on toast with her Friday.

Georgia loves a nice breakfast bean. Oh, wow.

You guys have really butter over to the baked bean breakfast.

Thank you. So much for that. What's congee? Don't answer now. It's on every menu.

It's a breakfast, but it's like congee. And I'm like, what could this be? And then it's like with shrimp. Congee's like soup. Oh, isn't grass?

I don't know. Just random stuff where I'm like, I can't put together what this breakfast item might be. It's not French toast. I know that.

If it ain't musely, she don't want to eat something. That's not something. That's it. Okay. The precise details of his execution worse.

We, sorry. We had to eat brevis of that prison. I'm so sorry.

Are you guys made a third of my room?

Yeah. We'll be there. Um. There. They.

Share time is over. Um. Yeah. Poor girl. She crying.

When I just yelled at him. Sorry. I can't do it. It was a real mind-fuck because we supported you. Yeah.

And we attacked you three. Oh, sorry. I know he feels so bad. Now. Never look back.

That. That. He. So for some reason, the details are a secret of how we got killed.

But the hangman had a fucking journal, which is like, give me that to read tonight. Please. Yes. Um, and it says that he was hanged.

Right? Sorry. Why? And the hangman's journal, if they published a book,

do you think the inside flap of the picture of the author he'd have is?

Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? What? You know the hangman has to wear that thing on his face. Well, just don't know who he is.

Guess what? What? What's this? It's the hangman's journal. Are you kidding?

Oh, but your glass is gone. Hold on, everybody. I wasn't being an asshole. I didn't mean it like that. No, no.

She can't see anything. I can't see shit. It means when I read the airport and like you came and I was like, I don't know what to say. Oh, wait.

She can't see anything. I knew that you had to wait. I was here before you came in. It's really funny because oftentimes I'll be walking toward people. And I'll watch.

I know that things like a big wave. I'll see a movement like this. And then I'll see the mouth gets smaller and smaller. It looks like I'm just icing someone else. I'm not worried.

It's like, they're like, hey, Karen, I'm just like walking. And then she goes, oh. Yeah. I'm like, oh my god, hi, how are you? And they're already sad.

Sorry. This is like the Hangman's journals like it's fucking scrapbook. That looks like a picture of a pelvis. It does. You can go read that somewhere around this town.

Okay. Yeah. Probably at this prison, we're having brunch out tonight. It's turned into brunch and I'll have a momma. So, but he gave all the details of all the hangings.

I think he was like a diary. Um, so, okay, so they think that he was hanged. But ledge, I just burped something. Legend also has it that the locals were permitted to provide the rope and gallows. Isn't that cool?

What? Like, the people were so fucking pissed off about this guy murdering their people. That they were like, here's the rope. And here's the gallows. Hang that motherfucker.

Oh, they like built the gallows. Yeah.

And more just like, they're basically like, look, we'll take care of everything.

You just get your hangman up here. Yeah, I'm telling him to bring his diary because he's just going to be good. Right this down. Yeah. We built the gallows.

So, that's the story of Edward Monoski, the Brown Out Strangler. Wow. Thanks. Thank you. It's all you.

That was good. You did it. Well, we did it.

We did it.

That was. That was.

That was an American special that we brought you to you.

You count them. We'll grow them. Okay. We're back.

Are there updates for this case?

There are no case updates. Unfortunately. But everyone's in a while. We call up a person from the audience and get a really great home town. And this is a good example of that.

Yeah. So if you're thinking of coming up to do a hometown in the future, if we ever do live shows again. Please compare yourself to the hometown grades that we've experienced in the past. This one is, this is Rebecca. Let's hear her hometown.

Is it time for hometown murder? Time for a town hometown. Let's see.

Is there a way we could get a little bit of light to see if there's any one that has a story they'd like to talk to.

Do you want to do it? Do you want to do it? Come on. Yeah. Here and pick.

All right. Mama we're Steven is. I think that way probably. Oh. Hi.

Hi. Don't trip. Don't fall down. Hello. Hi.

Hello. Look at her. Hi. Are they falling off the window? Look at her.

Careful. You don't wish to. I'm stuck in this. Look at this is no you guys have the cutest what are you doing? Stay in the forest don't get her to stay out of the forest. Is this so is this a danger feeling?

This is so cute. What is it like the one story been to is the only story about Ben? Is this from the one place we've been to? I heard you guys don't have any others. Oh, what's hi? What's your name? I'm Rebecca. Hi Rebecca. Where are you from? Everyone will cheer for you. Thank you The Yara Valley. All right. Yeah, let's yeah, let's do a hometown. Okay, so I have a few but I'll just do one It's really good you can do more. Yeah, or it's really bad. Oh, yeah, go ahead I won't use exact names because I still live next to one of my mom

So we'd have you cut see anyone out there. That's too creepy No, it's better. It's better. Yeah, just look up into the lights days off

So basically my mom and dad moved to a to cold stream. I don't know if you know cold straight

Cold stream. I know it along the room to highway. So basically high traffic area and They start building these house and there's an old little barn out the back a little bit creepy and basically where they're gonna build the house There's a big tree at the front big cherry blossom massive cherry blossom

My dad's like I really think I need to cut this down. Why?

Well, where the house was gonna be so they could keep the old barn. Oh, where it is. Yeah, so the neighbor comes over and he's This big massive guy big beard my dad's like a skinny kind of Crocodile day in Dundee We have the treat on with this big nice. Yeah, so you imagine this other guy that's massive in my dad's kind of skinny I'm gonna control from anyway

This guy tells him don't cut down the tree no matter what you do. Do not cut down the tree. She'll do The next day comes in with a backhoe, but the tree's been cut down and there's a big hole right around the tree No, this is really sourced. That's like what the house going on So anyway, pulls up the tree talks to the guy next door. It doesn't know anything apparently As you do, and then so we build the house over the top where this tree was

Straight away, which has ended up being my bedroom No, no, no, they're ends up being horrific hauntings So So this is like sit down

Everybody starts off with my brother. So he's first in the room. So there's 10 years between my brother and I

So my brother Adam wakes up as he's horrible horrific noises in the room Basically this goes like musically instruments. Don't know if you'll believe in ghosts, but anyway Tell me what's the land the guitar so you learn the recorder at primary school, basically yeah, then you go up to the guitar So my grade six he's like mass of this guitar Every night

Family wakes up to the guitar strum. Oh, oh, yeah, no, no, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, so 10 years on I'm I'm just born basically and my dad liked the geek lately So he would come in you guys just just now have string and string if you're talking

Basically what keeps happening is these horrible things keep happening in the...

Things like you'd be in the shower and shampoo bottles would come down on you like one after the gap Yeah, yeah, like creepy as fuck like Anyway, so eventually these these things keep happening and I'm about four or five and I say to my mom I feel like there's something wrong at the neighbors. There's something really strange

But she said it and she was in night count on her. Yeah, what's up?

And her eyes were white I don't know what's true So basically The next day we're all sitting down for dinner and I actually sent you in this email as well. I'll bet it. We bet it. We love it So basically

The next day we're all sitting down for dinner. Please come right in through our house

They come through our house. I basically like if you have somewhere safe to put the kids put the kids

My brothers are older. We all went in the bathroom stay there. What the fuck did I get daddy's knife literally? That's not a knife. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like you call that a knife And basically the police right go to a three-hour house to the next one. Neighbors. They go to the back pattyx

We call them pattyx and then you through the front of the house

And basically a body is found in their backyard This is your dad guys back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah the freaky guy. Okay. Yeah, and There's other barns that are found on the premises as well They believe they were buried. There was tree roots through it. Oh my god It's like oh

Oh my god, then a couple years past so the father's been put away at this point. He's daughter is about 1920 and a body is found a cold-streamed hit She's almost a capitated. She's been injecting her body. That's it. Yep That she answered in a sleeping bag

bound up with a phone cord when we actually have phone cords. Yeah, yeah

horrific. They can't move the body because This is the daughter which they didn't know at the time the next Karen

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, she has a thing where she always comes back to the body and every single time

They've missed her so they've moved the body and missed that chance of her coming back and trying to bury it or get rid of evidence So they're like we've got to leave the body. So they ring the talking to the mother and they're like we can't meds the body I'm so sorry So it gets quite emotional the whole town is like this girl like we don't know the body's been found We don't know anything about it's all tough thing. They haven't been heard of a mannequin with a fucking

What she was anyway, so basically Karen comes back with dynamite to blow up the body Shit, and this is really wet. You're not a compulsive liar This is like later on she does again with dynamite. She has a thing with dynamite This girl had been it was a drug deal gone wrong. Karen was a drug dealer and she had a solid That is a way this is a dark world

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so he was a really bad guy that hid the body underneath where her house was and then had a body in the backyard And then Karen's the daughter who's in a oh, she's about 19 21

So basically drug deals gone wrong. She was living in a little bit. Oh, she made back him with her dad after this girl was killed

Now, she gets the dynamite comes back to blow up this body So when she comes back Basically the cops jump on her. So she's done for she's arrested her boyfriend was waiting in the car Now when she does her statement, so basically she writes out her boyfriend She got less time because she was making sandwiches in the kitchen while they were torturing this girl for 48 hours

It's repulsive like that is just yes, so she got less time because of that. So disgusting. Yeah So yeah, I know you're right This is happening next door. Oh, you're growing up. Well, no, you say this is so the daughter She was mostly living at Lily-Dow so she's doing a nice drug deals and stuff like that Whereas Ayn and moved out and so just his wife was still there. Okay, okay, okay, so basically

Karen then gets out of jail few years later her boyfriend's still in jail. She gets done and want it to blow up her boyfriend out of jail

Here and there's other things

Okay, but you did the dishes. She's like, yeah, I've got the perfect Dynamite So she ends up going back in a jail obviously he does more time

hospital what about I think it was about three or four years ago

She ends up moving back in next door to my mom But I'm sorry Kate. She's a born-again Christian. Oh Given so good. Yeah Jesus for good. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like all that shit The world the thing the life really fucked Jesus does love dynamism Sorry in the end. Yeah, my mom still lives next to all of them

Do you guys have them over for Christmas? Yeah, like what's for the July life yeah, just really tense I don't have that here Sorry Yeah, that's the story of the jewels. I wasn't Yeah, I'm I was never

Rebecca you guys Rebecca

Good job, that was amazing

Wow, tap that I mean Oh no, don't fall spot How are we?

Okay, so this episode was originally titled live at the comedy theater. I think we can do better than that

I'm sure okay, if we were naming it today based on the episode maybe we would call it Marmite we could also name it Paul onions. Yes, we must he really became a legend and also one of the first Nick Terry video Seatured Paul onions. He's got an onion head. Yeah, that's right and Also me screaming leave Paul onions alone because I think that's when we started to realize And now people listen to us

Can you imagine if people are talking to him or like involve him in this podcast like yeah? So we just started screaming leave Paul onions alone Paul holes is fine. He's a public figure. He belongs to all of us. Yes, but he enjoys it, right? Let's just take Paul onions now. Yeah, because he deserves it. He does after everything he's been through we put him through All right, well, thanks you guys for listening to another episode of rewind from here in the Bahamas

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