Brian Austin Green Meets World

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involved in what's going to happen next. Sports. That being said. Danielle. Yes.

It's a sports conversation. Okay. I am not a huge baseball fan. We had so much fun going to the Philly's game with the way we were going to go. I'm treated there and throwing out the pitch, watching you do that in the top baseball

cards. It was so much fun, but unless I go to a baseball game, I'm not really invested in baseball. Just too slow a game for me. However. Are you watching the Savannah Bananas?

No. I'm not watching the Savannah Bananas. I am, however, going to start going to the Cardinals games, and you are going to start coming with me. Okay.

I'm going to have to fly there, and we're going to have to go there because the Cardinals in partnership with Coca-Cola have launched all you can eat seats. What? You buy these seats and then it's just you're going to laugh. I'll take it for everything to eat in the park.

Everything you want to eat, including, but not limited to apparently ice-cold Coca-Cola products, hot dogs, chicken tenders, brought worse. Show chips and cheese, fries, popcorn, peanuts, kettle chips, ice cream cups. I'd be full by like, five minutes in. We'll put that in.

We'll put that in. Stretches for you. Stretch it out and you're good to go, and then you can eat more.

“So you have to really pay for the ticket you watch the games and games you're still eating.”

You could just wait.

You could also just like eat in the first inning.

That's like the early second meal. Can go a little early? Uh-huh. They're watching our mass ban and can select up the three items per visit from a dedicated concession stand located near the section, and they can return as often as they want with

no chicken or pain in the park. Yes, the only thing better would be watching a game and actually in front of that buffet writer was talking about it the Queen Mary. But on limited, so I mean, again, we're going to have to go to St. Louis to watch

A flight is more expensive, probably than paying for the food.

I don't want to do mass. Okay. I just want to get there and just eat a whole bunch of stuff. So I'm going to assume the flight will be free or cheap. We should just, we should think of maybe convincing the Dodgers to do this, so that we don't

have to fly. Or the Cardinals to fly us there and do a podcast from the Swalt just eating. Yes. That's a good idea.

“So that's why I said, writer, you're not going to care about this at all.”

But this was big news for me now. I assume Danielle would want to get there as well. We just bought the YouTube cable, you know, you can watch TV because it's the only way for us to watch baseball games. And as you know, I have a Jackson who wants needs to watch baseball games and he's obsessed

with the Dodgers and it's very cute. And so yeah, where I'm going to be, I'm going to be watching lots of games. You can't watch baseball on like regular cable. We don't have regular cable. I'm getting rid of mine.

Yeah. I'm getting rid of mine. It's just unnecessary. It's just unnecessary. And the Dodgers have a special deal.

So it's not jet like the Dodgers you can only watch on YouTube. Okay. Oh, guys, the TV landscape's just. Can I tell you something crazy? I've lived in Los Angeles for 35 years.

Yeah.

Never been to a Dodgers game.

I've never had a Dodger dog. Wow. Never like six. Let's do it. It's not crazy.

Never been to a Dodger game. Never had a Dodger dog. There's Dodgers. Let's do it. Let's do a Dodgers podcast.

Never been to a Lakers game. I've done the Clippers and I've done either Clippers or Lakers. I think I want to see the mighty ducks. And I might have seen an angels game. Maybe.

I mean, I got to take you guys to, I got to take you. I got to take you guys. Show you guys a lay. Yeah. Yeah.

That's so that's yeah. Never had a Dodger dog ever. We should go to a sports game. I would love to go to a sports game. Yeah.

That is. That's. That's WMBA. WMBA. And it's fun.

It was my mom who taught me how to, taught the boys how to play basketball. And the Yukon Husky women kind of then religion in my house. Yeah. I was born. Yeah.

So WMBA would be a ton of fun. That's a easy transition for me. But wouldn't mind seeing a Dodger game.

“But I think there's a limit on the food.”

You can get it a Dodger game as opposed to the Cardinals. No limit. What was I something? So it's unlimited food when you've got a credit card. I was going to say you just.

That's it again. But then you're paying. See. We'll bring we'll bring the middle of our game. You also realize if it's free.

There's no calories. Do you not understand? I forgot that rule. Yeah. I forgot that rule.

I've been eating so. Healthy. Why? I was a dance with the stars. Yeah.

Right. But now you're done. So why? You said before. All your eating is cottage cheese.

Which bait. Look at that. Wow. Oh God. Oh.

Wow. That's amazing.

“But when you said you're eating a ton of cottage cheese.”

So much cottage cheese for yourself. Chicken. And. It's disgusting. It's so good.

Good culture cottage cheese is good.

But yeah, I basically went on.

You know, well, we've talked. Many a time, especially around New Year's resolutions. Yeah. About how this is the year. We're getting into the shape of my life.

And knowing I was going on tour, like dancing through, you know, doing dancing with the stars. I was like, this is a perfect opportunity to just actually kickstart. Yeah. And then knowing I was going on tour for a month and was going to be living

and breathing and eating all the same things that the dancers do in front of me. I just decided you're going to be dancing for two hours a day. Eat like them. Work out like them. And so I did.

And that means I've just been eating very clean. There's no joy at all in my life. But I. But you look. You look great.

That's the thing. I know it's good. Right? Like a change is the way you feel. You feel better and all that kind of stuff.

I am. I'm sleeping really well. I feel like I have energy all throughout the day. I feel, I mean, just in general, just feel so much lighter on my feet. I'm more like willing to do whatever it is.

Like my kids want to go run around outside and do something. A much more willing to be like, OK, yeah, let's go do it. I just generally feel better. And obviously now that I've been home, I've been keeping up with working out consistently. And yeah, just eating really well.

But so it's I'm getting starting to get frustrated because I have a trainer. I'm working hard with my trainer. I'm eating well. I'm drinking almost no alcohol. But I'm almost 50.

And it's so much harder to take the way off. Like so much harder to take the way off. Yeah. Even from the pandemic. So when I started the pandemic, I lost the ton of weight.

And it came off pretty quick. Right. And I'm doing kind of the same thing now. I'm doing factor. And I'm calorie counting and I'm working out.

I'm working heavy with weights and still doing the right kind of cardio. And it's like it's my body's changing. But I'm not really losing any weight.

So it's like, yeah, there's it's you can tell.

I mean, that four years or whatever, five years. Big difference. It's a big difference at being 50. Then being 45. Big difference.

So maybe cottage cheese will do it for me. I'm telling you. I'm telling you cottage cheese and chicken skewer. Yeah.

“Could you do me a favor with every bite of cottage cheese I take?”

Could you just come and kick me in the nuts? Because it'll be exactly the same thing. It's not awesome. Awesome. You could drizzle some hot honey on it.

Oh, my God. That's amazing. It's for you.

You changed the whole thing for me.

Now I love the texture. You told yourself that. I love it. It is my favorite. Welcome to Von Meets.

We're all down Danielle. I'm right or strong. And I'm tired all day. I'm well for now. [music playing]

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So welcome to Pod meets World. Our favorite 90's TV star turned hip hop musician. Please no one tell Joey Lawrence I said that. It's Bryan Austin Green. It wasn't hip hop though was he?

Well there's nothing his love can't fix for you baby. Can't fix for you baby. He was in a tank top on the beach playing flag football with a bucket winning. He threw the ball to himself. He did.

“As you should when you're trying to look awesome.”

That's exactly what you do. You throw the ball to yourself. And you run it in for the touchdown with everybody else's taking a nap. Because that is the way to do it the way. I love Joey.

We do do so great. Oh my god. There are podcasts to so fun and I love the fact that they're all so supportive. I love each other and love their good. They have a great a great family for sure.

So now let's get on to you. Thank you. I'm glad you said it. Let's start in Van Eyes. You were a valley kid whose parents drove in that 101 traffic to take you to auditions.

How did you convince them that little Bryan could be an actor? Oh boy. That's a tough question. So yeah, I grew up in North Hollywood. I was riding the bus to a 30 second street USC performing arts school for elementary school every day.

And one of the kids that I rode the bus with to school did commercials. And I thought that's really cool because he told me like he made a little money from things that he did.

And I was like that's amazing.

I want to make some money because my like my my family was very middle class. But my dad was very. He did not give money away easily. Like I had to convince him how this toy was going to better my future and what you know, and I was like well, it's a it's a muppet puppet from the muppet show, but you know,

“it's I'm going to be a puppeteer one day and so that's why I want this puppet.”

So I said to them, I was like, hey, I want to be an actor and they said, if in six months, you still wanted to do this, then we'll get into it and we'll look into it. And six months later, I still did. So I went and met with my friends agent and started doing commercials after about a year. But my parents, my mom, God bless her. She drove me everywhere. I mean, I went to school all over the place really far from the valley.

And at that point in in the 80s, it interviews where I would have three or four commercial auditions a day and they would be all over town.

She was an absolute saint.

“Wow, I know my mom too, we lived in Orange County and she would have to pick me up from school in Orange County.”

Drive me all the way to LA. Yeah, Orange County. That's a that's a track. That is not not close. I want to talk to you a little bit about a little miss Bliss because we had a similar situation on boy meets world and this type of heartbreak is common for a lot of us. You were cast in the pilot and listen to this trio of star skies. Yes, Brian Austin Green, Jilliel White and Jonathan Brandis.

And Hayley Mills. And you are the star of this thing. Well, no, so Hayley Mills was the star of it. So the initial show, a good morning, Miss Bliss, it was called. She was a teacher within this school. So it was about her. We just happened to be kids in the class. But yeah, so we did the pilot for that show and then they decided, hey, we want to we want to pick this up and shoot it in Florida. And I was like, no, I live in Valley. I live in the Valley. I love my life. I really like skateboarding and I really love still having my feet when I go past bodies of water.

So yes, you know, so I stayed and the show went out there and and then it kind of reformulated itself and came back as say about the bell. Wow.

“How big of a deal for you was it then when you booked that role, though, I mean, you ultimately decided not to do it because they were going to send you to Florida, but like when you get a job like that, that's a big deal.”

It's a, it's a big deal, but that was like that was the business that you did, you did commercials, you did as many national commercials as you could because they did well. And then you booked a pilot and you would go shoot a pilot and there were only three networks at that time and so they were each doing like 15 pilots a year and you had pilot season, you had November and like February, right, top of the year. And so you would try and book a pilot and then probably 98% of the pilots never got picked up, so you'd book a pilot, you'd shoot it and you'd go cool, a nice meeting everybody and then you would go guest on other shows and you know do do as much stuff as you could.

So we were, I remember we were all excited about it because it was fun. It was a bunch of kids and it was live audience, which I had never really done before that.

Yeah, we did, we did the pilot and then it was like you, that was sort of it, like I never, I didn't understand that pilots get picked up and then they become shows that are on consistently. I have no idea. You were just like, we know how to pilot. I didn't know. It's, it was the same thing when I first started doing commercials and my friend told me that it did commercials. I was like, wait, regular people can do this. Like, I thought you had to be some sort of magic stuff, you know, live in some alternate universe on television.

I had no idea that kids just got into it and auditioned and all of a sudden you were on TV. It was crazy. So I did a pilot with Joey Lawrence.

“That's how we ended up becoming friends.”

We did a pilot for, um, they did a series of, uh, from adventures in babysitting. Oh, yeah. Oh, right. And so we were both the leads on that pilot. Was Keith Cougan involved in that?

No, I played Keith Cougan. You played Keith Cougan. You played Keith Cougan.

So I've got to be in it like some of these conventions and I was at one and I'd never met Keith before.

And he came up and he was like, hey, dude, you played me in the pilot. How did you know that? It was a pilot. Nobody picked it up. Nobody ever saw it.

Yeah. Keith Cougan knows all. Yeah. That's a motto. Yeah.

He knows pretty much everything there is to know.

Well, I do think it's pretty incredible that you, Jaleel and Jonathan all went on to become massive stars in the 90s.

And then you also appeared on Saved by the Bell the Collegiers. I did. Yeah. So I was, um, I was dating Tiffany at that point. Okay.

And, um, yeah, they had moved from the, the kind of, you know, morning-ish sitcom thing to that. And it was kind of a prime time sitcom that they were doing. And, um, yeah, I just made a quick, I walked in with a turkey. I think it was. It's not right.

Anybody want turkey? It felt, it was a really good line reading. I don't know if you saw it or not. But, um, I won quite a few razzies for that one.

You did two episodes alongside Vicky the Robot.

“What do you remember from, wait, do you guys know that show?”

Of course. Of course.

It's a small, you never wonder.

Yes. Then she had a little glued on panel on her back and they opened it up. It was terrible in the best way. Yes. I was so, that was probably one of the jobs I was the most excited about when I was young.

Because I watched the show. Yeah. Right. It's fun. I was like, oh my god, it's Vicky the Robot and the whole thing.

And it was really cool to be doing, you know. And it's, every once in a while, you have those moments where you're on a set. You guys know, you're on a set and you go, I cannot believe. I'm on this set right here. Yeah.

I'm a huge fan of course. Yeah. I was too. Yeah. It's just such a good show.

Tiffany Brouset is a nurse now in Colorado. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah.

He's called her career. He's called her career. He's called her career.

All the shows like, where is that?

Where's the cast of Silver Spoons?

“That's what happens in my house at 3 a.m.”

It's definitely right. So, yeah. You should put the coffee down. Great. I know.

God. Great show. This is one here. It was important in my childhood. That was up there with all those Silver Spoons.

Different strokes. Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah. Of course.

That was created by boy making character. Boy making character. Michael Jacobs. So, I was on one episode of my two dads and it's the only time I was ever fired. Oh, yeah.

I was just fired. I did. There's not much of a story to it. Honestly, that's the best part. That, like, that's I should have saved that for the end to have some big, like,

click hang on moment. But I'm terrible at telling stories. But it was probably Michael Jacobs who fired you. So. Do you remember what was it after a run through?

Yes. So I was Michael. And we had been rehearsing. And then we did a run through. And I have a scene sitting at a table with Stacey Keenan.

Right. Who was on that show? And there was somebody else. And I was really new to sitcoms. And I just didn't completely understand the timing of it.

And I went to myself. And then we were going to, we're going to have to read. But again, I was so young. I was like, okay. So what does do I, I still get paid for this day, right?

That's, you know, that's all I really cared about at that point. I, if there's one gift, I can give you. I would just like for you to know. It wasn't you. No.

No. It felt like me when the firing came down. Oh, I'm not saying it didn't feel like you. Yeah. You were definitely told it was you.

But I, I do just want you to know.

Michael Jacobs fired probably 10 kids within the first five episodes of Boy Meets World.

So this is it. And threatened to fire me after my first day. And I was already replacing someone who had been fired.

“And you have to, like, and he would, it's a lying reading.”

Like he would give lying readings. And if you didn't say it. Papa, Papa, Papa. Yeah. I wanted it said.

I remember that. Yes. It was very specific. And he came out. And he was, we were sitting in a restaurant doing a scene, sitting at a table.

And he kept giving me these line readings of exactly what he wanted. Yeah. And he was like, I couldn't do it exactly the way he was. And that was it. Yep.

Yeah. Yeah. So like I said, just gift. From. It's good to know now.

It's good to know. Yeah. You never know. I don't, you know. You never.

But you said it's the only time you were ever fired. It was the only time I can't wait to tell my therapist. Yeah. I don't know. Sorry.

Brian, you did small wonder. You don't have to apologize. It's true. Right. You did the pilot for adventures in babysitting.

Everybody else. So in order to join Sag, you add Austin to your name. I want to know. Have you ever met the other Brian Green? No.

I have not. I wished his demise when I was younger. I don't know what all that entailed. I didn't realize that was a terrible thing to wish upon anybody. But yeah, it was when when I just so my mom had a whole name planned for me when she was pregnant.

And I was I really broad shoulders as a baby. So she had a real hard time in labor. And my dad who smoked a lot of pot at this point in life. And while my mom was in the middle of labor, he came forward. And he was like, can we name him Brian?

I'm almost like, name him, whatever the fuck you want. Just get this good out of here. And that was literally the only name he came up with. He came up with no middle name, no anything. That was just Brian Green.

And then all of a sudden Sag is going, yeah, there's another Brian Green.

So you have to come up with a middle name.

“And Brian Green is not a very easy name to come up with a middle name for where the whole thing is.”

Or where the whole thing flows very well. We almost named me Brian Peter Green after my mom's dad. But then my initial would have been peace. So it was Brian. I don't know if you were like.

I'm not a very good start. That doesn't. That'll make a break of careers. So we went through a bunch of names. And we ended up going through.

Get the map. I mean, Austin fit. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

And you could have gone with like Willie Broadshoulders. I don't know how well my code was done. That's right. And get this kid out of me. Green.

Yeah. You're a Brian name and whatever the. You want. His name and skills are in. We're good at that here.

podcast. You should just be writing books. That's what we're going to do. Yeah.

I'm already on the third one.

What are you talking about? What does this still happen? Are there still actors having to have three names? Because we're such a 90s thing. But I don't hear about it that much anymore.

No, it's absolutely. It can't be. You can't be in the. I don't think you can be in the union with the same name as somebody else. Right.

“I think you have to have some sort of thing that differentiates.”

So they can keep track of checks when they come in. They can monitor. They do all the stuff that they that they as a union do. It's so strange. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, you joined sag and then shortly thereafter you start booking. A lot of different shows. You book a bigger occurring role on not landing. And you become a bit of like a child actor vet at this point.

Did it feel like something big was coming?

Like, did you always have that feeling?

It was in my LR scrubs. You know. It was. No. So.

No. So because the the business was really small when I was young. There were probably 30 kids total. So we would all see each other at all the auditions and stuff. So was myself and Seth Green and to Caprio and to McGuire.

And like we had this small group. And we all knew each other.

“So there was no competition between anybody.”

It was sort of like, Oh, you're looking for a little red head kid. Oh, well, then Seth is your guy. I don't even know why I'm in here. No, no. I was like, go get him Seth.

Like we were all we were all rooting for each other. But the the business it set there wasn't. Honestly, I don't. I really don't think it was until 902 and oh, that. There were shows that were really rooted around young young kids.

Teenagers, high schoolers, you know, middle schoolers. So at that point kids were getting parts in adult shows. Right. Yeah. All the shows that we that I was doing was not slanting adult shows.

I will come through with like a puppy every once in a while just to show that like, you know, the character had a kid. Right. That's all I was there for. And then all of a sudden that shifted and then it became.

Kids were actually the leads of things and things were really like aggressively shifting. You know, because boy meets world. You guys were really like on the the cost. The great you were groundbreaking as far as what it was you were doing, you know. Yeah.

The business has changed so much. So I had no. I had no sense back then of that this was going to be my career. Like I grew up in music. Right.

So I thought, oh, okay, I'm making some good money doing this. But I'm going to be a drummer and you know, in a band and that and that's it. There was nobody else in my family that had ever been acting before. Yeah. I had nobody to sort of learn from or bounce ideas off of or anybody that I had seen succeed in it.

I did know anybody in it. I grew up in North Hollywood and it was I went to music academies and these performing art schools. And it was like fame. So we were all like playing instruments and doing all this stuff. And I had no idea that the like student films and the commercials that I did as a kid would. Take over my life and become my career.

I never had any idea. How did you think about acting at self band? Did you think of it was like, oh, I just a job at a show up. It was like kind of like my model. Yeah.

I didn't what did you think it was like a craft that you had to work on. I didn't understand the craft. Yeah, I love it. Like I had for me.

My passion had always been music.

Right. My dad's a drummer. I was just waiting. Because you said you had nobody in your family that were that well.

He was touring with Glenn Campbell when I was born.

“He was doing like Ryan Stone cowboy and all that and then he stopped touring.”

When I was about two and a half because he wanted to be home more. So he started doing all studio stuff. He played on like Frank Sinatra's albums and dovy brothers and all sorts of really cool stuff.

And I went to these amazing performing arts schools from music.

I'd like audition to get in. I remember in jazz band. I went to Hamilton High for for high school to begin and then I was failing everything because I was working so much and I ended up graduating from North Hollywood High. But one of the guys that I was in jazz band with his name is Abel Boriel Junior.

He plays drums for Paul McCartney. Like it's I grew up with. I grew surrounded by all these people that were really really good in what it is they were doing. So when I started doing commercials. I hadn't ever met anybody that was doing it successfully.

Where I was like, oh my god, it can lead to this. I had no idea what the end goal of it was. So to me, that was kind of a fun thing. Or to show up and you crackers or you chew whatever it is that you play volleyball and a tank like whatever it is they're asking of you.

And then you go home and then I will go home and play music and skateboard and do the stuff that I was really passionate about doing and loved doing at the time. Wow. That's so funny.

I was similar for me too.

“I, I also didn't understand it as a craft nor did I understand it as a business.”

It was just like, you know, and my family didn't really quite understand it either. I think you're, you're not alone there. Yeah, my, my family was like my mom was my business manager. My dad was my manager. Right.

And everybody was like learning as they were. And no one had any experience or education at it. Yeah. Yeah. So a long comes the Beverly Hills 90210 audition.

And it's an errand spelling show. Was that intimidating? No, I had no idea who he was. Okay. Not a clue.

I literally had zero. Everyone was like, oh my god, it's errand spelling. I was like, I don't know who that is. And then they were like, oh, he did love boat. Like they started naming all the shows.

And I was like, oh my god, I know those shows. But I didn't know who played what role in free production or any, like, I didn't know that TV producers were as big as they were at that point. And they were putting these projects. I had no idea.

Yeah. I was like, oh boy, lucky him. He jumped on board this love show. I didn't know. Yeah.

I didn't know that he was creating these things. And putting these teams together and making these happen.

“I remember all of the auditions that I had were in his office, which was really incredible.”

Like it was massive. And he had this huge like 25 foot long couch. And this crazy with like pinball machines. But he was this incredibly kind guy. So it was I've been doing this at this point.

I was 16 when I went into audition. I started acting when I was nine.

So like I was I walked in the room and I was like, I've been in a million of these.

Right. Just doesn't intimidate me at all. It's a really cool office. You seem like a really nice guy. Like this is this is cool.

And then the fact that the script was about like, like, junior high high school kids, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool. Like I can do this, you know. I knew Doug Emerson at the time. We had been acting together.

So I read with him when we were in there. And we had chemistry from knowing each other. So it just sort of, it all happened really fast. And it didn't, there wasn't really much magic to it at that point. You know, the auditioning process.

It's not this magical thing where you're like, Oh, my God. I booked this pile and I feel like this is the one. You sort of you book a pile and you go. Who knows? I read better.

I'll do it. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I, I was famously not allowed to watch 90210 as a kid.

So I eventually had to do a lot of chemistry. So good parenting. Yeah. My parents were like, absolutely not. I used to watch with my parents.

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In the first season, you played a bit of an outcast on the show,

not yet, like really in the friend group sort of peering in from the outside.

“Was that also what was going on when the cameras were off, or were you guys all close right off the bat?”

Uh, we were pretty close right off the bat. I mean, I, so I had known Shannon for years, from when she was doing a little house on the prairie, and our house that showed the chat Alan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I had funny enough, I did, so I knew Doug. We had known each other for years, from commercials and everything.

Luke and I had done. We did a doctor pepper commercial literally like four weeks before I booked the pilot and started doing that.

And we were like, drive in theater doing this doctor pepper commercial. Wow. So we got along really well.

“And it was, it was fun because we were all young and so it was kind of cool.”

We were on these locations and it was really fun. And we got to kind of be silly and and don't be together. David Silver was really was really fun when the show started and the character was that way. Because it was, I wasn't necessarily in school like a nerd like that. But I was really small.

I had tons of energy. So I was like hyper and obnoxious to people that I was around. And I didn't really have a specific friend group. I sort of bounced around from group to group to group like I hung out with skaters. I hung out with, you know, kids that were in band class with me. Like I was sort of all over the place. But David Silver was really fun because we, it became this like goal of ours to come up with the most ridiculous things that we could.

So we would, we would find really crazy swaths of material and they would make pants and like all like we had all of these cray.

We would put buttons all over things and it was really fun because it was completely different from the world that I was living in at that point.

So then as the show went on and it started as it does. The, you know, the two start combining. Yep. And then it became harder. Yeah.

It became harder for me. I don't know how it was for you.

“Got how old were you when you started doing the show?”

I was 12. You were 12. I was 16. I was in the middle.

And how was you going to hang out with them and two young to hang out with the adults?

How long did you do the show for seven years? Seven years. So you know, like that is that's that period in your life where you're like really sort of figuring out who you are. You're not sure about all sorts of things, but then you're going through all of that in front of everybody. And it is and as soon as your actual life starts crossing with that, then you start becoming insecure with who you are at home.

Compared to this is writers. This is exactly writers life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

“And then the writers start borrowing from your life to you know.”

They have to. Yeah. It's after writing for kids who better to research than you in your life outside of it. Oh, my God. He's really in the music.

He's really in the, oh, let's start incorporating those things. And then all of a sudden, you're, you know, you're bringing your own things from home to work. And as soon as somebody says they don't like it, you're like, oh, my God, but I made that at home like this. Yeah. Now how do I separate this?

You start feeling like, oh, people just don't like me. And it's. And you know, as an adult mind, I can grasp the concept of people watching and how it works. And that they don't realize all of these things are coming from my home. But when you're young and you're already feeling scrutinized just because that's part of growing up.

Then that, the life that we lived at a young age, it's a hard thing to do. Yes. It's a real hard thing to do. And I give a lot of credit to people that made it out of you know. Well, there's also an interesting aspect to it because you're, you're also expected not to.

Complain about it in any way, shape, or form because you're lucky that you're getting a chance to even be doing this work. So the idea that it's difficult in any way, shape, form. It's like, other people your age, especially like, how dare you think that something bad could come to this. And it's like, well, I'm still growing up and living my life on. Yeah, it's all, it's all relative.

Like, you know, I would hear that all the time. And I, of course, didn't understand that completely because I was living in it. So for people that had that view, I'm in a completely different place than, than you are. So you can speak from your side of it. I'm speaking from my side of it.

And they're two completely different things. And both can exist at the same time. Like, people people get caught up in this concept of emotion is mutually exclusive. Like, you either, if you are jealous of somebody, then you're just jealous. It's like, well, no, I can love somebody and be happy for them and then be jealous of them at the same time.

That's okay. That's all right to have both of those things going. But people don't completely get, get that. And they feel guilty when they feel like, oh, my God, this is my best friend. But I'm jealous because they're getting this opportunity. And I so wish that I had it.

So then they start stuffing that and it creates, it creates all of these problems. And believe me, it was my therapist that pointed this stuff out. Yeah, this isn't like, oh, my God, I'm a genius.

Yeah, yeah, we've all been in therapists.

This is a part of it. It's good. We're all child actors. Exactly. If we're surviving now, we've gone through therapy.

Yes, yes. I think that's accurate. I think you're a big moment on the show as it's building its audience in season two. And is that becoming part of the 90210 folklore forever? And it's the episode that is called the next 40 years. And your best friend Scott actually shoots himself at his 16th birthday party.

It was a very intense episode. Growing up watching 902 will know with my family. I remember the announcement that a character was going to die. Yeah, this was a thing. Of course, it was a very intense and nothing like that had ever been done for kids or teens before.

“Do you remember finding out that that episode was going to happen?”

Did they talk to you about it ahead of time?

What was that like? Yeah, that was a really tough point that it was absolute for me. Absolutely, better sweet. Like I, they started putting David and Donna together and they realized like, "Oh, this is kind of a fun duo and this thing." And so maybe we have David do summer school, so he can then be in the same grade as all these kids.

But then they were like, "Okay, well then these two guys, we can't have both of them." Like it doesn't make any sense. So they came up with this idea of Doug, unfortunately, having to do that. And I remember getting the script and being shocked. Being happy, again, two emotions at the same time, happy.

It wasn't me, but then really, really sad that it was him because the show was really blowing up at that point. And we all knew it. So to then have to say to him like, "Okay, thanks for being here in the beginning and we're going to take it from here." Really, really hard. Like we had done all the cast photos and the things and he was in all the stuff.

And then all the sudden he's not there. I remember his, he and his mom had rewritten that scene where he doesn't get shot. You know, it was like sort of a joke thing, but I think that there was a part of it that was kind of awesome. Oh, yes, no. Thanks for playing drums, Pete, but we just met someone named Ringo.

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Perfect. But it was. No, I mean, my friends, there were conversations.

People were talking because they set it up as someone's going to die. Someone's going to die. Different pictures on the screen. So people were talking about like, who do they think they were saying one of one of the characters you love is going to die. Oh, like, it was something like that.

Yes. Oh, God, who do you think it's going to be? Why is it going to happen?

And so, yeah, there was a whole thing basically.

Did you put your money on anyone going?

“Yeah, we knew who was going to, I think most people knew who was going to go.”

Me. It was like, no, but you kind of, you hate to say it. It was the way they built it up was great, but there was one character that if you had to lift code unquote, lift them out of the script, there was one that lifted out because you did. You were.

You were. To a tattoo. All right. Not. Not.

Nobody likes them. But we know we saw. They were clearly aging you up. I mean, it was clear that they were aging you up. They were putting you with the Donna character.

And they were, and they started incorporating these things where David and Scott were like not seeing on eye on things. They were kind of arguing and Scott came back from summer break with like the cowboy hat and all the stuff. And like they really, really went for like, okay, these two are completely different. Like they really leaned into it. Yeah.

“I remember because I saw them in the cowboy hat when he came back the stats.”

And I was like, oh my god, that is a big hat. Yeah. Yeah. Like it wasn't hard enough to read the script to have to read the script with that big stats in on your head. Oh, my god.

Not only are they getting rid of me, but look at this ridiculous wardrobe. They just had that big monologue. And I remember the big monologue. And then my friend thinks he's a cowboy and shoots himself in the stomach. Like I remember all this was this for for a generation of TV watchers.

It was an important television moment. It really was. It was. Yeah. Yeah.

Crazy. Looking back on it now, it's you realize like, oh my god, that's we started a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. This was Dudley getting molested in the back of the bike shop on different strokes. Like, okay, there's a bunch of different television moments. For a kid that stick out.

And then he blister in the refrigerator.

He blister in the refrigerator. I mean, this is another one of those moments that sticks with you. It really does. Yeah. That's for sure.

Well, at this point now, 901 Omenia is in full of fashion. Yeah.

“When did you first know this was going to be much more than just one of those other pilots or shows you had done?”

We did. We did grad night at Disneyland. Oh, yeah. And just a completely date myself. And when this was another bad creation was there.

So cool. So cool. Yeah. And we were doing an appearance on the tomorrow land terrace. That stage that comes up out of the ground.

And so we were down in sort of the bowels of Disney and the tunnels, the underground crazy system, where Mickey walks around with no costume ahead on and stuff like that. I get really, if you're young, it's shocking. Yes. I was really, it was a lot for me to take years of therapy to get over that.

You were in a teenager. But still, you know, Mickey held a special place in my heart. And so I was a bit devastated. Just a bit. And so Wilson Phillips were up above and they were performing a song.

The crowd was going crazy. As I assumed, they would. I was like, oh my god, Wilson Phillips are out there. This is crazy. And so they were done.

And then the crowd started screaming again. So I was like, oh my god, they must be doing like an encore or something going on. So as a cast, we had this really stupid idea of like, hey, when the stage comes down, we're supposed to get on. We'll get on.

But we'll all hide. So when the stage comes up, there's nobody on the stage. It looks like they've said, you know, this empty stage back up. So we did that. And it came up and everybody was a bit kind of quiet.

And then we all popped out. And the crowd went bananas.

And that was the first time we realized like, oh my god, all of these kids

are watching our show and loving. And it was a sea of kids. Leading up to that, it had been stuff here and there. Like, you know, a carful of girls with their parents at the gas station. Oh my god, are you on that show?

And you know, and all that. But that was the first real, like, oh my, beatle feeling moment. I mean, we came from new kids on the block around the cover of every magazine. So to all of a sudden, be having these moments where it's like,

god, I've seen this before. Yeah, yeah. And now we are in the shoes of these people that are like running to chain link fences and running down. Yeah.

Lines to jump into a van for the door to close to get out of the way. It was, it was really surreal for me.

“Like, I remember I and I took a trip to Span at one point”

to promote the show. And there were 15,000 people in the airport in Span. Oh my god. They had to shut down the airport. Shut down the airport.

Like, there are no flights. We ruined people's days. You know, I'm sure all the parents were like, I don't know. Yeah.

I don't know. But it was bananas. And they, they sent local likes out one door to sort of move the crowd. So we could get out. We were on the freeway.

And kids were running across the freeway. We got to the hotel. Went to sleep because it was such a long flight. Got up the next morning. And I opened the window to my room.

And there were thousands of people down on the street. And it felt like when you see the videos of Michael Jackson or whatever, you know, out of the country. And that on that pandemonium on the street. And all of a sudden, I was in that.

It was like, oh my god. What is happening? Well, I remember it made the news when Luke Perry went to a mall. And he was there for like 30 seconds. And they had to escort him out.

Because they thought people were going to die. Like literally thought people were going to die. They would do crazy things like sneak us into like laundry. The rolling laundry baskets and stuff and like put clothes up. Because we were doing these mall appearances.

But the stores are in the middle of a mall.

“So you have to go through the mall to get to Sam.”

You know, forever, like these store pennies. Like it was, I forget what stores they were at that point. But they thought about that. They would fill them all with thousands of people. And they were like, oh, yeah, how are we going to get in?

Yeah. And now for these appearances, they didn't think that through. So they would have to get us through these crowds. And at that point, it was all a young girl. So it was just screaming and pandemonium.

And we never did this.

We never did mall appear.

What were mall appearances? I did mall appearances. You just didn't sign themselves. I did too. You sign on it.

And people, are you getting paid? Is it like a convention? No, okay. It was like a convention.

And the store would end up getting thousands of people running through it.

Right. We did things to sign stuff. I guess we did. We did that one. Right.

They wouldn't pay for autographs. They would just pay us a flat fee. And then you'd go and you'd just sign as many autographs as you could over the course of a day or two days. And you'd go home. It wasn't like conventions aren't there.

“Well, I remember distinctly it was the 1994 and my roommate at the time.”

He and I decided to go to Europe.

So we're on a train and we're going we're sitting in a train car and two German girls who are teenagers. Sit across. And of course what you do in Europe. They start drinking beers. And we start talking.

And I said, so you know what you watch television. They both perked up. Of course we do. I said, what's your favorite show? And they both went 90210.

And they were behind in the seasons coming out. Because in Germany, they were getting them a little late. And as a joke, I said, oh. Oh, so is Dylan still alive? He's not that you're doing and such a dick.

First in it here of course, you crushed the horn and I was like, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. with him forever. It was believable though how important it was. I mean the girl literally burst in it here's thinking wonderful. Yeah. Favorite character? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What did you think to do?

It was great. Under little. Yeah. Do you have any idea one more storyline I want to ask you about? Do you have any idea where exchange and egg to find a rave? Do you have any idea where that may have

“have come from? Do you remember that story? I think that was a thing at that time. Like I think when”

raves were going on they would see what they would make them really secretive. So it was like you had to go to this liquor store at this time and nobody knew the location of any of these things. So I think that's what made the raves at that point really cool was that if you didn't know and they didn't somebody didn't send you to this liquor store to get this information then you wouldn't be there. You wouldn't be able to find it. Yeah. And these parties were they were massive these

raves and they went. They were like these after hours things. It was way before the drug the drugs were really involved in all of them and it was just this kind of fun cool late night thing for kids to do. So the writers I think stole that idea from actual culture at the time. As the show became more popular and you were growing up as a cast were you allowed any kind of creative input to what was happening in the show or tons tons yeah yeah they were wow that's so great.

They were not they they completely understood the concept of we we will be writing these based on real things that you guys are doing they were I mean we were doing 34 episodes of season at the height of that show we did over three we did no just under 300 episodes in 10 it was it was really we worked constantly we we shot 10 out of 12 months a year which is why we cast of our show if you watch we didn't really have a chance to go do films because we didn't have enough

time so we did a lot of these movie of the weeks at that point because they shoot them in 18 days right so it was you kind of prepare and because there were again only a few networks these movie of the weeks were massive at that point that was like the payday for actors was like oh my god I'm gonna go to Canada and you know nobody was in Canada like they were they were like five actors there

“like it really movie of the weeks I think are what started the Canadian film industry I don't know”

that is a fact but I'm gonna speak about you say it yeah yeah in the middle of the night Saskia woke in a haze her husband Mike was on his laptop was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever I said I need you to tell me exactly what you're doing and immediately the mask king off you're supposed to be safe that's your home that's your husband

end of a marriage but it's also the story of one woman who was done living in the dark

“your dangerous person who prays un vulnerable and trusting people you're trying to make a love and”

good listen to betrayal season five on the i-heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts I'm Nancy glass host of the burden of guilt season two podcast this is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families late one night bobby gump ride became the victim of a random crime he pulls the gun tells me to lie down on the ground he identified to remain Hudson as the perpetrator to remain was sentenced to 99 years and like law this can be real

I thought it was a mistaken identity the best lie is partial truth for 22 years only two people knew the

truth until a confession changed everything I was a monster listen to burden of guilt season two on the i-heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever ever you get your podcasts ambitious well-intentioned ferocious and wealthy mother looks like in the black community this woman's history month the podcast key deposits sweetie celebrates the power of women choosing

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every day key deposits sweetie creates space for honest conversations on self-worth love growth

and navigating life with grace ingrained led by women who have lived inspire and tell the truth

that loud I have several conversations with God and I know why it took 20 years to hear these in more listen to key deposits sweetie on the i-heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts is the new me and it's the old them everybody's on edge and your journey's different to this this woman's history month the podcast if you knew better with ambergrime spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power I think coming out of where I came

from from the Bronx I think I grew up really poor I didn't know that then because I very much

“used my creativity to romanticize life and I'm like my mom did a really good job of like”

you step back and you're like whoa we I don't know how we made it so a lot of my life was like bill out of like survival to get to the next place like my drive my like tunnel vision of like I got to be better I got to achieve this was off the strength of like I want to make a better life for us if you knew better brings real talk from women who've lived it unpacking career pivots relationship lessons and the mindset shifts that changed everything listen to if you knew better

with ambergrimes on the i-heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast almost thirty years together four kids and some of reality tv's most unforgettable moments we know a thing or two about living life out loud we're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast between us with me Heather Dubrow and me Terry Dubrow but between us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids it's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you

wish you could eavesdrop on equal parts smart funny and a little bit scandalous every week Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines the trends and the cultural moments everyone's texting about and Terry will deliver insider beauty health and wellness insights you won't find on tiktok together we'll tell the stories spill the secrets and share the hacks that keep life marriage and everything in between feeling fresh and fun we may live in a gated community

but they're zero gatekeeping here and plenty of did they just say that moments listen to between us on the i-heart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast another aspect of your character bleeding into real life with who you were as a person involves your rap album one stop carnival i have heard many stories out of the ballistics young hollywood era and i feel like this is part of it can you tell our listeners what ballistics

was so wow ballistics so i was really good friends with David Faustino who played bud bunty on married with children yeah and we were friends with Nick Adler who is Lou Adler's son Lou Adler was the manager of the mama's in the poppa's yeah he owns the whiskey he owns the rainbow

like he he's a lot of you guys that really built sunset um so they decided like hey we're going to

“throw this hip hop club at the whiskey which was just unheard of like the with the whiskey was a rock”

place there was there'd never been hip hop in there before so uh they they started they were like spray

painting um tarps to hang up inside and they like it was it was a true legitimate hip hop spot but it was it was hip hop for young hollywood people that were in town but it was really the start of something because you know hip hop was really growing at that point and uh it had grown from just being this art form that break dancing grew out of to really be kind this true music art form and itself and coming from music myself I was a big lover of jazz so it was an easy crossover for me

because it was like oh my god so much jazz was being sampled and read done in hip hop that's kind of

“a a lot of it grew out of that um so ballistics kind of went along with this natural love of”

hip hop for us anyway and then it just continued to grow I was really in the hip hop scene that was in the 90s that was and it still is that's my heart my love is hip hop is that culture is all the music that came out of the out of that decade that was my decade um so I started I was promoting clubs myself like like early 90s I was promoting one at bar one that was that was really big then I started doing a hip hop club at the corner of uh Santa Monica and vine up in the tower

we had the the entire penthouse floor it was called green light and it was at the point when hip hop was massive and we had literally anybody across the country that was in hip hop so germane do pre

“whenever he was in town was up there puffy was up there uh guru would be up there and he'd be like”

freestyling for hours buster rhymes came in like perform wooha when it first came out like we had literally

anybody that was in town and it was this really incredible spot where the elevator door is opened up

and we had two sides to it so I did all I had a DJ playing all just classic jazz on one side and then the other side was all hip hop so you on the jazz side you heard the stuff that was then sampled and was playing really cool and it was and to me I just wanted to build a place where it was all the music that I loved but I could you like get out anything or if I ever had to get out like it was the safe it was a safe place for me I was doing a lot of music at home at the same time

and a friend of mine who was a piano player and a songwriter his name was Ralph he he was everything was on cassette at this point and baby face was looking for new producers to have within his in his camp so my buddy Ralph sent his tape over there of a bunch of stuff that he had done and a couple of the songs that were on this tape were things that I had done just sort of for fun I had a group and so baby face said to him oh I really like this song and my buddy Ralph was

like I didn't do that my friend Brian did that one baby face was like oh well and this is a prep don't think this is lost on me too like baby face was saying I was he was the king of the world at this point and he was like oh I really like this song and Ralph was like I didn't do that one either my buddy Brian did cut to Ralph says to me hey baby face wants to have dinner with you with his wife I mean like melt baby that was before punk solves like I can't like

this isn't you know this there's got to be some validity to this so I went and I had dinner and it was sure enough it was baby face and his wife sitting across from me at the at the dinner table and we were talking about music and he said you know I'm starting a new label he already had a face going at that point he was like I can't have two labels so this new one my wife is going to run and and that but I will kind of be underneath at all sort you know pulling pulling the strings

are these you serious like I know I had no intention of ever doing an album like I love

tip-up I loved making beats I came from music cut to I'm like signing this deal with baby face and his wife and you remember the artist John B remember him and I know that name yeah he was when I was looking for beats he was one of the kids who submitted a tape of beats and I remember his demo tape was phenomenal like he was this art he was this like really aren't beat guy right he's an incredibly talented R&B singer songwriter unbelievable it was one of the best

“forget that it was a demo tape it was honestly one of the best albums I'd heard in years”

they ended up signing him so I did this album with it was I ended up doing it with

someone who is now one of my closest friends in the world tray from the far side who I was and the far side I was a huge fan of them at that point and so we ended up doing this album and the label didn't really know what to do with it because I was the white guy from 90210 so I think they were expecting more of a there's nothing my love can do for you baby like I would be on a beach you know I drawing it for all yeah throwing a football to myself and a tank

top and to like that was my audience and the album I did was not that at all it was the music that I loved at the time it was just as true to hip hop as I could be and hip hop was very very fickle at that point so the album wasn't received well like it was really people were really understandably hard on it I mean the the business came vanilla ice was was big before me so the culture itself was very wary of yeah anybody white coming in and having anything to say

or do and it wasn't until really M&M and I mean you had some people like ever last yet third base

you had beasty boys you had these people before that were really true to it but they weren't commercial they weren't popping they were very all about the the culture itself so the fact that I was on such a commercially successful show the cards were stacked against me from from day one yeah

“I remember going and promoting it and and writers of like the source and you know all these”

hip-hop magazines and stuff that we white label the album when we put it out so nobody knew it was me so we would get their honest review of it but then I would sit down with them to do an interview and they'd be like oh you got me okay and I was like no I don't we're not trying to get you at all I could just we just wanted to give it a fair shot you know but people were really really hard on it now it's like widely respected and I wish I had that respected 95

but whatever you know it's good to have it now it makes me feel good can we can I put you on the spot a little bit and see if you'll do a little 90's TV star rappers ranking like between you Scott Khan David Faustino oh my god wait that's within my industry or just hip-hop itself no no just for the industry yeah core and nemeck like you know core yeah he was so he so core and I really good friends quirky is the name that he went by him he was good he was

we were both good friends with this guy Justin Warfield who he and Adam went and did she once revenge they they're they're the two of that group yeah but yeah there was a there was a

“small group of us who loved hip-hop I think core was the best lyricist like he's he's always been”

a really good writer yeah he's still to this day like he writes these sort of film things and these TV show ideas and stuff that he has and he's really really good at it I think of any of them I was by far the best beatmaker not to shoot my own horn but I mean you see like I've got a full studio of stuff I mean yeah this is yeah I would like to brag and be like oh this is you know the state of the art podcast studio that I feel but it's not that's not no money and podcasting

I think I've made no money in music but I still to but you love it yeah this is my thing Dave got Dave like really broke the he opened a lot of doors for for people within TV to get into

and doing a lot of stuff now and he is still people within that be real um he just he has all these friends within the industry that it's cool it's really cool we'll make well make no mention of Scott Khan no Scott was I was doing his thing I just he's I mean now he's an actor like nobody he knows that he will happen because nothing I don't think anything commercially ever came out first for Scott Khan right right he used to come to my club though it's unbelievable like the club

that I did at bar one the people that would come that I'd see outside of the door Scotty Khan

with like he had he always had gloves on like it was this whole thing black IPs like what I am

that they were they were calling to the hey man you doing your club tonight and they oh yeah should come on through and you know all these all of these people within LA and then got into that were really into hip hop and the club seen open the doors for a lot of these people in the middle of the night Saskia awoke in a haze her husband Mike was on his laptop was on his screen would change Saskia's life forever I said I need you to tell me exactly what

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gated community but they're zero gatekeeping here and plenty of did they just say that moments listen to between us on the iHeart Radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast so a lot of stars came and went from 90210 and you what yeah you really went the distance you stayed till the end did you ever think about leaving no because the money got better and better right why why am i gonna jump ship now like i get to you know renegotiate my contract like oh

“i'm just gonna stick it out here i'm gonna um i always have a sense of i think because i've”

been acting for so long of oh my god i'm making good money now like let's stick this thing out and make as much as i can and you know pay off my house and like really set myself up yeah and then go be an artist and whatever after this is done so yeah at 10 years they still wanted to keep going and i was really done at 10 yeah at 10 i was like no i think i'm i think i'm good like that's it 10 year run like i've given you guys from 17 to 27 like i i'm good yeah

really great yeah well as you know i am a big sharna for fourth judge on dancing with the stars supporter can i can i just say beforehand you were really great on the show you were really fun like sharna and i were rooting for you through it all because it's not it's not an easy thing to do you know being there like people you assume that oh i dance all the time like oh it just be fun and it's like no it is dancing with the stars is the true technique of dancing and

every time you get into a new dance style the technique changes and the frame changes and the posture changes and the the heel or the totally changes all of these things happen and you have this really short week to master this thing and then be judged for by your life and your job your pick the part for like all the little mistakes that you make so you're rooting for anybody that is doing it and you were Danielle you were so fun to watch and we really we really

rooted for you but um your commitment to it and you're like true passion for doing it it was was not lost i don't think on anybody that watched it so so good for you for being there as long as you were and for committing to it and doing it because it's not it's not an easy thing at all thank you it was the time of my entire life i loved it so much but i i mean i was so sweet i was not asking this question to get any sort of praise myself i well you did it praise so did i did i'm just

gonna accept it i'm gonna say thank you but i'm asking wholeheartedly as a fan how cool is your wife she's awesome she's amazing she's an incredible singer she's a fantastic dancer she's got a great

“personality i just i told me she's an amazing human being which is which is i think then what”

really translates to all the other stuff like fourth chair you know she he she has a passion for constructive criticism for like really um understanding the process of what someone is going through and really trying to in the most positive way possible get explained to people what the judges

might be looking for or what she saw or and and she it's funny we would uh because we would always

come by on tape nights to kind of see everybody and and courage everyone and it the feedback that she got from so many people saying oh no we would watch fourth chair on Tuesday morning and we would absolutely take too hard the things that you would say because they would improve what it is we were

what it is she's saying she doesn't she doesn't ever want to just on someone for the purpose of

“thing on someone like she really wants to say things that she hopes our light bulb moments where”

people go hmm interesting yeah i never i never thought about it that way and she grew up dancing

that she's been dancing her entire life and she loves it and it wasn't until i did the show that i really understood where where the passion and the technique comes from and how much work goes into it oh yeah my last question for you we've seen you at conventions you similarly to us you are always uh paired with Tori Spelling your characters are forever linked for sure what has it been like seeing the long lasting effects of 90210 and more specifically David Silver like what kind

of an impact that has had on multiple generations it's incredibly humbling i i mean you guys know you're doing these conventions also it is it's so incredibly humbling when people come up to the

“table and you can only give them 15 20 seconds because you have to kind of keep it moving but”

if you give them your full attention during that 20 seconds how much of a change it can make in

their life and how much it means to them i always tell people like it's not that hard to be kind

to be nice to people yeah right it's not that hard and so it blows my mind when people aren't when they just want to shuffle people through and sign stuff and do uh i don't i don't understand that yeah because that that honestly to me in my mind it takes more work than just being being fine for people um conventions are great because it's given me a chance to travel around and really see the impact of it and hear these stories from people that are like oh i remember when i was

in high school and i was going through this i was going through this really tough situation or you know i i watched your relationship and so i got a lot of uh a lot of really great pointers and things from it and i used those in my own it's unbelievable because to us we were just kids making a show but you know the writers would hand us a script and we'd go to the script and then you finish it

and you move on you never i never understood the impact of what it was we were doing when we were

doing it so to hear it now you you realize back then it was just a job now i'm not getting paid the same way for that job i'm it's a different role that i've stepped into i'm really enjoying it i really love it like i really i as much as it's bad for business when you get to your table and you're like yeah there's not many people here i really enjoy the fact that i can spend time with people and i do and we we connect on i know nothing about what it's like to grow up in kintaki or what's

around you or what school was like for you or god let's let's like chop it up a little bit let's get some really cool conversations going because i it makes me a better person i come back home it makes me a better father it makes me a better listener it makes it makes me more compassionate it it just makes me a kinder human being because i am really listening to people when i'm talking to them and the stories aren't that different you know our childhoods were different and some

of the things we experienced and missed out on were different but they're all relative there's that we're all human beings at the end of the day all of us we we all have these human experiences so you know like you said people look at us and go how dare you complain that it was hard because look at all you had but for us completely different situation yeah my high school experience was in front of 30 million people every single yeah i'm doing a show so yeah it was pretty it was

pretty tough for me as well money different situation life sure house and the cars and the

“stuff but it's all relative yeah all relative so we're all human beings like i think the more”

we can all connect and just listen to each other and connect with each other the better equipped it makes us to live within this melting pot of a world which now with the internet is more of a melting pot than ever so we should all continue to learn about each other's cultures and backgrounds

on all of the stories because we're not as different as we thought we were we're younger it's all

“right here it's easy to get i can pick up my phone and i can learn anything about anyone you know”

exactly i can ask chat GPT before i do all right that's all my podcast and literally everything task and everything to know well thank you so much for being here with us it was a pleasure talking with you really great to get to know you better and hear more of your stories i look forward to seeing you guys again on the right definitely you know it's super fun these conventions are super fun because i get to run into people that either i haven't seen in years yep or meet people that

i knew because we were all in the same industry right i don't know personally so it's really

it's really always say it's our high school reunion yeah it's home yeah it's these ridiculous

weekends away where it's like god i don't have to you know because i have four young kids at home it's

“like i don't all of that kind of goes away and we get to have fun dinners and share these fun”

stories exactly and talk about how ridiculous our lives were and the fact that we're all that we're all here together and we're like thank god happy and healthy and doing this and connecting with people well i'll see you with them all yeah thanks for being here thank you so much for having me got a free shot soon bye bye what a good guy man thank you all for listening to this

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