03-03-26 Part Two - Scouting America

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All right, other things going on, let's make sure. Because these are things that are like interesting, scouting America, which used to be the Boy Scouts. >> Right.

>> We'll make changes to several policies after Secretary of War,

Pete Higgs said threatened to pull the department support for the organization. In a video released on Friday,

“Higgs said the organization had agreed to pull all diversity, equity,”

and inclusion initiatives from the organization. What's next, among the changes, scouting America says it will launch a new merit badge that focuses on military service and veterans to make way for the new merit badge. Its citizenship in society merit badges will be discontinued. A description of the badge from scouting America describes it as a way for scouts.

To realize the benefits of diversity, equity, inclusion, and ethical leadership. Okay, that's the badge that's going to be gone. That citizenship in society. A statement from the organization website reads, Citizen of Society merit badge will be discontinued.

Effective Friday, February 27, beginning on February 27, scouts were no longer. Be able to start requirements on citizenship of society merit badge. The badge is previously required for scout to achieve the rank of Eagle Scout. The new guidance says those seeking the rank of Eagle Scout will now have 11 required merit badges and eight selective merit badges to keep the total requirement of 21 total

merit badges. Higgs said in a video that scouting America will require members to use their biological sex at birth and not gender identity. Scouting will also make clear that biological boys and biological girls will not be permitted to share intimate spaces, toilets, showers and tents.

As part of the agreement, the Pentagon said that they would conduct a review of the organization in six months to make sure it's in compliance and would see support if they face violations.

“Ideally, I believe Boy Scouts should go back to being Boy Scouts as originally founded,”

a group that develops boys into men. Scouting America's updates are to comply with the anti-DEI executive order. Scouting America said Friday their conversations with the Department of War were to make updates to the program and comply with the executive order, which ended DEI programs, the organization stopped short of a name change.

We as Scouting said we maintained, our name is Scouting America and preserved our service to the more than 200,000 girls who participate in our programs, girls have been in a report of Scouting since the 1960s, they weren't in explore groups back then. And if served as leaders and programs, developers and cubscouts, you did have you could have women leaders and cubscouts.

And program developers for decades that commitment is unwavering. Scouting America says their partnership straightens their commitment to military families. Now, I'm in Eagle Scout.

You don't say you were you always are in Eagle Scout and they lost me back with all the

whole DEI requirements. They lost me with the whole transgender movement because at that point I said, scouting is about, you know, well, I've been said it a long time, trustworthy loyal, helpful, friendly, courtyous, kind obedient, cheerful, thrifty brave, clean and reverent. I'm still working on the brave one, but you forgot diverse, also equity and inclusion.

Did it change? I don't even know. I don't know if they did. Wow. I did wonder that.

But the one thing you are as a boy scout, you're supposed to be honest. Let's talk to Stephen Tyler that just a bit and as soon as you get, as soon as you've got to that point where you don't recognize biological sex, you've just became political and what I ate about this is what I ate about this with them now a green with it is when

of Washington is now.

“They voluntarily decided to go far left and now you've got the Pentagon saying, you need”

to do this or you lose our support. Now I don't know what the support means. Do they get money? What's the support of the Pentagon? I don't know what that means.

Yeah. I actually don't know. I don't I have no idea what that means when he says you won't get the support of the the Pentagon. Did they realize did they do this because you're going to any liberals who decided to go

into Boy Scouts because they went into the fire left or put their kids in the Boy Scouts now are going to say what we're pulling out. You're getting rid of DEI, we're out.

So what's the point of it, but the the thing about Boy Scouts is they never were political.

“When I was in Boy Scouts, it wasn't political.”

It was about individual growth. And now Democrats get in power. The executive order for DEI goes, then they've got to go back to where they were again. And all of a sudden the Boy Scouts excuse me, scouting America becomes a ping pong of politics, back and forth and back and forth and back and forth.

All right. The Pentagon supports scouting America primarily through logistical aid for the national jamboree every four years and by allowing troop meetings on military basis authorized by Congress, the support includes providing equipment like cops and flags, aiding in recruitment. And as a February 26 is contingent on the organization that would be the update we're talking

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I know this when I became a boy scout, it was on lawful and air force base. And so I'm guessing that was part of that. I just assumed that was because, well, that's where we live. So I don't know. That's where my dad worked.

We actually lived off base at that time. And I was a we blow, we lived on base when I was a club scout, we lived on base. And so I don't know, I mean, I don't know if that was part of the logistical support. I wasn't aware of the Jamboree support. But you know, the boy scout's lost me number one when I got a guitar.

Two story, I started becoming a really poor scout.

There was always this feeling because of my dad's position in the Air Force and chief police

on on Waffland. And this is stupid me as a kid. That I didn't probably didn't even know the word indoctrination. But I kind of felt like, you know, this is my dad indoctrinating me in order to prepare me for the Air Force.

Which would have been a great thing. You know, uniform, everything else. Yeah, yeah. Because my dad wasn't meticulous about his uniform. You mentioned that.

But I mean, my dad, those shoes were polished. They were, and most everybody is, you know, in the military, if you, you know, that's one

“of the things you have to be meticulous about, but he always was.”

And I had always had that structure as a child.

I always the night before laid out my clothes and my aunt Diana always asked me about that. And he still laid your clothes out and I'm like, well, I just kind of leave them laying more so than lay them out. But no, I do. I actually organize my closet.

So I don't have to think about it. I get up and I can get dressed. And it's boom, that's why I only wear during the week black t-shirt and jeans. I get dressed in the dark and I have for 30 years. And that's the easiest option.

And, and it, but it was part of, you know, that idea of a uniform, right? So to that point, the indoctrination certainly worked, be prepared. The fundamental quality of scouting, also, I think, stayed with me.

But that is my goal to be prepared and things through.

“I think it prepared me to be a critical thinker.”

I think that was, you know, part of it because, you know, the expectation for my father was that, you know, you go in and do it right. And then as I grew older, the interest just kind of waned and it was, you know, being a musician was kind of my goal and that's where it was.

But if you look at the organization itself, it was always that standard.

And I do believe, maybe there's part of me that felt that I couldn't live up to the standard, right, didn't have that self confidence. My oldest brother is an Eagle Scout, actually two of my older brothers are Eagle Scouts. And I, and maybe that was part of it. Psychologically, it was like, well, yeah, but I'm just going over here.

You know what I mean? I don't know that I can live up to that, because with my oldest brother with my older brothers, that to me was a standard, not that they were perfect. But in that sense, it really was, you know, and then the third older brother was a superior athlete.

And so I, you know, I look at those things before the organization and the support for the organization.

“And it, it breaks my heart because it always had a special place I believe in society.”

And when it started to change, and again, in this effort to appease, which you were never

going to appease, it, it, it just, to me, it just felt wrong. It felt like the mission statement for the organization was all but gone. For me, it was simple to draw for Boy Scouts. It was camping to get out of the house, to go, to, to, to, to just get out and, and camp. And we used to go, you guys used to camp, like, in the cold, you didn't really have a choice.

You guys went camping in, oh, I remember, we had cabins, I mean, the cabins were great. But I remember when I got the, the polar bear, the polar bear award, and you had to go out and sleep in a tent, think about this, think about how you changed from a kid to an adult. I mean, and, and we could have stayed, you know, the whole point was for polar bear, the entire time you were out there had to be below 32 degrees.

And we would stay basically in a pup tent, two of us would go, and everything would be done outside. I mean, you would do the entire weekend, it'd be like Friday afternoon you'd go to the campsite, you'd be done, you know, Friday, you know, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, Friday or Sunday, then go home.

But then entire time ahead, it'd be below 32 degrees. We were so happy because the first two times we were doing it, it went like to 35, one of the days, so we had to do it a third time in order to get polar bear. And we were, we were so, come on, get above, we wanted to do it again. Think of how insane that is from an adult perspective.

I wanted to be out in a pup tent. You know what I learned though? You're in a pup tent because it got a time to got really cold. Do I learn? Hmm.

You want to know how to keep warm in a sleeping bag, keep your feet warm, boil water, put it in the canteen. Yeah. Take the canteen. No.

Put it at the end of your sleeping bag, and it keeps your feet warm all night. For all of you YouTubers, Boy Scouts have been doing that for a long time. Right? Yeah. Because there's so many YouTubers that go out there and do, you know, the, you know,

“I'm going to, I'm going to build my shelter and stay in it, you know, and I think the”

one I follow and Tony off grid, I think this guy's in Canada, a great channel, he doesn't do any talking at all. But he goes in, he'll build something, a shelter, sometimes he stays in his tent. But a lot of times he's building a shelter and all that. And one of the things is outdoor boys, YouTube channel, which just ended last year, but

had tens of millions of followers, Luke would do that quite often. You know, here's how you can survive.

Also, a, an Eagle Scout, but he would say, here's what, you know, we've done.

You could build, you know, all these shelters and he would do it. He put in, I mean, I don't know how much work. But one of the things that was a common thread in these videos and it's kind of, okay, what would happen if you got stuck out the cold, you know, you learn how to build the fire, right?

And then you gather, you gather, whatever you can, and you, you boil the water, and then you heat it, and then you put it inside, you know, you could wrap it. You can also, depending on, you know, you don't want to too hot, but for this, but you can also lay it on, you know, on your torso, which will also keep your blood flow, you

But it goes back to the boy scout survival.

Well, it was camping the drew me in. Yeah.

“But it wasn't till I got, and I stayed in, I think probably till I was 17, I think.”

So it would have been all the way through, even my senior, but I was participating in lesson. I think they made me what, I forgot what it would be called in a print a scout master or assistant, whatever. Yeah.

As something ambassador or something, when I, yeah. And, and then, but I was still a teenager, I still did a lot of stuff wrong. Right. But it was the camping that gave me the confidence, where, for example, when free solely hit here, yeah, I knew I was fine, no matter if it's no power, no, I can survive.

That kind of confidence has stayed with me, my entire life, as to the character traits of that I recognized fully, after I got out of Boy Scouts, how important those lessons were being pounded into me over and over again, trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverend and be prepared. Be prepared, be prepared, be prepared, be prepared, that has carried me through my life.

And I realized, even though I didn't embrace all of those in my teenage years, that the

“repetition of those lessons taught me was, that's how you become confident and successful”

in life. Yeah. I think in emulating my father, when I was, I mean, a kid, the moment I started, you know, kindergarten, you know, getting my clothes out, laying them out before now. By the way, there's a selfish reason for that, because with three older brothers, you

wanted to be the first to the breakfast table, otherwise you weren't going to eat, there

would be no food left. But my dad, I think, saw that in me kind of emulating him, which ironically turned out to be long-term, me not having the confidence to live up to my older brothers. And I think there was something to that, but scouting was very good to me. I may not have been very good for scouting, but scouting was very good for me.

And then afterwards, as I got into this, I had so much fun racing for them. I wanted to do that. Sure. And I've lost it, and I don't know if that will come back or not. Yeah.

I don't know. But I mean, I just loved because I realized how beneficial it was to me. But I don't know if they can recover even now, because now they become a political ping-pong ball. Yes. And that's a shot.

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All right, we mentioned this to start the show and we never got into the details because

we had so much else to cover, but this is really worth talking about because it's a second amendment issue and there's a headline from SkodaSplog. By the way, if you ever want a good place and we've recommended SkodaSplog before, you get, for example, on the terrifus last week, everybody went tribal to begin with. Yeah, right.

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SkodaSplog.com. Does it mean? SkodaSplog.com, yeah. And she writes, this is Amy Howe, the Supreme Court of Monday was skeptical that the indictment of a Texas man on charges that he violated a federal law prohibiting the possession of

a gun by users of illegal drugs could go forward.

Well, the attorney argued that the law violates the second amendment which guarantees the

right of the people to keep in bear arms as it applies to him and a majority of the justices appear to agree. Let's just set up the actual case, so in 2022, agents found a pistol, marijuana and cocaine in Oli Hemenis home, Hemeni told the agents that he used marijuana roughly every other day.

For many was charged with violating a federal law that makes it a crime for anyone who was an unlawful user or addicted to any controlled substance to have a gun. A federal trial judge threw out the charge at Hemeni's request, the U.S. District Judge relied in a recent decision by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the fifth circuit that held that the law used to indict her many is unconstitutional when it is used to charge someone

who may have used drugs regularly, but was not shown to be under the influence of drugs when he had the gun, the Court of Appeals upheld that ruling, prompting the federal government to go to the Supreme Court. Now the interesting thing as the Wall Street Journal laid out, you'd be wondering, well, what's going on here?

The under the High Court's landmark decision, the Bruin decision in 2022, the government must prove that today's gun laws are consistent with this nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation. Since then, lawyers and judges have hit the books to see how the founding era, the founding fathers handled arms and whiskey, but what level of generality is appropriate for the

analysis. The Bruin test requires finding only a representative historical analog not a historical twin. Mr. Hemeni said he owned the handgun for self defense and used marijuana a few days a week. The federal government concedes the gun charge against him, rest on his pot usage, not

that he was intoxicated when they, when they, when using a gun or holding a gun. Through the larger context, the Fed's alleged he admitted taking cocaine and that he's also a drug dealer, but this applies to the pot. The two sides agree that the founders had no problem barring intoxicated people from caring

“guns, but what about a drug user who is not high at the moment?”

The government argues that a robust tradition of restricting the rights of habitual drunkards even during sober intervals, you know, it applies to you, such, such you can't prove I'm sober, such people could be sent to jails or workhouses a bigger loss of liberty than disarmament and they're closely analogous to habitual drug users.

those who abitually abused alcohol, citing Samuel Johnson's dictionary as defining the term

“based on excessive use of strong lickers, while the US government presumably sees all”

unlawful drug consumption, including a few times a week, as excessive the federal form for buying a gun, as about drug use, and it's specifically warns that marijuana is illegal under federal law.

The second argument by Mr. Hemeni is that these presidents fail the brewing test because

they're too far afield, really a hodgepodge of dissimilar regulatory regimes, most of which have nothing to do with the misuse of firearms, while drunkards could be covered by early vagrancy laws, so were palm readers and fiddlers, he said, got to get rid of those fiddlers, fiddlers, fiddlers should not be armed ever again, he said surely the government doesn't

“mean to suggest that fortune tellers and street performers may be deprived of their second”

amendment rights, complicating all of this as a dozens of states now have legalized pot. You know, if the justice is say the US lacks a tradition of disarming people who frequently take illegal substances with that president's sweet past marijuana for other drugs, I mean, this is like, well, let's listen to Gorsuch and then we'll count it. Yeah, this is very interesting here. This is really interesting from Gorsuch, here we go,

it bet the back and forth. All right, one can ask whether the habitual drunkards' statues

are sufficiently how and why, is sufficiently analogous. One can also ask though more basically,

whether this defendant would qualify as a habitual user, and I want to explore that before we lose track of it. A habitual drunkard, the American Temperance Society back in the day, said eight shots of whiskey a day only made you an occasional drunkard. We have to remember the founding era if you

“want to invoke the founding era. To be a habitual drunkard you had to double that, okay?”

John Adams took a tankard of hard cider with his breakfast every day. James Madison reportedly drank a pint of whiskey every day. Thomas Jefferson said he wasn't much of an user of alcohol, he only had three or four glasses of wine a night, okay? Are they all habitual drunkards who would be properly disarmed for life under your theory? No, and again, I think this is something. Okay, if they're not, then what do we know about Mr. Amani? We know he uses marijuana

a few times about every other day. That's all we have in the record, right? That's all we have in the record. Okay, so we don't even know the quantity of how much he uses every other day. What if he took one gummy bear with a medical prescription in Colorado? Well, you've made not even need a medical prescription. You don't even need that anymore. But let's say you had one to help him sleep every other day.

Disarm him for life? Hmm, so very interesting questions here because in 22, Amani was found by the FBI with marijuana and cocaine, right? And admitted to being a drug dealer. So there are other patterns of behavior here. And of course, it's points out, but be clear. They're not looking at at those. It's strictly the marijuana part

of it. Right. But also that marijuana is not legal in Texas and it's also federally not legal. Right. And so if he's from Texas, is it a different standard based on illegal activity on the state level?

Really, I mean, the second amendment is the constitution.

But do the states have the right, but this goes back to the, again, the FBI background check and whether or not he would qualify based on the federal standards. And they're in so, but extrapolated out. And I guess, go ahead, go ahead. Well, to extrapolate it out, you know, he he points out, horses points out. All right, okay, let's go to a legal state where, you know, he didn't require it, but let's say he had a medical prescription for THC product to

help him sleep. You know, what would be the consideration there? You know, how many people have prescriptions? The of various degrees that you shouldn't be operating a vehicle while you're

does this fall into that category when we talk recreational use?

You know, industry has a right, a company in the private sector can come back and say and it's being tested in courts, but I believe they have a right to say, look, sorry, you can't, you can't do drugs. Now, having said that, they also have a right depending on what you do for the job, what your, what your role is in that job, operating heavy equipment or driving equipment. You also can't drink at any time. My brother,

in fact, at one time was working for a company that said, you can't drink off duty. And the reason was is because part of the job required him to be on call 24/7, but you don't go to jail for that, but you know, you don't go to jail for that. That's the point,

“but if we're, if we're talking about, you know, and that's why I pointed out that's in the”

private sector, right? We've seen all these with, with the advent of recreational marijuana, the legalization in many states, and it's growing. And I think you could add the hemp laws in Texas, right? I mean, because the hemp laws in Texas still allow for some level of intoxication. Well, that's, that's the other point too. The federal government allows, still allows those hemp-based products to be sold legally. Even in Texas where marijuana by the state law

is illegal, by the state law is illegal. The federal government, which says marijuana is illegal,

basically the same substance in a different form, is legal by federal law. And so they got into

that discussion to about ambient. So if somebody, I was about to mention it. And so somebody is a prescription, and as ambient has a gun that's okay, but if they don't have a, they don't have

“a prescription and own a gun, then it is illegal. And they ask the question, well, what are you punishing?”

Are you punishing somebody breaking the law or the substance? Are you worried about the substance? In toxicating someone, what exactly is this law about? Ultimately, it would, for me, ultimately, it should be the concern for the altered state of mind, right? Yes, the based on any substance. Because the story is about ambient, and I don't know how many there are, but the story is about ambient of people getting up and basically cooking a full-on meal in the middle of the night,

not remembering at the next morning. Right? I don't know, again, to what extent that exists.

I have no experience with ambient. I've never taken it with the fact that I don't sleep much,

maybe there should be consideration. But I don't, I don't take that, so I don't have any experience with that. But we know the stories of certain sleep medications, not just ambient, and other medications that do alter, and you could say this, not only judgment, but motor skills. And these are legal medications, assuming they're prescribed and being followed by the patient as directed. Can I take an anti-histament? Well, I just mentioned to you, I had to take one

yesterday, the kind that is, you know, it isn't the non-drowsy formula, and I just felt sluggish all morning, and it was like, oh, man, I got things to do. Right. If you take the, it didn't make me sleepy, it just made me sluggish. But a lot of people that take the same dosage of what I took, diphanhydramine, which is benederal, and diphanhydramine hydrochloride, it is 25 milligrams, and doesn't affect me the same way. But other people are out like a light

“if they take one. You know, so again, what is it? How about being too tired? I think it might be”

a narrow ruling just on marijuana. I think there would be, there's no way they, I sense it there would be. Yeah, I can do that the same way. Right. Pass it, but you've got to try it, like, trip or my James micro dosing. Yeah, you know, but whatever it might be, yeah, no, they're, you know, they're have to be satisfied. I'm using the 60's term. Yeah, man. We are right, I radio. Get in touch with what I radio told free at 866. Thank you, Red Eye.

Amy Howe, who's usually pretty good at this and said, seemed to be a lot of sympathy

“from the majority of the court for the defendant in this case. Yeah, it was interesting. Yeah,”

that I didn't even know to be honest with you. I didn't know until I saw the story yesterday

that this was before this ring court. No, I didn't either. I saw it a couple of days ago,

“somebody previewed the case, and that's the first time I learned about it, yeah.”

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