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In part one of Red Eye Radio with Gary McNamara and Eric Harley, we begin with comparisons between ousted DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and incoming Secretary Senator Markwayne Mullin amid reports of inte...

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whatever time it is, where you are, we hope you're having a good time. Yeah. All right, my audio cut of the week. And I'm saying my because I didn't ask you yet. All right, I don't care, so go ahead.

Oh, okay. It would be R, but I didn't throw it. We didn't have time because our pre-show meeting was so busy. I forgot to bring this one up. No, all right.

This is the guy from the Kato Institute,

that would not answer the question on sanctuary cities,

or whether illegal immigration should be illegal, he just would not do it. He was just, he was playing games with both Lindsey Graham and John Senator Kennedy. But here we go.

You ready? Okay. All right. When I talk about population purge, I'm talking about the fact that they're trying to deport

US-born citizens. People born here. They are trying to deport them as well. So it's not a mass deportation agenda. It is also an agenda intended to reduce the population

of the United States, including US-born people. Thank you. So these are not like proposed statements. I appreciate you reading my account. I appreciate you.

Here's the good news. What plan? Well, if you just wait a minute, I'm just trying to-- What plan? Did you just parachute you?

No, no, no. Hey, guys. You triggered my gag reflex. So-- All right, that's the Kato Institute.

That's how far insane have they gone. They used to be a legitimate conservative libertarian think tank. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Not anymore. They're-- Now, he's not saying they're trying to denaturalize naturalized citizens that has come up, you know,

people that commit or wish to commit terrorist acts or have been convicted of terrorism that are naturalized. I still don't know how the Supreme Court would look at that. But that's an entirely different-- he's not saying that.

What he's saying is, basically, the Trump administration

is attempting to deport US-born citizens. And then he says it's not a hyperbolic statement. Right. Well, of course it is. Because you say it is, you have zero credibility

and for God's sake, get a new haircut. Yeah. Yeah. It's a flat out lie. And, you know, it's-- but it's--

you got to keep it going on the left. And I guess we can put Kato Institute on the left now. No. No. Crazy.

Yeah. I-- I'm sorry. That isn't that synonymous with-- What-- what did I miss? [laughter]

Those-- those do are interchangeable. Yeah. It's just insanity. And, you know, it's-- But I guess that's the play now.

I guess that's the play over the top insanity. They're not going to debate anything, but you know, they have been avoiding the debate any debate for so long. I actually think we're at the point where the left

doesn't know how to debate. Because knowing how to debate would also require

critical thinking to the point of

making sure what you say is going to follow through, right?

I mean, they jumped to the whole-- well, you're a big-- you're a racist and everything else. Just to take the debate off the table. And because they thought it would end the debate. Now, just go back to crazy.

Well, we may be to the point where there's been-- now, it's been so long this newer generation just doesn't know how to debate.

They don't even know what the truth is themselves.

They have no idea. And I think that's where we are. I think we're just at the point of them being so bad, super crazy,

that there's no thought put into debate.

You don't have any critical thinking skills whatsoever.

Otherwise, you would know that that's a stupid answer that's going to be destroyed. In a moment, it's going to be destroyed. And Senator John Kennedy did just that. What planet did you just parachute in from?

Yeah. What in the hell was wrong with you? I know. It's like you can't-- It can't.

And we've said this because when you take, when you take Trump out of the debate, and you take the major ten issues that he believes in, the vast majority. Now, we talked about the vast majority of--

what was it? It was over 60% back when the president took office believed that anybody in the country legally should be deported. Maybe it was even above 60%.

When they attempted to do it, the public said, "We don't like to see how it's made." We don't--we don't like this. We don't like violence in the streets,

and therefore if that's what it takes to do it,

what they're saying is we don't want to see how the sausage is made. Just do it and keep it quiet.

And basically, that's the home in philosophy.

Did you see that? We saw the article that Holman was trying to communicate now and have a relationship with Mark Wayne Mullin, because apparently he didn't talk to known for a year. They couldn't even talk of now.

Whether the story is true, I haven't heard him say whether the story is true or not. But it wouldn't be surprising if that was the case. Yeah, well, we know for sure that Christy Known's approach was not the same as Holmes.

I mean, it was a polar opposite, actually. You know, the question we had from that approach under Christy Known was why would you do that?

Why would you put the agents first of all

in a situation like that? If that approach has people keenly aware in all these areas where these protesters are going to come out and obstruct. You think if you think that's a win, you're wrong.

You know, it's hard to know what comes from the top anymore. You know, the story that came out with the DOJ and the thing on the lawyers and President Trump saying the other day, well, the story came out the other day. I don't know when he said it exactly.

But he said, I didn't sign off on that. I don't know why we did this. Because the DOJ had to back off their move. And I'm thinking to myself, well, wait a minute here. You know, again, where's the mix message?

Because going in January of 25, it didn't seem like there was one mixed message, no confusion at all. No, it adhered. And as he filled out his cabinet, it appeared.

Okay, everybody seems to be on board for his agenda. We're wherever that's going. And right now, the only one I can say, I guess, hagseth, but aside from that, Marco Rubio. And the Secretary of State, the job requires you to do what

Marco Rubio is doing, even though John Kerry did the opposite and Hillary Clinton didn't care to do the job.

Marco Rubio is doing the job as you should as Secretary of State.

So far, but you saw the story came out that, that, I think, Axios said the story. The White House denied it. They said it's not true. That Trump came out and said stop sane mass deportation.

Stop using those words. Yeah. Now, I'll say this. I saw a story yesterday from Buffalo. You know, they're building the new stadium.

Five people were detained. That they're in the country illegally.

Now, the Democrats all jumped on this and said,

They're in the country legally, they're in the country legally.

And then they started saying, well, if they're in the country legally, and the ISIS saying, no. Right. You know, these people overstate visas. Right.

And the other two, I think they said, we're in illegally.

And it was interesting the way that the media was covering was, of course, that, you know, the blame goes to the Trump administration. But you look at the responses even from liberal Buffalo. And it was like, look, they're in the country illegally. If they find them, you know, right.

And there was no confrontation. You know, I mean, that nobody in the public knew about it. And that's what we said should be done. Don't put. That was the problem that we had.

Don't put.

These ice members or border patrol members in danger.

How, how were these leaks happening? Right. Right. Right. Why were the people there as, you know, with, this is a large country.

You can do all this stuff. You can do this without the confrontation. And that's what we asked the question. Because I believe that people like Stephen Miller and know him wanted the confrontations to go public.

Right. They wanted it to be on the nightly news. They thought it would benefit them. Right. And that super crazy protesters would work in their favor as they were demonstrating

that they were going to obstruct it every turn. And that started, you know, right away. And the leaks, the leaks is kind of a separate issue, but it plays into everything. And because remember going back to the apartment complex in Colorado when they got there, this was early on.

And that gang that's violent gang that had taken over that complex. And they were gone. Somebody gave them a heads up.

And so you have to assume there's leaks within your organization.

But also you have to take the approach that is, you know, considers that and then goes beyond that. In order to make sure you're going to be able to carry out the mission of finding whoever, whoever it might be that you're looking for, your targets. And also not putting those ice agents in danger.

But when you look overall, if you take Trump's name out of it on all the major issues, people favor what he believes in the United States, that's what's maddening for most of us. And is the fact when you know the public is on your side, yet you cannot implement or communicate effectively that when you do it,

a public agrees with you. Right. Yeah. It's like, well, no, we want this done, but we don't want him doing it. Right.

Now you can look at it and say, okay, there's a problem with the public. Yeah. And there is. And there is. And we said, yes, there is a problem with the public.

But when you look at, I just, I just looked to see if there was any, apology from Paul Begallet yet, you know, on the whole lobster thing. And he was saying, what did talking, I mean, they just got burned big time on that. And a lot of stories written on it. And it's like, and one of the things came out of it is the fact that the left is so ignorant

about how the military works. Yeah. They don't care. There's been a ton of articles written on that. We read one yesterday from National Review through Ray Abel wrote it and said,

that's the thing.

And all they care about the military is it is, can we use it to our political advantage?

A death. Okay. Good. We can use that to our political advantage. Right.

But when it comes to actually understanding or wanting to understand how the military works, they don't want to know how the military works. They don't care how the military works. It's simply another political, our, they believe of the federal government that they can use for their own advantage. Even when lying about it.

Yeah. Right. But I just looked it up. I just did a quick search to public, apologize yet. No.

Well, I didn't see did Scott Jennings on CNN go after him. Did that come up?

That's something I would never let go of.

I was Scott Jennings. I did searches of a so far social media. I haven't seen of Scott Jennings said, look, a Gallagher on here in line or through all false information. Right.

And you people just let this thing go as if it didn't happen. Let's go to the next thing. No. We're going to stick with this for a while. Right.

No. I mean, it appeared. It was it was being if you just look at all the stories that were written by the leftist media about it. It appeared.

Well, these are going to be the new talking points.

And we said, expect this happening where you saw now, you know, the whole, you know, the whole story that came out police warn ABC exclusive police FBI warns police in California that Iran wants to retaliate for US attacks by launching drones against the West Coast according to alert reviewed by ABC news.

What they left out was unverified reports.

Yeah. Right. They were simply saying, we got these unverified reports. Right. We don't can verify.

We don't think it's true at all, but we just want you to know. There's a, but it was one unverified report that they got that was it in the White House coming and goes, look, there is no evidence that this exists. And you and I questioned that yesterday, whether Iran has the ability to actually do that. Right. We went away.

I don't know. Well, you know, is, is that, is that something that the Iranian regime is throwing out in order to, you know, politically, you know, affect public opinion in the United States and to further terrorize, which is what terrorists do. Right. You know, put that out there.

I saw a couple of analysts that said, look, it's, it's a broad scope. There is nothing specific here, but the media latches onto it as if it's something real every time.

And again, they leave out the most important part.

Even when it says sources say, source stories mean deadly and squat. You'll know it by the end of the weeks. Sometimes it takes that long for the truth to get to the surface as to what's going on. But I don't trust anyone source anymore. But again, just, you just assume, right?

The head on the swivel, but the left, it was the left, it killed sources and journalism. Oh, yeah. Russia, oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a completely source story con job.

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That was because of the United States involvement in the first Gulf War and had long-term impact.

I'm saying that when we take actions across the world, there are consequences that we don't anticipate that can happen years later. When we wonder why people are coming after us and attacking us, because we're attacking them. What are the first World Trade Union? What was the first World Trade Union? What was the first World Trade Union?

I think that's irrelevant to this moment. I think we're going to move on. I think you just defeated our argument.

That's what Abby Phillips does that all the time.

We're going to move on from that. Yes it is. It absolutely is. You want to go back to the beginning. Oh, you don't want to go back to the actual beginning.

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Use Red Eye at the drop down for your three week quick start at 1995. I love old man grunt. I just think it's a comedian comedian told me that his son who's a toddler. He was he was imitating his dad. And he actually the comedian actually does this in a bit too, but he says,

No, this guy, he said, this little guy imitating his grandfather all the time. So when he sits down, the little kid goes, or when he stands up, he goes, because he's spending so much time with his grandfather. You know, probably was the case even when my grandkids were smaller. They probably, he just makes those noises.

You know, I suggest if you've ever done the old man grunt in the morning,

you have to watch the first two minutes of North Dallas 40.

Yeah. That give me from the 70s. Yeah. What's his name? I can't think of his name the actor.

Oh. Oh. I got my blank here on the actor. Nick Nolti. Yeah.

Yeah. Nick Nolti and he's a, he's a wide receiver for the team. Yeah. And they just played, this was like a day after the game. And him getting out of bed.

Yeah. Is the best thing ever. Yeah.

And I know we've all felt that way at some point.

He was perfect for that part. He really was. You know, you and I have actually worked with former pro athletes. And you know, they walk a little slower. That's not especially football players.

We've actually seen them in those moments walking in the hallways back in the day when they had a studio. We actually used to have the same parent company. It's ESPN. And you would see those those former pro ball players.

Many of them just move very slowly. Yeah. Because of all of the things that they went through, you know, to play games. I'm so happy. Yeah.

That not now at this age.

That I never seriously got in that that I didn't have the ability.

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get the opportunity because they wouldn't let me play against women. I'm sorry. I never got the opportunity to play.

I'm undefeated. I'm undefeated. I'm undefeated. Oh my gosh. That has to be the that has to be the best quote of the week.

No, that's the that's the quote of the it's a contender for quote of the year. And it's only March. My gosh. It's nothing wrong with men playing in women's sports. I did it.

I wrestled women. In fact, I'm undefeated against women. My gosh. That's seriously is an Andy Kaufman moment. It was just as funny as Andy Kaufman doing it back in the day.

Man.

It's. That's. That's.

It's the guy running for a Senate in New Hampshire.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. We said that. Yeah.

There's no problem with guys playing in girls sports. This whole, this whole radical gender thing is just a billion air trying to change the topic from high taxes. Yeah. And I know I wrestled women in 2003.

And I was undefeated. I was undefeated. I was undefeated. Oh my god.

But I'm so happy that I never didn't have the ability to play professional sports.

I don't care that to me now. Yeah. As an old guy being able to just have, you know, just a few aches and pains here. Yeah. Is so much more preferable to, you know, taking those hits that mean you see some of those

hits. For example, some of the hits in hockey. Yeah. You're like, my gosh, you could hit like 1,000 when you're career. Yeah.

Probably what? Two, three, four, 5000 times. Right. And it's like, it gets to you when you're in your 50s. Yeah.

One of the things in the North Dallas 40. The late great Ron Chapman is on the radio when Nick. No, he's up. Right. Right.

Yeah. And I'll play it for some people and I just love hearing Ron because when I was in Texas in the 80s, you know, that was like, wow, Ron Chapman was just playing. Yeah.

And then I'll never forget never ever forget.

I think it was probably 2002 or 2003. And there I'm at the state fair of Texas doing my local radio show from WBAP here. And this guy comes walking up to me and he just says, hey, Gary, this nice to meet you. Ron Chapman. Do you Ron Chapman?

Yeah. I'll never forget. I get a little bit, um, and so the only time I met him, but I still get a little bit emotional. Because he really emphasized to me that what we get to do here in talk radio.

And it helped make me rethink the entire job that I do because I never wanted to do this.

I didn't search to be a talk radio host and owner, you know, the story forced me to do it. And he said, you get the opportunity to express exactly what you think on every topic, every single day. Most of us never get a chance to do it. Always appreciate that you get to do that. It always makes me a little bit emotional because then when he died a few years later, just made me so sad because it was one of the thing.

It made me rethink everything that in this country. You know, and we don't get it anymore, but we used to get, well, it's the military and industrial complex. It's telling you what to do. And people really find it incredible that really for 99%. Well, every major corporation that I ever were for.

I worked for some local owners and a general manager one time that once and I don't like what you're talking about. And I don't like your opinion. I don't care. I hired me. I'm not going to give my opinion. And it's not a radical opinion.

In fact, I would, I would say you have the radical opinion here, but besides that one time.

Never, right now they're saying the military industrial complex thing.

We know when there's going to be, you know, a bunch of serious stories because there's steak and lobster in the break room. Ooh, this is going to be a long night. But it's really, I mean, you think about it. And I do often now.

I do, you know, I think about it more as, as I get older.

Because I think about, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. Yeah. You're trying to figure out -- I still don't know what the hell you're doing. Well, okay, but, but I do.

Well, I guess that's all the matters. I understand my insanity. You don't need to understand. Okay. I feel, but I don't know what the --

I don't know what the -- I don't know what you know. You know how it is when you first get -- when somebody tells you, go on the air and give your beliefs. There's a threshold you've got across. And if you don't do it, then you shouldn't be in it.

If you don't want to do it, then you shouldn't be in it. And it's not the same probably now, but I think the majority of us, when you go back 30 years ago, you know, 30 to 40 years ago, when modern talk radio started, a lot of those talk show hosts came from music radio.

Yeah.

Right. You know, I mean, I know music talk show hosts that bailed on it. They were pretty good, but they bailed on it because they said I'm just not comfortable doing this. I've been in music radio for such a long time. I know a couple of guys that I know one guy that was told to me after he was doing it for a year.

I knew his boss and said I was just close to firing him because he would not give -- he would get on the air. And I did it to begin with. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm not really left. I'm not really right. You know, I need to hear all the, you know, the blah, blah, blah, blah. Who said it the other day? Somebody said it the other day.

Oh, what's his name from landman? You know, I'm a radical moderate. Shut up. Yeah. Say what your opinion is, and then I can tell you what you are.

Stop right. The radical moderate. I take what both sides say.

And this is where independent Bob and I used to always get into the arguments along long time ago.

Yeah. Well, I look at both side. You know, you have a definitive right wing opinion. And I look like there's a greater morality. I look at both sides of the issue and then I come down on the moderate side.

What the hell does that mean? Where do you stand on the issue?

Yeah. I don't think air don't explain to me in an umbrella way, you know, without getting to the specifics. Get to the specifics. What do you believe in? Why do you believe it? Right.

And I will admit, sometimes we get to caught up in the labels because the labels change over the years. What a conservative is has changed. Right. I hear it all the time, but this guy's a good conservative. And I'm like, now, 20 years ago, they're a populist liberal.

Well, you know, the advent of social media really now requires. And the far left, the radicals. They require famous people to be on the left. They do. It's, you know, Kevin James.

You know, the recent comments by Kevin James. Basically, I'm just going to stay out of it. And then all of a sudden, he's the devil for not wanting to tow the line for the radical. Right. He's secret maga.

Yeah. Exactly.

You know, and it's, he has a very funny bit about Nick Nolty meeting Nick Nolty.

It's, it's hilarious bit. But it's, it is that, it's, it's that thing. And there are plenty of Hollywood types. I know someone in Hollywood that's had a pretty great career from Texas. And for the longest time, then I'm guessing still today.

Couldn't talk about going to Texas and going hunting for deer in the whole country. He would just tell his colleagues in Hollywood. But I'm going to see my mom in Texas. And then he and his mom would grab a gun and go, go shoot some deer.

But Billy Bob Thornton, so when it was, I think it's on Rodin.

I'm a radical moderate. Yeah. Yeah. You have a set of beliefs, you know. And I think he's a great actor.

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I think my point was when he talked about the fact that oil prices are good for America.

It's that we benefit from that because we make a lot of money. Look, you couldn't sell that on tariffs. Why is he trying to sell that now? It's because it's going to hypothesis. It's because he's going to cut his goal now is to get rid of it.

He's made the decision to get rid of the regime.

He knows oil prices are going to be high until this ends.

And therefore, he views it as the only argument that he can make. Right. You can't sell it politically that high oil prices are good. There's nobody not one consumer who buys gasoline is going to agree with that unless. You believe that, well, what he's saying is, this is going to be temporary, which it will be.

This is going to be temporary until we cut off the risk.

I think that would be a better way to put it because nobody buys the fact that that we will be making money.

The oil companies will be making money.

And is that bad for America? No, because then they can invest it more. And we can even create more energy. But he didn't explain it that way. Right.

You know, he made it that if they benefit, we benefit. We might indirectly down the road, but we don't benefit right now out of our, out of our wallets and pocket books. But I guess the point. I'm meant, does that show them the statement afterwards that he has not made the regime, it's made the decision. We're getting rid of the regime one way or another.

We cannot sit there and let them stay because the people have, we've got to get the people that are willing to revolt.

I think it was a sense CNN where they talked, the New York Times talked to an engineer that said,

the Iranian people don't want the bombing to end. If the bombing ends right now, they believe the regimes and power. You need to keep the bombing up. That the whole thing about, you know, the school or whatever, they understand there's going to be collateral damage. The, the point was the majority of Iranians know that there's going to be collateral damage.

It's the American left that wants to use that, you know, to attack the president, but the Iranian people themselves actually wanted to continue because they believe of it ends right now. The regime isn't ended. And so their future is done, their future is done at that point because it will just be even more brutal from this point on.

The other thing is, because I've seen a lot of, a lot of discussion about, you know, how come the, the Americans, you know, they didn't, you know, and Israelis didn't see the fact that the straightive hormones could be a problem.

Well, they probably did and talking about the island that you're talking about, you're, this is a different type of war because you're attempting to get rid of the regime without destroying the infrastructure of the people if you can get regime change. Let's say you get rid of everybody, there's a revolution, the people are out on the streets, they welcome back. Because this would be your hope, this is what they, this is what Trump lined out. Your hope would be, and the Iranian people are excited about it in the opposition groups are excited about it.

It's not that they're not in agreement with the president, but if you get there, you do want at that point the oil money available immediately. Or as soon as possible, so you don't, you might not want to unless it's a desperate, last chance that you know you can't defeat them unless you get rid of it. Yeah, you don't want to be destroying the infrastructure because you want the country to rebound as quickly as possible. Again. That, that is my best guess. I have no verification of it, but just what they've lined out as to what they want.

You want a random to be able to rebound immediately if you get rid of the regime. Carg Island is this island that that I was referring to, and the actual play wouldn't be to take it out.

It would basically be controlled. You would do that with a naval blockade.

And if you can take control of that island, then you preserve what would be required for the rebuilding of the nation under new leadership after the regime is gone. Because they will need those exports in order to pay for rebuilding and also growing their economy going forward. But if you can take, if you can take control of Carg Island through a naval blockade, which we're very capable of doing. Then you end and you can control those ports along the straight. There was a warning given to civilians and others to kind of get out of the way because it basically, that coming from the US.

That report got out and that tells you that they're going to go after these mineships we already know they're already doing that.

They don't want the mines in the straight or foremost, they want again.

It's not necessarily business as usual, but they want things flowing in the straight.

But if you can control that island, Carg Island until the regime is done, you can choke them out and you can have a greater chance going forward. Again, rebuilding and then improving the economic status of their nation and the people of Iran. You know, one of the things I considered the other day was you see all these pictures of the of citizens from Iran. You know, but holding the picture of the former, I had told the one that was killed. And they seem to be in mourning.

That's to, I think, a large extent going to be generational, but it's also very limited.

And you have to keep in mind because the liberal media was, you know, putting those pictures out there.

The majority of Iranians want this kind of change and know that they don't have a future without this kind of change. That there won't be or aren't any citizens who follow the Iatala and believe in that kind of rule. I don't know, I can't explain that, but the overwhelming majority of people in Iran do not want that kind of rule. I think some of those who support who show public support for the former Iatala and have in the past before he was killed. I think do that out of intimidation.

Well, you have, you probably have, you know, I think it's roughly a little over 90 million people in Iran.

Yeah, you may have 10 million people or 20 million people that benefit and have benefited from the regime both economically speaking.

And because their families are employed by the government, right, that entire, you know, what do you call it?

I'm trying to think of a schematic of who benefits from it. You know, there is a point though when they finally realize they're at the point of no return, it's not going to happen anymore, that they have to make a decision. But I can see, you know, when you had that couple of thousand people come out and, you know, support the, you know, new supreme leader. I went, well, yeah, you're going to get that. Well, I think people of people whose lives have dependent on the regime are going to defend the regime until they realize it's not in their best interest anymore.

But yeah, and I think it can be, in fact, all the above, it people who either work or have family members that are working in the military and the government that are have to be loyal and have to express their loyalty. And also those who are intimidated by the regime and believe, I've got to do this in order to preserve my own life along the way.

I can't be seen as a protester until they're gone. Yeah. And so I think that's what we're looking at.

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Again, there's no really, there's no mixing of words.

Yeah, right.

You know, it's, we're going to get, we're going to get regime change here.

Right. We're going to get rid of these people. This has been 40, he lays it out again, which is why I've said I have no idea why they haven't done a prime time address on this. No idea why they haven't. Should have been done within a few days. Yeah.

Um, I don't know if they don't see the benefit of it. If they say, okay, look, we can do everything. Since truth, social, every truth, social post is covered by every media group. Maybe we don't need to do it, but I think you do.

I think you need to do that on top of everything else.

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He is here, currently, and I'm Gary McNamara. A story that came out in the last day or so on the, on the, on the, on the, the tariff refunds. Right. Really interesting that you're, you're not going to have to file a, a lawsuit to get it back. Uh, no judge eaten in the case in the, this is the trade court judge is saying,

customs already has a system in place, which they do. What happens is the importers initially pay an estimate. Right. And then through a process called liquidation, which takes up to a year or so. It's determined if that estimate was correct or not.

If they paid too much in that estimate, CBP issues, customs issues, them are refunded. If they didn't pay enough, then they have to pay customs more. It's that simple. He says, so you've already got this.

There are anywhere from the estimates are 72 to 75 million entries

in terms of imports during those, that tariff period that Trump put into place. And what customs is saying now is, we have no idea how we're going to process 72 to 75 million. To 330,000 importers, they say, right. And there's 75 basically transition and he's saying, well, you're going to, you're going to have to do it.

And that's what they, they came back and, and he put in place this 180 days.

Basically, if, uh, if they've gone through, uh, liquidation, then they're, oh, the refund right away. If they haven't, then they'll go through that process. And he put this 180 day timeline on, which basically tells all these importers, you have 180 days to file.

But, but again, it appears that, well, if they imported during that time, you've already filed. He also said, eaten the judge here said, we don't need them to file lawsuits. This is going to be a refund, and it's going to be any use of words every penny. And customs already knows how to do this. We're not going to require them to file a lawsuit.

And he said, he said, you know, imagine the short period of time because, like 2,000 cases in 60 days, they can't do 2,000 cases in 60 days. And it was brought up by, uh, representation for, for customs that, well, just as, uh, justice, uh, Amy County, uh, County Barrett said, then her ruling, this is going to be messy.

And he says, I don't think so. The process is already there. It's going to be tedious. There's no doubt. Nobody can make the case.

If you're looking at 72 to 75 million entries,

they're going to be tedious.

Well, but the, the point, I think the judge is making is if you did it one way,

you can just reverse it. Yes. If you have the account, and the Trump administration said, the system is more than 40% developed and that additional performance testing will take place

In the next few weeks.

Right. So you're not talking about years for this money. No.

To be refunded, especially if you've already done, what do they call it?

Liquidization liquidization liquidization. Yeah, that to me, this is a wrong word to use. Yeah, it's just, it's just the word they did. It's just, yeah. And because liquidation sounds like you're filing bankruptcy or something,

but it's basically just settling the accounts.

You estimated what you were going to pay and whether you overpaid or underpaid, and that, you know, they figure that out. And so many of these companies already know exactly how much they paid into it. Now, the interesting thing is the judges not, you know, because you and I said, well, wait a minute, you're going to have to figure out.

But to figure out, okay, the company had to pay this amount in the, you know, in the tariff. Right. Well, how much did you raise prices? Because if you raise prices, you don't get that money.

Judges even worried about that. Well, yeah, because what he's saying here is the liquidation process is all we have to worry about because if you think about what they, what those importers paid. And if, you know, the, at the end of it, and they will have six months to go through if they haven't gone through that liquidation process,

basically six months, 180 days, to get those who haven't completed liquidation on these tariffs.

To go through that liquidation process to determine how much they're owed with interest. Now, he allowed the customs an extra 45 days to try and figure out how they're going to do this. Okay. The executive director of the C, the customs trade policy and programs department wrote that on each of these components, there's four different components in the software and now between 40 and 80% developed.

Yeah, right.

And that's what he was the judge, Eden was saying, look, you know how to do this.

That the process is already in place, figuring out the rest of it. And this is what customs is asking for a little bit of extra time here. We need an extra 45 days so that we can get on top of this, you know, roughly six weeks. So we can get on top of this and, and fulfill the order. I mean, comply with the order from the court.

And that is, that's going to be what's interesting here. Because every day, as the judge mentions, it's, there's interest, it's tacked onto it. I don't know, it none of the stories have mentioned how they've, or if they've addressed. Law your fees. There's a lot of companies that you might have to follow lawsuit for that one.

Yeah, I would think that would be set damage. It was right. Yeah, these duties must now be refunded with interest, and the clock is ticking the judge route in the Friday order, which means every day that goes by. Yeah.

The American public is being taxed for the interest. Yeah, because that's nobody else out there. This is going to, this is going to hurt, you know, the, the, the, the budget for this year, because the budget for last year, you know, included the tariffs as part of it. Right.

A part of it. And they was like, well, okay, we've lowered the deficit a little bit. That's going to blow that. The deficit's not going to be lower. Right.

It's going to hurt tremendously. And then the, what is the section 122.

Now, that's only supposed to bring in a 36 billion estimated,

uh, between now and, uh, 150 days.

But they, I believe they've got a stronger legal case to reverse that than even this one.

Right. I mean, it's slam dunk on that one. It's a present saying it's the trade imbalance. No, it's the balance of payments. That's in the law.

Balance of payments is not. I don't know if they're confusing it or just trying to convince the public of it, or they don't understand it, but it's easy to understand. And they understand that they know balance of payments is not. Is not.

And it's going to be explained to everybody. Balance on the new tariffs that he wants to, uh, terrifying and currently his terrifying in section 122. Uh, he's doing it based on, uh, trade imbalance, but it's supposed to be balance of payments.

And it's this simple. It's just try to explain it in just 30 seconds or less. Balance of payments is you have a trade imbalance. Okay, let's say it's a trillion, I'm throwing out the figure of a trillion. I believe it's less, but a trillion dollars.

All right. Let's make it simple. It's $10.

Okay, your, your trade imbalance is $10.

Uh, you have, uh, your country has purchased $10 more. Uh, and so, uh, that foreign country or foreign businesses have $10 in their pocket. Well, they take that money and they invest in the United States or buy treasury bills. Hmm.

That means a balance of payments is zero because you've even it out. When you have a trade imbalance,

you have to do something with the currency.

Just like the currency, sit, you lose. You got to do something with it. You were the buy something American or you invested in American business and/or treasury bills. You're going out much more. You can do with it.

Right. And so that's what balances it out. Right. And that's the balance of payments. And that's what Section 122 refers to.

Right. So that isn't as much.

It's only $35 billion in 150 days,

but still they're going to have to refund that, too. Yeah. That this goes the way we think it's going to go. And if the process is set up now. Yeah.

You're talking about a total then of 166 billion with interest. Because I've seen anywhere for it started out. I like 200 billion then it was 130 now. It's now is 166 with interest. I don't know.

Right. What's the interest rate? Yeah. I don't know. But you're going to be at the 200 billion figure that has to be refunded.

If you get another 35 billion out of the Section 122 tariffs. Right. Yeah. And it's. Once CBP has.

Their process fully that it and in place. Then it's just going to keep. It's going to keep rolling. Then there's just going to be. It's going to be massive amounts of money.

Billions and billions and billions and billions of dollars. Going to these importers. Okay. Here it is. The interest is up in the price tag.

$650 million each month. Okay. Yeah.

I had seen that one of the stores I couldn't remember.

Yeah. How much it was. Yeah. So asking for another 45 days. And that's what he granted.

He said, okay.

But just keep in mind we're at a rate of 650 million per month in interest.

Now here's the other thing. Any refunds are set to go to importers. But consumers have launched several proposed class action lawsuits against prominent companies and the hopes of forcing them to pass along any funds they receive. That becomes a little more problematic and tedious those suits.

I don't know where that goes. But I guess that's how you would work it out. You work it out by saying by saying, okay. There's nothing. I'm a judge.

I can't do the thing about that. That's an indirect. That's an indirect tax. I can do something about a direct tax. It's a consumer wants to, you know, to do.

To sue. They can sue on their own. We're talking about the direct fees paid as a result of the tariffs. And the fees are paid by the importers. And that's what it comes down to.

Yes, ultimately it's passed along.

But to what extent then you have to get into the books, right?

Of each and every importer with each and every product along the way. And all the way down to the retail level of what the consumer paid. And then the consumer waste and the consumer because of competition might pay.

So let's say they they bring in a million widgets.

Some of the widgets go to, I don't know, Amazon warehouse, some of the widgets go to target. Some of the widgets go to Walmart. Well, let's say Walmart doesn't want to pass it along. They want to stay competitive on that widget. And so that's going to be a loss leader for them.

And they'll eat the cost of that absorb that, but target does not. So that gets into a very. Wow, that's a rabbit hole. I wouldn't want to go down. But then can because remember they talked about financial losses.

Can the importers then go back and sue the federal government. For the financial losses, which would be separate the damage to the business model. The damage to the business model, right? Because of lawsuits coming from consumer. I guess they can sue all they want to.

Let's see where they can sue. Yeah, the question would they succeed on it.

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Thank you, Red Eye. Here when I'm radio and he is currently and I'm during McNamara. Good morning. Thanks for being here. Yeah, so that's a mess, a big mess.

And we had asked the question. You know, if you talk about it, if it takes another year. And again, it would be the interest on the terrace would be a. Scaling number based on what they took from day one. Right.

If it's 650 million based on the 166 billion each month.

That would, you know, roughly be what the eight billion over the period of a year. No, because it would keep going up. The interest rate would be. It would be. But on top of the pounding.

Yeah, probably eight nine nine billion a year.

So yeah, if you look at overall. I mean, it wouldn't be if the American taxpayer. After all the tariffs end up having to pay five. To ten billion dollars. Yeah, in interest.

And in and again, said, we don't want to require them to. To file a suit. We want to work out a method by which those importers can make a claim. So basically customs set it up. You're already equipped to do this.

Where they can make a claim and get it started. And they're trying to figure out how to set it up for.

Up to 75 million entries.

Wow, 330,000 company. This is Ridae Radio. On Westwood One. But what I wanted to do. But what I want to do is not to study.

The semester-by-tag left Topucha Soft behind the internet.

It's a master's. I mean, you can say that they can do it. You mean, you're a employer, right? But you can't do anything. Egal, Zauberwort, for Lustford. Make the whole thing like this.

And when they then work, he says, "Catching."

That's right. Save. Like this. Hold it, then go back. Now I'm going to try it.

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