03-17-26 Part Two - Happy St. Patrick's Day

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Thank you very much, Happy St. Patrick's Day. I don't want it all. I saw a recipe the other day. It just came up on my Google's. Here is a slow cooker recipe for corn beef in cabbage.

It's not St. Oh, yeah, it is in a few days. It's like my calendar is so off. The days just blend together. Yeah. I have betrayed the Irish.

You have.

I've never had a corn beef in cabbage ever, my whole life.

I don't. I think I've had corn beef on a sandwich at some point. But not a corn beef in cabbage. No, I've never had corn beef ever. I've never from what I remember in involves drinking.

Oh, yeah. Well, I don't. Many things could follow. I don't remember ever. And then I don't ever remember having a green beer.

Yeah. Oh, no. You know what? I remember is, uh,

“remember, uh, Ben against, I think are there still some Ben against?”

I don't even know.

There was one, I can Arlington, Texas.

I don't know if it's still there. But it was one of the last ones. But I remember at this local Ben against, they had a mug that when you put beer in it, the green, the beer from the outside appear to be green.

The mug just kind of from the outside again made it look green. It wasn't green beer. I do, I remember some radio promotions at night clubs where they served green beer. I don't know how they got that done. I die.

I'm assuming. But I don't know. This had to be over 20 years ago. So it must have been, I'm going to guess it was 2003, 2004. And I did my show.

Well, Bob used to be our boss. Come up to me and he says, hey, you know any Irish bar. For gosh, it works here for a while. Your name's McNamara. Yeah.

You should probably drink heavily.

“And you know what? You know how many bars in the Irish,”

what? Give us a list of the top 50 in the metro next gathering. What, yeah? In order of, in order of your consumption. That's right. And in order of your bar tab that you owe.

And so he, he asked us to join the Irish bars where we could do a live broadcast from. On the same pad for his team. That was racist. No, I went, sure.

I did, I handed him, I handed him the list and said, that's also racist. That's right. You're implying we drink. That's racist.

This is a phone book. No, it's my list. Well, you think about, before we get back to that, just to think about how racist, for example, the leprechaun movies were.

Think about it. Think about the racism that's accepted against diverse people. Right. The leprechaun, this greedy, lustful, motor.

Mm-hmm. And greedy. Remember? I just remember Jennifer Aniston. That's all I remember.

I once me gold. Yeah. Yeah. So greedy, very lustful. And a murderer.

Well, yeah. And then, and it's made believe. Then, but my whole thing on that wasn't just the silly, silly, sillyness surrounding the character. It was the lack of threat.

I will admit, I've never watched.

Because there was like leprechaun one, two, and three years. I've only seen clips. Yeah, same with me. I've might have seen 30 seconds of it. It was so annoying.

And I don't think so. But so Bob had this idea. So there was a right around the corner from where I lived. There, I mean, less probably less than a mile. There was an Irish bar.

And it was a great place. And I knew the owner.

“And I went and said, what do you think about us doing a live broadcast?”

Because I said, "For free, won't cost you anything." Right. Well, you mean you'll publicize it, you're at my bar for free? Right. Yeah, it's just something you know.

I'm not trying to sell it. It's just last moment.

It was like a week before.

Right. Oh. I mean, it was a great time. But trying to do not breaks. Like, hey, we're here at--

And I think it was called "Odouyers." We're here at "Odouyers." And we're having a great time. Come on. And they have five shots for a buck.

By the way, I used to, I say that because I used to work. I was a club DJ at a bar that had five shots for a buck. That's so dangerous, man. Five shots for a buck. Two bucks.

Two bucks to get black out during Tuesday night. My gosh. Oh my gosh. And hey, I'm telling you.

“I have to do my blood work tomorrow for my doctor's appointment next week.”

And we'll do it like we do every time.

He'll say, "Your kidney liver is just a great shape." Like, you sure that's mine? Is that my blood work? I'm sure that's my blood work. And we both burst out laughing.

I've done that from the birds beginning. It's one of those bars, though. Probably where the top shelf is under the sink. Yeah. But what I want to do today is not to keep the whole studio.

The master-by-tack leapt a bunch of people in the internet. It's a master-by-tack. I mean, you can tell that you're drunk. You mean, the master-by-tack, huh? But you don't understand.

egal. The master-by-wort continues to work. Make the whole thing just like this. And when you work, you'll see. That's right.

Safe. Like this. Hold your money back. Now it's up to you. Let's try it out.

So I realized having to do a show with, I don't know, it was mobbed out the door. Five hundred hacked drunk people. Yeah. By the way, they were all Irish. Yeah.

Well, okay. Because everybody's Irish. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

Listen to me on my horse. And this woman, who was, and of course, I didn't drink anything. I mean, you're not going to drink what you're on the air. Yeah. And this woman, you're not.

“This woman was so, well, except for the, remember the, I never got to do the Christmas thing”

where, remember in the '70s, that was really big '70s and '80s. Yeah. Where it's like, okay, leading up to New Year's, right. Have one drink and then the cops in there and checking your reflexes. Remember the WKRP.

Right. Or Dr. Johnny Fever got his reflexes, got better. Right. The more that he drank. Yeah.

Or the one morning show guy. I know that screamed at the officer. I know my rights. You haven't even had a drink yet. Send out and shut up.

So this woman was smashed. Yeah. And she, like, crawls on our broadcast table. I'm on the air. Okay.

Well, you know, the, the, the, the budget. And I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she, like, falls on top of me onto my lap. And I'm still doing my show.

Okay. And I'm talking because if you talk, because of the processing and the microphone, if you talk, you can't hear what she's saying. Right. Even though she's just too free.

I can hear it. It's a sound gate, but, yeah. Right. So you can hear. She's just, she's like laying on my lap as I'm trying to do a radio show.

Yeah. And of course, there's no security. Right. I don't know, I don't even know if security would help because you were packed in, like, sardines.

Right. That was almost, that, that was, that was one of the worst times ever. Because it went on for the entire. I just started a break, which went like for 10, 12 minutes.

Yeah. She was all no discipline. You should have given her a spanking. That's the thing. How do you know I didn't?

She was already there in your lap. Exactly.

“So you know, I'll always remember, always, always remember that one.”

Yeah. And I do remember them. You know, after the broadcast was over. Yeah. I remember I'm talking, having a great conversation with a bunch of listeners.

That was really, really. I was doing my local show at the time. And it was actually a very, very enjoyable time, except for that one, where you're like, yeah. Thank goodness.

Thank goodness. Thank goodness. CFCC isn't listening because you probably could have heard a ton of curse words. And everything else. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's, yeah. You know. I remember those things.

Those beautiful things. Those nightclub things. You know. Yeah. But my wife and I when we were just had just met.

She went with a friend out. And I was doing a live remote at a nightclub and the whole thing. And then, at the end. And of course, you know, everybody there's drinking. I'm not drinking.

I'm working. And she wasn't drinking. She was there with her friend. She was a designated driver. And at the end, she came up.

And we had met actually at the radio station. And this is so like our second encounter. And she came up and she said, well, you're going to hang out for us. And well, I got to take the equipment back to the station. And she goes, okay.

Can I have a hug? And I was like, yeah, I gave her a hug. And then the rest of the sister we were still together today. And I love her more than ever. And, you know, I thought to myself, I could have gone a lot worse

that we've both been drinking. Hey, don't touch me. I wasn't trying to. No, no. It was just it was the sweetest encounter.

Well, you and I've always had a policy.

And I've told it to many young people, which is, you know, no matter what you do, even at company parties. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a drink. Yeah.

And anything to do with their business. Right. And I've advised young people.

“I'll never forget advising this one person who I know.”

I'm still sort of a mentor to a young woman. And I always told her, I said, look, if you go in there. And my father taught me this. He was just, get, get a soda water with, you know, a lime in it. Right.

Whatever. Nobody knows. Get a cranberry. Nobody knows. Right.

And just, just do that. But you don't want to do that. You always want to be at your best when you're at work. And I'll never forget. I told her that.

And she always followed it.

But she called me one time, was after Christmas party. And she said, thank you so much for that advice. I said, why, she said, because my boss just got my boss got called in to the big boss's office. She may be getting fired because she got so drunk. She was doing cartwheels at the Christmas party.

Or whatever the party was. I'll do that for you. I'll do that for you. Not well. I don't do well.

Well, it's just, you know, for me, you know, that's the thing. And I was at an event last year. Actually, it's coming up next week. The Mid-America tracking show on mobile. And on Saturday morning, I host part of the Paul K. Young truck beauty championship awards.

And hand out trophies. And it's an honor to do it. And a couple of years ago, I had to get some water. You know, you keep some water at the podium. But all we had back in our room was red solo cups.

I mean, we got them for our guests and everything. I was no alcohol involved. But a red solo cup sends the wrong message.

It always does when you're standing in front of a microphone.

And so I said, well, good morning, everybody. And it starts at like nine o'clock in the morning. I know what you're wondering what I have in my red solo cup. And the answer is none of your business. What are you a cop?

And of course, you know, you started out that way.

“But I always felt, I was like, don't we have a bottled water somewhere?”

Yeah. You know, it's just the red solo cup. Just always has that image of, well, he's drinking something. Good at 9 a.m. But no, it wasn't for the time that two of my buddies visited me.

I will not give names if you happen to be listening. Yeah, this person just goes back 23 years ago. Yeah. Broadcasting at the state fair. Well, yeah.

And, and, you know, they, my, my two buddies are there. And they know that Buck Taylor's there. Right. You know, Buck Taylor, the famous character actor from God's Smoke, Great Western artist, whatever, was in Tombstone.

But ton of movies. Yeah. Probably Wallow Stone. Yeah. Yellowstone.

Partridge family. Yeah. My favorite Martian. He was on every other high water. I really, really, great scene.

Great scene. Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah. The bank robberies.

Yeah. But they, they had met him before and wanted to go meet meet him again. And they were in town visiting me.

And I'm like, we'll go do it.

Just guys, just don't, you know.

“Well, we're going to find some cocktails.”

They're going on for like, my show was like three hours or something. Mm-hmm. They come back like the 15 minutes left and they're just gone. Oh.

Wow. And I just like, we had a security guard at that time. Yeah. Just keep them in arms distance away from the microphone, please. Yeah.

And yes, I was the designated driver. Yeah. It was like, oh, man. It's just, you know, it's just like, oh. So it's like, keep friends away from live broadcast and don't, don't, don't do broadcast.

And St. Patrick stays parties unless it's a, a party. Exactly. Well, you know, I had a friend. In fact, you know, I'm a who was a DPS officer in Texas for the longest time. And he told me for over well over 30 years.

And he told me that, at one point in his career, that St. Patrick's night for drunk driving for DUIs was, again, based on his experience was actually worse than New Year's Eve. Wow. His theory was New Year's Eve often has like parties at houses or hotels where people stay.

And they don't, you know, drive. But St. Patrick's night can St. Patrick's day can fall. Well, like today, it's a Tuesday. And so people will go and then they've got to work the next day. And they're going to, but you've got today, that was years ago today that he told me that.

Today, you've got Uber, Lyft, friends, there's no reason to drive drunk period. There just isn't.

No, they're just, you know, if you know, you, well, there was never a reason.

There never, there never was, there isn't, you know, the celebrities that always, you know, and it's like, well, they want to drive their own vehicle. It's just, I don't get that.

“You've got the money to hire a limo for the night if you want to.”

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I'm Gary McNamara. One more other note. This is the St. Patrick State.

It's always the anniversary of going back.

I don't know 33, 34 years where I was broadcasting in the Northeast. And was at another St. Patrick State party for the radio station. And that's when I got the fury of many old Irish people that were livid at me because I was a conservative Irish person. Wow. That's when I felt the identity politics of the Democrat Irish Catholics of the Northeast.

Really? Who were furious at me? And then they became more furious at me because I have never been one obviously. Anyone who has subscribed to identity politics. Right.

“Well, you're Irish, sure, for you need to think this way.”

Well, that's the same idiocy that if you're black, you need to think this way. If you're a woman, you need to think this way. Don't tell me how to think.

And say, if I'm not part of the group think because of my ethnicity,

that somehow I'm immoral, you can go to the place way, way down there. But at that point, these people got furious at me because I thought it was the funniest damn thing ever. Because to me, identity politics is so ridiculous. The fact that people actually believe that your mind is not yours. Yeah.

That it belongs to a group.

“And you must identify everything of your being with that group by found hilarious.”

It got them more mad. Hmm. Well, it was a great night. That was a great night. [Music] They live the life. They walk the walk. Gary McNamara, and Eric early, read, I radio.

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And another thing. One more anniversary here for St. Patrick's Day. Yeah. It was 26 years ago today that I decided to come to Dallas. I would not be here if I had not made that decision.

Wow. There you go. Crazy. Yep. Well, good.

Yep. I came in. I filled in a couple of days for the Great Mark Davis. Yeah. Yeah. And I paid me. What? Yeah, they paid me.

It was like a, you know. Well, you know the thing is I knew Bob. You know, and it was, that was one of my most interesting interviews. I heard that. Because you get to a point in radio.

We really don't go through the interview process anymore. Yeah. It's not the same kind of thing. Yeah.

“I remember one time when I had a interview in Nashville for a great affiliate in Nashville.”

Mm-hmm. It was going back a long time ago. They were, they were owned by Gaylord at that time. Okay. All right.

And so I stayed at the Gaylord Hotel. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I've been there. And it was great.

And brought me around the radio station.

Never actually sat down and had a meeting.

And so I came in Friday night. Had a little bit of dinner. Stayed at the hotel. Pick me up. Show me the radio station.

Took me around, you know, to everything, show me the granola property. Everything else to rhyme in. Yeah. You know, the, the rhyme in then the new granola property at that time.

Mm-hmm. Because it was in the mid-90s. Mm-hmm. And then it was like, that was it. And had a couple of hours.

“And the, the, the guy who was in charge brought me back to his apartment.”

We had a few hours. We watched football. And he goes, I'm going to have a beer. Have a beer with me. So I have a policy of not having a, not having a beer.

And any company function. But I had one once at that interview. And I had one when I interviewed at our great affiliate KXL in Portland. Right. Where I got taken on a bike ride by the, or bike ride.

A boat ride by the general manager down the Columbia. And he broke out a nice, you know, nice. You know, nice, cold, you know, ice chest of beer. And said, have one. I said, my mind on an interview.

Come on. I'm having one. I'm done into have one. Okay, I have a beer. So I've had beers at two interviews.

But the, but Bob had, uh, he called, you know, we had talked about it for a while. And I was thinking of not seeing in radio. And he said, well, look, just come in. Come in for a couple of days.

Just fill in from our, we'll pay you and see how you feel. All right. And I did. So I did.

And after the second day, which would have been same Patrick's day.

We're not to a sports bar. I'll never forget. He looked at me and said. I'm not going to offer you a job. He said, okay.

He said. It was towards like that. He said, because you've turned me down twice before. And I did. Uh, he was running a station in Madison, Wisconsin.

I turned him down. I turned him down in Albuquerque. Right. And he said, so I'm not going to offer you a job. Because you've turned me down twice.

And I'm not going to take a third time. He said, so if you're interested in want the job, you tell me. You have to back for it.

Say, please. And, and I said, uh, I said, well,

“uh, if you want me, I want to work here.”

Yeah. And he said, and we haven't talked about, you know, pay, or bad at vote, ever. And I just just compensation. I said, if we both agree, if we both won,

it will come to an agreement. Sure. And we did it to go, I mean, I didn't end up coming to work until May of, of 2000. But yeah, that was the, uh,

but I always thought it was just super such.

Things like when you get into this business after a while, you know, the interview process changes a little bit. [laughs] Yeah, well, my interview for this gig in '96. Boy, it's pretty short.

I was like, alright, well, you know. You're what we need, and we like what you got. So, let me show you around. Tyler Cox. And I, I didn't, before that, I was at a rock station,

uh, here in Dallas. And that one wasn't even an interview over the phone, because I had sent all my material to them, and they just called me and offered, so I don't.

That means the last interview that I had was in 1990. Real interview.

You know, you have the sit down,

but it's a conversation where the decision had already been made in every case after that 1990.

“And I think the decision had been made then,”

but it was just, they just wanted to make sure that, okay, you know what this is going to take, right? You know, because I, man, I'd only been in radio then six years. You know, but six years in radio in a small market

was a lifetime of experience compared to anybody else because usually people move on, you know, from that, from that market. But I, you know, I went to high school in that town and the whole thing.

So, I guess I had the advantage, I don't know. Yeah, the last real interview. I ever had would have been 94. You know what, best interview? I got to tell you, this is, this is great.

And when I talked to him a couple of years ago, he didn't remember it. But when I got hired at WLS in Chicago, just for a short period of time, I was on there for a couple of months

and then I went to Buffalo.

“And the great Drew Hayes was a program director.”

But I had gotten, I had gotten let go from our great affiliate, WROK and Rockford Illinois. It was a money thing. New GM came in and said you're making too much money. Yeah, I won't tell you what the amount was

because you'd go, that would do much money. But we left on great terms. Yeah, it was great terms. And we're on all these stations now. Yeah, and so I quickly sent out a resume and tape

to WLS at night and like, and that extra. Like, by 530 before the post office was closed. Well, I wake up the next morning to a phone call. And it's a woman saying, hey, this is my name Bob Babad. And you know, and I thought it was my friend,

Mary, who I had worked, co-worker. I thought it was her.

And I basically said, Mary, blank you.

And it was really WLS. Well, that's awkward. It's like the biggest opportunity ever. Ever in my life ever. At that point.

And I was like, come on, Mary, it's a, and finally I realized, oh my gosh, it's just useless. Oh, boy. Wait till I tell you, wait till I tell Drew. Yeah.

And so the next day, the, the next day. But interview the next day. And I went in and. Um. Um.

The perceptionist went, oh, you're the one that told blank. He blanked a blank off. Right. Yeah. And they just, they just destroyed me.

They just, they just put me through the ringer. But I forgot walking into Drew Hayes' office. Oh, so you're the one that told my assistant to blank off. Yeah. Where to go?

He goes sit down. He goes, when you, when you want to start, I go. It's, it goes. And it was such a great interview. I said, well.

That's it. He goes, hey, you know what you're doing? I went, wow. All right. And he had listened to me before when he had gone through.

Yeah.

He knew who I was.

But there does, I, I guess my point,

“the thing is, it does get to the point in this business”

where people just know if you know what you're doing. By the time do you have that conversation? Yeah. It's pretty known by both. It's pretty much known by both parties.

You know, if you want that job and if, if they believe you're qualified, it's pretty much known by the time that conversation happens. Yeah. You really don't get those. There's a point where you don't get those interviews because I had those before.

So why do you wish to be in this business? And why do you want this job? The one time I was asked that one. What is it? It was like this, this head of the station was looking at the,

you know, HR for beginners or something. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's why, you know, why do you want the, and my answer was, I need the money.

It's, I guess, but you have chosen this profession because I like doing it,

like being in front of a microphone. But what is it beyond that? That's it. Where do you see yourself in five years? I'm going to be the president of the United States of Columbia.

Where do you see yourself in five years? Well, replacing you because you're an idiot. Well, given the length already of this interview, probably still sitting here talking to you. Yeah.

Yeah. That's please tell me it's not going to last for five years.

“But it is not, is that not the danger of doing a traditional interview with the radio talk show?”

Who's opinionated on every single topic? Yeah. And who's mind is consistently working to have a quick response back? There's a risk of getting burned. There's a very good, I would wear gloves.

Frankly, if I were to do it. Yeah. Your story on WLS reminds me of the time I daughter hung up on Willie Nelson. He called the house because he was going to be on the show that night. And he called the house ahead of time.

Make sure. Okay. Do I have the calling number right in the time right? Because he was in Hawaii. And it's my daughter answers the phone.

Yeah. This is Willie Nelson calling for Eric Carly. She goes, "Yeah, right. Click." And he called right back.

And he was laughing. He goes, "No, no. This is really Willie." And I kind of need to talk to him because I'm going to be on a show tonight. And then she just looked mortified and looked in my wife.

Wake that up. Willie Nelson's on the phone. I can't remember what it was about. But I was working in Fort Walden Beach, Pensacola. Yeah.

Rock radio. And for some reason we wanted to do an interview on our morning show with Dick Clark. I cannot remember why. Yeah. I'm probably a lot of reasons you would.

And I don't remember how I got, you know, I got a phone number for Dick Clark. Well, I figured it was Dick Clark Productions, right? Right. The late Dick Clark. Mm-hmm.

So I call the number. It's like, hello. I'd like to speak to, you know, I said, I'd like to either speak to Dick Clark or somebody that could help me get an interview. You know, and talk to him, he goes, "I'm Dick Clark." Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, no. It was like, you know, I didn't know where it goes. He ran the show. Yeah.

That was by everybody's standard that worked with him. He ran everything. And he was, you know, he had a very strict standard on everything. So that doesn't surprise me at all.

“Well, I would think that one thing I would never want to happen is you have to go through,”

you know, three different people to get to me before business decision is made. Because you probably, you could use how many business hours doing that. Yeah. Yeah. If a business decision, I want the direct call to me.

But I don't want it. Well, it's going to your assistant and then your assistant before that and then your assistant. Yeah. No, no, no. Come to me that way.

We don't have to spend all the time talking to all these people to figure out what you want to. You and I are awake a lot during the day doing show prep, right? Yeah. But part of also being awake is having to respond to executives and everything else. Otherwise, if we don't respond until we come in, you know, late at night, they may not sit until the next day.

You've lost an entire business day on a response. You know, so to that end, I could see someone like that says busy is Dick Clark. With everything that he has hands in. Yeah. I would want to just answer my phone directly.

I can book my own time. Yeah.

That was always shocking.

Yeah. Because how huge was he? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So he was like, yeah.

There's no way. I worked with Peter Thomas, a legendary voiceover artist. And we were going to happen. Do some things for a rock station, but he did. He's done so much in voiceover.

He was the same way. And his sound guy told me he's always been that way.

You called him directly.

“And I can see where you would probably lose money in that.”

And Dick Clark probably thought, I've got so many irons in the fire.

I can't miss a minute. Makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. We are right.

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“We got to keep pounding on this because I see more of this.”

So it's see more headlines over the last couple of days. CNN liberal panelist argues.

Billion spend on defense could go to health insurance instead.

Yeah. Political commentator Lee McGowan argued far out a blah, blah, blah, blah. And CNN as we've said this before. Every single liberal state could have government paid health care if they wanted it. Right.

They don't wish to pay for it. Democrats only want health care government health care if their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren will pay for it. Yep. So stop with this.

We're of a higher morality. Right.

Because any liberal state could vote in tomorrow if they wish to.

Full government health care. That's right. So everybody will get health care. Now gasoline would be $12 a gallon. Right.

They don't wish to pay for it. Right. They want to live in a fantasy world that everything is free. And we know it from California, Colorado and Vermont. Yep.

Well, we want free health care. We just can't pay for the free health care.

“Isn't it amazing how you can't pay for free things?”

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