05-13-26 Part Two - Van Hollen vs. Patel

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Democrat Chris van Hollen asking questions to FBI Director Cash Patel and basically it

becomes a back and forth of who's the bigger drunk, who's smoking the most weed? Here we go. I will say this for Ben Hollen though, they should find, if you're going to go after somebody and this is the Atlantic story that he's Cash Patel's filed a defamation lawsuit against.

Right. That, you know, said basically, you know, he's been missing meetings, drinking on the

“job and things like that and he denies it, but remember that Hollen's a one that, remember”

the, when he was having the Margaritas with the Marilyn dad, yeah, yeah. So they go back and forth on that one, but here it is. So you agree, Director Patel, that if one of your agents was unable to perform his or her duties because of excessive drinking, you would need to take corrective or discipline her action.

You agree with that statement.

We would implement the inspection review process, just like these other agencies have their own internal investigations and complete that review. As I said in my opening remarks, I really don't care about your personal life, so long as you are able to perform your public and official responsibilities, which are awesome responsibilities.

Multiple reports, including reporting by the Atlantic, have alleged episodes of excessive drinking, unexplained absences and behavior that concern current and former FBI and DOJ officials. You have publicly denied those allegations and filed a defamation lawsuit. So today's you testify before Congress, is it your testimony that those allegations are

“categorically false, unequivocally categorically false?”

So there have been no occasions during your tenure when FBI personnel were unable to promptly reach you. Absolutely not. You can ask my entire workforce there for me at every single hour of the day as to these great gentlemen here, as to the men and women of the Interagency and state and local law enforcement

in the White House. And so there have been no occasions when your security detail at difficulty waking or locating news. Is that right? Nope, it's a total force.

I don't even know where you get this stuff, but it doesn't make it credible because you say so. I'm not saying it, director Patel, it's been written and documented. You are literally saying it. No, I'm saying that these are reports, director Patel and I'm like, I would say reports.

You're the only person that was sling in Margaritas and now Salvador on the taxpayer dollar with a convicted gang banging rapist was you. You know, the only person that ran up a director fell or bar tab in Washington, D.C. is a lobbyist. That's a million. You.

The only issue in this room, our agency is drinking on taxpayer dime during the day. How are you? Director Patel, come on. These are serious allegations that were made against you. It's a lawsuit.

It's a fall-ild. You drink in Margaritas with a gang banging. I'm just going to show you. I think a $7,000 bar tab at the lobby bar. Patel.

“That's why your own office goes to show during the day.”

That's you. This is an ultimate example of a pocket statement. I will not be tarnished by basis allegation. Let me acknowledge statements from the media. You know what it sounds like?

I think I told you that my brother just learned to text in the last six months. Yeah. Right. And my brother, along with my sister, is is is the same and, you know, they take care of my dad. 24/7 full-time caretakers.

Yeah. But he's got a lot of time on his hands. And so since he learned to text, take a guess who gets the majority of the text.

Well, the text going back and forth are basically who is a bigger drunken college.

Going back to half century. All right. Do we have a winner yet? No. No.

I mean, half the stuff isn't true, but we just, we make stuff up as we go along. It's just, you know, it's, it's, but it's pretty funny.

If those texts became public, I'd be in deep trouble, because if I was in, in political office, what did it, what's all this about here? Yeah, exactly. But your brother claims your own family member exists. That's true.

May I remind you, you are probably not under oath, because we're on a debate stage. But however, hand-christ family go behind the scenes and beyond the headlines with the biggest names in pro wrestling and beyond.

“You could pop up in WWE tomorrow, would Surrey be there or would page be there?”

Hey, 1/100 is there. So when you're setting up Logan Ball to frog splash you through the announce table, it's going through your mind. This should make every headline in the world, but it makes sense, right? In Jelly Roll, we knew we had that kind of a moment.

Mindset, motivation, and what it takes to succeed. Insight with Chris Family, follow and listen on your favorite platform. So, well, what it is, it's, it's our continuing effort to accuse the other one of being a bigger loser and a pitiful human being in life, which is exactly what brothers do to each

other even when you get in, even when you get to retirement age, it never changes.

So, but, yeah, I just saw it, but I was like, hmm, it's like maybe Van Holland wasn't

“the one to ask that question, yeah, right, or to keep emphasizing on it, and apparently”

part of his filing was $7,000 for a party or liquor or something that was, that happened. Yeah, the hill.com, but, you know, you know, how that ended though, hmm, they, they both agreed, I don't think it's going to happen, but they both agreed that they would take alcohol tests, but only if the other one was there. Right, yeah, all right, you know, the, the, the, the, the problem is not the Atlantic

story, the problem is and, and the story was Trump was in pleased with it when he was with the Olympians in the locker room, and the champagne was flowing and stuff like that.

Right, Trump's not a drinker, he doesn't, you know, we all know that, he's, he's never

drank, and so he doesn't like that imagery, yeah, right, you know, yeah, and so, that's true, but not that he did anything wrong or was drunk, I'm not making that accusation. He just doesn't like the imagery, he, yeah, he just doesn't like the imagery, but that's, that's not going anywhere.

“I mean, it just, I just thought it was, when they were going back and forth or it was just,”

uh, it was entered, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, in other news, I like this one because when I saw the headline, ex-BLM activists, that's Black Lives Matter activists says Democrats are the racist. I went, well, where have I heard that before? A former Black Lives Matter activist pulled back the curtain on what he called the fraud and

indoctrination of the radical left explaining why he came to believe the movement that he supported was a scam Xavier Doroso, uh, said he spent his youth supporting liberal causes, describing himself as the kid in college spreading woke stuff on campus, but that his awakening came during the 2020 George Floyd riots. He joined, uh, he was, he was on a, uh, Riley games, uh, podcast to discuss what changed

his mind socialism has literally never worked Black Lives Matter has always been a scam and

the Democratic Party has always been the party of racism and violence. I have just been drinking the cool aid because this was the indoctrination that was put upon me from the age of a little child. These are all quotes, by the way. But Doroso now is a conservative content creator and a personality for Prager you, uh,

the, you know, conservative, um, publication videos, whatever the content, whatever that's done by Dennis Prager, um, explained that his shift began while being cast for the Netflix reality show the circle. He started researching conservative arguments initially wanting to debunk them, but then realize he'd been blinded by his own confirmation bias.

He said that when he tried to question things like the riots or whether the millions raised were actually going to the victim's families, he was met with hostility from Black Lives Matter. Whenever I called it out, I was told that I needed to stay in line or that I was losing the plot and I just got sick of it, adding that he realized how performative activism actually

Hmm. Ooh, I like that one. Yeah.

Wow, that's a, that's a great line and you know, I thought when I, you know, you could

have the Black Lives Matter, uh, protests, but when you look at, uh, now it's no kings. Well, it's pretty much all modern activism on the left is performative. Because you can't tell me, and, and by the way, we know this because of what we have seen

“with how well organized a lot of these events are, right?”

There's big money that that goes into organizing them. Yes, there's shared thought and there are a lot of, um, lunatics on the left, no doubt. But you're going to take it to another level when the camera's rolling. It is performative. It is, in fact, I think for a lot of the people there, I think, I think they're there to

see the train wreck.

He said at the time in 2020 that while he outwardly supported these movements, the Black Lives

Matter movement, he had long standing reservations about their messaging. He noted he had family and friends who worked in law enforcement during the height of the anti-police movement. I thought it was weird that so many people were demonizing every single cop and every single police department, hmm, and I thought it was insane to watch the looting and rioting

happening. He also noted the families of the victims of violence were not actually being helped by the organization claiming to support them. Brianna Taylor's mother was even speaking out saying that her daughter's name and death were being exploited and the remillions of dollars being made off her death, not a single dollar

went to her, went to legal fees or anything of that nature. So I just started seeing the fraud pretty early on, so they got in 2025 federal prosecutors launched an investigation into whether senior leaders of the Black Lives Matter organization to fraud a donor, some tens of millions of dollars and December of 2025, the executive director of BLM, Oklahoma was indicted on 25 federal counts, including wire fraud and money laundering after allegedly

and bezeling over three million in donations to fund international travel shopping and real estate.

“But I think it's interesting just to find out when people on the left, whether it's Michael”

Rappaport, who by the way, is saying he might run for mayor of New York now, yeah, yeah, so all right. But when you see, I just, I think it's, I think it's, I think it's fascinating because you really don't see major figures on the right moving to the left.

You may have the never Trumpers, but you know, you look at, for example, Bill Crystal.

Right, he's completely changed his political philosophy. Yeah, I think it's hard to believe he was ever a conservative. Yeah, when you, when you look at it, it just, it doesn't make, and he doesn't explain why. No, because we judge him based on what he has said, since becoming pretty much the never

Trump or, I mean, if you're going to put a face on the whole never Trump or thing, it's, it's his. Well, I mean, you can, you can disagree with Trump. We disagree with Trump.

“We haven't given, you know, we disagree with everybody.”

That's the points we have made, and we've said, okay, but explain why you disagree from a conservative point of view, and he's gone in the opposite direction. Right. We haven't changed our opinion on, on, on anything, no. And, you know, and so we can criticize him plus, you know, I voted for Trump three times.

I don't hate anybody. There isn't any emotional hate. I don't hate anybody. I just continue to have control of the House and Senate. Yeah.

Yeah. And until he's done being president, and I want the Republicans in the executive branch, I mean, my whole point is I want, even though the Republican Party is not as conservative as I would like, the option is not an option. It, it, there is no turning back.

And so, and people recognize that. They recognize the fact that, you know, you're not, I haven't been emotionally damaged because Trump or anybody else is in political office, you know, it's not like, no, I can't eat. I can't sleep.

I can't do this because I disagree with every politics. That's where they were. I remember when he won in 2016 and when he won again in 24, they just lost their ever

I don't think there's a politician I've ever agreed with 100%. No. And so, you know, so they get the criticism, we analyze things, and people recognize that. But it's when the hate and emotional immaturity just comes out of nowhere, where like, with

Bill Chris, you never saw it before and all of a sudden he's this absolute mush of liberal

insane emotion.

“Well, and it was clear, I think, a big part of that now, he's behind everything that”

he says in terms of his opinions and everything else. But there was also that the liberal activist media embracing him as a never-trumper, kind of like what they did with James Komi and others, where all of a sudden they just turn into something that's completely different than, now, not for Komi. But for Bill Crystal, then he had portrayed in the past, which tells me, again, the fact

that he got emotional and clearly his emotions were driving him when he became a never-trumper, that tells me that he was a liberal all along. Or Liz Cheney. Yes, same thing. With everything with their investors.

There's no way we could do it with every January 6th committee.

Right. The whole thing. And it's justified. And look at the lack of any type of due process that she advocated, blue her conservative credentials completely.

“But we explained precisely, we just didn't say, "We hate Lyn Cheney because she disagrees”

with Trump." No. We explained specifically why she lost any chance of ever being able to promote conservative principles, because if you don't believe in due process, you're not a conservative. Right.

And so, you know, but there is no hatred, I have towards anybody. No. I don't know. No, I don't. Time.

It's too much other things. Yeah. The emotional about life. Exactly. My stinky sports teams.

Right. And you're annoying brother. My brother. Yes, yeah. My brother.

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Radio app today and you can listen, when and where you choose. Now, this is one of my favorite things from yesterday, and I just happened to see it because I was just going through X and Jonathan Turley wrote about it. And the college, the college fixed calm has it, and where the University of California at Davis has a thing called the whole earth festival.

Okay, yeah, and be honest with you, it looks like all liberals in there. Yeah. Well, the whole earth festival has written a public apology for an informal drum circle that it denounced as cultural appropriation. Uh-huh.

And Jonathan Turley writes, and so many other people come, and he's like, he writes, given the presence of both drums and circles in every single culture. It's not clear where the appropriation was found. They couldn't find where the appropriation was, but they still had to apologize. Yeah.

They don't even know how they're apologizing.

No, they can't find it.

“But we're sorry, anyway, how many times does that happen?”

Someone made fun of who was it that made fun of Jimmy Kimmel one time apologizing for a joke that he made? And I don't remember what it was about. And then they showed him at the podium, I don't know where he was. It looked like L.A. city hall or something that probably was outside his studios, and he's

at the podium apologizing and crying, I was like, what are you apologizing for? You're a comedian. Did you ever see? You're supposed to be a comedian. You ever see the interview?

I'm sure there's been more than one interview. I saw the one interview where Daryl Hall, they asked him if he was culturally appropriating songs. Yeah.

He was involved in cultural appropriation.

Right. Exactly. No. Remember? And he just went and he goes, I grew up with this music, and you know, so many of the rhythm

and blues bands. When he was a kid, he went down to the studios, and he would do whatever they wanted him to do. I mean, he was a part of that's where he was training an influence was. Exactly.

It's where it all came from. Right.

“And I think I forgot who it was that I don't know if it was the O.J. or the spinners”

that were on, you know, the Daryl Hall, the great show that I don't even know if it's still on anymore. Yeah, Daryl's house. Daryl's, I don't know if it is. What a great show.

I mean, what a great show. It was either, I can't remember, it was the, it might have been the O.J.'s. And they were blown away. They had no idea his background. And they went, oh, you're really legit.

But he just said he goes, look, and I'm paraphrasing here, he said music is music. We all pick up different influences. If you make great music, you make great music. He said, I didn't create the sound that I have, you know, I was influenced by it. And, you know, and went down my own, you know, went down, we went down our own path.

And, and did it, I'm not taking credit for the genre. Right. I'm simply playing music because it's music and music is supposed to bring people together.

“And the best thing in music is when you can take different forms of music and different”

types of performers and bring it all together. Music is not about separation. It's about bringing people together. Right. Here you have this whole, this whole earth festival that had to write a public apology for

having a drum circle. And they can't even figure out what the cultural appropriation is. Nobody knows. Yeah. Because every culture has both drums and drum circles and their culture apparently.

Yeah. Right. Right. And because I don't know, they don't belong to a culture. But we live still the left lives in the world of apologies.

Your part of a movement today, you're the oppressor tomorrow. Nope. Wait. You're the oppressor today. You know, it's so much easier being a, it's so much easier being a conservative

than a liberal. No, it would be exhausting to be a liberal. I mean, the rules change every day, which means you've got to go to the door.

They deliver it to the door, every day, a door to ask drops that out for something.

“And then you got to read the rule book because it changed from last night when you went”

to bed. Yeah. I just, no, I'm sorry, I have to, I have to apologize for cultural appropriation or I have to apologize because your sensitivity and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Justin Timberlake did a duet with Prince's hologram at the Super Bowl and not only did

they come out and say, that was wrong and I'd say, I'd probably agree with it. I didn't see it.

You and I always just comment on the news that comes from whatever event.

I don't see it. I know the clip. I know why you said it's probably wrong, but it got nothing to do with cultural appropriation. No. No.

It's the hologram thing, stop it. And so that whole thing then quickly evolved into and all of your music Justin is cultural appropriation. Huh. Here's a guy that was hired to do the Super Bowl for, and it's announced months ahead

of time. Here's the halftime show. And so it comes out. He does this, which again, stop with the holograms. Now, there's actual, I've just read this the other day.

Prince's estate does not allow for a tribute band. You can do cover songs, a cover song. You can't be a Prince tribute band. They go after you, legally. And so it's obviously, wow, so it's obviously controlled by the estate of Prince.

They have to run that through them. The Super Bowl, the Entertainment Committee, the whole thing, months of planning and promotion of this, and the moment it's done, look, cheesy doing it with a hologram. Sorry. But it evolved into your, all of your music is cultural appropriation.

“You've got blonde hair and blue eyes, sorry, and you need to sing white music.”

Well, and it's like, the dude's been around forever. You and I were just talking and during the break about boy bands, and he was, you know, he was in, in sync, and, and, you know, launched his solo career out of that. So he's been around for a long time. I mean, I took my daughter to sing in sync.

She was in metal school, I think. And I mean, it was, I don't know, back in the 90s, whenever it was. So he's been around for so long, then all of a sudden, no, it's cultural appropriation.

Well, it's, it's, we, we better first explain before we lose our music street cred.

Yeah. Why we were talking boy bands. Because I'm, I'm just, I'm just getting over, because all the posters you put up in the control room. It's not that, I'm just, as you can tell, I mean, my voice is still a little

lot of it. I, I, I, I, both of us, even over the other side of the wall, yeah, producer Alan caught what we had. Yeah, I, I blame me. I'm, I'm Ron and sick, but Alan caught it.

Yeah. Respiratory things. So I'm just going through the TV. I just Saturday or Sunday. I was like, I just can't do it.

And, uh, there was a, I don't know if it was HBO Max or whatever, but there was a, uh, no, no, no, it was, uh, it was CW.

They always have dark music documentaries.

Yeah. Okay. And it was on boy bands.

“And I just happened to, you know, click, I go, what's this?”

And it watched the whole thing. Now, when boy bands became popular in the 90s, I just, I mean, I'm in the completely different music. I mean, I didn't even pay attention. Like, I am boy bands manufactured, whatever.

Yeah. I learned a lot. I learned a lot about so many of the, the so-called boy bands had said, we weren't boy bands. Yeah.

We weren't manufactured. We actually came together on our own and did the, and it's like, you know, they're talking about the, you know, the, the stereo typing and bigotry of calling us a boy band and how they all hate the whole boy band. Well, it's like calling Metallica hair metal.

Yeah. They weren't hair metal. Yeah, great. Great. Well, it's like when people start saying, well, I'm into heavy

metal and, you know, poison. Yeah. Yeah. No. And, and I'm just like, well, you know, and I actually listened to some of the music and

it's an archipelago stuff and I forgot which band it was. But when through all different ones, in fact, a band that I actually had no idea was a boy band and I had their album in the 90s, a band called, and they were actually

And to their, to me, they were a rock band and they played their own instruments.

I never knew it until I met a woman down here in Texas.

She goes, do you like any of the boy bands? I'm like, no, I hate him. She goes, I like the moffits. I go, I've got that album. They're a boy band and she goes, they're a boy band.

I go, no, they're not. Yes, they are. And apparently they fit the definition, you know, of a boy band. Yeah. And, but they were playing play on the alternative stations up there on a Toronto.

Yeah.

“And so that's why you never looked at them as a, you know, as a, because they didn't play”

boy bands. A, a deaf leopard video like about a month or two ago. And I said, you know, I said to myself, I said, self, they're kind of like a boy band with instruments. This is what they became.

If you followed deaf leopard from the beginning, which I did, then they, you know, pour some sugar on me. Oh, God, I, sorry. That's a, that's a weird request. Well, no, that's why people have asked me, because I know I've done a variety of

things in my life. But the hardest job I ever had was the hardest job I ever had was a wedding DJ. Mm-hmm. Now, I've explained the problems I work for a guy.

It was, we played records back then. And we were getting into maybe some CDs. Yeah. Those records. So you had to have all the, there was nowhere where you go on the computer.

Oh, the, the bride's family has asked for this song and you punch it in, download it and play it. Mm-hmm. No, didn't have it.

And he would never have if they requested 10 songs, he might have 5 for me.

Yeah. But what I hated the most is when that song came out. And I had to play that damn song, which I hated more than anything on the planet. More than anything ever in my life, maybe, besides Bobby Goldsboro watching Scotty grow. Mm-hmm.

Uh, honey. Or honey. Or honey. No, no, you're right. It was honey.

Yeah. Watching Scotty grow was honey. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Look how big the tree is grown.

But are you admitting to bearing her under a tree? Sorry. And, and so I, so I had to, I had to actually play that and then this one, I can remember the one wedding was at a fire hall. Mm-hmm.

I had to play it like 10 times. Play it again. Play it again. And I remember when I would get there, the check would be there and it was like, and

“we're going back, this has, when did that song come out late 80s?”

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, and, you know, I was making like 500 bucks a night.

Mm-hmm. It was great money. Mm-hmm. And I felt like I was, I felt like I was a prostitute. [laughs]

Well, you play it with the crowd once. That's why they pay it. [laughs] So look, I've had a bride and it was a family member. Whisper into my ear.

And I did have the advantage of downloading songs on the fly. I'm sitting there working on a laptop.

And I always get asked to do it because a couple of times I did.

And this one time, the bride, gently whispered into my ear, turned that blank off. And it cheated and used the word blank. And I was like, you know, I'm just downloading popular songs, right? And it was like, oh, man.

I wasn't getting paid before. I'm totally not getting paid now. So, yeah. Yeah, that's a nightmare of a job. Yeah, and so the hardest money I ever had to earn.

But the whole point was they got into the whole thing about cultural appropriation. Mm-hmm.

“And so that's why it's just, it's been on my mind.”

So when I saw Turely talking about the whole earth festival that you see Davis and had a write a public apology for a drum circle. And it's like, all cultures have drums and circles. And they play music and circles. Right.

There is no ethnicity that claims that the claims ownership to it to begin with, but they had to apologize and not even know what they were apologizing for. Right. Just amazing. Yeah.

You can't define it. You can't even define it anymore. I just would hate. I would hate to be a liberal just because I've always had to. Can I say this?

No. Can I say this? Well, no. This is exactly what's going on with the 28 candidates. Who's going to rise to the top? Today, it's AOC, but it might be somebody else tomorrow.

Why? Because today, you're the champion tomorrow, you're the oppressor. Well, the perfect example is Tom Styer can answer the question. Are you evil because you're a billionaire because AOC says, Right.

You got to be a criminal. So are you a criminal? Right. Yep. It's exhausting for them, but we love it.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Keep it going because it makes our show. Yeah. But we don't have to do any work anymore.

Exactly. That's great. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

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