Ep 1320 | Is Bill Gates Funding Assisted Suicide in the U.S.? Activist Reveals the Truth | Kelsi Sheren

with mental health conditions, these are just some of the groups being targeted by Canada's taxpayer-funded assisted suicide program. This is happening at an enormous scale. We've got an activist from Canada here today who is sounding the alarm about all of this. Who is making money off of this program?

And how is this happening in the United States through social justice organizations and even churches? This is a mind-blowing episode. You're going to want to listen to the whole thing, Buckle Up. Kelsey, thanks so much for joining us.

Could you tell everyone a little bit about your background? Yes, so my name is Kelsey Sharon, I'm a Canadian combat veteran and I served with Americans and British and Canadians overseas in 2009. I got injured overseas and I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder, traumatic brain injury, major depressive disorder, treatment resistant depression and hearing loss.

And I was hyper-suicidal for the majority of my 20s and told I would have been easier if I died. You're told by who, oh my staff in the military and they put me on a lot of drugs and I wanted to kill myself for a really, really long time and in 2015, one of my psychiatrists suggested our therapy.

And so I built a brand called Brass and Unity on the Kitchen Table that took off very rapidly and we became one of the largest jewelry companies in the globe that donated its money to

veterans, first responders, all across the globe.

I found purpose again and I think it was 2019, I started writing a book about my life as one of the more rare female operators on the front lines and in 2020 I started my show and I do everything from a place of suicide prevention and helping people understand that

“their life is worth living even with suffering and that suffering.”

The suffering has a lesson in it and that life happens for you and not to you and I've tried to be an example of that living since the time I went overseas to now. And ever since then I've been, I guess, I guess, an activist, I don't know what to call myself because I don't really love labels but I've just been somebody who's been speaking out against things that I feel are wrong in the world and using the opportunities and

platforms like your show and other peoples to hopefully open the eyes of individuals who are being targeted and the vulnerable who are being exploited and that's what I do now. And it has a program called Made and that's medically assisted, medical assistance and dying and assistance in dying and you're a veteran and you've watched fellow veterans be offered this program who are struggling in the same way that you were.

Yeah, in 2021, so there was a veteran in 2019 named David but in 2021, I got a phone call from a mutual friend who had another podcast who said, hey, it's like, I just got off the phone with so-and-so and he was just offered made from veterans affairs. And I thought to myself, well, that's he, that's illegal. So what are you talking about?

Do you approve of it? Not to think that he didn't have proof but I have to ask the question if you're doing

“any sort of journalism work or reporting, you need to understand where it's coming from.”

Because when we have an audio recording, I said, okay, so I listened to the audio recording and I got on the phone with the individual and I said, okay, you know what?

But I think, I think this finally crossed my line.

And that's when I started going to bat, obviously I was already in the veteran space in the suicide space. At that time, I had started, you know, speaking and doing keynotes at Harvard and TEDx and talking about veteran suicide, even though TED won't release it. I tried to help people understand how many people are taking their lives because lack of health,

care, lack of purpose, lack of community, lack of support networks. But to hear my own government suggest that instead of somebody being given the proper care after serving and this was a special operator, just to be given that option to end their life, kind of just dumbfounded me, I couldn't believe what I was hearing. And so from there, we went to the media and I went as far and wide as I could.

And I spent, you know, I've spent every waking minute since then trying to scream from the rooftops and get the world to understand what's happening in their countries because this is not a Canadian problem, this is an ideology that has been brought forward from

a six society and that's really where we're at is they target the vulnerable first.

They target the people who think they don't have a voice who can't speak up or who will take the options because they're so low. Yeah. And that's, that's you, that's you, Genics.

“Yeah, we'll get into the details because that's what I'm interested in.”

This audience understands the preciousness of life from conception all the way through. And so we understand the moral problems with made what I think a lot of people might

We see a headline from Canada or even some states here in the US hearing about this happening, but we don't understand how often it's happening, why it's happening. The mechanism is behind the scenes that are making this happen. And so I want to play one of the audio recordings of this veteran in Canada, Kristi Katier, Kristi Kristi and go to she's a friend of mine go to I think you she was waiting for five

years to receive renovations in her home and Canada to make it more wheelchair accessible because she had been injured as a veteran and this is what she was offered instead. Study. The guy said, you know, if you really can't go on, you're that desperate, you're that fed up with everything.

You know, you have to write to that. I remember when he said that I went like, I was coupled with me and shocked.

“And the only thing I came was like, seriously, like, really, you're you're not going”

to help me to live with the equipment I need, but you're going to help me die. Okay. So this is what is happening to many veterans in Canada. So Kristi and I heard about Kristi and Kristi is also a former artillery gunner like myself and she is a woman who paved the way for people like me to do the job that I did in the

service.

So I took a particular liking to her because I think she's incredible and I reached out

to her and that clips from my show, the Kelsey sharing perspective and I said, look, I just want to tell your story. I just want to hear you and give you a place to let this come out and I just want you to understand that there's no judgment, there's no nothing. I understand where you're at, how can we help?

And she came on and she sent me a mountain of paperwork of them in French and English and I served with the French. So I went through everything and they were offering her death over a wheelchair ramp. They were offering her to end her life. Now this woman is not like a, I'm talking to me wrong when I say this.

She's not like a standard like veteran across the board who hasn't deployed, you know, I don't

“mean that a degrading way, but what I'm saying is for Canada, she was an Olympian, a parallel”

Olympian, she was an Invictus game gold medalist. She was like, when Canada needed her to step up, she stepped up every time.

She's always been the one that was like, how do I go to and constantly work towards making

Canadians and veterans look amazing. She has just gone out of her way above and beyond, traveled when she needed to be testifying and just constantly been in this fight. And she just wanted a wheelchair ramp and they asked her if she wanted to die instead. And not only that is that was super illegal.

Like first off, forget the morality, just the way the law is written in Canada, that's illegal. Okay. And she's not the only one that has proof in evidence of this. We have all now testified in Parliament of Canada, myself, Christine Gozier, Mark David, like you name it, we've all testified to this.

And then every time we testify, we're met with your a liar, you know, Sean Casey at the last testimony I just did, spent his time filler bustering with me, basically calling me a liar. When I said I have 20 veterans with affidavits improved. Yeah. But you'd like to have this conversation continue.

And he just they just keep calling us liars. So if you constantly try to gaslight people, even though we have proof of it, you know, that's kind of an insane statement. So Christine itself, it's still fighting to get the things she needs. And meanwhile, her husband who's also a veteran has gotten the things he needed already.

So she's being punished for coming out and speaking. Yeah. And that's where we're at. So Canada basically says, officially, no, we don't do that. That's right.

There are two tracks. There's track one, your terminal. On terminal cancer, there's no fix for you. So we're going to offer what they call you domestically, dine with dignity. And then they have track two, you have severe depression.

You aren't able to get any relief. And that's, is that what they say? No. So track one is what we call your foreseeable death, your natural foreseeable death. Meaning that you're going to die within a very short period of time, right?

“So that's, that's what we call the killing grandma, like that's terrible name, but”

that's the name of my new book. Like this is the one we go, grandma's in the nursing home, she's deteriorating, she's not functioning. We don't want to see her suffer, she's had, you know, stage four terminal cancer for a long time.

We can't do radiation, chemo. People see the empathy in that, right? It's like putting your dog down. That's how they view it. That's literally what it's been compared to.

I don't agree with that. Track two came in when the court challenge. So 2016, Carda versus Canada, track one, we're only going to keep a terminally ill, we're never going to expand.

That's always the famous last words, right?

Then there was a court challenge that came through two years later, and it was two disabled individuals from Quebec who challenged the Supreme Court and said, it is wrong to be not allowing me who's a disabled individual to have the right to end my life. So naturally, Quebec rolled and then track two came in in 2021. Now that's your non foreseeable death, okay?

That's people who not mentally ill. Let's be very clear about that, because that's the depression covered, this is where things get murky.

And that could mean, for example, Sam and a wheelchair, and I used to not be in a wheelchair. And I can no longer live in this condition, okay? A friend of mine Roger Foley, who's in a London Ontario hospital, has a degenerative disorder. He could live at home, but they can't, they won't fund him to have caregivers, so they make him live in a hospital and they offer him made every day.

The only crime he ever had was born with a degenerative disorder, something wrong with this man. He's a great human. Caleb Pollack, I don't know what I can say on the show in terms of the terms, but the past say it all.

She got the COVID vaccine, like less than eight hours later, she became a quadriplegic. Story is quite known for this. Now they offer her made.

“So she's technically attracted to candidate, right?”

Now that is where your first issue has to be a physical disorder.

It cannot be a psychological disorder. Okay. That starts March of next year. Okay. And yet I feel that I have heard stories, like I'm pretty sure there was this 26-year-old

man who, yes, who was offered made, got made, because he was depressed and his family was like, hang on a second. This was just a season of his life. We were helping and we didn't even know that he was being killed by the government. How was that happening?

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My dad is one, right? And then throughout life, he started to develop some of these issues. He had some mental health issues. He was already struggling there. Then he started using some drugs that were not necessarily working well with young men's

minds. And then he had some head injuries.

“Now this is the kick or most people miss this, right?”

I have a traumatic brain injury. And so I understand that when you have a head injury, it changes your frontal lobe. Changes your ability to make discernment, decision-making, impulse control, all of these things. So he had multiple head injuries. So now we're dealing with diabetes, drug use, mental health disorders, now head injuries.

So what happened was Keanu went into seasonal depression type state. And if you live in Canada or on the West Coast, seasonal depression is pretty normal with the rain. It is an Ontario. In 2022, he went to a place, it's a killing facility called "Made House."

Okay, so we have two facilities in Canada, one in Victoria, one in Toronto, and all they do is kill. And in their eyes, all they do is euthanize, and I can't with them, and I refuse to play their games. Or help people die with dignity.

Yeah, well that's gross too. The end of life care. Right.

So we will you win and you never come out.

And then they break about their art on the walls on their website. Okay. Anyway, so he went in there. And a doctor named Dr. Tepper qualified him. Okay.

He did not qualify. Let's make that abundantly clear. He did not under the law, qualified for this. So his mother, obviously found out, lost her mind, went to the media and was like, "We're not doing this.

I'm letting everyone know who this doctor is. I'm not going to stop fighting for my son." Wonderful. He then said, "Okay, you know what? I'm not going to do it."

So we got afraid.

“Well, if you think you're doing something so moral and right, why would you stop?”

Right. So then for the past few years after that, he had to relapse, had some issues, but his family was holding him together. He was doing good. He was going through things.

And then he docked or shopped his way to Ellen Weeb. Yes, I've heard of her. I think we've talked about her on the show, actually. Ellen is at the Willow Clinic in Vancouver. Everybody knows where she's at because she's been performing abortions there for 40 years.

Hmm. So she just loves death. She's just dead.

The stuff I got about this woman, I am very clear to state, or all public, or all found on

“the internet, and are all codable, and they're not inflammatory because I'm just reading”

what you say out loud. And she was one of the doctors who brought the abortion bill to Canada. I mean, the pill at home abortion pill to Canada. So she's been doing those, and then she got into mage. She helped get it legalized, helped write legislation, and she's on the border dying with

dignity, as well as can map, which trains all of our doctors had to be killers. And then she also does mage. So I call it medical murder. So she, he doctor shopped his way to her. He qualified her.

He got on a plane in December last year, flew to Vancouver by himself, picked up the prescription, by himself, got in a car, went to a funeral home, and was killed inside the funeral home by Ellen Weib. Hmm. Wow.

I have the pictures and the receipts of him picking up the prescriptions with her name on them,

and the amount he paid for them. He purchased his own drugs poison the end of his life. And then I actually called that funeral home couple weeks ago, and I did a video of it.

“And I just said, hey, I'm just curious, do you do mage here?”

They're like, oh my gosh, yes, what's your name? I have a two minute video on my social media platform where you can hear them selling me made for $400 service. The doctor to meet you there. Are you guys able to provide made at your funeral home location?

We are, yeah, and just a comment that's your birthday. Kelsey. And they also do just in case you're curious, they also handle the whole funeral and the premature right there. So they're making a lot of money.

So what's supposed to be these physical maladies that people have either terminal or we don't know if it's terminal, but there's a slippery slope, obviously worked in there where people with mental health conditions are using whatever other underlying condition they have to be to main just a bite. And this is being, this is not only legal, it's not only glorified, it's paid for by the

taxpayer. Correct. So that is my question. I mean, you could talk about the ideology behind it. The morality of the people in charge to think there's an overpopulation crisis, or

people should have ultimate bodily autonomy to choose what they want to do.

But I always have to wonder about the financial incentives going on here.

Like who's making all of this money off of people being murdered by the medical system? Would you like to know? I would. I brought stuff free for this because I don't play with this. One of their biggest things these, I call them the death cults like to do is come

at me and be like, "She's not a doctor, she doesn't know, I'm like you're right. I've just healed from everything you're killing people for." Yeah. Let's try. Shall we?

Okay. So when we're looking at numbers here in Canada specifically, as of the 2024 report, we're looking at an average of around 2,200 doctors in Canada that now perform made assessments and made kills. Okay.

“To be killed, you need to be a scene by two assessors.”

Now the person is going to actually do the killing. They have to be, you can do up to five assessments. Okay. Now the other assessor can do up to three assessments. Each assessment can be built for up to 105 hours.

They charge $50 every 15 minutes. So you just do more assessments. You could say somebody doesn't even qualify at the end of this, right? So you could build for five assessments. You do the math on that.

It's pretty substantial. Now the process itself, when let's take a look at this because this is where people's brains are going to break, Canada is about to hit our 100,000th death between April and June of the share. Okay.

We're going to hit 110,000 by the end of the year without expansion to mental illness. It starts March of 2020 or that 27. So this is just as the law sits right now. Now roughly 350 people out of those 2,200 are doing the majority of the killing. So think about that, 100,000 people, 350 people, that's an average.

When you do on a low end of a math scale, these people are making six almost seven figures. They've done this since 2016. Like, so when we did the math on Ellen, we did a low number. Like, and I mean, like, say she only did two assessments, say she only did the one kill, say she only bought the prescription, you know, she made around $860,000.

So it's 2016. That's not even doing the abortions. She does during the day, too. Those are roughly around $200 a pop, depending on how far the term is, Canada goes all the way to term.

So this woman has made an entire life, killing people. So the way they break it down, now based on the billing code itself right now, on the working theory is this. So say, at 55% of those people, the 350 physicians did 55% of the 100,000 procedures. That's about 157 kills per doctor in that 350.

But we all know this.

“It's not just about the doctor in making money, because it's easy money.”

Very easy money.

If you can, you don't have to treat anything.

You have to treat anything. You can qualify somebody, and you know what, you can be killed same day with made if you're track one. Right. Wow.

You can be killed same day with made if you are track one. Yes, ma'am. So if you say, I've got a terminal illness, I've got this stage 4 pancreatic cancer, and you can get a chance at it, right? Exactly.

That day. Yes, ma'am. Wow. Yeah. And we've had a significant amount of people over 4,000 people have that happened

to them. This is not me being some, you know, half baked journalists. This is data that everyone can read and see and look at themselves very apparent. This is happening. The Ontario Corneau report has come out recently, explaining the amount of coercion and manipulation

and wrongful death they believe, but it's pretty difficult to look at these and go, well, we messed up here. Well, that person's dead. So now what? Yeah.

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Because what you're saying is not all of these people are like the person that you just described the 26 year old, which of course, that was wrong anyway. But he did go, you know, he went out of his way to find the person and to make all of this happen. But you're claiming, and I guess the coroner is off this. I'm not claiming the Ontario coroner reports has claimed this as well.

They are also saying that some people don't want this, and they are being manipulated into it. How is that happening? Quite easily. It's a societal contagion.

“So in Canada, the way that we work is our healthcare system is funded by the taxpayer, right?”

So health Canada has partnered with CanMap. Well, CanMap is the Canadian Sessor of Made Practitioners, right? These are the people who get trained by a specific body, which just to be very clear. The IP that is taught to the doctors, we're not legally allowed to see the IP, meaning their programs, their education, how they do it, how they teach doctors, we're not

legally allowed to see even though they're a charity, which means we should have legal access. Who's a charity? Dying with dignity. Okay. So, dying with dignity partners with people like CanMap.

Okay. It's a whole, it's like a top down. Go, health Canada here. Okay. Very top.

This is your government. This is your health care system. Now go down a line. And this is called CanMap. These are the people that train all of the doctors that go through the protocol.

This is how you become a made doctor. You have to go through it. It's a closed platform. We can't get access to it. We don't know what they're being taught.

Health Canada bought the IP and education from CanMap without even seeing it. So we don't know what's being taught into these schools and to these doctors and these practitioners. We're supposed to just trust it. Well, the same people that are on the board of dying with dignity, which are the

largest pro-death cult in the country, you won't see it. That is a charity. That is a charity.

They are worth right now around 9 million on average.

They spend about $700,000 to $800,000 promoting suicide on Meta on Facebook.

“So now we're talking about how do we get it to people?”

This is how we get it. They work with individuals in palliative care facilities. They work with them in hospices. They work with them with doctors. They advertise.

They do documentaries. They're head doctors right, books. They go on speaking tours. They slow drip this mentality. And these are the people dying with dignity that challenged the Supreme Court.

And they got this through the law. And this is a lobbying group, essentially. And the day I testified at the largest veteran suicide study that I just spoke about with Christine, that same day, Senator Pamela Wallen from Saskatchewan, who has built her entire career off of veterans' backs, was doing a backdoor clothes meeting with dying with dignity

and all of the senators of Canada to push the expansion for mental illness. And so you have these lobbying arms that are also donated to by the government, multi-millions

And then you have private donors who fund them as well. And they go around. And they do these educational things at churches. They do them in veteran groups. They do them in nursing homes.

They do them in libraries in my town to pensioners. And they target the vulnerable. And they say, you know what, when it's time to die, here's the paperwork. And if you guys want to leave us, you're a state that would be lovely to. So it's a slow drip.

And then you get people like, there's a TV show called Mary Kills People. It was based out in NBC. It was on Netflix.

“Talks about a doctor going rogue and youth-enizing people, right?”

Then you have Apple TV who did the today show, who did a whole episode on Dignitas, which is the famous place in Switzerland you go to when you're wealthy and you die there. And they bragged about it, right? So it's the entire globe right now is looking at this and going, how do we best manage our population density and our healthcare issues and our immigration problems?

Oh, we just kill everyone. And here's the kicker that most Americans don't fully wrap their brain around.

They could never imagine Americans having this done to them.

But if Canada, in less than 10 years, has killed 100,000 people, let me show you a comparison that should maybe wake people up. During the war before the Holocaust, there was 200,000 German disabled and mentally ill individuals who were unionized by their own medical system. Canada is about to surpass that number in 10 years to its own citizens and population again.

So to think that this is just a Canadian issue, well the Netherlands, you tonight is teenagers, the Dutch, you tonight is teenagers, the Belgium, they, you tonight's teenagers.

“And Canada isn't stopping at Track 1 or Track 2.”

Next year, we expand to mental illness and March, we're discussing mature miners in the Ahmed report in the Parliamentary Report where they're discussing how, if you have a child down to the age of 12, and they have a terminal illness and they decide they want to die with made.

The parents will be consulted, but ultimately the child's decision will be the one that

is taken. If it's a quote unquote, I read that mature miner, which of course is completely to no objective. It's, yes, it's an oxymoron true, and it's also subjective, I mean, in addition to just being morally reprehensible and I live that right.

But I just want to make clear, yes, what we're talking about here, in Canada, it is not legal yet, but considering it to be legal, that a child, yes, a child will be able to choose to be murdered by the medical system, if they have a terminal illness, and I suppose maybe even if they have some of kind of like a track to degenerative disease, well, it gets worse. We're going to babies now.

“So the college of physicians and Quebec started talking about this in 2022, nobody caught”

on. But now they brought it up again in 2025. The College of Physicians is suggesting that we should be able to use the nice babies zero to one who are born with a, what they consider a disorder that will make their quality of life low, okay?

And it's not a coincidence when you actually start paying attention to it because in 2023, the Parliamentary Ahmed Report, which breaks down the expansion of made, discusses how we should be allowing mature miners down to 12. And at the same time, Canada has removed the parental rights of medical care of children up to the age of 12.

So once your child turns 12, you no longer have access to their medical records or their decision-making. The 12-year-old does. And at the same time, we're talking about expanding to children down to the age of 12. Are we all seeing the correlation here?

Right. So there is a concerted effort by these people to tell us that 12 and 13-year-old should have the right to end their lives, and I argue we don't let them vote. We don't let them drive. We don't let them stay home alone legally in the country.

Shoot guns by alcohol, get tattoos, but you want to tell me that a child with an underdeveloped

frontal lobe has the capacity to handle the idea that they will never wake up from something

ever again. That's so morally wrong, that's so if you're just looking from like a basic common sense wrong, everything we know about the brain development wrong, it's all wrong. Yeah. But I'm the bad guy for saying we shouldn't kill kids.

Right. Yeah. What's happening? There's an adultification of kids that has gone on, certainly, this is in America, too. Just believing that you can choose your own gender, that you can make these major decisions

at the same time, there's an infantilization of adults, never like holding adults to the standard of actually being a grown-up, but it's a very strange and disturbing convergence.

Thomas Malphus way back in the day believed that we were going to have overpopulation,

“and we were going to have limited resources, so we really needed to curb population.”

We know that the Bill Gates Foundation and so many other environmentalists believe this, I thought this was interesting from the New York Times. This guy named Paul R. Earl Wick, he alarmed the world with the population bomb, that was his best-selling book in 1968. He just died at the age of 93.

He was criticized because his predictions about overpopulation ruining the earth, of course, didn't come true.

Never come true, because human beings actually add to the environments that we are in,

not just to track, we create more inventions that allow resources to be available to more people. I just think it's interesting that people like this, he didn't choose assisted suicide for himself. He didn't choose to take himself out of the population just because he was scared that the world

was going to be too populous. He thought that he was valuable enough to stay here until the right bold age of 93. But it's all of these other people.

“The veterans who can't speak for themselves, but are disabled, the children, the babies,”

the sick, the elderly, those people are worth enough to stick around. Because we are a burden on the system financially expensive, and we do understand a few things. We understand that if you're an injured veteran, I got injured when I was 19 years old. Well, they're responsible to me to come 60. Right?

Okay, that's a really important point. Yeah. We're very expensive. I mean, all of our injuries, like every single one of them, for example, if Canada actually took accountability for my injuries, I wouldn't have to come to America for treatment.

And right now, you do. So American taxpayers who donated to defenders of freedom, put me through brain treatment, not Canada. Wow. You know, when I needed psychedelic assisted therapy, and I was going through all that stuff,

heroic hearts, former Army Ranger, put me through treatment. So there are, there are real realities in Canada. We don't want to discuss.

We don't want to discuss that we just gave another $2 billion to Ukraine.

And then two weeks later, given another $2 billion over 25 billion to Ukraine. We don't want to discuss the 100 million we're giving to Indian students. We don't want to discuss how our homeless population has a high density of veterans. We don't want to discuss the over million people. We brought into the country that's collapsing our healthcare system.

We don't want to discuss the 23,000 people that die in a waitlist every year. The people over a million people who walked into ERs last year to the tune of like legitimately over a million people who did not see doctors. We don't want to discuss the waitlist to see psychiatrists being 8 to 12 months. But we want to kill you the same day.

Right. So I'm kind of done with this is empathy, compassion, and dignity conversation. Those are words. Like the word made, those are words that are meant to sanitize the reality of what this is. This is a doctor telling you I'm going to walk you into a room, I'm going to hook you up

to two IVs. And I'm going to push so much poison into your body that I actually have to paralyze you because you'll convulse otherwise while your lungs filled with fluid. And you drownsteth in front of your loved ones and then we're going to call it compassion. And to kick it off, we're going to give you guys a children's book and ask your children

to watch too. So, okay, wait, tell me, yeah, I got a lot darning. So that lovely charity we spoke about the dying with dignity, this thing I'm just wonderful. They have a children's book, it's a coloring book, talks about how we kill grandma and how it's compassionate and empathetic, how's beautiful.

Wow. So we start. So just how the the trans ideology movement started targeting children's bottom up. The mental illness and the terms of uthanasia and eugenics and all of these, we target

“top down and we're kind of meeting in the middle here, right?”

So it's pretty easy to justify, you know, Ali, you're going to lose your mind in a few years, you're not going to be able to feed yourself at each, you know, you're going to have to go into a palliative care facility which they're also defunding in Canada. And you can't get access to for pain management. So we don't want you to suffer.

So why don't you sign this thing called an advanced request so that in a little bit we'll give it to you and then when you're not in your right mind, we'll just do it. And do you know what happens when that goes wrong?

The case in Denmark, the grandmother, it's a very first thing I talk about in my book.

This grandmother did an advanced request, she had dementia and she was going in and out of a spell and her doctor put a sedative in her coffee, didn't tell her and then they started to do the procedure and youth and I said she came to have with her, she begged them to stop and the doctor asked the family to hold her down and they did and they killed her and then the doctor wasn't charged.

because the killer human isn't dignified and I say that from lived experience. Right.

“So I feel so called to protect the vulnerable population because I've seen what happens when”

government sees dollars and cents over human life. I see what happens when we kill 96% of our population with made that are white. I see it happening in America in your 13 states and one jurisdiction. I see it in your groups like compassion and choices are dying with dignity, where we're

$35 million dollars, who partner with social justice groups, okay we have so much and I just

want to make sure, because I know I don't want people to lose what you're saying because it is all so important. So I want to get to that compassionate choice, let's phone it. But we're about to get into a whole segment about America. So I want to pause on one thing, okay, because you're talking about what we are told

happens in Uthanasia, which is just this peaceful process where the family comes together and holds grandma's hands after she had dementia for 12 years and then she passes peacefully into the night and wow, she had control over one last thing in her life and that was the end and then what actually happens, people waking up in the middle of it, people with mental

“health conditions, getting pills to kill themselves and then sometimes also it's actually”

painful and sometimes I saw a story in Oregon because this is happening in the U.S. is we'll get into, took 137 hours, because it wasn't working correctly. Now people get really squirmish when we're talking about death row and made to have brutally raped and murdered a grandmother, it not being killed in under 30 seconds. They get super enraged about this, but if we're talking about a sick person in the hospital,

not being able to successfully die after over 100 hours is like, well, that was just their choice.

The reality is it's very brutal, it is and we have to stop pretending it's not.

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He's a Canadian, works down here, critical care and anesthesiology.

He did the very first post-mortem autopsy research on over 200 lethal injection patients, because sodium phyopentyl stopped being allowed in America and they couldn't figure out why. And it's because it's a European product and they believe over there in the EU, you cannot use any of our drugs to die. It's cool.

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So yes, people will say, "But Kelsey, that's not the drugs we're using Canada. You're right. Most of the drugs that kill you in Canada are actually the paralytic, because we paralyze you first." Because it's easier to put somebody down if they're paralyzed first, right?

So there is a list of drugs that I provided your team and, you know, the profile which sounds normal, reincarnium sounds normal, all of these, but in mass doses, it's poison on the body. So the body will fight.

“So that's why you have to use a paralytic first.”

So what happens if you change your mind or your in pain, where you can't scream, you can't say anything. So regardless in Canada, we do 99% of its uthanasia, which is the IVs. The rest of it, the very 1% is the cup. That's what America does.

We give you a cup filled with poison. That's why it's called physician assisted suicide. I set the cup down in front of you, filled with the poison and say, "Now you drink it." Okay?

And that is what happens down here in America. And that's why you get the 137 hours to die. That's why you get the doctors that are manipulating language, calling things terminal anorexia and qualifying individuals out of Colorado, a young girl, who had anorexia her whole

And it was struggling with it, which is a mental condition.

Which is a mental condition. And a doctor decided to change the terminology and call it terminal anorexia. She was offered, she was offered mate when she just needed food. Absolutely. Wow.

This is not a one-off either. That's the worst part. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the fact that this is happening in the U.S.

Because we hear all of these stories of all the different subjects from Canada, we're like, "Hello, what is going on up there? This being probably the most disturbing." But this is happening in the United States too. I think people don't understand this scale.

Yeah. If you could tell us in the facts on that. Yeah.

“Let's talk about it because I think it's really important so that you guys can protect”

yourself. So in America, currently, you have 13 states and one jurisdiction, Washington, D.C. is your 14th essentially. Okay. So they are California, Colorado, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Montana, New Jersey, New

Mexico, New York, which just signed in through Kathy Hogle, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and Washington, D.C. Now, in Oregon and Vermont, there is no residency requirement. So anybody from anywhere can take a one-way flight. Okay.

Now, the new legislation sets on the table currently, or Virginia, Tennessee, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Minnesota, mass, Kentucky, Iowa, Arizona. And so the thing you have to understand about all of these different places is there's a group called Capashana Choices, like our dying with dignity, who are lobbying your government quietly.

And they have partnered with the social group, the Rayben Group, which partners with the Bill Gates Foundation, the Obama Foundation and BIPOC, and you name a hard left. They've worked with that to get that stuff moving, okay.

This organizations were $33 to $35 million based on their tax last year that I took

a look at.

“Now, these people are making a push also in Florida, even though there's no legislation,”

because they're targeting areas of a vulnerable population in aging population. So they're working with the Rayben Group to go around to these places and start slow-dripping the ideology that we should be accepting this behavior before they bring in legislation to somebody like to send us. Okay.

Because I feel like he's going to try to stop that. I'd hope they got. Yeah. For sure. Like, you have senators who work with the Capashana Choices and have these private

meetings. Do you know any of their names? I have a long, long, long list. I can send you. I think you should go through them.

The Democrats ain't Republicans. Yes. Montana was Republicans, I voted it. Right. That was a disturbing one.

Yeah, Montana is such a strange state. Yeah, such a strange state legislatively, because it is so Republican, but it's not necessarily conservative in pro-life. Right. And that's what we're seeing.

So they are using these groups, these social groups, these social justice groups. Right. You're nailing it. And they're slow-dripping the ideology to churches and to synagogues and to places. And they're telling people, well, we want you to have control.

We want you to not suffer. And my pushback is very simply this. There is a lot to be learned in suffering for the people around you that are witnessing and for yourself as well. And I'm not saying that without empathy.

I'm saying it with an understanding that to experience life means to experience it all fully. And for us to sit there and play God is not something I'm okay with. For get religion, you don't get to kill somebody because somebody's ideology told them it was acceptable behavior.

And that's my struggle. So in the United States right now, you are slow rolling. And compassion and choices, they're so smart. They've put all their information out there for me to find. And they said it in their most recent YouTube video.

By 28, they will have over 50% of the American population living in states that kill as healthcare.

“But they've also stated what we say to this way, you have to be careful.”

They always start with track one.

And then they state very, very openly these senators. We just need to get the law through and then we will amend from there. So it will not stop at grandma with you. It will go the same way it goes, everywhere it goes and we'll go all the way down to babies. And then we'll justify it because that's how it works.

It's a slow drip mentality, that's my concern, I've reached out to, I'm speaking with a DC Senator soon, I've reached out to, you know, friends of mine at the American Conservative Coalition, I've reached out to pretty much anybody who will allow me to talk about this to go, please dear God, hear what I'm saying because once this is in your law, it is almost impossible to walk back.

Yeah. Health care system sees this as a tool for saving and as an actual form of health care, you are naturally going to have people that enjoy doing it, whether we like to admit that or not. Yeah.

And that's where we're at.

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Okay, we got a hone in on something that you said. Christian organizations, synagogues, Catholic organizations, the pope has said, which this is the official standard of the Catholic Church, they're against assisted suicide.

“I'm not Catholic, but I believe that that is the case.”

And yet, these organizations, and some of these churches are being manipulated by compassionate choices into supporting, dying with dignity. Yes. Youth in Asia. It's telling me more about that.

So compassionate choices in America loves to target those. And what they actually did, roughly it was 2017, before they allowed for this to go through in New York, they had an entire group put together where they went and they decided that they were going to lobby together. They're going to get a bunch of reverends, a bunch of priests together, and they were

going to say, "Yes, we don't want to do this, but we believe it's compassion." So Reverend, there was a senior pastor at a Baptist Church, Reverend Johnny Green, rabbi David Gordes, Reverend Valerie Ross, Reverend Dr. Richard Gilbert, father Lewis Barri. So, and we have all of these individuals that came to New York, and this was life, the folks of this lifeway research.

So they did a survey of where the American people are at, and they believed that people want this. And they say, "We've sat at the deathbed of all of these dying people, and we don't want people to suffer, we should be able to allow them and accept them into this process of ending their lives without talking about the morality issue, forget that.

There's so much more to it, when you have Catholics, they're saying, or 59 percent, this is from the survey specifically in 25. So, the lifeway research, 59 percent Catholic supported at 41 percent opposed. Catholics lean more than not, which is interesting for us. You know what?

I'm sorry, you know what? It's surprising. Catholics in general are in the same way on abortion, despite the church's official stance, Catholics just lean liberal on every issue. Exactly.

Protestants, 42 percent, and support 58 opposed, even jellicles, 40 percent, 60 opposed. They were the strongest opposition group. Of course.

The evangelicals always are, but it's not enough.

Right. 40 percent in favor of youth in Asia is, I mean, way, way too much. Yeah, I would think so. That's insane. Yeah.

And they even go down to non-Christian religions, 42 percent, similar to Protestants, then we had 63 support. And the highest support were the unaffiliated, 63 of Catholics, 59, Protestants, 42, non-Christian, 42, and even jellical 40. And so when we're looking at it, they make the argument right about, we just, we were

having this conversation, they make the argument about, you know, if God is the individual who decides who takes life and not, if you follow the Bible, most people, their whole

“life will go, I believe in this, and I will not deviate.”

Until they see somebody suffering so, in such an extreme pain, and then they flip. Right. And that's when the human comes in. Yeah. And you said, and I want to hear you talk about this a little bit more, there is an underlying

assumption when we say compassion means alleviating suffering at whatever cost that suffering is inherently evil or bad. I think the instinct to alleviate suffering is understandable, especially as moms, like we all have that. Yes.

And also learn that if I avoid every single hardship for my child, then they will never

grow. They'll never get the benefits that you get from some of that suffering. Now they're limitations to that. Of course. But when it comes to this, we're saying suffering is so bad that we have to end it even

That's a misunderstanding of the purpose of life and suffering. Exactly. You're nailing it. You're nailing it perfectly.

“There's not much more to say to it, other than this is this life is designed to happen”

for you and not to you. And that is a choice you make to be a victim or to be an individual who has gone through significant amount of hardship and says, I can keep going because in spite of it creates character. It creates a different type of human and it creates often a person who ends up changing

the world.

But if you devoid somebody of suffering, they never get the opportunity to learn what

they're capable of. And I'm not saying obviously Grandma's 96, we know what Grandma's capable, she's lived a whole life. But what is to be taught about saying that Grandma, we should be using as in grandma because she's no longer, she's a bit of a burden.

We have to see her every Sunday, she's not doing well. We have to go into that place, I don't want to go in. We're teaching our youth that people and our families are disposable humans. And we are moms and I understand exactly what you're saying.

“And there is a level of suffering, I think that the creates a person that can change things”

and help people heal. But when we tell the world that no suffering is acceptable at all, that is disproportionate and completely wrong and frankly creates a victim mindset that I am not okay with. You make a good point that a lot of this could be actually not about alleviating pain for the person who is dying, but alleviating discomfort and inconvenience for the family.

There you go. Exactly what it is, because we're no longer worried about the person, because we've heard people, we had a case recently in Ontario, Mrs. B. Mrs. B. didn't want to die. She applied for maid a while ago and her husband was suffering from caregiver syndrome. He was burnt out because health Canada just stopped caring.

They went into the ER again that next day after she said, "I don't want maid." She said, "Base on my religion, I've changed my choice. I don't want maid." I want palliets of care and hospice and they denied her that and they killed her the same day. So, we have people who, there's a case in BC, when we could do case after case, there's case in BC and BC is British Columbia, I live there, sorry.

And it's just above Washington State and has been decided, he made a maid plan for his wife that she did not want. They had to remove her from his custody because they did not trust him, because she was trying so hard to get her youth and I said, "Well, at least she was protected in that case."

That's probably not always the case with them and we know that because coercion is real, slow

dripping is real. If you tell somebody slowly every day, it's just really expensive to get care for you. It's just been really hard to look after you. I'm really tired. I'm really exhausted. The kids are having a hard time seeing you like this. That is the carrot that dangles in front of the veterans and the homeless and the addicts and the mentally ill and the disabled and when your discernment is not there and you're already

struggling with pain and you can't because I have been there where I cannot imagine being able to breathe tomorrow. That weight is so heavy, just inhaling is so heavy. So now imagine your loved one slowly saying, "I just don't want you to suffer anymore. I don't want you to struggle anymore." These are these little tiny moments that we are slowly telling somebody

“that their life is no longer worth living because it's difficult to look after them.”

So what are you slowly saying? You're saying, "Here's an option." If you choose to take it, we won't be mad at you. Do you know how heartbreaking that is to say that we should just, we should just go and kill Grandma and then we set a precedent for that family. It's not a big deal because we killed Grandma. So when Mom's now sick, why not we just kill Mom? And why wait till she's 90's sick? Because she's not feeling good when she's 50,

when here's my, here's my fear. When March of 2027 comes, these numbers are going to go into the mental. Okay, so it's not much of this here. It's March of next year. Right. That made will be allowed for mental health, which by the way is already completely subjective. Thank you. Because you could have, you're about to have the baby. You had a baby. I've had three myself. You go through some postpartum blues. They're temporary, but they feel

like forever. Yeah. And I didn't go through this much darkness, but I know women who have who literally felt like they're not themselves. They feel like they don't want to live anymore. Right. But they get over it. Thank God. They get over that. But of course, that's the fear. It's all wrong no matter what. Right. But that you have someone going through something who needs help. They need support. And instead, they're going through postpartum depression.

The mom is killed. And you know what the most heartbreaking thing is is this isn't

even the first time. I talked about it on trigonometry in 2023. We had a young girl go into a hospital

on her lap and said, have you thought about made? So we have to understand that there are going

“to be ups and downs in life. And if you live in Canada, according to the Bank of Canada,”

we have to get used to a lower standard of living. So get used to it. We're in one of the hardest recessions. Our dollars worth nothing. Our housing is being taken over by Indigenous communities and our land is worth nothing. We're being stripped of our rights and our freedom of speech, our gun rights, our rights to move. We're falling into a very scary place to live in my country. And then we're now slow rolling a time where you can't see a doctor for healthcare,

but you can be made at the same day. So we're going down a very scary road. And like my friend Malice says, it's not a slippery slope anymore. Kelsey, it's an elevator shaft. And by the time this happens next year, there is one bill. It's called bill C218. Alberta is putting a new bill through. It's coming out. They're going to announce at this week where they're going to enforce stopping track two in Alberta. It has to go province by province. So they are putting it in. So track two

mentally ill, mature miners, not even a conversation. So hopefully Alberta gets that through. But we do have one called bill C218 where people can go and they can reach out to their MP to their their municipal individuals and say, I don't support this. And we can actually

“stop made for mental illness. But we have, I think, until the end of April. And if we don't stop”

it by then, it starts legally being enforced starting March of 27. And like I said, they've already suggested mature miners in the admin report, which means it's a plan. And can map does a conference once a year. And they're doing it again at the end of April in Montreal where they're talking about the next decade of what Canada's going to look like. And I promise you, on on my life, if mental illness goes, this is going to be the tip of that 100,000 is going to be the tip of the

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Made is been what they've stated. So all I have and all I can go after. So the first one was the government. The veterans affairs a few years back during the Justin Trudeau saga of tyranny decided that they were going to sell 50% of the veterans care to many life insurance. And many life would follow me around with P.I. is trying to say that my disabilities were fraudulent. And then last year, when I started speaking after I did trigonometry, that kind of really went viral. And when we're

talking about this and then I did the episode on Jordan Peterson where we talked about the drugs

and exploded. And I didn't expect that I've never had that happen. And some people started getting

really angry online. And there was one particular guy whose wife was denied made because she was dying and he deemed it was my fault. And so he found out where I lived and threatened my family and found it where my kid went to school and we had to get the federal police involved and he was arrested in December of last year. Wow. And so I'm not naive to where I'm at. I don't quite have a big enough show yet to have what you guys kind of have here security wise. So I'm just very careful

about where I move, how I move, where I go, I just try to blend into stuff. And I just try to be honest with, I know that I was putting a position. I survived overseas. I survived what I went through because of my community because God told me I could do something deeper. He told me when I was four. Just keep talking. We'll do something with that voice. Just give it time and for like most of my childhood it was hell. But I give it time, give it time. And then I just kept pushing and

veteran started coming forward and saying this is happening. Can you do something about it? And I have a little bit of a different approach than most people. I'm a little more aggressive the most people. But I'm relentless. And so I can be threatened and I can be all of these things X, Y, and Z. But it's not going to stop me from telling the world what you're doing. Yeah. So the consequences will be with the consequences will be, but I know I am protected and I lean into that.

Yeah. How can people who are watching get involved? Oh, yeah. So if you're in Canada, you can reach out to all of your local MPs, your senators, everyone and say if you ever want to be voted in again, you're stopping this right away. You can reach out to the CRA and say hey are these

“really non-profits that we should be allowing in our country when they just advertise killing?”

That's always great. And this CRA is the Canadian revenue agency. Okay. That's always great.

In America, you can reach out to the senators. I have a sub stack where I have put every link to every senator, to every piece of legislation. And I write on made three days a week. And then I have the Kelsey Sharon perspective where I'm the only podcast in the globe where I cover this five days a week. So if you can handle the dark humor in this, we give you a ton of resources where you can find out how to stop it, who you can reach out to and how you can really start to slow

this in America and hopefully roll it back because if you don't promise you, you guys and your population density, you're going to make Canada look like nothing. And I don't want this for you guys, me neither. Yeah. Thank you Kelsey. So much. Thank you for being the Canadian the coal mine. And unfortunately, that is what Canada is for the United States in so many ways. And I don't wish that for Canada. I want the best for our Canadian friends. But I am thankful there are people like

you who are sounding the alarm and looking down at your friends here and saying hey, like you all have a problem too. You'll need to figure this out before it. Yeah, it starts getting out of your control. So thank you. And it's just important to state that I'm not alone in this fight. I had a lot of really amazing mentors from the Youth and Asia Prevention Coalition. Doctors, private surgeons will come up to me and like tell me things and give me evidence and proof. And you know, I can't do

what I do without people who are willing to back me. And I got to say I've never been in the

pro-life community before, but I have never seen so much support in my life coming across the board of people who just want to see this stop and weren't sure how to make it loud. And now they're really starting to back this. So yeah, I am so eternally grateful from anybody from any era who just wants to see this message stop. So it is important to make sure we acknowledge the people that really help me out because it's a big deal. I can't do it on my own. Well, you know, we pro-life

first, we just have the same motto, what it comes to, Youth and Asia as we do with abortion,

that killing an innocent person is always wrong. Yeah, killing an innocent person is always wrong,

“end of story. And if you're for Youth and Asia or you're for abortion, you have to tell,”

you have to explain to me why you think it's okay to sometimes killing an innocent person. I don't really need to defend my common sense position. You tell me why some murder is okay. God, you're so refreshing. Well, so we're you. And I'm very grateful for you. And we will be praying. We have a phrase on the show called sharing the arrows that when arrows are lodged towards an ally. Instead of saying, well, I'm so glad that's not me. We stand up and we say, you know what?

Whatever arrows you're sitting towards her, I'll take them to. Because I also believe that. And everyone in this audience is going to do that. Praying for you, supporting you, subscribing to you and just encouraging you, especially as you are about to have a baby. Because

“it's a crazy time. Oh, yes. He's been with it. It's been busy. But you know what? That's why”

you just take it. You're given the time and the opportunity you can. And you just run as quickly as you can. And save as many as you can. Totally. Thank you so much, Kelsey. Thank you.