Episode 5: Friends and Enemies

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and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, federal comedians and favorite others, like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80's. If you can, it was a wild year.

“I don't think there's a more important year for black people.”

Listen to look back at it on the eye-heart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. James was trying to befriend this guy. Taking out bissaria, make him into an ally. Back with good politician.

Can't tell me in high-run months or not. That was James Davis. If you got into a fight with James Davis, shame on you.

Because that guy was always trying to make friends.

That's what he was. It's very hard for council members to lose reelection. Certainly wasn't going to lose to this guy. Can't also speak her a gif at Miller. James had such confidence in his charisma.

He's like, I'm going to go charm this guy and to not only not running against me, then I'm going to make him love me, you know, which ultimately led to his death. You know, he just bent the rules all the time, man.

Journalist, Errol Lewis. New James Davis, some central Brooklyn. I got to be friends with him. I love James Davis. He was a good guy, you know, underneath at all.

But he just habitually took these little chances that he shouldn't have. You can run it to a crowded traffic intersection with a blindfold once and make it to the other side of the street.

But you can't make a habit of that. For a guy who was a cop, he just didn't pay a lot of attention to who he was with. The politicians side of him wanted to shake every hand, kiss every baby, and he would just grab people

and say, hey, I'm going to my next stop. Want to come with me to somebody who's more or less a total stranger. Now, you don't know who that person is. You don't know if they're armed.

You don't know if they're carrying drugs. You don't know if they're crazy. Yeah, I mean, anything could happen. For him, it was a party, and he was the host. And if he wanted to drag you over to this side of the party

to say hi to another friend, he would just do it. James had spent his career making friends. But as he grew from ambitious young man to New York City cop to a candy politician, he made plenty of enemies along the way. The silver 40 caliber of handgun was recovered.

Somebody tell me that. What's the coincidence? It was clear. It was clear. When I thought that he was unstable, and it was times when I got

maybe you shouldn't carry a gun. He alleged he was victim of the flat nail. It was not just killing somebody because he wanted to see it. I'm Jamal Jordan, and this is Russia.

to run for Congress.

James's first race was a long shot.

He challenged incumbent Congressman Major Owens. And James didn't even go on the ballot. The next year, he decided to run against another popular incumbent, city council member Mary Pinkett. Era Lewis had already thrown his hat in the ring.

So this is 1997. I decided to run for office. He contacted me, introduced himself. He said, "Oh, I was going to run, but I see you're running." I'd like to work you guys at doing, and I'd love to support you, et cetera, et cetera.

“I think maybe, might have been 48 hours later.”

Basically, a process server shows up at my house, and it turns out he's suing me and trying to have me thrown off the ballot. In the very race that he said he wasn't going to be a part of. So that wasn't all that unusual for Brooklyn politics, but it was, you know, it was something.

Even though this was this first race, era Lewis had spent time in local politics. He knew how campaigns worked. He had endorsements from other politicians and from the near times and from the local black newspaper, the Amsterdam news. They did all of the normal things you do.

He was doing something entirely different, because he didn't know anything about any of this stuff. He was a cop. He was curious about politics, but he hadn't ever worked on a campaign. And so he was kind of shadowing me.

I would work subway stops, go out and hand out literature. He then tried to sort of shadow that. We ripped down his poster, so then he figured that's the way it goes, and though they would rip down my poster. You know, it was during this race that Earl saw the darker,

more intimidating side of James Davis.

“He rolled up on some of my campaign workers and they came back quite rattled,”

saying that, you know, look this guy, he's like he flashed his gun at us. It happened more than once.

The first I was thinking was like, what?

He pulled it out and he didn't have them. No, it was nothing like that. It was more like he was talking at them, and then he kind of reached down, he's wearing a jacket, and he could sort of lift up the flap of the jacket.

And then you could see that he had a holstered gun on his hip. Maybe you don't need to take out that gun and aim it at someone for it to feel like a threat. It's kind of like mentioning to an opponent that you have dirt on them. The fact that you might use that dirt, that goes without saying.

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The most powerful man in Brooklyn politics.

It was pretty outrageous for him to run against Clarence. I mean, this was the first Black County organization chairman in the multi-century history of the King's County Democratic organization. And that was just considered sacrilege. There's no making peace after that.

And James didn't want to make peace. You know, he had a job that. Even the mighty King's County organization could not take away from him. Because the NYPD, if anything, is probably a bigger gang. Then the Brooklyn Democrats, one of the few organizations

that's like a bigger one of the five families. Here's this little upstart that he couldn't do anything about. He couldn't get him fired. He couldn't make him go away. He couldn't make the billboards vanish.

And so it was just kind of an uneasy frosty standoff between the two of them.

My former Eric Inklus.

“He ran the Democratic County organization,”

which most people just refer to as the machine. When you're at this hop of the Brooklyn Democratic machine, you have huge influence. You could enrich yourself or your buddies. And you could control who got into office and who didn't.

You could control who became a judge and who didn't. It was corrupt to put it lightly. Clarence Norman eventually did a stint in prison for accepting illegal campaign contributions. But in the late 1990s,

I was still a figure as a way. Everybody understood that it was better for an aspiring Brooklyn politician to kiss the ring than to stand against the mighty Clarence Norman. The way to do it was to go through Clarence. He could help you raise money.

He could help you win. But in exchange, you had to do something for him. And it was pretty obvious that James did not want to be Clarence Norman's tool. He did not want to roll over and do whatever Clarence said. It exchange for Clarence's blessing to get on the ballad and win.

“Other people were really afraid to take on that guy.”

That monstrous that Kingpin, if you will. The Jeffrey Davis knew that his brother was fearless and went straight for the biggest dog in the yard.

But the challenge to bully, so he's always taken on the bully.

Who's the toughest guy in the school? Who's the toughest guy in boxing? Who's the toughest guy in politics? Whatever this was the toughest guy, that's the one we're going towards. And Clarence Norman was the toughest guy, if you will.

James didn't just enter the primary. He challenged Clarence Norman to his face. He literally went to Clarence Norman's office and he went to Clarence Norman. You were in my suit? That's my tie.

That's a nice tie. You were in my suit. You were in my office and then told the staff members, you'll be working for me soon after this race. I first met James Davis around 1994.

Clarence Norman, Jr. He was a very articulate and charismatic individual.

I never tell anyone about staff people.

I said one day, that guy was going to run for office. And he did, and he ran against me. Clarence had all the power in Brooklyn, politics. But he wasn't prepared for how trashed, energetic. James Davis would be as an opponent.

James Davis would campaign virtually 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Out on the street, stopping cars, giving out literature at 11 o'clock at night. Any words? Almost. I guess I was suffering from incumbent tightest,

and I didn't take him seriously enough. And he came within 700 votes of defeated me. Clarence Norman wasn't above playing hardball when he had to. But it turns out, neither was James Davis.

“One of the important constituencies we have here in Crown Heights,”

I would Jewish community. I mean, he used some tactics. He put flyers out and let her out. Said that Clarence Norman was anti-Semitic. And I did not really count to that by reaching out to the awful lot of community.

And they voted almost as a block for him. And they brought him closer to defeated me. Anything that had anything to do with anything. You turned around and said, "It's Clarence Norman's fault." She was a civilly person.

Jeffrey Davis. There's no parking. Clarence Norman's fault. If there's a shooting in the neighborhood, Clarence Norman's fault.

To the Jews, Clarence Norman doesn't support you. I'm the one who supports you. You know, Brooklyn politics, you gotta just find an opening and find a way. Find a way.

Find a way. Find a way. Find a way. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have eggs on the table. How are you finishing that sentiment? Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.

Really?

Yeah, for me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.

Listen to look back at it on the Ihard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yo, I'm a problem in the Crown Heights between the US and the Jewish community.

“And the African American Kurdish community, you have issues with them, okay?”

David Miller works in Brooklyn politics for decades. James had a lot of support with being advised over that. They liked him. And we're saying, damn, how kind of black guy give a little white guy's like that. He had a good relationship with non-black politicians, right?

Which in itself isn't achievement. I don't have anything to say to James Black anymore. I mean, where he went, he was given a lot of love, man. You might look at James Davis as a political opportunist, doing what he needed to do to win. But his relationship to the Jewish community in Crown Heights went deeper than just a few handshakes around election time.

The Davis family's house in Brooklyn Avenue was right around the corner from the center of Jewish life in Crown Heights. One black away, you had the world, a financial headquarters, other lobaba visual with Hasidic movement. The leader of the lobaba movement was Monocon Mendelshenerson. Many of his followers believed he was the Messiah. Where most religious Jews would make a pilgrimage to the Holy Land,

the barvichers come to New York. The Lebarvich Rebe is Monarch in Mendelshenerson. The Rebe is an object of love and esteem, almost worship. He is revered by his followers as father, grew, king, miracle worker.

Like that BBC documentary says,

the Grand Rebe, the leader of the lobothage congregation, was a towering figure in Crown Heights. Even today, there are big posters of the Rebe's face all over the neighborhood. Every Saturday, the Grand Rebe would walk past my house. That's James I Davis, speaking to writer Henry Goldsmith in 1997. And my father would have was out there to say hi to the Grand Rebe.

Shalom Rabbi, now we didn't know that the Grand Rebe was the Grand Rebe. We just knew that there was this older gentleman coming around the corner. And if you wait about 30 seconds, you would see approximately 10,000 bearded men and black suits following him. The Grand Rebe, with this trail of followers, made an impression on young James.

At the child, watching the Grand Rebe walk by, I always felt that I was going to have a calling.

It also inspired me that you could have that kind of power.

“That's why I, one day, will become a great leader.”

I too can be a leader for good. That is what I believe my calling came from the Grand Rebe. To go forward in the show that we are one, the black people, and the Jewish people, we are brothers. James Davis grew up observing these two communities. Their constant misunderstandings and conflicts.

Their mutual distrust. Many of my little brother, we got off the train and the group of Jewish kids, say something to us. And then we start running and now that might have been because those Jewish kids fathers, was telling them negative things about these kids coming at our neighborhood. Not realizing that me and my brother was raised in this neighborhood.

And I grew up, I see many Jewish women and men who across the street.

“And I see many black men because they had heard so much negativity about black people, I'm sure.”

So they was acting on their fears also. By 1991, tensions between the black and aesthetic communities and crown heights had reached a boiling point. It was a build-up because one community felt the other community was getting more. A lot of people in the African American community felt that they were the have not said, you get the police protection. You get the sanitation protection.

And because of lack of understanding and no politician addressing these misunderstandings in these misconceptions, then the tension continues to grow. And now you got a nice, beautiful power cake. And then all you need is the right tragic incident and get it anything. It was ready to go.

Crown heights is becoming a hotbed.

“Thomas Dijon wrote the book, New York, New York, New York.”

And there is becoming an increasing kind of competition for space physically, but also culturally, and economically there. It all erupts on August 19, 1991. The Rebi Minacham Shnerson was given a regular police escort to go see his wife's grave. And one day, one of the cars runs a red light and runs into two West Indian kids. The Rebi is motorcade struck and killed seven-year-old Gavin Kato, who was riding his bike.

Retalliation, a group of young black men killed the LeBavic Jew named Ginkl Rosenbaum. Yankl Rosenbaum was killed a few feet from my home. Jeffrey Davis again. And when he was killed, that's the riots. Bottles being through.

You can hear the chaos unfolding around reporter Tim Minton in this clip from WABC. Dozens of demonstrators vented their anger with bottles and rocks that kept police and residents running in duckland. The area's latest flare-up followed a fatal accident last night that left seven-year-old Gavin Kato. And his seven-year-old cousin seriously injured. It's not good.

And the Dinkens Police Department just is not reactive to it.

When Mayor David Dinkens, the first black mayor in New York City history arrived.

Along with the second ever black police commissioner, LeBee Brown, they were greeted with a hail of rocks. After they threw rocks at Dinkens and commissioned the ground, they didn't want to figure it out. The riot was not stopping anytime soon until he got stopped. City Councilman Heinrich Montserrat was a cop at the time. He, along with many other members of the NYPD, resented in the Crown Heights, put it into the riots.

It was really like an occupation forced that landed on Crown Heights.

I remember the fear and all the countless people who would beat up in the property damage that occurred.

It was about three days of rioting.

“We were right in the middle of it. My house and then asked my brother, say we got to do something.”

And then we started to love yourself, stop the violence on both of them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jamesy Davis began leading newly marches every summer, beginning in 1992. They started small, but eventually drew celebrities like iconic boxing promoter Don King. In Cheryl's Salt James from the hip-hop girl group Salt and Pepper.

I just got to tell y'all about a man that I'm at some time ago. He's an extraordinary man. The most sincere individual I've ever met when it comes to love for his people. A leader and a community activist to the highest degree.

And an inspiration to me, and I'm sure he will also be an inspiration to you.

The man of the hour is Jamesy Davis, Y'all support him. This is not about politics. This is about stopping the violence. This is not about politics. This is about stopping the violence. Is that all right? This is about stopping the violence.

“Jamesy Davis insisted that his annual march was not about politics.”

But other side differently, like Clarence Norman. He would have his super-sized posts on the side of buses that had his picture and advertised his march. Super-sized posters of his face. Maybe inspired by what he'd seen from the Grand Revan.

Billboards looming over the neighborhood over major intersections. I mean, it was overwhelming. Several years before he would meet James Davis and run against him, Errol Lewis knew his face from all these posters. We didn't know who this guy was.

Where the money had come from? What the point of all of it was because it all appeared to be pointing to a one day event. It was highly unusual because he was a police officer at the time. And so none of it really added up. It was clear from the very beginning that the march was not the point.

The selling of the march was the point. It was pretty obviously an express route to create buzz, name recognition and visibility for James Davis. For his future political opponents, it did seem to be all about politics. But James Davis also seemed truly committed to his community and to his career. And in a perfect world, he could find ways to serve them both.

In September of 1994, a 13 year old boy named Nicholas Hayward Jr. was playing in the several of the Go Onos houses, allowing him to come housing project in Brooklyn. As father told the known profit organization Story Corps about the tragic events of that day. They were playing the game at Cops and Robbers.

They all had plastic toy guns. And the officer said that he was doing a routine patrol. Nicholas appeared before him suddenly. And the officer shot him. And Nicholas was going.

This was just one of many similar incidents involving toy guns, kids and police, happening all across the country and communities like this one. And there had been efforts for years to try to ensure that Cops didn't mistake these toys for the real thing. A few days after 13 year old Nicholas Hayward was killed, Jamesy Davis makes a call to someone he thought might be able to make a difference.

James reached out to me. He was then a New York City police officer. Michael Goldstein had just taken over a CEO of toys arrest that same year. It was the largest toy retailer in the country.

Eleven billion dollars a year in sales.

We did a big business in all kinds of toy guns. We sold probably millions of them. The shooting of Nicholas Hayward had become a major media story. And Michael Goldstein felt that his company had to respond. I said, this is terrible.

We can't sell those kind of toys anymore. It's wrong. We're a toy company for kids. And we can't sell something that could lead to the death of a child. Incidentally, James called me that day.

He wanted to talk to me about getting rid of realistic toy guns. I said, James, good news.

“We already done it. He said, can I come and meet with you and talk about it?”

I said, absolutely. Both men since the opportunity. It was a perfect time for James to call me telling him, look,

applauding toys for us for what they're doing. And maybe you and I can help. It was a good PR for toys for us. And it became sort of a political platform for a young ambitious Jamesy Davis.

“I think we had a number of television interviews about this.”

Mostly with James. And he used it as a starting point to do more things about stopping the violence. In fact, in James' re-telling of the story, I can list by History Month's special on CBS.

The whole thing was actually his idea. I'm the police officer. I got toys. I was the staff cell. I looked like toy guns. A little boy named Nicholas Haywood was shot and killed by a police officer in Coana's projects in Brooklyn because he had to look like toy gun.

Officer Jamesy Davis not only got these guns taken off the shelves, but is campaigned tirelessly within the police department and his Brooklyn community to raise consciousness. Other New York City cops weren't leading anti-violence marches with celebrity gases,

or speaking out about police shootings. And they weren't putting up giant posters to promote their events, featuring their own face.

I always saw him as a politician, even when he was a police officer.

James is that type of person who could sell you the Brooklyn Bridge. I mean, he's really, very convincing. And my relationship with James became stronger and stronger.

“Unlike Shopton and others who use incidents like this”

to glorify themselves, James really was only doing it far as I saw because he really believed in stopping the violence. James did seem genuinely committed to the cause. But he also might have sensed that having a friend and Michael Goldstein CEO of an 11 billion dollar company would be valuable.

And required a soft touch. James and I really became friends. And he never asked me for money for his campaign. When he decided to run for city council, I said, "Look, I'll do anything I can.

Raise money for you and so on because you'll be terrific." And he was terrific. A win is a win. A win is a win. A win is a win.

I don't care what you're saying. Yep. That's me. Clevver Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, the reactions,

my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

“this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.”

And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard,

but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music.

The Clifford Show isn't just the podcast. It's a space for honest conversations,

stories that don't always get told,

and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me, or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right what you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow @ Clifford, and @ TikTok podcast network on TikTok. In 2023, former bachelor star Clayton Eckard,

found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth.

You doctored this particular test twice in selling stress. I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see

what their tax dollars were being used for. Some likes the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Olesby and Michael Marancini.

My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is LoveTrap. Laura. Scottsdale Police.

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indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until Justice is served in Arizona. Listen to LoveTrap podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. There's two golden rules

that any man should live by.

Rule one, never mess with a country girl.

He plays stupid games, you get stupid prizes. And rule two, never mess with her friends either. We always say that trust your girlfriends. I'm Anna Sinfield. And in this new season of the girlfriends.

Oh my god, this is the same man. A group of women discover they've all dated the same prolific con artist.

I thought how could this happen to me?

The cops didn't seem to care. So they take matters into their own hands. They said, oh hell no. I vowed I will be his last target. He's going to get what he deserves.

Listen to the girlfriends. Trust me, babe. On the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you remember when Diana Ross

double tap little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Oh, when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking.

“What the hell does George Bush got to do a little Kim?”

Well, you can find out on the look back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a hair, a pack what went down, and try to make sense of how he survived it.

Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the eights. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack all day, but yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have eggs on the table right now, so. Why are you finishing that sentence?

Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really, yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people

in American history. Listen to look back at it on the iHeart Radio app.

“Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.”

In 2000, James Davis ran against the powerful Brooklyn political boss Clarence Norman Jr. a second time. The clearance learned his lesson. This time, he made sure he reached out to the Orthodox community, so they were back in.

He was then arguing that I was joined too much for the Orthodox community. This time, he made sure he reached out to the Orthodox community, so they were back in. He was then arguing that I was joined too much for the Orthodox community. To then I counted with flyers that he had given out two years earlier.

So we kind of caught him with his falsehoods. In Norman saw that the very thing that it helped establish James Davis's profile has stopped the violence marches. Might be a vulnerability too. For his march, he raised hundreds of thousands of dollars.

And I said, well, he doesn't cross a hundred thousand dollars to march up no tsunami. Where's the money? You know, this is not to denigrate someone who cannot now speak for himself, but the facts are the facts.

We didn't really get any money from the not for profit. Jeffrey Davis. You know, maybe a donation here. There's nothing here. My grandmother owned about four or five houses.

Two brown stoves at Benford Stuyves. We had a house in Long Island. We had a house in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. House in Savannah, Georgia. They said, we're the money come from.

That's where the money came from. Family. Clarence beat James in the Democratic primary. But on the day of the general election, James is on the ballot as the candidate for the smaller liberal party.

This, it turns out, is against the rules of the NYPD. But James didn't know that.

He'd never gotten to the general election before.

James and his friend on the NYPD Lloyd Piper'sburg, were both now teaching at the police academy. And I come into work one day. And a sergeant says to the Lloyd, you know what happened to your friend, right?

It's going to fire. You mean James? He goes here. He got fired today. He's in the locker room right now.

I opened the door. And there's James. And I say, "James, you're right." He goes, "Yeah, I'm finally." And I said, "This room looks going around.

Because that was fire. He was fire." He was absolutely unbothered. Believe the station together and go sit in the pizza place around the corner. Piper asks him, "Why he was suddenly offset from the NYPD?" He said, "Nam, please."

You know, this song rules that you cannot accept the nomination of a political party while you're a cop. But some people suspected that it wasn't just James's political ambitions that turned the NYPD against him. Michael Cooper is a reporter for the New York Times.

I was covering cops for the paper. And there were not a lot of police officers who were willing to talk to the press. And he stood out by being fairly outspoken.

“Like I remember covering a controversial police shooting.”

And it was hard to find out what had happened. And Officer James Davis was like a voice who would publicly raise questions about his fellow officer who had pulled a trigger and ended up thinking that most police officers wouldn't engage in. Police seeing was going to be Julianne's baby

and the rules were thrown out.

And people who had anything to say within the department against that

“would be investigated, would be pulled up on charges.”

You know, they would try to terminate you with discipline. You're almost there. James sued the NYPD. His lawyer, Harry Crasky, felt something else was a plan. We did presented as a political hit.

James was fired by the NYPD because he challenged some Lehman clearance Norman and Norman just as an influence to get James fired. Yes. Yes, he definitely did that.

Jeffrey Davis. And Brooklyn politics, they go after your job. You know, clowns' numbers now only are bowel assistants in attorney. They're highly intelligent, man. Pull some strings to say, wait a minute, his name was in a booth.

And then the police said, "That's illegal."

And then they came and took a job from him. Yes, it turns out that you can't be a cop and have an established party nomination at the same time. Who knew? He certainly didn't know.

And he tried to figure the whole thing out. It led to him being fired, but then getting reinstated. In fact, getting a bunch of money along the way,

“which I remember him telling me that basically was going to be”

his financial base for his next run for office. The next time Jamesy Davis runs for office, things are changing in New York City. New rules certainly up in the reign of these long-term incumbents, opening the door for fresh blood like James.

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