I'm Bailey Taylor, and this is Icarol.
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As a woman in the industry, you're always underestimated.
“So you have to work extra hard in a way that doesn't compromise who you are in your integrity.”
You know, I like to say I was kind of like a silent ninja. Listen to It Girl with Bailey Taylor on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Ruthie's table four, presented by Sky. So we think as you were going back and reading the finished galley of the book, I mean, was there anything that you learned that surprised you?
Well, I think what I've learned from the book and from talking and the transcripts is that so many of the guests talked about their grandmothers cooking almost more than their mothers. And I think that was particularly true of people who came here as immigrants,
and I always say that the mother adapted her cooking to the countries she's in,
the culture that she's in, the child, totally rejects very often, the cooking of the country they left, but the grandmother keeps it with her, and that she's there to cook it for the mother, her daughter, her daughter-in-law, who remembers and might want to, and the children who actually then up because they love their grandmother and has that food.
“So I think that something that really was moving to me, Steve McQueen, talked about going to the”
market with his grandmother, what that meant, the kind of introduction of different vegetables that he'd never really had. And I think that the other very moving part for me was how many people came in with their own cookbooks that had been written for them by their mother or their grandfather, or their father,
they wanted to take their history of their family with them when they went into the world.
So if they were at university they could make a soup or pasta that they'd had at home in someone's home. And so they bought Kristen Scott Thomas and Tom Holland, or there's a photograph of Tom and I looking at one of his books of the recipes that they've had 50 years later, you know, both their parents had passed, whether grandparents had passed, but the cookbook was with them. The last one I want to ask you about Ruthie is tradition,
which sounds like a very kind of milk to a generic term, but actually when it comes to grudd a girl wig and no up-on-back to her close friends, tradition is actually a time of the week.
“It's an event. What is it? I think, you know, and I say, you know, in an uncertain world,”
there are certain things we want, a certainty. And I'd went through it with Richard's family that you just knew that every Sunday lunch you'd have with family, either your mother and all your other or your sisters and brothers is Sunday lunch, was something. And Jewish religion, you have the Friday night supper, don't you? You have the Shabbat meal, and I think Ramadan. So I think there is a kind of tradition, very often, in families, immigrant families,
to do with your heritage, you know, with Greta and Noah, I met them before they came to London, but Greta came here to work on Barbie, and then Noah made a film. They were, they brought their two children, they lived in Richmond, so they were near the River Cafe. And so the easiest time for everyone who was working was to try and have Sunday lunch. We did it about, again, about two or three times in a row, we just said, you know, we have a lunch on Sunday,
we check it on Wednesday, who's coming, what are we doing? I said, maybe this is becoming a tradition, and Harold, the little boy, who's about five, said, oh, this is what tradition is. Okay, this is what tradition means, and we said, yeah, that is what tradition means. So we just ended up calling a tradition, are we meeting a 12 o'clock tradition or we meeting a two for tradition, which is became the word for Sunday lunch? I was thinking about
that Raymond Carver book, what we talk about when we talk about the death. And the same could be set of food, what we talk about when we talk about food, and I think the answer as this book proves is kind of everything. Yeah, I think maybe it food is everything. Ruthie's table four is proud to support leukemia UK. The cartwheel for a cure campaign raises funds for vital research, and more effective and kinder treatments for acute maloid leukemia.
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Culture right now.
the pressure, the expectations, and the real work behind it all. As a woman in the industry,
“you're always underestimated. So you have to work extra hard in a way that doesn't compromise”
who you are in your integrity. You know, I like to say I was kind of like a silent ninja.
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