"Kareem Rahma"

- Hello, listener.

My name is Jason, I am one third of the machine

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Anyway, let's get back to things. By the way, what do you guys think of my shirt? - I do notice you're wearing a NASA hat today, are you feeling excited about the Artemis? - Yeah, Artemis too.

- Isn't that wild? - Yeah. - Let's talk about that. - Why is everybody freaking out about that? - Because we're going like traveling to Mars?

- It was, no. - Well, but like we did the moon loop, did the moon landing. - Yeah. - 60, nine, something like that. - Yeah, 60, nine, yeah.

- If they're not even landing on the moon, they're just going to kind of do a little bit. - They're precise. - They're precise. - But I just like, why is everyone like that?

“- Oh God, no, I think it's amazing what they're doing.”

They're not feeling it by the way. I'm just wondering, like, help me understand. - Yeah, no, well, because it's the farthest anybody's been ever, is that right? Or I think so, I think it's the farthest humans from Earth.

- From Earth, yeah. - Because we're traveling around the back side of it, it's opposed to landing on the front of it. - That's right. - That's right, yeah. - Well, that seems like they're reaching for a record there.

You know? - I mean, that's like not going to Jason's house, but just stopping at Wilson. - Yeah, I mean, I just don't know if that's the thing. - You feel, it feels like the equivalent of Oscar Bay.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, what have they did? What have they had about this? What have they do at one loop, right?

- Yeah, yeah, I mean, the qualified for first.

And then as when they come back around, fucking land the thing. Like, yeah, I think, but drive the buggy around again and hit another golf shot. - I'm gonna be really sensational.

- I'm gonna try to get you a knee-mail address so you can send this in, I'm sure they're there. - They're looking for ideas over there, of course. - Wait, Jay, but I think the idea is to collect more information so that the next one they can land on the moon.

“Like, again, I think, what about if they put,”

like, build like a little tree house on it or something. - Well, I think they're talking about that. - Yeah, they're talking about colonizing a little tiny thing. So that you can launch from there to Mars. - Would you ever do one of these rocks?

- Absolutely. - Like, what's his face that the Amazon did? - Jay Bezos. - Right, he sent some people up, would you ever do that? - I would, yeah.

- Really? - Yeah, absolutely. - Wouldn't you? - Willy? - I think I probably wouldn't. - Would we also, like, a day before and go, will hang on?

- I wouldn't pay for it. I'd never pay for it. - Right. - Yeah, well, nobody paid for it. Did those people pay for it?

- Only in-- - No, no, no, the Bezos ones, yeah. - Only in dignity. - No, the Bezos people, they pay, yeah, yeah, yeah. - That's, it's, like, 250 grand or some shit to go. - Really? - Oh, my God.

- Yeah, that's crazy, man. - You know, you can go up and, like, leave the atmosphere and come back down.

“- Yeah, to feel weightlessness, wouldn't that be fun?”

- To feel, you know, like, - What love to get Neil to grasp Tyson back on, just to find out why that week. - That answer he was forming for me. - Yeah.

- And then, I think it's all, I think it's all pretty cool. - I think it's all. - I mean, I'm not obsessed with it, but I think it's pretty damn cool. - Yeah.

It's some toilet problems on the Iron Institute. Did you read that? - Yeah. - Yes. - Yeah.

- I had a toilet problem this morning, and let me take you with us. - Jason, you know, we still asked Jason,

you could never go, because they don't have a child.

- I'm just telling it, because they don't have a shower next to the toilet up there, so you never be able to do that. - You can't shower immediately after being in the bathroom. - No.

- Well, I'm out. - Yeah, of course. - I gotta feel fresh, you got, as I explore the universe. - Can you use a flushable wipe up there since there's no flushing?

- I bet, I bet. - Man, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - Wait, you know what else? - Though, but I've been watching that documentary, the Bobless Art S4 thing.

- No one said I like a new documentary. - Yeah, so you got to see Bobless Art, you know, Bobless Art, who worked at Area 51, and has been talking about it for decades. - We got it.

- And nobody believes him, and he's like, he has drawings, he has memories, it's fascinating, and he, he's, - What's he, it's called? - Nevermind, we look up at it.

- That's good.

- That's, oh, go ahead, sorry.

- No, keep going, I'm sorry, I'm so wrong to you. - So, yeah, so, so, he went into, he, he, he, he, he, he, I know I'm hurrying, he went into, he used to work there, and there was this long thinger of like,

of different sections with different parts of A.L.A. - Please, scale it with spacecraft. - I like, I mean, I'm sweating, I'm sweating, literally sweating. - So there's a long thinger.

- Yeah, I know there's a hanger with different sections, and each section has different parts of A.L.A. in spacecraft that they've collected over the years. - Yeah, that's, yeah, that, that doc we were talking about, I don't know if we were talking about it,

on the podcast or or away, but the age of disclosure, you know James Clapper and John Brennan, they're talking about, like, that's true. - Yeah, we have been doing crash site recovery

for years ever, and Bob was always talking about it

way before they have. - And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and I said, well, to myself self, why don't we know about all this in a much more mainstream way, and the answer is, is simply, it would be too unsettling and disruptive to society,

like, I think now it's totally coming,

“I think now it's totally coming out because, I think we can handle it now.”

- Do you think we're helping by having like little conversations like this, I'm a cat so- - Absolutely. - This is how this is happening, major impact, conditioning the public's, this is helping turn the time for it. - Or not for us holding their hand in something unsettling.

- People would be shocked, yes, yes. - Us just having this sort of really loose anecdotal conversation, we can't even remember the names of the goddamn documentary is having a real effect. - And not even know that mission of Artemis, too.

- Yeah, yeah, exactly. - Well, you know, listen, this is just all good stuff. So I'll go to the segue, I think this fella might have a nice perspective for us on this now. This is, today, it brings us a voice of the current,

the relevant, the forward, and the fresh, okay? This comedian, artist, and media entrepreneur was born in Egypt, lives in New York. Spends his time delivering us one of the most viewed and talked about online interview shows around.

His work is gathered billions of views. A chieved acclaim from New York Times, GQ, New Yorker, Vanity Fair, as well as receiving multiple Webby nominations. Please welcome not a fancy schmancy triple a-list celebrity type,

you, too. No, no, this is a man of the people, a voice of the happening, a guy with some helpful hot takes, the host of Subway takes, Mr. Karim Rama, please, hello. - Aliens are real.

- That is out there.

“- Right, do you think there's a chance this is a real thing?”

- That we're going to the moon? - No, that we're gonna, we're gonna do a laugh. That part's true, we're in Midland right now. - No, I mean, that, like, we're the rockets even in the space, who knows if it's even in space.

- Oh, let's go to the right there. - What do you mean, we're, Karim, what are you saying? Are you saying that? - Do you think that maybe we filmed the landing on the moon in a sound stage?

- I look, I am not a scientist, but I saw that the curve of the rocket, like when it was going in space, kind of looks like it's not going up, it's going into the ocean. - I'm just saying, I saw one video about this. - If the art continued, it's gonna plummet.

- No, it's just gonna go into the ocean. - No, no, it's short. I short social media video is all I need. (laughing) - I think that arc is to offset the rotation of the earth.

And it's actually, it looks like it's going straight up, but it's not. - It's going into the curve as we are. - But the earth is flat, so that makes no sense. - Oh, okay, thank you for joining us.

(laughing) - I'll see you guys there. No, I don't believe it, disclaimer. I don't believe any of that. I believe in the real world is round.

You don't think there's any possibility that there is life outside earth or sort of intelligent beings, and that perhaps they may have crashed on this earth a couple of times

and that the government is aware. - No, I fully believe that. I had extra terrestrial experiences. I'm surprised that none of you guys have. - Welcome back to our episode.

(laughing)

“- No, you guys haven't had extra terrestrial experiences?”

- Yeah, but we, you know, no comment,

let's hear, tell us yours first.

- Yeah, you're the first. - Yeah. - Now, see now it sounds fake, but I saw it in Alien in the bushes. But I was a kid, like probably like 12,

and I just saw it, and then it just looked at me and I said the word zone, Z-O-N-E, and then I kind of just like said that a couple of times and then I just ran away. - Was it the classic almond shaped eye

and head, tear drop head kind of thing? - It was similar to that, but not as exaggerated. It was more like it looked like it just kind of looks like a weird looking, it was a weird looking guy.

- Yeah, it was a small weird looking guy,

but he was kind of green and big huge eyes. I mean, it looked like an Alien that you think. - And when he said that, do you feel like he was telling you, like, get in the zone, like lock in?

- Like he was an encouragement, like head. - Yeah, get in the zone. - He's got his study harder in school, and yeah. - Now, all right, so then all I have to think aside and all that, would you be surprised

if there was a mainstream declaration from the government that we can confirm that this is more than a possibility and kind of getting ready for this multi-year kind of trickle rollout information

to really make this legitimate and substantial, like they're here. - I think the impact on society, I think it would destroy society. I think more so than anything else,

because I think religion, like, - Yeah, no, it would be humble. - Science would be gone, yeah. - But, but, like, what about what, somebody said last night that, you know,

there's a, what if there's a possibility, let's say, that there's a group of wise men, they're in the government that is trying to figure out the best responsible way in which to condition the public to this inevitable reveal.

And that, you know, Steven Spielberg's next movie, it's coming out this end of this year, is called Disclosure. Like it's going to be an enormous film, and it is about from what I can gather from the trailer,

the public finally being told.

- It's probably funded by the CIA. - Well, I'm not even kidding. - And, and I'm saying, maybe this group was, they, they pulled Spielberg in and said, hey, listen, could you help us out with,

could you cover the pop culture end of this? And just start to, - We need, we need you to feed, give the, give the problem to the people so that they can kind of,

they're not so ambushed when it comes out in itself.

“- I think people, no matter what the news is,”

they'll just keep scrolling. - I mean, there could be aliens among us right now, they'll just keep scrolling. - I think that's the condition, you know. - But you know, it's going to,

it won't charge them out of it, and they'll think, no, that's about real. - I don't think so. - No, I think people will like seek out alien porn, and like, they'll do like,

they'll be more, porn is always on the cutting edge of everything. There was, there was first on everything. I mean, even engagement with, you know, ghost and stuff. It's always porn.

- Is this all, it porn's always first,

but I think that this movie is probably crazy timing, and like, and the, and the launch. Like, I do think the CIA's, I sound so insane. I probably sound like the most insane guest you ever had. - No, no, no, no, okay, good, I'll take it.

- Okay, thank you, we have an air dose, but, but I think that the CIA has been known to use like movies to like promote like, "Oh, we're going to war." - Yeah.

- The Middle East, yeah. - By the way, they would always do, you know, the government would make film, they would decide what kinds of films should be made, - Yeah, probably because they don't leave words.

- Yeah, and to sort of, you know, garner support and get people list people's spirits and get them feeling patriotic, and that's not new. - All right, so, um, Mr. Where, where, where, where, where to begin.

- Where to begin? - I mean, we just, yeah. (laughing) - What can I say to the number?

“- We've got, we've got, we've got, how do we claw back?”

- You're, let, let, start, start us, take us walk us towards, you know, you're now sort of this, you know, one of these forward voices and pop culture today. How did it all kind of start, did you used it?

Was this a goal, like, you started in Minneapolis? - Mm-hmm. - Mm-hmm. - You got a journalism degree, maybe? - Mm-hmm.

- And then, uh, business degree? - Yeah, that was a failure, I didn't think that was that. - Um, and then you travel out to New York and pursuit of... - Just not living in the small town.

It was really a classic, and it was kind of like a, like, let me go out east and like strike it, like strike gold in the same way that, you know, there's a Silicon Valley rush in the gold rush. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna go to New York,

I'm gonna get rich and famous, and that was a long time, that was 15 years ago. So, any industry you had focused on, or is just like that town has a lot of different ones, we'll see what hits.

- At the time, I was very much into, like, entrepreneurship in this, like, the social network had just come out. - Yeah. - That's like, that's, like, that was cool.

“Remember for a while, that was really cool.”

It was really cool to be like a tech founder. - Right. - And I was like, oh, that's the way you do it. And all these young people were like making so much money. And I was like, oh, I think I should be a tech guy.

your insight, your savviness, and see

where the two could intersect. - Yeah. - But really the old goal was to strike it, rich. - Yeah, it was definitely in pursuit of, yeah, yeah. - I was like, I was like, let me, let me, let me.

- And it's the, and I did the opposite. I did the exact opposite, 'cause I got a job at vice. - Yeah. - And vice pays you, it's like, they get three, they get a three-for-one deal. So they get like three, 25-year-old kids.

- The pay when they pay. - The pay when they pay. - Is that where you're gonna say? - They do, they actually do, at least holiday bonuses. - Sure, I paid the cut. - I remember Christmas, it was like, here's a bag of blow.

And I was like, oh, this is so cool. - Yeah, this is so cool.

“- Interesting, but I, could I pay my rent with blow?”

- So you're at vice and you're doing marketing stuff with that, maybe, yeah? - Yeah, I'm doing like content development and marketing and kind of like launching new shows.

And I was never the talent, but I wanted to be the talent.

- Were you working with, with like Shane and Eddie and all those guys? - Yeah, and at the time, it was like 75 people. So we were all in the same room. - Yeah. - And I was listening to them on the phone.

And I'm like, well, this is so cool. Like it really was like getting, that was a real MBA in business 'cause I'm like sitting in this room with Shane and Eddie and, and Saru, and all these guys are like listening to those shows.

- He's awesome, he's such a good guy. Like I just saw him the other day. - He's a greatest guy, he's so cool. - He's so cool. - Well, from a marketing standpoint and also a content thing,

that was such an exciting company and hearing about it, seeing a coming and getting on board and kind of following it was, you guys did a great job at that. - It was really cool. It was really cool.

And I felt like we were doing something like it was like, and Spike was around a bunch there too, wasn't he? - Yeah, he was like the executive creative director, which meant that you just got to say that. And he would hang out, like you just said,

that which is like, that's such a cool job to him. - David Cross was kicking around a little bit too. - That was early, that was early days. - I think that was earlier, yeah. - No, I was there in 2012.

- Yeah. - And then, and from there you go to the New York Times? - Yes. - Yeah, yeah. - And for them, you did well. - Let's go, I bet.

The same thing, a lot less Coke, a lot less Coke.

“- Yeah. - It was kind of like, that's why I quit.”

- Of course not. - The Times was like, we just paid money, and I was like, yeah, and you're like, wow. - Money can't buy Coke. - It's Christmas, and I haven't seen my low yet.

And I'm not performing this year. - You're mailing the editing sheet. I'm like, hey, dude, I'm gonna quit unless I get like a little bonus here. - So what were you doing for what you did for New York Times?

- I was doing the same thing. I like helped start Times video which now makes film and television, and kind of the podcasting, and all that stuff. So I was like laying the groundwork for all that.

And it was really cool, but then I did. So this is like, I think I was like in New York for like maybe seven or eight years, and at that point, I was like, okay, I know enough people, I have enough information and knowledge,

and like maybe some access to money that I can actually go start my thing, like my media, by my own media company. And that was a massive failure, but I did do that

“for a couple. - Well, what was that first swing in this?”

- It was, well, there was like a couple in a row, but it was, it was a long and bad. - There was a, yeah, it was, there was like, it was three strikes, those three strikes, and then I was out, and that's when I was like,

maybe I'm not so good at being like a CEO or an entrepreneur and maybe I should just be like, do what I'm good at, which it seems like hanging out, like I'm really good at hanging out, and like, you know, podcasting,

just really, you guys are just hanging out guys. - Yeah, I'm just hanging out with Kevin Converson. - So we're hanging out kid, for sure. - Yeah, so, so like maybe I should try my hand at that, but the first swing in a mess was something called NYC.tv,

and the idea was to do public access television on the internet, which I was like, that's in clever little something something, and it just didn't work, and then I shifted that into something called Nameless Network,

which was like, do you remember like now this news, like these, they kind of like made like thousands of viral videos every month that would be like, this guy is selling Yams in Japan on a street corner dressed as a cat.

You never saw like videos, (laughs)

- No, no. - They were like short, like two minute videos, and it would just be like big text on a screen, and it would be like, this school in Turkey is offering free haircuts to young people.

- So just like, I mean, real it could be like grabbers. - Yeah, I mean, stuff that's really maddering people. Yams in Japan, here in Turkey, I mean, and you're told me that this did not take off. (laughs)

- And we will be right back. And now back to the show. - So then, a few swings and misses,

and a microphone, get in front of it, and start doing what comes natural,

“which is just kind of being a man of the people”

and see what comes. So yeah, what was that first thing that kind of grabbed in the, you could feel the momentum moving and this may be working? - The first big hit was a show that I created.

And this is a time when there was like no shows, like there was no short form, unscripted, vertical video shows. And I say that, and it was just like, everyone was making content, but there was no show in this thing, right?

And I, but I decided to make a show, and I was like, why isn't there just a TV show that's distributed on TikTok and Instagram? And it was called Keep The Meater Running. And it was this concept where I would hail a cab

and just tell the driver to take me wherever they want.

And it was always in Saint,

like it would just be so crazy, like one time I, - So the taxi driver has it flipped on him or her, where they're not being told where to go by the person in the back, but you get to take me, the passenger, wherever you driver want to go.

And just keep the meter running and tell me about why you like this place. - Yeah, yeah, I would just go, take me to every place and keep the meter running. And I would end up like one time I ended up

“like in New Jersey on a helicopter with this guy from Morocco.”

And he was literally just, can then drive and drive and really. - Yeah, well, yeah. - But yeah, he had a pint of Malibu, which I thought was interesting choice. - That isn't the right choice, that's the right thought.

- That's right. (laughing) - So you do that, so you do the keep the meter running for a while. - Yeah, like 20 episodes. - And still, I had to go, yeah.

- Yes, and now we're still running on this. - The meter? - Well, I had to stop 'cause at the time,

it was my first thing, and I was a massive failure.

Remember, and I had no money. And those episodes were obviously when you tell a guy keep the meter running and he goes, let's go on a helicopter ride in New Jersey. By the end of the day, you spent literally $2,000.

- That's right, right. - And so I could only do, I spent all of my money. And then I was like, I have to put this on pause. And then I was like, and now it's back, except bigger, and now it's like YouTube,

it's like 20 minute episodes. - That's right. - It's crazy.

“- Well, I'm so surprised, how do you get them to,”

'cause I know a lot of cab drivers that I went out with the cabs I get. - Oh, do you show them? - You know a lot of cabs. - No, they-- (laughing)

- They don't want to talk. - What? - Yeah, they don't want to talk. - They don't want to talk. - They don't want to talk.

- They don't want to talk. - They just don't want to talk. - They just don't want to talk. - All right. - Sean, what do you mean?

- Well, maybe I don't. - Maybe I don't. - They're usually on the phone and they want to just keep their conversation going on the phone. - I just assume they want that.

I just assume they don't want to talk. - Oh, they love, you can't tell them to stop talking. - Talk to you when you get that. - Camera going, right? - They hang on.

- Yeah. - It just maybe just bring up like, just be like so. How about, you know, like, politics. - No, I'm just figuring that that's a real hot topic.

- So what was the first sign that people were watching, keep the meter running? How did you find out? - Legitimately the next day. So like, I posted the video and I turned my phone off

because I was like another failure. I was conditioned to just fail at that point. I was like, what did you throw it up on? - I put it on TikTok and Instagram. - Okay.

Of which you had already some followers. Just not and lot, like, 30,000, you know. - And so enough to like, - Yeah, for them to then send it out to their folks and that's how viral happens, right?

- But they'll hang on a second. (laughing) Walk us through, baby. - Granddad, it's just, we're done. - Oh, yeah, that's his closer.

- It's such a great idea. So you put it up and you turn off your phone, you turn on your phone later that night. - Well, I go to the Bodega the next morning and at this point, I just turned my phone back on,

but I didn't log, like, I didn't open that. I went to the Bodega and the guy goes, "Oh, you look so familiar." And I go, I don't know, I'm a loser.

I've been here a million times.

- I'm like, I have literally been here. I look familiar 'cause I see you every day. - Right. - And he goes, "No, you look so familiar." And then he goes, "Taxi, you're the taxi guy.

You did this show." And I was like, "What?" And I opened my phone and it has like two million views. - No, right. - And in a night.

- Yeah, and so many like thousands of comments and I was like, holy shit, it actually worked. And it felt like that moment where I was like, yeah, I did something that for the first time ever. People responded to it and it was doing exactly

what I thought I could do well, which is hang out. And I was like, "Oh my God, maybe I'm finally found my thing." - Yeah, yeah. - You know, I called my mom, I was like, I know what I'm gonna do for a living.

I'm just gonna hang out with other people. - So you immediately tried to double down,

- But for our first, right?

- But for our first, right? (laughing) - This is gonna pan out. - That's so bad. - What year now, the new episode,

“the new season is premiering soon, it's the 19th, right?”

- May 13th, what is it? - May 13th, may 13th, I think that's in, I think this is the 11th today, I think it's two days. So what season is that? - This is like the first official season of,

I'm bringing my thesis of making television and putting it on YouTube, but like, it's not a YouTube show because it is television, quality production and television storytelling. And like, we have, you know,

I went to like the Russian Turkish bathhouse with a guy named Eugene and his friend or daughter. - He won't give us that later. We'll get him that later, let's talk about the show. - Yeah, this is the show.

- Oh, oh, oh, sorry. (laughing) - And you know, do that, I'm producing, I produced a play for an Irish cab driver named Irish John. That's not his name, but you know, I call him that.

And he goes, I have a one-man show. And I go, what's this all about? So he takes me to his basement, he shows me this one-man show. I go, cool, let's put it in a theater. So, you know, performing in front of 300 people,

also produce looks like a stand-up special. And, you know, go fishing with a Korean guy named Young in Bear Mountain and sketch. It's really remarkable and the whole kind of through line of the show is like, how to be a better man.

Like how to be a better brother, how to be a better father. - I love that. - I love that. - It's all, 'cause these guys have like the secret to the universe.

In, you know, like you're driving for 12 hours a day,

“your life is hard, your sending money home,”

or you're just supporting your family. And they like have this fatherly wisdom. I don't know if you guys lost your father early. I lost my one-ounce 20. And I started like having these convos with these

cab drivers because I felt like they had some advice for me, you know, and I didn't have Will's number yet. - It's not gonna call him. (laughing) - I couldn't call him for advice.

- So I didn't lose his dad, he's dead, got lost. So, that's really remarkable man. - That's really cool. - And then, so then tell us about, since then subway takes happens, you feel, you get an idea

for that and you figure you can do it at the same time, simultaneously. - Well, I had run out of the money because the other show was costing like $2,000 per episode. And so I was like, okay, this whole like short form

unscripted thing is like really working for me. What's like another version of that, which is less expensive. And again, sorry, sorry, let me just have you for one second. Educate me in our listener.

This might be fascinating, it certainly would be to me. How do you run out of money doing that show because I guess the question is, how do you monetize a show like that? So you put it up on Instagram and TikTok.

“How are you even thinking you could get paid for that?”

How does a creator get paid for that? Can you advertise against those little shows? - Well, I think I made you, he sees your first episode.

It's got two million views overnight.

Are you seeing that in real time in dollars coming to you? - No, I'm seeing zero dollars. That's right, that's a good question. - How would you even hope to monetize that? How would you get paid for that?

- You would want a brand to essentially say, I love what you're doing, hey, do you want to pay? In every episode, do you want to use your Chase debit card or credit card to pay for the cabby's product? Or do you want to communicate using what's app exclusively

with their families and different people? So you'd want someone to underwrite the series. And the same way that a streamer or production company or a network would underwrite, it's a brand-funded entertainment.

- It's so like, you were pursuing that and getting no buy. So you just didn't know to do that yet. - I didn't know to do that yet and I also was like so overwhelmed and just kind of, I was in panic mode.

Like I don't know to do this, you know?

And actually the first thing I did was like,

I was like, okay, maybe this should be a TV show. Instead, and like I should get money from someone in Hollywood, and but that whole rigour roll, I went on like a wild goose chase with that. - Yeah, I was like taking care of this.

- Yeah, it was taking too long. And in the meantime, I was like, let me start another thing while this is baking in the TV world. Let me start another thing to kind of like continue my life.

- Well, what made you think that second thing would be something that you'd be able to monetize and get money out of? - I didn't really think about that either. It was really boring, I was like,

- I'm not really noticing a trend here. - Yeah, this is, you thought, I'm not making any money with the thing, this thing's cost me money. What I should do is introduce Jason Bateman

on the subway holding a metricard instead

- It worked, I'm here. - It did.

- So I loved JBL, I loved your episode, I thought,

- Oh man, I did too, what a fun time I had. If you guys have not seen something, it takes. - And I haven't seen, keep the meter running yet. I can't wait to watch that make too. - I need to tell you guys on there.

- Tell people what subway takes what the concept of that is. - So subway takes is essentially like a two minute talk show on the train where I interview like local stand-up comedians, regular comedians, musicians, writers, directors,

like all anyone who I find kind of interesting and also like people like Jason Bateman. - Right, so then you, and then you had Jason. - Yeah, we let it out today. - It must have, you can't appreciate the big ones

unless you get a couple of, you know. - I found him kind of intro. I was just like, he's kind of, - Yes. - He's working with him.

- Yeah, interesting. - No, I'm curious about the details of, - No, but the camera's up with JB. - Well, okay, concept, but I really wanna know what station do you guys get in, yeah, what did you guys do?

What train were you on, and what did you get inside? - Yes, we were in Chinatown on the F train at East Broadway. - Wow. - Yes, I remember when I had David Boyle, my entire body after that.

- And Jason, you, I mean, what would Jason, the look on your driver's face when you said, "Take me there, what was he?" - He said, "Tit, let you out here." I said, "No, no, no, hang on.

Just keep the door closed for a minute." (laughing) - Jason, Jason brought an extra pair of pants and an extra shirt. - So it's in place.

- He called him it on. - He called it his train clothes.

“- That's what he called his train clothes.”

- And he was wearing white latex gloves. - That's why he was wearing it. - Why are you wearing those? - It sounds right. - I love the train.

- I'm so messed up. - I'm so messed up. - So you go, you decide, all right. - So but the concept is listener, is that he has somebody come on

and just give one hot take on something. - Right. - And Karim decides whether he's 100% on board with that or in opposition to that. For instance, my dumb ass hot take was,

I think all dogs should wear shoes. - 100%. - He 100% agreed, but then the interview is, well why do you agree and why do I think

they're basically, you know,

I just think, you know, that's the job. - Yeah, you know, you don't want them to walk into your place and track in all the poo. They like to walk around in. - Yeah.

- So anyway, but so that's kind of the concept. And it's a two minute concept, and it's pleasurable and we're popping around the city. - You think dogs, if dogs go to a play, they should go backstage.

- Yeah. (laughing) - It's you, the artist, sorry, we did that later. - Yeah, but Karim, can we do a hot take to you because I just thought of this when you popped on

about that show and I was like, doing Broadway shows,

“you know those Rick Shaws that are super fucking loud?”

- Yeah. - At night? - Yeah. - Like shouldn't there be a law against the sound of those hot dogs on the ceiling?

- 100% agreed. - Yeah, there's too much noise pollution in here. - Sure, and is this our segment called Old Man Gripes? (laughing) What are we doing?

- Yeah. - I mean, those damn kids slowed down in the neighborhood. (laughing) - That'll be good. - That'll be good.

- Yeah, damn loud. - Here's so synonymous with New York. I just thought, you know, what do you think about? Like, because I don't have, I don't have any skin in the game with my mdani.

Like, I don't know if he's good or bad or anything. I don't live, you know, I'm just here part time working. But somebody complained that it's because of my mdani that there's no banks weren't clear. I'm like, there's no.

When there's a blizzard, there's never,

you can't clear all this now. - Yeah, what do you want to put it? - Yeah. - Well, you got to blubbing the mayor of New York as a workshop in America.

- Yeah. - 'Cause everyone just mad at you no matter what you do. - Right, for sure. - For sure. - It's a historical, big L, I would never do it.

Although I might have you ever had somebody that-- - Uh-oh. - Have you ever had something? - Talk about breaking, playin'. (laughing)

- I would only do it as a joke and then I would accidentally win, like, you know, who are boys. - Yeah. - I'm like, whoops, he is, I'm the mayor now. - Just trying to sell back.

(laughing) - What, as anybody come on and not had a take and then you had to say, all right, well, I'll do one. - Well, since you go through the vetting process, Jason. - Yes.

- Yeah, yeah, I was, I was given a heads up and, but, you know, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a professional. I came professional. - Right, I came professional. - But you have some of these people come on

and just like, yeah, I couldn't think of anything. - And then you had Jason Bateman had any other ones that we didn't use. - Yeah, did I? - Oh, did I pitch you some?

- I don't know, let me check my email. So, they go to someone on my team. - Yeah. - And then, and then I don't, there's, like, somebody approves that they're good.

- Right. - And, and then like, just some Gen Z kid? - Yeah, pretty literally, literally, young, young, young, young lads.

“- Which, well, what's the last one you disagreed with?”

- Oh, dude, I don't know. - Yeah, I don't know. - I don't know. - What are you doing one week?

- No, what? - I post one a day, yeah, it's my skill. - So then you're doing one a day to keep up with me. - Well, I play. - No, I batshoot, I shoot, I'll shoot, like, 10 in one day.

And it's really a miserable day. It's an awful day. I'm like a real, I'm like a real working, you know, blue color guy, I'm under ground all day. - Yeah.

- I'm sweating, or it's cold, or it's hot, or the train's not working, or somebody's trying to stab me or walk around. - Yeah, it's cool. - Don't you find that am I just an introvert?

Or the lunch bell guy over here? - Am I just an introvert that needs to refill my talk tank? A lot, or it is everybody go through sort of, like a social exhaustion, like me sometimes. Like, how do you, how do you not run out of being,

you know, a chatty by doing 10 episodes in a day? How do you keep it going like that? - Well, it's interesting, it's interesting.

- Well, I've got a thought on this, which is always,

you know, when you go and you do interviews and stuff

“who are doing what we do and you have to go and talk shows.”

And when I realize that I don't have stuff to talk about, it's 'cause I haven't been out in the world. And so a lot of people we know, including us, or whatever, spend these times in this world, and we're not out in bubbles,

and you're not engaged in a real way, and about 50 years ago stories for you. I would say, like, I kinda like, I wanna experience life and that's why I'm always on the move and doing something I swear to God.

I know how boring that's in breaks. So you're out there walking around, you fucking hands tucked in your pockets, just like, you're squatting around your own hands. - One hand, how about you have a fight

just like you're smoking it all in? Hey, good morning, man, how are you doing? Have a good day, huh? - No, I'm serious, I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm more down to earth or anything.

What I'm saying is that I realize that you have to get

out there, Sean and I have talked about this, a number of times, and Jason, you're a lost cause, 'cause you're at home or in the golf course, and so like, that's okay. - How the fuck would you have anything to talk about?

- I could fill you in on what MSNLs, new pro. - And MSNLs, that's true, sorry. - No, but it is true, I think that there is something to that, right, just being engaged. I don't care who you are, just being engaged in the world.

- Having stuff to say. - I get it, yeah. - Yeah. Is that true, Karim, is that your fuel? - No, I mean, I'm having fun.

Like, I really am having a lot of fun. I have a such a fun job, both of my jobs. - You're great. - Both cab drivers, hanging out with people like you guys. Like, it is the, I'm blessed as a person.

Like, I have the best job in the world, and everything that I've done thus far has been totally independent. So I really have no notes, I have no development. - Right, right.

- I'm just doing the fun part of the job,

“which is the making of it, and that's what I do,”

and it's really amazing, and I have a lot of experience.

- How we feel, I'm in. - What would five years from now look like, if it continued on this, on this angle of success, what is your, what's your hope for where things go? With this, like, did, well, God.

- I really don't know. I mean, I'm kind of just playing a book. - Where are your tips, press? (laughing) - I'm just upgrading the train line, yeah.

- Right, condolers, yachts, you know, Leo de Caprio's yacht. I could just have a permanent spot on there. - I'm gonna be pretty good. - That could be fun. - You just talk to him for ten minutes, yeah.

- I could, yeah, that would be good. - Well, no, I talked to his wonderful guests. So I'm sure you guys have been on his yacht. - Yeah, I know. - But, like, but I imagine, I imagine, yeah,

I kind of agree with Jay what you were saying, which is like, you do have, I love that you did identify, and what you term as hanging out is actually engaging with people, and talking. - Yeah, and being curious.

“- That's what you're good at, and you're curious,”

and you do have a point of view on a lot of stuff, which is great and interesting. And so, I guess with the next, the evolution of that is taking that and going, and you talk to cab drivers and doing the thing, take me where you want to go,

then talking to people in the subway, and then would it be kind of going broader, going around the world, engaging with people in different cultures? I mean, I imagine you'd be really good at both.

- I'm focusing all of us to other parts of the world, and other cultures of people. - Yeah, that's a great idea. - We need that. - Well, but you know, they keep the meter running

feels like a board-day-nask, like people who have said this reminds me of board-day, and subway takes from, it reminds a lot of people of a talk show, like Fallen or Seth Meyers or whatever, so like, I kind of get to play in both worlds,

and that's really cool. We're doing a live show for subway takes live, which is really fun and interesting to me. - And how would that work? - People come and do what you did,

except it's like the audience is giving the takes, and then it's like a panel. It would be a score on stage, and people would walk up to a mic and say, "Oh, that's cool." - I think that's awesome, and then we would all go,

"No, you're a, you're a idiot, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah." - Had there ever been some dust ups there on the train, 'cause I remember, you know, we were just, we were riding on, we didn't have a shooting permit, or anything like that.

We were just on the train, cameras were rolling

two guys holding these weird mics and talking, and somebody might be recognizable,

“and you've ever had like a weird subway passenger,”

like, "Bother you and your guest?" - Not with anyone, like, with anyone famous,

it's been always a pleasure to see,

like Woody Harrelson was literally kind of took over the train car, and she started interviewing other people, and there were all these people, and he was just surrounded by people and just putting this mic in their faces,

and asking them questions, and really creating a circus, like in the car, and everyone loved him. - We'll be right back. All right, back to the show. - The timing of that concept and you and doing all of this

is really great, because we're at an apex of like, people wanting to connect again, and so it's probably, probably has a lot to do with that, you know. - And the lost sort of conversation too, everyone's kind of getting all their itches scratched,

just online, and with their own little devices, and in five seconds, increments. - Yeah, they're not talking to people. - Right, and that's why I always think that the 100% agree, 100% disagree,

like there's no middle for me, and it is really and kind of like an exploration of what it means to 100% disagree, but still have a funny, casual, engaging, conversation. Like I personally don't really have that many opinions.

Like I'm pretty mellow, but in the show, it's like, it's a challenge for me to be like, "Well, here's why I disagree, "but it's kind of the showcase that you can..." - Yeah, like, have fun doing this.

But there was one funny thing, it was like a regular episode that I was filming, and there was a passenger on the train filming us film, which is completely fine, like, great. This other guy in the train slapped the phone

out of that guy's hand, and then kicked it, across the car, all the way to the other side, and then that guy that got his phone slapped out of his hand, looks at me, and he's like, "I'm so sorry, dude," and I'm like, "Why?"

And he's like, "Your bouncer just kicked the phone "on in my hand," and I was like, "That's not my bouncer. "That's just a crazy guy that for some reason "decided that you shouldn't film me." And there was this confusion where everyone was kind of pointing

at each other, like, "Who's bodyguard is that?" Or like, "Do you guys know each other? "No one knew each other." It was really funny, and like, confusing, but that's the closest call.

- Did the guy who slapped it, did he ever explain his position as to why he did it? - No, he would just yell something about like, "Jesus and walked away." - Oh, that makes sense.

(laughing) - That tracks. - So, wait, but I wanted to ask Will, Will and Sean, what were your, like, if you were on the show, and I said, "What's your take?

"What would your take be?" Well, we don't Sean's, something about Rick Shows. - Oh, yeah, Rick Shows. - Oh, yeah, Rick Shows. - Yeah, yeah.

Willie, what's, what's, what's about New York?

“- Like, no, no, like, I, one of mine is that I think”

that the dancing part of the wedding is the worst part. - Like, I didn't even do it. - It should be dancing. - And my own wedding. (laughing)

- I didn't dance with my wife when I was on wedding, 'cause I hate dancing so much. - I didn't know that. I don't know that. - Is that true?

- Yeah, I, I, that's how much I, - Jason, at that moment, it's not all uncomfortable. - I'm not uncomfortable dancing. I know it, but I just, I told her early on, - That is a, a family on kind.

- I, I know, but I just, I, I, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. - I was calling a man, I'm calling a man today and I'm going to take her out dancing. - Yeah, go, go for it.

(laughing) - That's, that's, that's a hard line. Like, but I was saying, not at your own wedding, Jason, I'm saying, like, just saying that, anyway. - Like, like, it should just end a dinner.

Like, you just go have a great night, everyone. Like, thanks for coming. - I have a wedding.

- And then it's always a forced thing.

The DJs like playing like little John in the East Side Boys for like 2002 and you're like, "Dentantantantantantantantantantant." And no one wants to be there, and yeah. So that's like, or, or like, I have another one,

“which is that I think, and this one, I think,”

will be problematic, but like, I don't like street art and graffiti. And I would rather just look at like nice, beautiful buildings. - Okay.

- Yeah, yeah. - That's a good one. - But a lot of people are gonna get mad at me for that. - There's a real art. - People are great defenders of graffiti.

- Oh, yeah, yeah, street art and graffiti. - Aside from the people that actually do it, you're saying people that just observe it, are big fans of it? - I think so.

I think there's a cohort of people that think that it's like, it's nice, yeah. - I enjoy it. - Yeah, see. - I have too many, but all of mine get me in trouble.

All of mine are terrible.

First of all, I think I should be deputized

to be able to give out, just to the parking part of the police department, I'd love to give out tickets. - I would love to give out tickets. - I'd love to give out tickets, and also moving vehicle tickets.

- And I also think that we should be able to report

when like cops who do a great job, but when they pull people over and then they obstruct traffic and it's unnecessary. - Yeah, they don't need to hang out into the other lane. I mean, I guess they're doing that to protect themselves

as they're up at the wind. - Why don't you go around to the passenger window and then you don't have to... - I don't even need that on a freeway or anything. I mean, like they're on a regular street,

especially in New York, you know, you're in New Yorker. But although I, so I don't want to criticize in my pedics that do, I do. It's a rough, tough job. - But it would be nice if they deputized us to give out

maybe three citizen tickets for moving violations a month. You know, so you can't abuse it. You just get three. - Yep. - The three most egregious things you see

when you're driving, we were allowed to put the little co-jack light on on top of your car and go get them.

“- I think it would be nice if you could also get shons,”

like if Sean wanted to take it that loud Rickshaw guys. - Yeah. - He could give, like we should all be active. And it's like, why don't we?

- We all have a little bit of overtaking people anyway. We might as well be able to use it too. But then I thought about, here's the flip of it. I was thinking about this yesterday. And then I'm like, how many yellows have I squeezed

while driving through a intersection of light? - And I'm not, I'm not immune from it myself and so then I would kind of walk it back. But I have so many takes on shit. - I do.

Wait, there's two that I just don't have one is I don't know if this is a fake post in Instagram or not, but I read that New York is looking into making a law, but looking into making a law, to traffic the sidewalks, like they do the streets.

So that fast people walkers walk on the left. And which I think is really a great idea. - How do you feel? - New York is a bummer when people stop in the middle of the street and you're like, he meant, and also,

- Or people walking the floor for a ride on a sidewalks, you can't get around people, like, for what's crazy. - For what's crazy. - If you're a group of more than two,

“you have to go kind of two by two, kind of say this.”

- Here's my hot set, here's what I think.

If you want to post anything on the internet, comment, whatever, anything. We have to know your name and your dress, your phone number. - Your face, your face, your face. - No, anonymous, no, anonymous, any more.

And I think that I think that that would, I think it would change the world immediately. - I think so too. - If everybody, you have to, there is a record, and we know that they can do it,

because things like the blockchain where you can trace absolutely everything where you know it. So if we applied that same logic to that, so you can't go on to anything, you can't make any comment. You can, but we know your name, you're a dress,

your phone number. And by that we'll be able to decipher where you work, who your family is, all that's enough. And you are held, so that, because if I make a comment, everybody knows who I am, and so then I get,

I get held up to this crazy high standard that everybody else has not held up to. - Yeah, but wait, here's, here's my other take, is Jason commented on me the other night when we were at dinner, that when you order a dessert

for yourself, and then the waitress, comes over with spoons for everybody at the table, and you're like, wait, no. Everybody passed that order in dessert. I ordered dessert, and when offered,

everybody else like, no, I'm good, I don't want to do that. And then everybody spoons the shit out of your fucking dessert. - 'Cause I like that, 'cause you're own dessert. - Good, I like it. - 'Cause if you did not opt in, you don't get a spoon.

- Unless it was specified, bring us the Sunday and bring everybody a spoon. - That's right, otherwise, no. - Don't, don't that spoon out of the podium. Remember we had that week?

- No, we didn't have that the other night at the Odeon. - Right. - Well, I ordered this, I started, 'cause I said, I want to, I want to get a Sunday, and it was like, oh, and I go,

everybody gets your own dessert, you're done. (laughing) - That's fucking, that's right. - That's right, that's right, that's right. - That's right, that's right, that's right.

- That's right, that's right. - You have to announce it.

“- Yeah, that's why you don't keep being a fucking button.”

- And Jason, Jason, Jason's like, don't get the dough, and it's like, I got two orders of dough, and it's, he fucking, his face is buried in you. - Oh, he had six of 'em. Now, Korean, with all of this really cool, very well-deserved success, what has changed in your,

I'm presuming, very sort of, down to earth, man, of the people life. What have you, have you, will joked earlier? - Dude, like, upgraded your air conditioner, right. (laughing)

Or is it still taped to the window and red tape? (laughing) - Oh, look at that. - Don't worry about it. - Well, that's another, that's another big take

that I have when I was installing this. I was like, it is shocking that they let me do this in New York, and that I'm taping mine. That means that there, and then I started looking around, there's like people that, their air conditioner

are being held up by books. - Right. - Some people have a little piece of wood, and I'm like, there's not a standard process. - I agree, I agree.

- Yeah, there's a guy over there that has a, it's like a couple of text books. I can see, I'm like, and it's so scary, 'cause now I can't walk around New York City without thinking about my own self.

- Sure. - Putting in my air conditioner, and you guys obviously see how good of a job I've done. (laughing)

- I know, I remember, I remember cream the first time

I put an air conditioner in my window in New York,

This thing can go at any time. I just do this, I'm an idiot, and this thing is gonna fall on somebody and kill someone. - And it's not like the windows are nice. The windows are flimsy.

- The windows are flimsy windows. - The windows are made out of saran rap, essentially. And it's just terrifying, and there's no screws. None of this. There's no tools.

- No. - This is just like the windows holding in the window. - See, you haven't gone to mainstream air conditioning. What have you treated yourself to? - I mean, I, there's a lot less anxiety in my life

about what I'm supposed to be doing for a living, and that is really scary, 'cause I also started doing this when I was 33, which is later than many people, like many comedians or these social media kids, so they start when they're like, 20, 2, 21, 25,

they were in their college and propped group, like, so to start at 33 and take like this massive bet and then have it work out, it's shocking, and every day I'm just like, - It's dope, it's dope, I'm shocked.

- It's not shocking, it's just not shocking. You're a smart guy, and you are really funny, and you refer to yourself as it when people say, "What do you, you don't say creator, do you?" - No, no, no, no, no, no, I say entertainer,

'cause I also made for you. I wrote a movie, produced it, starred in it, that's out on movie, I make music, rock and roll band. The movie's called Or Something, or something, and it's a feature film, it's my first time.

- Can you explain that one? - On movie, MUBI. - MUBI, okay, that's like, it's a big one. - What to ask, whether to, do I have that big? - Yo.

- Oh, and then you say you're in a band, too? - No. - Yeah, I'm in a rock and roll band, called "Miney Gun."

- That's amazing, are you singing?

Are you drumming? Are you guitaring? - I sing. - Yes. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's kind of like a punk,

like Pixies, we love Pixies. - Because the Pixies meets the strokes, kind of situations. - Yeah, that's what I'm speaking about. - Yeah, you can give us a listen, it's a tiny gun.

- I know, I know. - And Hondo people, we played outside lands, last year we played outside lands, and Newport folk festivals really fun. Do you guys hear those sirens?

- Yeah, it's hard not to. - Yeah, they can't. - Oh, it's like, oh, they're conditioned. - Well, yeah, that's a ticket, it's shot. - It's really a shot, shot on this rickshaw.

(laughing) - It's Jason Baitman on a motorcycle. - I'm so, honestly, I'm so inspired by how much different stuff you do, and how many creative swings you really call once.

“I think it's awesome, I think that that is,”

you're doing the very thing that I was talking about, that I wish I could do more, you're taking chances and you're engaging in life in such an awesome way. I think it's dope as you know.

- There's some cultural relevance and health to it. - All right, it's amazing, it's amazing. - It's amazing, it's really cool. - That's, that feels like, it's such a compliment coming from you guys.

- No, but you're not catering to them.

- You're always coming, like you're trying to do stuff with,

I'm not necessarily worthy in the sense of helping humanity, but you are in a way, you are sort of engaging and keeping conversation going and provoking thought and just, I don't know, it's, I think it's really rad. - Bring and folks together.

- It's just that, it's that classic, playing at the top of your intelligence situation, which I feel like, because so many people are not doing that, I was like, let me just be a little bit different and try to be the smartest version of what this thing limits

you to, which is a phone, tiny screen, vertical, like, let me try to do the smartest thing possible. - And you're not prancing around in a speedo,

“you know what I mean, try to see, you know what I mean?”

- You don't want to see me in a speedo, you know what I mean? - You're doing that. - And selfishly, you're giving us ding-dongs, that are like promoting stuff, this really great, fun, creative, stop on our, on our, on our press tours to go talk to put. - Yeah, I want to have you guys on, I want to come to you.

- I want to do, I want to have all three of you on at the same time. - Oh, that's really good. - But here's the, Jason did it, I want to do just, just to one up, obviously, double that. - Of course, double that. - No, let's get you out, let's get you next time of your New York, I'm there, I'll be here all the time.

- All the time, I live there half the time. - Great, then we'll do it at literally any time, like I'll step out of the house, you know. - We take the one nine, is that okay? - Yeah, it's gonna say, what would be your subway?

- It tells that. - You know, like, where do they call it? The one now, it used to be the one nine on the west side, you know? - The red line.

- I've never been over there.

- Really? - I'm an east side guy. - Oh, we did it like that, it's like, no, no, no, I'll come to you. - No, we'll take the six, that's fine. - Oh, I'm not at all coming in. - I'm fucking, I'll take the F, I don't give you this. - I also want to say something that, so I, this has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Although, it kind of does, but like, going back, I don't want to tote flute by own horn, to my own horn, to my own flute.

“- I don't want to tote flute. - I don't want to tote flute. But I want to say this here, in case anyone from the, what are they called?”

The Academy? - Sure. - Yeah, we're going, subway takes us going for an Emmy. - Is it? - Okay. - So, for your consideration. - Great, subway takes. - subway takes, but there's got to be on the tell me, love that, I love that, I love that you just said that.

- Is it in that called a wevy? - No, it's a creative arts Emmy. You can get a creative arts Emmy for, like, short form.

“- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, like, like, you know, it's a bits a lot, like, like, like, carpool karaoke is a winner.”

- Or the, or the, the dude with the hot wings? - Yes, shout out for Hollywood. - So, so, okay, so, so, so, cream, to be clear, if, if you, if you happen to be listening to this and you are a, a voter in the, television academy. - Check these, watch it, or yeah. - Please check out my cream show and consider it. - Yeah, thank you. - Thank you. - Thank you. - We're trying to go and listen to you guys. - Guys, I'm still, I'm still out here doing this. I'm still out here, chilling for myself. - Yeah, I love it.

- No one else is gonna do it. - Okay, good for you. - I have this opportunity. Let me, let me, I want to see you guys there, first of all, and when we, when we see each other there, we should hug. - Oh, with the Emmys. - Yeah. - Oh, it's the Emmys, we're gonna hug like hell. - Yeah. - That's all, huh. - That's a phrase, right? Hug, I want to, like, he's like, hell, like hell. - Oh, I'm not sure. - Oh, that was a really, that was a really good take about men, is that we haven't standardized our creating, so, like, I might go up to Will with a hand up in the air, like, what's good, man?

Like, just you, I might extend a hand to Jason, and then he's, and it's confusing, or I'll hug Sean, and, and it's, yeah, and it's really good for me. - You need a standard. - My buddy years ago, Ali Farnak, and you used to say you watched me say, "You always start road to the White House, which is just a handshake, and then anywhere you want to go after that."

- But you always start road to the White House. - This is a good advice, so you extend the hand.

- Always extend the hand, road to this called, "Road to the White House." - You open to getting pulled in. - And then wherever you want. - Yeah, I always loved it. - You can consider driving a cab, that's really good, like, that's kind of cab driver advice, I guess. - Amen, it might get to that. - Grim, we are thrilled to have you, we love you, we root for you, watching you, actually, we're going with my friend. - Thank you guys so much, this was really, really fun, and really fun for you guys, letting me, really need to show seriously.

- I'll see you on the city. - We'll see you on the show. - I'll see you on the show. - I can't have for it. - Thanks, Cream. - All right, bye, guys. - Thank you so much for having me. - Yeah, I'm shaking your hand, goodbye. - It's a little shake. - There he goes, Cream. - There he is, Haroma. - Haroma is good, he's so good. - Cream, Haroma, yeah. - Really great, dude, I love it. - Shiny, did you invite you on the show?

- Yeah, I noticed that, right, right, there he is. - You know, I was thinking, I think he's working with you safety, I think that that was it.

- By the way, I've never, I've never rode on this subway. - Hang on a second.

- Try to do my, I'm trying to do my, I can't believe that face, I'm trying to. - Hang on, why? - Yeah, Sean, that's true, isn't it? - That is very true, you know. - Is that really true? - Yeah. - Never want to be in the subway in New York City. - I mean, if I did maybe once 25 years ago, but I don't remember it. - It's not on purpose, it just hasn't happened. - I just don't feel, I just rather take a cab.

- Oh, so it is on purpose. - Yeah, yeah, it's totally on purpose. I don't even know how they work, I don't even remember they are.

“- There is showing, I will give you, it is a hack, because you spend a lot more time in New York these days. If you have to, it can get anywhere like two seconds.”

- It can get anywhere like two seconds. - Now I will do much with your navigation app, like ways or Google Maps or Apple, whatever it is. You can just say, you know, how do I get there via via car or via subway? And then when you hit the subway, it'll give you a little map how to walk to the subway, what to do. - But it's overwhelming to me because there's, aren't there like 75,000? - But it tells you what it is. - It'll walk you, yeah, it'll tell you what to do. If you don't know it, you'll tell you what to do.

And I'm telling you, you can save yourself hours of being stuck in the freaking car or something. - It's so good. - And it's so safe, look what it is, it's all right. - All right, that's a great idea. - It is great. - All right. - We'll do it together because I love riding on him. We'll do it next time I'm there. - All right. - We'll hold hands all the way through it.

But you guys should check out those two shows. Very good.

- Yeah, well, I've seen a couple of his clips on Instagram and they're always funny and engaging.

- So funny. - Like you said Jason, it's really interesting that he started something out of like,

“you know, who would have thought that just conversation would be interesting?”

- Well, I will say this. I think that there probably are a lot of people who think like, "Hey, I'm interesting and I could just do talk show or I'm going to do a thing." And the truth was that he did have an actual talent for it and that he has an engaging person. - He's very authentic and very authentic. - Very authentic. - Yeah, you know exactly. - Yeah, you just know who he is.

- Yeah. - And I bet he could do it. He could probably like you take it on the road. He could go overseas. He could do it. He could do definitely do one in each episode. - Because he was born in each episode. - Yeah. - Yeah. - He's beautiful. - Yeah. He's beautiful. - Smartness is 100% organic in our tizantly handcrafted by Rob Armjorv, Bennett Barbaco and Michael Grantary.