"Nick Kroll"

- Well, good day. - Good day.

- Guess my age. - 59, 59, 62. - What the hell? No, but Ruby, but Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby. - No, really, I actually, what are you?

“I'm 57, I think you're 50, you've always been a year younger, right?”

- Yeah. - Are you still, or did you pass me? - No, no, it looks like you've been 50, you passed me. - Yeah. (laughing) - I just batch fired so much, welcome to my list. - It's smart.

(upbeat music) - Hi guys. - Hi. - Hi, where are you going? I'm just finishing up a text here and sending. - Okay. - Wonderful.

- Oh, good, good, good. - Yeah. - Now I'm back with you. - You've had you crystal clear today. - And JB, we're having a little bit of an earlier start today. So, I'm imagining your morning, 'cause I know you bake in two hours, baseball season is on.

So, you're active on the trade front, you're managing your various leagues. - Well, I've fast forwarded through the final six innings of last night's game. - Right, I'm sorry. - You take the games?

- Every night. - Every one of them. I watch every time. - I watch them at five AM. - Why don't you watch 'em live? - Well, I don't, I just don't get 'em done before I go to sleep. And so, I finish 'em up the next morning.

That helps me get out of bed. I've got the rest of the game to watch.

“That's a reason to wake up in the morning.”

- Okay, so let me ask you a question. Do you fast forward in between each play? - Yeah, I wait until at least one runners-on-base,

preferably I like to get somebody to get to second base

for I go to. - I watch Wheel of Fortune the same way. - And I'm kidding. I'll fast forward through the picking of the letters until they get the puzzle. - Holy crap, wait until it's something

that you can figure out. - Yeah, exactly. Huh. - Sean, I do, is that anybody ever get, like get one guess one so early that you just, it surprises you so much that you have a mistake with the canchies, like does it go all over your hand

at that point? - Oh, oh, or do you ever like connect it to your temple? Like if you try to kill yourself, you know, and you just squeeze it all over the side of your face. Like what does it call cheese with?

- Yeah, it's a sandwich. - So JB, so I know JB does a bacon. So he bakes in the time. So bacon is dodger game speed through, right? And then as soon as it's over and not before,

I then go to my scores, my points, how many points have accrued on my fantasy base? - Coffee, coffee is accompanying all of this. - Coffee is very first. - Very, very nice. - Very nice.

- I need to light the fuse. - Sure. - And it needs a long fuse, so it needs time to burn down in the middle of the line. - For the bottom. - For the bottom.

- For the bottom. - For the bottom. You need to light the fuse with coffee. I know that's why I don't drink coffee because I don't want to be dependent on it. - Well, it's not that bad to depend on, you know,

like you got a half hour TikTok until the dynamite gets hit and then off you go. (laughing) - You know, because if you don't have a fuse mechanism, you could find yourself leaving for your day

and then you're out in the middle of the community. - No, we know. - And community. And you don't want the cuter to see something burning. - And you know, you gotta get to a bunker. - Sure.

- And so. - And that's unfortunate. - Right, so we're back to baseball. I picked up my scores. - Took your scores. - And then I start doing my loop around the internet.

And it's pretty high-brow loop, you know. Well, I'm not bitter as it was. - It's got subsites. Yeah, I'm seeing what's going on. - And you're talking about it.

- And actually funny to see that. So this morning I had that same thing where I woke up when I did my little, my games, my little crew, coffee, obviously, coming in and then. - All right, so your, your, your baking.

- Still in that old. - Yeah, so he's still doing little, little, quartle and octordle. - Yeah. - Uh-huh. - So that takes you and the gum is as good as it sounds.

Sorry. (laughing) So you're, what, what, how long is it take you, usually to do those three things, 20 minutes? - It depends because the way we play it is, the winner from the day before picks the starter word

“that you have to use for all three boards the next day.”

- Next it up. - Yeah. - The way, what happens? Yesterday's winner picks the starter word. - The starter word that you have to use on all three boards the next day.

- Oh, really? - Yeah. - So today's word was sadly. - Uh-huh.

- Yeah, they always get you with an L.Y.

- And, and, like, and, you know, certain people, like, we'll pick Dicky words to fuck you over and it fucks themselves over, too. - Sure. - And then, Dicky word would be something

that doesn't really provide a lot of fouls or a lot of consonants. - On Easter, on Easter, our, our pal put in bunny. - Sure. - Okay. - From the name before it. - And it was active.

(laughing) So it really messed this up. So today, so you, so I do that, get that wrapped up. And then, how'd you do today? You feel good about your sport?

- No, I did. - I made it, I made a really- - Here we go, Sean. This is why I don't mind it. - I don't mind it. - I made a really, well, here was interesting.

The day, the word from yesterday was sadly. And this morning, it was a word on our turtle. So we all had a one, which is rare. Yeah. And so, and then I was like, "Oh, I'm killing it."

And I made one error on the third one.

- Oh, you're not doing it. - You're doing it. (laughing) - Good, Sean, get out. (laughing)

- What was your error, you fucking moron? I don't even want to go into it. I actually, this is what a loser am. I audibly went, "No!" (laughing)

Because the letter was already not supposed to be there and I didn't have had like a brain problem. - Fucking, anyway, but what I was gonna get to is, that I turned on the news, I looked at some of the news online, you know, a little search round.

Same sort of thing. And it was such a bummer, and I thought to myself, and it's not the first time, I thought, "Why am I starting myself out in a rut?" I got a rally to die at this point, I'm so low.

- Right. - Because the news is, as we know,

so much of it is so depressing, and so,

and I thought, by the time I stopped looking at New York Times, Bloomberg, Washington Post, all these, I thought, "What's the point?" - I guess also, then what's the alternative is maybe tweaking your algorithm such as that?

- We're just not looking. - But what if you go to Instagram and you've managed to get the algorithm pointed towards, you know, unicorns and rainbows and stuff, and you get uplifting messages and all that stuff?

“- Sure, I think that that's positive for sure,”

but I think that actually what I came to today was, I talked to Shawnee earlier, after I got off the thing, and I talked to him, we talked about stuff, and it kind of, that was good as a palette cleanser. And then I was like, you know what,

I think from now on, I should play my game, put my three games, put the phone down, and do some, go outside, like two days ago, because I was still a jet-like, I started my little walk that you've done with me

before a little of it. I started at 615, this is what the ankle weights wrist weights, leg warmers, and the weighted vest. - Weight vest. - Weighted elbows, right?

- Weighted vest. - Weighted vest with the visor and spiky hair. - That, and I do one of the sort of a face shield, one of those droopy masks to keep the sun off your face. - No, I've got, I've got pharmacy, like Florida,

same glasses, you can put over your glasses, full around, okay? I've got walkin' headphones, any sort of room, like dip material on your backs, you're like it run over. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

full sleeves, full sleeves, you know, lots of weight. - Weighted vest. - Weighted vest. - So you can keep walking, last, yeah.

“But to wrap it up, I think that's the way,”

because I feel like I was starting, - What did you try meditation? You ever tried meditation? - I have. I'd like to do it.

- I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it.

- I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it.

- Did you try meditation? - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it.

- I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - I'd like to do it. - It was droppers at the end of a street or a sidewalk, and it was like, "No, oh, God, I ran."

- You walked in them. - Yeah.

“- Oh, you're talking about something that's about "nard height," right?”

- Yes, exactly. It's just a little higher than a fire hydrant, and it was painted black. - Okay. - Why do they have them on the corner of a sidewalk? - Right.

- Because it sounds like you're upper-east side, it sounds, but I know those black. - No, no, it's that upper-west. - After I ate at the Waverlyan restaurant, oh, no, it's down there. So did you catch it right in the nards? - No, right above the knee, and I couldn't-- - Oh, no, that got hurt.

Did you call it great and Carter for a reservation? - Yeah. - You did? - Yeah. - No, no, no, no. - Oh, you did it.

- No, no, no, I-- - Did Scotty throw you over a shoulder and walk you home?

- Basically, it was right in front of a taxi, and we were saying goodbye, and I was like,

"I ran right into the thing with mine." - Well, let's-- - Okay, well-- - And I was just like, "Can we run?" - Great time. - No, I just walked right into it. - Yeah. - No.

- All right, let's get to it, right? - What's your step count today? I'm guessing 400, it's right. - My guest today accidentally taught his two-year-old son to say, "I'm a coward." - Which made me laugh when I read it.

- He went to Georgetown and majored in history. His father's job included tracking the hidden fortunes of dictators. After bombing at his first college comedy competition, the guy that won, invited him to audition for a sketch show, and that changed the course of his life. He's voiced about 80 animated characters for real.

And the kid he met on the first day of first grade became his best friend and creative partner, helping turn their own humiliating stories about puberty into one of Netflix's longness, running scripted originals.

- Oh, Nick. - Nick. - Nick. - Nick Crawl. - Nick Crawl. - Nick Crawl. - Hey, boys. - Nick. - Nick. - Oh, he's going to take it down.

- Nick. - Nick. - I have not spoken yet today, and I'm listening to my voice,

and I feel like the first thing I've said all day.

“- Wouldn't it be amazing if we all, wouldn't it be amazing if we all had a word limit each day?”

Like if you'd be person next to you, it would be, yeah. - Hey. - But could you imagine if you had to budge it out your words for the day? - I don't think that would be interesting. - That would be interesting. - Well, you come up with some fun ideas. - Nick, you were east coast, because you've already got a smart look and jacket on.

- I'm on the west coast, I was debating on taking the jacket off before, but I'm dealing with what you guys are seeing as this center stage video, where I'm going to be constantly moving here. - Yeah, I'm just going to be following me. - Oh, look at that. - You can turn it off if you want. - You can turn it off if you want.

- I know I can, I can't figure out how it went. - Wait, why do you look so damn good already this morning? - We've got a short jacket on. - Yeah, we've got a call back earlier. - I got, yeah, it's a lipped and cup of soup. It's a three p.m. slime. - And did you crush it?

I felt good, I felt really good in the room. - Can you feed back yet? - Yeah, supposedly they wanted a better looking and older now. - Oh, so you're in the running case, I can't find. - Oh. - Yeah, so you guys were honestly, we're the demo. - We're that Telsi's calling, guys.

- Nick Croll. - Yeah, it's been a long time, how are you? - I'm great, it's really good to see you guys. - Let's call it a minute. - Let's call it a minute.

- The first time I met you was, I think,

was that Ted Seranus is a couple years ago at the Grammy dinner thing. - Yes. - Right? - What were you two doing at a Grammy? - The Grammy, yeah. - It was like, it was like for the comedy category. - And we were doing a duet, it was a bet mid-learn burn metal thing,

and I had a play for it. - Who played that, right? But you were so kind, and I felt, I immediately felt this rhythm with you. And I was like, oh, I'd love to get to know you. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - This is unbelievable every time I felt a connection with you.

Let me get put you number in the chat. - Fuckin' our each show. - Come on, the pot. - Come on, the pot. - Come on, the pot. - Let's come from lunch and wrap up how we think we did. I'm close by.

“- What's your story later, 'cause you should come on the pot.”

The boys let me make the choices on the show. - All the time. - The choices. - You're so smart and funny and handsome, and. (laughing) - Let's go on a run.

- You wanna go for a run? - I don't know, wait, wait, that's going to run. - Wait, wait, wait, so that was the first time that you guys had met. - I actually met you many, many, many years earlier. There was a guy you said you, like, treasure hunts around LA.

- Oh, yeah, I have to remember that. - J.P. Manoo. - Yes. - Yeah, you're talking about the larp. - I don't know if that's what it was.

- No, it was before amazing race.

- I remember that. - And it was just like the amazing race. And this guy organized just a bunch of people to go do this around Los Angeles. It was really fun.

- Yeah, so you were there, and you, like, I was just sort of starting in you were one of the most famous people in the world in that group of five. - So I saw you, and I said one day, they're gonna make podcasts, and I'm gonna hit on him.

It heads around those guys already. Wait, wait a second, you're skipping over that you predicted podcasts. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Why that's just, no, we had to get them at him two soes to find it.

- Right, that's true, that's true. - Why have those got a weight so high? - J.P. do you remember in the '90s they, these guys had a game going. - Yeah, it was called the larp,

and they were both out of Stanford. - There was one, no, there was another one we went around and everybody had to, you had a squirt gun, and it was like a game of tag around LA. - My daughter does that as senior seniors.

- No, but all these actors, when we were in our 20s in the '90s in LA, I remember being out here for pilot season, mid '90s, and somebody's saying, do you wanna get in this thing? And people would be like,

add an audition at Warner Brothers, and some dude would come out of nowhere, and spray him in like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You're in, I was like, - Can you imagine walking onto a lot now

with a water gun or something? - So, at Franny's School, so it's senior assassin, if you get hit with a water gun, you're out,

“and the only way that you can protect yourself”

and not kill yourself from getting at some sort of a surprise hit is wearing swim goggles, out in public, all day, every day, or swim floaties. So you see like these students are all around town, like markets and shopping, and they're really funny.

- It's pretty, it's pretty cool, but the scavenger hunts things, these high-end scavenger hunts, I'm pissed that they've gone away, we should resurrect that. - Let's do it.

- Celebrity scavenger hunts.

- You guys have a lot of free time. - Do you wanna start getting into it?

“- Let's do, organizing, local city, trash, scavenger hunts.”

- I'm gonna work on that one. - Nick Crawl, let's get into it.

First of all, thanks for being here,

and I did mean that, I just felt like a comedy connection with you, we were very funny right off the bat, and I felt like I've known you, but anyway, - He's a nice guy, and he's a very nice guy. - And he's a very nice guy.

- What's not to get a rhythm with? - So wait, is that true 80 voices, 80, 80, 80? - I think so, that's what I think so. - And like if I threw out names, could you, you don't wanna do that?

- I probably could. - I mean, I'm a monkey, I'll give you what you need. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Two numbers, okay, I'm gonna do a fat, look at where you gunter from sing and sing, too.

- Oh yeah, this is guntop from sing. (laughing) (laughing) - Okay, that thing makes me laugh quicker than a German accent, it's okay.

- What about douche from sausage party? - douche was, oh, come at me bro, it was that sort of, (laughing) - No, wait, no, but wait, douche from sausage party.

(laughing) - Okay, so wait, I only had to doche from sausage party. We did that's the Rogan movie and they had, I did the whole thing as like a sort of a British villain like a, you know, the classic Disney,

British, like, jeffar kind of voice, and then, or like a scar from Lion King. And it just wasn't working and we did one last record where they rewrote it as that character was kind of a, this character did Bobby Bottle Service,

who was kind of, yeah. - I remember Bobby Bottle Service. Wait, you did your, you did, you did, you did your series on Netflix. - Big mouth.

- Big mouth. - Yeah. - And so we gotta clear, we gotta clear the error on this, you know what I'm gonna get, you know what I'm gonna get, of course.

- Yeah, so we've never talked about it,

so we've never, people have come into me hit me in the thing, talk to me in real life, I've been in line at the store, do you do the voice of, there's a character on your show that people thought was me. - His name is Mori, the hormone monster.

Is that what it is? - Everybody thinks, yeah, it's our net. - Yeah. - It's, I can't tell you how many people have left. - And that's you, Nick.

- It's me and Nick doing our net. - No, it's, I mean, this is okay. So here's a backstory here. Let's clear the error on this. - Let's clear it, finally.

- It's finally. So we did the show Big mouth. It's about kids going through puberty. And my friend, Andrew Goldberg, who Shawn mentioned, I met in first grade, we created the show together.

He had been a family guy for years. We've been friends forever. And he and Mark and Jen are other partners came to me with an idea about it. Animated show about kids about me and Andrew

at 13 going through puberty. And immediately it was like, great. This makes, I really see the show. So we started working on it and Andrew started talking.

“And he's like, you know, and like, I think my guy,”

who he was a really early developer, you know, he just hit puberty at like five and had a full beard by, you know. And he was sort of like, I think my character was like, something encourages him to jerk off.

Like, he's got like a hormone monster. And I immediately was literally immediately. It was like, touch yourself in, and it was like, that was the voice. Because I've been doing this guy.

I've been doing this guy Nash Ricky. I had a sketch show called Cole Show. Nash Ricky was sort of like a hair metal guy who was also like, Hado C.D. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Wait, there was Pete. Was Pete Jiles part of that? Yes, Pete Jiles was part of that, yeah. We had a song called LA Deli. And it was just about all the deli's in LA

like California girls. Because all those guys like hung out of, you know, fucking canters and all that. Yeah. Anyway, so I did this voice Nash Ricky. So I then we go to do Bigmouth.

We develop it. We make it. It comes out. I've known Will forever. Will is on the air with Bojack at this, like so.

Same thing. Yeah. The same time, Bojack is like the the premier fucking animated show.

It never crossed my mind.

That anyone would be like, is that our net? And then we start to show and it works and everybody's like, can't believe you got our sound like our net. [LAUGHTER]

“I think, Nick, I honestly, I can't tell you”

how many people over the years I'm like, no, it's not. I think it's, I didn't know if it was you, but I was like, so fun. I think it's cruel. That's just, yeah.

Is that just still going? No, we did eight, we did eight seasons. Wow, that's remarkable. And where does it go? Will have done, we, we didn't more of those

than basically any other scripted Netflix show. I think besides those arc. How many of you guys have done? 140, you've got 140, you've got 140. It felt like 140.

Season's, yeah. It's too, anyway. So we did it and we're about to put out a new show called mating season. It's the same team.

That looks so great. What's the premier on that, Sean? What's the premier day? Oh, God, you, wait, I have to look it up. I jumped it.

I got it. I got it. I just pulled it on this side of the later scrolling scrolling. When is it day? I'm so sorry.

Check the chat, maybe Michael, when is it? I sent it to you. Oh, my God, I can tell you it's not. I don't even know. Double back at the end, Sean.

Okay. We'll be right back. And now, back to the show.

So I know you, so I feel like the first time I saw you was at UCB over 20 years ago.

“I think the first time we met you were maybe doing monologues at ASCAD one night.”

Yes. I think that was like, like, early 2000s and you were so funny. It was one of those, like the first time I saw you was like, "Oh, this dude is fucking hilarious." Thank you.

Like right out of the gate. And then you just went on to do what I love is that you went on, and you and Malini did so much cool stuff. You did a show on Broadway, you did, you did, you did sketches, you did sketch shows, you've just done what I love is how many different kinds of things you have done.

You do stand up, you do all of it, and is there, is there, now at this point do you go like, "Oh, it feels too spread out, I want to concentrate on this because I know you just did a stand up special." Yes. Just watched it.

It's so good. Is that funny? Where you want to go, or do you feel like you still want to just do millions of different things? I mean, I like what I'm shooting for is like a B minus across the board and you can shoot

for B minus. You do so much.

You can never disappoint yourself.

You can really, you don't shoot too high, you stay general and broad, and then nobody can attack you for fully committing to anything. That's right. Oh, I know that. Yeah.

Yeah. It's all about longevity. It's all about just staying right in the middle for as long as possible, and they can't. Don't get too, wait.

Wait. This JB, Yumi, and Crowell did that animated show with mid-truits. Yeah. Sit down, shut up. Sit down, shut up.

Right. That was very. Yeah. It was literally right after arrested, and it was awesome, four-tay, four-tay. Yeah.

I want to watch that again. I remember the animation being there that we had. Yeah. I'm playing in character. I would not currently play.

Yeah. Copy that. Copy that. Oh. His name was Andrew Legustambos, and it was a Legustambos.

He liked it. It was a bisexual Latin teacher. Yeah.

“Do you think you did a little bit literally if you started that today?”

Do you think that today's culture would attack as much as it did? Let's say even six months to a year ago? No. I think everything is. I feel like things are kind of settling.

I mean, I don't think I would play that character right now. But I do think things are settling a bit. All of that stuff that I think we're finding different levels now to it. Right. Right.

I don't know why. I mean, the issues haven't gone away, but maybe the tolerance and the exploration of finding humor in things that are more challenging is more around. I don't know. There's a general, I mean, I think there's polarizing views of it, but I think there's

a general attempt to be more thoughtful about what we're doing or how we're doing it. And if you're generally more thoughtful, then I think there's more room for different versions of people playing different versions of people. I think in that way. I think also, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, we have to pay more attention

to intent. You know. And if the intent is to injure or to sideline or to, to, to, to, to minimal hurtful of people. Yeah.

Yeah. Then there's no room for it.

“And let's do that for our personal friendships, right?”

Yeah. Of course. And family. And family. Exactly.

And family. Yeah. Wait. So Nick, when you first started out, I mentioned in the intro, you, you, you bombed freshman year in comedy competition.

Yeah. And the guy who won and then gave you the opportunity was Mike for Biglia, right? Yes. No way. Yeah.

Crazy. I mean, that's crazy. Where was it? It was a Georgetown. We did this thing called the funniest act on campus.

And I'd never done comedy before in any real capacity.

And there were, you know, like, flyers up. Yeah. And I went and did it. I was really nervous about it. And I just, uh, I showed up and my whole bit was that I was going to get on stage

ago. You know, I thought I'd be so nervous, but I'm super relaxed. And then I was going to piss my pants like that. That's a great band, that's a good band, right?

It wakes up. I did not prepare. I got, I was like, you know, I was like, you know, I was just like so nervous that I showed up. And I had not, I had not, I was going to bring like a water balloon and a pen and like pop

the water. I mean, I thought, I didn't, so, but I forgot all of it. I grabbed like a, a sandwich bag in the trash and grabbed a pen and just got on stage and just like jammed over the pen into this like water bag in my pocket.

So it just looked like I was jerking off on stage, basically, which is what I've been doing

ever since. But Mike, Mike won, Mike had like a solid five minutes as like a sophomore. And he won the competition and got to start hosting at the DC Improv. And then he was doing a sketch related that year and invited me to audition and I did that audition and then got cast and we went to like a kids apartment on campus and red.

All these sketches. And I like, it was truly the one time I, if I walked out of that thing, I was like, this is it. Yeah. This is all I, this is it.

This is what I wanted to do.

“Because what were you, what were you studying at Georgetown at the time?”

I was studying history and mindering and art and Spanish, just kind of like coasting, coasting on proof. That was didn't go. Yeah. Waiting for something to hit you to, to do, or were you going to make a career out

of history? I was going to, I, I don't know, I think I was just, I truly was coasting, you know, I, I just was like, I like history because I think I liked town stories. But I think I was still scared to like right in, you know, so English wasn't, didn't feel entirely safe.

And then we started doing, and so we auditioned for that sketch show. And we literally then went at the, we did our sketch, it was like, we rehearsed for three months to do one night in Bulldog alley on campus. And then, and that the show was, I mean, we bomb, but I met all these guys who I continued to know and work with still, including, for big, and then UCB was just about to come on

the air and they came down to GW and did a show at GW, it was like a big improv festival.

And it was the first time I saw those guys.

And I, my mind fully exploded. And they do bucket of truth with a bucket of truth and we, it was, it was little donny member little donny's, it was like, faster at the sketches, little kid with a huge, and what I saw that and then, and then, and then moved to the city that summer, or it could start to go into the city, we did a workshop at UCB and, and we'll, you know, Owen Burke, very

guys all know, Owen, Owen was my brother's roommate in college and Owen started, had just started at UCB, so I started going to UCB, started going to ask cat as a fan, you know, I was like, and could not believe what I was seeing. I agree. I had the same, first of all, I had the same sensation, I saw them do bucket of truth

“in 1996, they just moved from Chicago, can you tell me what the fuck were through this?”

It was a sketch show that they did, and they did it downstairs at the West Bank on 40 seconds of the restaurant, they had a little space down there, and I was like, what, and it was Walsh and Amy and Besser in, in, in, in Roberts, I was like, what the fuck, like, watching what these guys did? So I loved it, and then they, they started doing it, they started doing ask at it that

other place solo arts on 17th Street, but we moved into the theater, and I would go every Sunday, and J.B., you remember my old roommate, Duff, I had lived with Duff, I've been roommates years, but you know, Duff too, right? I know Duff, yeah, a little bit. Yeah, oh, and through Owen, and so I said, oh, I said to Owen and Duff, I go, you guys

got it, I said, let's go to this thing and see these guys, and Owen came along to, I got it. I brought him to his first UCB show, and he did it because artistic director of UCB, yeah. Is that one? Yeah.

Owen Brown. That is one. Funny. Good man, and that was sort of, so I started coming, and we would go, and I was, you know, I went to solo arts once or twice, and so all those shows, and then would go to the theater

22nd Street, and sit on the, you know, wait, sit on the side, and look up, and it was like, all these people, you know, who were, you know, who were just popping on Conan, and, oh, and laser, and Tina, and McKay would be there, and all this stuff. Yes, it just was, like, and as soon as I, literally as soon as I saw it, the first, did that sketch, little sketch show, and then joined the improv group.

My sophomore, he was like, done, I'll do, back to sort of what you're saying, I was like, I'll do anything, get me, get me close to this. I'll do anything. But to speak more about, you know, because I'm just, I'm most fascinated with people

“at that age where you need to, or you think you need to commit to a career, and you have”

to really think about making rent and feeding yourself, and like, you're out from the

next at home, and, and so you're at this opportunity, an incredible university, you haven't

there's enough momentum going in this lane where I need not continue to consider other means of support. Well, for me, after Silver Spoon, I just wanted to have fun, I mean, this is why I'm so curious about it, because it was like, I'd had this momentum since I was a little kid, but I still at 18, I thought, well, is it going to last?

I maybe I should study something else, it's a little bit more reliable. Well, so, so, going back, so the other thing, my connection to Jason, a bit, is that you, you're originally from Rye, right, or your family, so I'm from Rye, New York. Oh, no way. Yeah.

So, you know, I grew up with plenty of privilege, so I went to, I never had, like, the privilege

was that I could sort of be like, what do I want to do when I went to college, and I started, and I, you know, school was never exactly my thing, I was fine at it, but as soon as I started doing improv and comedy and sketch, I was like, I'll do anything, like, I'll print, you know, like, I'll, I'll go anywhere at any hour to get this done, and when I moved to New York, I had, I did have the, the real, the privilege of knowing that I could

fall back, like, if it didn't work, I could go get a job somewhere, like I was, it was going to be okay, yeah, but it was, the thing I feel so lucky about is that I had such a clear, I knew, I knew, I wanted, I knew as soon as I started doing it, this is all I wanted to do, and any work, now, the question of whether I was going to make it as the

“intangible, right, but I think the idea for me was like, well, I'm going to regret the”

fuck out of this if I don't try, you recognize that it was something that really fed your soul that you were decent at it, you liked the, the out of boys, and it was sort of self perpetuate.

Yeah, and it's never, it's never waned, at least for me, which is interesting, because

maybe you do have that as well, at the same time, this was, this was your thing, since before you can remember doing anything else, really, since you were a little kid, there was never like, hey, I'm going to try my hand at this, you were in it, you were always in it, right? I mean, I don't want to say that, yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that you didn't have

a choice, but that was your, in a lot of ways, it was your job, it became your passion. Yeah, I, I, I had realized that I was halfway decent at something before I needed to have something that I was halfway decent at, so that was, that was a, yeah, and, and I think for you, it's, so, on that, and you were cute as a button, if I can say, stop it, God, let's get a rhythm, don't remember the chat, no, no, no, no, not another rhythm, can I, I run enough,

but J. B, you had that, that second gear for you, the thing that you found was when directing And seeing you light on at this stage of your life, when you talk about directing is the same way,

“I think that I certainly did a nick to a you describe it,”

discovering this thing where you go,

I love this, I gotta do this, I'll print flyers, I'll do whatever it takes, true. You kinda have it for directing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like 10, 12 years ago or 15 years ago.

- Right, and like anyone out there, if you were lucky enough to get paid a little bit to do something that you would pay somebody else to do, because you love it so much, that's the sort of fuel that can really travel you

into success and longevity and instead of just punch in a clock, if it's something that really is passionate. - Nick, just quickly, did you do, 'cause you worked with a lot of great people we mentioned, Mitch Hurwitz, and obviously Melaney,

you've had a lot of great partners and collaborators. Another funny dude that we know that we all connect with his John Levin scene, who we're talking about. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah.

- Super, super fun. - One of the funniest, most bizarre men in the world. - I know, I know, I just have to say it since we just mentioned that the Kroll shows one of my favorite shows of all time.

- Thank you. - We've truly, I mean, so funny. And Levin's scene was a big part of that, right? - Yeah, he was the, he was the showrunner and he had come, we hired, I mean, I met him doing this cartoon called

Life in Times of Tim, and then up on HBO,

“that was like, and Jiles, that's how I met Jiles.”

- Jiles, yeah, that's how I met Jiles originally, which we made Jiles. - Yeah. - And one of the great voices, talk about art, and you think we got some gravel, that motherfucker.

- He Jiles. - You can catch him, you can hear him, every word. - Yeah, you know, it's the world series on the fog. - Yeah, it's Jiles. - So it is, yeah, I mean, I, hey, by the way, Jason,

I'm so sorry as you told me it didn't work out. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm on the video stuff. They can't all be winners on the show. - I do, I do envy what you guys can do with Vio.

I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

- Jason, I forgot to tell you last week, I was, I was out east, and I was with, I have for dinner with my little guy Danny who's five, and there's a couple sitting next to us, and they're talking about, and they've got like a seven-year-old

girl, they're talking about Zootopia and my guy, Danny goes, I saw Zootopia too, and they're like, we love Zootopia too, and he goes, and he comes up and he goes, "Dad, can I tell him?" I go, "Tell him how it goes about Jason."

(laughing) - Sure, and he goes, "My dad's friend Jason is the voice of Nick." (laughing) He's my son is five, it was so sweet. - How about, how about I'm just excited

that he knows my name? - I know. - I know. - I love that little guy. - And that's sweet?

- I love that. - Nick, can I ask him about growing up because we touched on that a little bit,

“I think it's fascinating and this is why when I read this,”

I laughed out loud that you grew up in Ryan, New York, and your parents sent a limo to pick you up from school. Is that, is that, oh, yeah. - No, no, no, every once in a while. - When you're good.

- So it wasn't, you had to really, that made me laugh out loud when I read that. And like, is that true? - Yeah, it was like different strokes, right? Like, you just had your face, right?

(laughing) - That's true. - Oh, what happened to all those limos? You remember when you used to see stretched limos? - Well, that was everywhere, where did you go?

- I kind of thought about bringing it back this year, when we went to the big ward, show the other, oh my god, I thought it would be funny to pull up to like the Academy Awards in a white stretch limo. - Oh, I wanted to know where they went, literally,

like, I guess, scrap metal yards, or do they put-- - They're whamos, you know? - They're all whamos, they're all whamos. - They're all whamos. They're all whamos.

- Wait, so Nick, I mean, you were playing in Europe. - They're all whamos, you're all whamos. - You talked with them, you talked with them, you talked with them in Europe. (laughing)

- That's a great joke, so you had to, there were occasions where you had to be driven to school.

It's always what it is, it's always what it is.

- My dad, my dad, it's like the internet, the internet is real, loves to speculate on my dad, his business, fascinating business, fascinating, of course, built incredible business. - Do you guys, Jay, do you know about his dad?

- No, please, Jay. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

“- I believe that, and when I read about it, Nick,”

I understood 10% of it, so can you-- - Are you stealing a drug dealer, what is it? - Consultants, Dave, I'm deals, drugs, he dealt drugs to arms dealers. (laughing)

- That's a proof, 'cause it's two different, it's, you know, they, you gotta find the guy who's gonna come in between him. (laughing) Was that what that Jonah Hill movie was about?

Those guys remember the movie? - Oh, yeah, I liked that movie. - With Nick Kay, word dogs, yeah. - Yes, word dogs, was there, was that there doing? - I wanna see that.

- But anyway, he built this, he sort of did, the larger umbrella would be like risk mitigation, so like it started as like corporate investigations, due diligence, and during the 80s it was, like Wall Street, takeover, private,

all those like hostile takeovers, like doing, of all, like Ivan Bosky, and all those kinds of characters, and then it was dictators, like Saddam, like the Quadie government hired him

to find Saddam Hussein's money. And baby, Dr. Valier, and Haydi, and the Marcos. - Hello, baby, Dr. Valier, now you're really going into it. - Me and Melani were trying to write a movie. - Baby dog handles Kimmel, handles Fowl and Kimmel.

(laughing) - James Dickson, baby dog, baby dog, that's baby dog,

that's baby dog, baby dog, wait a second, Nick,

now that I think it did it, did it, did Duff write a book about your dad's company? - He may have, yes, he may have, he did. - Yes, yeah. - And so he, and then he, he's gone on to,

continue to sort of work in various versions of that business and he and my brother have a company called K2, now, which continues to do different versions of investigations and risk mitigation and security stuff. - They make stuff like that.

- And they make great, I know everybody out there likes Salmon, but Nick, you know what I do want to say and I'm glad you talked about it because you didn't decide how what your dad did or how you were born or what, and your dad started a company

and he was successful at what he did. - Yeah. - And so I like that you just, you talk about it openly 'cause what the fuck are you gonna do? - Yeah.

- You don't need fucking energized. - The internet'll find you. - No, I know, but why, you don't need to apologize

“for where you came from, what are you supposed to do?”

- All right, exactly. - Thank you. - Yeah, I think so. - No, but it is, I just got, I mean, I feel like I got real lucky, I got Delta real good hand.

- Of course you did, but you, and I've said, I've known you 20, 25 years, you work really hard, you create a lot of stuff, you create a lot of stuff on your own, you didn't have family in show business, and you did it all through hard work and talent.

So, you know, fuck everybody. - But he's, yeah, that sounds really fascinating, like, - No, thanks a lot. - Get them to investigate,

- It's kind of, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Just look into it, but Jason, why do you keep going to Grand Cayman? - What? - Answer that. - I'd listen to these people or some of you are doing the firm cosplay.

(laughing) - But yeah, the kind of reactions and know how he's got.

- Yeah, that sounds incredible. - That's like up there with,

if I could pick a new career, if I could go back in time, if I was like 17, and I would like to get recruited by the CIA. - Oh, yeah, you have, you have CIA vibes written all over you. - I would love to be somebody in my mid-50s, like, well, I'm in on my late '50s now, that is still,

like, I would like to be able to hold that secret from, 'cause you're not supposed to be able to tell your family, or you're getting it. - Right, I mean, if you're really good,

“if you want to hold more secret from your family,”

I've got to, I've got a little more room. I've got a little more room on my drive. - We just went through your morning routine. You think that you're CIA ready? (laughing)

You fucking kidding. - No, you're that's what you do in the CIA. You watch the end of a Dodger game. - Yeah, no way, this guy's a spy. Look how dummy is.

- They're like, how do we kill that Bateman agent? Is that the golf club? - Well, be right back. - And now, back to the show. - Were you gonna say, Nick,

were you gonna say you and Melanie were working on a script about it, or no, was that what you were saying?

- We were working on a script as the first,

we sold a movie called "Most Glorious Friend." And it was, you know, those like Nigerian, email prints, emails, gams? - Yeah. - Well, the premise of the movie was like,

this time it was real. And it was gonna be Tracy Morgan as the deposed dictator of a country called Lyrobia. And he's been a little mo. And that was, so like a bunch of couple college kids

responded to the email and then like, Tracy Morgan shows up being like, "Where's my money?" - Mm-hmm. - And we watched him have that crazy. - It was genuinely very, I mean, I was probably structurally.

I mean, we had no idea we were doing, we were just sat there, reading, save the cat by the chapter, and then trying to write off of that. - Save the cat as a screenwriting book.

- Oh, so that's so fun. That's such a fun taking, sure and I worked on this thing years ago, I'm like sure we called the ambassador about the,

that basically he's too dumb to kill.

He's the son of a center, and they make him onboard to the EU to ruin all their trade deals. And then he's like getting chased like born, but he doesn't realize he's being,

like he's getting chased, he keeps going, go around! (laughing) - You both, all three of you guys could be spies. You guys should be like 50s,

the worst spies post, cold war spies. - Right. - That's like spies like you. - Spies like us. - Yes, spies like us.

But there's just, there's just how it's pronounced at the end. - Wait, so this made me laugh too, because big mouth is about, like you said, you and your friend, Puberty, 13 years old.

But I read your sister Vanessa is now a professional Puberty educator. - Yeah. - What does that mean? - What does that mean?

- So yeah, my sister Vanessa is a, yeah, she became an expert in Puberty. She started a thing called Dynamo Girl, a number of years ago, and it's like after school program for sports, for girls.

And then as she was teaching these young girls, like they, as they got older and started going through, Puberty, she realized that there was just a ton of, there was just like a empty spot in that in sort of the education around that

and like having parents and kids understand what's going on. So I mean, it's a crazy synergy,

“but I think it just speaks through a little bit of,”

I guess our experience here, she's two years older than me, of going through that period of life together. It was a, of interest. Like we had those books,

you like what's happening to me? You know, those like groovy 70s books with like body drawings of the body. And so we were, they're got it to be Margaret.

- Yeah, like all of that stuff, I think blue large thrust, and so it became an interest for both of us. She's, and she's like, so she's kind of a writing about parenting

and that kind of stuff she's got for her. - And then, is she the one who's the one married to the minute, one of the men in Blazers? - That's my sister Vanessa's married to Roger Bennett from Men in Blazers.

- Oh, wow. - Yeah, I know those, I love those, yes. - And all your siblings, there's four of you. - Yeah, are you all funny people? - Like are you all, I think so.

- I don't know how it works in your family, but like I think it's pretty rare that someone comes out of a family that isn't all, if they're funny, that isn't all so funny. - Right, right. - My brothers, my brothers really funny

“and my sisters, yeah, I think they're, it was in the family,”

there was a sense of humor.

- They're both pretty funny, my dad's funny.

And my mom's got a very good sense of humor, especially having to do with me to help jokes about moms, like she, you know, she's like,

“people tell me am I, am I upset about the jokes about moms?”

And I say, I'm not. (laughing) - They're both fair name. - Yeah, funny. - But though it's a funny family, I think,

but I think, but me kind of being like, no, I'm gonna go be a comedian. - Yeah, I've been almost like, huh. - So there was definitely, it wasn't like, well, of course you're gonna, you know.

- You know Jim, you know Jimi Valley. - Yeah. - Jimi Valley used to. - Another of that, Lavin, see another Resson guy. - Yeah, another Resson, Jimi, the great Jimi Valley,

who's one of the all-time, yeah. - And one of the all-time, funniest, and has jokes that nobody else can think of, that are just so kind of fucking love Jimi Valley.

Anyway, he used to always say he'd say,

like, you know, if you come, we were talking about some, he said, yeah, this guy sort of came from a good family because he had more to lose, and I go, what do you mean? He goes, well, in a way, he could have gone into,

he could have been a lawyer, he could have went to a good school and stuff, and he risked it all to do this. If you come from nothing, you got nothing to lose. - 100%.

- Yeah. - And I was like, oh, that's interesting, and everybody's not that way. - Yeah, that way. - Well, Nick, you're so multi-talented,

and you've done so many different jobs in the structure of things. How do you decide what to do next? And like, what would the perfect next five years look like? I mean, I don't know how strategic you are.

I imagine, and I don't mean that as a pejorative, you know, like, it takes a certain amount of planning to get things done in this business. I mean, you got, look, he's got room mate out April 17th.

He's got mating season on May 22nd. - Sure, sure, sure. - The final thing got a shot. - I've got the final thing, yeah. - I've got the final thing, yeah.

- The final thing. - The final thing, yeah. - The final thing, yeah. - The final thing, yeah. - The final thing, yeah.

- That's another Netflix. I mean, you have tons of stuff coming out of this.

“- Well, by the way, Nick, you need to know”

that Scotty was just off camera going, that just, I just bumped it up in your email. Okay, so just. - He just held out, he just held up safe. He's got him, he was like, "Did you want me to stop warm up your day?"

- I guess your date? - Hotpale.com/male. - Male, can we, um, we actually met it on Hotmail. Anyway, so that's just a little joke. Just as small as there wasn't Miranda as the party.

- It was on Hotmail, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - And there just felt like a comedy connection there. - Yeah. - So, um, my strategy is, I keep,

and I feel like, honestly, you guys all, also do a lot and produce, like I keep a number of balls in the air that are all at different stages of development. - Yeah.

- And so, you know, I'm, and I, so I think I, like this show, um, mating season is the follow-up to Bigmouth, and it's about animals, dating, and fucking, and falling in love in the woods.

So it feels like a natural sort of tradition of that. I've been working with my partners, Mark and Andrew and Chen on that. It's me, Zach Woods, June Diane Rayfield, and Sabrina Jolie, so it's like, you know,

like a fun, fun, hang out kind of in the vein of like an animated version of friends, or, um, I can't remember any of the other, any of those other NBC shows, uh, you can't see TV. But, you know, that sort of, that genre,

“that's what I mean, that, that's what I mean.”

- I mean, that, that, that, that, that, that's what I felt. - Oh, I felt like, that's what I felt, that's what I felt. - Yeah, I felt, that's what I felt. - Wings, wings, you're thinking of wings. - Wings was great.

- I love wings to Big Influence, and the single guy, - I think you're thinking about guy, of course, - That's the single guy, that's what you're thinking of. - Yeah, I care a line in the city. - Kerosene.

- But then there was that show with the gay guys, two guys in a big picture on a pizza place. - Two guys on a pizza place. - Two guys on a pizza place. - Oh, that was a pleasure.

- That was ABC, you're a crazy guy. (laughing) - Yeah, yeah. - And that's about it, I guess that's that, that was that must be TV stuff.

- Yeah. - But, um, but, but, but you, but you're like in this ideal position of really kind of being your own boss, and self, self perpetuating, and you've got this great sort of troop of collaborators

and colleagues, and for sure. - Right, it's, it's, it's, is it as ideal as, it sounds? - It really honestly, I really feel it right now. It really is. I feel incredibly, it's at a time when the business is tricky

and things are going way and there's contraction, and the fact that I, I'm currently getting

to make a bunch of different things, is, it feels amazing.

Like, and, and we're, I'm writing right now, we're writing 100% here in LA, and, and it's me, I mean, it's Lucas. - Jesus, Jesus, I mean, it's a bear, and it's in the world of kind of like self help, influencer, gurus,

is, so we're writing that, we're gonna shoot over the summer, and that's, and, and then I've producing some other stuff,

What, the strategy you're talking about, Jesus,

and I have, I have two kids, I got two, I have a five-year-old, and a two-and-a-half-year-old, and so that's the stuff that starts to play into like, how do we, how do I do this, and how do I be, be also, like, home and around and involved, so that, so the opportunities, like, it's like,

how can I set myself up as well as I can for opportunities that I get to, some have some modicum of control over, like, where, and be, and be in Los Angeles, too.

“- Yeah, that's, I mean, right, that's, and that's what's,”

- Right now, they can travel with you, but assume that five-year-old is gonna be stuck in school, and you won't be able to pop around. - He doesn't wanna be, if it's any consolation, he doesn't wanna be in school, so we must, - 'Cause he wanna be called, 'cause he wanna be home school,

there's just like, he wants to hide, - He just wants to do, you know what I mean? - That's what he does, that's what he does. - That's free, he likes to free, so, though, he saw that free solo dog, and he just wants to go pop out there.

- This is a, that's very dangerous, dig for a chance. - No, no, no, no, no, we gotta let them,

but we gotta let, it's lucrative, you can first,

you can get that, you can Jason knows, you gotta get to work. Gotta get you, Jason, y'all, y'all. - So Nick, what you, so, speaking about it, when you, you grew up, conservative Jewish, and conservative Jewish, kosher household,

so no, dishes for, you separate dishes for meat and dairy, so, but I read that you had one junk food day a year, growing up with you and eat. And, and then, what was the other thing I read about food that you did?

- Oh, that, you fall asleep listening to a hypnotherapy tape, telling you not to eat snacks? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I went to a hypnotherapist, did it work? - To quit smoking, we all, you guys all went to,

fuck and carry Gainer at some point, right? You ever go to carry Gainer to quit smoking? - Nobody can cure me. - I just, I Samantha, nobody can cure me. (laughing)

- She's my enemy. - I'm unstoppable. - I don't know if there's nothing. There'll come between me and my darts. - I would love to see that Western,

a little spaghetti Western of you versus a cigarette, and a standoff of you. - No, we're on the same team, we're not against each other. - Listen, listening to those tapes at night,

was just back in the day one, we were told that you could learn languages from just listening to the people speak to you. - Yeah, it was, this was, well, I went to Carrie Gainer and he was like, you know, you go to his garage in Santa Monica,

and there's like a sun-fated picture of Catherine Hygel. (laughing) - She was here at some point. (laughing) - And we think, we hope.

- And so I used him to quit smoking, and then I got this woman from the Deepak Chopra Institute, and it was like, this woman, she called me, and she, I talked to her about snacks, and then she, like, my, 'cause I just was,

“you know, like, we, it's gotta go somewhere, right?”

It's gotta go fucking go somewhere, so if you can't smoke cigarettes, like give me some goddamn, like, you know, sour patch kids, give me some fucking shit. - Right, right. - It's on the same way.

- Oh, she just, she just recommending snacks, what does she, she would put, so she would make the snacks, she would be like, she would make the snacks, she's like, "What do you find disgusting?"

- And, again, using the Germans different versions. I can turn that up, like, five different levels, and I got a couple different macromortes to it on it. - Do you find, do you find poop videos disgusting? - People ask a question.

- You're like, I think I got the wrong number. - So, but you would equate something like, maggots are disgusting.

- So, imagine that you're basically,

imagine that you're jelly bellies are maggots, and they are going to, you know, it's in my standard, I do it, I can't remember any jokes anymore. - But anyway, so I would listen to it when I go to bed, and it's worked for a while,

but now, God damn it, I want to eat chocolate pretzels, oh yeah, of course. - So, what if you just cut out the weed? You know, if you cut out the weed, then you're not good to get snacky at night.

- Ooh, we cut out the weed, we cut out the weed. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I got to be able to relate my friends. (laughing)

“- The last thing that I think is really fascinating”

that I did not know is Harry Styles, helped you plan your proposal to your wife, Lily. - Yeah, that's great. - That's great, Styles found. - How did that happen?

- We were making that movie "Don't Worry Darling," and which I think is most famous for the movie. And... (laughing) - It was the height of COVID.

- Tell you, what that'll live you while it knows how to direct a film. - She sure does. - She sure does. - She sure does. - She sure does. - She sure does.

- Truly, she directs it, and I played her husband in the movie, and so it was really fun to act with her. Like, I mean, you guys, like, when you sometimes when you act with someone directing, you know, it's different levels,

and she was great, anyway. - So, yeah. - So, it was the height of COVID, and I was proposing to my wife, we were,

We were at the, we were doing the table read, and that we were all hanging out, and I was sort of figuring out,

“and we'd just, my wife and I'd just move into our new house,”

and so I, like, you know, I had a box, and I was like, can you just move this last box, and she was like, can you have a fucking, you know what I mean, like, you're gonna make me move the fucking box, like, you know, and I was like, I don't know, Harry.

So, no, she opened the box, there's a bunch of flowers in the ring, but Harry, and then he checked in with me to be like, how to go? So, I told him, basically, before I spoke to like, we spoke to our families to let them know,

so we were married, 'cause he was just, had been checking in. - That's so cool, that's so cool, what a story. - I mean, it's really, really cool. - Sweet, sweet boy, sweet boy. - Yeah.

- Nicole, it's, you are a pleasure. - Yeah, no way, I can't believe how funny this hour went.

It's been never, it's a risk for it.

- I just wanna say, I, I, I, I, I've loved so many things that you've done, three, two, three, four, - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Well, I just watched the little big boy. - Yeah, yeah, I loved the little boy.

- I loved the little boy, so fucking funny.

“- And then-- - And where are you from, large one, is that where you were?”

(laughing) - You know, and then, of course, a caveman. - Of course, I thought that was one of the funniest shows I'd ever seen, and it was six, six episodes. - We're going to catch up with Will and Josh.

- Will and Josh, you guys have just done Blades of Glory. - Yes, and then they, I was in four hours of prosthetics. That was my first job. I was in four hours of prosthetics every morning to be one of the caveman funny.

- But it wasn't in the commercials, and they, everyone hated the show, they loved the commercials. - Right. - Everyone was like, I loved the show.

- The critics hated the show, but what I always took

solos and was that the public hated it as well. We got canceled, we shot 13, I was in press four hours every morning, it was my first job, and it was the worst job. And perfect first, you know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- I think fucking God. There's no way I could have done it later in my life. - So it's so funny that you like that show. - I love that show, and then publicity, of course. - Yeah, I'm a publicity.

- You as Liz, hey, Jay, have you ever seen him play Liz from publicity, I'm from the, from the Crawl Show? I'm gonna send you a bunch of clips. It's running last like every, yeah, you, it's, you've dealt with, you've dealt with.

- I mean, as a gay guy, it's like, I've killed a playlist. - I mean, yeah, thank you. - Thank you. - Well, we want more Nick Crawl, yeah, no kidding. - Yeah, everything and anything.

- I'm stoked for your new, I'm stoked for your new show. - Jay, how much fun you had today, as Liz? - Oh, my guy, you guys, in on this podcast, you, one of the most coveted slots. (laughing)

- Publicity, it's just a cure, a sign. (laughing) Spotify, top 20, apple, top 20. (laughing) The camaraderie, the friendship, the absolute money grab

that this, (laughing) for everybody involved. (laughing) - I love honor to be whole. (laughing)

- And to be held by guys, thank you guys. - Thank you, Nick, love you today. - Thank you, Nick. - Thank you, Nick. - Good to see you guys.

- Thanks for having me. - Thanks for having me. - Thank you for having me. - You too. - Thanks guys.

- Bye, buddy. - Bye. - That's funny, funny, funny Nick Crawl, yeah. - Yeah, it's so funny, and I love that he showed up to play, and he, I mean, he's so...

- Always, he's always ready to play.

- Yeah, he's, I'm, look, clearly he's got 80,000 things going on. - But well, how great are these interviews when they feel like five minutes and I know, you never, you never get to your questions, you know, because the conversation's so good.

- That was so, that was so quick. - He's a good fellow, that guy. I do send me some of that stuff. - I will, and then I'll bet all go down to you too soon. - Do send me some of that.

- Do send those bits right after my toilet. - Yeah, he's in full drag as Liz, it's funny. I mean, the balls the guy has, just to do, and... - Well, show, there was so many amazing sketches on the show. - Amazing sketches, yeah, it's nice.

- Yeah, I should probably. - But he did have, he said he did play that one character. - Here it is. - Yeah, yeah, the teacher from us, sit down and shut up, yeah.

“What was the thing you remember about that teacher,”

fuck, here we go, are you ready? - Yeah, the character was, bye. - Bye, sexual. - Bye. - Bye. - Smart.

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