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“Do you remember that there was a gigantic oil spill in our country that happened in 2010?”
It was in the Gulf of Mexico, off the Louisiana coast. It was just a pucalyptic. You will remember these images, right? The explosion, the plumes of fire and smoke, just this massive, massive, completely out of control fire on board this drilling rig out there 40 miles off the coast in Louisiana. 11 men died when that rig blew up.
And then after it blew up and burned for a solid day, that huge oil rig, that drilling
rig sunk to the bottom of the sea.
But that was only the start of the disaster, because they couldn't stop the oil spewing out of the well that rig had been drilling. Remember, there was literally a live feed we could all watch from the broken wellhead. You could watch the oil spewing out from this hole in the seafloor. This hole they had drilled and then they couldn't handle it.
And that oil spewed for three months, millions of barrels of oil spewed out of that well and into the sea. And they just had no plan for how to stop it.
“You might remember they tried something called junk shots, which sounds dirty and it was”
but different than how you're thinking about it.
The junk shot was or they literally shot junk into the top of the well to try to clog it up with anything they could find. They used, I'm not kidding, golf balls and pieces of plastic and pieces of old tires and nodded up, hunks of rope, they just flung them at the spewing oil well. Thinking that might stop it.
When nobody could believe that this was the big idea that this was the level of technological prowess, the most profitable industry on earth was bringing to bear on this ongoing disaster, they had caused and couldn't stop. Some people were like seriously golf balls as your idea, torn up bits of tire. The company then changed the language.
They were using to talk about their efforts to stop the spewing oil well. They stopped talking so much about the junk shots, they instead started to insisting they would do something they called a top kill, which sounds way cooler, way more technologically advanced, way less desperate and random than a junk shot, but it was still the same result. Still the same kind of strategy that like the characters from South Park might dream up
to try to stop an oil spill, but the junk shots and the top kills did not work, they tried a whole bunch of times, it did not work. Then they decided they would just dump tons of chemicals in the water, they wouldn't say what the chemicals were, they called them dispersants though and the idea was that they would just dump these mystery chemicals into the ocean in huge amounts, these dispersants
and hopefully that would make the oil, the disperse, go away oil, disperse. And that didn't work either, it was just disgusting and toxic and it wreaked havoc. I'm not just everything in the ocean, but in the whole fishery and those coastal Louisiana towns and the whole region of South East Louisiana and Barataria Bay, I remember reporting down there in 2010 and being nauseous from breathing the sea breeze, which is a thing that
will mess up your head both in the moment when it happens and for a very long time after. That disaster happened, as I said in 2010, that was the worst oil spill disaster in U.S. history. There was supposed to be a blowout preventer to prevent this underwater blowout, turns out the blowout preventer did not work to prevent blowouts. There was supposed to be a bullet proof, proof, multiple redundancies, comprehensive emergency
plan in case of any type of accident, but the emergency plan was ridiculous. This was again in the Gulf of Mexico off the coast of Louisiana, but the emergency response plan specifically for a spill at that site called for rescuing the walruses. Walruses live on sea ice, like polar bears. There are no walruses in the Louisiana, but nevertheless that was part of their emergency response plan that was supposedly specifically
“designed for this location. You might also remember that that emergency response plan had”
a call list, like who to call in case of a disaster in case of a spill and the call list was like people who had died years prior to that emergency response plan being produced.
It was just just an utter failure, just a comprehensive disaster.
You remember what that disaster was called? What the rig was called, that blew up?
“It was the deep water horizon. It was called that because that drilling disaster happened”
in really deep water. In 5,000 feet of water. 5,000 feet of water, the pressure is incredible.
The temperatures are incredible. We, as humans, have basically as little experience operating
in that kind of an extreme environment as we do operating in space. That deep water horizon disaster, 5,000 feet down. It was sort of living proof, living terrifying toxic fatal proof that even though the oil companies say they're great at doing stuff like that, they're actually not. The overall cleanup and compensation costs for deep water horizon topped out at something like 65 billion dollars. BP was held responsible for the disaster
not only in court, but also in Congress, where they basically had to prostrate themselves
“and apologize for all they had done. Deep water horizon, deep water horizon, worst oil”
spill disaster in US history, happened in 5,000 feet of water. This past Friday, late in the
day, very quietly, the Trump administration announced that it has approved a new ultra-deep water drilling project. Unlike the deep water horizon, which was at 5,000 feet, this new ultra-deep water project that they just approved will be at more like 6,000 feet. But don't worry, the deep water horizon company that botched the 5,000 foot drilling and killed all those people and ravaged that whole part of Louisiana and they couldn't shut it
off for three months and it made us at least thank God Barack Obama was in charge and he had a Nobel Prize-winning physicist Stephen Chu is energy secretary because at least that energy secretary could personally do the calculations and the scientific work to try to help get the blowout shut down. Now the bad guy in that story, the totally reckless company that said could do that drilling safely, but they absolutely couldn't. That said they had an emergency plan,
but they didn't really, that said they had a cleanup plan, but I saw it with my own eyes that they
“did not, that had a blowout preventer that did not prevent blowouts. That company you'll remember”
was BP, BP, right? Well, this time don't worry. The company that the Trump administration has just given permission to do ultra-deep water drilling in the same place, off the coast of Louisiana, don't worry. This time the company doing it is going to be BP. They've given the drilling rights to BP, same company, because it worked out great last time. Also, don't worry as the New York Times notes and it's reporting on this new award from the Trump administration,
don't worry. The emergency plan, this time from BP for the ultra-deep water drilling,
their emergency plan this time is still basically the same emergency plan that they had
when the deep water horizon blew up in 2010. The plan is still, as the New York Times notes, quote, "Dispersence." Chemical Dispersence. Once again, that'll be the plan. It'll be fine. It'll all be fine. No word on if they're still going to focus on, you know, finding tropical walversus, in case anything goes wrong. No word on if they're still going to try to call the old dead guys as their emergency contacts. The other reason not to worry, of course, is that this
time instead of Barack Obama being president and this being the Obama administration responding, this time, the president and the administration telling BP to go for it, watch out Louisiana, here they come. This time, it's not Barack Obama. In the Obama administration, it's Donald Trump and the Trump administration, where needless to say the energy secretary is not, no-bell prize-winning physicist Steven Chu, this time under Donald Trump, it's this guy who last week announced on Twitter that,
"Hey, great news, everybody. The U.S. Navy has started escorting oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz." He announced that publicly when the U.S. Navy was absolutely not doing that. And the markets went up, up, up, up, up, up. And the price of oil went down down down down down, and then Trump's genius energy secretary deleted that tweet with no comment. And so then the markets went down down and the oil price went up, up because this is the level of genius and
competence we are dealing with at the helm as an arsonist mad king president sets the world on fire. That same energy secretary also on Friday announced that thanks to the emergency president Donald
Trump has declared.
water drilling contract given or permission given to BP. Trump administration has also
“ordered the restarting of a particular pipeline in southern California. This is a pipeline that”
has not been operational for more than a decade, and why has it not been operational for more than a decade? Well, because this is what it looked like the last time that pipeline was operational. When it broke open and was spewing oil uncontrollably in one of the worst California oil spills of all time affecting roughly 100 miles of the state's coastline and ocean. Trump administration is now trying to force the re-opening of that pipeline. The last time
it was an operation, it barfed oil all over southern California. They say it's fully repaired now.
So we'll see, I guess, and the Trump administration has just told BP of all companies. They've told BP
to go right ahead with a new ultra-deep water horizon because nobody remembers what happened last time. Right? That was fine. Worked out, okay. Walvers is seem okay. When Trump's energy secretary Chris Wright tweeted out that the U.S. Navy was escorting ships through the straight-of-four
“moves when, in fact, we weren't. Did he think they were? Did somebody tell him that we were?”
Did he have a good reason to believe it? When he did that, that wasn't even the start of how well the Trump administration is handling this teensy little problem. Trump reportedly thought would be no big deal, and he decided to launch an unprovoked war on Iran. Trump reportedly
told his advisors that he did not believe Iran would close the straight-of-war moves if he attacked
Iran. Of course, Iran did. Then Trump's defense secretary said the straight-of-war moves was open for transit except for the small matter of the Iranians attacking ships that tried to pass through it other than that, Mrs. Lincoln. Then Trump told Fox News that ship captain should quote show some guts and just sail through the straight because they had nothing to fear because Iran was defeated and wouldn't attack any more ships in the straight-of-harmos, and then Iran
attacked more ships in the straight-of-harmos. And then Trump said that the U.S. Navy would be happy, soon, very soon, to start escorting ships through the straight-of-harmos, and then the Navy was like, "No, my Lord, no, we cannot do that." The memorable phrase there was that it would be a "killbox" for the United States Navy if they even tried to do that. Then in advance of a presidential press conference today, Trump administration sources apparently told reporters that
very soon, very soon, the U.S. government would be announcing a coalition of allies who would be working together to escort ships through the straight-of-war moves. We were about to announce who our allies were going to be in this joint collective effort. And everybody printed it like that meant it was going to happen. When will you learn? Watch what they do, not what they say. Because then the president held that presidential press conference, and he announced,
quote, "We don't need anybody." To help us in the straight-of-harmos, we don't need anybody. We can do it ourselves. Then he said that he'd be announcing very soon, who, nevertheless, was going to be helping us in the straight-of-harmos. Then he berated and insulted our allies for not doing anything to help us in the straight-of-harmos, and then reporters all over the world started checking with their own governments. And indeed, whatever he thought he was
announcing about other countries coming to help us in the straight-of-harmos, nobody is coming to help.
“And in fact, he can't do it alone. And so, what do we got? Maybe we'll get a ballroom?”
Russia's doing really well out of all this. As the skyrocketing price of oil fills up the cremlands coffers and makes them solvent again after all these years of dictatorship and corruption and foregoing on five years of their disastrous war in Ukraine, Russia now is not just getting a rich off of Trump's war in Iran. Russia is outright helping Iran kill U.S. troops. And target U.S. facilities in the Middle East. Trump's U.S. ambassador to the United Nations,
Mike Waltz says Russia has a wartime quote, strategic partnership with Iran. Iranian officials have publicly confirmed that they have Russia's quote, "military cooperation." We reported last week here on this show that Trump had responded to that by really making Russia pay. Oh, I'm sorry, no by relaxing U.S. sanctions on Russia. Since then, he's done so again. He has further relieved Russia of the burden of U.S. sanctions.
While Russia is helping kill American troops.
But it doesn't stop there. David Korn at Mother Jones Magazine reports that Trump's DOJ
“has also very quietly just chosen this auspicious time while we're at war with Iran.”
They've just chosen now to ask the courts to withdraw a guilty plea and reverse a prison sentence that was given to a guy who the FBI said is linked to Russian intelligence. The guy has been in jail because he pled guilty to lying to the FBI, specifically to bringing the FBI fake stories about President Biden supposedly taking bribes. The FBI concluded not only that those stories were false, but that this guy deliberately lied in bringing that stuff to the FBI,
and that he was linked to Russian intelligence at the time he was doing this.
Now, Trump's Justice Department is trying to get the guy sprung and get his guilty plea reversed.
The core filing in this guy's case has been signed by Todd Blanche, Trump's hand-picked number two official at the Justice Department. Trying to help Russia and reportedly Russian intelligence, while Russia is using Russian intelligence to help Iran kill American troops and target American facilities in the Middle East. I mean, maybe our President just can't stop himself from acting to help Russia. Even when
Russia is acting to kill Americans, maybe just can't stop himself. It just feels so good. He can't stop. But does it seem like, in the middle of this war, he should be able to stop himself from at least helping Iran, from helping the Iranian regime, which he has just declared war on? Because also, quietly, amid this inexplicable war on Iran, Trump's Justice Department has also just moved to drop the largest Iranian sanctions case ever in history. This is a case involving
a bank, a bank called Huckbank there, being prosecuted for, again, the largest ever-known violation of sanctions on the Iranian regime for illegally sending tens of billions of dollars to Iran.
“That's what that prosecution is about. And in the middle of Trump waging war on Iran, bombing”
Iran supposedly because he's so opposed to the Iranian regime, Trump now simultaneously has had his Justice Department drop that case, the largest Iranian sanctions case ever. Because now, suddenly, he wants to let all that slide. It's almost like he's not really doing things
for the reason he says he's doing them, right? So the Saudis paid $2 billion to Trump's
son and law, Jared. And now, Jared is the U.S. government's point person in the Middle East. The New York Times now reports that while Jared is serving as the U.S. government's point person in the Middle East, Jared is simultaneously asking the Saudis for yet more billions of dollars for his private business, more than $2 billion they've already given him now he wants more. You know, why would they say no? For the low-low price of what they've already given him, the Saudis have
apparently discovered the price of renting out something called the Armed Forces of the United States of America to attack their rival nation, Iran. For a war that makes a lot of sense for the leaders of Saudi Arabia and Israel, but makes no sense at all for the United States. The New York Times reports this weekend that the Saudi Crown Prince and B.S. Muhammad Insolman has been on the phone frequently with President Trump since the war started telling him
to keep bombing, keep quoting hitting the Iranians hard. Keep up, keep it up, more of this war. We paid for it, we're going to get what we paid for. I kind of say I don't know why this isn't more of a show-stopping scandal in our country, right? Is it that hard to see what this is? I mean, here's this guy actively asking X-country for money. They've already given him billions of dollars. He's asking for billions more dollars for his personal business, his private business.
He's asking X-country for money. At the same time, he's asking them for money. He's also making
“US government policy toward that country. That's it, right? Those are all the dots you have to”
connect. I mean, this is not like string theory, right? The result, I mean, if this guy's asking this country for money for himself, while also making US government policy toward that country, the resultant policy is likely to be whatever that country wants it to be, because if it isn't, then Jared's going to be less likely to get the money that he is asking them for, right? The interests of the United States are being exchanged for private income for the president's
Son-in-law.
All right, well, we're all wondering why it is really that we're fighting this war they can't explain?
“I mean, for his part, the president's son-in-law says he's following the law and following ethics”
rules, but how would we know? They also aren't even making him file financial disclosures. And Russia helps kill American service members and gets paid for it by the Trump administration, and don't worry, BP will get new oil for us from the molten center of the earth, because look, they built something with duct tape. They say, well, work to drill it all up, and the tropical walruses will junk shop the thing for us if anything goes wrong, so we'll all be fine.
Meanwhile, this is the most unpopular war in modern American history. The president is trying to manage that by today threatening to execute, threatening to kill reporters who don't report on the war the way he wants them to. That'll fix it. That'll fix it. Maybe he'll take a page from Putin and tell us we're no longer allowed to call it a war. We all have to start calling it an excursion, like he does or we'll all go to jail or he'll kill us all. Sure, that'll do it.
The war is unlikely to get more popular in days ahead as Trump's repeated declarations of victory have not proven to be enough to protect U.S. forces and facilities that have come under fire from Iran and their proxies, a U.S. facility in Bahrain, the U.S. facility in Kuwait, the U.S. embassy in Iraq, the U.S. facilities in Saudi Arabia. We weren't even capable of keeping our ally Kuwait from accidentally shooting down not one not two but three of our F-15 fighter jets
on the first full day of the war. How was Kuwait able to shoot down three F-15's?
Now we're sending in a marine expeditionary force. As the president refuses to rule out boots on
“the ground, refuses to rule out ground troops. That's how he's doing internationally. How's he”
doing here at home? Well, he's on a remarkable, remarkable hot, hot, hot losing streak in the courts right now. Just tonight, a federal court in Massachusetts has blocked all the changes that Trump helped Secretary Robert of Kennedy Jr. made to the childhood immunization schedule. All the stuff that RFK tried to do to vaccines, the judge has blocked it. RFK fired. He'll recall all the experts on the vaccine advisory panel and replace them with everybody in the star wars bar scene. The judge
tonight blocked those appointments and then blocked the implementation of all the votes taken
by that group, by that actively quacking collection of odd ducks that RFK put in that crucial
crucial panel. This comes on the heels of another federal judge ordering Trump's VA secretary to restore union rights. The union rights he just stripped from more than 300,000 people who work
“at the VA. This comes as another federal judge has just blocked Trump from stripping”
Somali Americans of their right to be in this country under temporary protected status. This comes as Trump's justice department has just had to tuck its tail between its legs and drop their effort to prosecute a U.S. Army veteran who burned a flag in protest of Trump's unconstitutional executive order that says he decrees you are no longer allowed to build a flag in this country
first amendment be damned. This comes as another court has just blocked the Trump administration's
unlawful attempt to dismantle the U.S. African Development Foundation. This comes as just another court has blocked the Trump administration's unlawful attempt to dismantle the U.S. agency for global media and voice of America and to appoint election denier Carrie Lake to tear it all down. This comes as Trump tries to shut down and potentially tear down the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, but Congresswoman Joyce Batie, Democratic Congresswoman Joyce Batie, has pledged to
defend that institution with all she's got. Trump can brag all he wants about what he is going to do to the Kennedy Center, but Congresswoman Joyce Batie has gone to the courts to block Trump from closing it or demolishing it or changing it and those motions are pending and we shall see. We're going to talk tonight about the disaster that is unfolding at the Department of Homeland Security on everything from tornado monitoring to the TSA, but the Atlantic reports tonight
that the whole plan, the whole Trump administration plan, to open a big new network of massive Trump prison camps all over the country to hold tens of thousands of people indefinitely without trial. That whole plan may now be in jeopardy as Trump has now fired Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Nome because apparently it was her plan. And on top of that we've got another federal court, this one in Maryland, which is now issued every straining order, stopping all work on
One of these warehouse-trumped prison camps, this one in Williamsport, Maryla...
a site where Trump wanted to start locking people up as soon as next month, but construction
“there now is shut down by court order and the whole warehouse mass-trumped prison camp plan”
may be circling the drain anyway. One, plucky Homeland Security official telling the Atlantic tonight that if they can't get these Trump black site prisons open and any of these warehouse sites they've bought, those sites might, quote, remain useful as federal properties that can be converted into office space or training facilities. Sure, office space. Sure, excellent. It is 14 months since Donald Trump has been back in office. It is 17 days since he started this
catastrophic war in Iran. Democratic U.S. Senator Cory Booker is here next live to talk about plans in Congress plans in the Senate to stop him in this war. We got lots to get to tonight, stay with us. As President Trump continues implementing his ambitious agenda, follow along with the MSNL Newsletter Project 47. You'll get weekly updates and straight to your inbox with expert analysis on the administration's latest actions and how they're affecting
the American people. American people are basically telling the president that they are not okay
with any of this. Sign up for the Project 47 Newsletter at MS.now/project 47. Since the beginning of President Donald Trump's unprovoked war of choice against Iran, a group of Democratic senators have been calling for a vote that would force the president to get sign off from Congress for what he's doing. And they've now filed not one, but a whole wave of war powers resolutions. Even if these resolutions fail one by one, these Senate
Democrats say they're going to force the whole Senate, including Republicans in the Senate, to vote on this wildly unpopular and inexplicable war over and over and over again. And, implicitly, that means they will grind down the business of the Senate in the meantime in order to force these votes. They want a public accounting of why this war was supposedly necessary, what its objectives supposedly are, and when it will end. Joining us now is Senator
“Cory Booker, Democrat of New Jersey. Remember the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. It's one of the”
Democrats demanding the Senate vote on the war, calling for public hearings with top Trump officials. Senator, it's really nice to take time to be here tonight. Thank you. Thanks for having me on. Appreciate you. Great job. So tell our audience what a war powers resolution is functionally, especially now that Trump is on his own terms, you know, latterly started this war 18 days ago.
Well, going to war is a really significant act constitutionally, and because it's so significant years past, they put in a lot of laws and levers to make sure that no president could do what Donald Trump is doing. And so it's what's called a privilege resolution, which we have the right to bring it to the floor. And to me, it's absolutely astounding and absurd that this Senate is not doing its job of providing checks and balances oversight and accountability to an out-of-control
executive who already has made American lives in such crisis, reckless terrorist driving up costs, cutting trillions, because it would be hundreds of billions of dollars from our health care, driving millions of Americans off of health care. Americans are seeing a cost crisis like you wouldn't believe. And then what does Donald Trump do after cutting school lunches and cutting
veterans benefits, he begins to spend a billion dollars a day on his war of choice. And not only
those costs, but he's driving up energy and oil costs and perhaps the most tragic cost of all 200 Americans injured, 13 Americans dead. And so how could the Senate be doing nothing? We want to force the debate, the discussion, and the hearings. So when you say these are these are privileged resolutions, that means that effectively regardless of what the Republican leadership in the Senate wants, these have to come up. These have to be put to the floor. There has to be these things have to
be contended with. You and Senator Keynes, Senator Murphy, Senator Baldwin, Senator Schiff, have all filed these war powers resolutions. Why do multiple of them is the idea to take up lots of Senate time? What should we expect in terms of what this does with the other business of the Senate,
“when this will all unfold? What are they going to have to contend with you guys?”
Yeah, look, I've been having just trying to make it clear to my colleagues and to others who will listen to me that we can no longer have a Senate that is acting as if nothing is wrong,
That we're not in a constitutional crisis, that Americans aren't struggling w...
costs. We have to do something different. This war adds not only to the costs, but it also
“makes us less safe at home and abroad. And so this to me was an obvious lever after talking to a”
lot of my colleagues about Tim Kane doing this repeatedly. We all agree that this is the very time that we should be driving Americans' focus, really what they want us to be debating and what they want us to be discussing are the issues that are directly impacting them, which is a war, obviously driving up their costs, taking billions of dollars of taxpayer money, and frankly, not focusing on the crises that Americans are having right now with harder to make ends meet
and losing millions, losing their health care, losing their hospitals, losing their health clinics. What's your reaction to the president today insulting, denigrating, mocking, sort of dragging our allies for not joining some sort of effort that he wants to lead or something that he wants to do in the straight-of-formers. He's simultaneously saying, "literally, we don't need anybody," and also saying that U.S. allies are terrible and untrustworthy and we don't
need them because they should be joining us in the straight-of-formers. What's your reaction to
“the president's remarks on that today? I think what we're witnessing here is a most monumental”
strategic stupidity exhibited by any president in our lifetime. I mean, utterly outrageous that he is at one time begging people to come help him with the mess that he created, causing the worst oil shock we have seen in our lifetime. Begging people to help, and then when they're not racing to help him after he's already unleashed chaotic tariffs on them, after he's already
insulted them before, demeaning to grain them, didn't go America first, went America alone,
and really undermined all of our alliances. Now he's even going further. This is a president says, "I don't need your help, please help me. I don't need your help, please help me." All the while we're seeing this whole world really feeling the shocks of this war, and from regions as I talk to ambassadors and other leaders from Asia to Europe, they can't believe that we're baking these strategic
“blunders. In the war in Ukraine, we're making Russia stronger, pouring literally millions and”
millions of dollars into their coffers, as they're getting stronger in their fight against Ukraine, as they help Iran target their missiles in their drones. We have crises in Asia and concerns in Asia like China and their possible intervention in Taiwan, and now we see our Asian allies saying wait a minute, we're pulling resources away from that region all for Donald Trump's folly in his going to war, in a war that does not have an endgame, especially not one without American
troops, which he won't pull off the table. That is what's crazy about this man right now, is that he's out of control. But what is worse, the strategic blunder after blunder that he's making, or Republicans in the United States Senate, who watch him and don't even call his administration in for hearings. No checks, no balances, no accountability. This is outrageous and it has to stop. Senator Cory Booker, Democrat of New Jersey, sir, it's really kind of you to
make time to be here tonight. Thank you so much. Thank you Rachel for focusing everybody on this outreach. Thanks. Yeah, absolutely. I've got to say I hear when the senator says talking about this is a strategic blunder, it really does feel like somebody who has burnt the bridge, right, burnt the bridge to where he lives and is now angrily standing on the far side of where the bridge is to be like angrily demanding or right home. Like my dude, you're the one who
blew up the bridge. Anyway, we got much more news ahead here tonight, stay with us. As President Trump continues implementing his ambitious agenda, follow along with the MSNow News Letter Project 47. You'll get weekly updates and straight to your inbox with expert analysis on the administration's latest actions and how they're affecting the American people. The American people are basically telling the President that they are not okay with any of this.
Sign up for the Project 47 News Letter at MS.now/project 47. Dozens of tornadoes hit the Midwest and the planes starting about 10 days ago, at least eight people were killed, homes and buildings were destroyed across multiple states. We that learned that chaos and incompetence inside the Trump administration, specifically inside the Department of Homeland Security, may have hampered the federal response
to those terrible and fatal storms. Here's some remarkable reporting on this from CNN.
Headline, rescuers were flying blind. Inside the crucial $200,000 contract,
Kristi Nome's team let lapse.
stayed in local search and rescue crews rushed to the devastated areas to look for survivors.
“It wasn't until the teams deployed that they realized they were operating without a critical”
tornado tracking tool that's typically provided by FEMA. That mapping tool pinpoints a tornado's path of destruction within minutes of touchdown. That helps responders focus on the hardest hit neighborhoods as quickly as possible. Even in storms where FEMA itself doesn't respond, state and local rescuers rely on this mapping tool which is provided to them through FEMA. But it wasn't available this time for the storms last week because FEMA's roughly $200,000
contract with the company that provides that data, that contract expired last month. And the agencies request to renew that contract was still moving through Homeland Security
Secretary Kristi Nome's strict spending approval process. Again, that reporting from CNN,
I will tell you that we contacted the Department of Homeland Security about this tonight.
“A FEMA spokesperson tells us that that tornado mapping tool is up and running now.”
Oh, now it is now. A well-old machine, our current Department of Homeland Security. But Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Nome has been fired. She's out of the agency by the end of this month. President Trump fired her one day after she testified in front of Congress earlier this month on the basis of that testimony. Congressional 10 McCrott say Kristi Nome repeatedly lied
to the House and Senate Judiciary committees. Democrats as of today have asked Trump's Justice Department to investigate her for perjury based on that testimony. After all, even President Trump has said her testimony under oath was false. We'll not be holding our breath for Trump's Justice Department to be leaping on that prosecution, but the request has been made. We also learned today that another person exiting
the Department of Homeland Security this month will be this man Greg Bavino, the small man big truck complex border patrol commander who was relieved of his role leading Trump's immigration crackdown after two U.S. citizens were shot to death by immigration agents in Minneapolis in an operation that he led. Those killings sparked such outrage that Democrats in Congress actually put their foot down and demanded reforms to Homeland Security Federal agents.
Republicans have refused those reforms that has led to a funding shutdown at the Department of Homeland Security which among other things is causing long and unpredictable security lines and chaos out of America's airports. It is now worsening every day. And if you are excited by what the Trump Homeland Security Department has been able to do with, I don't know, immigration enforcement and disaster response and air travel, just wait till you see what they're going to do with our
elections. The Atlantic first reported an MSNow has confirmed that in Arizona, it's not just the
Justice Department that has been following Trump's lead in menacing and investigating elections officials and elections results from 2020. It is now the Department of Homeland Security that has done that. Homeland Security investigations under the purview of DHS is now bothering elections officials and saying they're investigating the 2020 election in Arizona. Because they're handling
“so much else so well, why not put them on the elections beat as well. Right? What could possibly go wrong?”
I've got more head on this. Stay with us tonight. Hold that thought. Date line, El Paso, Texas, guards at Camp East Montana developed a pattern of driving detainees to the Mexico border, telling them to walk across and allegedly beating those who refused. Some detainees were also able to escape the facility, which faced a host of other challenges, including a cluster of three deaths in a 45-day period. The issues plaguing this camp,
the nation's largest immigration detention center, have gotten so bad that they've contributed to a strategic pivot. The Trump administration has made away from relying on similar facilities. As reporting from the Wall Street Journal under the headline, how ISIS's largest detention facility unraveled. It comes amid news that this chaos at the largest prison camp, the Trump administration has already been operating, might be a sort of canary in a coal mine.
For the overall effort, the Trump administration has been working on to try to build Trump new network of huge, Trump prison camps to imprison people without trial all over the country. Joining us now is Wall Street Journal reporter Michelle Hackman, she at the Journal has really been at the forefront of reporting out the pandemonium of various kinds of the Department of Homeland Security. Ms. Hackman, I really appreciate you making time to be here with us tonight.
Thank you.
question about what's been happening at Homeland Security. It's obviously a bit of a bear structurally and has been since it was created. It's such a large sprawling agency with so many different functions wrapped up in all the myriad agencies that are under its umbrella. Why did Trump fire Christy Nome? Is there something about her tenure that has been particularly difficult for an agency this complex and important? Yeah, we've been hearing for months that the
White House has been an increasingly frustrated with Christy Nome because she was kind of running her own feet from there and this White House, we know, is very controlling over cabinet secretaries. They want to have ultimate control of her policy over personnel and they felt like she was being uncooperative with them and in addition to that that she was starting to be embarrassing to them when
stories like ours about her firing a pilot over a blanket or trying to purchase a $70 million
luxury jet for herself started to come out. I guess you just sort of politely called the management issues that have been described that seem to have had really serious real world consequences. This policy that she said where anything over a hundred thousand dollars has to come through her personally and it sits on her desk until she has time to get to it. CNN had this dramatic reporting this weekend that that has resulted that resulted among other things in tornado mapping technology
not being available to FEMA responders who were actively responding to tornadoes that had been fatal on the ground in multiple states. Those kinds of problems were those unique to Christy Nome is that something that she and Cori Lundowski presumably invented or that's something that predated her at DHS? No, with this $100,000 sign off is definitely a Christy Nome,
“Cori Lundowski special. They instituted a couple months into their tenure, no explanation. Why?”
And it really created this huge backlog that CNN's story showing that FEMA didn't have this tornado spotting technology is a really stark example, but there were ways that they were actually getting in the way of the Trump agenda too. I mean, they were holding up wall contracts, actually slowing down the building of Trump's border wall, which was extremely embarrassing for them when that came out. They actually for months held up by accident, totally by accident,
held up a contract that basically processes all of Trump's tariff payments, another huge
Trump policy. That almost latched. He signed it basically a day before it expired. Well, we've pretty intensely covered on this show. The the the the the the vociferous reaction around the country, even in very conservative parts of the country, to these plans to put these huge Trump prison camps, these big warehouse sites converted into prisons to hold, you know, 8,000, 10,000 potentially even more people,
opposition to that all over the country, including from otherwise Trump supporting Republicans, is this another policy that the administration brought there, that the White House sees as a Christy Nome Cori Lundowski special. It seems like it's causing them a lot of political problems, it also seems like it's logistically way more than they might have thought they were contending with.
“It's interesting Rachel. I think the administration actually is is in favor of this warehouse”
strategy of buying these massive warehouses that are sort of meant for Amazon packages and instead turning them into places to hold, you know, 8 or 10,000 immigrants. The problem in the view of
the White House and people at DHS was basically the way that Christy Nome and Cori Lundowski were
trying to implement it, that they basically went to ICE and said, you have 30 days, go buy, you know, 30 something warehouses and completely turn over, you know, our detention strategy in a month, basically buy these things in a few days, retrofit them. That sort of speed is what we saw. I mean, you referenced my reporting on campus Montana, the tent camp detention center in El Paso. They put that camp detention center up with surprising speed over the summer and that really
contributed to a lot of the really, really severe issues there. And so I think we were headed in the same direction. All street journal reporter Michelle Hackman is really invaluable service to the country to have you on this beat, breaking so many stories here, you and your colleagues at the journal. Thank you, keep it up and we really appreciate you talking about your reporting here tonight. Thank you. Thanks so much. We'll be right back.
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