‘Ghostbusters’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan

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I think I'm on Netflix or somewhere. The eight biggest eighties movies. Just biggest. Let's hear it. Just by year.

I'm not ranking these. Okay. Empire. Raiders. Yeah, I.

There's the eight biggest movies. How much money they made. What they meant to pop culture. Just how huge they were. You're ranking them or do you get this?

I'm not ranking them. I'm just putting that in order from 1980 to 1989. Okay. I think those are the eight. And I thought Top Gun would be in there.

But it just didn't make as much money in us. These movies made huge money. They changed the lives of the people that were in them. They infiltrated pop culture for months and months. And I think that's the list.

So why this movie is here. I mean, for seven year old me.

“This was the most important thing in the world.”

Like 84. I don't even think I had a relationship to sign it at live. But this is the perfect mixture of childlike wonder with like adult humor. And so you're watching this movie and you get when you're a kid. You get like 25% 50% of the jokes, maybe.

Yeah. But there's just something about Murray and the tone that you're like, that you're like, I'm mesmerized by this as well as the ghosts and the marshmallow man and everything else. So this was to me. I mean, this is like a story about monoculture.

This is a story about like, I don't know anybody. It was like Ghostbusters. I don't know anybody. It was like Madonna, Princeton and Bruce Springsteen either. It's like 84.

We just made stuff that like everybody was kind of like, Yeah, it's pretty good or great. Or I love it. Or I'm obsessed with it. He was funny rewatching it.

It's just like putting on like an old company sweatshirt. They've had forever. You're like, oh, I love when I put this on. It just feels so good. Yes.

Love this. That's what it's been for 42 years.

“You know, I was watching the movie in about 20 minutes into it.”

Like, I, I started to feel so good about the experience that I was having.

That I tried to like sit up for a second.

Take us that back and go, why is this happening? Yeah. Why does this movie still work like this on me? And I don't know. I wish I could have come up with an answer.

Bill Murray makes me feel at home. Dan Aquora and Bill Murray together. Magic. Ghost in New York. The way I view and think of New York a lot of it oriented and created by this movie.

Yeah. Like, it's, it's, I can't explain why it's still so perfect for me. But it did not lose one step. You're a little bit older when it came out. So yeah.

And he said, this isn't about it for you. Or is there a, what's your relationship? No, it was the opposite. I was, I was thinking back to 84. We know no MC you really, we had a couple superman films.

No MC you really. There was no MC you. Doesn't exist. Well, we did DC comics. Not really.

We do, they're all either on TV or comedy Batman. We haven't, yeah. There was flash Gordon. Oh. For alien movies, we had like, ET.

But at that point, Murray and Aquora are comedy royalty from SNL.

From the first five years of the show.

You have that. You have everyone kind of knew. This was a blue sheet movie. And then he died. Yeah.

So that, that kind of put that on the radar a little bit. And then they really, really promoted it in the perfect way. Because they put out that no ghost thing. That was out. I'm for your no ghost.

Just a little bit simple.

They did like almost like viral marketing. And then they had to MTV the Ray Parker song. And they had a great video. And it was on for that whole summer, but this was summer of 84, which was the Olympics in L.A. It was the height of Michael Jackson and Springsteen and all these different things.

Michael Jordan's about to be in the NBA. And just pop culture was ready for this. So is this in Beverly Hills, cop both in the same year,

combined with a million other things?

And reading about the movie and like the way it was released and the way it was marketed was huge summer movie that then became what everybody dressed as for Halloween. And then became a huge Christmas movie because people were giving each other toys, go to posters toys for Christmas. So it essentially stretched through three quarters of 84 of people routinely going.

And you think about like project Hail Mary will probably make more money.

“I think than Oppenheimer they're projecting now.”

Yeah. But project Hail Mary is like kind of already out of the consciousness. Like it. I mean, people who see it, people dig it and you know, like my wife only just saw it. But it's not like I don't think people are going to be dressed as is

as Brian Gosling from Project Hail Mary for Halloween. I think you'll probably see more Ghostbusters than you will that. It was also of just a really great idea for movie. Everything is combined comedy goes but not scary goes but kind of scary. It's fun and it's New York City.

It just worked. Everything is novel in the movie. Like everything is something that we kind of hadn't seen before. Yeah. We haven't really seen the Proton packs.

We hadn't seen like we hadn't seen paranormal guys fighting ghost in this way. But how everything is brand new, which is a problem that we've run into now. Is we compare movies in the Asia we're living in right now to movies in the past. And we just forget that like we've seen a lot of shit. Like we've seen a lot of stuff.

Yeah.

“The reason why sinners worked so well for a lot of people is because that was kind of not”

plot obviously the plot was a little derivative but that was kind of some shit that we hadn't quite seen before. You're talking about original IP movies. I'm original IP movies but even beyond that. Forget about that. I'm talking about like this movie we're talking about like gozer and like zool in these

ancient demons that they're fighting. Ghost taking over New York. They're doing all it is but to your point they're not doing it like seriously.

They're never they're scared but they're wise cracking their way through it.

They're home. They fall into a sinkhole. You don't feel like they're. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's like oh yeah they'll get up. This movie. I mean I have this related and stuff but like we should talk about now like the way that they tell this story is completely different than the way they would do it in 2026. And it was completely different than the way that the sequels kind of worked out where they're spending way too much time explaining the sort of paranormal mechanics of a lot of the stuff for the history. The history of the history of the stuff.

This is just kind of like yeah it goes to the ghost area and the traveler to go the kid. Key master the gatekeeper. Yeah they can't meet something. Yeah. They don't know what they talk about crossing the streets.

They're just like it would be very bad. Right. Yeah. There's no five minutes. We're going to get to this like they do all of this stuff.

“Do you know how many questions the audience would have now?”

They build the containment suit and we talk about that later. They say it's a nuclear reactor and in the middle what essentially is like try back over. Yeah. It's like to all of this stuff what the movie does is it it puts a lot of faith in its performers. Yeah.

They explain the bigger stuff and they leave the smaller stuff it just let they let it linger. Yeah. So it's fun reliving it through my kids when they got to the right age to watch this which is probably like six or seven. It's not like that scary. It's scary in the right ways you're not going to have nightmares and it's funny.

It's not like subursive sexual humor funny. Yeah. It's just except for good. It's not even like a lot of like great jokes. It's just more the people seem really funny.

Well there's not a lot of gags. Yeah. There's not a lot of one line. It doesn't gag. Well I would just.

Well there's a lot of one line as I come out of the movie. Yeah. They're not like well written gag. No. Like Murray commenting on the absurdity of being Ghostbusters throughout the movie.

Yeah. Once again, we got to a place in comedies where comedies had to like be really high premise. They had to be really high premise and he had to keep coming back to that premise over and over again.

40 year old guy never had sex.

The jokes just write themselves. Every other scene you can have a joke. Yeah. We were in an era at that particular point to where the comedic talent was so overwhelming. If you're talking about Bill Murray or Eddie Murphy, where you could take one of those guys and put them in the situation and they would funny you're seeing.

They would funny the scene. That's basically what Akira had said. Yeah. He's like we just needed to put him in the place to succeed. This was the best comedy leading man in the world.

Yeah. Akira was really good as the sidekick. Probably trading places was the closest where he came to being the coach.

But anytime he tried to veer out on his own with like Dr. Detroit or something like that he couldn't really carry it.

He was always better in a role like this.

I have a lot of thoughts about the great outdoors. Another one wears him and candy. Yeah. And they're going back and forth. He always needed like a foil and then when he hits the 90s he becomes more of like the Tommy Boy type like he pops into movies.

What's your relationship with this movie Craig? I mean, obviously something that everyone knows and everyone loves and all the every kid loves. I saw it when I was really young. I've not seen it since, but yet it's just like one of those cultural staples that has always been around. But you didn't find it to be like a kids movie when you were watching it.

Like it's just this time. No, definitely not.

“I think that's the difference with a lot of comedies back then is it used to be for everyone?”

And now it's like is it a kids movie or is it not? Yeah. Because a lot of the jokes I would not have gotten when I was eight years old. No. Like most of them are funny as thing.

Like the things that make me laugh now are so different than what made me cry. And what made me cry. Did you guys ever watch movies like this with your parents? Sure. So that is something that all, that's an interesting experience.

Because now parents, I'm not a parent. But the sense that I get is that parents don't watch more dope or into comedies with their kids as much they used to. I don't know that that's, but when I would watch Ghostbusters, my dad would laugh at the scene when she's possessed. Yeah, he would laugh at that scene because that's the scene that a older slightly mentioned. It's actually in the, you window, he would be like, look.

She said, she's saying, get in the side, but he's not going to do it. Because she got it. He can't do it. She got demon in it. And so like the whole, that is how I learned that I was supposed to find that funny.

Right. Like I knew that there was a joke being made there that I didn't get. And I watched it. I understood it by watching adults react. I remember my parents cracking up at the scene with the mayor.

And not just because of dogs and cats living together, but just because of like, Ed Koch stand in negotiating with Ghostbusters. And the, you know, the cardinal archbishop's there and the chief police and they were cracking up at this guy. Letting the Ghostbusters do whatever they want it because of banked and pointing out. You'll have saved the lives of millions of registered voters.

And they were like in hysterical about it. I was like, I don't get it. Like it seems like the Ghostbusters made a compelling argument.

“Do you, I don't even, do you think Dan Accord and Bill Murray and Ramos?”

What have said that we are making a kids movie as they were writing the film? I don't know. They wanted, they were trying to make a huge comedy. Because it used to be, you would make a comedy for adults. But you would have elements in it that kids would like.

And now it's, you make a comedy for kids. And you have elements in it that adults will like adults can stomach. Like Zootopia has adult humor in it.

But it is a kids movie first.

There's one thing in this movie that lets me know that they at least had a thought that kids will be into it. Is that there are no random 80s tits that pop up in the movie anywhere. Sure. And they took some of that other stuff out. Like there was like bad writing on the walls that they decided to change.

And just like the animation of the Ghosts, like the guy like they're like cute green ghosting on the food. Like that is a kid's animation. And he's like, not really, not really. Not really, not really. So, but the movie is scary at times.

Like demons turning into stuff. Like the movie is at times like serious.

“I think it's scary when they're on the top floor that building when the it's basically the buildings been blown out.”

And it feels like they could go off the side of the either side. Also, it's just a kind of hair on it. It's just a funny that like they're like no nudity, no profanity. These guys can change smoke. Yeah.

Oh my gosh. There's so much smoke in this. Going back to 84. I wrote a piece.

I think it was like my second or third year of page two that I thought 1984 was the greatest year ever for.

For like people like us, like with the sports, the pop culture. So, you get Beverly Hills cop ghost boosters. You're purple rain in the Terminator. You're Arnold's entrance. You had 16 canos and karate kid laying the template for the 80's team movies.

You had the peaks of Springsteen, Michael Jackson, Prince, and Hughie Lewis. And you also had in February, Billie Jean at both town 25. Probably this single greatest television moment of by lifetime. Hulk Hogan wins WWE title, Jordan joins the NBA and Marilyn Mu joins the NHL. We have the first bird magic NBA finals.

We have Mackenrow, Gretzky, Bird, and Montana in their absolute prize. We have the peak of Biggie's basketball. We have a Thursday NBC with Cosby Show, Cheers, and Family Ties. We have the start-up by a new vice. We have Letterman breaking through the first slam dunk contest.

Madonna's arrival, Flutey wins the high as Ben. Tom Hanks makes the leap. Howard Stern and the 84 Olympics with no Russians. I can keep going and going. Is this feeling over Georgetown? That was 85.

But we do have Patrick Union Georgetown. There's like 40 other things I could put in there. But it just felt like I can't explain it. But everything felt really authentic back then. They hadn't really put the thought into, we have this coming.

Here's how we're going to shape the perception of it. Here's how we're going to promote this.

“Like Gold's Busters is a summer movie that it just came out.”

It was like summer movie season as begun with Ghost Busters. Things just kind of happened. And it was cool to be there for that. And watching people slowly figure out how to commercialize a summer like that. And all the things that happened was really interesting in real time.

Yeah, I mean, some of this is like our origin story. And we probably mythologize that time period. I mean, you were seven and I was 15. Yeah. Yeah.

So it was two different stages. But I also think that there's something about like the way that culture worked back then.

Maybe because it was like they were freely first starting to see a new level of how much money they could make.

But even if you think back to the pop stars that we were being given. That was such a interesting mix of people and like sexual identity. French, Michael Jackson. Yeah. And we lose and Madonna.

Yeah. And Bruce Springsteen. So even when Ghost Busters two comes out, right? The Ghost Busters two is a reaction to the new culture that we were in. Big song by Bobby Brown, right?

Bobby Brown is in the movie. It's almost a meta commentary on the Ghost Busters. They franchiseed it. They franchiseed it. Now by the time and felt like they had to get it out before Batman.

Yeah. It's the whole time. It's the difference. It's been all ready changed because like everything that we're talking about or people that like came along and it's not. I'm not waxing poetic about it because the talent doesn't exist now to do this.

Same stuff. It was just the first time we had seen some of this stuff. It was the first time. The infrastructure for black blot busher films wasn't quite there yet. It was getting there.

Yeah. And we weren't as cynical about it. There wasn't like a tie-in to McDonald's or like all that stuff. Or like all that stuff hadn't been established yet. And so now I actually credit the creativity of contemporary artists because they are really going up against some dogs and some legends.

Yeah. Like just some people that were really really really unique in their approach and their creativity. We weren't cynical about anything in 1984. I just like believed to whatever. It was like Michael Jackson.

Big ladies man. It's like, yeah. Totally. I agree. I agree.

But like I remember Letterman. I letter. This was like probably the greatest Letterman year. And he was. I don't remember his 8485.

But he would just fuck with people.

And it was always like organic.

Like he had a bullhorn. He got the window. And they're filming the today show with Brian Gumball. And he is the bullhorn. And he's just messing with them.

And Brian Gumball's getting mad. And it's like, oh, he made Brian Gumball mad. Yeah. And now it would be like. But just think of it the way that would be dissected now.

“With social media and rumors like, are they feuding?”

What's going on here? The history of Letterman versus Brian Gumball. It's like, yeah. It wasn't like that. It's amazing.

I miss it. It's amazing to imagine these guys rolling through New York. And this is like when you read the research about them like in New York City at the time. It's like, they were like guys. They were like kids.

And like the crowd is from SNL, right? Mary and accurate are like these.

But even then I bet you're starting to get like everybody's got like this

legendary. Like I was out and Bill Murray came into the bar at 145. Yeah. With a Marty Grop parade. And like, you know, they like these fucking, you know, complete urban legends.

But like it's starting to build up. And when you watch him work, when every is like working the crowd in this movie, you're like, oh, shit. Like this guy coulda run for office. So closing credits are phenomenal.

Yeah. It's like one of my favorite parts. They're just in New York City. And just New York. Everybody.

The camera is amazing. All different parts of New York culture. They're covered in half. Stay push. Yeah.

Yeah. Film. Getting into the car. Smoking. Steel.

Another hard day at the work for the, is almost becomes like a documentary at the end of the world. Dude, they shut down New York. They shut down Times Square. They shut down all around Central Park.

Okay. They shut it over. People were like, this is cool. Murray and accurate. Leave a loan.

They're doing a movie. I just think it was just different back then. Because we almost like didn't know any better.

“And I think that Ghostbusters 2 is a really good way to frame this.”

It's only five years later. Yeah. But by the time that comes out and there was a bunch of other sequels. Some of us, we talked about like we talked about another 40 hours. But like a bunch of the sequels that came out late 80s.

Yeah. I mean, these were just money credits. Yeah. Yeah. They're doing it a little bit more against their will.

Even about a time we get to Batman. Batman is an interesting case studying. What it is that we're talking about. Batman is a swing. No doubt about it.

The character itself is very well known. Obviously in the American pop culture. But Tim Burton at that time is an author or a tour. And they give him that type of deal. It's a swing.

It's like not the same as Batman. Batman.

The swing is not the safest thing in the world to do. However, though.

“That movie is one of the first movies of that era that was primed to be a boxoff.”

His blockbuster with thought put into it. They already knew that we were into the era of the blockbuster that the 90s would be huge. They had already is 89 when that comes out. All the lessons from the 80s had been learned. So while it's an 80s movie, there were sequels after that.

They had to stand down and they had everything. They had to tie in. They had all that stuff done. So it is very pure what we're talking about. But at the same time, it's of reaction to the movies that came out in the decade prior to it.

Last crusade was a little like that, too. Not like last crusade then. But it felt very calculated with the attack. It kind of comes to like a head with Jurassic. Because Jurassic is like, it's not negotiable.

You're going to see this and you're going to love it. There's dinosaurs. And there's already shit to buy before the movie even comes out. Collectors cops. But can I tell you the last crusade is actually a really good example of this.

Because to me, it took a long time for that movie to be properly appreciated because of the way it was when it came out. And it was such a big deal.

It was maybe the first event.

But they had like a Pepsi ad. They had the whole deal. It was the whole deal was a big corporate thing.

“And I think that that hurt and they have Sean Connery in the movie.”

They actually cast somebody to be equally yoked to Harrison Ford. So it was a movie star vehicle big summer event. But there's stuff about Ghostbusters in the making of it that does kind of like project onto like even today where they're like. They have a release date before they have a script. You know, like they have, you know, like they're there are certain like parameters around this movie.

I think they knew it. Murray was like not knowing and they were like, the last finish that he was doing it. Yeah. Yeah. Um.

I don't know. I miss it. I missed not knowing a lot about a movie. Like all we knew from this movie were a couple commercials. We didn't have that all infrastructure in place.

But the story is about. It anything like I know we all approach this differently. I tried not to know anything about a movie when it's coming out. Like even when we went and saw centers like. I don't think I 100% knew their vampires.

I knew something was going on or we or that it was going back to 1993. Yeah. I didn't know about it because I had been so steadfast of avoiding everything. But these in 1984, this was just pop out. We knew Prince was making a movie.

Sure. New that the video would come out kind of before the movie.

That was the first taste of it.

Other than that, you didn't know anything. And it was kind of the audience would decide. And that's how it went.

“Now you have to know everything to get people to go to the theater.”

Like have to kill Mary, you think that was the case? Yeah. I mean, they certainly reveal. It was Gosling. You know, you know, he was going to.

The trailer gives away that he meets Amelia and out there. A lot of movies teach the twists in the trailer now because they just need to sell as much as they can to get you off your ass to go into the theater. So they have to tell you basically what the whole story is. Because their premise heavy, because we don't have the same crop of stars that we used. Well, and Spielberg is doing the opposite with his current movie where he's not showing anything from the third act in the trailer.

And it's a risk because that's why the trailer is not bad. I think that if you were watching three months ago, if Gosling was coming out now, you would have seen 65% of the good Bill Murray lines and trailers. So you would have seen this chick is toast already. I also think that like at that point, and I was, I don't have any memory of Gosling.

Back when through Ghostbusters, for whatever, back when through like whatever the fucking film is like me going, oh my god, where does God get a start? And really like the Eddie Murphy for me, the Eddie Murphy sign I live VHS was just a big part of my ability to like appreciate that a lot. So I had Murray with the SNL reruns because they show him in prime time. The meatballs, catishack, stripes, tootsie, and he would pop on letterman everyone so I'll, but it was like, well, if that guy's in a comedy, I'm going.

Yeah, like he is, you see his face and you go, this is the pick as it's crazy. I didn't really fully realize this until we did the research. This movie was so big, Murray didn't do another movie for four years.

He like got freaked out by how powerful an enormous this became and it made him rethink like everything.

And he accurate wasn't really the same either. He did research edge before Ghostbusters, that was supposed to be his like, here's my, here's my series. I'm a series actor as well. Accurate did spies like us in 85 and dragged down in 87 pretty rock after that right men and Raimus, it worked out better for those guys, but it's pretty, you see this sometimes where something's so big that people don't almost know what to do.

Yeah, the beach that the beach and that was it. Yeah, they're like, oh shit.

“Um, post blues brothers, Accurate was fascinated by the supernatural and quantum physics and parapsychology all the stuff and you want to trap ghosts and do a movie with him in blue sheet trapping ghosts.”

This was 1981. And he was inspired.

I never saw these movies.

Sean probably has them on 4K. Avenue Castello hold that ghost Bob hope the Ghostbreakers, the Barry boys ghost chasers, so he wanted to do a comedy ghost movie, but haven't rooted in actual research for how this stuff would work. Writing the blue sheet scenes for the movie that they blew she died. Like he tells that story in the, in the Bob Woodward book. Um, and then had to audible the nose.

It was originally called Ghost Smashers, so it has this whole thing shows it to right men. Right men's like this would cost a kajillion dollars. It was like in the future. Yeah, it was like, can you put this in earth, so they get ramus. Um, and they pitch it.

So this is why I get dubious of some of the casting what is because right men says he goes and pitches this movie. It's going to be the three of us. We're going to rewrite it. They're going to be the three Ghostbusters, Murray and Ramus and Akroyd and we're off. Then there's like a hundred casting what ifs.

So I don't we're going to go to later. I don't know what to believe. So they rewrite the movie. They decide. Ramus is going to be the brains.

Akroyd's the heart.

Murray's the Murray's basically the wisest and they said it in New York City.

And we're good to go, Van. Don't do it. And it's by the way, in the whole back scale. Hour 45. Right there.

Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know what I would cut. Perfect. Yeah.

“I think anything in the hour 40 is fine.”

Just to just to go back to something Van was saying a little bit. There's something different about this than stripes and Beverly Hills Cobb to me. Where stripes and Beverly Hills Cobb feels like 1970 scripts that they were like. This has been kicking around or like we have an idea based on something that is already been done. Yeah.

What if Eddie Murphy was the cop? What if Bill Murray was the soldier? And what would we do with that? Bill's in New. This feels like something that's like like this and back to the future.

Feel like movies that I'm like, I don't think they could have done this in 1970s. It's good to bring those together because those back to the future is the next year. Yeah. Those are the two words. Like I'm sure when they were working on this, they were probably like, is this going to work?

Yeah. Is this going to work? But also like this might be massive. Yeah. Because you bad have a feeling because you're catching light in the bottle with some of the stars.

But yeah. It's a good point.

But they both have like iconography where you're like the skateboard and you know, the inventing skateboarding basically.

Yeah. We're like, you know, the acto one and the jumpsuits in this where you're like, man, I just feel like these guys just. They got six or seven new things and six or seven things that are just a hundred years old and solid. And they put them together to make something nobody had seen before. And the movie is very 80s.

Like I thought about things this time. She's a concert violinist. Yeah. Child straight. Like a child.

Yeah. Like she's a concert. And not really addressed or shown. Not really addressed or shown. Don't be her soul.

She is an artist. She is a woman about her times. That's perfect. It's central park west. Living in central park west.

Like he walks into it and goes a lot of space in here. She's such a lady. Her entire independence is upended by the fact that she has an uninvited guest that she can't kick out. Which is the ghost. So like it's almost full.

Yeah. So a meta commentary on like the 80s woman. Like yeah. All of the stuff that's happening in the movie is the movie is very 80. It's very 80s because there's a cultural explosion that's happening around that time that the movie takes advantage of.

Murray is on an all-time run that we've mentioned. 79. 84. Meepa's catish extracts. Titsi Ghostbusters.

I mean, Jesus. She's been living up that for 42 years. Yeah. Accurate had blues brothers. He did neighbors and doctor to trade between trading places. And trading places.

Which if we're talking about all these like and we've done a lot of them and we watch most trading places is just a kick ass conventional movie. Yes. With major stars. This movie is a kick ass movie that had the chance to grow in a different way. Well, you talk about the casting audits like trading places, there's there's 10 versions of of the two guys in trading places.

And you do them with Charles Groen and Matt Neuro or something like that. You know, like you could pick pairs and make a lot of those movies work. You could pick pairs and make 48 hours work. Maybe not on the level it does. Beverly Hills cop.

You could find a Detroit cop going to Beverly Hills. I don't know. You look at the casting audits.

“Even if you just do a fake fantasy draft of like who would you want as the four Ghostbusters?”

There's no way to top this.

This is the Beatles.

“How much how many digestible science fiction blockbusters have we had before this?”

Obviously Star Wars was a gigantic thing because like Alien was in a blockbuster.

Right. I'm talking about Alien. Alien's was a blockbuster. I think in any sense. There's a movie that deal in like paranormal.

There's ghost stuff. This film has to play a middle America. Like, but it's a, it's a science fiction. Like those movies were like, like, big films. I'm talking about like, in this way, like, for a comedy for them to kind of do this version of it.

It's failed 100 times. Right. Yeah. It usually doesn't work. And I don't say I'm not sure how this movie works.

There are like 100 lines where I'm like, oh, that is actually now just something I say with For, and I forgot, it came from Ghostbusters. Do you know what I mean? Like an aside that you make routinely. Don't trust the streams actually became like pop culture. Yeah.

Like there's a lot of people would just ask that. That's, that's come from this movie. Yeah. Like, peeing crossing streams. Yeah.

Don't cross the stream. This, this entire movie is a piece of pop. Like the fact that myth busters something is called. Yeah. Yeah.

And I'd like to see anything like anything. Yeah. Yeah. And anything busters is like this entire movie is just, yeah. There's a bunch of those.

Yeah. Yeah. Sigourney Weaver. But what's actually, we'll take a break. And then I go talk about Sigourney Weaver.

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Limited time only prices and participation may vary. Prices may be higher for delivery. Sigourney Weaver. Fought for the part. Smart. They were like, you're a dramatic actress.

You went to Yale. We're intimidated by your six feet tall. She's like, I'm really funny. You got to try me out. She does from a 10 year span, 79, 89.

Alien, Ghostbusters, Aliens, and working girl. Trafford, the biggest movies of that stretch. She was also an eyewitness here. Olivia Dangerously. Deal the century girls in the midst of Ghostbusters, too.

Stealth case for winning the 80s. Yeah. For female acts for actresses. I don't know who us is in there. I'd have to see Barrel Streep's 80s.

Yeah, I'm real sure. I don't think she had, she probably killed. I don't think blockbusters. Yeah, not blockbusters. Yeah.

The melding Griffiths probably in there. Really Griffiths is new.

“But I think Sigourney has the best mix of like blockbuster with like,”

She had her ability. She has blockbuster. She has blockbuster. She has the gold. She has a, she has rom-com.

She has blockbusters, sci-fi stuff. She has a pretty good idea. Can I hear Diane Keaton's 80s? Oh. Like baby boom.

I don't think she had it because some of it's from the 70s. Okay. And stuff. Well, we, we already figured out that Renee Russo when the 90s. If she bypassed the gun.

Like just convincingly, too. Just tried everywhere. What's her NBA comp? What's the, what's the really devastatingly effective championship winning NBA player that nobody remembers how good they were when they were on top of their game?

Sigourney Leaver. No, I'm talking about Renee Russo. Oh, Renee Russo. Oh, Renee Russo was a problem. Like, highlight real.

Like, like, yeah. Yeah. Look, look at Renee Russo's back. She's like nine bangers. Nine bangers.

Yeah. Not misses.

I think she's the second most rewatchable library actress.

She might be. I think it's Meg Ryan and then her or something like that. Um. Yeah. So Sigourney.

And then Dave was the only other combination to which Veronica is with that. Yeah. But she had a good timing. I don't know. She's so tall.

Like, if there's other actors that could have been in this, that I think it would have been bad. I mean, just hers, like, a relatively tall guy. First of all. Interactions with Moranis are like, they're just funny to look at together.

Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's just like, as soon as he comes out of his apartment, you're like, you gotta be fucked. Yeah.

It looks like Wendy with like, like, Stephen Castle. Um. Ray Parker's theme song. Do you have any Sigourney Weaver? You want to save it for later.

I'll save it for later. I love it. I love it. Yeah. Ray Parker's theme song. Number one for three weeks.

The video is number one on an MTV directed by Raymond. Feature Chevy Chase, John Candy, George went.

They needed to video Carly Simon and a million people.

And everyone's dancing down the streets of New York City. And they closed time square. Which they kind of stopped doing after the 80's. And I think vanilla sky was like the last anything. They got them.

Yeah, so you have to do it now at dawn. But they were probably like three, three, 45 PM.

So then it turned into this whole scandal with the Huey Louis song. Yeah. I want a new drug. Yeah.

“Which is what's aged so worse for this movie.”

Because there's a lot of research on this. That they wanted Huey Louis to do the song. They put I want a new drug as the temp song. And some of the early scenes. And then Ray Parker had a week to write the song.

And it really does sound like the same thing.

So there's some mystery lawsuit that we've never heard.

I think he was financially did okay. I think he did okay. Yeah, because he bounced back like the next year. He did the whole back to the future. And like he had two albums that sold like 20 million.

He was the main at that point. You know what? I'm glad we have them both. Yeah. It's like having Heather Thomas and Heather Lockler.

We're all winners. That's right. Two really good songs. There's an incredible. What if with this movie that we mentioned earlier about Eddie Murphy.

And there's a lot of competing journalism. The peating narratives about this. Accurate seems to be adamant that it was four ghost busters. And Winston was going to be Eddie Murphy. And that one adds up to me more because they had just done trading places together.

Uh-huh. As he's writing ghost busters.

“Um, also why wouldn't he want Eddie Murphy in this movie?”

But right now he was like that. That wasn't the case, right? Right.

And he said, no, no, he was never a serious thing.

But I almost felt like he was trying to be nice to Ernie Hudson. Right. I'm going to believe that they went hard after Eddie Murphy. And I don't know why they wouldn't have. Of course.

And I think it adds up because he had relationships with Murray and Accurate. It's almost the new category of Craig. The Eddie Murphy and ghost busters are word for biggest. What if? Because if he's in this movie from the beginning.

It breaks my brain. It doesn't work. First of all, like, I don't talk this out. There's not enough, there's not enough screen for those guys all to be on screen together. Doing like this movie works because the other guys revolve around Murray.

Right. If you have Murphy in there and they're like, let's give Murphy like three scenes where there's no script. And he's just allowed to like cook. I just think it starts to blot out the sun a little bit. I'm sure we would have clips that we were like,

that's the fucking funniest thing I've ever seen. But you can't just like let Eddie Murphy cook from the. It's like AJ Brown and Jaylin Hertz or AJ Brown and Drake May. Wow. Oh, yeah, it's it's when Ernie comes into the movie.

He does exactly what he supposed exactly. He studies the whole deal. He's a little bit of skepticism. A little bit of skepticism. A little bit of real is every man.

Yeah. Every man. Everybody else is all into this absurdist comedy. And he's the one like I need my own lawyer. You know, he perfect.

Eddie. You got to let him win scenes. Or if you don't let him win, he's going to win them. So it just doesn't work. It's like that weird liquor's team where they had Nash and Howard.

And if you saw when all of those guys just not enough basketball and got a bad back. You're the same person and things chase the Tadam and Jaylin Brown can't play together. I want to say it. I'm I'm Zaggin. I think they could have figured it out.

I actually think the upside of the movie is higher and the downside is lower. I'm fine with what we landed because this became an iconic awesome movie. Yes. It's really hard for me to believe that Eddie Murphy 1994 wouldn't have improved the movie. I don't think it wouldn't have.

I don't think it wouldn't have improving as a weird thing. I just think it wouldn't be what it is.

“And I think there would be like three scenes were like holy shit.”

Like I can't believe we didn't get more Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy talking to ghosts. You're telling me I'm not enjoying that movie theater. But okay. Where's Eddie at this career at this point?

Like Eddie Eddie is done for it at our trading places. And he's doing Beverly those cop that comes at the same year. You're still in baby and a corner. You're not going. Yeah.

It's not going. Yeah. It's not going. It's not going. So he didn't movie called Deal of the Century.

Ironically. Where he's in.

They basically filmed his scene.

It didn't work. It wasn't a good movie. And he's in it. He kind of pops in and out. So he's like a star.

But he's not a star. And I wonder if they did that for this. Where he's in basically half the movie. As like they're bringing the firepower. I mean it would be like it would be really funny.

If Eddie Murphy played Walter Peck. Oh, just relax. Richard Peck or Walter Peck. No, it's Walter Peck. Walter Peck.

Like if he just had like two scenes. Two scenes. Well, it's a what? Because he could have gone 40 to hours trading places. But this is Beverly's Cop and Ghostbusters in three years.

That would have shed it down. Yeah, too much. No, so we're pretty funny to watch Eddie Murphy and Ghostbusters too. Oh, he would have done it. Yeah.

He would have been available. Wow, I'm surprised you guys weren't more receptive to this. You're really protective of the four ghostbusters. Well, to me, this is a perfect film. Like I just think that like you start to mess with the

the notation of the music and it changes the tune a little bit. Okay. Would you want it anywhere in this? I get what they're saying. I think it would have worked if maybe he had like a

Deon waiters to two big scenes and then got out.

Yeah. I don't know if he could have done it in the whole movie. Like that. Another thing to me, the movie is oriented around the comedic tone and stylings of Bill Murray and Eddie Murphy

does his comedy in a different way. Yeah.

“Also, I think I always thought the Winston character like didn't make any sense.”

That felt like they were four. I feel like he didn't have a time to do. To be honest, it felt like a token casting. Wow. Interesting.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, one of us we can't both go. Put him in the beginning of the movie then. Yeah. Oh, so now he wants to be a guest.

He wants to be a guest. We just jammed him there. We just jammed him there. He didn't have a time to do. I got something to say about that.

I have more of this later work than we thought it was going to be. It just felt like they bailed on that story. I think it's a really nice like we got to bring somebody off the bed. I guess. In the middle of the movie.

I think the reason why. Murphy. Funny person a lot. Yeah, I'm just going through like these movies. We're just like, you know what it'd be good is if Tom Cruise showed up.

Yeah. Why can't Tom Cruise be the van. But in this case. He really was supposed to be the fourth ghost poster. Sure.

And I think that like at Ernie Hudson. Sometimes acrimonious relationship to this movie.

“Like at various points where he's been like, well, the script.”

Like there's a much bigger part in the script than I read. I wonder if that was for. Hey, I wonder if they wrote it thinking we might get any. All kinds of research on that with. Whether it was a much bigger part that got cut down.

Let's say realized or any Hudson was in it or what was going on. This movie is dominated for two Oscars. Hmm. Best song. Best visual effects.

Elmer Bernstein scored not nominated. Very good though. We were. What's the Robx scale? 100 minutes.

Yeah. So we're plus five. Yeah, that's fine though. It's amazing. It's an hour 40 range.

Okay.

30 million dollar budget made $298 million.

In 1984. So it just did that's like a bill or eight. Yeah. Second biggest film of 84. Biggest comedy ever at the time.

Which lasted only a few weeks. And then. Uh, Beverly's cop took that. Number one for seven straight weeks kicked off. The number one list.

By a little movie called Purple Rain. Oh, we stood here to make things in America. We sure did. We fucking knew what we were doing in 1984. Yeah.

So it's like, sorry. Ghostbusters. Princess here. I sure you're going to get to Roger in a second. I had a quote from just reading up about this.

I thought really summed it up. John Apptown. Uh, said it really is a perfect comedy. It was all those people at the height of their powers. They had mastered their craft and made the film we dreamed they'd make.

Movies like Ghostbusters made us want to make movies. No notes. Raj went three and a half stars. See. He doctored a half star for everybody Murphy.

He said rarely has a movie. This expensive provided so many quotable lines.

And he said Ghostbusters is one of those rare movies where the original fragile comic vision has survived a multi-million dollar production.

Yeah. Good way to put it. Yep. Want to go to the scenes? Let's go to the scenes.

Most of you watch. Most of you watch. Well, seen. Thank you been working ESP with the two kids in favor in the blind. It's so fucking funny.

Studying the effect of negative reinforcement on his picture. We're five dollars. We're five bucks. Yeah.

“Do you know what movie that the guy was in in that scene?”

He didn't recognize him. I did. You might be the only one who's seen this movie. Actually, see our mind of Christine. Oh, yeah.

He was one of the two bad guys. Oh, yeah. He sure was. He and that other guy buddy. And Jennifer Runyon is the.

Jennifer Runyon. Yeah. Beautiful here. I think Christine, one of the ten worst movies I've seen the most. It's really awful.

Yeah. It's hard for me. I think I've seen at least 20 times. I've seen a bunch. He was hard for me to view it as bad.

But it's. The Stephen King movies back there, then we're kind of game. I like the all of them. I mean, maximum overdrive is still my dream. We're watching.

Even Stephen King didn't like the Stephen King movies. And I'm like, signed me up. Kujo. Did you see me trapped in a car for 45 minutes? Maximum overdrive.

Uh-huh. It's Stephen King directed it while high on cocaine. Yeah. Say no more. Stars and the US.

It is about machines taking over the world. Yeah. Wait a minute. It's bad. I can see this.

Yeah. And it said it a truck stop in normal. Yeah. I didn't see this. I didn't do cocaine month for the rewatchables.

I wanted to cocaine year. What? Just 52 movies were. Everybody was kind of their mind. It's 28 leading into the presidential election.

It's cocaine year. Sponsored by state farm. Yeah. Next we watch.

Go to the library and get spooked.

My uncle thought he was saying to Rome. Yeah. This a couple movies have done a really good job of Nailing how creepy libraries are. The wrong kind of time of day of a big sprawling library.

You just feel like something awful could happen. Any place where there are support where there are a lot of people in it. But you are supposed to be quiet. Feels odd. Yeah.

Good point. Sigourney with the groceries. AKA Dana. We get the Ghostbusters commercial on TV at this point. We are ready to bring you.

We're ready to bring you. Ready to believe you. Really get special effects with the eggs.

“And I think we should have mentioned it at the top.”

For 1984 some of the special effects were excellent. Like really good. Like we have eggs frying on a counter. And in 1984 gone. Wow.

How are they doing that? Yeah. Now it would be like, you know, they could do anything in that. One of the biggest picking nits of the entire movie to me. The still is a woman like Dana buying a giant bag of marshmallows.

Interesting. What you think she was going to make rice crispy treats or something? Like I don't know if you're getting down. And we get marshmallows. Okay.

Yeah. Sexual food. Um. She's a feeling she's wrecked to you. I like it.

Chances advanced value sometimes. Yeah. I think she would have cleaned the eggs up. Yes. Thanks around the counter for like two days.

Well, she didn't want to clean them because she was going to go get the ghostbusters to come back in advance. That's true. Yeah. Vanquen gets slammed in the banquet room. - That's great.

- Actual physical contact. - Say me something.

“This is where we get the don't cross the streams.”

This is where we get the weekend, we saw, we conquered. He veers into Nick the Lounge singer and Carl from Catichack a little bit. (laughing) This is my favorite scene.

My most rewatchable. Right after that, the most 80s movie montage. - You could watch the movie montage. - Yeah, it's so good. - Ray Parker song kicks in.

Kiwi Lewis's lawyers immediately go to work. We get Roger Grimsley, the live at five anchor in here. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - Roger Grimsley, we get early Larry King.

We get a USA today, Ghost Feaver, Grips New York. We get time magazine, I'm the in the Atlantic. We get the soothing towns of the sounds of Casey Kasem. - Yeah. - We get the Joe Franklin show.

- Yeah. - We get the globe with a princess die expecting again. And this is clearly the kid cutty pursuit of happiness. That's needle drop. But it just makes me so happy to watch this.

- Yeah, this is, this is like the serotonin hit. This is like legal ecstasy. If you watch this, you're like goddamn. - Yeah. - It was just the best.

“- The only thing missing was Pachino and cruising,”

just dancing. Just dancing, dancing. - Just a little jack. - If we were to do the social clip, we could run the montage,

but then work in Pachino. - Sure. - The leather outfit. Rick Moranis's party. - Love it.

- Supposedly, mostly had lived. He introduces people by their financial situations that are coming to door has the blonde who, I mean. I know he's pint over so Warner Weaver and so Warner Weaver looks better.

- You like Gene Kasem, the bud? - Oh yeah, running cheers. - Casey Grimmer, Casey Kasem's wife. - Moranis coming out and going, hey, this is real smoke salmon from Nova Scotia again.

It's $24.95. Mostly cost $14, 12 cents after tax though. I'm thinking this whole thing is a promotional expense. That's why I'm fighting clients, set of friends. You have a good time, Mark, how are you doing?

Why don't you have some breads and room temperature? He's like fucking... - Go in. - Yeah, I was just like...

He's just like a head trick in the first period.

- Well, his guy's Bob and Bob and Dave. - Bob and Elaine? - Yeah, they have like, wait the one where they come in and they're like, no, they're going to be...

- That's a TV, he did. - Oh yeah, the brothers. - The fuck brothers. - The brothers. - The brothers.

- The fuck brothers. - Yeah. - He's doing a combo of that, but there's a little garth from Wayne's world in the back too, or he's kind of like talking to the side of his mouth.

We didn't talk about Baranis, but he's a relationship with him. - Obviously, this limited by the fact that he doesn't do a ton after Honey, I shrunk the kids, right? He basically disappeared. - No, we kind of disappeared.

- But this is a performance worthy of considering renaming the downwaters or word after him. - Going nuts. - Just for nuts. - Absolutely.

He plays like two different characters in this, and they are both among the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Him is Vince Cortho, him is Louis Tully, and then Sneaky, him as Louis Tully again at the end.

- Yeah. - Who does your taxes? (laughing) - Love one hilarious, like, I don't know, man. - So, you come in and get a mineral water?

- Like, you see him at first.

He's got to be in the scene when you see him. He's got to be a little bit of a pest. - Yeah. - But he's got to be lovable enough to wear later on in the movie.

'cause he's been possessed. You're gonna have to be happy.

“- Well, it seems like he'd redize when he goes against the win.”

- Right, yeah. - It seems like that's it for him, and then he comes back. And then they just give him a scene where it's just like, we have Ramoranis in this movie. You know, Ramoranis, let us show you how fun he is.

- Money, I sure think the kids was a massive movie. - Do you know the premise of that crack? - Oh, I love there's a kid. - Yeah. - That's like he was a major star.

- A major star. - He does little Giants, little Giants is the winner. - I don't remember. - I don't remember. - Yeah, I love little Giants.

- Did he want a straight man in that one a little bit? - Well, mine's being a little Joe Anderson. Didn't totally want it. Just like this life. - Oh, mine.

- Did he want to move that way? - She's fun in this thing. - There's one at the state in Maryland. - Yeah, like this life, Rick Moranis, she's like this life. - I thought he got out of acting because his life got sick or something.

- I don't, I mean, I'm just saying like he doesn't have like a million

parts like my relationship. - And the randomness is like you made six great movies. - Is that right though? Was that something you've said? - Yeah, something he's doing with raises kids and like all that,

“just, you know, next scene, are you the key master?”

Sigourney. Do you want to do this now? - Yeah, okay. - Absolutely, listen. Okay, so I'm gonna have a glass of water.

- All right, so look, what are we doing? - It was just, we're asking him to go for it. - But that's gonna go for it. - Oh, yeah, that's Catherine Tramwell. - Well, okay.

- We're asking the question though. We're asking the question. You're not gonna do it, she asked you to keep master. You come in, she did. - Then it's like, I am.

- Yeah, that's what he did. - I am the key master actually. - And then you watch him go through that scene and he's a perfect gentleman. Vankman is a good guy.

'Cause he comes off like a sleaze bag and every other scene. - Yeah. - And he knows that it's not her. He is a pre-to-concent master, is what he is. Vankman is, Vankman goes, 'cause he actually is playing

that on himself, he's like, oh, maybe why not? Why not, but he can't, he can't do it. This has been a question in my family for a long time. Whether or not you take a shot at, because that's dangerous.

- Take a shot at possessed Dana, right? - Yeah.

“- 'Cause you don't know, do you take a shot at him?”

- Three also don't know if your sexual sacrifice spares everybody, this whole occult goes through the Gozerian situation, the first place. - You also don't know what the sex is gonna be like. I mean, that'd be the big stick or if you may.

- Yeah, that gets into species territory. - That could, yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, you're going into Natasha Hentridge in the hotel room, yeah,ville.

- Can I do my flex now, 'cause it's related? - Let's do it. - The Mallory, and this wasn't even in the dock 'cause you didn't think anybody would bring this up. The Mallory Rubin Award for did this movie

need a better sex scene. It's not Weaver and Murray, it's Weaver and Moranis. We needed a Natasha Hentridge style of the roof. - Yeah. - 'Cause he's the actual keymaster, we is.

- And we meant that. - I think it's implied that they did. - Oh for sure, we see him coming in the afterglow. - Yeah, I mean, it can be like clothes on, that's fine. You can know nudity, but I wanted to see her just,

'cause like, just the physical difference between the two of them. I think that would have taken their relationship to the next level. You actually got to see her on top of him,

just tearing him down. - Wow.

- It would have been amazing.

- Wow. - Are we ready to go sponsored? - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - He's got it in there, he went the way he should have gone though. - You can't do it.

- Just possess. - Can't do it, just possess. Can't do it. - There is no Dana on this. - Ooh, he pumps her full of thorns again.

- Next scene, the spirits get loose in New York City, thanks to that asshole Walter Pack, just fucking unleashes everybody. Classic politician. - I sat you up for a follow-up joke. I don't know what you mean.

- Classic politicians stuff. - I thought, yeah, I was that saying. Sorry, I'm gonna do it. - There you go. - That's fine.

That's fine. - The big ending, I don't even know what to make of. Where do these stairs go? They go up. - Yeah.

- The choices made. - They're all looking in. - I'm excited to be a part of it. - Did you make a choice? The blown out building balcony,

which I mentioned makes me anxious. And then the whole state of Marshmallow and things, just should not have worked.

- Yeah, and it's amazing.

- Acroid is great in that scene. When they're like, did you, did you? - And you just say, the thing that I laughed at this time was they go, you think about who you're, whatever is who's gonna bring up and then they go,

the decision has been made, like right away. Because he's thinking about the state of Marshmallow man, the comic timing of him not being able to clear his mind, just hysterical. And then he right away knows that he's fucked up

and he checks out. - If it had been van, and he was at, and it would have just been like a 100 foot Lisa Bonet from Angel Heart, yeah, yeah. - Just fuck.

- They did that. - Yeah, they did. - He's working on a 20-year-old man. - Yeah. - The fuck.

- Oh, good.

they should cross the stream. - Yes. - Great idea.

“- And then I mentioned the closing credits”

where it just immense amount of fun. What are you up for most of you watching? - I have two you mentioned. - Okay.

- One, the first time Peter goes to Dana's apartment

with the turkey baster, and he's just like playing the piano is like, love's torture room. - It's Dr. Vankman boys. - It's like that, and then the jail, the jail scene where all the prisoners gather.

- Oh yeah. - Going into the mayor's office with Pack, and... - I felt like that was the trading place as jail. - I love it. - And they just shot it, yeah.

- Just all the guys. - The same guys. - Yeah, they just ran away. - Oh, somebody's coming! (laughing)

- But yeah, I mean, like the whole thing went pack and Vankman are squaring off in front of the mayor, but the real, what we watched was seeing is the fame montage. - So the open to me.

The first thing you see are the ghosts. The movie sets up like what the actual staff movie is. The first thing you see are the ghosts. But before you get to Vankman, it shows the library and you get the actual haunting,

'cause it's got put to your in the world, so I think that's very important.

But you know what I always loved?

The first call, the first call they ever get, which is actually filmed in the built more downtown LA. - Yeah. - Yeah, but the first call they get where they're in there and it's slimmer to me,

that's my favorite scene of the movie. - When she's like, we got one. - Yeah, well, we got one at go to air and they're like actually using their equipment for the first time.

It's like almost the ghostbusters origin story, seeing God bless you. - Sorry. - That's my favorite scene in the movie. - We should probably go to the built more

and do like a whole video shoot.

“I think the build was going to be in the 12”

very watchable movies. - Yeah. Didn't just come up until living that in LA, or my crazy. - I think the built more is where they do

the guy jumping off the roof until it was that where they did the elevator. - That's, or that was another one. - That's in the line of fire that is the elevator. - When you go there it's awesome

'cause they obviously have all of those movies - Yeah, yeah. - So you can see that they were shot there. - What's the most 1984 thing about this movie? I think the winner of this is the Ghostbusters montage,

but I think we should talk about some other ones. - Larry King taking radio calls while smoking. - Yeah. Larry King definitely. - This is actually where people ask like,

"Chris, what's your ambition?" And I'm like, "Oh, I want build to give me "a drive-time call-in radio show "that I could smoke during." - There you go.

- Done. (both laughing) - Your live, a drive-time see-on. - Hey, AJ Brown, what's up with that guy? - Chris, what's going on with the street lights?

Say he did, I love it. (both laughing) The fat holes, what are they going to do about it? Thanks for making my call. - What did they do without this copper?

- See you, Arne. I have for an 1884 runner-ups up, "Akroyd's video camera." - Oh, it's 1884. - See the Twin Towers a couple times in this,

which is tough. - Gene caseum? - Yeah. - It's just, this was like her moment between this and chairs and being married to Casey.

- So what was the deal here? Like they wanted to use Casey Casey's voice and Gene caseum is probably like, "I'll do your movie if you put my wife in the movie." - Yeah.

- Nothing she can't act, I was just asking. - My favorite runner-up for this, though, is calling someone a pencil neck. - Oh, wow. - Like that's been gone for 30 years.

- 30 years. - Yeah, that was like, that picked in the '80s. Have you ever been a pencil neck in a long time? I got a couple. One, there goes buzzers in the Amelia are asked about Elvis.

No one has any clue in the mid '80s how big of a fucking deal Elvis is death and potentially a lot of people was. - Yeah, every talking about it all the time on the front of every national choir.

Somebody saw Elvis in West Virginia with a hug and talk about it. - Yeah, it's like all the deaths from the last 15 years that were massive just combined into one death. - True, true. - That was of this.

- Try back up being fucked up. - Ooh, that's how it came up. - That's how it came up. - Goes into the air and goes. He says the neighborhood is like a de militarizone.

- Yeah. - Like Tommy Alter has a body he likes to go to that legitimately is right across the street from this Ghostbusters. - On Verk? - Yeah, right there.

You can see the thing, it's right there. Eris, fucking beautiful. - What, we go there. What I'm in New York, me and Tommy and other people, we have a friend.

- I was gonna do my Tommy in person. - Go ahead, I should do that. - Go watch most. - What is it? - What's the name of the bar?

“- I can't remember the name of the bar, I really can't.”

What maybe it's walkers? Is it called walkers? - Oh, walkers, yeah, it's walkers. - I was at walkers last time with Cooper. (laughing)

- He does the pause, because he says the first name,

but then remembers that you probably don't know who it is. So it's like I've been rewatchable with Chris Ryan. - Right. (laughing) - Cheers, it's my Tommy Alter in person.

- It depends on his way. - Still. - Stiller. - This is the Tommy Alter. - We're gonna run in a jail in front and later.

- And the last one, 1980, '48. - Yeah, in this movie, I had a bad guy. - That's come back around. - Kind of, yes, I guess, actually, I guess.

“What's take one more break and then what's aged the best?”

All right, what's aged the best? We mentioned Don't Cross the Streams, which is 42 years in counting. Phenomenal New York City movie. We did New York City my last year,

and we didn't do Ghostbusters 'cause I wanted to do it this year for some reason. But I just love how they use every aspect of the city. - Yeah, and even like that high shot when you can look down at Central Park

and you see all the trees and just like, it's just great. I love the, even seen people like Joe Franklin in there and I just, when I stayed puffed with walking around and all the cabs and shit are getting into car accidents,

I think that's Columbus Circle, but I'm just like, yeah, this is great. How the fuck did they do this?

Like, sunny every day, it's never every day.

- It's just a happy sunny movie. - There's no weather, but like the, even in Ghostbusters too, like New York, how can I say this? Like, the ethos of New York is a character of the movie.

It seems like a story that could only take place in New York. - Yeah. - What do you have for what's aged the best? - You know, actually, this is,

but just the best is kind of funny 'cause sometimes I'm just like these lines, but this is a couple of these. The logo, the firehouse, the acto-mobile, the marshmallow man.

These are 40 plus years, like, if you see that, you know, Ghostbusters instantly, like that. And it, like, they are in delible pop culture symbol, still, and they, the uniforms. So still, kids are still doing this for Halloween.

“It got brought back during Stranger Things, I think.”

It's just like a couple of really, really, really durable pop culture icons from this movie.

- The Proton Pax, they are so signature

to the Ghostbusters, Proton Pax. Also, the brands, in this movie, they got cheese, Coca-Cola, peri-a, all of this shit is still around. He's eating cheese, it's, she's got peri-a in there.

- Yeah. - Coca-Cola, I mean, obviously, Coca-Cola would be around the cheese. - The cheese that's been being won, she says. - That maybe won't, she says that. - This guy's drinking canned Budweiser, maybe won't.

- Yeah, like, all of the stuff that they didn't have is paid or not. I don't know, that's all I'll try to think, they didn't really, that was a big deal, obviously, in the '80s, it still is,

but they didn't list by the end of the '80s they were doing it. All the time. - Yeah. - I also had a nice element to this movie. It's got very little backstory. Don't really, you don't know where Venkman comes from.

You don't really, like, none of their past kind of, like, childhood trauma, and it's like that. But their financial peril is like very cute.

And the first half of this movie would accretix out

the loan and, and Bill Murray goes, "You're not gonna lose the house. "Everybody has the opportunity to work in this," he says. He's like, "Yeah, but at 19%. - Ninety percent." - Ninety percent.

- That was the guy. - That's nothing to say. - It's the best. - High interest rates. 19 percent. - Yeah. That would have been good for the 1984 section. - Yeah. - We forgot to put that in.

Yes, it's true that the man has no dick. (laughing) It's still fucking funny. Oh, he's here's later. It's like, "What's our line delivery one,

"the Jesse Asiber?" - Yeah. - That's hidden the running for best line delivery. - I mean, that's like the entire story. - Right. - That's the entire story, right. - Yeah.

The original SNL generation popping in movies with each other, which is basically blues, brothers, cadets, shack, trading places, ghosts, busters, spies like us. We're probably the big ones.

- What did that stop? I was just having a conversation at Sikomore about Conehits and about all of the movies that were right, or some of the bad ones. - Like, 'cause there are some bad ones, right?

And there are some ones that are underrated. - A lot of drugs back then. - But when did the era of SNL people-- - I mean, in Sailor's world, it hasn't ended. - Well, yeah, Sailor was the next one to do

and then Apatau, who learned from boat generations, blew it out. - And just was like-- - But they're not so big group. - It's like, well, but it's the Apatau generation

of these are my extended crew. We're all gonna be in movies with each other. - Yeah. - It's like, late 90s really odds with like,

“awesome powers, and that's what you want.”

- I think you want to surprise me. - Yeah. - I was saying what SNL was. - Oh, I guess prides, but yes, SNL, yeah. - Speaking of Apatau,

this movie's pretty legendary for the improv and all the ad-libbing and stuff. - So this is another thing that I saw a lot of debate about how much is written versus how much is improv. So go ahead.

- Yeah. - Well, I think it did influence comedies 'cause I think everything was pretty rigid with there's the script, Sailor Lines. Here's the written jokes.

And Catyshack, they ad-libbed a lot, but it was mostly 'cause they didn't have a script. But I think in this one, he was encouraging. Right, man, was encouraging the people to explore the studio space with different scenes.

And then, I think in the 2000s, that really took off. - Well, it's also these guys' idea. - Yeah. - So being a, it's their idea. - Yeah, they're right.

- And they know what they know. - Yeah, they know what they know.

"accroyed had some quote where he was like "descripted is mostly structure and exposition." And a lot of the dialogue is like Murray cooking. But then the shooting script is all the lines. But I guess there are like a lot of alt's

where like Murray's throwing out like three or four different options. So it's kind of, what do you believe? - 55 central park west. I think Wednesday, Amanda Dobbins,

we're for best piece of real estate, just great looking building. The real Ghostbusters cartoon, I have as a, age the best, that was like a real thing there for four years. - It was a big deal. - Yeah.

“- And honestly kept the whole thing in the consciousness”

between them to move. - To make the sequel happen, whether you like to sequel. - And it was, this was the,

the Ghostbusters thing is the first time as a child

that I ever experienced confusion in the marketplace. Confusion in the marketplace is something that I would go on to like experience in my adult life. Which thing is the real thing? There was another Ghostbusters cartoon.

And this Ghostbusters cartoon, - Oh, that's right. - Go in through time with a fucking gorilla or some shit like that. And so like the reason why the real one is called

the real Ghostbusters is because it was like, hey, these are the Ghostbusters that you know. But I watched the other Ghostbusters for like four shows and it was different dudes. - It was different dudes like waiting for them

to become the Ghostbusters from the movie. - Right. - And then the real Ghostbusters comes out and it's completely different. It's for some, I realize that is cute.

- I had the green slimmer as it will take the best because Acro didn't ramus really wanted the green slimmer to be like Bollushi. So they were really pushing the guy to be like, can you make this Bollushi ask?

- Yeah. - And make them like a party animal slubby and they spend a lot of money on it. And it's like really important Acro.

“It's like they feel like that's how they got Bollushi”

in the movie with this green slimmer. - That's so cool. - Yeah. - I think slime period his age really will. - Yeah.

- 90s Bixie. - Nickelodeon took it over. - Yeah, it's a good point. - At the promo stuff, for this one I forgot to mention the top, they had a theatrical trailer with the toll-free telephone number and a message with Murray and Acrode and everyone called it.

And it was for some reason worked really well with the marketing. You mentioned the Busters thing. So the Ghostbusters phenomenon you had, budget busters, crop busters,

new busters, litter busters, price busters, as Pan American Airlines. So busters just took off. And eventually became myth busters and stuff we had now. - That's okay.

- The no-go slow-go was modified to protest Ron Reagan Walter Mondale, Mickey Mouse, Union style, that kept going. And then Murray, when he says this chick is toast,

they think it's the first time somebody ever said toast

as like a slang term and then it took off. - No shit. - Oh, wow. - They don't think it existed before this. - Interesting.

- Yeah.

“- Great shot, quarter award, most cinematic shot.”

- I don't have a specific shot, but this movie shot by Laslo Covax, Covax who's like a Hungarian cinematographer, did stuff for Bogdanovich. And then winds up shooting up bunches stuff

in the 80s, a lot of New York that makes that basically that 80s New York vibe of movies that moves on from like the super gritty to the more like, hey, yeah, people can live here now and it's more street

than like, people have advertising executive jobs. And that look is very distinctive and he did like legal eagles and he did, Ghostbusters obviously and say anything. So he shot mask.

He's just like a really good cinematographer, but all of the New York stuff that he shoots, the crowd scenes and stuff are just great. - I have a great shot, Gordo. This should have one.

When they're going up the stairs at the end. - Oh yeah. - And they have that one shot where it just seems like it's 100 floors of stairs above them, but when they're 20, let me know.

I'm gonna pew for you. - Yeah, it's just really, it's a really cool. - Yeah. - Chesswap World Brockliners were for best character name. Is it Dr. Peter Venkpin?

- No. - I think it's called Spangler. - It goes with a Gozary. - Oh, Gozary, Gozary, Gozary, Gozary. Gozary, Gozary.

- Gozary, Gozary, Gozary, Gozary. - Denity is Benny Hanna Ward. Would you go Dana's apartment in the library or something else? - I had the fire house.

- Okay. - Fire house is fantastic. I like that we don't see on film that much. Have it on a green. When they're outside, and he's running through

best and trading places, like I just love the way the outside looks.

It's always like all these people that are eating in there

and not noticing what's happening outside. I think that comes out a little bit. - I stuck a category and I didn't tell you. - What is it? - It's gonna get acrimonious.

The Rose from Titanic Award for character who's sneaky sucks, Egon, oh. Harold Ramus made a choice to never smile as Egon in this entire movie 'cause he didn't think he thought and like a character would be super serious.

- Mold's in fungus and spores. - He's fine. I think of him as-- - Like you said there are the beetles that's like, he's fine.

- Yeah, well you need a ring go. - Yeah. - He's fine.

He's fine, but like what he's, he's the brain of the church. - Exactly, he's George.

- First off, crack a smile.

Maybe get two jokes in there or something. He delivers funny ones. - Stripes he's really good. - When he's like Ray, the interest rate alone after five years is 95,000,000.

- Craig, I'm closer to that. He serves the right purpose. He's a role player. - Okay, he's just set in picks. - He's fine.

- What do you have for a flex category? (laughs) - The Dorfler's door award for how much that hurt is when Vickman gets slimmed. - Aw.

- Recover's really quickly for having a physical contact with like a ghost.

“- And is it like, we do think it's like super thick?”

- Yeah. - What's going on? - Oh, Jesus Christ. - So yeah, I had (laughs) - Bill's about to build caught himself.

Bill was like, isn't it thick? - Well, I just had to remember her. I said it next, it's very true. - I just, and then I was gonna try and do a book about metals for this movie and it's the whole movie.

- Right. - When he got slimmed, did he paralyze him? - That's what I'm asking. - Yeah. - It seems like he was like, I can't move.

- Yeah, it seems like the slim, so go over him. - He's Sean Penn, I brought my own pack of words for excellence in on screen smoking. - Accurate. - Accurate's dangling cigarette thing that he pulls off

where I don't know how I kept it in his mouth. And apparently, no, he's observant thing. - Yeah. - He just knew how to do it.

There's a 59 second smoking super cup from this movie

that I sent you guys. - Wow. - I watched it. - It could have been longer. The Butch's girlfriend award for Weeklink of the film.

- Oh, this was tough. - Come on, Van. - This, this, this was tough. I really could not think of a weeklink and I'm not gonna give it to Ernie Hudson

on this goddamn podcast. I really thought about this. I wanted to push myself to think about a weeklink in the movie and I could not think of one. - Every character that speaks sorely.

- Are you saying this 'cause you're like, you're like, you don't want LeBron to talk bad about Memphis, like you don't wanna talk bad about that. - No, I mean, if you were gonna give a weeklink, that would be the sore thome, right?

- And I'm not, but even he is not a weeklink.

“I think he, well, don't do a drive by in any pots,”

just because you don't want to speak bad about it. - It's not in any pots though. - Okay, to me is not in any pots. Any pots is an important character too. I don't think, I don't really don't think

the movie has a weeklink. I'm being for real. - I, I agree with him. - I, and I don't have any. - It comes through.

- Let's go ahead. - Here we go. - I think it's Winston, see? - Yeah. - Let's go.

- Let's see your podcast. - Let's do it. - It's Ernie Hudson aside. - It's not an Ernie Hudson thing to do that, you fucking, it's not an Ernie Hudson thing. - Yeah.

- I just don't really understand why he shows up halfway through the movie, and I think the whole thing, I agree with. - You want to work for three Ghostbusters? - I agree with you. - I agree with you.

- But he just shows up. - So I just need, what they would need 10 more. - Well, that's what, I mean, any point. - And I gain, like, you promised me more. - I get in theory there, like, he's gonna be the every man,

but I don't feel like they really nailed the character. It's just, all the sudden he's just kind of there.

- It's how he never really has his moment.

- Well, guess what? - I understood 'em. - I got exactly what he was putting down. He's the one that talks about believing in God. Like, do you believe in God?

- Yes. - He's deep into Ghostbusters. - I love Jesus. - I don't think they had a scene with him that explains, like, why I'm supposed to have a connection with him.

I would compare it to in the NBA season during the Trade Deadline, when it's like, we need a shooter, it's like, we've got carousel of vert, it's carousel of vert now, he's on the pistons. - It's like, that's a great idea, carousel vert.

It'll get, and then you never figure out how to use carousel vert. This is their Trade Deadline middle of the movie pickup, but I don't think they totally figured out how to incorporate it. I mean, I think he feels the two, which is why he seems to have a complicated relationship.

“- I think his character is probably the person”

hurt most by its Craig Hall back in number of running time, where it's like, there's just not enough time. The obvious point is there's a moment in the mayor's office when he's like, you're honored, I want to speak for myself,

and you could see Vankman peel off, and they're like, oh my god, here we go, he's gonna try this. - I just had more questions and answers with, like, does he like the other Ghostbusters? - Well, he's therefore a job.

- Right, I mean, does he like these guys? Does he believe in what they're doing? This is not worth another five grand a year. - Right, I think they needed that character because the movie got increasingly fantastical

as it went along. - And it's overnight to success. They do one job at the hotel, and then they're at fucking studio 54 the next night. - And it's cool to have like a little bit of like,

hey, I need a job and like I'll just do whatever you guys say if the money is right. - And it's, but you, so you would say this was perfectly executed 'cause I would disagree. I wouldn't say that it was perfectly executed.

I wouldn't say that it's not pronounced enough to warrant criticism. I understand why they did it. I think it probably made sense in the room. I don't think they executed well enough in the movie.

There you go. - He needed like, either one more scene where I'm like, oh man, he really needs this job. I didn't realize he had this hardship in his life

oh no, I'm attached to this guy. - We want to kill the man. - Why? - So make him put him in the movie. - He's not really given enough.

- He's like killed a man's wife. - They're in the prison scene. He seems like angry.

“Like he seems like he's mad at the guys.”

I'm like, don't be mad at my guys. - He's mad at my guys. - Why would you think? - Yeah. - That guy in that situation would be mad

because he met these guys and ended up in jail. - I know, he's facing me. Like what do you think? What do you think? - It took us better if he leaves and he's like,

you guys are fucking crazy, I don't know. - He's also the one who's like, you can't just go to the mirror and be like, it's biblical end of time. - Right, yeah.

- So he's the one that's sort of tempering the movie because the movie becomes a full on science fiction fantasy in the third act. - Yeah, in the last 10, 50, 20 minutes, it's like that.

- This was fun, no? - What are you gonna do? - I can't wait to hear your hottest take. Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ, me one less job in the town.

That's what Bill said. - I'm glad he's in the movie. I just thought there's like a scene missing. - Yeah. - Yeah.

- My main link is Walter Pack. - And it's not because I don't think William Atherton

is basically the prick of the 80s

and is an iconic asshole in these movies. So I wanna say it. - But I think he could have used either a little bit more juice like a slightly more earlier appearance, like maybe he just like his whole thing

is like two scenes and it's like everything that happens could have happened by accident without the EPA throwing off the-- - Yeah, it's a good point. - What's age the worst?

Ghostbusters too, just a money grab, yeah. - None of us feel great about it. - The handling of the franchise in general is probably a bit a little bit. I have three more sequels, also shameless money grabs.

- Yeah. - Across the board and the off email ghostbusters is one of the worst movies in the 2010s. It's really bad. It's just bad.

It's bad movie. - Well I'll tell you what I thought. I thought I was very important movie. I thought I was movie to have to be made. I thought I was movie for it's time.

“I wanted to see a film where are you running for mayor?”

(laughing) I'm fucking with you. It sucked. I'm like, oh fuck, little terrible. And I remember trying to walk myself into loving it.

Like I'm sitting down. - You're really good people in the neighborhood. - Hey, hey. - The movie is, everybody is dead as nice at what they do.

The writer, the director, all of them together. It just didn't fucking work. - Did you watch either the Jason Wright movie? - I after female ghostbusters, I was out. - Okay.

- Yeah, I was like, you know what, I feel the same way about a lot of stuff. If I remember correctly, the thing is weird about them is they are not without some charms. Like Carrie Cooley is really good at it.

But you're just kind of like, why is this ghostbusters movie so cool on like, it's not like, I mean, there's too much talent on screen for just to be like totally whack, but the fucking shit didn't work.

And the ghostbusters that they made, the subsequent ones, the first one not actually kind of enjoyed.

“But I actually thought it was pretty cool.”

- What did the sequel? - The first sequel that they made. - Yeah, it was all like this, the goo underneath the city and stuff. - I actually enjoyed that.

- Okay. - I had for what's aged the worst. Really tough movie for cable for about 15 years 'cause of the pan and scan. - Oh.

- Because, and you can see it now on the wide TV. This was filmed like a wide movie. And on the pan and scan, you just miss a lot of stuff. And everything feels really tight. This is how they did it with the square TVs.

And it just was always like not the best watch.

And now it's a great watch again because the TVs go wider. But I thought it had some sort of figures. - A couple of visual gags here that I only noticed like, this time around we're when Dana first comes in

to the fire house and she goes up to Annie Potts and then Marie just pops up and then we'll get into the frame and runs over the half wall, it's great. - We mentioned the I want a new drug controversy. And then the only other one is William Atherton claims he

became reviled after the movie. - Well, I mean, then he was such a bad guy and that people would be like, "Hey, dickless!" And just like, we're really bad at him for a few years. And then he's like, "Fuck it, double standard, does die hard."

I have to say this, I know, you know, people think that I have no taste in movies. I love Ghostbusters too, love it. - Didn't you just start with, I thought it was okay and now you've gotten to I love it?

- No, not in just like five seconds. - I don't think that I, if I was saying I thought it was okay, then like I love Ghostbusters too. - Okay. - It's hard for me to look at the movie as bad.

I've got my message. - Yeah. - The stage of glasses on. - The one thing that H boiling this movie, it's some of the establishing shots look boarded.

They look like, "Oh yeah."

- Yeah, like that is always a thing that stamps a movie

in the time. Like some of the establishing shots in the movie, they look sort of animated and rendered in a way.

that's basically matte paintings and stuff.

- Yeah. - And they use those as establish shots

“and like that stuff never age as well to me”

when they do stuff like that. - You didn't have anything else? - I just Peter Vankman using his position as a professor at a extracts actual favors out of students and clients.

- I just thought that was part of the job. (laughing) By the way, there's a question. When Vankman is in there with the girl, with the psychic girl, right?

With hilarious scene, wave your eyes all night. When he tells Ray to come back, right? In an hour and an hour and a half. Does Vankman think that he's about to fuck? - Yes.

- In the like, well, if that's the case, that age tore up the terribly. And by the way, an hour and a half. Told you, nine minutes. - Absolutely.

- Floor. - Roughly hand a Rubin and Partridge over acting award. The person playing Goser. - Yeah. - Who was that?

- Uh, that's a good question. - They said they wanted Grace Jones and she turned it down. - Yeah, I think it was person that you get when you can't--

- So they made some of the things. - Someone look exactly like Grace Jones and then to the aesthetic. Oh, Van, you have a Flex category. - Flex category.

- Another list. - Slotvia Yovad. - Okay. - Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. - I mean, there's no picture.

“- All right, Van's Flex category has got to list.”

- Top five big actors of the 80s. You see these guys, you know that they're playing. - Oh, okay. - Oh, that's like actual decks. - Like they're not actually decks in real life.

I'm sure these guys are lovely men, but these guys play the assholes of the 80s. - Okay. - Okay. - Number five, Thomas F. Wilson.

- Oh, Biff, Biff. - Yeah. - Back to the future one, back to the future two. Now he doesn't have the dick catalogue of some of these other guys,

but Biff is just all the time.

- Hall of Fame, first bow at dick.

- Yes. - Not only that, Biff, Biff, Cycle Paneth. - Yeah. - Killer. - Biff wants the kill.

- And Biff wants the kill. - And Biff wants the kill. - And Biff wants the kill. - And Biff wants the kill. - Number four, Paul Gleason.

- Yeah. - The breakfast club, trading places. - Oh, yeah. - He plays, I make $30,000 a year. (laughing)

These kids are gonna respect me. The top three is where it really gets tight. 'Cause the top three, - 'Cause you need after change in there. - Yeah.

- Number three, William Zabka. - Okay. - Billy Zay. Money, Lawrence, Cruddy Kid, just wanted a guy's and chess. Back to school.

- Chess. - Yeah, back to school. - Top two, a dick diver, a dick diver.

Top two, we basically got LeBron in Jordan.

- Yeah. - It depends on what you want. - And it's Adderton and who? - Spader. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - Adder, like, it depends on what you like. - I mean, to me, spader is playing at another level. - Yeah. - You think spader is playing at another level?

- Yes. - You think about Adderton though. Spader is number two for me. Pretty in pink, baby boom. Whatever movie he was in.

- Can you get slide the other way, too? - Sure. - Should be a decent guy. - That's the problem. - It could only be a dick.

- Adderton, Ghostbusters, die hard. Don't forget, real genius. Also, in real genius as the terrible professor. - Oh, that's right in real genius as well. Like, that's three in terms of the movies I love.

All time, heavyweight assholes.

“Do you consider spader a dick in sex lies in video tape?”

- Kind of, kind of, yeah, but yeah. - Kind of. - It's kind of a romantic. - I kind of want to do sex lies in video tape. - What do you mean, kind of, where it's on the list?

- That's my mom's favorite movie. (laughing) - Yeah. - Your mom's favorite movie? - Yes.

- And the folks I'm talking about. (laughing) - Yes, it is. - That's a bad room's classic. - Would she do it with us?

- No, but she's asked repeatedly when we're doing it. - Okay. - She thinks it's the hardest cinema. That in any haul, she wants us to do that one, too. - No, she can't believe we haven't done a Woody Allen movie.

- Bill's mom. - Bill's mom, do you get that sponsor? (laughing) - Who was bought today? - Homer.

- Homer? - Yeah. - Yeah, it would be alcohol. (laughing) - We have a class sponsor.

- Josh White's friend, thank you. - So, after 10, number one. - I got after 10, number one. I feel like real genius put him over the top. - 'Cause when I was thinking about it,

- Let me think about this. - When I did have the trilogy, - I did. - There's also like a definitional thing 'cause you're going with like dramas and comedies here

and I wonder whether or not in the Schwarzenegger 80s action universe, - The Robert Patrick. - Yeah, there's a dick sentence in there. - I thought about Gene Hackman,

who also tended in this thing. - The only one who feels like he's missing is Bert Young because he played Pauli, the worst character, but he had to make a room. - But I did make a room.

- Distinction between dick's and villains. - Yeah, not villains, but dick. - Because of that guy's face. - Cherry and another 48 hours. - That's just the bad guy in toy soldiers.

- Oh yeah, yeah. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - But that's your favorite picture, Deva. - Yeah, that's more of it. - And Robert Davy is a big one for the movies.

That was the goonies.

- But the worst side could be in there, too.

“- Yeah, I think you landed in the right spot.”

The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford, how to stay forward. - I'll go last 'cause I think you guys are going to get up and leave. - I think that Ghostbusters is the best movie

to ever come out of Saturn in our life. - And I will include not only movies based on sketches, which is how we probably usually think of SNL movies, but let's go Elf, let's go Bridesmaids, let's go Winsworld, Tommy Boy,

like I'll include a bunch now when you Austin Powers, but when you get to, you know, is in glorious bastards of Saturn at live movie because my ears isn't at no. It has to have like at least a couple of characters,

people from SNL and have like an SNL sensibility. - And it has to be like relatively close enough when they're on the show. - Yeah, yeah. - It can't be like 28 years later.

- But I think this is the best movie to come out of Saturn in life. - I think it's clear the question is what's too actually, because when I think about all the movies that we could compare to, there's a huge, huge gap.

I mean, Wayne's world of the rest of those movies were like phenomenal, but there's a huge gap. - It's trading places count. - I think so, and I think there's a world in which anchor man counts.

And that would be the competition. - But I would say it's clearly the most successful of any SNL movie ever. - Anchorman, even if you were to count anchor man, it's just like in no way shape or form

“if I could go as much as I think it was.”

- No, it was almost like a slow burn anchor man. - Yeah. - That's pretty good, see? - What are we leaving out of? - No, I mean, there's a bunch of the fair on movies

have to be mentioned. - Yeah, I mean, stepro doesn't tell a digger, but a lot of those movies. - There's no easy way. - There's no easy way.

- Like, happy Gilmore has to be in there. - Yeah. - Any Murphy movies? - Yeah. - Like the other movies.

- Yeah, it's hardly made really. - It's just Eddie and those movies. It's like they come from like a creative nexus. - Right, you need like at least two people - I think it's also lasted the test of time better

than any SNL movie by far. - It's better than Bruce Brothers. It's better than-- - Yeah. - Bruce Brothers is more culturally expired.

Ghostbusters is still super popular in favor. - Yeah, thank you. - Huh. - Yeah.

- Okay, I've never seen them out of the house.

- It's really only pollution that so that doesn't go. What's your hardest thing? What right do the Ghostbusters have? To put Ghost in jail. I never thought of other Ghostbusters to fucking police.

“I think to myself like, guess it's my Uncle Mark.”

Rest in peace, right? Let's say that my Uncle Mark who spent a lot of time and go to the state of Penitentiary pass the way once they come back and visit me. What right do the Ghostbusters have?

- This is to incarcerate-- - First of all, it's like a immigration issue. - Ghost in jail. - Ghosts were, if this was happening in 2026, we now know how you would be tweeting about Ghostbusters.

I would have to ask the question. The reality I never thought about this before my life, 'cause I think my brain was regular before, and now it's worked. But like, I thought about you get to go

and a police action against a ghost. Tied a ghost up. The woman that was in the library that was clearly her job. She was shushing people. She's the work there.

- Yeah, what was Slimer doing? - Yeah, what's like, I'm just saying I think he's hanging around. If the Ghosts are acting on Rulie, that's one thing. You talk to the Ghost, give the Ghost Therapy.

Whatever you do. - Well, this is where the EPA comes in. - But what was it? The EPA environment, who what gives them the right? - No, I think what they're saying.

- No, I think what they're saying. - We haven't really vetted what these guys are doing. It's a private transaction between the person who calls the Ghostbusters and the Ghostbusters. 'Cause the Ghostbusters are like,

when he's like, I'm not gonna pay for this. They're like, well, we'll just let the Ghost back out. - Well, yeah, right. So the Ghostbusters run a nuclear power private prison for Ghost, and I don't know, like, was that a good use

to city resources? - I don't think that's right. - Yeah. - Well, you know my theory with Ghost. What?

- You gotta just talk to them and get to a good place with them. You don't, you don't become adversarial with the Ghost. - So that's gonna do as many things. - So what if I would be like more of a social outreach, kind of Ghostbusters?

- I would be like pro Ghostbusters. - For Ghostbusters? - For Ghostbusters? - Like, have you any help, you guys? - Obviously there are some ghosts,

ghosts possessing people on our stuff. You gotta bring consent in and do all that stuff. But like, for the most part, I don't know that they have the right to do what they was doing and it kind of pissed me off this time.

Like, got you.

I have a second how to stay real quick on.

Dana's a fucking gold did it. - What do you mean? Dana, very clearly this vankman, when he first came to her apartment. - Oh, that he wasn't in the stratosphere for her?

- Yeah, she very clearly didn't she. - He's dating the guy who's stored naffron. - She was dating him. - But you know what changed? What changed is she saw vankman on

to he became a small business owner. - That maybe came a small business owner. - He became a celebrity. - Yeah. - And even when he comes up to her next time,

when she sees him, she smiles.

- You know what? I respect it. - Yeah. - She's a classical violinist. She's tall and she's hot.

And she's not gonna date something. - She's just making her way through her 30, 80s. - She's got guys who run restaurants, coming after hedge fund guys. - She's kind of like Eastern people.

- We're lying in people. - Gordon Gickle is at the garden. - At least we're not came made a run in her. Like she's got a lot of options. - Lawrence Taylor called.

- She dated for our king, but then the new injuries kind of took him out of me. - The next birthday. - And then she was out. - Yeah.

- Did she go for Dennis Peck? - Oh, yeah. Dennis Peck. - What's your, what's your, how to stay? - Yeah, you guys are gonna be happy.

- I think if Sigourney, and Kathleen Turner switch movies in 1984, everyone wins. - So what's, we're missing the story. - Sigourney does romance in the stone

and jewel the Nile and Kathleen Turner does. Ghostbusters one and two. And this movie goes to another level.

“And when she's possessed, I think, I think I'm dead.”

I think in 1984 that's it. I have like a testicle explosion. (laughs) I'll just dead. (laughs)

- He exploded. - What, what is leading you to wanna improve Ghostbusters by five of us? - I was just doing, yeah. - The whole point of the hottest take award is

the hot take you forget. - I just think you switch Kathleen Turner and you want Kathleen Turner and Eddie McLean.

- I think Sigourney would have been amazing

in romance in the stone. - But she would have, she would have really worked. - She said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - And we're so many we've heard does, does war of the roses?

- Like, does she take the Turner spot? - She does war of the roses. - Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. - We just do some switch arouss. Maybe Kathleen Turner is in Dave.

You forget what type of time Kathleen Turner was. - I wasn't. - I didn't forget. - That's why this was my last take. - Damn, she was the flower.

- She was Kathleen Turner in the mid-80s is to me all the time. - Time for a while, go superstar, right? - She just oozed sexuality in every moment of her life. - Your testicle would explode.

That's what you said. - I said there would have been a testicular explosion.

“But why, why, why, but do you feel like a part of this?”

You feel like she was maybe too smoldering for this move? - Yeah, she's too hot for Ghostbusters. - But the thing is she was miscast or romance in the stone because she plays like this bouncy romance novelist.

She's like, it's unleashed by Michael Douglas, swashbuck who's in this adventure. And it's like, that's a better cigar than a river world role. - Kathleen Turner is like, I'm a hot,

classical violinist, and now, I'm possessed by Zool. - Are you just looking at pictures of Kathleen Turner? - Yes, I've heard of Dan's gone. - Yeah, man. - We, we, we, we're gonna take what we're breaking.

- Kind of rally band.

- I've never really, yeah.

- All right, casting what ifs. There's a ton, including Chevy Chase claiming in 2018 that he turned down Venkben. - Yeah. - Again, all I have is the sniff test for these.

- So, which one of the-- - That one didn't smell right to me. - Let me ask you this. - Do you believe Chevy Chase and Bill Murray have had a weird relationship for 50 years?

- I've been through with a phone call. - And he's like, yeah, I could have done good. - But I believe that there's also like, in the half-ess internet research for this, there is just a real like,

Bill Murray is not in your movie until he is in the first place. - Do we have backup plans? - Yes. - Was there a phone call possibly?

- I'm going to read you the what ifs that are listed on the AirNet for fanglement. Just give me the one that you think is the most interesting here. - Okay.

- Michael Keaton, Chevy Chase, Tom Hanks. Robin Williams. - I don't believe that one. - Steve Gutenberg, Noah. - And Richard Prior.

- Okay.

“- So, I believe Keaton, I don't believe Hanks.”

- Keaton was the one that I thought was the most interesting. - I think he's made a ton of sense and I think he would have been good in the movie and I'm a pro-Michael Keaton. - Keaton has played versions of this role.

- Oh, yeah. - Yeah.

- He's basically this in Gungho.

- Gungho. - Yeah, in Gungho. - As you know, Billy Blaze Jasky, I think is one of the funniest characters in the history of anything. And I think he could have just been Billy Blaze Jasky.

- From his family. - From his family. - From my shift. - From my shift. - The one I was most interested in was the Egon rumors.

Christopher Walken, John Lithgow, Christopher Lloyd, Jeff Goldblum. - Goldblum seems like he turned it. - Goldblum turned it down. - Did he? - That's what that was in the research,

but then you read the right-man story. And it's like, yeah, it was our first. - But it doesn't like Ramus eventually became Egor, but Egon, yeah. - Egon.

- Who's Egor? - The guy in the Nets? - Egor Damon? - Eventually became Egor Damon, I'm the Nets. Egon.

- I love that those are the two things you got your brain. But I wonder if there was a moment when he didn't think he was going to be in it. - Yeah. - Goldblum, I think, is really good.

- The walk is interesting. Goldblum could have done it. - Send me walking, choose up too much scenery. - Do you want to add you Murphy to play Winston? - No.

- Well, but that's said, he Murphy. - Okay.

“- But what version of walk and would you have wanted?”

- Would you have wanted Deerhunter?

- It's basically any hope.

- Would you want to rule that? (laughing) - Guys, when the Deerhunter will be watching us, will we do that? - Have you seen Deerhunter?

- No. - Deerhunter. - We talked about it. - Yeah. - Talk about it, movie that obliterates the Hurobex scale.

(laughing) - I think it's a lot of flowers. - A lot of flowers. - Yeah. - But it moves quick though.

- Lots happening, every scene. - Apparently Deerhunter, Denise Crosby, Julie Roberts, and Kelly LeBrock, all addition for Deerhunter. - Julia Roberts?

- She was too young. - In 1984? - Yes, she was. - I don't know if I believe that. LeBrock's interesting.

John Candy offered Lewis to turn to down. - Wanted to do Lewis with a German accent. - They definitely went hard after John Candy. - And he just didn't get it. And then Sanja Bernhard turned down Janine.

“- I think we wind up in a right place with everything.”

- Right. - And then Paul Rubens was allegedly gonna be gozer

for a second, I don't know if I believe that one.

- Yeah. - All of these, I just don't know if I would. Best that guy. So was William Arthur 10 of that guy? Or was he William Arthur 10?

- I think you can throw him in there. - He probably of that guy. - Yeah. - See that guy to you? - He is of that guy to me.

- Yeah. - So he's the guy. - But he's that guy from that hard or that guy from Ghostbusters. - Correct.

- I think he is the one who plays the mayor. - Oh my God. - That guy's a really good guy. - Jennifer running was a stealth. That guy.

- Sure. - She was an up the creek, Charles and Charge whole season. That key not only to an episode and she played Cindy Brady and a very Brady Christmas all in like five years. - Mm-hm.

- Damn, waiters award. Moranis is in too much. - No, he's not even three seeing it. - No, he's the, he's in the whole guy. - I thought I'd ask you for a second about Deon.

- Deon, is it about a screen time limit? It's about what you do with your screen time. - He's like the sixth lead in the movie. - Come on, the movie guy. - The movie guy is the sixth character.

- Help me out here. - No, he's clearly right. - He's in it for like five minutes. - He meets her outside of her apartment. He has his party.

- Yeah. - gets chased. - Then he does the same as the apartment. He has the whole party saying he has the whole case scene. - We didn't even talk about enough

where he's just like, do you want some coffee? Yes, have some, like it's any smelling the fucking landline. It's so funny. - So is there any Hudson eligible? - Yeah, but Ernie Hudson is not.

- He doesn't clean it. - He doesn't fucking pretend to start shit. - Okay. - You want to double down?

“- All right, if you want to make Moranis eligible,”

that's fine. - I mean, you think Craig is the eligible? - I just looked it up. - He's in, this is according to AI, eight to 10 minutes of this movie. - I can't be right.

- Eight to 10? - Get down, no, it's not even roughly eight to 10 minutes. If you can't talk in the intro version, can you get an actual run time call or chat? - Chat, G-P-T.

- Would you have any pots? - No, I think I had to have Moranis. I just want to make sure you're dead. - I think she's lovely. - Yes, she's fine.

- She's good, she's good. - I like to read. - Yeah, her accent is crazy. - Her accent is crazy. - Out of control, hidden on Egon, all of that.

- Yes, she's good. - Recast and couch director, city. - The John Candy one really stuck in my head. - Okay. - He ends up doing splash, so he's represented in 1984

in a good way, but it's just a really interesting twist if he's that character. I don't know what's better, 'cause that thing Moranis is great. - Yeah.

- Craig did his flex. Half-assed internet research. Columbia had Frank Price who ended up becoming a great teammate of Michael Eisner's and then died tragically in a plane crash

when he was the number two guy at Disney. He became the head of Universal. After he bought the script and believed in the script so much, he sold Columbia the title for 500,000 plus 1% of the film profits.

- There you go. - Moranis on the right. - Fuckin' Frank Price. - Thank you. Richard Edlin did all the special effects.

He used part of the budget to found boss film studios because there were like no special effects studios back then.

Made Vans $5 million and started the whole thing.

The Marshmallow man of it designed by Bill Bryan, who modeled his walk after a Godzilla, 18 foam suits cost almost $600,000. And he had to have a separate air supply because the whole thing was so toxic.

- Marshmallow was running down the crowd with shaving cream and gave a lot of people rashes. - But you know what, I was thinking like, it's getting forward was great. - That would be so dope if it was actually Marshmallows.

- And you're actually actually on the set of ghosts. - It was supposed to be Marshmallow, you're here for five years. - The original library goes puppet was too scary and had to be given in the freight night movies.

- Oh, oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah.

- You mentioned the bill more. - There is a deleted scene where Ray

“is a sexual encounter with a female ghost.”

They decided to cut, sorry, man. - Wait a minute. - Well, Ray does have it. - He does have a sexual encounter with me. - Well, not a sexual encounter with me.

- Like he gets his-- - He gets his-- - His zipper tight. - I think, but I think there's like-- - Oh, that's right.

- That's the one that's right. - He's running down. - I think it goes further. - Oh, OK. - And then the rooftop, the final confrontation

was at a sound stage that required 50,000 amps of electricity, you're properly lighted. And Columbia had to shut down all of their other stages. Well, they did this because it was so much electricity. - Jesus.

- I run it. Like almost a parallel to the movie. - Apex Mountain. - Oh, I have one more piece of internet research. From the Vandy Fair, kind of not an oral history,

but it's like a making of ghost boosters piece.

When they're basically waiting to find out

whether Murray's going to do this movie. And they're not sure until like the day of the movie. So Murray flies back to New York after the Razor's Ed shoot. This is from Vandy Fair.

Ramison, right, and picked him up at LaGuardia Airport to show him the rework script, quote, bill flew in on a private plane and our late Ramison in the 1985 interview. He came through the terminal with a stadium horn. One of those bull horns that plays 80 different fight songs.

And he was addressing everyone in sight with this thing. They had to drag him out and take him to a restaurant in Queens where they showed him the script. And he had no input and just said, I trust you guys. He's not a movie.

That would have been good for the Steven Singal category. Apex Mountain Murray, I think, yes. - Okay. - Yeah. - Arguing me for Groundhog today, but yeah.

- Accurate. - I think Groundhog Day is a good, no. - After this, it's like, I mean, he didn't work for four years because this is a movie. - I don't love life.

- Groundhog Day becomes like this. I get it. Accurate. - Probably trading places. - Well, he wrote this though.

And he basically kind of is the custodian of the Ghost Busters franchise.

“So I think that in some ways this is, it's a...”

- Apex. - I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Groundhog Day to me is for Bill Murray, with you. - Sigourney Weaver? - No, no, no.

- Alien aliens. - 55 Central Park West. - Yes. - Ramus. - Ah, yes.

- I guess probably doing being a director. - It would be this for Groundhog Day. - Probably Groundhog Day. - Yeah. - Stay pup marshmallows?

- Yes. - Real brand? - Is it? - Yeah. - Is it?

- I thought it was. - Did it look up? - Ghost movies? - To me, I think it is. - This is a ghost.

- This is the debate that I'm here for. Is it ghost or ghost busters for the number one ghost movie of all? - For me, it's a ghost movie of all. - Did you do ghost with us when we did that on Rewatchy? - Well, not.

- Now as you mean Amanda, where you said that this is your idea of the afterlife? - Yeah, I thought that was, I thought what happens in ghost is what happens in hell. - Is it just got the ends when they bring Willie Lopez,

they pull him down the shadows, come out and pull him down and the ground, that's what happens. - Oh, wow. - Okay. I think they really figured it out.

- In the real-- - Like, you're like, what happened? - When you look all of that stuff and then the fucking shadows come out and pull you down, it was very sad, see.

Which one is it? - I think it's ghost busters. - Ghost busters are ghost. I think it's ghost busters. - I would've put Poltergeist in the running too.

- Poltergeist is cool, but Poltergeist is cool. I think it's ghost busters, but it is like, oh, it's razor thin to me, ghosts, it's like such a thing. - Some other people might be like,

it's paranormal activity or it's, it's, it's conjuring or something like that. - Paranormal activities, really good. I like that, Muffie. - New York City movies?

- No, no. - Ernie Hudson? - Y'all? - What else was he, this is biggest thing? - Well, he plays the special needs gardener

and hand that rocks the cradle. - Yeah. - He was in us for a couple of years. - Well, he plays the warden. - That's right.

- He's good in us. - I like Ernie Hudson. - Yeah, don't try to stay on that side. - I am, right here, it's like Ernie Hudson. - Stay on that side.

- I like it, I don't think that part was Ernie Hudson's fault. Ernie is the man, but this is probably what he's best known for.

“- I think so, he's one of the ghost busters.”

- Is he in the sequel? - Yes, yes. - Is he in a larger role? - Basically the same, a little bit larger. - Rick Moranis?

- No. - No. - It's honey, I'm sure. - It's new. - New York City Library, since.

- Yeah, it might be. - Yeah, I think you're New York City Public Library, probably.

- The Central Code Tell, never heard of that before this movie.

Anything else? - Turn it into dogs. - Oh yeah. - Could it be? Think about other, I mean, turn it into dogs.

There's, I mean, there's twilight when you turn it to a wolf. There's other stuff, but it's just, yeah. - I was gonna say, it's hard to articulate what exactly is the apex mountain, but one of the things that

like the occult architect who built in like a special metal

“to make it a super conductor of paranormal stuff.”

Like it's, I've got five condos above a trader Joe's. Like nothing's gonna happen there. - Yeah, it's a good plan. - Ghost combat. - Last one, is this the apex of Ghost combat?

I'm asking, 'cause it's actually Ghost. Ghost fighting with Ghost. - Tesla and with Ghost. - Let's say Ice King Ghost Mars. - It's a pretty good Ghost combat.

- I think it is. - Cruiser Hanks. - I have Hanks. - Hanks. - Score says it or Spielberg.

- It's real tough. - It's tough. - No, it's not. - You know what? - It's a Marty's version?

- No, it's a Marty's version. - I think that's fucking us. - Travis, it's cocaine. - It's a Marty's version. - It's a Marty's version.

- Yes, you're so fucking boring with this one. (laughing) - The van lathe and award did this movie need more black people. - Nah. - Picking that's.

Is Dana's apartment too nice? Feels like it is. - So that feels like an apartment that it's like me, Rogers's apartment, and someone to watch over me. - It's not like the single most coveted spot in New York City.

- Yeah.

- Is that your part West has always been one of them great,

you know, real estate. - Am I a picky apartment location? It might be that literal apartment. - She's got one bedroom. Like it's not like she's living in a panhouse.

- It is very nice. - I think she comes from money. 'Cause I think she calls her on. - That's right. - Yeah, that part is like bankfin.

'Cause he doesn't have any bread. She's a concert, jealous, or whatever. She probably puts all the finest schools, fucking sore bone, wherever you go. Where we go to do that, I don't know you go.

But she would jule or wherever you go. - Tune in there.

“And so she went to all that, and that's what she's doing.”

That's why she stuck up. - Goes bring her back down. - What I had for her. - Another edge about Dana. - I didn't like that part, man.

I don't, don't front of me.

When I come over there to help you with the ghost situation,

then after I blow up, you want to be down, you don't front of her. - He's turkey-based in her apartment, and it's like, when can we get changed? - That's facts. - I had an ex-pick-nits.

Why did Dana like Bankman, what turned it? But we already talked about it. - We already know. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Probably lost up.

- A little cash. - Well, my only other one is, I just think conjures of people would have been killed by falling debris during good things. All the people that were in the bottom of like looking up,

they're out dead, or just things are falling down, hitting them. What do you have CR? - For picking nits? - Yeah.

- I really like, like, your point about like, what gave them the right and would there be any oversight? For the more like, the New York City being in a paranormal pandanmonium,

“I think would just be a much bigger deal.”

I know we see a brief moment of like the national guard coming out, but I just don't think they would leave it up to these four guys who got dead at NYU or Columbia. - Yeah, this was a city that protested the premiere of the Warriors.

(laughing) They would have the paranormal activity would have been, would have been tough. Why are the Ghostbusters allow to have a blueprint in jail? - Oh, yeah, dude.

- Why do they have their in jail? They're looking at a blueprint. - That was privy jail though, where it's like a big, it's almost like a big recessed. - They take your stuff, and put it in the theme,

but they're letting it move in. - I think it's like a whole thing itself. - Okay, holding stuff, whatever, they had other models. - I don't even know if those music got in process.

- Why are they allowed to have a blueprint in there? To like look at a blueprint and stuff in there. - It's a good run. - Secret prequel prestige to be all bypassed on touchable. Sadly, we got sequels.

This should have been an untouchable. - Sure. - We should have been done. Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Fergi the Flores, Ryan Rucco, Cust Johnson?

Same low, what do you got here? - I got Zane, when Ghostbusters shows up. - It's just like Zane, it goes a ghost that goes Aryan. - It's great to see you, man. All woman, because you take many forms,

just like your music. You music is undefignable and so are you. But I have to say, good evening, and as a duly designated representative of the city, county, and state of New York,

I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity. I'm returning forth with to your place, Origin, or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension. And we'll be listening. - Zane was worthy.

- Yeah, Zane was worthy. - I was seeing this time. (both laughing) - I want to introduce Shaquille O'Neill, oh my God, as the inside the NBA analyst,

analyze it in the Ghostbusters movie, and just saying, I thought the best person movie was go through the Missouri. (both laughing) - And then everybody can't guys, okay, cool.

Then they go to commercial. On this, just want to ask her who gets it to saw. Bill Murray. - Thank me. - Bankman for a best actor.

- Yeah. - The song that ripped off Huey Lewis gets best Oscar. - Well, not they didn't know at the time. - The bankman, I have a bankman. - So you've Bill Murray winning the Oscar.

- I'm gonna look it up. - Is it gonna be like racism? - So that's not, not in my nose. Gandhi, 84, let's kind of guess. Gandhi, no.

- Sure, it's a fire, no. - I just called to say, I love you from woman and red. - No, that one, the Oscar, you see, we won. - F Murray, Abraham, and Amadeus. - It's fine.

- Jeff Bridges and Starman, Albert Finney under the volcano. Tom Holtz. - And Amadeus.

“Honestly, I'd Sam Waterston, the killing feels was really good.”

- He's really good. I'm just saying I'm not as far off as you think. - I like it, CR, I respect it. I think that could have been room for Albert Finney under the volcano.

I don't know what the fuck was going on there. - Yeah, how do you back home? - Thanks, bud. - Probably an answer for questions. We just have to play out.

Is this movie better or worse with Belushi

and then Bill Murray and the answer is it's worse?

- Yeah. - I love Belushi, that was one of my guys. I do think he needed this and the Belushi IMDB if he had and like lost his mind and you know, thought of a drug overdose.

This was the kind of movie that I think would have been great for him. He just didn't have it. He didn't have like a leading man trying to be like dashing and just nothing like this.

- He just probably went, Bill Murray was writing it for him. - He died on that. - I mean, that's not correct. He was still on this climb when he passed. - Yeah, yeah.

- I think this would have been a huge one for him. - Sam similar would you rather would be? Would you rather of this movie come out five years later, six years later, slightly better special effects? - Now, 'cause I really feel like 84

was the quintessential year for this to come out. I think it's like perfect timing of it. The Floyd Gondolly butter in my ass and Lally pops up my mouth award for something I just enjoy.

The keymaster, just a great nickname. Why don't we do it? - Yeah. - How was KD not the keymaster? - Oh, KD to keymaster. - Yeah.

- Well, they got, if you do a keymaster, you have to also have K-keeper. - So it's maybe that so Jason Tatum could have been the keymaster and Jaylem Brown could have been the gatekeeper. - The gatekeeper and the keymaster.

- Yeah.

“- Well, you have to have people that like each other.”

- And you have to have people who know Ghostbusters. - So you can't have those. - Maybe like, yeah, that could be Steph Castle and Victor Weminiala. - Yeah, you have to have teammates that could have been the keymaster.

- Wendy's the gatekeeper, he's closing the door at the back of the play. - Keymaster's really good. - Yeah. - They'd really feel like we were playing.

- My Floyd is a Bill Murray working around.

- So when they first get out of Ecto,

when they get up to Dana's apartment at the end. - And he's just like, you know when you love 'em, it's race dance, it's just like the guy has the city in the palm of his eyes. - Yeah, this is crazy.

- Mine is the fire place poles that you slide down. - Ah fuck. - Oh yeah, good one. - Well, like, let's go. - I'll get that, I can put that way up there.

- Well, I love that joy. Remember the old Batman show? - Yeah. - When they would start off as a guy. - Oh my god.

- What are we doing? How many of these high powers does this have fucking fire poles? - I haven't seen any of these. - You know what happened?

“The poles turned into stripples for strippers.”

- It's not like somebody fell. - It's not thinking about them being conventional going from up here to down here and just thinking about women dancing on them. One of my days, I've seen some amazing things.

- The secret handshake club Memorial, memorabilia, you'd want from this movie. For me, it's one of the proton packs. - There's prepared to be four total. - And we can't do acto one, the car, right?

- No, but that car is pretty crazy. - It's also a great one. - When he pulls out thin mirrors, he's like, you can't park that. - He can't park that here.

- And the look on Mary's face when he tells him how much he paid for the car. - Yeah. - Then in on him and he just like gives that look is like 4800 bucks.

- And these two shocks, the brakes, the brake pads. - Yeah, how much, how much? $400 a little, the look that he gives. That car's still out there. - Yeah.

- They have it out there when you go see it.

- I always want one of the proton packs.

- I would do Ghostbusters jumpsuit. - Mm, yeah. Coach Finstack, Mr. Maggie, we're best worst life lesson. Ghosts are fucking real.

It's my lesson. Don't underestimate them banned from them. You know, I believe in it. - Best double feature choice? - I have a big trouble on little China,

which I probably have picked before, but has a similar comic sci-fi element to it. - I have to blues brothers stay in the center. - It's a long fucking night. 'Cause blues brothers is a long move.

- I had cop. - Let's just go 84. Beverly's cop. - Oh, thank you. - Oh, thank you.

- There's a gentleman. - No, Beverly's cop, because cop would be amazing. Who won the movie? - Mary. - Peter Vinkman won the movie, my friend.

Bill Murray. - There's a right in case. - Yeah, for sure. Looks better than it's very well directed.

- He's now with this movie becomes.

Not only the premier comedy director of that generation, but as a director and producer, it just becomes a fucking juggernaut. Goes right to Arnold Schwarzenegger, which is the kindergarten cop,

and has this crazy run from what's 79 to 93 all the way through Dave, 15 years, and Ghostbusters is the NBA finals MVP for him. - 'Cause you think about it, not not slagging John Landis in Australia,

but if John Landis is directing this movie, there's like a 20-minute car crash scene in New York City, like way more stay-puff Marshmallow man than you need. There's just a lot more action, and Wrightman just seems to know exactly

why people will respond to this film. - Yeah, I had a bad joke. - I would go right, ma'am, but you guys, who do you have for this? - Not a good Murray.

- Murray carries the hell out of this movie. - Not that it's like, he's the only reason it's good, but he is, - He's somebody who's like, why do you think Bill Murray's funny, at Show 'em Ghostbusters?

- Yeah. - And also feels the most like he, like the lines were not written, and he was coming up with them,

“which I think you also have to give him credit for.”

That's kind of my takeaway, seeing this movie again, 'cause it has been a really long time. - It's crazy to me how movies like this, that feel so like, I don't want to say unfinished, but movies that feel like to kind of make it up as they go,

or it's like, the script wasn't really finished.

Bill Murray just showed up last second.

There was something I was reading about, Annie Pots just like showed up, the day she needed to shoot, they had like no costume for her. She took like the hairdressers glasses and put them on, and then just wore those for the whole movie.

It's just, so haphazard the way these things are thrown together. And it's just, and now those glasses are kind of like, iconic, they're very good. - Yeah, and it's just crazy how messy those these movies were of this era and how they worked.

And now if that just wouldn't happen, everything would be so finished and glossy and purposeful, and safe and safe. - I think ultimately what's AIDS investment is movies is friends being in movies together.

Which is just like you don't really see. - She's just friends in movies. - That's a good call. - It is a good call. - Let's make a movie.

- We should do it. - We'll probably be about the four of us. - Four of us, trying to find a bar and San Francisco after a live show. - That actually would be a really good start.

- Have a crazy night movie. - Have a walk, six tenths of a block downhill and Mallory's dying and then something happens.

- No, we record a podcast in a house

from a famous movie and then something happens in the house. - The Boogie Night House. - Yeah, we're in the Boogie Night House. - Oh, interesting.

- Yeah. - Or in the Halloween House recording are rewatchables. - I think it's a one crazy night. - Yeah. - It's one crazy night.

- It's one of the five night to the year that you're like, we're drinking tonight. - Yeah.

“- You know what, you know what the name of the movie is?”

- Dan Zoder and Pete says that we order a piece of the bar, the movie is called. - What is it cocktail that you were kept getting? - I share it with you. - But Dan is something.

- But Dan is something. - Dan and Ramma, Dan and Ramma, the name of the movie is live show and it's about live show. - Yeah. - It's about doing a live show and a place

is the big live show and everything goes wrong. That's name of the movie live show. - Yeah, we learned that night when Vance says, I shouldn't tell you this 'cause I've had too much to drink. - That's true.

- You know, it's a fucking buckle up at that point. - Peacekeeper, that's a good bar. - Peacekeeper bar. - Peacekeepers. - Great bar.

- Great bar. - My bar is the San Francisco open, this is 930 at night. - Every day. - I said that to a couple of people who stared at me like I was out of my mind.

So obviously we were in the wrong room. - We probably were on the wrong part of town, but whatever they talking about, they full the shit 'cause we would go places there'd be like, it's not 15, get the fuck out.

- And then we went and got coffee. What was the name in that place? - Coffee movement. - Coffee movement. - Coffee movement.

Way to the online for 10 minutes, which violates everything I believe in. - It's closed. - Then everything. And then they only had 10 ounce cups.

- So you got two. - So I had to get two 10 ounce coffees. - It's really funny. - And guess what? - It was fucking delicious.

- It was worth it. - I'd wait on that line again. - I had a fun time. - Man, I rode the trolley. - Yeah.

- We went to the game. - It was a mess. - It was a mess. - Crowd was great. Crowd was great.

The theater was great. - Yeah. - Great theater. - Everything ended up being great. - Tony V, making moves with the giant plane.

- We were at that one place. That was at the top of the hotel. - Top of the mark. - Top of the mark. - Yeah.

- Had drinks beautiful. We were starving. - Kicked out. - No food. - They looked at us like we were the fucking outsiders just walked in.

- Yeah.

“- It's definitely a secret handshake club city.”

And we didn't know the handshake. - No no the handshake. - For food and bars. - But I still like San Francisco. - Um.

- The NCR. - Thank you. - Craig Gahau. - Thank you. - Thanks to Eduardo as well, anybody else?

- Matt. - Matt. - Shout out. - Next month where it's gonna be a comedy month. That's what's as a joke.

We're doing a bunch of comedies. - Okay. - So stay tuned. Thanks guys. - Bye bye.

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