How To Become Your Most Aligned Self: Healing, TMS Pain, Manifestation & Self-Accountability Ft. Elizabeth Endres Orrigo

Put this in the wellness box. Elizabeth Andres Arrigo is on the show. You've seen her on Instagram, she's a wellness entrepreneur, storyteller, and the host of the wellness process, which is a podcast and platform exploring the past to be coming your most aligned self, which is on dear media, too. You may also know her formally as the co-founder of Swets in the City, so we're talking about overcoming chronic health struggles, discovering TMS, the power of mindset shifts,

and her journey of becoming a mother. With that, let's welcome Elizabeth to the Bostics. We had some of the girls in the company saying, you know, at one point, we were like sending them to some studio on Canal Street, and I was getting some people... Yeah, I'm sorry, I hope you're okay. I'm actively traumatized from the studios in New York City. I'm going to call it out. I cannot believe that the biggest city in the world, is it the biggest city in the world?

One of them is not the biggest city. It's one of them, has these recordings, and there's like two. There's where I go, and there's one other one, and it ain't good, you guys. And listen, like God bless the people that are, I mean, it's hard because podcasts have blown up, but yeah, Carson is the studio ready, because you were just out there. It's ready right now. Okay, I think Carson is out there. I haven't actually been out there, but yeah, the new dear media offices are open there with studios, so you can go there.

“Can't wait. Yeah, you should go pop the cherry. 100%. Yeah, get me in there for the announcement one.”

Well, I guess like you don't have to be as careful. Yeah, it's in the flat iron area. I always think like, can I announce where it is, but yeah, New York, like it's fine, just safe.

Dear media, come into New York City. Elizabeth is going to go... It's there, it's open. It's ready to go. It's hard cast there. It's great lighting. It better be bright light, soft, whimsical, smooth our skin, make us look good, flatter the videos. Chris, be video. I mean, you got to get it. You got to get it. I heard that they're the best studios that we've done so far, because we're getting ready to do that.

We're overhauling, we're doing, moving offices in LA, overhauling those, and like it's like one thing at a time, but yeah. Okay, Elizabeth, you have quite the story. I am very interested. I think in starting with your chronic health issues. Hmm. I'm curious, and I'm sure the audience is too of how you go from having chronic health issues to where you are now, which to me, you look like you're thriving, you're skin, you're hair,

“and all looks beautiful. So, to walk us through that journey. Okay, so I think the right place to start”

is going back to childhood. And I think a lot of people listening will resonate with this type of person personality that I'm going to describe, which is very perfectionistic, type A, super sensitive, the one that's called like the sensitive one in the family who tends to develop chronic things, whether that's IBS, migraines, back pain, skin issues, gut issues, like you name it.

It's the type of chronic stuff where you go to a million doctors and everyone's like,

I don't know. And, you know, there's so many things like that. So, I kind of had those type of conditions my whole life. It was chronic strap. It was, in my 20s, I was getting diverticulitis, which is like super rare when you're young. I was hospitalized for it all the time. I had crazy acne, like mid 20s. I have a heart condition. There's like been so many things. Heart condition sort of its own thing. Heart condition from birth or heart condition that you discovered? Actually discovered at 19

had to get a pacemaker. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Was passing out. I actually went into have a colonoscopy, because I had a lot of gut things going on in the anesthesiologist was like, I can't put you under you of a heart block. My parents were like, what? And I literally got a pacemaker a couple of weeks later. Your poor parents, that would freak me out. It was so bad. It was a lot.

“I two questions before you continue. Did you ever have black mold in your house?”

Then I know of, however, I've obviously gone down that rabbit hole since. Okay. And did you have pandas? No. Okay. I know. Super randas to one of those. I think and no doctor has said this is what it is. I was taking Adderall in college. And I think as a super sensitive person, a Starbucks, a couple shots of espresso and Adderall, like I think that can mess with the electrical conduction of your heart, which is the kind of issue that I have. Absolutely.

Well, you know, anytime we say things like this, you're not a dot people get it. But I was just making your heart beat fast. You anxious where you felt like you were like two wired up or what? All of it. And by the way, that might not be it. I don't know. I've been checked for everything. Like my mom, both my parents are nurses. So in this happen, they were like, we went down the infectious disease rabbit hole, everything. And really what it's come down to is like if it's not

broke, don't fix it. The pacemaker works. I've never fainted since. I was fainting like badly.

Like, would have to be ambulance to the hospital and stuff like that. And go back to when you were

It was a lot of going to the doctor antibiotics. You know, I was just sort of like the

“difficult one. Like I said, both my parents were nurses. So I knew a lot. Maybe that was actually”

to my detriment. But it wasn't until COVID when things really came to a head. And now that I know what I know that's not a coincidence, right? Like, I was living alone in my apartment in New York city. I had just gone through a breakup after many years of being living with someone. I was super anxious about COVID at the time because we didn't know what we know now. And you were in New York. Yeah, in New York solo mesh. Like, it was, it was, it was crazy. You know, they were like body

freezers on the street. Like it was like really bad. So not coincidentally, my anxiety was at an all-time high. And I was having skin issues. My scalp started getting like sabriac dermatitis. I had a lot of stuff going on. The craziest and worst symptom that I had was pelvic pain. So it started literally

pretty much exactly when the world shut down. And it basically felt like I had a UTI all the time for

years. I wouldn't wish that all my worst enemy years. Like I saw every doctor. I did every work up. I did PT for my pelvic floor. I flew to Kentucky where a doctor told me I needed two years of antibiotics. Like, I would have gone to the end of the earth to figure that out. And I obviously assumed that there was something structurally, physically wrong with me. Fast forward, it's end of 2023. So I've been dealing with this for three full years. Now of just every day just burning pain. And, you know,

it's hard when you have like a pain that intense to think that it's anything other than medical instructional. And I discovered this woman Nicole Sachs who was put on to my radar by a friend at the time. And it was kind of pre, you know, the world is kind of going in the direction of nervous system regulation now, right? Thank God. But it was kind of pre that. And I'd heard the term a couple of times. But I was like, my issues are not that, right? Like, I have like burning pain.

There's no way that's happening, you know, from my head. I discovered this woman's work. And it was just one of those moments. I don't know if you guys have had those where something just clicks and you're like, that's my path. Like, it was just it was a pain. I don't know what else to call it, but I followed it. I got her book. I took her course. And within a couple of months, the pain started

“to dissipate. And I know it sounds insane. It doesn't sound insane. You know why?”

No, no, no, let her finish, let her finish. It doesn't sound insane. I know you can't wait. He can't wait about this. He's literally frosty. He can't wait. He's literally frosty. I'm going to balance it. I'm going to balance it. Oh, thank God. No, I had. Oh, you go ahead. It basically, the premise of this and we'll get more into it is that there is this condition called TMS. Oh, my God. I'm in the TMS. I'm in the TMS. I'm in the TMS. I'm in the TMS syndrome.

No, I see. I told you. I told you. I'm so glad you can't, okay. No, no, no, no, no. We're going to go to the world. Literally it's dropping on his tap dancing shape. No, go ahead. So I discovered TMS. I'm like, that's me. That's me. Type A perfectionist overachiever has bottled it in my whole life. Subconscious, down in the subconscious. Oh, deep. And I start her practice, which is a 20 minute a day aggressive daily journal dump. That's it. That is literally all you do. You're,

you're not just writing. Oh, this is what I did this morning. Like, it's nothing cute. It is

ethos. I hate that. You're saying like the things that you would never want anyone in your life

to hear you say. And then you rip it up. I am telling you, there is nothing more impactful that I've done. I've been trying wellness things for 10 years. If everyone in the world did this practice, it would be an entirely different place. Have you ever read? Okay. So here's how I discovered this. And it's this what I'm trying to explain to Lauren. I had this chronic back pain I hurt myself as

“this whole thing. I remember you talking about a lot of podcasts. And I remember saying,”

Michael has TMS. I was getting a massage. I was so aware of the guy. And the woman asked me, like, what's, and she, she was this older woman. And she said that she met this very wealthy guy in New York that had tried everything. He was like, done everything. And one day he discovered this book by this guy named Dr. Sarno. Dr. Sarno. Yeah, you know. And it was called Healing Back Pain. Everyone's back and she got it. And essentially, she's like, he said after reading the book,

halfway through the pain went away. And so I read this book, I was sitting next to bed and Lauren, and I told her and I learned about TMS and the same thing as you. It was like, oh, I'm like, that's me. Some conscious this, that, and what happens is, and I don't know if you're trying to

this, they basically say most people think they have this because it's triggered by some kind of

injury, but then the injury is like the thing. You hold on to the pain of the injury, which by the way, mine started with a UTI. My body remembered that pain and didn't let it go. Same with a lot of and it messes with the people because they think it's so structural, because they threw their

And that's like not possible. Yeah. And so what I found is like, and I recently got an extra and they're like, it's structurally really good. It's exactly what you're saying. It's in our subconscious and what I realize is that what I took away from it and I don't know if it's the same for you as that. Sometimes the pain in our subconscious is so great that we transfer the pain to a physical

“thing somewhere else. Yeah. But as soon as you realize that that's what your mind is doing,”

is it's taking subconscious pain and moving it and you are aware of it. Just the awareness alone makes the pain go away. That's what happened to me. Awareness and belief are two of the biggest pieces. That's why reading the book alone can mitigate pain. Hold on. So crazy. How did you know to read this book specifically? I saw Nicole Sachs Instagram, who by the way was a patient

of Dr. John Sarano and is basically like carrying on his work because he's since passed. And I just saw

her Instagram. I started looking through her content where I was like, by the way, you have to have run the podcast. By the way, Lawrence writing this down because you're telling her, but if I told her, she's not interested. No, I'm interested. It's just like, how interested can I be when you tell you narrate everything? Go ahead. So I discover her Instagram. I look through some of her content. I immediately see myself in what she's talking about, similarly to you. And I go to her website.

There's a course and there's a book I buy both. And I just dive in because, by the way, the beautiful thing about a rock bottom, which I would definitely consider to be where I was at that point with my pain and just like life. The beautiful thing is that it opens you up to things that you maybe wouldn't have otherwise entertained. And a year prior, if you would have told

“me, your bladder pain is TMS. I would have been like you're out of your skull. So I think timing”

is really important for people. Not everyone is ready to hear this. I just so happen to be thank God, ready at that time because I really needed it. And it it changed everything. Well, I would consider myself not so much, not actually pretty open, but more resistant, more analytical than more, not that she's not in it. But I would, like, meaning like, I hear about some of this stuff that'd be labeled woo and I'm like, I'm much more skeptical than more.

You've opened up so much. I've cracked you like a fucking egg. But to your point, what I would say for the people that fall into that camp that were more wired like me, that are hesitant, that are like, no, where's the evidence? What's the advice? For those people, this guy, Dr. Sarno starts his book by saying that he's writing it for doctors in the future that are be more open to this idea and this thought process that the subconscious is connected to more than we

believed at the time. You see, he realized at the time he wrote at the medical community, would really push back on it. But then there's no ask in the book other than just understanding the symptom in the syndrome. Being closed off to that, how has this opened you up energetically moving forward? I totally know what you mean and in so many ways because

I was always someone that was like, I should meditate, I should journal, but I would do those things

because I was checking them off a list because I felt like I should, right, which is not the right way to be going about it. I didn't know any better. Obviously, I don't fault myself for that. It's shown me that there is something greater going on, right, that like there is that energy is real, that subconscious is real. I don't know. It's, it's just deepened my belief and understanding in some of these practices that like if a daily journaling practice can make my

debilitating pain go away, I don't know. What else can I do? I don't know. It's sort of just opened up my perspective to these kinds of things. Here's what it is for me, too. It's like someone of means. I can talk to the best doctors and I can use the peptides and I can do all the best physical therapist and go to none of it worked. None of those people helped. Not to diminish them. They like all the doctors, all the peptides, all the therapies that people do when

“they they're able to do it didn't work. The only thing that worked for me was an understanding”

of this and as soon as I understood it, it the pain all went away and I was battling this for years and you know, you saw it's like debilitating. And then you went and got your Atlas trusted. That's another story. But the point is, I look at it from the approach of like if you're someone who's hesitant, which is definitely me, I did all the other things that all the doctors and everybody prescribed and all the medications and all the Western medicine and none of it worked.

As soon as I did this and understood about this, it went away. So like that's what sold me on this. And then as I've gotten older, it's clear to me that of course we bury trauma and of course we bury things on some conscious and of course we're like suppressing these especially if you're wired, how I think you and I are. My whole childhood was like buried it down deep. Like don't, you know. And so if there's pain that I probably am not even aware of, like who knows what

that's manifesting with that's creating. So I think it's an awareness as soon as you become aware of it,

that you aren't then able to kind of start dealing with it in the first place.

100% and I will just add that for the naysayers, which I totally get, that was me. You me, a lot of them. We've tried everything. You name it. I have tried it. I've done the weirdest things. Biomagnatism, bladder installations. Like I tried to go the medical route. By the way,

much deeper rooted than that. And it's a daily practice that I still do every single day. What do you think was when I say causing it, meaning like do you think it was from something

“when you were little or do you think it was a bunch of events that happened at once?”

So the premise of TMS in general, and I think this is what applies to me, is that your body would rather feel physical pain and discomfort in conditions than whatever is going on emotionally beneath the surface. So the way that it's described is it's sort of like a

protective mechanism. Your body actually is always working for you. It's never working against

you even though we so often feel that way. And in this case, the rash, the pelvic pain was actually distracting me from all the emotional stuff going on internally. I was busy. I was running from appointment to appointment. I was obsessed. It became my whole schedule. And your body is like, yeah, you were doing our job because she's not feeling whatever like pain and sadness. And by the way, I didn't have any big tea traumas. So this doesn't necessarily mean that. Of course, it absolutely

can. It can just be the little stuff that you suppressed and that adds up and that your body gets very used to kind of being in this like perma fighter flight. That's interesting. I have a rash that won't go away. I need to read the book. What kind of rash? It's just like an axima. It's like no. It's just to rash on my legs that when I get stressed, it like acts up. I think the biggest takeaway is that journal. I'm going to start the journal. So you're saying to do 20 minutes a day,

give us like give us a few lines from like if you're being really honest from a journal entry.

Okay. So I like to start it and there's really no right or wrong way to do it. Everyone's always like

trying to do it the perfect way, which is part of the TMS problem. I start with how does it feel to be me today. And like when I've been very nauseous recently, he was really fucking bad to be me today. I feel like I should be really grateful and instead I'm pissed. I feel like nobody understands. I feel like my husband doesn't understand. You let it rip. You say you hate things. You say you hate people. It's stuff that verbalizing even right now feels so shameful, right? You don't just keep saying

it out loud. You're just writing it out. Yeah, you're just writing it. Yeah, you're not saying anything. And yeah, it's the stuff that I feel like big people's biggest mistake that they make if you could make a mistake with journal speak, which is the name of the practice is that they don't go the layer deep enough. They keep it surface. With practice, you won't uncover layers. It'll start with someone pissing you off at work. And the next thing you know, you'll be reminded of the fact

that no one in your childhood took you seriously. And you always felt like your ideas were squash.

“And that's why the girl that was copying you at work got to you. That's why you're the thing that's”

great when you get it out. And it's out. And then for me, the reason that I don't like I would be like I don't want to write that down because I don't want to have it as an affirmation. But I like the practice of tearing it up. Yes. So if you get it out and then you tear it up, that's what is intriguing to me. I think the biggest thing that I realize through this process is that the mind is much more powerful than you give it credit for. And like you used, you know,

people talk about manifesting or they're people people talk about like positive minds. It's you don't realize like that it's also the opposite like the negative thought process that are too painful to deal with that you very super deep. They don't just go away. They're in there somewhere in the subconscious. And then it translates to pain in other places that you may not even realize. In my case, I like I start thinking of like, I don't know what kind of it. But as I've gotten

through going and going, I'm like, oh, there's probably some stuff there that is just that I've just suppressed for a long time. And the mind's really good at kind of like making you forget and repositioning it to pain in other places. Well, it's really interesting because my favorite book on the planet is you can heal your life. I gift it to everybody. I love that book. And it's all about holding pain in certain areas. Like she talks about how sometimes people who have been molested will

hold pain in their cervix and get cervix cancer or people who are dealing with problems with their father will the pain will go to their right hip. If you have problems with your mother, it goes to your left hip and she talks about how what you're thinking and what you're feeling manifest in certain areas of the body for certain reasons. She talks about breast cancer and she says that that can be from helping too much, which makes sense because the breasts are used for feeding.

Yes. It's really, it's what you guys are, Louise. Hey, Louise. Okay. I need to read that. I haven't read it. You don't know that. Why I just want to do this? Yeah. I thought that too sad, but I just want to do this. Oh my goodness. I thought that too sad. Okay. So but it's very much, it's almost like what you're saying is very much in her line of work. But what I like about what you guys are saying is the journal part

“where you write it all out and you get it all out because you have to get it out. You can't”

bottle in it. Exactly. And by the way, this can come in so many different forms. You look at all these somatic practices and like energetic release and even just like sitting here shaking your hands.

while if I'm writing all these negative things down isn't that going to like manifest more

negativity and what I always say to that is those thoughts and feelings are there anyway. Right.

You could get it out. Put them on paper and get them out or let them manifest as migraines in back pain. That is a very, very, very good point. And by the way, TMS is not just like for me about like there's headaches, there's ulcers like if you go through the list of symptoms, so many things. There's yeah, there's so many symptoms beyond like you might like you might be sitting there listening to you. I don't have back pain or headaches. Like there's a million different

pain symptoms from this thing. What if you come across a journal entry that I've paired up that says I'm going to fuck my husband up today. I thought like you was going in the right direction. I do have a confession. I don't always rip my up. And I just trust that my husband would literally never because by the way, if he read it, I would know it would show. That's like my little book and he just doesn't. I mean, I do my best to rip it up. Sometimes it just feels like

a task at night. I do the writing before bed. I do my material every day, every day. What do you

think, first of all, you have an announcement? Why don't you make the announcement? I am pregnant.

Oh, we're announcing out on the show. We should have like some kind of like balloons fall from this feeling or something. Should have done the gender reveal here, guys. Yeah. So exciting. Congratulations. Thank you. How has this practice helped you with your pregnancy? Okay. Two parts to this. The first part I'm going to be really honest. First trimester has been absolutely brutal. And it's been very hard to show up for my practices. And I've had to kind of

learn that some level of fluidity and flexibility has to be allowed. And that's also the case with journal speak, right? Like I do it every day for the most part. I had about a 300 day streak of

“doing it in a row. That's how dedicated I was. I've loosened the grip a little now. And I think that”

that's normal and should be the case. Like Nicole Saxo says, like this shouldn't be a lifelong prescription because then you're bound to it. Right. All of a sudden you're like holding it really tightly like everything else in life. Yeah. So I think there's been that piece that I just want to be honest about. The other piece is feel like one of the greatest gifts you can give to your children. And I'm not a mother yet is a regulated nervous system. Like to be not super reactive to have like

a baseline to have a daily practice where you can release things and not take it out on them. And and also just like from the idea of the environment that I'm building this child. And like I like to think I'm decently regulated now after all this work. It doesn't mean I'm not susceptible to bad days. I've been definitely having them. But yeah, it's it's further motivation to be bringing life into this world to continue my practice. Also, and you mentioned this a little bit,

but the environment that you're growing the baby in. You don't, for me, I didn't want to be anxious and, yes, depressed and upset. And you have to work at it. A regulated nervous system you have to work at. I think it's not a one and done. No, it's it's also constantly relearning. Like yeah, I'll meditate like you said for like a hundred days in a row. And then I'll I'll stop for two weeks. And then I have to like relearn to like go back to it.

Yeah. It really is a practice. Yep. And it's like I swear every time I get off the meditation train or even like with this journal speak break that I took because I was so nauseous.

“You have to like re-identify with being a person that does that. Right. You know what I mean?”

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a meditation or breath worker journaling or whatever. It's that I need a practice of solitude during the day. If I don't get that, my body will actually wake me up in the middle of the night and

that you call it a prescription of solitude. And I don't know if that's just being a mother of three kids. Sometimes you don't get that solitude, but my body will wake me up and remind me to just be still because I play dead like an apostle all the time. I'll be a cortisol issue learned. But no, I play dead. I love the body's doing it for you. You'll see when if you have three kids, you're going to play dead. I pretend like I'm asleep when I'm awake. No, fully awake, fully awake,

pretending I'm asleep. Just full of pasta. I don't start being like, are you asleep or are you

awake? Because that's offensive. No, but I think like the, you know, I always, I hear these guys

and girls talking about these extensive routines and practices before they have children. And what I would, would, when I think about that, I'm like, oh, well, you know, like if I even need to go and put my shoes on and walk outside the door now, it takes like I have to take five deep breaths and figure out how I'm going to get out, right? So like listen, again, people parent and it's hard, but

“I think you have to be even more intentional when you have children because the time gets tighter”

and you're constantly interrupted and somebody always needs something from you and so it's harder. And I think for parents listening out there, like it's easy to let a lot of this stuff fall by the wayside and stop taking care of yourself because all of a sudden you have these kids that are

demanding so much of you having these practices in advance and just like being a little bit

kinder to yourself knowing that like it's not going to be perfect especially when the kids here. Yes. You know, your recent engagement was something that you said you manifested. Talk to us about that. Yes. Okay. So going back to when I discovered journal speak end of 2020, three, I think it was. It was in a relationship that I knew was like coming to an end that had been very long term and I ended up ending that relationship. I actually saw and I feel like you'll

appreciate this a psychic around that time who was like, so this was February of 2004. And she said, I was going through the breakup looking for a little guidance and she was like at this time next year you're going to be engaged. And I was like, Jamie you're out of your skull. There's no way like I'm I just got out of a relationship. I also move very slowly. She described my now has been literally perfectly to a T. I mean the psychic. I got you but you can't we got to

keep Jamie tight and I know a lot of people are going to reach out about her. Oh, by the way, she's in Texas. So I have that call simultaneously. I'm doing a lot of manifestation work because I had gone through this breakup and I had just discovered journal speak and I was starting to feel better. I was just feeling motivated, right? I had started actually that to be magnetic, you know,

Lacy Phillips. I don't. I saw that on our notes. She's amazing. So she has this program called to be

magnetic that I actually started at the end of 2003. She has like an end of your challenge that's she is like the queen of like neural manifestation and neural positivity. It was very early to the manifestation game and she has these programs where she basically like helps you to rewire your thoughts. She has these things called deep imaginings that are like sort of self hypnosis and the idea is that we

“manifest from our subconscious, not from our thoughts. And so this is where I think it gets really”

interesting with the nervous system stuff because I believe that our external world is a reflection of our internal reality. Absolutely. And it makes so much sense because when I was in so much pain, I was also in the wrong relationship. I also felt stuck with work and when I started to shift that, there was just this momentum that could not be stopped. You're out of alignment. Exactly. All of a sudden my health problems got better. I met my now husband. I started a podcast that's

like definitely aligned with my purpose. Everything shifted and so I think meeting Clayton was a big part of that and I really like worked hard at it. I did the to be magnetic challenge. I made this list of my perfect partner and I worked on changing myself internally so that like my vibration matched the person that I wanted to be with. Yes. That is so important. That in my opinion is how you meet the right partner. Yes. You cannot sit there and ask for all this stuff

from a partner and have this laundry list of things and not be vibrating and having the same things within you. It's like one of my friends, I told the story before on air, he's sitting there telling me that he wants to grow with perfect teeth. She's got to have perfect teeth and a perfect ass and a thigh gap and I'm like, let me see your ass. Let's see your thigh gap and what your teeth are literally rotting out of your skull. They're yellow. I said that to him. I'm like, this is not fair.

You cannot expect all these things when you are not embodying the things as well. No, but really what it is is like, if you explain it in vibration or alignment, whatever it's fine, but for people that are not into those words, it's really this false expectation that you deserve greatness

“when you're also not taking care of the things that you need to be taking care of yourself. It's this”

idea that it's an external problem and that you are not the problem. That's the thing that I see

always is beyond them and outside of them. Or it's the government or it's the or it's the way they

were raised or it's the place they live. It's it's it's it but until anyone takes personal accountability for the things that are not going right in their life and realizes that they are to blame most likely and that it's not external circumstances, nothing will change. Imagine if I was running this company and every time something went wrong, I'm like, oh, this team member of fucking cars and didn't produce the show. All that's just right. The company would go to the ground. A lot of leaders do

that and they wonder why they don't have companies. But if instead you say, you know what, everything's my fault. I didn't give the right direction. I didn't look at that the right way. I didn't listen. I didn't hear like, I cannot wait to replay this clip when we get in the fight. But advice

versa. But the point is, I think sometimes people are talking about like alignment and vibration

all that it really is a personal accountability thing. Absolutely. Yes, I think it really is required of us to take accountability for ourselves and see where you know, a lot of people look at break up, serve past relationships as these failures and it's like, what was I doing wrong that like that's

“where I was at that that's what I attracted. It's it's much easier to blame things around you than”

to look inward and say, oh, you know, I'm probably not living the way that I know I could be if I actually took some personal account. Yeah. I think that's an important point though when you're if you're dating someone and you break up, it's like what you you mentioned earlier, what frequency were you vibrating at to attract that? And if you change that. And by the way, that's a good point. Your partner may be a total piece of shit, but you are the one that is attracting and putting

up with that piece of shit. Right. Like it's not so I'm not saying that like there aren't bad partners or bad circumstances or bad parents or bad jobs or bosses, but you have to own your part in that and like why you're staying or why you're accepting or why you're still participating. We're not blaming, but there is some level of tolerance that happens in these relationships, even if it's just a stale relationship. So what happens when you get engaged?

The psychic was right. Psychic was right. She was off by four weeks. I mean, that's pretty insane. She also said that I was going to be pregnant and I'm not sure what. And she called out the gender. She also said that my next round of kids will be twins. So let's let's just put that here right now and we'll see what happens, but that would be insane. Is there twins in your husband's family? My dad's a twin, my grandpa's a twin and I have twin cousins. Oh, wow. Twins are wild.

Wild. I don't know. We haven't experienced that, but whenever I see people doing that,

“I'm like, well, that's intense. It's crazy. You have to like basically double up on everything at”

the same time. I don't know. And they're feeding off of each other and it's madness. Yeah, that is madness. Yeah, parents, I can do that. I'm like, damn, you're in a different level. It's super heroes. So now you get engaged. And what are you vibrating at? What's the difference is between you with your previous relationship to now with the person you're with? I would say that

with Clayton, there has always been from the day I met him, a certainty that he was my person.

And I know that that's not the case for everyone. So I'm not saying that that's prescriptive. But I think he and I had just been holding out for it to feel really, really right and to not ever settle. Unfortunately, a lot of people settle. We both felt that way from the beginning. And then with engagement, it was also not one of those things where I was like, when are we going to get engaged? Like, what's the timeline, Boba? I just knew. There was just this

confidence and knowingness in the relationship. I think on both of our sides, where there was never any pressure. We just knew how it would go. We knew we'd get married.

“And that's how it all worked out. I think that that's attractive too. When you have the”

confidence that you don't, you're not like, where's the ring? And when's this? That confidence, I think, to me is sexy. But touch a laptop with a 10-foot pull. That's it. That's not nice. Next question. Why? If you're perspective, you're the male and the male. That's why I'm not giving the perspective. I don't want to hear about it. You can use us as an example. I'm not coming. What's your perspective? I'm not coming. Why? Because I'm

already getting enough lock as it is. All right. It's also, I'll save my goal here. It is also applicable to dating, I think. This, again, energetic, vibration. Is there this desperation to your dating patterns where you're like, I have to meet a husband, like, that the clock is ticking, blah, blah, blah, or you, like, where I was when I met him. Confident in who you are, really happy living alone and being solo and being like, God, if I bring somebody into my life,

they've got to really add to it because it's good. I think subconsciously, nobody wants to feel like you're a person's only option. Yeah. Like, I don't want to date someone and feel like I'm the only option for them. And I think vice versa, you don't want to be with

400 years and I still have options. Don't ever forget it. No, no. My options are going up

by the day. My day profile would be like, Lauren Botstick's ex, that's all I would say.

“Me, like, you know, I said, they'll be like, are we doing things giving with Lauren?”

I promise, I'll probably, I'll probably use photos of yours right here. I'd use photos of you and me. Yeah, I'd use photos of you and me. Yeah, I'd use photos of you and me. Yeah, for sure. For sure. You're just like, put the defaults, so it's just my face. Of course, because you, she is the photo. You validate me as the guy. To be like, if she would have wanted this guy, then maybe he's must be something going on. That's actually insanity.

It's not insanity, the girls out there know it's true. All the girls know it's true. You're just some guy holding a fish. That's not good. You're a right profile is going to say Lauren Botstick's ex. Yes. Okay. For sure. Just so we're clear. I got the profile reserve just in case. Sorry. I don't like

sloppy seconds, so whoever gets him, it's fine with me. I never know if it's your sloppy

seconds, people might say the stock is rising. Maybe, maybe. So talk to me a little bit about what you just said about inner confidence and not attracting people, things, relationships. I think that's really important. Outside of the relationship piece, I'm going to talk about it as it pertains to my job, because I think that's kind of like another area that I've grown in through this sort of just getting my inner world rearranged. Confidence and work in the way that you speak about things,

in the way that I feel like now with my work, I only do things that feel really good. There's like a different level of self-worth. I think that has increased in all of these areas, dating definitely was one of them where you're like, I don't know. I just, I have no choice but to be authentically myself. And so I just feel like it shows up in a different way and people have a different level of traction to it. There's like a different level of magnetism that I think people

that are just super authentically themselves is you're no longer like fighting who you lately are. I think you are so spot on. You know what else I think it is? I think people feel safe with those people because they feel there's a lack of judgment. Yeah. Like whenever I'm around people that are just themselves with all their quirks and weird things, but also like just them, I feel like those people are much more open to not judging my weird quirks or what's strange about like,

“you know what I mean? It's just safety. Yeah, that's what I think that's why we're attracted to those”

people because there's nothing worse than feeling like somebody's judging you. They're super stiff, right? And they're like looking at you for perfection. Yes. And you like you hear it in the way that they talk about other people because none of us are immune to that if they're talking shit or judging other people then you're probably doing it to me too. Yeah, it's like a highly criticism of person who's constantly criticizing. It gets tiring. And by the way, it's because they're

probably criticizing themselves. Right. Right. When you talked to your girlfriends in New York City and they sit there and they say, "Oh, easy for you to say, Elizabeth, you found your person in a year, your pregnant now, there's no guys in New York." You mentioned that I say that. How do you coach them? And someone's listening and they're doing that. Oh, that's a great question. I mean, I think it is getting really clear on what they want. A list of things is very helpful

and not just the perfect smile and the perfect butt. Like we're talking how does that person actually make you feel? So those kinds of qualities obviously looks are part of it too and like play around, have fun with it, but getting really, really clear. And then to your guys point earlier like doing the own work on yourself so that you match that. It's not fair if you're just expecting someone to be this perfect specimen, but you're kind of like not treating yourself or your body or your

life or works and taking yourself seriously. And then I would also say energetically opening yourself up to this kind of stuff really helps. Whether that means getting on a dating app even though you've kind of not been feeling it or going out with your friends more, you do have to like to some degree kind of be about the town a little bit. Like you got to be moving. You got to be

“moving. You got to what Lacey Phillips always says is you have to take a line action. You can't just”

make the list and then sit back and go, God, why is nothing happening? A line action is important. I think there's a lot of people who want, I call it forever students that want to do the list and listen to the podcast and do all the wellness things, but they don't want to take that action. Yes. No, but as it relates, even to some of my guy friends, they complain about not being able to meet certain kinds of women. And then like, but the only time they're trying is like,

if they're out at a bar or a nightclub, I'm not to say that people shouldn't do that. But I'm like, do you ever go, like the woman you're describing is maybe not out at two a, um,

like, at that bar, right? I always say that's my friend. You think your husband is at that club?

Yeah, it's like, well, my husband, if I was looking for a husband right now, it's not at the club. No, I mean, it's a break. I will see some of the behaviors that they're doing and some of the

I don't know. That this time of night, it's not, maybe randomly, but yeah, I feel like my

person would be having a leisurely lunch in a board room at a bookstore, traveling. I think I would meet my person between the hours of like 12 and 7. I don't think anything. I mean, I don't say later. I feel like my guy would be on a veranda. Maybe he's reading a beat up book, playing tennis, he's probably journaling. You're my only girl. So I'm not going to describe who my person would be. That's where I would be. I wouldn't be at the club. I will also just add because it's on brand. I met my husband in a

Pilates class. So your husband was doing Pilates. See, that's a good move. Let me tell you about that, that your husband's smart number one. And number two, a man that does Pilates zoom in on the camera.

“Remember that? No, that's quiet confidence. I like that. Yeah. No, but think about it.”

That's some girls. Yeah. Amazing. I know I've probably strategic. Of course. It's very strategic. I mean, like,

think about it. Like, you know, you got some of these guys running around at 2 a.m. at last call. And you got this guy. And he's in the Pilates class with all the girls. So does he walk up to you and like the sticky socks? Okay. So the craziest part is we had a friend that was like trying to set us up. And she put us in the same place at the same time at Costa Chipperiani years ago. And we met, we had like a cute conversation over the table. I said to my friends, I'm gonna marry that guy, which like their jobs were on the

table. I'm not the kind of person that has literally said that about a man, ever. And I went home that night. I couldn't sleep because I was like, like, that was just I just had a weird feeling. That Monday morning, that was a Saturday night. My assistant set up a class. I was reviewing

workouts at the time for sweats in the city. She set up a random-plotty studio I'd never been to.

I'd go to the class. It's a six-reformer class and he's on the machine next to me. Do you know? He was a regular in that class. We still go to the studio now together. Pick up line when he's on the reformer. I can't remember because all I can think about is the fact that I were a purple romper to the class. And I was so upset about my outfit. I feel like he would like that but purple romper. That sounds like he says he was into it. But you know, when you just don't,

you're not feeling yourself in a class. Yeah. It was one of those days. Okay. That's me every time in a plotty class. No, no meaning not feeling myself is looking not flexible and flopping all over the place. I want to talk to you about, and we're taking a right turn about business. If you

“will have to stable corporate job at Bloomberg to co-found sweats in the city. How did that happen?”

And how did it get you to hear? Because you're doing other things now. I want to hear the business journey. Yes. Okay. So I moved to New York City in 2015 to start a job at Bloomberg after graduating from University of Michigan. And I worked that job for several years. My roommate and I at the time started sweats in the city, which was like a review platform for boutique fitness studios in New York City, which was like really growing at the time. I remember sitting at my

desk at Bloomberg and we got an essay lotter partnership. This was like partnerships with just starting to come through. And it was like in a daytime event. And my partner at the time Dale and I were emailing back and forth like on the Bloomberg computer, which I got in trouble for. And we had to skip the event because we both had day jobs. And I remember in that moment being like we have to turn this in our full-time gig. Like I can't keep turning things like this down.

“But like a huge deal. I was like, I say, a lotter wants us to come and pay us to come to do this day.”

And so fast forward. We started getting organized. We started figuring out partnerships and you know, working on like our monthly average. So we could support ourselves. I had zero financial support from my family or anybody. So I really needed to make it work if we were going to do it. And eventually we got there. And we grew it together and she was able to quit her job at the same time. And so we did it for almost 10 years. Wow. We survived COVID, which was really challenging,

because we couldn't review workouts. We started a fitness app during that time and sourced all the different instructors from all the studios that we had been reviewing. Then this past summer, I was simultaneously doing my podcast that I started in 24. And I felt that same feeling of when I was at Bloomberg. And I was like, I don't feel aligned with what I'm doing every day anymore. I feel like I'm someone who needs to be like, I'm all in or I'm all out. You know, there's like no

gray area in career for me. And I just started to feel like, you know, the stuff that I really wanted to talk about, the alternative healing, modalities, the chronic pain, like the stuff that I really felt like had happened to me because it was my purpose to be talking about. I felt like there wasn't fully a place for it if I was doing both. And so this past August, I transitioned to doing my podcast in an Instagram account full time, the wellness process. And yeah, I mean, it's been

could barely afford to live in New York City on my Bloomberg salary could be working for myself, let alone like starting multiple companies. And just what's in the city still exists? Yes. So Dale is still running it in LA and it's more LA focused now and she's doing like fitness reporting and holding it down. Really cool. Yeah. So you guys are both doing what feels harmonious for you.

“Exactly. And I think people feel that. Well, what's cool about the previous experience, too,”

is I think when people get into this business and they're creating things in the outside,

sometimes it looks easy. Yeah. Right. If you've never done it, it's like, oh, it must be nice. It's like

take pictures or talking to Mike. But there's a lot of work. And I think that what people quickly realize it requires a lot of work ethic. So the Bloomberg experience, I'm sure that was a grind all the time. And so it sets you up to understand like it's not just you have the work ethic and the discipline to carry on your own thing and to stay consistent with where a lot of times people get into this space, not just this medium. And they're like, oh,

there's real work that takes place here. A hundred percent. I'm so grateful for my background. I studied economics. I've always been like a finance girl. I was selling Bloomberg terminals. So was very financially focused. And then I switched over into ad sales, which then really applied to when I was managing myself with sweats in the city because that's basically what you're doing

is ad sales. You know, you're selling your own ad space. So it was definitely a grind, not easy,

but doable if it's something that you really feel like your purpose is tied in. You mentioned alternative wellness modalities. What does that look like for you? What are the

“things that you reach for besides your journal done? What is it called journal speak?”

Journal speak. Journal speak. What are the other things that you love? If I'm being honest, I used to lean on these tools a lot more before I discovered the journal speak work. Wow, that's really been like really impactful for you. Because yeah, I felt like I had to be running from appointment to appointment. So now I keep it to just things that I purely am enjoying, and I feel like I leave feeling totally refreshed. Lymphatic drainage. By the way, I saw your girl

yesterday. Irina. Yes, for the face. Body. Okay. Oh my god. Yeah, that was crazy. I've tried a hundred lymphatic drainage massages and it was spectacular. Two best lymphatic in Austin is Josie. I love her for the body. And then also Irina does the best face massage. It is like insane. She's a Russian technique. She's special. Yeah. So thank you for that gem. And then things like acupuncture. And I mean, honestly, I don't do a ton. I do Pilates. I do acupuncture every couple of

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“They put it down. I go about my day. I'm not like, oh my god, my life is derailed and I don't”

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mental state. You know what I do feel like you would like, though, just from talking to you? Tell me, cranial sacral. Love. Okay. Literally did it? Like a cranial sacral. Such a cranial sacral. And actually, I just sent my husband a screenshot of a girl that I found in New York who does it for babies. I, and I'm like, was just in I'll tell you that. I bet you it's the same person. That's

always done. I am a person in New York member that came to see Bond. I bet you it's the same

person. But if it's not though, I'm going to tell you who it is off Earth. But there's a woman

“that sees babies for, and you have to do it. I think everyone do what you think. For me,”

I did it right when he was born. And we've been doing it. And it's amazing. Great. It's amazing for tongue ties. It's amazing if they had a traumatic birth, which most births are obviously traumatic. Of course. There's so many benefits to it. I don't like that you have to do the declamers saying to you what what my whole thing is sometimes people will give shit to people that like you talk about these things that you're doing, what works for you. Oh yeah, of course.

A lot of people just say like drink lemon water and like exercise. Like, but they're not telling you what the other thing. Again, you don't have to do it, but I don't feel this disclaim or like when people say it's overwhelming. It's too much. You don't have to do any of that. But at least we're going to tell you what it is we're doing. The way that I like to look at it and I totally get that and having a wellness podcast myself, it's like, I like to provide people with a menu.

Here's what's working for me. Here's what's not. Here's some ideas. Take with it what you will.

“I don't believe wellness should be a copy and paste. I think there was an era of everyone sharing”

their morning routine and their nighttime routine and all of us beating ourselves up because ours didn't look like that. It needs to be fluid. It needs to be, okay, I like what Lauren was doing there. I'm going to take it and it also needs to change with the seasons. This rigidity is actually way worse for us than grabbing your phone in the morning or not having the lemon water. I posted about nicotine the other day, which by the way, for people that are wondering about that,

I smoked cigars for years. I take nicotine. He's the Pope's smoke cigarettes. It's not going to run. I don't think that's too much. I drink alcohol regularly. I like the occasion. We had a bottle of wine last night and we came here. But my point is, I'm not saying people need to do that. I'm

very well aware that there are negative effects if you have too much nicotine. If you have too much

alcohol, also, you know, we have our friends and Mahah friends come on the show. I have no interest in going and sitting on an alcohol free dinner and talking about peptides without knowing what so ever boring, going to drink multiple alcohol drinks when I'm out and going to have fun. But the point is, we also 80% of the time are into all of these wellness things. We're into taking care, but we worked out this morning as well. Some of these practices and people like, oh,

you're a wellness person. It drives me nuts because I'm like, listen, the reason that I take care of myself and I'm well is that I can also enjoy vices once in a while. If I can't do that, like for me, you also, like there's there's a component of being free and enjoying and having fun and being social that I think is being lost sometimes on the wellness community. Hundred percent. I do not want to go and sit in a sweaty sauna and cold plunge with nine

of my bro is all the time. Maybe once in a while, but there's other things that I want to do. So like people write into like, I can't believe you would talk about nicotine. And I'm like, if anyone has a good cigar recommendation, I will take it. I do. I think that for us and we are often put in the wellness category, we are well 80% of the time, but you better bet your ass the other 20% I'm having fun. I like people under the table. I love it. I like a shot of tequila.

I'm taking things and elements from what they're doing. Oh, that's a really good idea. Or I'd love to try that. Or yeah, like that's of course I want to get my sleep under control. Like all these things. Yeah. But I'm not beating myself up. If I decide to go on vacation with my friends or go out for a night and have a glass of wine with my wife or smoke and occasional, like, you know, like, I don't, I don't look at it as a failure. I look at it. It's like, okay, that's why you take care of stuff.

So I'm struggling rock, run roll 20% of the time. I think that wellness is not black and white. And people love to bucket it as such. And I get a lot of flack for that because I get Botox. I take an SSRI. Things that don't necessarily mesh with being a little bit more crunchy and the the other things that I love. It's okay to have a blend. You don't have to be married to being one where the other. We are all allowed to pick what works for us. You don't have to be anything.

“I think that's what makes people uncomfortable is I'm blowing up the box. I'm lighting it on fire.”

I'm smashing it and throwing it away. I want to work with McDonald's so bad.

My manager told me, Lauren, they don't think you eat McDonald's. I love McDonald's.

I used to work in McDonald's. Employee of the month, 2004 Delmar location.

“Guys, I'm learning a lot. But the point is, is I think the majority of people that we all speak to.”

The, the majority of viewers listeners on your show on this show, they want to adopt this 80 20. They want to have fun sometimes. They also want to take care of themselves and their family. They want to avoid the things consistently that are that they know are causing long-term harm. But once in a while, they, they're going to go out and let it loose a little bit. And they don't want to beat themselves up about it. And I think sometimes people that have

shows like this that lean too far and are maybe too extreme. You can make people feel bad about

themselves and you can make them feel like they're not doing enough and that they're not taking care of.

And, you know, like, I just don't think that's realistic. So my message to the majority of people is like, "Enjoy your life, take care of yourself the majority of the time, do the things you know you should be doing. Don't go over the rails." But once in a while, like, "Enjoy vice or two." It's not going to, you know, it's not the worst thing. 100%. Where are you at now? You obviously are pregnant. What is your life look like today?

Tell us about your podcast. Where your energy is going today. Okay, so my podcast is called the Wellness Process Podcast. It's on Dear Media, which was one of my big manifestations as was

“this conversation. So thank you guys. That's how this happened. Remember? You have to tell them how this”

happened. Okay. So I did have posted the end of last year a real, I think it was on my Instagram at the Wellness Process Podcast. And I was talking about all the things I was showing my mood board versus my reality. And there were so many things. It was like my wedding day. It was my engagement ring. And I was like going on your podcast was on the mood board. And you commented and you were like, "Let's make it happen." It's cool. That's so cool. I died when I saw that. I saw, I got served

your content. Like, it was on my for you page. And I saw, and I watched it. And I thought, holy shit, she has to come on. And I had followed you and stuff, but it also got served to me. That's a wild. Followed you, yes. But then it got served. That's wild. No, but we love stuff like that. There's a lot of people that we even mired along the way. We're same thing. We're like, we hope one day that we could be featured with them. And then it happens.

It's like, like, I never want to forget that feeling. Like, they're super important to continue

to do that and to bring other people up. Like, you have your own incredible platform. But like, we know firsthand what it's like to do that same thing with that same process or thought process. So go on with where you're at today. Okay. So doing the podcast, I do a lot of Instagram content around wellness things, having a baby in the fall, which is definitely going to be my focus at that time. And I will just tease that I'm simultaneously building something

that actually I want to talk to you about afterwards, Lauren, because it's a problem that I know you've had. And it solves something that I've talked a lot about. And it's not much.

“It's not much. Are you a much person? Huge. What's the best matcha?”

Well, I just left Japan last week. So it's really hard to say because I just got back to New York and everything tastes like trash. And I just had a really bad one at the Santa Monica proper this morning at the Austin proper. Somebody said the other day that if it's Japanese, it's probably good. Like, if you're like, if you're a novice and you're a general rule of thumb, you want like a single origin from Japan. My sister told me that when she was in Japan,

there was a guy on the side of the road making Mocha, and he was making a Marshmallow, and stretching the Marshmallow to put in the Mocha. She said she has fucked for life after going there. How do we get the Marshmallow here? I don't know, but she said it's not the same. It messes you up big time. Yeah. Okay, so there's no brand. It's constantly comparing to that over there. Yeah, I mean, it's fantastic. It's so vibrant and green and delicious, and it just hits me so much

better than coffee. All right. Do you want the train or no? I love Kroma. Okay. Kroma has this Mocha powder that I'm obsessed with, and I really like it because one I'm an investor, but I invested because I'm such a fan. Yeah. It has protein in it. Can we let Sunlight for Gannicks does a good model? He does do a lot of that guy. He does he does a good job. Because he's like fanatical about the source. I think he likes the mountains in Peru. He was definitely in there. Yeah. There you go,

another free one for you. But Kroma has a good one. You do two scoops, and I think it's like 20 grams of protein with some raw milk. Oh, I love that. It's so good. Because then you're also having like a simultaneous breakfast. Yeah. Sure. It's especially pre-workout. It's perfect. I like much. And I can't do coffee. I figured out after 12. It's such a bummer. Wait, what do you mean? I just can't do it after 12. Oh, because she slams like these espresso drinks or something after

new. Yeah. I was like 12. Please. No, don't make me out to be like a coffee psycho. I have two.

why, and I said, it's just too late to consume it. Yeah. If you're sensitive to it. I'll be interested

when you start your journal speak if the sleep improves. I'm going to try a journal speak. I think the best time for me is before bed. There's more material. Yeah. I would do the first thing in the morning before you interact with me. Really? Okay. Okay. Are you going to do yours first? I do mine. I do mine. You do a journal. Yeah. I do. I'll be snooping around your office to find it. See,

“that's what I'm a snoop. No, I'm a snoop. No, don't. See, that's messed up right because I would not”

read your journal. I'd be able to read your journal. I'd be able to read your journal. I'd be able to do it. I feel like you're husband knows not to read it. You know, like I'm quite knows. You really want to see what's like bouncing around in my brain. I don't know. I don't. I don't personally. I want to see. You got to get the demon down. I'll be looking around where is the composition notebook or is it in the black one with the thing that's wrapped around? I'm a decoy journal. Is that just complimenting you

and then have the real one. No, a little snoop never hurt a fly. You don't do a little snoop.

You do the whole. She's so invasive. Oh, my stuff. Yeah. She's like deep in my text. I like to take the cadaver lay it on the table and play operation. Yeah. Of course. No, she's like deep in there with like messages from like she's like, "Why are you saying this?" I'm like, "What? That's like two thousand nine. What are you doing in there?" You got into my old Facebook messages from when I was in college. You know? I like to like remind them like who we married and like how on

and I am and then I could be juggling a lot but don't forget I'm an octopus. Options. Yeah.

“You never know what you're going to get. I know. Well, all right. That's what it takes to be married to me.”

Elizabeth, where can everyone find you? Follow you. Support you. Watch your pregnancy experience. Where can everyone see say hi? All the things. My podcast is called The Wellness Process Podcast. It's on Dear Media. So you can find it anywhere that podcasts exist. My Instagram is at The Wellness Process Podcast or my personal account is at Elizabeth Eurego. My new name. I also am on Substack, The Wellness Process, which I have been loving. Everyone's loving Substack. Oh, it is so fun.

I go so deep on there. It is such a safe space. I love it. Is it safe just because of like it's curated to the people that are only there for you. You don't get like barriers to entry. Help. I mean listen, the internet can only be so safe but it just feels like a more supportive community because it's more effortful to get there and to read. Love Substack, but I can tell when someone's writing it on AI. I got it. I got it. I'm so sick of the chat GPT. It's so obvious and it's not just the

the doubt, the double line dashes because I just use those in general. It's the style. It's the two sentences and then another line down and it's like it's a rhythm and a and a stucco that's like cut on but on and it's you I you can smell it. You know how I think about AI and I could be completely wrong about this and somebody will maybe play it in the future. You know in the early days of Facebook advertising when you would see like Dr. Oz on there and you're like oh my god it's Dr. Oz

talking about a supplement and it turned out it was not and it was total bullshit and it was like a total fake landing page with like some whatever. I feel like that's where we're at with AI right now where people are like still confused like is it AI or not but I think humans over time will get so good at spotting when it is versus when it's not and that we are going to crave more of when it's not not more of when it is. Is that makes sense? We're getting a tune to it. Yeah and like you'll

start to see like you're in like you now like I'm noticing running the company like I can tell if someone's doing a chat GPT email to me. I can tell if it's a chat GPT or a cloud response and so what I think over time we will be so in tune to when it is AI versus when it's human and people are going to crave the human more. It's like the new version of like Facebook tune. You're back in the day when we were all just Facebook tuning. It was so good. Yeah and then we all got an

eye for it and we were like oh I can see right through that. Or like face up whenever everyone was doing Facebook. Everyone had a new face and new teeth. Or you know now even when you see like an AI like you can tell much faster not even if it's getting better like the assets are getting better but you're there's something that we just inherently recognize is not human and I think that maybe I'm wrong. Maybe someone will play this and like no here completely wrong. There's going to

get so good but I hope you're right fucking robots in a couple of years. But even then like when

“you're fucking a robot you're also aware that you're fucking a robot and you have to really”

look deep in yourself. Like it's going to be hard to you're going to read that. What you're going to you're going to read like I am going to be aware that I'm doing that behavior. Oh you're going to fuck a robot. I'll try to try it if it's not considering you're going to try it. I'm just kidding. I consider that cheating but everyone gets that on film. I consider fucking robots cheating. I think that okay you know like we have instincts and animal instincts because we're animals

and there's something about like a knowing energy when you can tell if something is manufactured

versus when it's not. Of course. And I think that that is never going to go away.

Elizabeth came on your to share her story and you're talking about fucking robots at the end.

got to make I got to try things out Lord. I'm like can't like not experience the world.

Conversation with range. Yeah. Elizabeth thanks for coming on the show.

“Definitely come on again after you become a mom. I would love that because I think you're going to”

have so many tips and tricks and takeaways for the audience. 100% thank you guys so much for having me.