Ep 1292 | Jase Slams ‘Doom Scrolling’ & What Men Are Really Looking For

Welcome back to Unashamed. So Cory was recently and she was telling us Zach a little bit about the new season for

“the Dynasty of the Revival, which are you still, or you're like a producer or something, right?”

I wanted our producers on it, yeah. I had the first episode came out really.

I did like six or seven episodes of the sake of this new season and guess who I never saw.

Who's out? One of the producers names Zach. I never saw you. At the time is he's very, very loosely around his days. That just means he's somewhere in the back. Oh, I didn't know. I mean, I'm not making fun of you Zach because everybody. So it came out. But Jason, I had not seen the episode when Cory was on, but she was telling us a little bit about it. And so I watched it last night. So you're talking about

this is the first episode. First episode. You are the season two season two, yes, and so don't don't get to think in like, I know what's happening. I filmed that so long ago. Yeah. And I took a

feels role in that, in that I had no idea what was going on at any time. I just showed up and

did whatever I thought I would normally do. And well, and what they, so I, I don't want to tell you about it a couple of things. One is it's an excellent episode. I mean, being a, I mean, being a part of the world, obviously, but then also being a fan and watching the show through the years, I felt like this particular episode was probably the most like the original series of everything that all of the new stuff they're doing. And I've enjoyed this. So you're talking about,

because they did a, what would you call it? Cory described it, but I can't remember what she said. It's a tribute to dad. Okay. The, the name of the episode is called for the love of Phil. Oh, really? Yeah. That's the name of the episode for the love of Phil. And you're, you're in it quite a bit of, you did some interview bites in it, but they're kind of setting up. I do. Because I kind of know where it's going. So they set up like what you're going to be doing.

I don't remember doing any interviews. Was it like you did interview, you didn't

“be with Willie? Is you and Willie together? Oh, I do. Oh, I remember that. That was, that was”

very awkward for me to be sitting beside Willie. I could tell. There was one moment where I literally threw him under the bus. So bad that we got so tickle. We had to stop. Well, they didn't show that. I was they would have. If we fix it all in post J says one of the areas are focused on is taking the awkward and then we fix it in post. Yeah. Well, they just cut that later. They may run. No, no, we, we, they interviewed us about all kinds of stuff. Okay. So I'm

interested. They're going to go back to that and out. We sat there at least two hours. Oh, which is kind of long for an interview. And you probably only had, I'd say a minute, worth of bites at different points. But what they did was, which I, I love this to tell our

“unashamed audience. If you hadn't checked the show, you need to watch it. And especially this one”

because for you guys that loved that and I know the ton of the other dude loved that, you're going to love this episode because it's that's all through it. And they did a ton of his

clips and sayings from, you know, the whole first run of the show. And, but what I was pleased with

J's what I really enjoyed was they showed a lot of bites, including a couple from Unashamed from the podcast. Let's talk in about that. So they had a lot from Duckhall Room, a lot from Sadie's podcast, a little from Irish, but they, they, they wove that into the show. And so, and it's kind of the backdrop was they're having this, they come fill days and they were doing all these competition stuff. And all that was funny because that was like Christian and and and Jacob and all these

ravaries, you know, that Willie's kids and Sun and Laws and stuff. But it was really, really well done and it, and look, the, I'm going to admit it. So I may, I did great like the whole episode and then the last two minutes. I mean, got me. I was just sitting there crying really like a club. Yes, I mean, I was tears were flowing the last two minutes of the episode. Now, you're crying. And now, I'm going to do something. I don't do very often. I'm going to have to offer an apology to this

fella because he said he listened to the podcast also. I got off that plane two nights ago at midnight

because you usually don't see that in Monroe. Well, you know, the shuttle takes the, the pilots

“and the flight attendant to the hotel. Oh, well, that's what it was. And so I'm walking and he said,”

hey, Jason, I said, hey, because I never know who I know because a lot of people say, hey,

Jason, and I'm like, hey, good to see. And he said, I really enjoyed that episode tonight. And I was like, I wasn't me. Because I thought, I've been in Phoenix, Arizona and I was like, I haven't filmed anything recently. He was talking about, because yeah, did that come out Saturday? It came out Saturday. Yeah. So I apologize. I guess it was me. It was you. Yeah, I was on that show. So anyway, that's embarrassing. Well, he's driving. I got out of the chair. I was trying to

me apologize. Well, I, we filmed that a while ago. So yeah, and I could tell because Sadie was still like really big pregnant, you know, in this episode. And obviously, that's been a minute.

“So it was filmed quite a while back. And by the way, there's also some footage from the funeral.”

A lot of Willie stuff is in there. Yeah. So it was, it was really touching. I mean, I just,

and I have to say, you know, dad didn't always have the best relationship with the network

back in the day. I'm surprised. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised they did that. And for them to do this, like, and I just want to say, I don't know if this is the ever, find the years of people at A&E. But, I mean, I, I'm very appreciative. They did that, but to honor that as legacy. But then also Sadie got to really talk about her faith and about the gospel and about that was probably the mark she carries the most from dad. And so it was just,

it was really, really, really, really, really good. That was super impressed. Yeah. So I'm kind of fired up about the season now. And they kind of set up, Jayce, what you're going to be doing. We, you know, you're kind of role in the thing. They didn't say it, but, but I knew what they were doing when it happened. So, well, you've seen it unfold in real time. I got to witness a little bit of it, too. Yeah. Yeah. Ow. It, you're right. That really, which is why I liked being involved with it,

because it wasn't like they, you know, made up some story or whatever. It's like they said, "What, how, what is your relationship with Willie's family?" I told it. And they were like, "Can we film that?" Like, sure. And so Sadie, it was pretty funny. It is. And it was really, the setup was really good, too. And I thought a couple of times on there, Willie, in the filming of it, you know, it started to tell with him. But there was one conversation he and Sadie have.

They're down there on the river fishing in front of the Willie's Riverhouse, which is just around the corner for Mom and Dad's place. And I could tell he was, you know, touched, talking.

It was a touching thing that came across, you know? Yeah. And you don't always see that in us,

'cause we're more kind of, though, under the bus. Well, if you're wondering what this has to do with the Bible or what we're talking about, it has everything to do with it, because there's a lot in the Bible. Just think about First John, too, wherever, where we've already gone through, about that song about, men when it says I write to you, young men, because you are strong in the word of God lives in you and you have overcome the evil one. But he's also in that song. He's like,

I write to you, fathers, because you have known him from the beginning. And I mean, these relationships that we have in Christ, I think, is older men, we're training the younger man. Yeah. So, of course, in the episode, now we're at a lower level there. Now, I gave some spiritual nuggets involved in there, but who knows what, you know, what will actually make the air? Because you, in the film, and we're all we've said this so much, you're only seeing just the highlights.

I mean, less than 10% of what happened is actually making it to that show. So, for me, it's hard to say what's going to happen, because they're only going to show this small snippet. But it's not unlike what Missy, when she was on that while you were gone, I mean, they have a whole revival revolution of these older women training the younger women

“to be godly. I mean, that's what this is about. And so, that's why I was excited about doing it.”

And I'm like, you get me doing something that's close to my heart. I mean, because I think the world would be a better place if we did do that. Well, and look, Zach and I have appreciated it because

world. But we're kind of doing that with John Luke and Christian, owner of Hillsdale

episodes. And, and the reason I know that is that is a conceited, when I tell Sadie that we were going to be doing them this year again, she said, oh, I know Christian is so excited. He said he has learned so much from being with you and Zach in that setting where we're starting the Bible. So, it's just like what we get from each other by doing this on a shame podcast, because I don't learn a lot from YouTube and when Dad was on, obviously, and just exposing myself consistently

to Scripture. So, I learned a lot as well. It was the same thing we're doing with the Hillsdale thing. And it is a way you train in the last podcast we left off talking about testing with the spirit. And, and the idea, as you were talking about the fruit of the spirit and the Zach mentioned the word of God, which, by the way, the Bible, the word of God was written, men were carried along by the Holy Spirit as the way Peter describes it across history. And so,

“the Holy Spirit was the one that made sure we got what we needed. And that's why the word of God”

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we're taking these things though. Of course, we're going through ancient Christianity right now. And like, I'm not going to, I don't agree with everything that the instructor says or any of the instructors have said, but the conversation, I mean, we did one on CS Lewis. I don't agree with everything CS Lewis said there's a lot of disagree on, but man, to try to take his influence out of my life and the books I have read that he's written, I've just gained a lot from that.

I think it is a testament to passing down the story of Christ to the next generation. And what encourages me about our endeavors and how we engage in those kind of discussions and

learning and even sitting under other people's teachings and this hypothesis is that that's always

flawed on both ends. But the Holy Spirit does, he will protect his church. The Holy Spirit will ensure that his church will continue on without corruption. And he's been doing that for 2000 years. I think about that. The whole thing he has been preserving his church despite all of our best efforts of running it, the spirit preserves his church. And so going back to the first John, I mean, I think that's really kind of what we're being invited into more than just, you know, get everything

“right. It's more of a way of life. That's why Jesus, the whole like early Christian church was”

called the way. And I love that because it gives that kind of language and understanding that this is something that we're moving into. It's very, very relational. And that it's actually a participation in the life of Christ. We become a like him and as we submit to his will and to the

from Romans 8, 25, where Paul says that the Holy Spirit interprets for us within the Godhead because of our weakness. And I love that because that's more than just prayer. I mean, that context used on my prayer, but that's in everything. If you think about it, I mean, we have a weakness, but he is the strength. And so therefore, interpretively, he makes it work. And when I tell you where I've noticed that the biggest change in me as an older man now in my preaching is that at

one time, I thought it was me doing the preaching. But now I realize it's the Holy Spirit's message. I'm just trying to be the mouthpiece to get it to other people. And so if it gets messed up,

it's because of my weakness, but he has something really powerful to say always. It's just a question

“okay. Yeah. And when you think it's you, and I thought that too. I remember the first time I preached”

and I would say when I hit a home run, I remember where I was at. I was at widespread road. And I hit it out the ballpark. And it was on, it was a sermon or a class on the resurrection of Christ. And I literally, I had this bit at the end about, it was out of Revelation chapter one, that picture of Christ, John the Revelator, how it's, it's a very fearsome picture. And I wrote my line at the end of the whole thing was that the sword protruding out of the mouth of Christ,

the double-edged sword, I had this line where I said something like, you know, that he's not your grandma, you know, like he's not there to store your hot chocolate. It wasn't a spoon. It was a double-edged sword. Like this is the sovereign crime. I mean, I did this whole thing. And literally, at the end of it, I got a standing elevation, like the every stepping clapped. And I was like,

and then one of my elders, Macco, and was, because you know, you always want to weigh the

round for the people to say how great you did. If you're, and I'm, if you did terrible, you could get out of there fast. Oh, it was awesome. I see Mac, and I'm like, and I'm in my mind and thinking, I cannot wait to just to receive this accolade from from this guy who I've sat under his council for a long time, and respect at a great deal. And that comes up to me to give me my accolade. He says,

“hey, anytime that happens, you need to run out the back door. He said, if you stay round and receive”

the applause, he said, that will corrupt you. It was like, it was a review. I was just like so deflated, but it was like this perfect moment, because when I realized over the years, when you think that you're the one doing it, then what's going to happen is you're going to become an ego maniac, if you're successful, and you're going to be devastated if you're not, and you're going to become very angry and territorial over what is not yours to protect anyways. I don't have to protect anything.

It's the experience. You know, it's so funny that you say that because I remember the first time

I got up at Wife's very road myself in, in a large setting and got to speak. And I felt like it went well. And so I get down off the stage and Bill Smith comes up, who's my mentor and my guy. And so I was waiting for, you know, because I felt like it went well, you know, and he said couple of things. It's not had went. It's had gone. Had gone. And I was just like, oh my god, it was like all the, all the stuff that flowed out of it. And it was

the one pronunciation, the mispronunciation of them from my redneck background. And then it was like two other corrective things. And then that was it. And then he just walked away and I was just like, oh, I was like, you know, I was so deflated. But in the end, it was so good because it was like, I realized it's not about me. And by the way, Mac, the same when you talked about on my little cross pulpit, I used to use when I preached it before. On the backside, he built it. And on the backside,

it says, it's not about you carved into it. So then the only person that can see that is me. Yeah, it says it's not about me. Yeah, because I noticed that the first time I got up there,

“so I wanted to set a couple of things. Is that you have multiple arm runs, I think, when you were”

here teaching, but somebody told me, we also hit for the cycle, which in baseball is awesome. But for the speaker, you're like, yeah, but you've hit a home run before and a triple and a double you hit for the cycle. So just don't strike out. But I've struck out, I've struck out too, they have to. Well, most of my strikeouts were in my early immature days. I think the biggest one I had out was at our school of biblical studies when they had a little icon. What do they call those,

because I took that logo and that was my point and turned that into the logos, because they had

preached the word and it was Bob had an album. Yeah, yeah, with a cross. And because they were like, we're a Bible school. And so I said, okay, you're preaching the logo, I'm going to preach the logos because the word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. Preach the word, get it, where I'm going, I'm like, we need to talk about the one who this is talking about. The word is talking about the word. And even though I still to this day, think I was right and had a good point,

that went over like a led Berlin. Don't attack the logo of the school that you're a part of, because they will have you in a chair surrounded by all the leaders saying, what are you trying to say?

“You don't like our logo? Remember that out? Oh, they just, I just made them because it's so intimidating”

anyways, that because they were all, all your instructors are sitting on the front row of this chapel and your fellow classmates are behind them. And Jason did, it was a clever thing he did, but

boy, they did not, they did not sit well. No, they didn't go well. Because it felt critical of the

school. That's why they were. Wow, and it was. I could have done a better job. We could say it now, it was critical. But what I wanted to say is I use one of Max's line in my speech a couple of nights ago. And because, and it kind of goes in with what we're talking about with the duck dynasty revival about the training these young men. I mean, the biggest problem when we started this, you know, feel goes on to be with the Lord. So I look up now. I'm in charge as far as all the

duck hunting thing. What everything feel was doing when now everybody's looking at me. So it's kind of a new era because our family's gotten so big and all the sun and laws want to come hunting. But

“there's just a certain amount of wisdom that you have to give because this, you know, duck hunting”

for as much as we do. It's dangerous. I mean, guns are involved. And there's a lot of work going on, even the work that we do in the offseason. You know, it has a certain amount of danger. -Jay's before you finish this story, I have to mention some because you just gave me the segue to do it about guns. I had forgotten about a lot of the early episodes of duck dynasty. How much I'll just shot stuff and blew stuff up because they have a montage of y'all. And it was, it was

almost, it was so funny. I was laughing so hard, but it was almost like Monaco. That was like a mania. So he's like yelling while he's shooting an AR into the hole. I'm assuming his beavers. And y'all are all just standing on the bank and shooting into the water. And these are live rounds. Just so you know. So all that last night, they showed those gloves and I was like,

I can't believe they allowed that they put this on air the first time. But let's

-We're ready. -Well, we'll sell it like a bunch of maniacs. I will say about season five or six of a dynasty lawyer started showing up saying, "Main me for sigh." Saying, "He must not be allowed to carry a weapon on the set." Because a couple times I just went off and started shooting unannounced. And I don't think the people realized these are live rounds. Once he shot at a fever in the other time. -What's he shot at a snake? -Yeah, shot at a snake. And uh,

you know, the terrible ricochet was going through my head because there's just a sea of people there.

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“teach in our public schools that I think everyone should know about is they don't, they no longer”

teach the Bible and they don't teach you about a gun. And so you have young people who go hunting with you. And I'm like, these are the two things I know about. The Bible and gun. So I'm feeling like it's my responsibility, which by the way, interesting enough. This is like a little meme I've seen before. You can't teach the Bible in a school, but you can in a prison. Well, it seems like if you talk the Bible in school, there would be less people in prison.

That's a good word. You reminded me of something that happened when I ran for Congress and some people don't know. I did that. I ran for Congress in 2014. Almost one, but did not win. And we lost about 800 less than 800. I was, yeah, I was, I was the razor thin. And so we did these commercials. And of course you know, it's so hilarious, like trying to wrangle Phil in, you know, so we had the

people shove to do the commercial. And they had a script for Phil, which is always funny. Like

I can't, you don't, you don't, he's kind of you, Jay. She don't script. You can't, like, you don't script, it just doesn't work. And when people tell me, like, I want Jay's, like, now we work together a lot. And you said, what will fill a lot, they like, can you get him to do this? And I'm just like, no, I can't, I know you're getting to do that. Can I divert the Mississippi river, you know? Yeah. But I said I get in there with the whole script. They had this

holy political ad, and feels like, not, not against camera ready. What she did often, I mean, did this with Benelli, is like, it's camera ready. Like, one take, I get time. You know, he is. And so this was the commercial. It was, uh, he gets up. And I'm like in a, I'm like in a, uh, a pair of slacks in a white shirt, no beard. I mean, like a complete, just look like a politician. And it feels like, uh, guns and bubbles got us here. It'll be guns and bubbles that keep us here.

“Zach Nash and Maliz and both. That's why I'm voting for him. And he's walked off.”

Say I don't want to win. And I think you had a AR 15 in the box. Then how do I talk? Of course, you can imagine, like, we got more negative attention, but it was good because that's what you, what that's what you want, but it was like, it was such a shocking statement, although it was, it is true. It feels famous for that. I brought up those presents. I remember, I went with him to a

present somewhere. He got up. He said, I got a message for you. And I thought, what is he fixed and say? He said, stop breaking the law, what's like, what are they doing? How to respond. They probably were born. Clapin'. They're clapping. They're clapping for that. Oh, my goodness. It was hilarious. But the Angola line was, remember this, Zach. You were there too. He said, he looked in, because there was a camera going into the whole prison. When there was about 800

you can't be set free. I got a prison thing coming up, I'm going to use that line. But I didn't

finish the quote that I said that I used in the sermon because it goes along with training the young guys, because the biggest problem is when you get out in the wild, every time, and there's a lot of this on the season two of that darkness. If you tell them do something, they go over and look it up on their phone. I'm like, hey, put that phone away. I don't want you to know.

“I want you to go through the process. And if you screw up, then you'll never forget, this is”

not how we do things. And so I forgot what the point was. I was making the other night. But I was talking about, you know, they call this scrolling. I'm not even sure what the context is,

and I'm not sure what the real meaning is. But they call it doom scrolling, maybe I don't tell

me what that means. It's like when you're transfixed in this, the endless scrolling of the internet. Oh, a perfume. Because that's the point. I wasn't sure what it meant. But I just said, you know, you've heard this thing doom scrolling, because I heard somebody say that. I thought, what is that? And I was like, you know what you're looking for? And I got this from that. When you're scrolling, and so the crowd was all just waiting in anticipation. Because you got a memory. It was all me

in there. So this was geared toward me. I said, I know what you're looking for. You know what you're looking for? And I leaned into the mic and said, nudity. And it was just crickets. But Mac said that one time, he's like, you know, you ever thought about why we when we get on TV and it's late at night, you know, you're a man. And you know, you're wise to sleep, you're just clicking channel after channel. And it's the same thing with the internet. And I thought, where's he going with this? He said,

you know what you're looking for as a man, late at night, laying on the couch? You're looking for nudity. And I thought, you know what? He just said, what we don't want to say. But because he said, because if you find it, guess what? You're going to do. You're going to stop and park.

“Link, linger, linger. Remember those quote, the jays I read the joke quote, you're going to”

lurk at the door. And, you know, may your wife grind another man's grain. We talked about that with the joke, 31. Well, I was just going to say, you know, that was part of what they captured in that episode. It's just how do you train young people in the wilderness and all that in the cell phone generation? Really? Because that was something even Doug Dynasty did with my dad. Memory, take the cell phone throw it away and it seems like that. But it has become a problem because

it attacks your your ability to be social, to just function like in a wilderness environment. You know, you don't have time in a bear's chasin. You don't have time to stop and say, what do I do if chase my bear? It's way too late, you know? Yeah, I was thinking, Jesse,

“would you say that a minute ago? Dad had a lot. So good. Yeah, I think he was talking to John”

Luke and he said, you know, John Luke, a day of fishing is a lot better than a lifetime of crabs. And then even then that whole bike where he runs through all this, you know, a section chasin. We've talked about that. I was going to tell you about what you brought about guns

about before we get back to our text. My opening joke anytime I'm in Texas and it always goes over

Dad and I were speaking at John Haguey's church down in San Antonio, man, it's probably a decade ago and it was 10,000 me in Chase. So it's like what you had there the night times 10 because this a huge church and it was packed. And so I got to open for Dad. I used to open for him, you know, then he'd do his thing. And so I would do some funny stuff, you know, and then he would, you know, be dad. But so that night I decided to try some and it worked so well, and now I use it almost

every time I speak in Texas. Because I had heard that Texas in their state constitution had reserved the right for themselves to become their own country because you know, one time they were before they became part of the US. And so and I know Texans are proud to be Texas. I mean, they they love Texas. So I said, anybody in here to love Texas and they all hoop and holler. And I said, well, somebody told me a long time ago that you could become your own country.

If you decide to do that and they all cheer every time it's like a big roar goes up and I'm like,

I want you, I'm speaking tonight on behalf of the state of Louisiana, we want to come with you. And so and they all laugh and clap. And then I said, we'll call it Texianna. And I said, we're going to bring more guns and more bottles. And then we'll also bring cage and food and

“marry them because that's what we're good at. And so then everybody laughs just in the joke.”

And then my outline to get out of it is saying, and I got one more thing to take tonight, Oklahoma and Arkansas, they've got a fin for themselves. And that brings the food because, you know,

people in Texas know, Oklahoma, you know, there's always a robbery there. So it's always the funny

day. But it's funny, you all brought up guns and bottles. So that joke still works with every crowd that I do with. Yeah. Well, it's true. Well, we were in that first round four, tongue of the spirit of the enterprise, which is a scary verse because sometimes it's hard to discern, you know, people are like, you know, I got this from the spirit of God. And all of a sudden, you're thinking, well, this is not line and up with what like Zack said in the

last podcast, what the scripture say, or something that's profound in on a lifestyle issue, which is John is heavily addressing here. It's like you claimed to walk in the light. It's your

“life is not looking like it's in the light. I mean, you're walking in darkness and you're just”

claiming that. But it is, I think, scary. But it made me think of the book of Galatians, where because I brought up that Galatians five, where you just had this contract, I mean,

Tom, but the spirit, which is the point of first round four, you know, spirits that are contrary

to the Holy Spirit. But if you just read it, when he says first 19, or, you know, you start verse 18, it says it, but if you are led by the spirit, you are not under law, because the whole book of Galatians is about this contrast of adding to the gospel, which, which we're fixed to get into this love section, where he brings up a gothic love, how many times now, like 25 times? Yeah, 25 times, and just like 12, 15 verses. Yeah, and I think 27, I think.

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being welcomed in to the Jewish community, because this was all about the Jews and the Old Testament, and God, you know, wove this plan and actually became a man who was from Israel. His name was Jesus.

And so, that's really what it's about. And the reason I wanted to bring it up, because I think it

“works for wherever I had in first John, because Zach was talking about, you know, we don't agree”

with everybody on everything, but we try to keep, you know, Jesus the sinner and that little speech you gave Zach. Yeah, well, in Galatians 2, before a read Galatians 5, you actually see that in motion even among the apostles, you know, in Galatians 2/11, it says Paul was right and he says when Peter came to Anniot, I posed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong. So, he's not sugar coating this whatsoever. He's like,

we disagree on this. And you're like, well, what was he talking about? And he kind of explains it

before certain men came from James. He used to eat with the Gentiles. But when they arrived, he began to draw back and separate himself from Gentiles, because he was afraid of those who

“belonged to the circumcision group, which is the Jews. The other Jews joined him in as a hypocrisy.”

I mean, he's just thought, hey, makers. I mean, you call somebody hypocrite. That's pretty strong language. Even Barnabas was led astray. When I saw that they were not acting in line with the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter in front of them all, you're a Jew,

yet you live like a Gentile and not like a Jew. How is it that you forced Gentiles to follow Jewish

customs? And then it leads to this, you know, famous, we use the next few verses a lot in our teaching. We don't really talk about that disagreement, though. But it says, we who are Jews by birth and not Gentile centers know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Christ Jesus. So we too have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ, not by observing the law, because by observing the law, no one will be justified.

If while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are centers, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not, which in the spirit of how do you test the spirits? If you have any kind of teaching where somehow you think Christ is promoting sinful behavior and you think, well, that's not going on today. Oh, I've had people look at me in my face and say, oh, yeah, the reason I slept with all these women is it was God's plan.

You know, trying to almost promote this sinful life in that, you know, human God's got something going on, where that's okay in his case. So then it says this, you get to the famous passages that I'm trying to get to, get to verse 19 for through the law. I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body I live by faith and the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself up for me. I do not

set aside the grace of God for it. Righteousness can be gained through the law. Christ died for nothing. She said, what does this have to do with the spirit? Well, when he gets, when he gets to chapter five, he starts off come out, you know, in verse 18 where if we're led by the spirit, you're not under law. Now I realize this context was them having trouble with as Ephesians 2 calls the new humanity,

“Christ destroying that barrier that we have with borders and people. That's why he said,”

go out into the whole world, every nation and preach the gospel. And so, then he defines this by the acts of sinful nature or obvious sexual immorality, impurity, debatory, adultery, witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, self-sambition, dissentance, factions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I want you as I did before those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But that's that practicing sinful lifestyle, that's it. But the fruit of the spirit

is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. And I'll love this line against such things. There is no law. And that's why I said this new law, these new commands that Jesus was offering, thank John 15, I give you a new comment. Why is he calling it new? Because it's in the context of him pouring the spirit out as he is taking his throne at the

Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified this sinful nature with his passion to desires.

Since we live by the spirit, let us keep in step with the spirit. And then what's this last line? Let us not become conceded, provoking and in vain each other. And that's why this, when I said the gospel is love, if God is love, your in his love, it what comes in you goes out from you. And I think that's John's whole point. If you're in Christ, you're in his love, a being that is love. Well, it has to come out. It's not like you have to do it as a side project. It just, that's just

“is what it is. You love one another. And I think that's what he's trying to get you to rap your head around.”

The way you judge, how do you make judgments? Because if these things are coming at you, the spirits that were to make judgment on, a lot of them are going to come through people. And the way you judge that is by the fruit. I mean, it's very biblical. You will know the mother fruit. And so you just look at the fruit production of whatever the thing is. And then you can kind of discern what is the spirit that's behind that. And I want to point out that just because

something has a lot of truth in it doesn't mean it's from God. I mean, think about the lie, the

first sin that Adam and Eve were told was partially true. So it wasn't all the lie. If you eat this fruit,

your eyes will be open. And then you're going to know good for me. Well, that was actually true. It wasn't the full story. And so a lot of times what happened is you'll see something into it, but man, but that's true. That's true, but it's still look at the fruit underneath it, because I think the fruit that's coming out of that are a set on top of the rather. The fruit that's coming out of whatever that is will tell you all you need to know. And if the fruit of that is

looking to hold up more like the acts of the simple nature and a whole lot less like the fruit

“of the spirit, then you can then you know. Because here's the thing, you cannot, this is, I think”

this is so encouraging that you cannot manipulate the spirit of God. And you cannot manufacture

his fruit. Think about the passage, the fruit of the spirit, it is his fruit. And because it's his fruit. And he possesses it. He has the ownership of it. He controls the production of it. It's all his. We actually can't fake that. You can go to a degree, but people can smell it. And I think you can smell and something's not real or not. And you can't fake the fruit of the spirit. It is what it is. I think the determining factor that we should look at when well,

ten nights. I want to say that something about Jay said that the acts of the sinful nature or the flesh are obvious. And what you just described, Zack, is the fruit of the spirit is obvious as well. But this is what happens a lot. It was happening in the Galatians' church for sure. And because they had man-new factored, I love that you use that work because that was the word I was

“thinking. It becomes a church manufactured sin. It's not obvious. You have to build a case for it.”

And that's what they were doing with circumcision. You know, the group that had Jewish roots, they're trying to manufacture that circumcision was now sin for the Gentiles because they had not been circumcised. They were adding to this gospel by manufacturing the sin. And how many times have you see? I mean, you know, I've been involved in church work for many years now, my whole life. Where you get into these manufactured sins and churches, I remember Mac and I was

peeking at him again. But we would go to this text and say, "The acts of sin for nature are obvious." And then we look at him. We don't have to then build several verses together to try to create a narrative where this seems like a sinful situation. But I can't tell you how many times church leaderships wind up in the weeds of that. Oh, and they get into all these things with people and it's like, why don't you just look at the, let's just deal with the obvious. And then

let God deal with the rest of it. Well, I think I think recognize and I want to do this bit.

to go through this because I really think the whole point of this was when it says every spirit

that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. And that was the big issue that they were facing in this context. I think the technical term for that is narcissism that Jesus couldn't become if he was, you know, God, he couldn't become a human because look at humans. I mean, look at the, we have bodies and they go to the bathroom. They sweat. They get tired. They, they're, they're dirty. They're all these things. They're like, well,

that can't be, he can't be a God if he becomes a human. And so they just even today that that is

“still going on that it's like you have a spark in you and you have to find out who you are. And”

that's kind of what that is in that teaching. It's like there's no, it looks at everything physical as negative. But I wanted to go back to Galatians because I think this is very profound because when he gets to the end of this disagreement that they had and wrapping your head around what it means to follow the spirit. He uses the same language John does when he gets to verse 14. It says,

May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ through which the world has been

crucified to me and I to the world because John uses the idea of the world over and over and over. I've circled every time in 1st John 4 where he brought up world and there's a lot of circles. And so then he says, neither circumcision or un-circumcision means anything to their context of trying to make everybody follow the Jewish laws and Christ. But it says, what counts is a new

“creation. And that's what Jesus brought, a new humanity, a new creation. Then it says, peace and mercy”

all who follow this rule. And then there's one little nugget, Obscure Passage, Galatians 617,

let no one calls me trouble for I bear all my body, his physical body, the marks of Jesus.

And I got a news flash for you. He's not talking about tattoos with Bible verses. He's talking about scars. We knew who else had scars? Who showed his scars after the resurrection? Jesus. He had a body. He came in the flesh. He died. He was buried and he was raised. And so it made me think, you know, in our age of prosperity gospel, you know, you come to Jesus and everything's going to be rainbows and you're going to get all this. But it seems when you read it, it's the exact

opposite. You know, when he says whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did, when he says, don't be surprised if the world hates you. You know what that means? You're going to get some scars. If you go out there and live like Jesus, you're going to be persecuted and punished. And and up Paul's acknowledging those scars. And as being part of the new creation. And I really think that's the thing. That's the way we need to look at it. I mean,

to go back to my silly illustration about, don't look up your phone and see how to do it. Learn the pain of doing it wrong. So you figure out how to do it right. And I think that's our journey with with Jesus. Even if you're doing everything the right way, you're going to be persecuted because the stakes are a lot higher than, oh, have I kept all these commands? No, it's a spiritual war going on when you share Jesus. You're going to be attacked. You're going to be persecuted.

“And you might die. But that's what it means to be like Jesus in this world. And look, if you”

come from dependent on when you come to Christ, if you spent any bit of time living this worldly life that we're talking about, not only will you have Jesuit home of the physical scars, but there's emotional scars, there's mental scars, there's things from past life. And you have to allow Christ to then bring out in you a new creation. And those scars are there too. And you're going to have a realization of that. But that just means you've been healed.

You know, when you have scars, that means that heal. Well, that was my point. Figuratively not literally. I mean, you don't want to come up to somebody and say,

But I will say this in all sincerity. If you follow Jesus on a shame and you go out there and

“live like Jesus in the world, there can be a lot of scars. Yeah, of many of many stripes for sure.”

All right, we're out of time. We'll let hold that back in next time. I'm on a shame.

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