From Celebrity Agent to Recovery: Darren Prince’s Untold Story with Sean Callagy

Pamela Anderson, David Goggins, Chevy Chase.

“- The list goes on and on, and if this man”

that was classified in special education and the great state of New Jersey, if he could do it, why can't you? - I felt like superman. I was on top of the world.

I felt just as smart, just as popular, just as good looking.

I never had this feeling to put on my life.

And I found that I was taking a look with Demorl, I just didn't sleep with him, 14 year ago. So, 14 years old, you become a successful entrepreneur by 19, darron print cells, his first business, for one million dollars.

How'd you do that? - My dad sat me down, he said words, that changed my life forever and gave me belief, but I've noticed something with your blame with numbers.

That's mesmerizing that number, and half of them were gonna tap into that secret number. That's it. Muhammad stood still in the legendary font. He died those first fighting in the bottom of it.

And he looks at Joe at the other end. He could have just come real up. But then Joe was like smiling at that smirk. That's when he just dropped it. And he hit up his man, we just made it up back there.

And I got to kick your ass again for a fourth fight. And Muhammad literally starts fitting his food and with the laughing so hard.

“- I think Hulk was the one that humbled me”

obviously I'm in, clear order of each. And he looks at me, he puts a sandwich on my shoulder. Good brother, these people still treat me, like I'm heavily shampooed the world and that's a blessing. I think authenticity and vulnerability

is truly a superpower. You know, I'm all we're talking about,

getting to the top, but never been fulfilled.

And you and I got to the top, but we know how to be fulfilled. We know it's not always about being at the top but getting others there. - Hey Sean Calgu here with the unblinded podcast,

where we help you see what you may not see, but exponentially grow on your money, time, your magic, with heart and integrity. And we have a miraculous master in the building today and take Nicole Mayo, who's here?

- Imagine a world where legends are built under the brightest light. And then imagine the rareer figure, the one those legends trust when the lights go out. A kid from New Jersey didn't just dream of greatness.

He earned his way into the inner circles of icons, Muhammad Ali, Magic Johnson, Hulk Hogan. But here this clearly, he wasn't there as a fan. He became the man they relied on, the man they trusted, the man who stood beside greatness

as part of what sustained it. Because while the world's thought champions, they saw Darren Prince. And that distinction is everything. Over $500 million deals.

Jackie, drop presenting some of the most iconic figures on the planet. And even invited to the White House to help shape the conversation around the opioid crisis. Because access like that isn't given.

It's earned through character, through trust, through becoming the kind of man legends choose to keep close. And like every two icon, his path wasn't easy. He faced adversity and heroes.

Today, he is more than one of the most respected agents in the world. He is a leader in recovery, a voice of truth, and author, and a force for good. Because true greatness isn't who you stand next to,

it's who you become, and how many lives are better because of it. But welcome to the Sean Calgary and Blinded podcast, a man trusted by icon, respected as their peer, the one the only Darren Prince.

- See you for Darren Prince, ladies and gentlemen. My brother is saying, do you know that guy? That guy Darren Prince that we're talking about? Like how does that feel to be that person? If we have so much to cover today,

I want to give you a couple of headlines, like the power of identity and fame, recovery, why people make choices they do to feel better. For you, value everywhere today with an icon, working with icons, but my brother,

how does that feel to have that be you? - I mean, I'm, you know, as thinking as she was speaking probably, you know, 18, 19 years before I got sober, would have really been a great ego boost, but the more she kept talking,

it's just my gratitude towards God, and the fact that, you know, humble me for the right reasons

because, you know, I'm always talking about getting to the top,

but never been fulfilled. That there's a lot of people out there that live in that frequency, and you and I got to the top, but we know how to be fulfilled. We know it's not always about being at the top,

but getting others there,

“taking others to the journey, up the life to be the best thing.”

- Amen, mother, I have to pay it forward. - Amen, my brother, and for everybody, this is the first time you're listening, like, oh, like, why, like a hypey intro, it's not a hypey intro, it's the truth,

for Darren Prince today to appreciate and understand this.

“The things, the wisdom, the advice that some people gave you,”

maybe your grandmother, grandfather, maybe your mother, father, maybe your child, brother, sister, and uncle, it doesn't land the same way. As when it comes from people who've achieved things that feel impossible, or at least aspirational for you.

So these introductions are so you can understand what these people have done, but if Darren Prince stands for anything and will have your comments on this, it is the distinction of humility,

and not false modesty. He promotes some of the most impactful humans in the world, and he's one of those people himself, and also he's a humble man, but the humility, doesn't change the fact that he knows

who Muhammad Ali, Joe Fraser, Hulk Hogan, David Goggins, Magic Johnson, he understands and appreciates the doors, their identity and accomplishments open. So more to come on that topic for today,

but you're such a humble man, and you've been through a ton of your life, what does humility mean to you, and why do you believe it's so essentially foundational, before you get to fame and impact an identity?

“Let's talk about humility, and what does it mean to you, Darren?”

- I mean, for me, I think it's everything. I think when I fell on my knees on July 2nd, 2008, screamed out to God to take the notoriety of the business, the money, that all I needed was a single day of freedom, and if he takes me at my own personal health

from my inferior addiction, that I would go back into a hell of one day to tell him he'd take others out, and I think there was just a shift in me, and that very moment where the ego is crushed.

He goes, I think ego comes from a place of unresolved trauma, and a lot of us think ego comes from a place of insecurity. I think ego comes from a place of feeding instant validation, for some unresolved wounds that we all have were all healing our own life,

and I think once you can get into a place of humility, you're most bullet proof of being like, I'm immune to getting wrapped into that, look at me, look at you, look at what I've accomplished, look at it, not about that.

Well, so my brother, let's take it from the beginning quickly. So 14 years old, you become a successful entrepreneur. By 19, Darren print sells his first business,

for $1 million, kid from New Jersey,

and we're talking, 19, late 80s. Might as that tracking, right, late 80s, a million dollars, then is a lot more than a million dollars today, and it's still being a credible accomplishment today. But how, and we're going to put this to the prison

of the unborn, the formula in a minute, but in Darren, your words, how to do that. Of course, hard work, of course, caring about people being good to people, but you had to have some, how to strategy involved,

and from your heart, how do you do that? And then my father was incredibly packed, impactful on my life back then, and I had a moment with an intuitive business future where, giving a little bit more about my back, to a noisy small classroom, growing up, special ed,

and had a live anxiety, and most of my friends were in the bigger classroom. So when I got home after school, Sean, during the day, it was in a bad homework. It was about immersing myself into a lot of baseball cards.

That was almost like my therapy. And I studied all the players, new to all the stats, and after this intuitive business, future challenges go in the greater business. I had one of my mind.

I just never executed it.

Everything was in shoe boxes with prices, and what they were worth, and my father challenged me, and said, well, who's going to buy these things? And I had a newspaper at, and let's just interview, but still exists in the living extent,

about a car show, it was happening to weeks. Oddly enough, Stephen Simon, you know, runs pretty hard, and completely is here with us in no intention to attend. We decided to split a table for $10 each.

And I went in, as if, with that Sean Callie, my son, I was training for the Olympics. You just wanted to come along and have fun. So I spent two weeks every single day and made over $1,000 on that Sunday afternoon,

and that was at the light bulb on, and my dad's head. My dad sat me down. He said, words, that changed my life forever, and gave me belief. He's like, I understand your friends most of them

to think this way, that brings work with this way. But I've noticed something with your playing with numbers. That's mesmerizing that none of them have. And we're going to tap into that too, could become a success.

All right, so your dad had an enormous impact he would later suggest that you write aiming high. When it's all that comes clear, we'll get to that in a little bit. So there, though, teachers, special egg classes,

how was that educational model? Were there people putting limitations on you?

“Did you feel limited in the traditional educational model?”

Or did you have great support systems from the teachers around you?

before you had this breakout entrepreneurial success.

I had that one teacher that introduced this piece for Elliott Lovek to this day as a dear friend. In fact, when my mother passed away, I know by the number of 24 in you and your team came to her funeral, the teacher was at the funeral,

and it was sitting right behind you, our members, specifically looking out when they did the ulogy.

“And that's how much he impacted my life.”

And tells me every time I see each other that there was a point where late teams you wanted to become an agent. And I said, somebody asked to do it. And I said, now I'm not smart enough.

I don't think I could do it. And that one. And what type of diagnoses were being thrown at you? And how were you receiving them? How was your family receiving them?

Like, what was the environment around you? The words were cool back then. I mean, there was no social media. But obviously, I was the dumb one. Obviously, one of them is verbally bullied.

I don't think they understood what ADD was, attention to this disorder, because my father also noticed that with something I took interest in, I excelled better than anybody else. And when I look back at it,

I'll not get too much into it now.

“But that sort of emotional abuse from teachers,”

not get in the support from friends. And the teachers are still in the small classrooms, making me feel less than everybody else. That's why drugs came into play. I think you'll hold.

And so because Darren, the value of this, I would hope for some, is maybe there's a 15, a 20, a 25, a 30, a 35, a 40, a 45, or 50, 55, or 60, and if you're any of those ages, or in your 70s, and you're sitting here,

and you've never come to grips with some of the trauma

of classification, bullying, framing. This man did. And he created, arguably, the greatest reunion in sports history or American sports history, one of the greatest unions in just cultural history.

And this man had many of those things that you've been told about yourself, by teachers, by friends, maybe even your family. And Darren, what would you say to anybody from 15 to 75 who had some of those same traumas

about their ability to get to a remarkable place? And not just to move through addiction, but to actually achieve impact and success in the world, please. - Yeah, I think it's never too late to change your present and change your future.

You know, we're not what our past is. Whether it was a teacher, a mother, father, sister, brother, relationship, job, career, whatever it could have been. There's only so much that you could start the past. I would say like yesterday's history,

Morris and Mystery today's the present, "Vibicality Gift." And it's the ones that go deep into that healing of meditation and mindset work. And not pointing fingers, just booning the situation

and leaving it exactly where it is. It's becoming higher or so. - And if you, and the title aiming high, and obviously there's a number of different ways you're referring to that, what would you say

is a mindset principle foundationally? For the people listening out there, that I've had those challenges, and maybe in people who haven't, if you had one mindset sentence to give to people,

if you could have gained solid inside of them, what would that be? - One mindset sentence.

“- I am enough, I think that's where most people doubt themselves.”

They don't know if they can do it, they feel of a prisoner of the past. And I think just constantly repeating to yourself, you are enough, and we're into the affirmation are very, very powerful.

- Yeah, and I thank you for everybody. I have a personal relationship with Darren. We do a lot together. I don't easily use the word friend. I call Darren a friend.

I love him, is beautiful. Beyonce, and the impact of the world this man creates, and the very podcast you're watching, has been consistently in our rank number one, number two, in Apple Business Podcast,

it would never be here without a couple people,

but Darren Prince is one of those folks. We've had magic Johnson on this podcast, Charlie Sheen, Ralph Machio, many others, that are associated with this man and many more to come, and massive massive gratitude.

So I just want to thank you on a personal little Darren for everything you've done to make this what it is, and the impact you've had in my life, because while I've had the blessing privilege of never struggling with drugs or alcohol substances,

you do feel like, "Who am I to be interviewing?" Magic Johnson, "Who am I to be sitting down now "with Ralph Machio, the karate kid?"

and I couldn't agree more this brother.

“You are enough, Darren's enough, I'm enough,”

we're all enough, and we all struggle that challenge, including some of these iconic names that we've shared a moment ago. But first, let's step into this journey that at some point, a desire to feel better

comes into your life. We all have that desire, we all want to feel better. And what were some of the choices you were making that were positive in ways to feel better? I'm sure entrepreneurship was one of them,

and some of the ways that negative choices of how to feel better came into your life, Darren. - Well, it's a double-edged story, but drugs, especially opiates, because, you know, opiates become a super power at a certain point,

where it allowed me to feel so free and so unstoppable and so confident, certain environments. But then when I'd be home at night, or after a long trip, or, you know, in my home, wherever I might have been by myself,

in my own head, I was back into a prison that I had no idea how he's gonna escape this cycle. I tell people off and Sean, I wasn't in a bad person, I was a sick person, but we've finally got better.

There was never any like ill, well, or evil to me,

even when opportunities become my way, always practice, but magic, and my dad told me about paying it forward in blessing or if it nails, I just had a lot of stuff that had a, you know, worked when it's like, off there.

- And we were at the beginning, like,

“what was the first choice that took you down that path?”

- So it would have been July 1, 2008, and again, I'm gonna mention the speed 'cause it was there on my mind. You know, I mean, going down the path of addiction, addiction in the first, even using, like, how, yeah.

- So, as far as the using, I was in Sleepboy camp, 14 years old, a terrible stomach pain's one night, and the control it took me to see the nurse, I took this Korean cloth syrup type of liquid

and it tasted terrible, I'm within five minutes, every inadequacy went away. I'm welcome back to the pork, I felt like Superman. I was on top of the world, I felt just as smart, just as popular,

just as still looking. I'm now the talkative one at the, at the bunker, all the guys are dancing with me. I started learning with the girls in the bunk.

Now, I've never had this feeling before my life short.

So, I woke up the next day, did all the activities in Sleepboy camp, and I learned how to lie in Con, and at very next night, I killed over in the bunk, because I wanted to encounter a taping at the infirmary. It's went on for three weeks until my mom and dad

came out for visitation day. And I found that I was taking a look with them all. - So, for everyone out there, I want to ask Darren this next, but we can choose different ways

to feel better and feel worse. And we all want to feel more confident. We all want to feel more included. We all want to feel stronger and more powerful, more loving, more abundant, more generous.

And what I'm hearing from you, Darren, and I've never done a drug in my life. I thank God for the blessing of that. But what I'm hearing is the great challenge is people don't know how to get that.

And it's so accessible in the beginning through substances. I'm hearing that correctly. - Absolutely, like 100% and now more than ever. - And so, for folks that, if you can go back

and talk to a 14-year-old or talk to a 14-year-old self, not just saying, hey, say no to drugs, like Nancy Reagan's style. But if we're sitting there, we do want those positive feelings. What would you suggest to people

will be that pathway? And what do you do now to feel better instead?

“- I think it just needs to be more of an open conversation.”

You know, I definitely notice some influencers and some prominent famous people talking about their own struggles. I think authenticity and vulnerability is truly a superpower. You know, I look what it's done for me

in the amount of people I've been able to help. I also think a quick fix for a lot of people when we're stuck in our own head. And it's a vibration and frequency when I live by, is I think the more we serve other people.

I think the more we get out of our own head and help with other people up, help other organizations. Just get out of that noise between our two ears. It's a phenomenal fix to build a real self-esteem,

real self-worth, real self-love, peace and fulfillment. - And I think we might share another really bizarre behavior that could be helpful for people. And if I'm wrong, just please tell me I'm wrong. But do I remember hearing that you

at this incredible mansion party out in the handthins

and you might have disappeared under a table to do something? Am I remembering this correctly? - Yeah, and what was that something? So was that with my ammo experience? - Yes, yeah.

- Yeah, I just, I mean, I was just at my mind, just the behavior what was going on. I was, you know, I think of a set of steroids

And always wanted entertainer with the attention on me.

And I took my shirt off and started to push up and entertain people. And I mean, but there was still one experience. It's like that. - You know, and I left it to my guy friends now.

You remember all the great night of your lives, but anybody that's here recording your production team, but we talk about the best nights of our lives in that moment that next day, you wake up with your friends or whatever your crew was.

You don't remember any of this greatest night of your lives. You cannot secure and tell me, I remember the top spot. - So, do you still do push ups? Do you still do push ups? - I do push ups, I do push ups.

- But not publicly. - And you and when it's thousands. - Take your shirt off, yeah. So how, so this is so fascinating to me because when people ask me like, why don't you drink?

Why don't you do drugs?

“And like, wow, you must be really disciplined.”

I'm like, no, no, I just hate feeling bad. Like, and so I very present to what's gonna happen afterwards. And I just don't like that feeling. I really despise it. And I love the feeling.

And I did this before we got together today. - Yep. - I did a look at the goals. Some six sets in of push ups today, not to feel cool and to look cool,

but to feel better. So if I can ask, doing push ups, putting into orphans in your body, for those that really have some challenges with substances, or for those that I just drink a lot of coffee

or smoke a whole bunch, how does that feel comparatively? And I'm sure it's not the same thing as, I don't think giving it a crack,

but an opioid is a certain incredible hiding yet.

But how might the putting of endorphins into one's body, be able to be, it's certainly more effective later, but how about just even the short run for feeling better? How close can you get by putting endorphins in your body

'cause some of those feelings of confidence

“and strength and love and fun and humor and thoughts?”

- It's super important. I mean, not just in your detox phase. I had to make sure I was hitting engine twice a day during the detox phase on top of my 12 steps spiritual meetings, but to this day's show,

I mean, I'm seven years in half year sober, and I'm in the gym six days a week on jumping rope, when I can't make it, they're gym, I'm doing body width squat, pushups, set ups, whatever it is that I need to do.

I think in general, anybody that's struggling with anything, mental health wise, depression, substance abuse, what it does for your ceremony and to open me levels, it's the greatest natural drug in the world. I agree, and I'll just share this from my heart,

to anybody out there. I, Darren, we're up to a lot of things in the world as many of you are listening. As some of you have even more present struggles of paying the rent or paying the mortgage

and meeting payroll for your business. And what I'll share from my heart around this is, when I put endorphins in my body 12 times a day, micro dosing, just get on the ground, do pushups. I'll be in my office not to make a public spectacle out of it.

In fact, I don't wanna do that at all as Darren was saying, but how that feels? When I'm done, I feel like I just took drugs.

I've never taken drugs, but I feel like I'm high.

High, that doesn't have any negative side effects. So I really give you that. That's part of how this man's day is his healthy, strong, as abundant, as masterful as he does. And that could be very practical.

Do that today, 12 times, there you go. We wouldn't, what? Yeah, just like after every phone call, once an hour, drop on the ground, do a set of pushups for 60 seconds, do some body weight squats as Darren said.

Do some crunches and see how that feels. Online brother. A hundred percent, and you could totally shift your brain frequency patterns just with a consistent daily routine of doing that.

Even after a week or then it doesn't, if you're brain will actually start craving. Yeah, I feel like I feel addicted. And when I don't do that, I feel bad. And I feel myself reaching for something.

And for me, it might be sugar. Well, I'll be reaching for more sugar. And when I put, yeah, I'll put the endorphins of my body. And I'll just feel so much better. So practical takeaway.

Now, here you are, you sell your business for a million dollars. You are, how did that feel when you sold the business for a million? Where was substances in your world at 19? Like, what was life like at that moment?

It felt like almost that it was a long time coming because at that point I was building for five years. And I knew I wanted to make a transition. I had the cloud industry into, I've already had my direction because I obviously noticed in all these legendary athletes

signing autographs to treat you as so under the dabble into that. So it was more just an excitement and reinvesting that money to growing and building something else. Very cool.

“And with substances, yet tipping into a problem at 19?”

They weren't, but I was highly functioning of that. There wasn't really any ramifications.

in six months. And that was for possession. - Has that struck you? - Yeah. - So not this shallow.

- 'Cause I didn't need to sell. I was making plenty of money. It was too used in my friends. I thought I was the cool kid.

“That was buying all the drugs for everybody.”

- And for me, like, we could go down that road for an hour and just tell stories. And I don't really see value.

So the bottom line is that the Darren Prince went through

in a extraordinary journey, starting at 14 years old, in substances and had challenges all the way through to 2008 and when it comes to that in a second. But as you're highly functioning, and on the successful side of what's happening in business,

how do you begin to build relationships with massive people by identity? You might call it fame and my life would just say identity in the world, you create these unbelievable relationships. What was that journey?

- So the first one I went after was for a mutual friend, I knew my friend. I knew we'd gone in Hurland, where no one was Muhammad Ali, me and Egypt. So he was the first guy contacted, start doing with,

and for fucking bodygrass studies from Muhammad Ali. So I went right to the top, from there, I'm a magic. - You didn't start small? - Yeah. - The most recognized of the world.

- Exactly, the history of the world. - Yep, right. - And then from there, I got introduced to magic and I went to Chevy Chase, and then Pamela Anderson, it's smoking Joe Frazier.

“And so that's how the business started out,”

the previous year, I developed relationships with them from a business that had nothing to do with sports and entertainment marketing.

It was basically booking them in certain autographs,

signing of your business. - Don it, and so you would bring them into an environment, with these set events, or you would-- - It was either events, or they would go to a hotel conference for a few hours and sign.

- And you would browse into front of you? - And you would be promoting that yourself? - Exactly. - Exactly. And why did they say yes to you?

I mean, weren't there other people seeking that, yes from them, and to do that? So because I want everybody to realize this narrative, it's not that easy to call up Muhammad Ali's people and have them say yes.

What was it you think about you that may people comfortable these icons to say yes to you? - That's such a hell. - Well, number one, I mean, I bet I'm like that with a lot of the way he want to meet a behave and a hat around them

and make and pour about the person and the business.

He always said, that's the biggest mistake in business.

Too many people know care about the sales and the contacts and the dollars when we should be caring about the person. And I also think in a way not to pat myself too much

“on the back, but I think I was somewhat a visioner”

for that market taking off back in the early '90s. I timed it so well that it gave me such recognition for being aligned with these people. There was no internet back then. It was all done by PACS machines marketing

and running ads in a magazine called Sports Electric Digest. So what I do is I run photos of all the signings and I think it's so far past everybody that they just said, oh, well, we got to go down and print

for this person and that person. And this wants to do a signing and that's kind of how it all happened. Wow. And so for everybody out there, a foundational principle of unwinded and this podcast is that influence

is the only human attainable superpower. And where you're hearing from Darren Prince is that thanks to his dad and the innovations that followed him along his journey, this man became a master of influence.

And interestingly, and I think a master of integrity is influenced because from my experience and how you built your relationship with these people is you did what you said you were going to do. And it went the way you said it was going to go

and my hearing you quickly, Darren. Yeah. And tell, I was 25 and then I had a little bit of a setback. And that setback was. So I was selling from another contact Michael Jordan.

It was one of the other pickest aspects in the world, so much dedicated Michael Jordan product. And this forensic document expert that was heard from the FBI was being praised as the Google rule of authentication.

I know you have collectors that watch, there was no Picasso, there was no back and back then. And after about a year or so of selling it, I'm getting investigative on the FBI. And I went from this perspective.

And that's, by the way, that's not fun. Yes, I went from this 19-year-old get on top of the world more or less losing everything. But like you talk about relationships at the time of the sentence, I got a felony charge

for making a full statement to the FBI during the interview. Never went to prison. Magic, Chevies, in Muhammad Ali al-Lani Ali.

And I'm getting probation, but I had a rebuild.

“And that's where I've two more unbelievable stories”

with my dad at least are going to have that happen. I was in a fly-fishing trip with my dad, the last three grand to my name, who went to Alaska, he was so pissed that I spent-- See, the last $3,000 after you sold--

Yeah, card money for money. Money for money. My picture is all 1996. And you've had all these massive celebrities, now you're down to your last three.

So this is another moment where we talk about ringing benching, like, or past make you better, not better, have the vision for what you want to do. And we're on this beautiful stream. And my dad said to me, what's my next move?

And I said, you know that, I want to be an agent, but I don't know if I used to go to the law school. They dropped the fishing pool. And says, law school, it goes like this if I don't who you know, I'll write me up any lawyer,

but kill to have the relation to that. You can go to Joe Montana's house. You can go to Bering Springs and see Muhammad. You can go to Muhammad, drive in-- nope, Beverly Hills and see Pam and Tommy are magic and Beverly Hills.

So he goes, what I would do is next. Tell me, see magic, hell in your vision. It's Sean, three story up, talked about it before. Three weeks later, I'm with magic in Michigan. We had a corporate event.

I go into his hotel room, so tell sweet. And if he was here, he would have peep the exact same words. It's 30 years ago. And I told him, my vision, he said, you're a good dude. You made him a steak.

I made him a steak. This was four years after his age of the announcement. And he goes, and I love your family.

“Who do you want to start with this, your first client?”

And it was one of those moments. I'm literally a 26 year old kid. I want shot to ask him. My heart's palpitating. My hands are sweaty.

And I got up the nerve. And I go, I'd love it to be you, Irvin. You know, I call him by as you don't aim. And he goes, OK, because I'm going to give you tears to represent me. But if you don't use me to knock down every door to bring in all the celebrities you

can, I'm going to fight for this tears or I'll be because I don't like Darren. And it's not-- he said, I'm going to become a success.

They've never seen before in the world that supports an entertainment.

Fast forward is a lot of annoying dollar brand. Because it's not how successful I become. It's how successful I make you and everybody else around me. So when you get there, it's your turn to bless other people. And Prince Mark and I grew up born after that.

And everything changed. I went and raised a thing of a client and said, magic song. It's super power of yes. That's what happened. We had the heart to do it, of course.

But the mastery, the grace, the humility, the rapport with magic, Johnson. And he calls yes. And then once he had magic, Johnson, he had the opportunity. It's still not easy. You could know incredibly famous people, I have nothing happen.

Many people know famous people and nothing happens. What Darren Prince became incredibly masterful at. And you can, too, is once you build a relationship with the right person, it doesn't have to be a famous celebrity in the world. If you're an attorney in the account of financial service provider, a local realtor, you're

trying to get your coaching, business, and moving anything, who is ecosystem famous in your world? Maybe it's a local attorney in the account of financial service provider. If you're an accountant in attorney, if you're an attorney, it's a financial service provider. Who is it in your world that you're a magic Johnson, back to you by the so much you

had magic? What happened from there?

You know, I never hired a public who's before I did, it basically wound up in all

of her, you know, the trade papers and the trade magazines that he signed with us, it made it so much easier for me than to go to all the other celebrities that we were looking wide for. I'm like, "Lock, we're starting to a lot more picker things now. We're going to start picking and you're speaking gauge things and licensing deals and commercials."

And, you know, all sorts of different branding opportunities. And, but it's like you said, no one these people is one thing, like my dad, but it was coming the same thing. He goes, "Having them as friends and associates are a good darrant, but can you actually put real projects together for them?

“Can you bring real opportunities because now you get the benefit of vote?”

You can be a business together with your dear friends at the same time." And, it took a little bit, but once I found that sweet spot, I would say within like six, eight months, it's kind of like we never look back. I mean, I think relationship capital has been sort of a strength before I even knew. That was the term. My dad was, like I said, if I match up with the New York City, I always make sure that you have food coming

to his hotel suite from his favorite restaurant, where, you know, bring him to his favorite restaurant and make sure that bathroom is blocked a lot. So, we can go there and piece of silence and enjoy himself and every time chill, fridge was in town, Muhammad was in town with his wife Lonnie, you know, bring a shirt to the Essex house, whatever hotel he was at, and I think that's really creative foundation, so I'm just sure that I was different.

Where the business part was important to it, right? But it wasn't a priority.

And my experience with this man, Darren, friends, and something for you to really consider as you experience this, is truly loving people. So, what you could mistake what you're hearing from Darren to say is he'd do a lot of nice things that seem like you care. No, no, that's not what Darren's saying. This man cares. He loves these people. When Hulk Hogan recently passed away, Darren was devastated. Like, I heard it felt that saw it as he speaks of

Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali, these icons who no longer with us, the resonating power of love come from his heart and soul with these people is genuine. So, with what if the great opportunity

“Darren, for folks out there, is to find a way to truly love people? How have you done that?”

Because that is very present for me, that you're such a loving soul. Was it always that way?

Look, we were 14, 15, 16, 17, did you love people? What did you learn to love people? I think I picked up on my dad's philosophy, but I also think I did it for a large part of my life to be accepted out of insecurities and wanting to be validated. And then eventually I started my spiritual, sober journey seven and a half years ago. It was coming from a different place. It was coming from a place of, I can do this, I can provide, I am worthy of the world that I'm in the

respect that I have. Now, let me bless and put smile on other people's faces, where there's absolutely no command to action whatsoever and think back to two of our things. It's Sugar Ray Leonard dinner, completely unplanned. Yes. And he said somewhere, it's

“the way which I'm not going to announce on the podcast. It's a little bit of a curse for that.”

I was like, you're a sick mother after your friends. When I told you that Sugar Ray Leonard's coming, you know, when your family is at Steve's, so racially and beautifully coordinated for that event, I mean, it was unbelievable, you know, rare a couple weeks ago. That's when I caught him at peacetime. Here's the great advice I got from Rick Flair. Rick Flair. He said, now listen, I'm the most four times, because I'm the most four times. This is, I'm like,

hearing from nature, boy, thanks to Darren Pritz and a phone call, I'm sitting by the fire in my, in my home, like watching a movie with my daughter, who's four and a half years old. And he's like, here's the advice. Now I'm the most four times, so you can take it from where it comes. He goes, but ask for forgiveness, not permission and get an airplane to come on down and hang out with

“me in Barrett. Yep, so yeah. So anytime you and your programmer down in Tampa, it's done.”

But yeah, moments like that, that, that gets me so much more excited. Business is funny, right? We do it in nice, but you gotta, you know, the money only means so much at a certain point. It's how many people are getting blush from experiences. You know, we saw it from we were vending off to over how many people did to lay up from who you had there because you were blessed to have been a pride, provide value for your audience, for your team,

for these people that are locking for that shot in the arm, whatever it might be, to reshipped and repivate, you know, their belief system itself and business and whatever it might be. And you understand that you can't put a price on that. It feels just, let's get forward. Yeah. And so now, from that place of euphoria, from identity, let's talk about identity, so it lands for people, not emotionally, but intelligently, intellectually, strategically,

with integrity, Muhammad Ali, the most iconic athlete in history. And you can't be Muhammad Ali, unless you have other icons that you are embroiled with. Joe Frazier is one of those folks. And Muhammad Ali, Joe Frazier, two of the greatest athletes in champions in the history of

American sport and certainly in boxing, and they have this incredible rivalry. They're on two

different sides of the world. Joe Frazier is representative of the right, Muhammad Ali of the left, and choose that. It's how it broke out. Joe Frazier is this, you know, American, for the American Patriot, and Muhammad Ali becomes the progressive civil rights movement and change and disruption and antiwar movement. All of these things are going on. Muhammad Ali does go in the draft, 1971. They have this iconic fight. My dad was there, by the way,

in 1971. I was one, and Darren, I was one, and Darren, I was one of the same year, just that of fun, in fact, a few weeks apart. And so all this is going on, and as their rivalry builds, Muhammad Ali is incredible communicator, starts to move in directions that would be very painful. Our very painful are very disrespectful, and those that love him find it to be humorous as we often do for the people we love, and for those that don't like him, thinking he's a monster,

rivalry in American history. And certainly, I believe in history boxing, and this is this rift.

“That's there. They have three fights. Joe Frazier beats Muhammad Ali the first time Muhammad Ali”

comes back and beats him the next two times, and it is the foundation of Muhammad Ali's career and Joe Frazier's career. Now, Darren gets to know these fine folks a little bit later down the line, and there is a tremendous, like, size make rift that exists between the two of them, and he pick it up from there, and you're rolling all the further. So we tried many of times to get them together, Lonnie Ali and Ma'am, a graciously offered to fly me, Joe, and his son, Marcus,

Hal, to the Ali premiere, where we'll start in Ali, and they want us to ride and Muhammad's dilemma to the Hollywood premiere. Joe didn't want it to do it. I mean, that's when I realized how deep the emotional wounds were, and Joe just said Prince the LMM doing something with them, as if you say, "I'm bi-turfing, Billy." So it's about a year and a half years later, I got a

“call from Portland, I got to my girlfriend that ran Ali's game, that Lonnie wanted to call me,”

that Muhammad didn't tell with her for the NBA all-stroke he can instantly. And they would love Joe and you and Marcus come by their hotel suite, and I would forget him. So I'm mallet shaped, like I can't even believe it's opportunity to come and sit in February 2002, and I called Joe up and without adding, and I know Delay, no pause, because all right, now call up Marvis,

let's do it, it'll be good to see him tonight. So the second part of that, Sean, is I'm still

in active addiction. So I can't even believe this happened, so I'll have to go back to the hotel. Hi, Ted, you're free from him. So Darren Prince is about to be the orchestrator of a reunion of the greatest friction in the history of sports between two of the most iconic athletes in history. Cynthia, and he said a perfect. So I'm back in the hotel and Marvis and Joe were heading over to get me, because then we had to go to Ali's hotel, and my best thinking was that, you know,

“I just tell my even more of the of the situation. And the only thing I could think is when it was to get”

high, you know, because you're sitting or talking to me, so many people are in all of the situation, so many people can't believe it happened, the photos, the videos, you're documenting, you see me, but you can't. Anyway, I made the best of it, and I'll be going to Mohamed, sweet,

and Lonnie opens up the door, and I'm out of my mind, like I can out of the way, it's just finally

here, and Joe walks over to Mohamed, who's on the couch, and he's a little bit, uh, bloated in overweight at that time in his life from not found the proper diet and the Parkinson's medication, but some moments I remember was Joe kind of lifted Ali up, and Mohamed kind of fell and Joe's shoulder, as Joe locked in his back like, and literally just had tears in his eyes, Ali, as he was on Joe's shoulder, hugging him and Lonnie looked at, but follow us and said, you know,

Mohamed really just down the open. Thank you for coming. Thank you for coming. And then we sat at this huge dining room table on that dinner, and, uh, Mohamed's church still in the legendary point, that he starts fighting the bottom lip, and he looks at Joe at the other, right? He could just go, "Rola, you're going to go back to, because we're going to go back to Manila, and Joe drops his fork and knife in his food. He goes, "Man, we just made up back there.

I'm going to have to kick your ass again for a fourth fight, and I'm like, there's no way I'm watching this right now." See, it was kind of believable to just see that they just could not help themselves. It was just in the fabric of their DNA, because here's a private moment with sickness in a hotel suite, and it was still going. Now quickly, uh, because we can get into the next subject, and we're going to keep going. No, please, please. NBA surprised us the next day.

Joe and I were planning on going with my boy, Nicky C, to the All-Scrutton, and the NBA called and said, "We understand Joe and Muhammad got together last night." Of course, I denied it. I go, now I said, "We were just, you know, Joe and I just had a relaxed night." It said, "Okay, we're asking because we've left to put Joe and your Muhammad. Some of it in your Muhammad at the game. Today, to an NBA All-Scrutton is the store of the All-Scrutton. I mean, it's like next level,

especially out of all the All-Scrutton." Yes. And so we get there, and we have three four and five center courts. It's been 15 minutes, I started hearing that chant. All-Lake All-Lake All-Lake. I looked to my right coming out of the tunnel with security as Muhammad in his best friend, Howard Bingham, the fame photographer, of his senior either, or, or longer here, and Muhammad

His left is All-Lake. Right next All-Lake is me, and next to me is Joe. I've never been

“so, I've never been so uncomfortable. Who is that guy? Who was that guy? I've never been so uncomfortable”

and felt socially awkward in my life that I'm like, "How do I get Joe to switch, frickin' seafood me right now?" He starts elbowing me with his big strong arm and he leans over and he goes, "Boss man." So, he's to call me, "I sit you up, boss." He goes, "Switch with me." And I said, "I'd be honored." And I got up. I now go to Joe's left. Joe sits down next All-Lake. They're holding hands. A leash of heat comes out. It's saying America, the beautiful.

The place goes ballistic. I mean, the entire arena was standing up, the plotting what was going on. With Joe Muhammad. So, that was, that was just the special. Having out in John, look at them during half-time in Kobe and Mike Ol and I versioned, like, everybody knew what was happening. It was a piece of history at the OMEI All-Surfing. And it's unbelievable. And to think that, it just to go back half a step for a moment, that part of the deep riff, the pain, the rage that

existed, was Muhammad Ali saying these things about him beating the gorilla in the thriller in the middle of which is obviously a racially derogatory attack on Joe Fraser. And then he says it at the table. So, that is absolutely nuts. And then what Joe Fraser had been saying in response, 'cause this is such a hangover time. It's like, yeah, look at Muhammad Ali. Making fun of his mint Parkinson's conditions and saying, "Who do you think won those fights now?" And they said,

"Look at him, look at me, you're going all the way." Real, like all of this conversation. And then it's happening at the table. And the next day, they're sitting back to you. So, when that went Muhammad Ali was saying that, what were you feeling at the table? Like, well, I know you had substance, but was there any part of, like, this is going

to completely devolve, like, what was that? No, I actually got nervous for a second. I was like,

damn, they just paid up. And Joe's putting his fork in his knife back in his plate. I'm like, I hope he's not going to get up and walk over. But then Joe was, like, smiling at that smirk. Yeah, that's when he just dropped it. And he hit up with, man, we just made it out back there. I'm not going to have to kick your ass again for a fourth bite. And Muhammad literally starts fitting his food, adding with the laughing so hard.

He was how like this. And if it's a beautiful moment, just like, like I said, they just couldn't help themselves. Who they were? Ali, Ali, Ali, as he's walking in, walking down with Hoko again or Joe

“Frazier or Palma Anderson, can you explain to people as slowly and methodically as it's appropriate?”

The power of identity, the power of fame. So people can truly appreciate what happens and what you've experienced, traveling with these people. Yeah, I mean, I've been blessed, you know, be with the kings, the kings or queens of queens. And I mean, I've had dinner out the Chino from Lionel Richie, Denzel Washington at dinner with Joe and I. I mean, I mean, Alaska's Spielberg, literally an awe at a march for our lives event in Washington.

You see that my Prince Scoot abroad coordinated maybe 2018, 2019. The biggest, you know, athletes and celebrities, just Joe Frazier, walks into a room, and it's a real of another level. It's a different association, Bono, Bon Jovi at the MTV VMAs. I've seen it. Like, they are like little kids at the onset, had a magazine cover party for Gotham Magazine. My friend Jason Ben sent a car and Beyonce and her dad wanted to be Joe, Joe came up with Philadelphia.

It's something so different, especially when you go back to that generation, John. I'm not saying there's a certain athletes that haven't had at the best 20 years, but they were different. They were like, they affected the world politically. They none more stopped than I had a march at Lincoln 71, certified this entry. You know, they had such power. That was Ali Frazier won. That's a power. Their voice, what they stood for,

long before social media, long before the internet. They had this level of global fame that they're not sending out tweets to build up their image. So, what happened is, you know, generationally, you know, the grandfather taught it to the uncle, the uncle taught it to the father, taught it to the son. And the whole colon was that way to the whole colon transformed at least

“about 30 and 40 different generations. I think when I look at, like, magic, the dream team”

really took him to the level that the dream team is so incredibly impactful.

Let's go home for a second. I'm WrestleMania. They call the WrestleMania, not WrestleMania one.

WrestleMania to my dad. We'll get to my dad and Dwight Good and Mookie Wilson in a couple minutes.

And being there and just whole Cogan coming out in the place going nuts, right? People literally losing their mind, like Elvis Presley taking on the stage, Ed Sullivan, when you have that, when you're walking off whole Cogan and people there, lawyers, accountants, financial service price and doctors, what you mentioned feeling some of these iconic celebrities looking at your phrase or like they're like a little kid looking up to your phrase or how what's it like where people,

how would you describe how disrupted people become in the presence of a whole Cogan or in the presence of some of these others? What is it like as people are miding him for autographs and adult

“professionals and successful people? How would you describe what happens to people?”

I mean, I think over the years I've just come to accept it more early on. It was a exciting but it's also a live and job to do with their security to make sure they get in and out whatever situation I'd be safely. But I think Hulk was the one that humbled me of his down in Clearwater Beach where he spent the last 20, 25 years, despite Florida and me and a couple of my boys spent just saying we went for sushi for lunch. And Hulk is me as his ballet ticket

because brother Jimmy Felix is can you just go have them pull up the course who can get out of here and I turn around and I'm not hitting shunner's 50 people behind us just waiting. They could tell the bandana's on. The cut right shirt from behind, the blond, you know, hair, they know it's in. And so I look at all these people. This is going to be like a half hour

“for him to get out of here. I go get the car. I'm waiting in the parking lot for a half hour with”

the ballet guy. He comes out and goes brother. It's going on. You know, click something bad. I'm like, you know what? I call them Terry, but I'm like Terry. We finally get away from the crazy and assisted traveling and all the fans and you know, the whole community of craziness just to kind of get a lunch with you and all this is still happening and he looks at me. It's so much older with brother. These people still treat me like I'm heavily a champ of the world and that's

a blessing because let me tell you something. We might be friends, but when it gets good friends who are because you wouldn't be cold with all these business opportunities, these fans disappeared.

And that made me never say another word about it because he understood it. He understood the

power of, you know, being there for their fans. Like bad, none of them or who they are, but that's

“the love and support of that. And while this may resonate so powerfully emotionally, what's also”

think about it, we live as people in a hierarchical world. And I'm not talking about the way we wish the world would, would be, but it is. So if you build a relationship with the president of an association, this is how I built my entire business originally. I had the president of the Northern New Jersey Chiropractic Society, you know, 29 years ago, bringing me in the speak. And once that person said, "Hey, Sean's okay." Then everybody else said, "Hey, Sean's okay." So Sean's a great masterful

what he does. Like it changes everything. And that's the power of identity. And so if you're entertained by this or enjoying this, I'm gonna, I would love to talk to Darren all day all night about these stories. But what I hope is there for you, at least some of you, is to take this away and realize that you two can be a Darren Prince. And you could build relationships with people with identity in certain ecosystems. Maybe it's a medical society, a legal society, a counting

society, whatever it is, that's gonna transform what you do. And maybe for something out there, you want to be calling Darren Prince and saying, "Hey, can I bring some of these people?" Because I assure you, when you start bringing people, like Darren's got to bring through situations. That's not an easy thing to do, right? This is not just about money. It's like, "This has got to be the right situation and the right people." The right situation with the right

people of integrity, but the power of bringing celebrity identity is game-changing all day every day. So from that place, brother, how do you leave the world of addiction? So you have these iconic moments, you struggle to feel them experience them as deeply and meaningfully as you want. This is Darren's Book aiming high. You want to read a heartwarming, soul-touching, entertaining, as heck, a story of a journey into the power of celebrity aiming high is there for you. And if you

want to a pathway out of some of the challenge you're having, it's there for you. But, um, and I know

how and why, and I've read the book multiple times now. But aiming high, 2008, you finally have

or prevent them from moving down that same path. My late uncle still was building a woman

“and draft the time. And I don't know, I just connect to a friend Steve who's sitting here,”

you know, was there, went to sit and I was just ready. I mean, she started asking me all these questions and I told her I was sick and tired and I was just done and she pulled a coin at her pocket and she talked about G&C's as I call them God-managed coincidences. She just celebrated five years over and she said I could help you. She's been on the detox plan and the next day we saw eye seconds in 2008. And I've been into my apartment bathroom at the time that I was

living with my by then wife and thought I was kicking like a non-nercotic anxiety pill and two vitamins came out which was one of the three opiates and I thought it's what I needed Sean but I had first time my light, a light moment. I thought of mine and he said I shouldn't have that's got to take the money, take the business, take the notoriety. He could give me a single day of free and I'll go and go back and tell one day at the time they take other people's out. A lot of people out

and I had like a lightning bolt on my right shoulder because it was a feeling I never had to be

poor and I never had it since and I heard a boy say I've got you in your ready and there was no Uber of my town stairs into a taxi cap if we're going to line down at 12th set meeting in the upper 80s in a church basement in New York City with 150 plus addicts and alcohol holics

“were all once both with state of mind. Ego Frosh was important like knowing that I was going”

there to get the help that I needed and it's a render for the first time on the light and that day what I thought at that time was the worst has now turned out to be my very best. Well congratulations my brother of course and you know for folks out there Darren that maybe are not in a terrible place of addiction but they're just looking for ways to have fun at a higher vibration on level. This is a man that rolled with some of the wildest craziest characters

ever. What would you say to people about how you have fun now? Because you know I serve I ski at the same before as I serve skiing. Scoop it out this month. I'm a blind guy and I love it.

It makes me feel high. You know I've never been actually high so I can't be sure I really feel

high but it certainly makes me feel at a much higher vibration level. How do you have fun now and for the folks that may be thinking yeah man but like if I stop drinking as much I'm drinking or stop you know getting high sometimes I'm I'm just not going to have fun but I think your life says something very different. Yeah I mean fun for me is not to find the way that it used to be you know it's just being around the right energy people you know you you would not have

this so it was of a magical connection or together just around people that are as spiritual as possible. I think we need to talk about individuals that are listening and watching that doesn't necessarily need to be a celebrity but there is somebody in the world of impact that probably doing the next right thing every day of their life to build scale give back being integrity

“that if you latch on to people like that you're really going to start realizing what life is”

about and get a new definition of a fun you know it's um it's a different time and I think people start understand that it's not about nothing could happen. So I'll enter out of bar till 11 12 o'clock tonight you know my level of fun enjoy and happiness now comes from helping other people that are struggling um you've been a blessing to my Amy High Foundation our scholarship anywhere from 30 to 40 people at York when those calls come in it is the greatest

most exciting time in my life when some point that happens we we have somebody that comes in that doesn't have to read for it so that we can help them if somebody wants mentorship in sports management or celebrity marketing like I drop everything my office makes sure I suck that stuff up because you can't even you understand it for people that are listening to have an experience it you can't even put the feeling into words on what it's like every

thing is fun enough. Amen brother and fun so here's what's fun for me

having lunch in California in Hollywood with Darren after we've just gone to an amazing home in the Hollywood Hills which I'll keep confidential for what we did and what was happening there we'll be able to announce it soon and then having lunch and just enjoying pizza and laughing and talking about the future and possibility what also is fun is when I had the blessing and privilege of first meeting Darren it was on Halloween in 2024 and Darren comes in with his when it was incredible business

we're like 20,000 square feet here right and I had the blessing and privilege of making contribution

“to Darren's Amy High Foundation that's fun but the reason that happened is because we did things”

not like Muhammad Ali and Joe Fraser exactly or we were Hulk Ogan or Magic Johnson but not completely unlike it we faced challenge and friction Aaron did I did we built business we built the abundance and only from that place of abundance could a contribution come for people to get to get free and so that happens begin to develop a relationship it was fun running a thousand person event in New Jersey and having all these incredibly iconic celebrity people come in it was

really fun and magical to sit down with Charlie Sheen and not to exploit him but to lean in on his

incredible influence charisma magic that this man has brought to the world and also to be present

to the fact that he's had some extraordinary challenges as well and Darren represents him and what was fun and magical was my dad's 80th birthday my dad's really sick and this just happened

“in 2025 and my dad couldn't have his 80th birthday party and I was heartbroken he was heartbroken”

and we began to conversation with Darren the mutual teammate of ours Mike Vassuvio and said you know my dad is an enormous fat fan and Darren causes Duay couldn't and Mookie Wilson along with an incredible team right Steve and you know partnership and they come to the hospital and I'm able to surprise my father and nothing means more to him than New York meds and have Mookie Wilson and Duay couldn't walk into his hospital room I got the computer set up and the most meaningful

moment my dad never shared was 1986 being a box 13A for the New York meds and watching the ball

rolled through Bill Buckner's legs that Mookie Wilson hit we rewatched this moment in the hospital with my father with Mookie like good watching the whole thing brother thought and they're there in the hospital room for like two hours you know ish like an hour and a half two hours we have a

“meds cake and a James bond cake for my dad's birthday Mookie Wilson it's white good and are asking”

for second pieces of thinking they're being nice taking the first piece like not all that's really good got another piece then we come into this room and do a podcast with white good and Mookie Wilson telling the story on cry they're all emotional grabbing pizza and wings you know in the office till god knows what time but that's fun but that fun only comes because of the sacrifice of

this man his partner other people have made to pill these relationships and incredible people

and also humbly the abundance I've had to privilege of creating with partnerships and team it's myself so what if it's fun to build things and from that abundance do magical things so brother first from my heart my soul and I share the story but I want to say right here on this podcast we wouldn't be here without you number one number two thank you for one of the most meaningful moments of my life my father's relationship you know we all have challenges of parents and I'll have

interesting moments but like Billy Crystal well the movie said in city slickers and one of his ghost artists said you know we feel he can't talk about anything like we could talk about baseball and it was a heart and soul of our life my dad cried more than ten times that day about this and he's cried at least 25 times since every single human being my father knows has heard this story about Dwight Goodman and Muki Wilson being there and if my father was in this room with us

right now he would be crying tears pouring down his face and the mention of his 80th birthday he cries instantly you did that and that I hold no judgment I've had plenty people with addiction challenges in my life and my family I hold no judgment but I know for a fact there's no way that there could be a greater high than that and I hope that can like penetrate your heart and soul brother because you've done that for so many people but you did it from me and my father and my children

all my children I've four kids of a 26 year old my son down my four-year-old daughter we're all in this dream together with my dad for his birthday and what was going to be this you know beautiful party at the Capitol Grill and you know a hundred people and friends turned into just us in that room tiny small family collection and it was the most memorable day of my father's life and you did that brother and I hope that high brother social yes sir you know who my favorite athlete is of all

time Muki Wilson there you go and anybody I'll tell you that that's known me since I was a little boy so that made it even more magical thank you and yet how many people have you brought moments to like that I mean you did it for I I can't even imagine with the relationships you have and the

George Bailey like it's a wonderful life like are you present to all the lives and the ripple effects

of everything not just that these people do that you do brother like how present are not are you to that I am I mean it's like I brought up earlier to you about your band in your jersey like I see it it's not of course there's a business side to things but we don't want to be just a transactional this is you want to create experience you want to create mind blowing moments you want these events or you know whatever it might be whatever that business project is to just

really impact others from the energy and the frequency of whoever that celebrity is that they're around because transactional one off shake somebody's hair may be built and they get no we we want to just make sure you maximize everything we're doing at this point because that's for the magic it's that's when it becomes you know you're reaching back and giving back and people are in that moment of disdain every single thing in just like you were with every single person every celebrity

who had on stage I mean you change so many lives that they're just to be behind the scenes with Steve and watching it with me told her and like knowing that a very small part of that helping to put this roster get it such a good feeling there no thank you my brother so what is it go from here as it begin around the man home you have hopefully another hundred years in the sort of yeah what is it I know you take one day at a time I know you meditate love life

but if you can fast forward a hundred years to your final day what if anything would you want

“to bring forward that you haven't brought forward yet but if anything you know I think I'm just”

so passionate about the younger generation and the mental health and this whole word that everybody can see our narcissists and you know on yield like I would love to be somebody and I would spoke to him at the lighthouse and perhaps when I went that can we like you know start creating like a coursing grammar as well about self work and self love yes I want to be a part of that that is nothing to do with this and whatever I can care less it's been giving me blessings

and relationships that are incredible I've said it before when I'm gone I want to be known as a

man that went deep into hell came out on the other side and sprinkled to open recovery across the world to make people's lives better and that's something that would change mental health addiction, substance abuse, bullying that if the jocks and the nerds that are eight nine ten years old and the geeks and whatever little stereotyps you want to call them false fet in the same room it's talked about how they feel on that given day everybody will be on the

same thing feel I remember other and as a small token of gratitude and this is like fun for me I'd like to make a fifty thousand dollar donation about my family and calorie Christian fat this was not at all part of like darming you wouldn't say this but a fifty thousand donation from my account more love like calorie Christian foundation to Amy high that's fun

“and of mass of gratitude like that's that's how I get high so thank you my brother for”

everything that you've done I love you anything you'd like to share with those incredible people

in final final you've shared so much already is there anything left on your heart that we have not yet attended to these folks I just think sort of how we open it up and because you live in a frequency that's just so unbelievable and I do it as often as I can that it's about funny fulfillment you know don't be blinded by all these people with the cards in the jets and the houses like that's getting great and it's important to someone it's nice

to have people to live a life but it's about integrity it's about relationship building it's about giving back it's about finding that fulfillment in here and in here and in here and when you get it let it spread by wildfire to people that need to hear it because when you get to that place you want to know that rust happy as you possibly could have been because I know a lot of people that have gotten to that place off the top of the mountain top

“that are just miserable and you know I think the younger middle age generation needs to understand”

that's a different way to go about it yeah and what I would love you to take away from this time that they're in Prince is that what if we are all a mouse what if Muhammad Ali was a mouse Joe Fraser is a mouse there and myself you what if we're all mice looking for lions and what if the lion that Muhammad Ali pulled the throwing out of the foot of where people that thought oppressed and challenged and limited and fearful and concerned about what's happening what if Joe

Fraser was for people who thought there was change coming that was her phone what if there's the warrants in the feet of ecosystems sometimes ecosystems or large groups of people sometimes are individuals and what this brother stands for is he took lions found the thorn and removed it

is what if we all dare and myself you all of us these iconic people just kept looking for ways

“to build relationships with integrity dare and wants to help more people I have financial abundance”

here I'm to do it Darren's gracious enough to come in and he brings gifts for me my dad all these

things what if we just keep realizing it's not a zero-sum gain but there's value to expand and share

“and find people's pain they may be way bigger than you way bigger than you in many ways”

but if you could remove that thorn and create massive value for them the life-long relationships

that this what that is what this brother has done with the likes of Hococ and Magic Johnson

“Muhammad Ali Joe Fraser Pamela Anderson David Goggins people the list goes on and on we do all”

day long and if this man that was classified in special education and the great state of New Jersey will share that in common if he could do it why can't you Darren Prince I love you my brother when this life together forever so much more to do I thank you for being on the Sean Cali I'm on the podcast and it wouldn't be here without you so thank you Darren Prince love you