Relative Danger | Blood is Thicker: The Farris Wheel

Today I have a special episode to share with you from my new podcast, Blood Is Thicker,

The Ferris Wheel.

“It's the story of a family caught up in a blame game when their beloved patriarch is murdered.”

Gary Ferris went missing and was later discovered dead on his 10-acre Georgia property. Who would want to kill him? Like an actual Ferris Wheel, the blame game in this family went round and round. Here's the episode. Viso Stoya.

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Melody Ferris was upset that her family's private lives were now public record. She was talking to detectives Daniel Hayes and Trent Kaikendall in Cherokee County, Georgia. And to sing in a while since he really is hard for you and her family's loss. It was on the morning of July 6, 2018, the day after Gary Ferris's remains were found. Melody was at the local sheriff's office.

Unlike her earlier conversations with the detectives, this one would go on for nearly 8 hours. As Melody spawns stories of intrigue and suspicion. I had nothing, nothing to gain. By him dying, I had everything to lose. Everything to lose.

Almost as soon as they started recording, Melody didn't hesitate to point fingers.

“The only thing I found odd was that he wanted to leave immediately.”

Melody was talking about her oldest son Chris. He had left the farm not long after investigators arrived. The police said she didn't trust him. And he left him, came back. He came back after him only got there.

I forbid him for being in my house without me being in there. The two had been feuding for at least a year. Melody would go on to share disparaging details about more of her children that day. The worst part of it is how I need to do. Tensions were high.

Midway through her marathon interview with detectives, Melody casually alluded to a parent's worst fear.

“I'm sitting there thinking, well, it's like, you know,”

I couldn't want him to have told him to die, which is the worst time here. He's just thinking that one was in contact with that farmer's life now. I'm Peter Vansat. From 48 hours, this is blood is thicker. The ferris wheel.

Episode 2, Relative Danger. Peter, we're pulling up now. This is the ferris property here on the right. Right here. That big house off in the distance there.

Yes? This is beautiful. When I pulled up to the ferris property with detective Daniel Hayes, it was hard to believe that it had been a crime scene just a few years earlier. We believe Gary was shot in Kilbez all the evidence, and we know he was born.

What we don't know is exactly when those two things occur. Based on a few drops of blood in the house, this is what detective Hayes believed happened to Gary Ferris.

First, he was shot in the kitchen, wounded, Hayes said Gary then ran downstairs, where

he was likely shot a second time. He believed Gary didn't try to fight with his attacker. He was trying to take the path of least resistance to get out of that house, which at the time was down the stairs and out those side doors that led to the backyard. The stairs found blood both upstairs and downstairs, and they discovered Gary's DNA on

a bullet they found in the basement, which told you what then about what may have happened in that room. That told me that that bullet went through some portion of Gary Ferris's body.

I would think an enormous amount of blood loss. That's part of the mystery to me, is it to you? Yes, again, we get a lot of our people get their information from Hollywood. Watching the movies, of course you want a lot of blood coming out, but the same token as the bullet been in the floor not being lodged in something, not every scene that you expect

to be that way is that way. Gary was a large guy. We know at least one bullet didn't come out of him because we found it in his ribs.

“So investigators believed they knew where Gary was shot, but what about the one?”

Already now, all the evidence was a daunting task for detective haze. We don't have a lot of homicides and murders in Jerky County, so this was my second one being named lead detective. This is your case. Just your second murder investigation.

Second one ever, and this is the first case I've been involved with with so much electronic forensic data. The cell phones, the computers, cell phone tower dumps all these big words that I've had to research to figure out even what they were and how to utilize this data that we got to our analyst.

Interestingly, one of the most critical bits of information came from the breathing device

scary kept on his bedside. Another detective with different experience to me, overheard us talking about Gary sleeping with a CPAP every night. He actually brought up, he was like, you know those, record data, right? I actually wrote another search warrant and went back to the house to the CPAP learn, you

know, technology's updated and it's just got an SD card in there so we were able to take the SD card and get the data off of it that we were looking for. Haze was interested in the data from the evening of July 3rd. The last day anyone saw Gary alive. That's when we determined that Gary always went to bed around midnight and he hadn't

gone to bed that night. He had never put on the CPAP. We know he was killed that night. And who pulled the trigger and where was the gun? Was a murder weapon found.

No. And you guys looked, right? We did. What do you think happened to that gun?

That's the million dollar question.

Another million dollar question. How did Gary's body get from the house where he was presumably shot onto the burn pile more than 50 yards away? We don't have any evidence directly stating when he was put on that fire so it's possible. We laid in the backyard wherever he expired for quite some time.

While someone made the decision to put him on the fire and dispose of the body. Gary weighed nearly 300 pounds and was six foot four.

“How exactly can someone move a man of that size such a distance?”

Is there any blood that was discovered going from the house to the burn pile? No, that with him. Any drag marks? None that with someone. Vehicle tracks whatsoever.

There were tracks in the area. You could tell they were well traveled past, usually that people often would drive the RTV or the tractor or something, but nothing that was definitive. It went from that area of the basement straight to the burn pile. Detective Hayes figured there was a chance one of the vehicles was used.

This family has utilized both of those machines to move dead horses, pull stumps out of the ground. Anyone who's been on the property that saw new the capabilities of these machines. Investigators found drops of Gary's blood on both the family's tractor and RTV, the rough terrain vehicle.

But who had a motive to kill him? And in the weeks and months leading up to Gary's death, is it accurate to say that there

“was a lot of big green, a lot of fights over money and that family?”

A lot of big green, a lot of fights over money, a lot of jealousy. Do you have any idea what he was totally worth?

I believe at some point we added it up to around $4.5 million is what someone would stand

to inherit. That would be Gary's personal investments, including life insurance and the value of the property. Melody claimed ignorance when it came to the family's finances, but she asserted that her children, Chris, Scott and Emily relied heavily on their father's money.

Evident shows it made Melody turn against her children because the children were spending money. Melody strongly felt her children needed to grow up and be financially independent. She told investigators that Gary was about to make a big change in their lives that would largely turn off the money spigot.

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Start it and test not only for one of your promotions, but for Shopify.de/recorder. We've spent a lot of time talking about suspicions within the Ferris family, but what about outside? It's something I asked detective Hayes about. Are you wondering, did someone come in from the outside?

Perhaps someone he competes with in business, or a financial problem that he's had, that he may have an enemies who came on to property and killed him? Sure. You know, when you get to a homicide, it starts.

“Everyone in the world's a suspect, and you narrow that down, right?”

You have to keep an open mind. But according to Gary's family, he didn't have any enemies. Here's Scott. He had no enemies. I mean, I'm sure the detectives will say, "Priest, say, we couldn't find a single person that

hated your dad." And Scott's right. The data investigators collected back that up. So detective Hayes focused on each family member, not just what they were telling him and interviews, but the actual evidence.

What were they all doing on July 3rd? Let's start with eldest daughter, Emily. From what I knew about her, she had moved away from Georgia. She lived in Franklin, Tennessee, which is up near Nashville, in a home with her husband. Emily was 30 then.

Gary gave her money, helped fund her lifestyle in Tennessee, helped them get the house. Hayes set around the time of Gary's murder, and on the day when the remains were discovered, Emily had an alibi. She arrived after I did.

I recall her arriving and trying to speak to her, and she just basically said, "I don't

know anything. I live in Tennessee. I'm here because my family called me and told me what was going on." No way she could have been involved. No way she could have been involved.

As for the youngest, 29-year-old Amanda, detectives were certain she wasn't at the farm that day, the people who were at the farm on the 3rd were her mother, Scott, and Chris. As we know, Chris stopped by the farm with one of his daughters late that afternoon, and talked to Gary as he was preparing the burn pile. In 2018, Chris was 38 and had moved back to Georgia after living in Maine with his first

wife. They had two daughters before getting a divorce.

When his mother, Melody, was talking to detectives on the second day of the investigation,

she alleged that Chris wasn't showing very much emotion for someone whose father's remains had just been discovered. "You know, Amanda said, you know, I found it very odd that he did not say shit. It was just like, you know, nothing had really happened." Detective Hayes also noticed that Chris kept his distance.

He was kind of hands off in the beginning of the investigation. He didn't know much. Some people had some suspicions about him early in the investigation because he didn't want to stick around. He didn't want to be involved with it.

Melody told detectives that Chris struggled with both his temper and his alcohol.

“Could that dangerous combination have led to Gary's death?”

I believe there are some threats made by Chris when he was intoxicated. Detective Hayes was talking about a time back in the summer of 2017, when Chris, who had been drinking, was ready to drive his daughter's home. Melody said she confronted Chris about being drunk, telling him he wasn't going to drive off the property with the girls.

That's when Melody said, Chris flew off the handle. "He's dead and in my driveway, you know, I would be you behind my recognition. In the next time I see you, this will take put you in the grave and a bag." Chris later testified that there was indeed a confrontation because Melody wasn't giving his children back to him.

But he said that he didn't know why Melody would say it was over his drinking. During the confrontation, Melody said that she threatened to call the police.

"No, that Chris absolutely despises me, because I'm when he preaches to him all the time

that he could run."

“His mother believed that he was still in money from his father.”

His father believed that, you know, he was, Chris was using him for the money, but he wasn't stopping it and he was, he was allowed him to do so. Chris had his own painting company. There were some indications that he was not as successful as I'm sure any business man would want to be.

Investigators discovered that Chris did have money troubles. Chris was having to borrow money and float checks is what I would call it, rock people checks until not to cash it until later or whatever. In a text message on June 12, 2018, three weeks before the murder, Gary wrote to Chris, "Your stealing money is out of control.

I will change my accounts tomorrow." But while there was evidence Gary was upset about Chris's spending, there was no evidence

“detectives concluded that Chris killed his father.”

According to digital records, the night that Gary was shot, Chris was 40 miles away at his Atlanta home. This meant there were likely only two family members left to investigate, melody and her son Scott. Upon enforcement had thoroughly searched the property's main house that melodies shared

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But his own mother saw Scott as a failure. I talked to Scott in 2024.

You've been characterized as a mooch as a leach as somebody who could never hold down

a job and that your father was incredibly disappointed at you. No. Is that true? No, it's not true. Because I served in the military, I served in the army.

I got released back in 2012, 2013, timeframe, and it was a reduction in force.

“So that's why I got released from the military.”

This gunfire is from a Facebook post Scott made in 2009. In the video, he's got on his army combat uniform and sunglasses, standing and shooting at targets. The post reads, "Having fun with my M249 saw." His original plan, once he was out of the military, was to enter law enforcement.

But that didn't quite work out. I came back into an economy that nobody was really hiring at the time. So, yeah, I went back in the selling cars and at the time nobody had money and I wasn't making a lot of money doing that and whatever jobs I was able to find were, you know, to take $10 an hour and, you know, when you're in your 30s, it's kind of hard to, you know,

live on your own off of that. Gary threw his son a financial lifeline. We sat down and taught and we arranged for me to manage the property and take care of the farm. Part of the arrangement was free room and board in that apartment above the barn.

He didn't cut me a paycheck.

He basically, he gave me a credit card or he gave me a debit card.

So I used the card to buy horse feed and goat feed and the hay and fertilizer for the pastures and then, you know, I would use the same card to, you know, get lunch and go get dinner. Scott told Detective Hayes that his father kept a close eye on his spending.

Scott said sometimes he'd be out with friends, looked down at his phone and there would

be a text from his dad.

“I could get a text message from him saying, okay, you spend enough money at this, you know,”

for the night or something like that. I'm like, really? It's like I worked for you 24/7, you know, I don't take a day off, I know, I asked for much, go out, everyone's in the wild. Scott relied on his father for just about everything.

Here again is Detective Hayes. When he needed something or wanted something or wanted to go out, he had to go to Gary and ask, hey, can I have some cash to spend or can I, can you put some money on this card

or can you unlock the credit card or whatever it was?

And he's an adult, right? He's a war veteran. He's served in the Middle East and he's talking to his dad like he's getting his allowance all the time, like he's 12 years old, that must have been humiliating for him. At the time, he didn't say humiliated, he very much seemed like he enjoyed the lifestyle

of being there and taking care of the form. But Melody told me that Scott's leisurely lifestyle was about to end. Gary, he made it very well known that Scott needed to get a job, things were fixing to change on that property. Scott knew the end was coming.

“He was just letting me know, hey, things are a change around here, you need to probably pursue”

another job. Could this sudden change have been a motive for murder? There were certain things that happened the day Gary Ferris' remains were found that raised suspicion.

When family members first began their search for Gary, Melody asked Scott, an avid hunter,

to go check his trail camera, it's used for tracking deer. I was looking at that trail camera to see if there was any clues to where my dad could ago, but just at a habit that I've done hundreds and thousands of times before I checked it and just hit clear all because I didn't see my dad on there. He just hit clear, claims there's nothing on it and deletes the memory heart.

It seemed fishy, but then the sheriff's office was eventually able to recover some of the images from that memory card. There was no picture of Gary. Then there was the question of the gun. Scott Ferris had flagged that there was a 38 snub nose revolver that had gone missing in

the basement and detectives had found a bullet of the same caliber on the basement floor, as well as the bullet pulled from Gary's rib. Some people thought, wow, Scott found a gun and now there's one missing and other people think immediately, why is he telling us this, he's, he may be responsible, investigators then checked Scott's apartment above the barn where they opened his dresser drawer.

Scott had some 38 caliber rounds in his, and one of his dresser drawers.

“Which member of the Ferris family at the farm is most familiar with firearms?”

Oh, Biscott, I would be Scott. Which family member has been trained by the United States Army to kill? Scott, which family member at the farm has the physical strength to lift a 300 pound man into that fire pile? Would Biscott be the most likely I'm not sure if he's strong enough to do that or not?

Scott defended himself when we spoke in 2024. Did you murder your father? Did you shoot him and put his body on a burn pile? No. There's no reason why I would, there's no, there's an absolute reason why I will want to murder

my father. He was the backbone of our family, why would I kill the man that I'm trying to meet? Detectives determined that while the bullets found in Scott's drawer were 38s, they were a different version than the recovered bullets that had Gary's DNA on them. Technically, they were not a match.

That left only one other person for investigators. The only person who hated hell was melody. The only person who was having affairs and spinning all his money was melody. From 48 hours, this is bloodesticker, the Ferris Wheel produced by Sony music entertainment. I'm your host Peter Van Satt.

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