Road to Redemption

[MUSIC]

“The journey of the last 25 years has really tested my faith.”

[MUSIC] In Palm Sunday, 1990, I'm in my choir robe at the back of my church, where I still sing in the choir today. [MUSIC] This glorious music is playing the church's full, everyone is singing. It's this joyful procession.

And the last thing I expected was to have the church secretary come to me and put her hand on my arm and say, you have a phone call. And that's when my heart started to pound because I thought something's wrong, really wrong. And it was my father on the phone.

And the first thing he said to me is that Nancy and Richard have been killed.

And he said someone killed them. This happy and couple with everything to live for with no enemies. With no reason that anyone in the world just want to take their lives.

“And right before she died, she drew this message in her own blood by his body.”

There's the shape of a heart and the letter you. Love you. [MUSIC] My name is Jean Bishop and I'm the sister of Nancy Bishop Langer and the sister and Richard Langer.

Who could have looked at Nancy's eyes? The beautiful light shining there and pulled the trigger. Why? Why them? Why Nancy and Richard Langer? It took 23 years to get the answer of why. [MUSIC]

You can't see too far in front of you. It really is kind of taking one step and then another step and another step. [MUSIC] It's about a two-hour drive down I-55. Then I go just about every other month.

Nancy is always in my heart when I make this drive.

This is my one story and it's been incredibly healing. [MUSIC] When I first started in this journey, I had no way of knowing that I would be in the place I am now. We're in front of Pontiac Prison where I come to visit the person who killed my family members. I can't close him off.

He is part of this story. So you believe he deserves a second chance. He deserves an opportunity. Yes. To perhaps get out.

Yes.

I knew at the first time I went there to see him in that prison that I'd be shaking the hand.

That held the gun, the killed her. [MUSIC] When Eca is this village on the North Shore of Chicago right along the Lakefront. More than 25 years after the brutal murder of her sister Nancy and brother-in-law Richard, Gene Bishop still lives in the wealthy Illinois suburb.

They grew up in. It was such a happy childhood. I was the middle of three girls. My younger sister Nancy and my elder sister Jennifer. It's a community where many Chicagoans move to raise their families.

And it was used by filmmaker John Hughes from movies like Home Alone. To convey picture perfect middle America. [MUSIC] It looks pretty idyllic when you're walking down the street. It's a real quiet unsafe community.

“That's what made the sound of sirens so shocking that Sunday in April 1990.”

Nancy's father Lee went to check on his pregnant daughter and her husband. [MUSIC] He had gone to the townhouse and run the doorbell and there was no answer. So he let himself in and then noticing the light on in the basement. He went to the top of the basement stairs.

He looked down in the emergency and Richard. And he could see them frozen in death. His youngest daughter and his son-in-law. But who would commit such a gruesome and deliberate crime? It would take a long time to answer that question.

And even longer for Nancy's family to find a path to forgiveness. Two and a half decades later, it is still a work in progress.

that you've been taking since your sister's murder?

“I think it's been this incredible adventure.”

Well, the heart of it was Nancy. Every time I get to say her name, every time I get to tell her story, it's a way of making sure that the world does not forget her. She was the comedian, and when she got older,

she was kind of the one who could get away with anything. Older sister, Jennifer. She was fun, fantastic sense of humor. My mother is a very, very classy, well-mannered, elegant lady. And Nancy would be the one that could just make her laugh

to the point when she would say, "Oh, that's awful." "Oh, that's awful." Joyce Bishop says her daughter, Nancy, was also a gifted performer, excelling it with Netca's competitive

new-tree or high school. But Nancy's aspirations stayed rooted in family. She wanted to be a wife and a mother. Exactly. And I have a home.

That was all she wanted. And she was on her way. In her early 20s, Nancy met Richard Langard. I thought he was just this perfect match for Nancy because he was this tall handsome jack.

“And he would just be kind of basking in this glow”

that she cast. He would kind of look at her like, "Isn't she the most wonderful thing?" I would look outside, and he would be out mowing our lawn

without having been asked. No, is that a good guy? That is a good guy. That is a smart guy. I declare that Richard and Nancy are husband and wife. They married in 1987,

and were soon working together for a growing coffee company. Every month, she was hoping and praying and wishing that she would get pregnant. Within a few years, Nancy found out she was pregnant.

She actually said 1990 this is going to be our year. Because they had been married three years. They were expecting their first child. They were moving into their first house. She was so happy.

But until their dream house was ready, Nancy and Richard were temporarily living in this townhouse owned by her parents. They really were just living out of the suitcase more or less. On Saturday, April 7th,

the family got together at a restaurant in Chicago to celebrate Lee's birthday and Nancy's big news. Nancy and Richard were just in their heyday. They loved it.

I had a baby gift already for Nancy, and we were just the happiest family you can imagine.

“What do you remember being the last words”

that you said to her that night?

Oh, I remember exactly because I never say them now.

I hugged her goodbye and I said I'll see you tomorrow. And I never say that to anyone anymore because you don't know that that will be true. When Nancy and Richard returned to the townhouse that night, their killer was already inside waiting.

The husband was executed, shot once in the head with his hands handcuffed behind his back. The wife was shot three times in the upper body. Everything in me stopped.

If you had sliced my wrist, I would not have bled. I was frozen. I didn't cry. I didn't feel the thing.

Serial. Serial. I didn't cry until the next day. The news of a double murder hit at the heart of this quiet community.

Whoever killed them broke into the house while the couple was away. As neighbors waited for answers, investigators at the crime scene had many questions about the killer.

There was nothing taken, nothing. No jewelry, no electronics, $500 of cash, strewn on the ground. Almost as if it had been handed to him like you'd take this and he had tossed it.

As I'd like. That's not why I'm here. What did that say to you? That said to me, this is a crime that is meant to be seen

as an assassination. As a execution. That it was planned. But thoughtably planned. Yes.

A multi-town police task force was assembled, and Sergeant Jean Calvatus was put in charge of solving the murders. It was hard to understand. As much as some things look professional,

other things just look so amateur. One thing they did quickly determine was how the killer came and went undetected. In the back yard, right near the point of entry

through the patio door, there's a fence there. Once you're over the fence, there's a bike trail down there.

You can go all the way to basically Chicago on it.

Rumors spread about an outside or bringing big city violence to Weneka, but the question of why them remained. You do a check on everybody. I mean, when you have no suspect,

everybody is suspect. But what if it turned out there was a connection between the suspect and someone in the Bishop family?

I understood that and so did my family. What traveled me was the notion that my sister's investigation was hijacked for some other purpose.

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like nothing that we had ever known before. In the days after the murders, the Bishop family learned from investigators chilling details of what happened in the last moments of the couple's life.

Which her died first.

“The gun was put to the back of his head.”

He was shot once execution style. Nancy was shot twice in her side in Antaman. And then I think at some point, she must have realized she was dying. And so she dragged herself by her elbows

over to Richard's body where he lay. The last thing that she did before she died was to leave us a message in her own blood. She took her finger in her own blood and she drew a heart and a U.

To love you. Well, it's probably the most heartbreaking thing that you could ever imagine. When I saw that heart there, my broke. When Detective Jean Calvades

walked into that basement,

he saw the brutality of the slings first hand

along with some odd clues. It was blood everywhere. He could smell it. And it was a set of handcuffs later. Near the back fence, a single glove.

From the onset of that case, we had very, very, very little evidence to go on. Investigators looked into Nancy in Richard's lives. Rumors of a drug connection to the coffee business they worked for were quickly dismissed.

Meanwhile, family members racked their brains for any clue they could come up with. Could you think of anyone who would have wanted to hurt them or any sort of revenge or anything out for Nancy and Richard?

Absolutely not. Completely mystified. Not a single thing. But other tips came in, including one that involved a possible link to the IRA,

Richard public in Army, and to Jean. Jean, who along with being a corporate attorney, was involved with human rights work. The FBI had a theory that, because I had been doing human rights work in Northern Ireland,

the IRA had thought that my human rights work was actually a cover for being in the CIA, and they had come to in that kit to kill me, and had mistaken Nancy for me, and that they killed the wrong person,

and that now I should tell them everyone I knew in Northern Ireland and all about them so that they could solve the murder. The FBI also claimed that there had been a death rat made against Jean by the IRA,

and given the fact that she had just returned home from a trip to Northern Ireland three days before the murders, investigators had some questions for her. Well, and I confronted her with that threat, and she simply denied it. She didn't believe it.

I was so shocked at this theory. She said the IRA doesn't target Americans. I kept expressing that, Jean, I said,

“you have to understand where I'm coming from.”

Do you have your sister who was pregnant was killed? Her husband was killed. Brutally, I need to find out who did that, and I go, I'm kind of surprised. They, you don't want to help.

She wasn't budged. Did you feel, like suddenly there had been a line in the sand drawn between your family and investigators? I felt at the time that they were considering me uncooperative,

and that's the thing that you never want to be.

But that's how the media in Chicago was playing it. When that couple of weeks have indicated that Jean Bishop shown here with other family members has not cooperated with authorities in the investigation of the double slain. And so on the news, they actually did this

kind of little spotlight around me. You know, as if, like, there she is, I thought, really, if you believe that my life was being threatened, and I'm still a target for whoever didn't succeed in killing me, and now you're highlighting my picture on the news.

But the IRA story and a connection to Jean never checked out as the weeks dragged on, it looked like the killer actually

Did you get to that point that you thought we may never know

who did this?

“Yes, although my heart didn't want to accept it,”

it felt so strongly that, you know, it would be this terrible, you know, shadow over my mother and my father and my sister and myself. Meanwhile, Jean Calvatus was still holding out for that one perfect tip to come in.

Oh, just hoping that somewhere along line that we'd get the break that we needed. After following a series of false leads, dead ends and spending about a million dollars, the task force had been shut down.

Then nearly six months to the day of the murders, two teenagers walked into the Wynnecke Police Department with an incredible story and blew the case wide open. So I called Jean, Calvatus, and I said, Jean, you're not going to believe this,

but a kid just came in here and told me he knows who killed the language. [ Music ] Six months after the murders of Nancy and Richard Langard, Wynnecke Police Sergeant Patty McConnell was on duty when two teenagers walked into the station,

asking about the Wynnecke Protection Program.

“Do you think they're playing a joke or did they look afraid?”

No, they definitely were not playing a joke. He was clearly very nervous. He was Fuhong, a senior at Newtree or high school who walked in with his girlfriend. He said, you know, I know who did the Wynnecke murders.

My friend David Biro, he told me that he did it. David Biro had bragged to his good friend about the killings, but said nothing about his motive. And he said, you know, he's got a gun. In his room, he showed me a gun,

and he said he got afraid that he thought he was going to kill again. Biro was no stranger to the Wynnecke Police. A small time punk to me is how I would characterize him. You know, I was very skeptical. I believe that David had told him that he killed them,

but I didn't believe David did it. That is until home describes something Biro had said about what happened at the crime scene. He said, you know, he got nervous after he was talking to them and he popped off around.

And when this kid said that to me, all the hairs on my arm and my neck stood on end, because I knew that they had discovered around in the wall

on the first floor just above the baseboard.

And I knew that that detail had not been in the newspapers. So only the killer could have known. Yes. And I was like chilled that, oh my God, he did do it. Biro was arrested the next day without incident outside his family's house

and a search warrant was issued for his padlocked bedroom. And the first place we went is it looked under the bed to see if a gum was laying or in fact there was. It was a stolen 357 Magnum, which test concluded was the murder weapon.

That's not all they found. Biro had handcuffs similar to those found on Richard and a scrapbook of articles on the killings. But Biro told police he was only holding the gun. For a friend.

Did you question Biro? I did. I would say he was very arrogant, smug.

“Partly I think because there was all kinds of speculation”

in the newspapers about a professional hit, I think he took a great deal of pride in that.

He never admitted that he had been involved in it.

David Biro was charged with two counts of first-degree murder. Intentional homicide of an unborn child, burglary and home invasion. He pled not guilty. You have this horrible crime.

And the idea is that it's someone coming from the outside. It has to be. It has to be. And in truth, it's, I mean, it's so ironic that it's someone, you know,

just a kid from the neighborhood. No one was more surprised than the Bishop family. I was shocked. I was absolutely shocked that a 16-year-old boy could have put a 357 magnum revolver

to the back of a grown man's head and pull the trigger. Even more shocking, David Biro was the son of a family friend. I know the Biro's. David Biro's father worked for my husband at one point.

I thought, well, that's a mistake, I'm sure. Every year, the Biro's would send a Christmas card to my family with a picture of them, the parents and the kids. And I thought, oh, my God, I've seen a picture of this killer.

But as information trickled out, Gene learned more about who that kid

What did you find out or hear about him?

“Very disturbing things that there had been”

a history of violence that he had fired out of his window with a BB gun at Passersby that he had lit somebody on fire. David was going down the road of a sociopath. True crime writer, Gerald and Colarek,

wrote a book about the case and described a deeply disturbed David Biro, who at age 14 tried to poison his family. His brother and sister are sitting down at the table for lunch and they drink some milk in the milk

is tainted. Somebody put wood alcohol into the milk. Within hours, Biro's parents checked him into a psychiatric hospital for juveniles but after less than two months,

they let him come home. Against doctors' recommendations for continued treatment. He convinces his father and mother not to let him go back.

And they didn't even bother doing any follow-up psychiatric with him. That was it. That's it.

“A hospital assessment written just after Biro”

left, read, "At the time of his leaving the hospital, we believed that he was dangerous to himself or to others. His parents didn't agree.

I pulled them partially responsible. They knew he was dangerous and they let him walk around unsupervised with a padlock on his bedroom door behind that padlock, a gun.

He sought thrills. They gave him a rush." Now three years later, and awaiting his murder trial, Biro's behavior remained arrogant and cocky.

The 40s now believe the language were chosen as victims less because of who they were than where they lived. The motive they believed and attempt to commit the perfect crime. In the fall of 1991, Biro went to trial with prosecutors using that perfect crime motive.

Their case was strong.

“They had Biro's confession to his good friend”

and all that evidence found in his bedroom, including the murder weapon. It was one of the most sensational murder cases in recent history. As the trial begins, many questions remain about the murders. But in a surprise move, Biro would take the stand.

His accused of two murders, but he's taking the witness stand in his own defense.

18-year-old David Biro is speaking out in public for the first time.

Biro stuck to his original story that he was just holding the gun for another student who had actually committed the murders. Prosecutors and investigators dismissed the claim outright. When I looked at him in the courtroom,

what I saw was a brash cocky young man who pretty much believed he was gonna outsmart all of us. Did you ever have any doubt that it was anyone other than David Biro who killed Nancy and Richard?

No. And neither did the jury. After a two-week trial, it took them just a few hours to reach a decision. The verdict is in for David Biro, guilty on all charges.

I just exhaled in relief. I think I felt my jaw loosened

and then clenched for the first time since they were murdered.

David Biro received two mandatory life sentences without the possibility of parole for murdering Richard and Nancy. The judge also gave him a discretionary life sentence for the death of their unborn child.

The judge made a speech in which he specifically talked about his age and he wanted it in the record. He had every privilege and his upbringing that he killed them for sheer entertainment

and that he was the most deserving of life of that parole because he was truly the most dangerous human being. Did you all have a collective agreement on the sentencing that you wanted for him?

Yeah, we wanted the maximum sentence which is the one he got. He'll die on a cold prison floor like Nancy died on a cold basement floor. The killer was going away for good

and with him when the answers they never got in court.

We all wish that part of the sentence would be that he would sit down with us and we could ask him why? How could you do this? That answer would come

but it would take 22 years a leap of faith and an incredible change of heart. There was only one person who knew the answers to the questions that I had

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Gene Bishop was consumed by one extraordinary thought. I knew instantly that I didn't want to hate anyone. And I said those words, I don't want to hate anyone.

When Nancy and Richard were killed,

as such a young age, I saw how short life is. How it can be taken from you in any minute. And I thought, "Oh my God, I'm wasting this life that God gave me."

And what can I do with it? What Gene and her sister, Jennifer, did was transformative. You both changed your lives and your livelihood because of this.

And after this. Both women began to work as outspoken advocates for gun control and against the death penalty by lobbying and speaking around the country about Nancy and Richard's story.

I have done a great deal of good work trying to change our violent culture and to help victims of violence. You're right here. I'm looking at Nancy on the top of that pyramid.

Amazingly, both Gene and Jennifer had forgiven David Bearrow,

even though he never admitted he was the killer.

“Yeah, I think here's what my forgiveness was like.”

It's like this. I forgive you. And now I'm wiping you off my hands like dirt. It is not for you. It's not about you.

It's for me. I'm sad for him. I'm sad for how cold and empty his life must have been and I am not going to hate him. In fact, Jennifer reached out to Bearrow.

Inspired by a movement known as Restored of Justice, which encourages reconciliation between offender and victims and their families. And I said in a very short letter. Here's my address.

I would welcome a letter from you if you would like to talk to me. That's all I said. That letter written about 13 years after the murders was not exactly embraced by Bearrow, the way Jennifer had hoped.

And he said, I'm not going to confess to this crime, but I'd love to be your pen pal. It would be fun. Those were his words.

Those were his words. And I said, I wrote back again a very short letter.

“You're clearly not where you need to be.”

If you ever change your mind, you know where to find me. Part of the sentence. While Jean, a well-paid corporate attorney at the time of the murders, made a complete 180 degree turn in her career. I've become a public defender with Cook County, you know?

A public defender? Yes. The reason? Jean says it's because of the way the FBI treated her in those early stages of the investigation.

When her human rights work was linked to the murders. So most people, Jean, they would think that you would run straight to the DA's office and say, I'll work for free. Because I want to catch the bad guy. I understood what it felt like to feel so powerless.

And what if you were someone who didn't have the resources that I did? They need a good advocate. But Jean remained passionate that juveniles with mandatory life sentences like David Bearrow should be behind bars for good. You even vowed not to say his name ever.

And I didn't. For 20 years, I would call him the killer, the intruder, the murderer. Because what I wanted was for Nancy and Richard's name to live and for his to die. That all changed after she met Mark Osler, a law professor who was on the opposite side of the juvenile justice issue.

Osler's mission is to seek reduced sentences and often clemency. She had a moral platform, and that was this life was taken from my family that he didn't even accept responsibility for what he did. And something remarkable happened. Jean may have forgiven Bearrow, but now she felt called to do more.

It was really my Christian faith being challenged that caused me to see David as a person

To realize I had to move beyond just forgiving him and wiping him off my hands to engaging with him.

“She started by writing her own letter to Nancy's killer in 2012.”

I didn't even think about the outcome as I was writing it. I just knew that I had to. And I thought, oh my gosh, I have been sitting back for decades waiting for this young man to apologize to me. I'm going to go first.

I'm going to say I forgave you a long time ago. And if you want me to come see you, I will. Several weeks later, in Omelope, landed in her work mailbox. This is the envelope. There's this name.

Well, that must have stopped you in your tracks. Oh, I froze to know it's his name, and that's his handwriting. Right? And my heart started hammering because I thought this is it. She couldn't open it just then.

She waited 48 hours, then passed it to Mark Osler. And I opened it. It's 15 18 pages, and it was remarkable. He said it's good. And I just sank down in the chair beside him and in relief. The letter contained the one piece of information she had been waiting more than two decades for.

“I think the time has come for me to drop the charade and finally be honest.”

I am guilty of killing your sister, Nancy, and her husband, Richard. I also want to take this opportunity to express my deepest condolences and apologize to you. And I started to cry.

I never thought I would receive that.

And to have it was such a burden lefty that it was just like this rock being lifted off of me. For him to understand the magnitude of what he took and to own it. Then the man who murdered her sister agreed to meet her face to face. Five months later, Jean made the two-hour drive to Pontiac Prison. Well, at first it was kind of a shock the last time I had seen him.

He was the Skinny's 16-year-old boy. The person I saw walking for the door was a 40-year-old man. So I'd mention one of our visits. It would be the first of dozens of visits. This video taken by a newspaper photographer captured one of their more mundane conversations.

She's written about those experiences and a recent book called "Change of Heart." I actually wrote you a letter. I don't know if you got it. Not yet. Has he ever told you what happened that night?

Oh, the first thing he wanted to do was to tell me this is his explanation.

He went to do a burglary. He wanted to wait for the homeowners to come home. He wanted to take their wallets on their car and they saw him. And that's when he said, "I knew I had to finish it." I had to finish it.

Yeah. And when he said that word, "I thought in that first meeting, "Oh my God," "that it you're talking about is my sister and her husband." And that's been part of the reward and the blessing of this journey of these visits with him as having my sister and her husband transformed from an it to these people.

In June of 2012, a few months before Gene's letter to Bureau arrived, there was a major U.S. Supreme Court decision, leaving mandatory life sentences for juveniles as cruel and unusual punishment. That means that David Bureau could qualify for a reduced sentence, or even be released.

Gene Bishop is now advocating that her sister's killer

get a chance at a second chance.

He methodically gone down to people in your family, even though he knew your sister was pregnant. She was begging for her life. He just doesn't strike me, Gene, with all due respect as the poster child for second chances.

Does he deserve another chance? Yes, I think he does. Why? Because I think everyone does.

“I think that it's utter hubris for us to say”

to any human being. This one thing you did was so bad that we're going to freeze it in time forever. All you will ever be is killer. And our punishment for you will be endless until you die. But as you might imagine, not everyone agrees.

It all boils down to one thing. Are there some people for whom permanent separation from the rest of society is sadly necessary? Is David Bureau that person? Yes, he is. Do you think you should be the worst player in this school?

This player is my safe space. Do you think everything is possible? Yes, exactly. This player is like the worst player who just understands. The worst player is the best player in the world.

The worst player is the worst player in the world. The worst player is the worst player in the world. The worst player in the world. The worst player in the world. [Music]

Did you ever think that you would be here discussing the possibility of him being

“resentenced and possibly seeing the light of day again?”

No, it never occurred to us.

It's November 5th, 2015. Almost 24 years to the day from when David Bureau went on trial for the Languard murders and Nancy's sister Jennifer and mother Joyce are back at the same courthouse as a legal hurdle to Bureau's case is argued.

I think it's an exercise and futility myself. But if he's going to go down there, I'm going to go down there. Are both sides ready to proceed? Yes, you are. All right, you may proceed with your argument.

Bureau who was not in court has denied our request for an interview. The Supreme Court ruling guarantees that David Bureau will be resentenced for the two mandatory murder convictions, which means he could get a reduced sentence. Be released or it could stay exactly the same.

Life in prison. It's only mandatory senses that have been struck down by the Supreme Court. I'm behalf of Mr. Bureau. There is one legal hitch because the third sentence for the murder of Nancy's unborn child was not a mandatory life term.

It could impact the judge's decision on resentencing. So a discretionary sentence like the one that David got for killing the baby on purpose that could still be in place no matter what happens to the other sentence. It cannot be said that the sentence-- Bureau could be resentenced as early as next year.

“So as we sit here today, do you think that he should be released?”

I don't know.

I've never seen his prison record.

I've never read any psychological evaluations of him either as a 16 year old or as a 42 year old. There is so much that I need to know. And there's a lot more she wants David Bureau to know. No matter what, the outcome of his case. I mean, one of the most rewarding things about visiting him

and telling these stories about Nancy and Richard, he gets to know her better. And as he knows her better, he says, you know, the more I know the worse I feel about what I did. Do you want him to feel worse? I do want him to feel bad about what he did. And then that imposes an obligation on him to do good.

No matter where he is, whether he's in prison or out. Do my last breath, well, he ever kept that. Every day, Joyce's reminded of the loss of Nancy and Richard. After the murders, she and her husband moved into that townhouse.

“I think that being here almost makes me feel like well, Nancy and Richard were here and that's nice too.”

I take comfort in that that she was here. Joyce says she cannot forgive because she cannot forget. And if he said, forgive me, I would say, are you kidding? I come to the part in the Lord's Prayer where it says, and forgive me my sins as I forgive those who sins it. I don't say it as second part.

I don't forgive, not that one. Would you be afraid for your safety of David Bureau without? Clearly. Yes. The general public is in danger. He has not gotten any better.

He's still manipulative. He never confessed or apologized and admitted to the crime until the Supreme Court ruling.

And you don't see that as a coincidence. There is calculation. Absolutely. Like everything else he does. You know, there's a cost to stepping out like this. I know that it has to hurt to all of a sudden feel that we're not on the same side anymore in a sense.

And that has made keeping a promise made a long time ago challenging, but not impossible. It was the first time I saw her after Nancy and Richard were killed, as we were holding on to each other. I remember saying to Jane, it'll never be just the two of us. It'll always be the three of us. And it still is. It still is.

We agree to disagree. We love each other deeply.

Despite their ideological differences,

“Joyce's her daughters have found their own way to work through them.”

The girls can have a different opinions without being broken up about it.

Not everybody is the same.

We all think differently, but we're all family, and we all love each other. [music]

“Every Palm Sunday after we process up that aisle and we go up into the choir loft,”

I'm looking at that procession of children, and every time I do that, I cry.

It's been said there is no one or right way to grieve. It seems the same is true for healing. If he has to spend the rest of his life in prison, I'll still be making that drive down I-55. I'll still be both through that door.

I'll still sit down and visit with him.

“I'm not telling you this is this formula you have to follow.”

I'm saying that I have to forgive. [music] In 2022, David Bearrow's appeal for a resentencing was denied by a Cook County Judge in Illinois, Bearrow remains in prison, serving a life sentence.