The wedding night & waiting 'till marriage: Your most chaotic questions answered!

On the day of Abigail. Did text Caleb and I said, "I can't do this." Oh my gosh, Abby, he's probably pooping his pants. This is something that really triggers me and posts loss.

“It's talking about age gaps, honestly, but really kids.”

Because it's something that I like tried to perfectly play. I'm pro-hunky. Abby, if someone is at the light and they're not going, you don't think I'm going to give my little love to up. I'm guess I'm pro-hunky.

You, Abby, I'm eight dollars.

Welcome back to, always here.

I'm your host, Abby Howard. And Abby Howard. Hey, hey. How we doing, ladies? Ooh!

Something bug has a left. It's like, like, the lingered around. It's just hit more people. You guys. Last week I said, didn't know what it was like

for a baby to puke. Now I do. Unfortunately, Brielle had it over the weekend. She only puke twice, two separate occurrences. A lot during those occurrences,

but two separate occurrences. And now she's better, she's not throwing up, but she's still kind of not 100% back yet. But she fussy and stuff in between, like, you can tell she--

I can tell she did. She wanted me to be put down, which is not normal for me. And she really likes to play independently, and she just wanted to sit on my lap the whole time.

Like, she would sit there and just lay next to me. I'm like, where are you doing this in that normal?

Which was sweet, like I loved cuddling her,

but I could tell she was just not feeling the best. Totally unfortunate. And then, like, got a little nauseous, little sick. I'm still good. I'm one stay away.

I'm scared. I'm scared. No, I feel bad. I'm sorry. I'm so scary.

I thought we were in the clear. I mean, oh, I talked about this a long last episode, but that morning that we've filmed in the podcast, I disinfected her house. I scrubbed everything.

The couch front, back underneath the top. It's like, every surface I vacuumed, I mocked. Well, they also attacked you off to-- When you were sick. So, yeah, but they didn't come inside.

They just put on our porch. So, now our family-- we had a family and come and town this weekend, and it is starting to run through them as well. I know.

Pre-engine. It's a poor engine. I call them, I can pray if you're a girl. So, they have flight today, too. They push it back.

Oh, okay, guys. I know. No one wants to be on a plane. No one wants to be on a plane. So, yeah, our Matt and Caleb's, our husbands,

extended family was in town like the whole week, but we really mostly saw them on the weekends. Yeah, that was fun. So fun. It's always fun.

Have people in town.

“We have people who are family though, isn't it, too?”

I know. I'm like, wow, this is just a really tight knit family. So, it's fun. No, it's fun. It's so fun.

So, yeah, we spent so much time outside. You've come over here, we swam, we have pizza. You guys made a good Hawaiian meal the next night. Curl some chicken. Yeah, it's fun.

I learned the art of paper plates.

After that first night, Abby is always the dishwasher.

I feel like it was like-- Well, you look like a green. I thought about doing paper plates. And I'm not going to turn off my job. No, they're still plenty of dishes.

And I was like, wow, this is amazing, so free. I still will never use paper plates just so it's just my family or even just a small group. But that was a lot of people. That was 11 adults. Right.

That's a lot more. Three kids saw, I was like, okay, we'll do paper plates and it was so convenient. If you haven't discovered paper plates, here is your opportunity. I feel like my family went through a phase where my mom just kind of threw in the town.

She said I'm done doing dishes for a while and just said paper plates. We were like a solid paper plate family for a couple of years, which I know is not good water. But actually, you know, Angie said that she thinks that they did some studies and they said that.

Maybe this was a paper plate company, but that running your dishwasher is more energy consuming than using paper plates.

“Well, I believe that paper plates use less water, but don't you think it's like the”

lane phase? Maybe. Yeah. It doesn't feel right to me either, but you know, I won't. I still am not a paper plate person.

I don't know. I wasn't raised that way. I don't know. But sometimes, you just, yeah. It's just, yeah.

It's just, yeah. I think that was, I don't really have a solid hope and a heart, honestly. We're just talking about it. I think that was it. Having family towns really fun, recovering from the stomach, but my mom gets back

in town tomorrow. Bad, I'll be great. I'm so excited. Oh, and I get my hair done tomorrow. That's my fault.

That's my fault. I'll just change your whole life. I know. I feel like I'm coming out of that fog where I feel like the last three weeks, the fog is lifting out of my mind.

I'm just postpartum hormones. Like I feel like a different person. Well, I still have a whole zone to memories. It does. It's way down.

I don't want to. I don't want to. I want to wait until after I went through all the postpartum hair loss and all of that to get it. Your hair still looks really thick.

Thanks. Yeah, I wasn't, I mean, it definitely hit me a little bit on the sides, but not horribly. That was bad as I did with CJ, I think. But yeah. That's super hopeful.

I think I'm going to go shorter. Yes. Good. A little bit of brightness. That will be great.

Yeah. I haven't ever gone like above my shoulders. Yeah. Yeah. I actually have, I think.

I'm kind of dramatic with my hair transformation.

If I'm going to go, I want it to be.

I want people to notice like, I'm not feeling sick at her at one time when I was there for four hours. The kill goes, what did you do to your hair? Oh. It looks amazing.

“But I think that's the signs of a good haircut is like, it was very natural looking.”

Yeah. I think you're doing natural looking and be a big difference. Oh, you know. She did a really good job, but yeah. Kill did not notice.

So you have a blue thing. We'll see you. Yeah. It'll be exciting. My hope is just being halfway through the pregnancy.

Now being public. Wow. Is that really leaving? Yes. And no.

It didn't feel like it was like some big secret that I was like, worried about hiding. Like, I don't know. Some people were like, oh, you can kind of see your bum here. I was like, I don't care.

It's not like some big secret, but it is. I don't know. A part of me did kind of want to keep it private forever, but you really can't do that. Right. And I also feel like purpose in sharing like about it too.

So no. It feels good. My heart though, is that our anatomy scan. I'm sorry. I'm wondering about this so much to you guys.

I was just really first of all.

“I think it's a little deeper than this like thing because I just wanted everyone to just”

be like, everything's perfect. Right. Stop worrying. Everything's fine. Like, baby looks great, which is obviously like we're so grateful for that and do feel

really from that. Yes. But just like where the placenta attached, it's in the lower part of my uterus. And so they have recommended pelvic breasts for at least four weeks. And so this means I can't go to the gym, which is like obviously by the thing that I

talk all the time about like loving so much. It's like a great part of our morning routine, getting out of the house, socializing, getting activity in. Especially at this stage of pregnancy. So much energy at this point.

I feel like so like, what's the word? Like I think the biggest jump you take and like belly size is literally from 18 to 22 weeks. Oh yeah. And so I'm like, oh man, I really wish I could like move a little.

Like keep this thing going. Right. But no. So it's fine. I'm actually learned to really love my walks.

I've been going on long walks because they did say I can do walks. And I listen to some audiobooks and I'm having a great time. People are like, you take your kids with you, right? I'm like, no. No.

No. You think they could sit in a stroller for four miles? Right. No. No.

Especially he's been over a hundred now. I think I'll do that. So I've missed going on walks. It's so hard getting everyone curled to go on a walk. Like people are like, just take your dog and walk right in with the poor Lewis.

But I'm like to put two babies, two kids in a stroller, a horse on my waist, and then C.J. is usually on a bike. That's a stroller. That alone talks about four minutes. It's not like a leisurely walk.

I'm like, this is, this is actually the survival. Adventure. Yeah. This is, I had to mentally prepare for this. So yeah, no, no.

A solo walk is a dream. Also no intercourse. I'm just going to say that. Oh, that's the hardest part. I'm sorry.

Just go throw that one in there. I just mad. I'm sorry, man. You guys got a lock in. You got a lock in.

You got a lock in. You got to mentally get it together. You saw it. I go go the other week. Three more weeks.

I know. You just thought that it. It is actually pathetic. I'm like, don't kiss me. He's complimenting you every five seconds.

Your pump is so cute. You're like, get away. I'm like you. No, my gosh. That's fine.

It's fine. I'll then we'll get you a lid up like a little, uh, you're not allowed to do anything. Yeah.

Literally, the second try.

Are you kidding? I know. Gosh, dang it. That's the best time. I'm fine.

We'll go back in three weeks. Lock in.

“You need to, like, some distraction techniques.”

I have none. I just go to bed. I'm literally like, I just have to sleep. I mean, that's good. I actually have been sleeping a little bit.

Good. Good. Anyway, moving right along. This episode is all about you guys. This one's for you guys.

That's so excited. I am really excited. We have. Should we share her? Uh, topics?

Sure. So, okay. This whole episode is dedicated to voicemails from you guys. Because we love hearing from you all. And it's just, like, it just, I don't know.

It's the most rewarding part of this show. I really feel like knowing, like obviously we see the numbers. We see comments and stuff, but hearing your voice. I just feel like it puts humans to what we read and see online. And so, it just makes it feel so, like, it feels really real for us to hear.

Right. And, like, a small element of your life, too. Like, your personal life. We hear about so much about our lives. Right.

It's really cool to get, like, a little bit from you guys, too. So, that's what this whole episode is. And these are, like, we call them major buckets. We're talking about pregnancy and parenting. Marriage and dating, friendship, and then we just have some for fun ones.

We'll see what we get, too, because we get a little chatty sometimes.

“But, um, yeah, thank you to everyone who sent voicemails.”

And then if we will always do this segment in future episodes,

but just not as many as this current episode. So, if you do want to call in, the number is 602-456-9690. Woo. Thank you, Adi and Hannah, for going through and picking us out. It was great hearing everyone's questions.

I hate the ones we can't make. I'll also give a PSA. If you're leaving ones that are, like, over 45 seconds, there's less likely that they're going to make it in the episode. So, keep them under, like, 30, and you're way more likely to make it in the episode.

Okay. Little PSA. Hi. I am 10 almost 11 months postpartum. And I am down bad with baby fever.

I want another baby so badly. But my husband wants to wait until we have a vacation in August to get pregnant after. What was your logic behind the age gap of your kids and do you wish that you did anything differently

in terms of the age gap between your siblings? Thanks so much for the podcast. That's a great question. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Make up baby. I feel like whatever you're excited about it. Yeah. But you both have to be excited about it.

Yes. So that is hard. But you can just say, hey, I can be pregnant in August. Yeah. We go on vacation.

No big deal. I guess, yeah. Where's the vacation? You're pregnant now.

And then you're in your second trimester and August.

And then you'll feel great. That's so true. Yeah. Because if you're in your first trimester on vacation, I could see him being, like, let's just wait a little bit to ask you that.

Also, if you do both agree on needing to wait, that's really not that huge. Yeah. It's not that long. But I get that. Oh my gosh.

Just make it one. Make it me. Well, okay. Tell us your age gaps. My age gap was unplanned with Griffin, August.

So they were only 13 months apart. And it's so fun now. So I'm like, not a good.

“I'm not the person to talk to, honestly.”

It'll give me bad advice. But I just do it. Just make another one right away. But what I do forget that it was really hard in the beginning with the two little. It's like literally a year apart.

I had two babies for a little bit there.

And then we perfectly planned our third one.

And they were going to be two and a half years apart from the youngest to the baby. We unfortunately lost that pregnancy. And then just were like, whatever. We were like, whenever a baby comes, we were really grateful. And so now we have our third August or July baby in a row, you know?

Which I was trying to avoid living in Arizona. But life just has a way of reminding you that you're not in control. Right. And so yes. And so that gap will be three and four years between my kids, which was bigger than I ever.

Wow. I didn't really want it. This baby in August will be three, three full years. Basically because this baby's due day is August 11th and August birthday is August 10th. Oh, I'm amazing.

It's like exactly three years. That's good. Which feels big and daunting. I'm really.

“I feel like that's what we want for our next gap.”

Ideally. So the gap between CJ and Vivian is about two years and three months. We were pretty strict about waiting the 18 months because I had the unplanned C-section with CJ. And my doctors are pretty firm with me about wanting to wait a full 18 months to get pregnant,

which was like that honestly sounds like a great timeline anyway, because then they'll still be relatively close in age. And yeah, they waited. And then basically the 18 months was like, okay, let's start. And then we got pregnant right away.

Thankfully. So I think an ideal timeline for us this time. Have these two close. Then have a three year gap and then have two more kind of close. That's what we're going to do.

Yeah, I think we want like a buddy system. Ideally, okay, actually this is something that really triggers me post loss. It's talking about age gaps honestly, but really kids. Because it's like something that I like tried to perfectly plan and like all worked. And so then I was like, this is so dumb that you've been talking about.

Because it's so out of my hands. But I understand that it is worn, like worn to conversation. But like ideally, that's what happened next for us. Yeah, I think it's good to have them close. But also like I know a lot of people that have kids with a gap.

And it's great too. Yeah, but I totally am like if you're excited about having kids, and I feel like they didn't have a kid. Yeah, I don't know. That was one of our husbands cousins.

How what's our relation to them? Who? Eva? Oh, she's our cousin's wife. Our husband's cousin's wife.

Our husband's cousin's wife. There hasn't had no way to start her family. And I'm like, yeah, whenever you're both excited about it, well, I don't know. Or until the good Lord gives you a bit.

Until it's happened. I'm Theresa and my feelings for all entrepreneurs start a shopping trip. I'm sure that's the first day. And the plan for me makes me no problem.

I have lots of problems, but the plan for me is not a single one. I have the feeling that shopping trip is a plan for me.

And the time, and the money that I can't afford can be invested in. For everything, in Waksthong. Now, let's test on Shopify.de. I was just wondering if you could talk about

how the transition goes from having one baby to two.

My husband and I are considering having a second one.

I was also wondering how it is having a C-section. When you have a toddler at home, that's something I'm really nervous about. And you could just give your advice. And things on that.

That would be great. Thank you. I will take you guys. Bye.

“One side note is I think both of these last two boys”

were while they were driving. I think I just think it's sweet. They're listening. Best mom lied for you. Yeah.

Mom's on the go. Well, do you want to enter the C-section with a toddler part of the question? Yeah. Unfortunately, I feel I blocked out.

I feel like you handled it really well. Really? Yeah. That's so nice. I'm just still at the age where he wanted to be held a lot.

I don't remember that really. Like you. It didn't stop you. Like. You know.

And you were not just ending the day. No, no, no. I mean, like. Either way, whether you have a baby or not. Like, if you have a C-section or a vaginal birth,

you still have downtime to where it's like, you, it's hard to pick up your baby. Yeah, I want to say mom's listening. You know, you know what I'm about. Like you feel this.

What I'm gonna say. Mom's making it happen. You didn't. Like you just make it happen. It's gonna do what you gotta do.

And so like, I remember it being difficult, but you just, you just simply make it happen. And so yeah, a C-section after when you have a toddler,

“I think as candidates, you can just be like,”

I want to hold you so bad right now. You know, but like, obviously, early one, I really am not a good idea. So I would just sit down and put them on my lap all the time.

And then make sure I would always have like ice packs.

Like the freedom moms. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh no. Oh no.

Oh no. Well, they've been chilling together, grand. But I don't know the grand. I don't know about it. No, they have a great-nobody.

That's a great story baby. Frozen Gordon. I'm not gonna turn on that. But amazing C-section recovery man. Um, that has a ice.

We can make a hot or cold and a cold on that. Really, it also protected the area. So he could sit on my lap. Um, we also load your baby in their car seat. Like, not in the whole,

like, two jumps lift up the whole do not. Um, I also feel like this might, I don't know if this is medically sound. But moving as much as possible does help. Oh, I think.

Like moving a lot. Like with my toddler. Even though I was like sore. Like it wasn't like sore. That was like, oh, this is hurting my healing progress.

It was sore in the sense of like, this is just what it's gonna feel like to do things. Um-hmm. Like as this is healing. But I feel like if I were to stay still, what have been worse.

I would go on walks even like kind of really right after.

“I think you healed way quicker than me from those from the”

Sees section. I remember I saw a video of you skipping. Uh-huh. Why is it creepy? And I was like, what the heck?

Why is she skipping? I can't skip. And so I tried it. And I was like, you know what? I think I need to move more.

[laughter] Wait, why was this skipping? And then I just actually got up. And I was like, can I do that? You're like a month, but 16 days at behind me.

And I was like, wait. I don't think I'm-- she's-- I probably need to move some more. [laughter] I couldn't walk-- I didn't walk a mile from. Well, that was a difference of having a toddler, too.

Like, you couldn't-- Yeah, you have to. Yeah. So I think you're actually probably gonna love it. You're covered. I think you're gonna--

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Propeller forward. Yeah. And then what was the other part of her question?

Oh, the transition from one to two. Oh, okay. I actually think I was humbled. Pretty good. [laughter]

Thank you so much. I'm surprised you say that because you did so good. That's really sweet. I think my mom, if she was here entering, she'd be like, yeah. You needed help.

[laughter]

I think those first four months, I was pretty surprised that I was still struggling.

At least internally. I felt like I was struggling. I had a lot of help. Thankfully, my mom stayed for eight weeks. And I think if she had left earlier, obviously,

you figured it out. Right. But I was like, I remember getting upset with myself because I'm like, I still can't picture myself taking care of CJ alone in the morning, without like really feeling super overwhelmed with taking care of CJ and the baby.

It was really just the morning specifically. So, yeah, I think I was just pretty humbled by that. But you get over the hump once you start. I think after those eight weeks when I was forced to do it by myself, and like practice it and get into routine,

it obviously was way smoother. So yeah, it was pretty hard. But I think if you have a support person like my husband didn't get paternity leave. So my mom is there to help me.

If you have just one person to help you with your first child, it makes it so much better. Thank you guys. My name is Megan. I'm the first time mom.

The first week of March, my five month old girl is going to be turned six months. And so we're going to be starting to follow it.

But I wasn't sure how you guys went about feeding your first

time babies. I'll let you guys love y'all. But yeah, Addy, this is you. You know, this is scary. I actually when I was listening back, we talked about it

on one of the episodes that I was really nervous to start solids. And it was really stressing me out. By the time we had recorded that episode, and then I reviewed it.

So we recorded on Wednesdays. I reviewed the episode on Monday. I was like, what the heck was I stressed about? It's one of those things you don't know what you're doing. So it stresses you out.

And then you start doing it and it becomes fun. So I'm like, okay, just pick what was she want? Does she want to pack it? Do you want to get her oatmeal?

“Or do I want to give her actual things to bunge on?”

And just choose. And I kind of just didn't stress about it. I live in the world that I'm like everything's probably going to go well. And I'm not like super stressed about her choking or things like that happening even though that can happen.

But I just started with the breast milk oatmeal, which is what you both recommended for me. And that was great. She loved it. And then I've done packets.

And then I've just given her a couple like berries and fruits and just things for her to chew on. And it's been fun once I started it and not stressed about it. I was more so stressed about the schedule and what I just did in my, I was like, okay, you feeder a bottle when she wakes up

and then an hour after that I gave her a snack of some sort. And I just did that every week window so that I didn't stress too much about it. Mm-hmm. That's awesome. It's really good advice.

I think to the not stressing about it part. I feel like the internet has so much information on feeding your baby that I was like, I remember feeling really overwhelmed by it.

And I never did the baby lead weaning with CJ.

And I don't only plan on doing it with the baby in either, but I've had a lot of, I think it was really good for me just doing the baby oatmeal puree and then working her way up to harder foods. And like, munching on stuff is great. I think to the expectation at first,

just know that your baby is not gonna like it at first. Like, I just gave baby an oatmeal last week for the first time. And she did not, like, the first time she was spitting it out because it feels different. Like, the texture of it is so new.

And the second time she loved it and made it. So, just like, practice makes perfect. And they'll figure it out. Yeah. Introducing things multiple times because just because the first time they eat the oatmeal,

they don't want it. Doesn't mean the second time they're not going to want it. And so, just keep introducing things and do what you're comfortable with. I think that's the most, the best advice I could give. I'm, for some reason, in my brain,

giving Braille rice doesn't make sense to me. But I see other people giving their kids rice. I'm like, she can't chew. It's just gonna get stuck at her throat. For some reason rice gives me.

So guess what, she just doesn't have rice milk. I'm not ready for that.

“But you can have broccoli, you should get a carrot.”

It's like there's different things that I'm comfortable. Both my kids actually love food. Like, from the job. They loved it. Like, from the job.

I actually, quickly, you said you gave milk first in the food.

It, we, like, were right away went to food and then just kind of a little bit of milk. They really love food. But I did two completely different approaches. So with my first, I did baby blood.

Weeding, like, by the book. I downloaded feeding little's, like, did the thing. Made the food, like, we're actually getting, like, there was gagging involved. It was the whole nine yards.

And then with my second, I literally did strictly pure rays for the first, like, good chunk. And I, and here to report, just in my small case study, my second is much better than my first. I don't know.

So I don't, I say this is, say, don't stress because I'm, which is what you guys both said. But like, they're gonna, your kids are gonna be who they're gonna be. And I feel like their palettes are gonna just

develop into their palettes. And there's just not as much we can do about it, as we would like to think that we can. But, um, it's a fun season. So don't, I don't know.

I look different for everybody too. Like, it is fun. It is fun. It is fun. It is fun.

It makes your life a lot easier for nursing. Oh, my gosh. (laughs) Hey, Abby. Abby and Abby.

My name is Brittany. Freight up on a podcast by the way. I listen to it all week while I get ready for work each morning. My question is, when someone is disciplining

their child in front of your child, and in a different way, they are disciplined. How do you approach her with your child and explain to them? Thanks.

Keep up the good work. Yeah, we've had this conversation. Uh-huh.

“And then we would say, hey, that's what they do in their house.”

We do it differently here. Or that might be okay for them, but it's not okay around here, like sometimes. Yeah. Just saying that we can have different expectations.

And, um, it's only felt like necessary when they ask. And so it's usually involving a form of discipline that, like obviously we don't use, but then there's also kind of like,

I don't know, socially deviant way. Like, it involves, I'm not like, split. I'm not going to say, I'm going to do this. There's a certain, like, there's a certain type of punishment

that we don't use. Oh, okay. And this is the one that, anything involving physical punishment we don't use. Oh, sure.

And so, like, when that has happened in public, like, I think it actually kind of scares our kids because they're like, wait, that's actually something we're not allowed to do. Like, and so I feel like that's where it's come up.

in their house. It's hard, though, too.

You know, but, you know, it's hard

'cause they start to really observe. Like, I feel like Griffin is really observing things now and how people different people are disciplined.

“But I think it's a good lesson to learn.”

Like they do differently. Yeah. That's how we do it in our house. But this is how we're still going to do it. Totally.

And they do it differently and that's okay. But has that happened with CJ yet? He hasn't really asked. No. For instance, we were at a play area,

like a local one. And I'm like, a mom hit her kid. Oh. What are you doing that situation, thing? Like in the face.

What? Yeah. Uh. I've done it. What are you doing?

I've done it. Like, so you can't do it. You can't do it. She was yelling. So it was already drawing attention.

And then she hit her hit her kid in the face. And like your kid is asking. I think she was scared. Yeah. Were you near her?

I was far enough away. So one of my friends was really close to her. And I was far enough away. But I saw it happen. I think it was near her.

I would think it would have gone. Oh, wow. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.

“I think that's how you would dress it with your kid.”

I think I just like stood up and looked at her. Because I was like, hey. I want you to know that everyone's watching you. Like, well, she's doing that in public. What is she doing behind her?

And so he came up to me afterwards. He was like, that mommy hit. And I was like, and I was like, yeah, that wasn't a good choice. Yeah. But then there's other forms of physical punishment.

That is like less jarring. But still like. Thank you so much. There's the difference between that's not how we do it. And we do it differently versus that wasn't acceptable.

Yeah. Like a spanking. I'm like, I'm not going to. I'm just like, they do things differently. Yeah.

And so. But then with that, I was like, that's actually abuse. Yeah. So I was just like, yeah, that wasn't a good choice. And I was like, mommy's like, like, like, make mistakes too.

Uh huh. I said, I hope she said, sorry. Like, I was just like, that's a really good hand of that Abby. Uh, that's great. She comes to role.

I mean, you don't see it a lot. But we've seen a couple of times. Yeah. And airport too. Like, the dad was just screaming at his kid.

Like in a way that was like. Yeah. How could this not be verbal abuse? And so. And then, of course, about kids are just staring.

I know the screaming is so interesting because I'm like, the other person. I know it's trying to get the benefit of the doubt. Like that could just be like a horrible day. The wood's end.

But like, slapping a kid across the face. I think I've been, I think I would've let it go. Wow. I think you would. I'm pretty nervous.

I'm not afraid of comfort. I just was like, if it's like blatantly long. That's crazy. That's really crazy. Hi.

My name is the Angelina. And I'm calling to see if either of you have any advice. If I should quit my corporate job and stay at home with my three year old and my one year old. Or if I should continue doing it. I've been debating this for a couple months down.

Not sure what to do. Thanks. Oh my gosh. The Angel question. That is the Angel question.

I've been listening to a lot of Dave Ramsey about this exact topic. Really? And we're here. Oh. Well, it's a hard topic to talk about because I do feel like so situational for every person.

I think that the data is pretty clear about like the benefits of staying with a mom being with the baby, at least from the ages of like zero to three. That's like the best for the child. But everyone's financial. Like some people like financially.

That is not an option.

And so the goal is never to get those people in the thinking they're not doing the best.

Because I think you can really raise your kids excellently. It's still work. My parents have worked full of time. Yeah. The whole time I was growing up.

But if it's like without knowing about her financial situation. It sounds like she's financially able to do it, right? Yeah. So it's like if you want to. I think you should just do it.

You'll never get this time back. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. If it's something that you can financially do.

I think it's the best. Like it's so amazing getting to stay home and just be with your babies. If you're like worried about the transition of that. I actually one of my best girlfriends. They were a dual income household.

And for a while they did a test. Well, they only ever lived off of his income. Even though she made more. Yeah. And so they kind of did a test run of that to see.

And they were able to make it work. And she really wanted to do that. And so they made this way. So if you can test run it, just like go for a little while living off of one income. And then decide.

But yeah. I don't think you'll ever, ever regret staying home with your kids. Like ever. If you're financially stable and not something that. I agree.

It kind of sounds like she is at that point. Then I would say. Do it. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

It could be in a game too. Are you like paired on your hours? I don't know what. I was on shopping. I feel like the corporate job would have an option for that.

It's good. I don't want to quit. Part time.

“But if you want to do a part time and I transition out.”

Then I'm more comfortable doing that. Or taking a break. Seeing you feel like you take a sabbatical. Do it for a little bit. Just see.

It just really depends on the job.

But I think even me always saying that I was going to work.

The whole like always. I'm like in that. But where I'm like financially I can't do that. Like just be a stay at home mom. Also, I think I would still want to work.

But I'm like, what does that look like?

And I think having a three year old and one year old is a perfect time to do it.

Because once I get into school, you can also go back to work if you want it to. And get a part time job or something like that. Yeah. A greedy. This isn't me giving my notice.

[laughter] Great advice. My job is different. I get to keep my baby and work with my family. It's the best thing for me.

It's true. That's true. That's true. That's true. You're like, where you go to go.

I think that's it for this category. Okay. Do we want to go to marriage and dating? Friendship. Pop culture.

Let's go. Let's go pop culture and then end on marriage. Yeah. And friendship. Friendship is one too.

Throw that after. Let's do that after pop culture. Okay. Pop culture is a mix of like fun light hearted questions and then pop culture once. Okay.

Okay.

“I don't know what I think about pop culture.”

I think there's like one. I want to learn though. There's one pop culture. Okay. I want to get it from you guys.

Okay. Let's do the pop culture one. It's really not that serious. I think it. Hi Abby.

And Abby. My name is Liz. I just want to say I love the podcast. And it's my mom. So that you are so relatable.

My question is, what is your health top tier reality TV shows? I am a big reality TV fan. I just love getting other reality shows to watch or shows in general to watch. Thank you so much. Bye.

Oh yeah.

I mean, the serializer more of my wife is basically the only reality TV show watch.

Oh, and love on this spectrum. Love what you love that one. You love that one. I do love that one. They need to make more.

They're coming out of your season. Oh. I know. Yeah. Season four.

Okay. Could I have my soap box? Let's go. Yeah. I was going to say these games.

I'm like, is that even reality TV? Do it like it. I just don't know. These games.

“I had there is a question way deep in the voicemail somewhere that I read across it.”

I didn't save it, but someone's like, brother and law was on Beast Games and they said what number he was and they wanted to know you were pretty. Wait a minute. I want to say I followed one of the. I went to the page of one of the Beast Games contestants.

August because my son's name is August. So I just immediately latch on to him. Yeah. And he made it very far. And his character arc was great.

Wait. Did you watch it? Yeah. I didn't watch it.

He follows, okay, he follows us.

And his wife follows all three of us. He's always here. So shout out to August White. Wait August White. They make really cute content about it.

Because he's the one who got the Starbucks for life. I feel like I'm talking with us like that. His wife is going to love that. And they make videos of like doing getting Starbucks orders. Like that.

That's okay. I want to follow him. They're so sweet. I found it. Haley's my name is.

Or how about I just play it? This might not be her. But this is someone from Beast Games. Hey, ladies, my name is Kylie. And I'm from Lincoln, Nebraska.

My brother and I. It's player 172 in Beast Games, season two. And I want to hear all about your take on how it ended. Who you were rooting for. And maybe any favorite moments from this season.

So I'd like you guys. And I love love love this podcast. It's August. I loved August. Oh my gosh.

He was he seemed really genuine. August. He was he was a good competitor. I know. Yeah, he was.

And he knew. He was like, he's like, no, I think he didn't. He didn't. Like, he didn't even expose her. No, he didn't.

Wait, when at the end. When he knew that she had sold the coin. Yeah. I didn't think he was going to make it through. No one knows what we're talking about.

Yeah, I'm sorry.

“You guys, you have to watch these games.”

But as he said, man, I was a big fan of you. He follows us. Or he's my follows us. I think so. Gosh.

We were making a big sister in law. Because this is a sister in law calling. I was star-shock. I was like, no way. I was happy with the winner.

Yeah, I thought either of the two finalists. I was like, I would love for them to win. But when he got all your shout, I was like, oh, me, the loyalty really. I know. I know.

And also you got one shot at that. Like if he would have missed. I've been crazy. Everyone needs to go watch Beast games. So we can talk more about it.

Seriously. Okay. My turn to. Okay. My TV reality show.

Your reality show. Your reality show. TV. Currently. Obviously.

Secret lives of Mormon wives. And then we also have survivor. Does that count as reality TV? Yeah. I don't know.

But survivors on right now. So watching survivor. Love Island. Of course. All the love islands.

UK is great too. USA is getting there. Any watches them all. Oh, I'm not even halfway through. And then.

Oh, what am I? Okay. What I'm not watching. But I really am interested right now is age of attraction. I've watched all of it.

That loved it. Okay. I might have to. I might have to hop in and watch that one. And then.

That's. Oh. Housewives. Salt Lake City. Perfect.

Great. Always Salt Lake City. If you're going to start. And. Summer house is great.

If you're looking.

You and my older sister would love to talk about this.

And then. Okay. Show's in general. Do you do something while you watch? You just sat.

No. I do stuff. Yeah. It's good background. It's good background.

I can see that. Um. Currently we're watching the pit. Great show. If you're into madam.

No. It's great. And then what else are we watching right now. Oh, we're watching Barry, which is. A murder show.

Oh. But it's like a. It's like. A sitcom murder. Oh, show.

Okay. It's not like about a real murder. It's just like a TV show. Okay. I don't know what to watch.

I'm just going to come to you.

Oh, I got plenty of recommendations. Okay. Okay. That's a good routine. That's a good routine.

Hey, can I just say that if I was ABC, I'd be absolutely ticked to Hulu for airing season four. I was a Mormon wife before the battle at.

“Because I think Hulu did ABC dirty a little bit.”

Are they not the same? Are they the same? Disney owns Hulu and owns ABC. Wow. It's so interesting.

Just the whole time that that's season four. So you could last my wife was airing. I was like, I feel like the bachelor has to be so annoyed with. Yeah, I finished sharing. I'm in the middle of season four.

Okay. I like had been rush watching it. So I could skip my opinions. And. Woo hoo.

I mean, you just need to start watching. So he's talking about it. I'm like his band. He's going to be on was Ben going to come and show up on. I'm more scared than that.

And Dakota. I know. It's just watching. I'm more scared than ever. I understand that.

So I'm not going on. I know. So much. Okay. Let me get off my soapbox.

I mean, books. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

Thank you. Hi. My name is Darren. I've been watching Abby specifically since the beginning of the unplanned podcast in Hawaii. And I'm so happy that you guys have started another podcast.

Now my question is just a silly fun question.

“Would you rather have a permanent clown known or permanent clown shoes?”

I just thought I'd send out this question just to lighten things up for you guys. Thanks. Bye. Easy nose. Why?

Because I don't want to have the deal with walking around in those. Just keep walking. Just keep walking. Just keep walking. Just keep walking.

I just thought I'd send out this question just to lighten things up for you guys. Thanks. Bye. Easy nose. Why?

Because I don't want to have the deal with walking around in those. I already got a clown nose. Yeah. It's not that bad. I'll go clown nose.

I'll go clown nose. I agree. Even though it'd be in every picture every video, I think you just learned to love it. It could be your train. The right song.

Like, go out the first mark. What do you mean? Remember that whole internet drama? The score? Oh yeah.

The star. Yeah. The fake score. I don't remember it. But because on those trademark is iconic.

I mean it can't be that bad. No. He said, would you rather have no arms or no legs? And I said, oh, easy. No legs.

Because I'd have to go for runs.

“And then he was like, I think you need to think about that a little longer.”

Because think about how hard it would be. Wait, I'm sorry. I said this backwards. I can go for a run. No legs.

I said, easy. No arms. Because I have to go for runs. And he was like, really?

So I don't want to have to always wipe your butt.

I know you're like, I think it would be much harder to have no arms. And then I thought about it for a while. And I was like, I made a mistake. I take it back. I really have no legs.

[LAUGHTER] So hi, my name is Alexis. What is something that you believe in strong enough that you would put it on your car? For example, I'm driving by a car. And it has two movies saying three the nickel.

So obviously, like, pro breastfeeding those kind of things. But what is something that you feel strong enough that you would put a sticker on your car for everyone else to know? [LAUGHTER] I think about that a lot. When I came in here one day and I was like, what is the line with bumper stickers?

Because this man had a full naked woman bumper sticker on his car. And I was like, no. That's what they wanted to know about. Because this is a hot take in a hard judgment. But I do believe that if someone has multiple bumper stickers,

they're probably not mentally stable. I just don't think we'd be good for anything to say. But I just am kind of like, what would you put on your car? Or by that one, if you hunk at me, I will cry. [LAUGHTER]

I should have that on there. You know what? You know what? She's not moving. She might be distracted.

Oh, I don't want her to cry. She'll figure out eventually. I think you might get hunked at more. Because you'll be like, let's ruin her. I don't want to ruin her.

I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her.

I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her. I don't want to ruin her.

I think I think it's a joke. I'm too sensitive for honking. I hate honking. I don't do it to people. I don't want people to do it to me.

Because everyone here is just hand on the board.

Oh, my gosh. They do honking. I got flipped off. Is it flipped or flipped? I think it's both flipped.

Flip. Flip. I say flipped sometimes. I interchange them. I say both flipped and flipped.

They flipped me off. I'll go window for a long time. And I was like, it's still going. It's still going. I, and I still can't.

And then you cried. And then I cried. No, I don't actually cry, but I just get so distraught. Distraught about it. Can't stop thinking about it.

Could be accidentally parked at someone. No. Oh, I did not accidentally. I did not know how it happened. I said, I felt so bad.

I was like, I'm not going to put it. I'm not going to put it. I'm not going to put it. I'm not going to put it. I'm not going to put it.

I'm not going to put it. I'm sorry and they're not going to give me a little love to happen. I'm going to go, "Honk, hey, a little wave, like a nice one." And then you don't think someone is trying to hit my car. I'm going to lay on the horn. Caleb used to not hawk people when they would do reckless things and I'm like, "Just don't do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it." No, I'm like, "I'm going to do it immediately." I'm guessing.

“I'm sorry. You didn't see your bumper slip. I would not have ever have a bumper sticker. The thing I believe you can avoid the question like that, she said, "If there was anything, I would have used to strongly believe."”

Oh, no, my husband. Oh, I put that on there. Like, I'm like, "Okay, I wouldn't put a faith one because then if I drive badly, I don't want to throw a flag poorly on my car." It doesn't reflect right as the one to reflect Jesus. I don't want them to know that I have children, because I don't want them to know that I'm a woman. Honestly, it's just by my car. So I'm like, "Well, if you say I love my husband, well." Then that telling them I'm a woman. There is a bumper sticker in my neighbor's woman. There's a bumper sticker that I greatly appreciate.

Actually, my neighbor has it says, "I heart my cochlear implant." And I'm like, "What a great bumper sticker because then people know that she's hard of hearing." I've seen some like that where there's like, there's a disabled child on board that is a great bumper sticker. It's a great bumper sticker. There's an accident. Those are also marquals. Yeah, first to know. We know those are good. Those are good. I'm distracted with my kids in the backseat and I don't go right when the light turns red. People can just, what if your sticker says, "Sorry, I'm distracted."

No, kids it. Sorry, it's goldfish underneath the car seat. And it's really important. Hi, Abby's and Abby. I wanted to know what you guys could be doing for your job class careers if you couldn't do content creation.

Last business owning, flash podcasts, or being a teacher. Coming from a fellow, always homey. I love the podcast. Bye!

So many ideas. I would love to be someone's personal chef. I think I would like, I love everything about it. I love going to the grocery store, getting groceries. I like meal planning. I like, I want to just make their food and then leave. I felt like that would be so fun. Prep it, put in the fridge for them. Someone else's kitchen too. There's something about cooking. That sounds fun. That does. It's probably going to be a nice kitchen for me. Looking for me. I'm just kidding. Yeah, hey, baby. So I'd be about me really fun. Also, I feel like I might be a real estate agent one day.

“Oh, one day, you're going to come back to that and be a real estate agent?”

Yeah, maybe when I'm like 30. I always thought like that would be so fun. And then we bought our house and I was like, "That would be so bad at this job." Why? Because the back, all the communication behind the scenes. Oh, it's a lot of back and forth and paperwork. How old are you? It's actually three. So, I don't know. You said by the time we 30, you want to be a real estate agent? Maybe in my 40s. Okay, fine. I have a lot of life to live, y'all. I'm not going to do this forever. Okay.

I love it. Just be me here. I mean, I'll be, I don't know. So, me. I also don't be here. Hey, I'll be. Abby's on another. We do another real estate agent call. Mormon wives, where we peed Abby and she's not there. Like they do what's that means. It'll be this. Abby refused to be in her bed. She's showing a house. Yeah. That would be actually as another child. I love it. I also just love, like, I love how shopping. Yes, it is so fun. What would you do?

I used to think that it would be really fun to be like an on carpet correspondent for E News or like a carpet interviewer of some sorts. I might someone like that in Rhode Island really. I don't even know if I'd be good at it. I just think it'd be fun. You would be good or like on QVC because I used to do that for Bull all the time.

“Like I do all my trial and videos and like describe the project until the close. I think it would be so fun to be a QVC host.”

That's fun. Yeah. I've been burn boot camp trainer. That's a good one, Abby. How would you do that? Yeah, I think that's it. I don't want to say at this point or like with this under my belt too. I'd probably be good working for like an agency or something like I feel like I'd be. If I needed a backup plan, I could work for an agency. I mean, you're the most organized person I've ever met. So I'm so good at communication. You could thrive at most jobs. I think. So kind of. I'm going to put that on my master's degree. Not my

person out. Yes. Come on. I was just wondering what your first job, the word or what you did to make money

Oh, I'm so tired. Thank you. Just go through all your jobs. Run 'em down. Me? Yeah. There's not so many. Yeah. I have a lot of work experience. I am not high-rabble. I was trying to, I'm sorry. That's a force like I can not get hired anywhere. Yeah. No, I do have my degree. But I was a babysitter and a nanny and a tutor and a substitute teacher. And I worked at a cocktail lounge and a pizza server. What else did I do? And then a TikTok or a while. I'm still in school.

“So we started social media while we were still in college. So that's why I never had like a”

being a substitute teacher is the most big girl job I ever had. Mm-hmm. And that's still just like temporary work. You know what I mean? Yeah. My first job was my senior year of high school.

I never had jobs in high school because I always played volleyball. And so it was hard to find

jobs and you do like a competitive sport. So my senior year of high school, I got a job at the Ralph Lauren Pollow outlet. And then I worked at a boutique in St. Charles called Moss boutique for a couple of years, which I loved working there. After that, I worked, I actually started a bull my business that I had for five years while that was running like starting up. I worked at Lulemon and I worked at top golf. There we go. A lot of retail in there. So much retail because that's what

I wanted to do. I wanted to have my own store. So I was like I want to get as much retail experience as I can get. So I worked all those jobs while I was preparing to start bull and then when I had bull. And then why we wanted to become an influencer? Like for me, it was just kind of a natural progression. After we closed the business, you and Matt had me on unplanned a lot. It's like you guys shared a lot about the business, love about me. And just naturally helped me kind of start

a following. And then I also, I mean, I did it every day when I had my clothing store. And so I was very used to like filming and creating content and talking on stories. And so it's kind of just a

“natural progression to continue doing that just from a business to my personal. So I honestly didn't”

plan for it to happen. I just, I didn't have a job. Oh, oh, you hired me for a little bit after bull. And I was a group in Danny for like two months. There we go. Yeah. So I was just in that

progression. I was like, I think this just makes the most sense. I always say I got into this by proxy.

I feel like with like Matt had the vision for social media and like had the passion and I was just in it. And then it just kind of became like a really cool opportunity that I was like, well, I'm going to make the most of this and enjoy it for as long as we can. And I'm shocked. It's been this long honestly. We really think about it. Time flies. Time flies. You're like, oh, it's been four years. Crazy. But it had to be six years. Yeah. It's so insane.

For I asked this, but what was the first time you guys met where when in with awkward or like even when the person heard about you? Like, what were your first impressions? I feel like I'd like let's go in the area of first times you heard about each other. Like, do you remember the first time like you heard about, well, you probably heard about Abby, because she was dating that time of life. It's

“such a blur. So it was like 10 years ago. You remember so long ago. I just, I think we maybe talked about”

this in the first episode, but I just thought we were thinking Abby was really quiet. And yeah, you're

very quiet. You just didn't talk much. And you just kind of stepped by Matt. And we were never,

like we'd be around each other occasionally at like a family dinner or, you know, it was always short and quick. But yeah, for a couple of years, there just wasn't a ton of interaction. Yeah. It was like we were both in the room. Probably weren't really interacting with each other. Yeah. Why are we like that? I don't have many memories of this. I just remember thinking that you were really cool and like really, really comfortable with the family. And I was not.

And so I was like, intimidated. I was like, she's so, she's a better and here. I mean, I take better and yeah, because I think we had been dating like two years at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely comfortable with this one. I remember also you guys were, you weren't in college already. So I feel like we would only see each other like at holidays. There's already a lot of other people around. I don't remember adding, I just remember hearing that

I don't even think it was Blake who told me that he was like, I just didn't a girl. Like it were got around church. And then, like, oh, my brother's into somebody. Yeah, I was like, Blake, you want to fill in your sister. And so I just remember, I feel like there was one time. Did we share a hammock at, we were fall retreat or something? We got it. We had three hammocks. I know I was in one. I remember Matt being in one next to me. And you were probably in that one too.

thing now. But I had never talked in before. What was the first time that we talked?

That was it then? Probably would have been fall retreat. But I don't even really remember talking

“to you that much. I think I was scared of you. What was your first impression of Matt?”

I thought he was a cool guy. Like, I thought he was cool in the popular guy. Like, he was tall. So then that, like, adds another effect to it as well. Yeah. Um, yeah, I just thought he was probably cool. I have me. I'm trying to think. I love how like you were friends with everyone. Like, you were just like so fun and happy. And that was cool. I'm like, when was the first? I think the first time I met was at Griffin's Gymfield. And I just remember, Mattie,

I remember, I followed you, I think, before on Instagram. And every you're really into fitness at the time. Like, you always go into the gym at most day. And I was like, she's so cool. She's so fit. And you came in town. And I remember just having a lot of fun talking to you. I was like, I was wondering, I'm like, when did we first meet? Because it's weird to think that we didn't

know each other. I know we're like, Abby. I know I just never we never met in Missouri. No,

but I remember like, by stuff. I was like, I'm going to buy stuff from bowl. Yeah. I still have stuff. I'm like, I just threw away something. So I was like, oh, I actually am mad about it. No, I'm just kidding. I told a couple take talks. So yeah, I was like, I was intimidated by you just because I was like, she's so cool and older than me. And I was here so much. Yeah, I was 25. I was probably 21 at the time. Yeah, I was like,

you're older than me. You probably think of such a little kid. Good. Be afraid of me, ladies. No, I remember adding a head over to my apartment without Blake. And I made you

“mac and cheese because that's the only thing that you like because I'll only thing I knew about you”

is that you were a picky eater. We just so crazy because I'm not that way anymore. But I guess I was a picky eater. But I do remember you inviting me over because I had to stay in Springfield for dance because we had nationals at the beginning of January. So we had rehearsals literally like 40 hours a week of dancing. And you had me over because Blake went home and I'm just here by myself. You got you and Matt had me over and I just sat at your table. I was like, what do I wear?

Like, I was like, I don't know what to do. I went to my boyfriend's sister's apartment. I don't know what to do. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry, but boyfriends are husband's sister. There's no one more intimidating. I feel it. Like, is there any sister who's scary? Fourth. And she probably had me over like December 20th or something like that. I'm like, we've been in the dating for two weeks. So nice. I can't say no, but also. I was like, like, you'll meet a better. He's like, I got it. I'm sorry. He was like,

no, because you know, I like, I usually don't care. That was very nice to do to invite me over. That was really nice. That was so fun. Hey, guys. My name is Haley and I love watching your podcast. My question to you guys is how do you handle friendships with your close friends that don't have kids? In 2025, I struggled a lot with jealousy because I couldn't pick up and do things like they could anymore. It made me mourn and grieve being able to do that. And of course, not this credit

the love that I have for my children, but I just want to your advice on that. Love you guys. Thanks for listening. I think it's okay to miss your old life while still loving and appreciating your new life. Yeah. So I don't think, yeah, I don't think that makes a lot of sense that you would feel a little bit of jealousy sometimes just like the ease of not having as much responsibility.

I don't like that. That's always, that's always, yeah, I'm like, oh, young and free, you know.

It does, it does make your legit friendships different. It does. I didn't feel that way when Caleb and I got married. I married no big deal with single friends or friends that weren't married, no big deal. When we started having kids, I feel like the gap started to increase of things that we had in common. You know, it's just so much harder. Yeah, having things in common. And the schedules too, because it's really like for all I got to go home for like two,

three hours in the middle of every day. And we have stuff to back at like seven. So yeah, we've got to fit in these right windows. And that just makes things logistically difficult.

“Totally. I would say have your friends over your house. Yeah. I think that's what we did too.”

But also just know things are going to be different. And I feel like expecting things to be the same or your friendships be the same is just a little unrealistic. It doesn't mean that you're not good friends. It's just, it just is another factor. That makes it more challenging. And it's a great opportunity to meet new friends too. Totally. Because I mean, get rid of your old friends. But it's a great opportunity to meet new mom friends. I agree.

Hi, guys. Oh, I love your podcast. It's wonderful. I was in all this time. Every time it comes out. But I was just wondering, I'm trying to get a little closer to my sister mall. And I know y'all are all sister malls. And I was just wondering if there was like some kind of activity or something that you would suggest that could help me out. Thanks. Bye. Okay, you're going to do like a double date situation. Oh, perfect. Yeah, I feel like that's always

easy and fun. Like, I think a family game night is always fun. But it's just you, your husband,

you're mad. It's her sister in law. She's married. But it could be her brother. Oh, yeah.

So now I'm thinking what are some fun? Just like girl activities to do. If it's just we're going to be a one on one thing. Go to lunch. Get your nails done. Get coffee. Go shopping. Go on a walk. Going on a walk. I love going on a walk. Especially if you can walk too somewhere and do something. Yeah. It's fun. So fun. I also think just having dinner together is just as the best. Easy way. Get to do it anyway. You got to make dinner anyway. And by the moment, invite him over.

“I think, yeah, just you're so good at this. Just being an included and just always inviting”

her to come into your life or vice versa. Well, maybe not pushing yourself under her life. But including her into your life. And then if it's like reciprocated, then she'll be like, oh, I'll invite her back. And just that repeated time will be really good on your relationship.

Yeah. Go to work out. There's any time there's something that comes up. Yeah. I also saw another

voice mail in here when I was looking through them of someone who doesn't really live close to their sister-in-law. And she I think she even mentioned. She doesn't even have their phone number yet. Or she or their brothers about to get married. And she doesn't have her phone number yet, but she wants to have a good relationship with them. And I think that's another factor if you don't live close. It's like making the most out of that time. But just know it's not going to be the same.

Like it doesn't have to be. Like we weren't as close before I lived here. It was just the way it was. Then I would think almost because there's like this sense of comfort comfort ability with its family. We were almost it's almost like no matter what we're going to spend time together and be together. Then I think if you go to extra mile, then that is like, oh, they really care and like want to be our friend. So like sending them something, something nice in the mail. Like if they have

they're getting married. Like send them a nice gift and a nice note and like something really personalized or if they're having a baby and they're maybe like a nice gift. I don't know, just doing something a little bit extra special to where it's like, oh, this isn't just like the family thing. I want to like actually have a relationship with you. Yeah. It's very important town. Do a one-on-one thing with them instead of just be with the family the whole time. Yeah.

If you taste time, it could be a little bit weird. But if you're making it make out an excuse for it, you know. And but also if they're wedding planning, just see if there's anything you can do to help. I know that's like a big question, but I feel like even just offering it's like, okay, you want to be involved in like an intimate detail. This wedding, not just like a regular wedding guess. That would then carry on, hopefully into the marriage. Yeah. And I would say making efforts

to go to all the things. Like even though it's going to be expensive, like flying for the bachelor party. Yeah, I did. Like try to be a part of everything that you can. Oh, I'm switching two different categories. Okay. What's next? This is kind of just like outliers. So it's just a couple other. This is one more time for one question. Red and red and blue. Hi, guys. I'm a high school. I want to know how you like came out the negativity in the drama of the everyday life,

and just ignore it and go forward. How do you just only think about the joy? I think it's just a strike one. And I just love listening to all. Thank you. What was your name? She didn't say. Okay. Thank you so much for that. That like in a heart single of it. Yeah. So you can just hear the

sadness in your voice. If I can preach for a second. I'm going to preach for a second. I want

“you to remember that like you are chosen. You are loved. You have been bought for a price. You're”

perfectly and wonderfully made. And when for me, when I'm facing hard things, or I'm feeling insecure. Like I just went through a season of feeling insecure. When you're facing negativity, mean voice from the outside, you just have to remember that your identity is not what people say about you. It's about God. It says about you. And if you're not a believer, I think it's just important to like have a just come to like conclusion about who you are and have a firm sense of

identity outside of what others think about you. And so for me, that's my faith. But like I really want to speak that over you because truly that having a sense of there's so much safety and knowing that you're chosen by God. And so yeah, especially in this season of life where like, I'm sure the drama is really hard and girls can be girls and boys and high school and can be so mean. And it just feels like it is your entire world. Just have try to have that perspective of like

you're going to move through high school and you're going to come out and the world is going to go from really narrow to a really, really wide. And you're going to make it through that and like the doors are going to open for you. I think sometimes too like when you're really in the thickest

“and hard you have to have this like eternal perspective or like a perspective past your current”

circumstances. And I know that's really easy to say and hard to practice, but you just have to remind yourself that a lot. Honestly, I have nothing else really to have. That was great advice. It makes me just, it's hard. It's like you can see it on this side. You're like, that was such a small spec of our life, but it felt like for I felt like everything. It was everything for that season.

I don't know where you're at in high school. This could be four years, which feels like such a long time, you know? And so my advice is to just try to find at least one genuine friend and to just have them as like a support. It's really important to have that peer support. I feel like especially like in school. And if you're having trouble finding that, the advice is just to go first and be weird and just, I don't know, maybe just say, like we

get together at lunch and then just just be the first to put yourself out there. And I know that's a really scary thing to do, but I think having friendships really made high school also just like so much more enjoyable. Enjoyable. I fell in so much joy through my friendships. And yeah, Abby, Santa Cruz. Hey, Abby, you guys are awesome. I love the podcast so far. I want to ask a

“question and that is what sacrifices have you made to keep what matters to you, truly at the”

center of your life. Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. What sacrifices have we made to keep what's important to us truly at the center of our life? That's such a kind of a hard question.

Yeah, I feel like I can give one even just starting to work for you guys because I always

expected to work corporate and whenever you guys offered me a job, I was like, okay, this gets me the chance to be with my family, with my daughter, with my family. Again, I just said that. And I think that's something I had to give up of like my, how I just expected my whole life to be to work from home, work with my family instead of building up this big career outside of that. And it took me a little bit to process that on my end. It seems kind of shallow to be like the career versus the family,

even though I'm still working. But I was like really excited about that life of like working in an office, working in a building, working for a big company and shifting that because I knew taking this job opportunity, I'd be able to be with my family more. That's a good one, Abby. I think when I closed my clothing business, making that decision to end bold was like the heart decision ever. But it was one of those things where I was fighting tooth and nail and just

like driving our family into more debt. And so it was one of the things I had to do to like, it was so hard like giving up my dream, I thought like, but I had to, I was pregnant and we were in a lot of debt from it. And so that was just as sacrifice I had to make. And I was the best

“decision I made for sure. But yeah, I'm choosing to close the business. I remember that day,”

I was so vividly when I was like, oh my gosh, I can't keep doing this. What am I doing? I'm like ruining, like there's such a wedge between Caleb and I because this stress of this debt is so scary. And like, I just have to let it go. So that was hard, but that was the best decision.

Never in the long run. It's a hard one. I too never envisioned my life looking like this,

but in a lot of ways, I feel like life has, through a series of decisions, and which I was prioritizing first, like my marriage. And then my marriage plus my kids, my whole family, has like led us to this point. And as long as it feels like the best option for our entire family, like I'm going to consider this the greatest gift of this career option that I never considered originally and never even actually knew existed when I was dreaming up my dream lifestyle. So

like that's just something that's always going to take precedence in my life. And like it'll always be like the greatest thing this job has given me. It's like that flexibility in that time to like work with Matt and have that like get to just drop everything when I want when my kids meet me. So like that's a series of like a lot of little decisions or like I just want like this. I choose this. I choose this and it's not like I just feel so grateful that that's where we've landed now.

“And yeah, I think family, I think all of us have that same drive. And so then we're all”

fun if something's the same. Like how I want to hear related. But yeah, and I feel like that's something that's always adjusting and changing too. And it's hard. This is a good wake-up called question to ask you because I feel like sometimes you make a series of decisions, small decisions, and you wind up somewhere that you didn't ultimately want end up being. And you're like this

is actually in the long run isn't ultimately like the direction I want to go. So it's good to always

ask that question to like zoom out also and be like wait a minute. I thought I was making this decision but I've ended up over here and this is where I was supposed to be. But that's a good question to keep asking. I feel like that's always like a beginning of a year question like you can kind of zoom out and think long term more. That's good. That's great. Okay. You can do it every day. On the other hand and I and on the home. You can do it when it's

Then it's just like that. And then you can also do it on your own credit on your own. Augs morning. Codied. I'm Fuff. Online. Marriage and Zady. Okay. She's not too busy. Hi. So I'm planning and wedding in July. I'm so excited. What is the year on or two things that you chose to do at your wedding that you regret doing for that you recommend doing for other people? Thank you. I thought I thought I did think back. Two things that you're regret doing and or something that you're

regret doing. Something you recommend doing at your wedding. I don't know. I do. I do. I do. I do. I genuinely, this is so cheesy. I don't have any regrets for my wedding. I don't have any regrets

my wedding either. It's amazing. I always say if it didn't the day you are married to the person

who has been the rest of your life with. And I just don't think you could really fairly look back. I'm like, oh, well, the dinner was a little cold. Like you're just not going to think about those things. And so I would say just the whole day just, I mean, my greatest goal and my, like, I kept trying to push myself to be like, be present because I heard so many people be like, it's a blur. Like, I just don't remember anything. I'm like, oh, my gosh, I just want to remember

everything is you get this once. Like, I just want to be present. So I just was like, that was my base for I was like, just letting me have presence of mine the whole day. And I feel like I had that and like had such a great freaking time. It was amazing. It actually Caleb pulled us a side at our wedding. I'll remember this. He's like, look, everyone here, they all came to support you guys. And I was like, that was a really good reminder. So maybe build in in your schedule like a time to pause and just look at

literally everyone that made a sacrifice to attend your union. Like, that's really special. And that is, it's a very humbling, like, also when you think about the gravity of that, like, these people witness you make your vows to your spouse for till death through you part. Like that, it like that,

“gravity, I think that we can't lose sight of that amongst all the flowers and the food in the party.”

Oh, that's my best advice. Have a big dance party. We had a really sweaty fun dance party. It was so fun. It was really the ad you wanted to have. It was not there. That's so crazy. Yeah, that was everyone was sweating through their service. It was like, was it? Blake, I don't think you hit the dance for one. Actually, Kildman, I were on the dance floor. Actually, living it all. Oh, yeah, that was so fun. You're

running was so fun. Oh, I felt like you're winning, but also my winning. Oh, yeah. Also at my wedding for my father-daughter dance, I also had both my grandpa's who have since lost. And so I look back at that video in that moment as like so special. And I don't know what I just like was so close my grandpa's and I love them so much. So like now I'm like the fact that they were both there. And I just didn't know how little I had left with them that we have that moment. And especially

knowing my dad and my grandpa's, that was a big sacrifice for them to dance publicly in front of all the wedding guests with me. And I just looked back at like they did, they made themselves so uncomfortable to have that special moment with me. And they forgot everyone else just for me for that moment. It was really sweet. It was just the way you looked tonight. My friend's not sure it was so sweet.

“So yeah, I think just make the most of those personal moments with the people there because it's”

so easy to think like I'm the bride. Like don't don't be the bride. It's just not about you. Like I know that everything in the wedding industry is saying it's like all about you that day. It's just not the case. No. Like there's a lot of people make sacrifices for you and your spouse and ultimately it is about your marriage and the spouse that you're making together in the rest is extra. So we don't have to look at that as like that was such I can't believe they

were late with it. Right. With the, I don't know. The DJ was late. So not a big deal. Oh really. Yeah. That's great advice, I mean. Did you know that I got cold feet on a wedding day? On the day of Abigail. I got out of rehearsal. I got a cold feet. And I think you know what,

here's my advice. And here's what I regret. I didn't process a single emotion beforehand.

It's so on that morning of the whole day, the build up is so crazy because Caleb also we're not seeing each other until we walked on the aisle. And I just remember like we were getting ready and I went having fun and I'm sitting like, "Huh." And then we get on the bus. It was like, "Dance isn't singing in music." And I just started telling me and I had this moment where I go, "Oh my gosh, I'm driving in my freaking wedding." And I just started to like have an internal

“panic attack. That has to happen honestly. I think happens a lot. But then I just kind of got quiet”

and I tried holding it again. And then the minute we got to the venue everyone was like, "Have you what's wrong, I just go, "I can't believe we're getting married today." And I just started

to bust it. I'll cry. Great. And after that, I felt amazing. It was like I just need to release

the emotion. But on the bus I did text Caleb and I said, "I can't do this." Oh my gosh, happy. He's probably, he's like, "Hey, I'm gonna respond to it." She's not just kidding. I was

And he just said, "Ha ha ha." It's not that crazy. I mean, that is crazy. I don't even like that.

“I know. I just started to panic. I was like, "I can't believe I'm getting married today."”

So, I would say pre think about every emotion, like, and visualize the day. Because I just didn't, I didn't have any, I was like the first of my friends to get married. I just had no context of the day. So funny. I forgot my wedding dress at my wedding. Yeah. Where? Uh, at home.

Oh my gosh, that's a dress shop. I never picked it up. Oh my gosh. Yeah, no big deal. I was in a small town.

It was my wife. I didn't have the wedding certificate, right? But you can drop home. Oh, we don't have a wedding certificate. I'm not surprised by the details of the story. I was glad you know that she was here. I was like, "You guys married a certificate?" You're like, "What is that?" I didn't sign it that day. I've had it before I, I'm y'all been dance for. Yeah, they were like, "I'm happy to stay focused." I love it. But yeah, my biggest advice too

is to wait to see each other before you walked on the aisle. Oh yeah, I think that's a given. It was the most amazing and credible experience ever, gained to see each other for the feel. They opened the doors and I made eyes with Caleb and I just was like, "I cried the whole ceremony." There wasn't a moment in which I stopped crying. It was so incredible. Calth said, "It's the first, it's like, what do you pick shirts like when in heaven?"

Like the doors open, you know what it's like seeing your bride and it's like, "Oh, it's just so cool." I'll go back and do it again. Do I know? Do I know? Do I know? Do I know? Do I know? I just get to... Red wedding renewal? You have the same anniversary since the beginning. But let's just do a destination wedding

now renewal. But I'm not sick of it. Oh, God. Let's do it. Let's do it. Always healthy. They're all invited.

“I actually do regrets for my wedding. I just want to show it. That's why I want to share.”

I don't think anything but I actually do have something to tell it. No problem. This is a title. It will make me cry. But the first one is I didn't do a wedding video because of the cost and I think the cost would have been worth it. I think now I was like, "When am I ever going to watch that?" And now I'm like, "I wish I could watch it." So first regret. Second regret. I was really stressed. Just like, because I'm a planner and so I'm not in charge. I'm my wedding planners in charge.

But I'm stressed about it. And so, like, right before I'm going on the aisle, my mom wanted to have him and it with me. And I was so stressed about everything going right that I just, like, I didn't take that time with her. I was really stressed. And I was like, "Let's go. Mom, let's go. Mom, let's go. Mom, let's go. Mom and she's like, "We're trying that. She's trying to have a special moment with me." And I was just like, "Not focus." And I apologize to her about it afterwards.

I was just like, taking that moment to have a special moment with my mom. Because I was also wearing her wedding shoes going down the aisle, so she won't have a moment with me. And I just wasn't present for it at all. And so, I think, just be chill. That's my recommendation. That's a long one of you, just yeah. Thanks for sharing. And that's going to be nice for people. Especially if you're a type A person like me, just like, "Yeah, yeah, it'll be fine.

It'll be fine." If you're late going down the aisle, no one cares. They're waiting for you.

“I, you have to hire the people in the place. You have to put the people in place. And if you can't”

afford to hire someone, have your friends do it. I have my friend do it. And I, and I, and I she didn't make me pay, but I paid her. And now she's a wedding planner. And she was great. Yeah. And there was wonderful. But hi, I'm his, my name is Camden. I learned Oklahoma. Me and my fiance are getting ready to get married in the beginning of May. And we've been together since we were 17. High school free arts also grew up in the same hometown. We're both between 21 when we get married.

Just wanted some advice for wedding night and how to prepare because we also have both waited to be internet with each other until after we're married. Thanks. Love you, guys. Listen, one more thing. You guys so much. You know why? My favorite topic. I was kidding. We've been waiting. There's another one just like this, too. So let me, that's kind of in the similar realm. And then you can talk about both of that. Hey girls, my name is Aubrey. I just wanted to say

that I love the podcast and everything that you'll do. I'm going today just for advice. On boundaries and waiting till marriage. I get married in less than six months. I'm so excited. But also the struggle is real. I'm getting married to the high school sweetheart. So that's too for exciting. So any advice you'll have on that that you'll did with your cousins. And I'll say if you're having advice about getting married so young, because we're getting married at 21. So any

advice and 50 have for that would be so grateful. And I just hope you'll have a blessed advice. Well, girlies, congratulations. That's so fun. The drought is coming to an end. Oh my gosh, I have so many

things to say. You kick it off. Okay, well let's talk about the first question first. Yes.

Okay, the wedding night. Yes. Your role is going to be 21. I would say only have one drink of alcohol. Because you want to be fully present. I have spright. I was actually wondering. I wasn't just a don't drink. Yeah, you don't drink so fully present at your wedding. And for the night.

husband for the first time. So I would say just don't mess around with alcohol.

“Matt and I didn't drink at all at all at all. Yeah, I think I had like a glass of champagne and”

maybe one glass of wine. It was like yeah, you know. No, I just definitely had that. That's actually really good advice. I think I just had one glass of champagne. Because I think, too, it's like you're in the moment and like they're going to give you a lot of drinks just as the bride and groom. Like they're going to offer you a lot. And I just was like I only want one. And then you could be fully present. That's so that's such a good advice. I wouldn't have even thought of that. But

like you waited, especially if you waited, like that is so long. Like let's set ourselves up to remember it. Like let's, yeah. And enjoy it and have this in mind. Okay, bless your next time. And then okay, Caleb, during the day with his groom's men, he slips, snuck away and like decorated the room and did little special things in the room. So I don't know, maybe if that's like a tip to your husband too, like have him sneak away with his guys to go like decorate the room. Because I was like

that's sweet. Carbros petals on the bed to the bed. I was like, oh, baby, also shower before that's going. Because you're going to be sweaty from your dance floor. You're going to be stinky. Take a little shower. And then go to the bed. Just take the shower. You get a shower. You can keep your makeup on and you're here nice. Just watch your bits involved. But what I'm saying is don't do it in the shower. Go do it in the bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Or are you going to do it

in the bed? Yes, we're loving. You're not going to do it. No, give me a shower.

“Take the shower. Exactly. What's your advice for the wedding night?”

Okay, I have to say this. I feel like there is so much messaging that I sew negative towards waiting till the night. It's going to be so awkward. It's going to be so embarrassing and it's going to be terrible. It's not going to work. It's like, that's actually just a lie from saying. I just think that's not true. And at least in our experience, that was just the first thing from the truth. And if anything, it was like, it was very, very, just like wholesome and sweet and

beautiful. And like, there was like, I think at this point, like, there's certainly like excitement about something new. But it's not like you're going to be necessarily nervous because you are with your person. Like there's just that there's so much comfort towards that and like a random one off. Like, there's just so much, so much history, so much relationships. You know they're not like looking for anything other than to like connect with you. So I just think like, and also I'm

the last person to really get great advice on batteries. So I'm just going to say that right now. Like, but we did wait until the day of the wedding. And it was beautifully intimate, special,

wholesome. Never once awkward. Like, we certainly laughed and like, we're experiencing new things

together. But you don't have to like have this, I don't know, expectation of, and I'm not saying that it's going to be the most romantic crazy night of your life. But in a way, well, in a way that doesn't look like the movies. Because it's just so, it's so intimate and special. And it's just, I don't know, I just feel like there's like so many people are like, oh, no, they're what I know it's going to be terrible. Like, so many things, my way towards you are to have to know

what to do the first night. It's not exactly, it's not even about like the big fireworks moments of like sex. It's not about the orgasm. It's about like being intimate together for the first time. And it's just, so I was actually super nervous. And Caleb and I had had sex before, and then stopped having sex for like two years when we became believers. And then pursued. And so I had been there done that with him before. And I was still like, had giddy butterflies. Like,

I was so nervous to be intimate with him again. And so it was so sweet. And I just like back

on that night with just such like a smile in my face. Totally. Yeah, it was just totally. It's amazing.

I was nervous to leave the wedding. I was like nervous. I was like nervous. I was like, it was amazing. That is so, yeah, I just don't believe what people are saying. And I'm not saying it's going to everything. You're going to have to communicate. You're going to say things that you don't even

“expect you're going to have to say. But everyone's just figuring things out. And I think that's what's”

also so special about it. And I don't know totally. Just be present and communicate. And I do think that there is a, it would be good to have a conversation about both of your expectations before the wedding day. That's good. In this area, which they had us do in premarital counseling. Yeah. Because I do think if you guys go in with different expectations, that's a hard place to find out that you're not meeting someone's expectation. Your own expectation isn't being met. So

I would say have a conversation that's pretty detailed about like, and not as like, what's actually going to happen? But like, what? I mean, in a way, yes. I think you should. I think as I do think I hear that a lot. But we're like, oh, I kind of was like thinking, you can build it up a lot in your mind. That's the thing about waiting is that you can build it up in certain ways. And so, just hash that out a little bit beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't have to be perfect.

Okay. But then the second question boundaries. All boundaries. I'm how to like, tips for waiting until marriage. Okay. Like I said, kill, but I went all the way. And then you

didn't lay horizontally together. We didn't make out with tongue. We didn't. We sometimes, it was just handholding because we were too like excited. And it was like, we can't actually kiss. Like just get in the cage. Oh, my gosh, freaking. It was so hard. It was so hard. So I just like, the strict boundaries that you need like, maybe you don't kiss for a couple. We didn't. We went seasons of within our engagement, where we could not kiss each other because it was just like,

you know what I mean? Yeah, like, animals. It has faith. Yeah, a little bit of like, what is wrong with this? So you just had to be really structured with yourself. But I will say, people who listen to this and they're like, these people are crazy. Oh, no. It was so worth it, and beautiful. And having sex, and then not having sex, there was a massive shift in our relationship.

“Like I felt the difference between like actually choosing to wait. And I think some of the big”

things that stick out to me. One, obviously our culture talks a lot about like cheating and fidelity and all these things. It has given me such a confidence in Caleb where it's like, this was literally the most like sexually charged time of our life as our engagement. And we chose to be pure like fight for purity in it and chose to not have sex with each other. That tells me that if Caleb is out of water cooler with a coworker or meet some other lady down the line,

I know that he has self-control and I can trust him to like not let his feelings or emotions lead him to something else. And so one, it gave me like a deep sense of trust in Caleb as a man and him with me as well. Like we have this sense of self-control in this area of sex. Second, I would say just this idea of like we couldn't just rub like go back to sex to communicate with each other or like show each other love. We had to learn how to show each other

“love in other ways, which is really deep in our relationship. It deep into our communication.”

It deepened just, I mean, so many areas of our relationship got so much stronger when we

removed the element of sex. And yeah, I'm sure they're like a million other things, but I just

felt like such a night and day difference in our dating relationship. That's so good Abby. Yeah, it was like, it's one of the biggest things I'm like, okay, I know I got made of this way. You know, it made it just so clear like this list was better for us. So I just know that like the fight for purity is worth it. And also it's like when Caleb tells me that on the most beautiful girl in the world, like I know that he only has eyes for me. And he like means, you know,

so they're just told me benefits to it. And if you haven't chosen to do that, you're not like doomed or anything by any means. Yeah, so don't hear these things and think like, well, you're a great testimony about it. Thank you. Like, that's yeah, that's a testimony. Yeah, that's huge.

“She's born again originally. I think the culture of waiting till marriage is also that everyone's”

boundaries look a little different. Like, like, and I are both not physical touch people. So we can actually sit and bed together and we can hold hands and we can actually kiss and we are not going to have sex. That is not. We were not like that. But everyone's boundaries are a little different and I'm not okay. I'm not to judge people based on bare boundaries. If they're not going doing the same boundaries that you're doing, because the sin and the part that you're trying to

wait for marriage is the actual sex part. You want to create boundaries to help you not get to that point, but everyone's might look a little different. So I have grace for other people. But that I remember not going to say, if you're more on the side of like, okay, this is really

really hard to resist. Like, being with friends is always a great way to be honest. Don't be alone.

Like, I remember we would hang out with like one of my roommates. They're probably just like, they're all the time. It's like, oh, it's just me and Batman. Yeah. We had so many triple dates. So I mean, I'm not like they're with a chap or own, but they're on it. You're not going to cross and that would be great. My deviant. You don't need to call it that, but come on. But it's just essentially that except it's not like my brother, right? My little brother. Right, exactly.

But it was like people that made sense at the time or like our friends or go on a double date. Like, I mean, there's just like so many other ways. But yeah, you're not like hanging out with us. We don't have sex. It's like, hang out. That's because you want to hang out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yes. But that's a proxy. It's the end goal. It was the same. Also having adult mentors that were already married. This is also just like not necessarily, I slid to the area of sex. But like adult

married mentors were very forthcoming about like, what, like, they knew our goals. And they also were very forthcoming about talking about them. Whereas like among our single friends, it was very taboo to like talk about, oh, they wouldn't have sex. But like adult mentors were very, like, like, very, they would bring it up on their own all the time. And so it was very, like, we knew that we had someone to keep us accountable in that area. And they weren't going to like

ignore it necessarily. And so it's not like we were ultimately still making our own decisions

as adults. But just knowing that you had that extra accountability to was helpful. Because when

Yeah. And so that was good too. Yeah. But that is hard to find. But if you can seek it out, that is really true. We did have a slip like before a wedding or we did. And that was really

“sad because I was like, we waited all this time. And then we slipped. But I just remember calling a”

girlfriend and telling her and like talking through it. And it was like, she just prayed over me. And it was just like, it's okay. Like, you're still going to, you know, it's just like they're so much grace. Yeah. And so don't think that I was like perfect. This is we weren't perfect. But it was still worth it. Yeah. Wow. That was fun. You guys like that episode. That was fun for us. It's just so good hearing from you all. Okay. Exciting update. Now we finally have actual details

for you. But we are hosting a live event locally here in Arizona, the Phoenix area. The details

where it's always here in Burn Boot Camp. We've actually done an Abby's camp before and it was so

fun. So we're doing another one. And always here, Burn Boot Camp workout class. And the day is April 11th at 10 a.m. There's no childcare for this class just to heads up. And it's going to be a 45 minute workout. The sign-ups are live today. I'm right now. They're live right now. So if you're interested and you want to go sign up, there is a $15 fee for the class, which is cheaper than they're dropping class. Yeah. So they did as a favorite, which was really sweet. Yeah. They have trainers

to pay. Yeah. Trainers to pay. And also the last time we did this Abby's Boot Camp to be transparent, there's a lot of sign-ups because it was free. Yeah. And then we could have a lot of no shows, a lot of no shows. And people signed up at a state and just took spots. So this is like,

“you're only, we needed a little bit of a buy-in. Sign up if you're going. Yeah. If you want to go,”

we would love to work out with you. We're going to have like a little bit of afterward so we can hang out and talk and meet and greet and pictures and like some snacks and stuff. So it would be really, really fun. How are we really fun? Yeah. We can't wait. And we have a review to read. This review is from Haley. Thanks again to everyone who leaves us a review of writing, liking, subscribing, all the things, sharing. This says moving to AZ. Abby's in Addie. I'm 28. I'm a 29-year-old

mom of two taller boys. We live in that West Virginia. The BV. I can't. I can't tell you guys how much I love listening to this podcast and we're currently so much every time I listen and usually while driving, I feel like I have a mom group session and truly you guys make anyone moved Arizona and be besties. I hate that I'm caught up because it means I have to wait until next week for the next one. Thank you so much for your mom advice, transparency, hilarious moments, but also

the thought provoking ones too. Oh, thank you. It's so meaningful. I'm so crazy. That's just sweet feeling because I feel that way about podcasts. Like dang I have to wait until next week. Right. So the way that people feel about us is so exciting. It's such an honor. Like there's just like there's no other way to describe it. Yeah. Really high honor. Yes, thank you guys so much. If you

guys want to call in and leave a voicemail, we'll say the number again. It's 6024569690. We always close

our episodes with voicemails from you guys. It's the best. So thank you guys for that. And oh, should we do an always hungry recipe? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to share the rice crispy treats I made. This past week. Oh, they were really good. They're Easter themed or spring themed. It has cabbier eggs, white chocolate chips, and obviously marshmallows. They were delicious. So I'll have the link below. Really easy to make and very they went very fast. Oh, they're so good. My recipe is just a

really quick. It's literally five ingredients. I've made it since Matt and I were in college. But it's quick, healthy, and affordable. And you can even make this for a lunch. And I don't normally cook for lunch time because I just don't simply want to spend the time on cooking lunch. But it has Kingwalk, ground turkey, taco seasoning, crushed tomatoes, and corn, and I top it with cheese, and sometimes sour cream or salsa, and then you can scoop the fritos in it. It's just it's so filling

and the whole family likes it. My kids will even eat it, which is saying a lot. And it's just really easy one pot. And yeah, I kind of want that for dinner now. You use ground turkey. You don't

“like ground turkey. I know. I like it in this. Okay. Do you want to know where I got this recipe from?”

Yeah. I think you saw the back of my taco seasoning in college. I was like, oh my goodness. Don't use red kingwalk though. Only use white kingwalk. That's hilarious. I've like college, learning how to cook and call just such a trip. I used red kingwalk and it leaves like a film on the roof of your mouth. Except I think I did it wrong because I don't think that everyone would anyone would ever eat it. I don't know if it even seen red kingwalk at the store. I don't know.

I don't even know what that is, Adi. Our Abby. Sorry. I think you've got it from Aldi. Anyway, thank you so much to everyone who listens and who shares the love and also shout it to our like in-person friends. I listen to this every single week. I'm like, you can hear enough of us. Why would you ever choose to just listen to a talk? I love it. I debrief with my sister every weeks ago. Oh my god. Sweet. I love you guys. I love you guys. I love my friends. I really like friends.

We're just so grateful. It feels like the appropriate time to say that. Just because we listen to all

you guys to talk today. So yeah. Thank you guys and remember we're always here.

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