Armchair Anonymous: Bad Teacher

We have what are your favorite things, but not the right version of it. You love teachers. Oh, I do love these are bad

Oh, I don't like bad You like some bad Okay, well, this is bad teachers. These guys are baddies. Yeah, their baddies are no good We got to get him out of the school. Please enjoy bad teachers Oh, what a great trick for me. Why? Because when we were gonna talk to Joey so I was like

Oh, it's gonna be a boy is trying to play up Monica's love for friends. Wow. I quickly whipped up a whole scenario

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Blossom or the other one connected to blossom

Okay, what about an ocean something with the ocean? You got jovers as the volcano notes a show Oh my goodness, think you're out of that demo for the Australian mermaid. Oh, wait wait wait Is it three something tour? What is oh Think of like the teens on Dawson's Creek. Oh

Well, Dawson's Creek. Oh my god, that's one of my blind spots. It's all right on this week's fact check We read in exhaust of the list of girl names that were boy names

“Oh, we're originally boy names. It's a great list. I only got there about a fifth of it. Okay. Where are you Joey?”

I'm in New Jersey the garden state. Yes, drove here today from Massachusetts just to do this Wait, what you don't have internet Massachusetts? No, we do, but I needed to get back here in time Oh, you were on vacation in Massachusetts. Were you on the cape where you're in Marta's vineyard? No, but close to the cape The South Shore so an ocean town. Oh This is our theme, and you've got a nice savage glow

You've got the sun kissed glow. Okay, Joey. You have a bad teacher story. I do and I preface this to say that Most teachers are awesome because I am one. Oh, so let me set the scene. It was early 2000s and it was my fifth year of teaching and Right at the start of this school year. I was told that I would be orienting a new teacher and that she would have her own classes But we would co-teach one section of eighth grade English together. I would imagine in the teaching game It doesn't get much harder than eighth grade most people think that but this is gonna be my 26th year of teaching

And I teach six seventh and eighth grade like I love middle schoolers. Yes, they're crazy But they're crazy in a good way as opposed to for me little ones who's like noses are running and things like that That's like way more hectic than someone with their hormones all out of whack But so they were telling me that as someone who's in my fifth year that I was the veteran, which was kind of a crazy concept To me, but I'm like, okay, I can do this

But shortly after being told this I didn't feel like I was the veteran because we had these two weeks of teacher meetings in August where it was professional development and I met this person that I was going to be co-teaching with and Immediately she intimidated Many of us including myself. This was a private school in a very liberal city and so we spent a lot of time Sharing out about our strengths and weaknesses and our hopes and fears and all of that and it seemed like

Every time she shared something about her background and experience

“I just kept getting more and more impressed with each thing and I'm like, what can I have to offer this person?”

So first it was she graduated from a very well-known division one university and had been in the honors program

Next it was while she was there. She was the head of the writing center and ran the whole thing while she was a student Next it was she was on the division one volleyball team and it just like kept going on and on and on She was a Vunderkin. She loves division one. Yeah, exactly and I was just kind of like each time Like shriveling back more and more and you know, she's like taller than I am when the students arrived They also were very drawn to her because she had just graduated from college

She was young. She had a distinct sense of style super energetic But then shortly thereafter all of a sudden she started calling in sick Next thing we know she's out because a relative died then a relative was murder. Yeah, sounds like addiction, but continue

Teachers who are like, okay, we should all dress in black one night and go out and like stalk her apartment and see what's really going on It was like a little bit of that background kind of stuff going on That's a black for the murder relative. Oh show some you support Yeah, this was early 2000 obviously we had the internet, but people just weren't googling things as much to try to match up the story or anything like that Needless to say the co-teaching wasn't going very well because her attendance was so spotty

So like I never knew if she was gonna be there and on one particular day

She was late to our co-taught class and you know as a teacher you're not waiting for your Co-teacher to start the class so I kind of just started things off and we weren't even supposed to be doing a joint thing that day I was supposed to be leading something and she was just going to be supporting some of the students in the room When all of a sudden the head of school pops into a deserve and he did this unannounced all the time to different rooms So that wasn't something that was alarming, but I knew I had to start the class even though

She's not there and I don't want to draw attention to that So I just start going over some short lesson on vocabulary that we would encounter in our reading She arrives and jumps right in and just starts writing a bunch of stuff on the other side of the whiteboard

We have a bunch of students who have various learning styles

Maybe someone's ADHD maybe someone else has some auditory processing thing and if you've got like a ton of things going on in the front of the room The ADHD kids loving it and everyone And there are already an eighth grade so there are executive functioning is like out of control anyway And so I'm thinking immediately in my head

“It's like you're the veteran teacher you have to control this like what are you gonna do not only is she up there doing this”

She's jamming things into the corner so all of a sudden I say something like let's pause and get some additional information from Cindy before we go back to the vocabulary Cindy what do you have for us and so she starts going through some sort of a timeline about the Vietnam War Because the book we're reading is set in the Vietnam War, but it's like false information Oh, she's pronouncing things incorrectly and then the cap is like a word. She writes up there very boldly is not a real word Oh my goodness

I think she's almost inspiring. She does everything was such confidence that I start questioning myself and just as I'm trying to figure out what to do She fully turns herself to the board with her back completely to all of us because you have most of the time teachers try to be like at an angle

So you're never not looking at the kids and her thong is fully on display

Oh wait a minute hold out what she's wearing a thong, but her like pants are jacked down 2001 was Yeah, low ride and like the shirt has popped up. That's a pretty big event for an a-threate boy. Oh My gosh, right exactly right, and I'm waiting for one of them because I've seen you know the kids who were clearly focused on something else Or doing something else with their hands and whatever

None of them burst out laughing no one says a word and the head of school is sitting there and so again I'm like I got to do something I have to do something so I immediately say Cindy. Thank you so much

“Can you sit with Charlie while I share some of the vocabulary and make sure that he gets it all down?”

You're also reminding me of a news anchor, or it's like now we're going to go to Betty with the weather No, we're not we're going to go to Mike on the street Something to eventually the class ends and I'm questioning my sanity still I'm the only one seeing this because the head of school just strolls right out of the room without a word to either of us Oh my goodness, and he's a man so maybe it was like he didn't know how to

Interest the situation talk about his employees underwear. Yeah, that's a rough zone Part of it at least like hey, we're going to meet to debrief this, but then it got even better where a few days later She's off-coaching a middle school sports team I think it was basketball and they're headed to play against the school for the death and They arrived at the game and it's well known that we're playing this school for the death

So it's not like that was a surprise the ref who's supposed to work the game Who was someone who was certified in American Sign Language was not an attendance and the substitute ref asks if anyone knows sign language Oh, yes She knows sign language yeah, and this is like in the moment

“So there's no, oh, yeah, I know that language that's never going to come up for something right?”

The ref then asks her to communicate something to an opposing player and she starts making a variety of hands signals That look like a mixture of Tai Chi moves and someone trying to come up with a secret handshake and I'm maybe some light charades Yes, so this kid on the opposing team has no idea what's going on and yet she holds fast to this claim that she's fluent in the language

So then you meet get back to school and we're having this faculty volleyball game where all the kids come to watch and the teachers play each other

“And of course everyone wants her on this team”

Yeah, do you want her she's a division one volleyball player. I can't wait. I mean, this is like in a movie This is next year. Yeah, this is next season and then also like in the movie where of all the sports They're going to have the faculty play the students. It's volleyball Exactly and we did a basketball game wants, you know stuff like that, but people can get injured easily in all of these things So everyone wants her on their team, but after the game starts it becomes apparent that either our expectations of what a division

One volleyball player would look like or either too high or This was another skill that she Liar like her so as she tries to serve the ball or return balls or spike the ball or whatever None of her movements are any better than what any of us who just took middle school gym classes But then she starts inventing moves that don't really work well

But blames her teammates for like why it didn't work the right way and then gives a variety of names to these moves that don't make any sense You're watching someone living in their own reality. Yeah. Yeah, they're like blind. Like kind of You want it. You want it to be CT air munch out. Oh, but it's so good because I sort of believed but didn't believe

“But I question myself. I don't really remember exactly how it fully came to a head if there was like a couple of other things before this”

But one day the dean of faculty who is person that I looked up to on the staff comes to me and he

Just sits down and he's like one of those people that like only says a few words at a time first

He apologized for hiring this person to me and putting me in the situation acknowledged that it turned out some things hadn't been true that we thought we're true And then said, but hey, you know, it's gonna only make a good story one day then before this school year ends She sends out this mass message saying that she's going to need to leave to go take care of a sick relative and won't be in the area anymore Take care of her father who already died. She forgot to say three times before. Yeah, so a few weeks after that a group of us

teachers were all like at a local road race and one of the guys who was faster Is standing there waiting at the finish line for me and he's like you got to go over to the energy drink Ten and so I go over to where they're giving out all the free stuff and who's the person Promoting and giving out coupons for this energy drink, but this teacher and so I again another A lot like not that we thought she really was off to take care of a relative, but

She ended it with that story. Oh, oh in the age of now the internet Could you figure it out if she even was a graduate of college? So I looked her up two days ago because of this and she is on the internet It lists it as her background, but I don't know how you verify that. Could I list that I have been to the moon? Sure, I've been telling people I went to UCLA for like 30 years and everyone believes it. Right, and then probably on the go Wikipedia

That's right. Yeah, and then if it was real. I never went. I know I know

No, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. You have a look on your face if you're really questioning I did go to you

“But yeah, you can claim anything as teachers and anyone who works with the kid you have to get those background checks to make sure that like you haven't been in trouble with the law”

Or there's this thing called past the trash a school isn't supposed to be allowed to like pass a bad teacher to another school And so it's this check-in thing that you have to do it like your last place I mean she could have stolen someone's identity. That's kind of what it sounds like there's a lot going on She's a pathological liar, which is fascinating I would like to know more about that condition people who are pathological

Why do they do it? I have a pretty good friend who while trying to get sober They were a bit of a pathological like they would tell people they had children and stuff when they were talking to someone else who had kids Like yeah, and I've asked this person like what was going on?

They're like I don't know other than in that moment the most important thing is that they like me and want a bond with me and

They said they have kids so it's like this kind of insecurity and you think this will be the thing that makes this other person like you But that's so deep to do a full blown line Yeah, this one is that one hit I'm like well, man, that's a biggie. Do you think if there was a medical emergency and they're like is there anyone trained in this medical technique? Yes, because she did the sign language. I mean that's bonkers What it gives you gave you? Yeah? It is a good story. He was right. It is, but most of us teachers are not like that

Well clearly not your blast. I wish I had you as an eighth grade teacher. Yeah, you'd be fun Well, it was lovely meeting you. I'm thank you for racing back. Thank you, and I just want to say I first started listening to you guys two years ago Because two years ago my mom got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer

Listen to you guys through that and actually two weeks ago tomorrow

“She passed away and I got your message though a couple days later that I was on so it was sort of my first smile that I had”

So I want to thank you for that just to shout out to Hannah who's a former student who Knows this bad teacher Good teachers that I work with now who listen to you guys have their and Dan and Mary Anne oh Mary Anne I love it. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Take care

Chris. Hello you have a gallery wall. I do have a gallery wall. Yes

Really nice. So you have some neon lighting and it's in a squiggly pattern and at first I was like that

Looks like it could be a racetrack, but I don't think it is. No, I was just kind of randomly putting up holes in the wall and it created this Okay, wonderful art and Chris, where are you? I am in Denver, Colorado, but my store takes place in Austin Oh, nice. I was in Denver last weekend for the Savannah bananas. Oh, yes with Kristen. That's right In are you from Austin? I've actually from Knoxville, Tennessee, but I spent about 10 years in Austin. So basically from Austin. How does one leave Austin? I think this story will kind of tell you

Okay, great. This story actually takes place in my junior year of high school So this was back in 2019. I lived in the suburbs of Austin I was in this organization called Deca, which is like a business competition club, and so there's three levels to get to

“International. So you have to make it through the district and then the state competition and Texas”

Obviously, there's a ton of kids that participate in Deca. So in our specific category There was over 250 competitors or teams at the state level. So somehow miraculously me my partners pulled it off

We placed first in the state of Texas

Oh, yeah, how many folks are on your team? There is three of us. I love winners Yes, we placed first in the state of Texas, which was awesome, which meant we were headed to International's in Disney world. So it was a big deal. We had spent the whole school year preparing for this competition We were very excited. It was one of the products moments in my high school career because we put in so much time and effort So a week later

There was about 20 kids from my school going to International's within the organization There's probably 350 of us. There was only nine boys. So there's an odd number of boys traveling and so the advisors Which were our teachers asked us if any of the guys would be willing to groom with guys from another school in the district And so I volunteered because I actually had some friends root band who were at another high school in the district and They were also going to International. So I was like, okay, I'll take one for the team. I'll volunteer for everyone to groom with kids from another school

So the advisors agreed everyone approved. I didn't think twice about it and then about a week before the competition my advisors emailed me asking if I could come to their office to talk to them. And so I didn't think anything of it. I was like sure So I walked in expecting to talk about some sort of travel details or the competition schedule or something about our paper

And instead the very first words out of her mouth when I walked in were are you gay?

What an appropriate question to ask a high school student The fuck is wrong and how big is your penis? Oh right. Oh my god I'm still closeted my friends knew but none of the teachers knew my parents didn't know I was very caught off guard The first thing out of my mouth was what why does this what does this matter? And she told me that if I was gay I wouldn't be allowed to room with my friends from the other school because they could also be gay and we could all potentially have sex together

Oh, they were envisioning a deck of origin Even what about the kids in your own school? They're trying to not facilitate the students having sex with each other No, but he I think it's completely inappropriate that they're as you but also they're not putting boys and girls together

“No, but you would be with the boys in your class and that's what I said”

So I was like what's the difference because no one else was gay except me. Oh, boy In the situation. Oh, it's like why are we signaling out me? Yeah, I thought she was joking up first so I was like okay, so because I might be gay you automatically assume that I'm gonna hook up with my friends and she That's exactly right. Oh, she didn't hide from it. You're in Texas. I said well, can I room with my two friends who are girls? Obviously, I knew the answer was gonna be no, but I wasn't heard to say that so

Then no, I asked why and she says because we can't prove your gay, and I Okay, you're on trial for both not being gay and being gay. This is insane. I said let me get this straight So I can't room with my friends that are boys from the other school in the district because I could potentially be gay

But I can't room with my two friends who are girls from this school because you can't prove I'm gay

And I could potentially come up with this. This is a real catch point too. Look me dead in the eyes and she goes that is exactly right Oh my god, so the plan that all four of the advisors had come up together They were apparently talking about me because I guess someone spilled that I was gay They said that I had to go room with two random boys from another school in the district They weren't gonna tell me who they were until we got there. So I left her office and I was kind of like

Okay, well, I don't really have anyone to talk to about this because I was an out to my parents If I was out to my parents my mom would have gone Absolutely ballistic on the school. I had a couple friends obviously my partners who were in Deca with me. They knew I was gay. So I talked to them about it And we kind of fought back with the teacher and she still was burned with her decision of we are not letting you room with anyone that you know

You could also You don't know I don't understand any of this I think that I kept saying was I was like I could go hook up with this guy in his room if I really wanted And the straight people are definitely hooking up by the way. Yeah. I

Quite the accepted the new room assignments. She ended up telling basically everyone that was going to enter

Nationals with us. So now 15 of these people now know that I'm gay which then spread throughout the organization So then people in the organization knew now people at the other school know and I was just kind of like

“Okay, you've kind of just spilled my secret to everyone from what like what was the point of this girl?”

A letter to you. Yeah, and so the funniest part of all of this is we get to Disney world We're there for the competition. I meet my two new roommates the very first day. Next morning we wake up at 6 a.m. on the dot One of my roommates alarms go off and it's delicate by Taylor Swift I was gonna say

I hope you say hope is a meet you. Oh my god. I asked the kid right then in there. I was like, oh, so are you gay too?

And he was like no, I'm not well three years later. He came out on Instagram and now he is an openly happy gay person But it's funny because it's like her full proof plan Anyone that I potentially could know it's a funny story now. I wrote my college essay about it That's actually like how I came out to my mom and dad

And I was like hey, here's this crazy story that happened to me last you're sorry I could have talked about it

“Oh, well, I'm really sorry that happened, but you are very smiley. I think you're indomitable. Thank you. I appreciate that”

Do you have a couple of shots? Take your time. Her name is Susan. She's my best friend's mom. She actually got me on to armchair anonymous. She's been listening some stay one. She was actually one of the only parents who I had come out to Before my parents and so she knew during this whole entire time this whole entire story going on and she was very much ready to go to war with this teacher as well And then just see my manager because she let me take about an hour and a half off of work today to come film this

Emily Anna Selena and Natasha because those were the four people who were in Deca with me who went to internet They're actually in those pictures. I don't know if you guys got that. Let me see. Also, how do you guys do in our land though? Okay, so we placed in the top 25 which was pretty crazy You are my guy who is this you and your lover. Well, that's me and my boyfriend now. Yeah Chris, what a delight to meet you my friend. It was great meeting you guys. Yeah, thank you so much. I really appreciate special thanks to your manager

Take a little extra like 20 minutes I think there was an internet connection issue Have a great day. Take care. Thank you. I appreciate you guys have a good one. Bye My glue is over. Yeah, hey, glue is lifted. Glam glue. Go away Let my smiles shine today

Hi, can you hear me? Look at that. Oh, what a cute shirt. Okay, why did we pick Abby for a fake name? Okay, wait. Do you want me to start recording now? Yeah, ABR girl. You don't know the rule

“I'm sorry. You got the shirt. You should know the rules. Okay, it's recording. Abby is my mom's name and she is the biggest arm cherry”

She's watching on FaceTime in the corner. I love you. Hi, Abby. Literally, she's been watching arm Chairs since it came out in 2018, which is coincidentally when this takes place by story and when I started middle school So I grew up with you guys and I can't believe I'm on here right now. We're excited to have you the best day So I know from that that you're not the teacher in this story. I am not the teacher. I am the student in this story. Okay Let us have it. Well, apart of the country is this take place in in the Midwest. I'm in my

Universities podcast recording studio. I was going to say I can see the sound deafening background And actually we're gonna like this. I go to school in the Appalachian Mountains. What do you do?

Or just kind of weird, but it's gorgeous up here right now. You probably went there saying Appalachian, but now you know to say Appalachian

“My mom grew up here in the Appalachian Mountains. So it was kind of ingrained in my head. Okay, I was a kid”

wishing in the Kentucky the Virginia or the North Carolina North Carolina. Okay, great. All right, so hit us with this. Okay. So my story takes place starting in middle school and goes all the way through high school. So I was in middle school starting in 2018 and my seventh grade year of middle school is when COVID hit. So that following day after we all left at spring break and the world shut down school looks very different. We had different days where half the school would go to class and the other half would go on a separate day. It was

called A Day and B days. You are with the same five or six people for every single class and it was called like a cohort. And it was just a weird period in general because middle schools such a developmental period in your life and then to have it in COVID when you can't talk to people or see

“people just made it even worse. Kids were assholes. Everyone hated everyone. It sucks. But what came”

from that is connections got really strong because we were in those classes all the time and we were with certain teachers more on certain days. You just naturally kind of latched onto those teachers. So that teacher for pretty much every student in my middle school was a teacher that will call Mr. L. Mr. L was an ELA teacher but he was also the head of the student council. Is ELA emotional

English? Yeah, I thought it was English as a second language. Yeah, yes. What's the English

language arts? Nice. Okay. Good job. You're your graduate. I'm glad you're in college. So with Mr. L, it wasn't, you know, we just had him in class. We were with him before school for student council meetings during school. We did lunch with this teacher after school. We'd have our events.

“We'd get pulled out earlier. Go on field trips and stuff like that. So this was just one of”

those teachers that really shaped who we were as people and especially the student council kids because we were all the goody two shoes and we're all super involved. This was the teacher that we liked and he was our favorite teacher going forever and ever and ever up through high school. And so even after middle school when we would come back or do events, that was the teacher that

we always wanted to talk to. I have TikToks with this teacher. We would post on social media. We

followed him after we graduated. So that's the first half of the story. A few years later my junior of high school towards the end would have been in 2024 and there was rumors going around that Mr. L had passed away. Oh, no. I was texting my friends. We were just hearing this through the rumor mill and we were in like a grieving era because he was that teacher that we all just love so much. My brother at the time was in middle school with him. So my mom got the email with the

big statement saying we're so sad to hear the passing of Mr. L. He was such an integral part of our community. Can I ask what AG was when you were his student? He was a young teacher. So he was probably in his early 30s. Okay, yeah, this is not a 70 year old man. This huge statement came out and after the statement came out, we had to do a mandated program called SOS, which stands for signs of suicide. So Mr. L had killed himself. And that just makes it worse. You know they're sad and

suffering. Yeah, exactly. And I mean, everyone was posting about Mr. L. Everyone was talking about it. It just really shook our community. And I sent you guys a picture of a Facebook post that was

created in his honor. And you know, it just talked about all the incredible things he did for our

schools. He looks cute in that picture. So about a week after the announcement of his passing, these accounts on Instagram started getting really popular called Petophile Patrol. So what these accounts were, were teenagers who basically were doing like the Chris Hanson to catch a pedophile in our hometown. So they would create Tinder profiles, hinge profiles, Instagram, Snapchat, all under the guise of lowering men and sometimes older women to catch them trying to have

sex. Wow, minors. This was in that Manus fear doc. You remember that? That was like the side

and that's all. It's like, A, I want justice for the kids. B, vigilanteism always goes sideways.

That's his effect. Yeah. Okay. All right. So that was happening in your town. Yes. And the people doing this, they were just like delinquent teenagers. They weren't kids, you know, trying to like make a difference and save kids like they just wanted to fucking brawl and get likes and views exactly. So after these accounts started getting popular a video popped up and lo and behold, it was Mr. L on the pedophile patrol Instagram account. Oh, yeah. And this video is brutal. It's in our hometown,

grocery store parking lot. They've got the camera against his car window. They're yelling, screaming, trying to open the door, trying to break the window. Get out here. We're going to beat your ass. You wanted to meet up with little kids. He was in his car looking at the profile and and cremated himself on camera. Oh, they tried to hit his car. There's a moment about halfway

“in the video where you can just see his face. And he realizes that his entire life is just completely”

real. It just ended. Yeah. And this video is passed around. It's got thousands of views. Everybody's talking about it. And people were like, when was this taken? And they responded that it was taken a day before the announcement came out of his car. So he killed himself and resolved himself because he got caught being a pedophile. Oh, my God. I don't know if you heard the episode we had on this. Yeah, we had the experts on about pedophilia. Oh, yeah. The woman who's the

head of the Johns Hopkins basically prevention. It's so upset. It's also fucking upsetting. Obviously,

I hate pedophilia. Yeah. And obviously, no one's picking to be pedophile. And this is the end result. It's all horrible. It's horrible. Oh, no. Was there a funeral for him? There was, but it was planned before the video came out. And once it came out, everything was just wiped off the internet.

“There was never a follow-up. Because I mean, it's not like the school district's going to say anything.”

Yeah. You know, it was all left alleged, but that video is so incriminating. The worst part about this story is when we started talking about it, you know, me and my friends, we thought back like, could this really be? Could he really have done that? And there was a rumor that went around in middle school that he would make out with kids in his closet. And we all just brush it off, Laf Ha Ha Ha. But now thinking back, it's just like, oh, shit. My God. Oh, even worse. Also gratitude if you're not

afflicted with this. I mean, it's even worse to think my little brother was in his class at the time. And that's like the group that he was looking at. It's just so itchy. I hate it. It is. So none of you are your friends experienced, obviously, anything. Well, it sounds like he liked boys. Sounds like he liked boys. Yeah. It's where you can say you're saved by people. Very rare, but in this case. That's some. Well, I hate to say this, but you know,

that expert was saying, like, so many of these cases are people that are, look, he could have been a pedophile day one and got this job specifically to groom people and he's a predator. That's one version. But we learned there's also another version where it's like, otherwise people who don't have that are in a situation that can be situational. It's like someone who has a stepchild and it sounds like this feels a little more intentionally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's making out with kids in the

closet. Yeah. But she was saying there can be teachers who are like getting all this attention from somebody. They're feeling a certain way. And that gets confusing. How much education needs to be around like, hey, even if you haven't had a history of pedophilia, people are susceptible to this.

“That's what I'm trying to point out. But this doesn't feel like it doesn't. But that is true. That is a”

thing. Yep. Oh, boy. Oh, man. Well, look, every school, you know, it's funny. It's talking to my children. And it said, no, I'm talking to you. Look at my children. Okay. That I have for any of them. And I wiped our butt on our gym teachers by focal glasses. We hate it. Um, and we did that. And Monica was really, really mad. But you should know, this man was fired when we were in 11th grade for this for a while. I think it's an NGO. He's like, Ben, she's been

helping that we like our butt on his glasses. Yeah. Good thing you do. Look, you got to find a little bit of humor in this darkness. Well, because any of pink I and he probably couldn't go out. No, no, no, no, I hope we got pink guy. But I don't think we ever successfully put his glasses on. And then he

always wear a white t-shirt. And then he would wipe his glasses off on the white t-shirt and I would be

ruining his shirt. But you didn't know he was of had a file. We had bad vibes about him who

“weren't just randomly doing that. No, there was cause. Oh, boy. Okay. I guess I'm just bad at”

those points in the parking lot. Oh, yeah. We have to deal with a lot. Yeah, we do. We have to process a lot of this one. Abby, you're such a well-spoken great storyteller. I don't know what you're majoring in. You have some oral dexterity. I hope you doubled down on it. I totally do. I just talk my professor's ears off all the good good good. I have to shout out my professor because he's letting me skip class to do this because he's an armchair as well. So shout out to Dr.

Shomper. Wait, we Dr. Chomper? Shomper. I want him to be a dental instructor. Dr. Chomper. Okay, Dr. Shomper. Do you mind if I? Do you mind if I? Okay. I'm on my way. Yes, of course. Let us say hi. Hi, Abby. Hey, guys. Oh, she's so cute. She is a magic shirt. Oh, you guys. She does. Oh, I love it. You guys are so sweet. We love you guys. We love you back. Yeah, both of you. All right, take care. All right, bye. Bye. Bye. Oh, what is your shirt say? It's Queens of the Stone Age. Rob, are you hard as a rock back there? Love Queens of the Stone Age.

I love them. I like this. Where are you? I'm going to be late because he will get me really quick. The base so far on this, this story better involved murder. Oh, it doesn't. I'm fortunate. So vague. What part of the country, a zone? Northeast. And are you currently residing where you are born or have you relocated? I'm still in the Northeast and I go to school in the Northeast. Okay, you're born in the Northeast. Yes. Okay, wonderful. So you have a bad teacher story. I do. This was about

four years ago. I had transferred out of my regular public high school in the second semester of

my sophomore year into this charter school. So it was a little weird. It was dedicated for the arts, which was super fun, super cool. And a lot of students had some experiences to me, where any chancellor out because their other school just wasn't working for them. Very, very, very large population of the students were queer and experienced a lot of bullying at their old school. And at this new school, it was great. Obviously, they had regular classes that I had to take. I was

placed into a biology class. And my teacher, I'm just going to call Mr. Teacher because he will get me in assuming was kind of a selling point for the school because he went to this pretty prestigious undergrad and he was a doctor. However, he was a doctor in natural path like medicine,

“which is very important. And also, I think we're playing a little fast and let you get a doctor.”

Can you get an MD from a university? I think it's called like an MD or something, but they were very insistent that he was a doctor. Okay, just hadn't taken the mcat or done a residence or even probably even got a PhD. So not even a doctor it. It was the kind of thing where

he'd be on the first page of the website. He was a selling point for the school because it's like,

wow, look at the doctor we have working here. Originally, I thought he seemed kind of cool because he was this middle-aged guy and you're super accepting and very open and created this wonderful environment for all these queer kids and he provided a lot of hygiene products and little snacks and food you could just take in a question's asked and I thought that was pretty neat. However, as I was in his class more and more I kind of started to see through this front yet. Can I ask quickly

what the hygiene products were? Like pads, tampons, births, control option, deodorant. He's a minis CVS. Pretty much. He had rice packets. He could microwave. Oh, wow, wow. Okay. Yeah, it really was like a little store. So a lot of students had issues at home and there was kind of this following around this teacher where they all referred to him as a father figure. Oh no. And it was just weird. It was almost called tea and he knew that referring to him as a father was happening and he just kind of

let it happen. He obviously had his own views on how I'm just going to call it like evidence based medicine. It's going to go a legitimate medicine. He had a peer refuge science. And it would come through a lot with personal conversations with students and his actual class. He would

“tell students individually to talk to their doctor and be like, you need to tell your doctor”

to stop prescribing you medication. There was this one specific conversation I overheard where he

were on anti-depressants and he would say, don't take them. And at the beginning of every class,

“60 minutes of short class, he would take attendance and attendance was an event. It was 20 minutes”

minimum because he would ask people individually how they were. He would be like, Monica, how are you today? This would kind of open the floor for students to essentially trauma down. It turned into this therapy session where he would suggest things and it just was a very long event every single day. And he then after attendance would often propose a hypothetical situation or a hypothetical question. And he loved his hypotheticals. And often these hypotheticals had sexual themes.

There was one time he used a student's name. He loved using students for examples. And he said,

if student's name was a stripper and only striped while they were ovulating, they would make more money because of the hormone. There was a question one day he asked a room of 20 or 30, 15

“year olds. Do you etiquette? It comes out to you as a furry or a zoofile. Which would you prefer?”

You wrote it on the board, which is one of the pictures that I sent in. Oh my gosh. Okay, one of the one I looked at. My girlfriend dog, it says. Yeah. Oh, my other kid. Wow, wow, wow, because he follows it up with one of it was your girlfriend or boyfriend who said they were a zoofile or a furry. It was just unbelievably strange. Yeah. Yeah. This is not school. No. This is his own narcissistic masturbatory. This is like the ending of my sophomore year and I'm like,

this guy is a really fucking weird. So I decide to Google him because I'm a stalker at her, and if something's on the internet, I'm going to find it. There are countless articles about him debunking his claims and pairing him apart because he calls himself a doctor and makes medical claims, which are false. His main claim was that an elderflower pill can replace the flu vaccine, which is also the other pictures that I sent in. One is just a screenshot of Google

of all of the articles that the other is his claim. Can I ask how long had this charter school been in operation when you joined? How long was he holding court like this? And how on earth were no students flagging this to anyone? As of right now, it's been open like 10 years and he had worked there for maybe two years at the time. I imagine his confidence was just growing. He didn't start out this hardcore like, "Hey, what do you want your boyfriend to be or if you're a stripper on your

period?" I mean, it feels like you'd have to ramp up to that and we could tip not getting busted for being an appropriate. Well, if he's a father figure and people are looking up to him, he's getting disgust. Yeah, the principal loved him because he was a doctor. He was a wonderful asset to this school. And I got rid of the principal's axima. It was impossible to get fired from that school too. There's some crazy stuff that I'd gone on there. So in the beginning of my junior

year, now that I had taken a class with him, he obviously knew me very personally and could now diagnose me. So I ended up having a seizure within the first month of my junior year because a side effect of well-bead trend. Oh, no! And I'd like one of the most common side effects. It was

a one-time event never happened again. So I'm telling my friend about this. I'm not growing

never going to guess why I wasn't in the year of the other day. And he over hears this conversation

“and he comes up to me. So you need to stop taking all of your meds. And this was exciting for me”

that I'm like, "Oh my gosh, this is my first, I'm finally getting medical advice from this crazy man." Obviously, I continue taking my medication. And a couple of weeks later, I am complaining to the same friend about period crops. And he looks at me and says, "Those aren't period cramps you're having." And instead, it's a bug in my stomach that has been passed down through generations of my family and that I need to go get tested. He says it like it's like a freaking SDD. I'm just kind of okaying my

way through the situation because that's what I've learned best with him. If you just like go,

goes relax. I don't think you're taking me seriously. And it's like super like stern and mean about it.

“He kind of just shrugs it off and suggests I take a garlic film. He ended up getting fired”

finally because he was using students as examples in class. There was this like plastic high school couple who ended up breaking up and he was using this as this example. And that was the final strong. Wow, it's kind of shocking that that was versus all the other stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like

when you talk about bottoms and it's like there's so many bottoms, but the actual bottom is never

really the worst one. Oh, right, right. But that's because if someone told her parents an

“apparent probably complain, I'm not entirely sure because he had talked to parents in offered medical advice”

to parents about their kids. Like one of my best friends during a parent teacher conferences, he suggested to her mom that she get taken off a flexible pro. I was mildly delighted he got fired for that. I thought for sure this is going to end up with him in an inappropriate relationship with his student because he's like, I'm a father. I'm a treasurer. It was an ego maniac and a narcissist.

He was on his way to cult leader, which always involves sex. Yes. He does work with children. Now still,

“I would like to add just some other additional fun facts around him. He had a human skull in his room.”

He did not know who it belonged to. He just kind of had it, which I don't think is ethical. He pulled us in death about his suicide attempt and experiences with acid. And then one day, my friend was experiencing a UTI and he found out and told her unprovpted that she needs to start having more phone sex with her friend bond. Okay. Because she's having sex on the weekends, but not enough sex during the weekdays. So she needs to have phone sex. Oh, this is- This isn't saying.

It's other thing. Oh, it does. It does. When I told my friends, I was going on this podcast. They were all like, holy. And everyone's a victim of Mr. Teacher. Yuck. No, thank you. You would kill him. Oh, I might have him take a look at my story at a Carthritis. He's got another perspective on how I can approach it. Yeah, no, no. In my daughter's came home and gave me this report. It would be very hard for me now to drive up to the school. And I guess get physical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.

That's a story. Oh, Alexis is so nice meeting you. Yes. I'm glad you made it through. And I'm glad he got candid. Right. I would love to shout out my mom. She is a reading teacher. And I'm very good one at that. We listen to this all of the time. Shout out mom. All right. Well, have a great rest of your day and have fun and college. You're true. Thank you so much. All right. Take care. That was a good process. It really was. All right. Love you.

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