Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors II

I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Lily Pad, man.

- Hello. - Today, we're going to entertain you with crazy stories of neighbors. - We've all been there.

“- I mean, really, it seems pretty universal, doesn't it?”

- It does. - I've had a handful of questionable neighbors. - But these really, these are, to be top. - Yeah, these are more extreme than I have ever dealt with. - Yeah.

Oh, that's one of these verbs you're talking about, but I knew I did it. - And it was, I might count it. - I didn't. - I couldn't help it.

- I don't actually think that was one. - That was from all the classroom, and I've been-- - Yeah, that wasn't what I'm talking about. - Oh, okay, that wasn't one of the tick ones. - Yeah.

- Okay, please enjoy crazy neighbors. (upbeat music) - I don't know. I'ma keep on shining. - Hi.

- What your name is in quotes. Does that mean it's a fake name? - It does. - It is your fake name, Kelsey. - My fake name is Kelsey.

- Oh, hey.

“- We're not even gonna ask you what your real name is.”

- On my gonna ask, but I do wanna know is this a nod to the Kelsey Brothers. - Oh, shit. - No. - Okay, great, just wanna see what we're dealing with.

- Why Kelsey, do you have a friend that you love that's named Kelsey? - No, I can't actually say much, 'cause I don't give it away. I just want it was a good option.

- Oh, great. - I'll stop pounding you about it. I just thought it could be a maybe a cute thing. Kelsey, where are you? - I am in Thunder Bay on Terio, Canada.

- Oh, what's Thunder Bay? - Thunder Bay is the same place that you guys had a caller in that had the gross, shin, melty puddle in the restaurant. - Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like kind of a seaside, party, Tony vibe. - Yeah, upon Lake Superior. - Oh, you're on Lake Superior. - Right on the northern part. - Wow, and let's just tell people,

“Lake Superior is the most beautiful of the Great Lakes.”

It's the biggest, the deepest, the cold. - It's the cold, very freezing. - Hide a summer, what's the temp of that water? - Oh, way too cold for me. The kids will go in, 'cause they'll go in anything.

- That way too cold. - I couldn't even guess. - And it gets dicey on Superior like the Edmunds Fitzgerald crash there. So you get some high seas, Monica.

- Oh my God. - Yeah, high seas. - Yes. - Okay, so you have a crazy neighbor story. - I have a very crazy neighbor story.

- Oh, there's so much. - Yeah, yeah, we like a crazy neighbor story. - I know, I was a little bit nervous to tell, but you know what? I'm just gonna put it out there and tell it.

So I do have notes just because it was over a few years. - Also you're an armchair, which means you're smart and organized in a good story town. - I am. - And you have your notes, it's very common.

- Yes, this all started during COVID. So during COVID, while I was very pregnant

with my second son, we bought a house

and immediately got warned about the woman next door. Within the first week, my husband and I were like, "Look, you know, the window and we saw her lining up rocks." So our yard sort of goes like right against her driveway. So she was lining up rocks along the length of our yard

and then started digging up our yard as though she was going to expand her driveway onto our yard. - Okay, okay, interesting. How old is our neighbor friend? - I would put her in her 60s.

- Oh, sure, sure. - So my husband and I are watching this and he's like, "You know what, I'm gonna go out and talk to her." And I'm like, "Okay, let's just tread lightly."

I'm a little bit more of the cool-com collected. He can have a shorter fuse when pervoked. - Dax shepherd time. - A little bit, yeah. So we go outside and she immediately screams that I stay back.

It's COVID, stay back, it's COVID and puts her shirt up over her face to sort of protect her I guess from us. So my husband asks what she's doing.

She tells us that basically our yard is her property

and there's a little heated exchange where she ends with telling him to go fuck himself. - Oh wow. - He returned to the sentiment and he walked back inside. I'm like, very pregnant, waterline behind him.

- Can I ask, is this a vacation property or your primary residence? - Nope, this is like our primary residence. - So you're not living next to an enemy. - So we decided, let's be adults about this,

we'll get a survey to like properly determine the property line and we will build a fence because as we know, fences make good neighbors. - Yeah, yeah. - The survey company came, they marked out the line,

our property actually ended like a foot or two into her driveway. She wasn't home at the time, so they left a card in her mailbox. We just thought, you know, okay, great.

It's COVID, so we had to wait a bit for lumber because as you guys know, like things were just crazy

And I guess she took it upon herself

“to call the survey company, threatened them”

to the point where the survey company actually called me and they said, look, we know your husband's working out of town. We've actually gone on lockdown here because she's making threats to come down here. So we're just suggesting you sort of lock your doors

and do the same. - Oh my God. - They're on lockdown at the survey in place. Wow, okay. - Yeah, and so I was home with my three-year-old son at the time, so that was kind of sketchy,

just not really knowing what was going on. So between what we had the survey and when we actually built the fence, there were multiple police calls. We actually had her on video saying just wait until your kid

comes over here again, but she never finished the threat.

So the police couldn't do anything about it. - Oh my God. - Yeah, and he was three at the time. Like, he wasn't ever going over there. They would take pictures of my son outside playing to this day.

He turns nine next week, and he's still afraid of her. - Well really quick, she have a husband and the Max or a partner. - Yes, he never really gets into the dust-ups. It's mostly her, but he is around.

“Every time the police showed up, of course,”

the whole neighborhood comes out to kind of see what's going on, especially during COVID, we were all looking for cheaper free entertainment. - Yeah. - Yeah, you were providing it. - Yeah, she would be out there screaming to everyone

about what terrible parents we were because we let our kid roam around. She threatened to call children's aid on us. She called 911 so many times. - Oh my God, this is like that dog.

- It is. We ended up being on like a first name basis with the police, my little guy. He thought police were just a normal part of life that they were at everyone's house all the time.

- Yeah. - She called bylaw to falsely report our dog running at large. So things became really uncomfortable. We had such bad anxiety. We didn't want to go outside.

You never knew what you were gonna get with her.

She would stare at us. So we'll jump forward to this is now like August, 2020. And we finally have the materials to build the fence. My husband's very handy. So him and some buddies, some family all came over

to build this fence. They would not move their vehicles so that we could get in there. They just stood there hands on their hips staring at us. She called 911 reporting that my husband was standing

in the yard with weapons, which was like a drill and a hammer because we were building a fence. - Do you think 911's ever blocked a call? - I know. - I know.

- I know. - I'm not taking this one's calls anymore. - But that's what we can say. Like what a waste of resources to send all these police all the time.

So the police ended up actually just sort of staying at our house the whole day to keep the peace because every time they left, she would call back or we would have to call because she read into the back yard at one point and was throwing tree branches over the fence.

- Oh my God. - She needs a job. - She needs a mental facility. - She scribbled on a cardboard sign for sale and hung that up in her tree as we were building the fence.

She's very clearly not well. - Yeah, I'm confused. - So this is where things started to get scary. So around that same time, our dog out of nowhere got really, really sick.

Varmony, nonstop, lost a ton of way, we had to take into the emergency that and they said that his blood works showed that there were toxins but unless we knew what toxin we were looking for, they couldn't actually confirm.

So the fence got built with police on standby. - Did you reclaim all that? Did you go into her driveway or did you back off of the driveway? - No, we were nice about it.

We just went to where the yard line was at the time. We didn't really want to poke too much. So after my second son was born, I don't know if it was because it was COVID and she had nothing better to do maybe,

but as she backed out her driveway, would just Blair on her horn. The full minute it took her to back out. - Oh my god. - My rooms on that side of the house,

the baby's room was on that side of the house. It would be like early, early morning, middle of day, every time she would just Blair the horn. - Can I am gonna pause for one second? Just want to check in with Monica

'cause Monica and I debate about this all the time.

And she's right, physical violence should never happen.

“- Do you know what I think this woman just needs”

to get her ass kicked by another woman? I mean, someone needs to go, you can't act this way, I'm not gonna allow. - I mean, I think verbally, yes, that won't happen.

- But if that wasn't what's not going to deter her. - I just don't know that even physical violence would deter someone like that. Like I just think she needs help. She needs to be put in a hospital.

- Okay, okay, bye bye, go to us. - Yeah, bye. - I could see in the 80s this going on for three weeks in my neighborhood, but I feel like some mom would have punched her

and then that might have been the end of it. - Yeah, I don't can dump it.

- Okay, just checking it. Just wondered if this rose to that. - Okay, if she was the kid, I'll say yes. - Okay, okay. - I know not the very friendly Canadian stereotype.

(laughing) So she would like stand in her driveway, watching me put my son on the school bus. She actually called the school bus company trying to get the stop moved

because she didn't want it stopping in front of her house. She took so many pictures of us, so many videos of my son. - What's the threshold for her harassment?

“Like can you see somebody, this feels like harassment?”

- We'll get to that, okay, okay, okay. - Yeah, she made all kinds of fake police calls. I think at one point, she made a 911 call, saying my husband was like rubbing his sled, his snow machine, in the middle of the night,

or like racing it down the street, something ridiculous. At one point, she told the police referring to my husband. She said I'm not gonna let some snott-nosed kid tell me to go fuck myself.

Which we've always thought is hilarious

because my husband is a tradesman, he's in his 30s, he has a full beard, he's very much not a snott-nosed little kid. So at that point, I think we had about 20 police reports from all of the false complaints in her assment, but the thing that finally led to her

having criminal charges was when she decided to email my husband's employer. My husband drives a work vehicle. His company and everything is blasted all over the side. It's not hard to see who he works for.

Police were here for something, I can't remember, but they had said to us, they had just talked to her, and she was thinking about emailing my husband's boss. So the next day, she sent his company an email. She basically laid out that my husband was dangerous,

creepy, intimidating.

“She actually said, I don't think I could take him”

if something like physical was to happen, which is crazy, my husband's the nicest guy. He would never hurt a fly. But also, yeah, you can't take him. - Right.

- That's all because of that. - Yeah, yeah, you probably can't take a lot of 30 or two. - Right. (laughs) She also attached a bunch of pictures of his work vehicle just parked in the street.

Our house, him walking down the street. Thankfully, she was dumb enough to put it in writing because that was the final straw. That's what led to her being charged with two counts of criminal harassment.

- Oh God. - Yeah. - She dragged the court proceedings out for close to two years. We almost went to trial and she finally pled guilty. Like days before we were supposed to go to trial.

- And during the two years where she was about to be on trial, did her antics stop? - No, not as intense, but more of an intimidating, like every time we were outside, she would make sure she was outside.

The picture's never stopped.

- She did accuse my husband of being a lawyer one time. While we were waiting, she called 911 to say he was peeping in her windows. - You know, I bet when you look at her phone, the nine and the one and the one, the white war now.

- Yeah, that's true. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah, that's true. - Yeah, that's true. (laughs) - So once she played guilty, what did they say? If you do it again, you could end up in jail.

Like, I can't imagine they sent her to jail for this. - No, she didn't go to jail. She had, I think it's called a suspended sentence. So basically, we got like a restraining order, so she couldn't communicate with us or our kids.

Couldn't come onto our property. That was the part that bothered me the most. Was the kids?

“- Yeah. - Like, if you want to harass me”

and my husband, we're adults. - Well, you're not no skids, but yes, I do. (laughs) How many years ago was that that conviction happened? - 2022. - And have you had four years of peace?

- I don't know if I would call it peace, but things have certainly calmed down since she was convicted. She still lives next door. - Oh, wow.

- Oh my God. - You know, you never know.

- I mean, the only compassion I can find in this is she's very unhappy. - Well, we don't have, she's unhappy. - She is. - Well, she's unwell.

But I think sometimes unwell people might not be unhappy. - I think she's so grouchy and easily annoyed and anything that's happening, she feels like it's a personal assault in her fucking fight or flight's probably up and her cortisol's are dumb.

- Definitely. - I mean, definitely. Because of this, this way she's chosen. - Some people get high on that. - Well, we've heard various stories from the other neighbors, streets over, saying,

"Oh yeah, 25 years, we've known that woman, "she's been like that her whole life." So that's my crazy neighbor. - Wow. - That's a rough life.

- That is rough. Luckily, I want to say, "I know what it's like to live in that type of area "in your neighbors are more relevant "in that type of neighborhood."

Like, we have that here. We have some when we can't stand. We don't care. We don't see them. - Yeah, you're gonna have everyone's in their house

and LA, it's fine. But if we lived in rural area and we shared a yard, it'd be a different scenario. - Yeah, especially our summers are so short here. We want to get outside and be outside as much as we can.

But I will say, after so many years of anxiety,

So, I got counted as a way.

(laughing)

“- Long land that there was some silver line between us.”

- Exactly. - Well, Kelsey, lovely meeting you. Oh, yeah, thanks for telling us that. - Thank you so much. Can I just say a very quick shout out just to everyone

who has heard this story for years? All my friends, all my coworkers. And of course, my husband who has gone through all of this with me, we're a great team. And hopefully we don't have any more challenges

like this down the road. - We're sending you all the good vibes. - All right, well, lovely meeting you and joy this little glimpse of summer coming your way. - Thank you so much, guys.

- All right, thank you. - Thank you. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) - Hello.

- Hi. - How are you? - So good. What fake name should we go with? - Well, I was hoping you could maybe assign one to me.

- Okay. - I'm going with Claire. - Oh, I like that.

“- Claire's a very friendly name, isn't it?”

- And I've known a few Claire's over the years. They're all very friendly.

- I've never met a bad Claire.

- It's hard to find a bad Claire. - Or a bad e-clair. - That's easier. (laughs) - That's a bad e-clair.

Claire, where are you? - I am currently in Maine. - Ooh, I want to go. - Maine's having a real moment, right? A lot of people moving to Maine.

- Yeah, especially after the pandemic, a lot of folks moved up here, including our families. - Yeah, I have a good friend who moved there. Live there for the last five years, just sold his house. - And it had tripled in value in the five years he owned it.

- That's so nice. - I really want to go there. It looks so idealic. - It's pretty. - Where did you come from?

- So we moved here from the Seattle area. - Oh, okay, so all the way across. - Yeah, we like the corners. - Yeah, you like the corners. (laughs)

- You could have also agreed to only live in town's name Portland and still been on the Pacific Northwest. - That's true. - Okay, so your crazy neighbor story was it in the Seattle area?

- Yes. - Walk us through it, let us hear. - This took place in early September of 2018. At the time we were living in a very idyllic suburban area. Outside of Seattle, there are some very family-friendly towns.

They have a name and they have their own private park. Kids ride their bike still, it feels very like 1950s. They're just running into each other's houses and stuff like that. And so that's where we were.

We had two young kids at the time and tons of families where we lived. The kids were like early elementary school. And my daughter was good friends with two other daughters in the neighborhood.

They all hung out together and stuff and our families began to hang out. - What ages? - The young guys being like five and the oldest being eight. I'll give you a couple of names, a couple of the players.

So Karen and Heather, Karen's kids and Heather's kids, all of our daughters, they all hung out together. And so Karen and Heather and our family, we would get together for trick of treating and Easter eggs and community events

and all of those kinds of things. We even went camping together in that summer before.

So we knew each other well, but always with tons of kids

and husbands and people always around. There was another family, Jennifer's family. She had two boys, but she was like our kids soccer coach. So we all knew each other and again, kids all in the same age,

going to the same school, same bus stop. And in early September, one of the daughters had a birthday party. Heather and Karen and I, we were hanging out after the birthday party more like we should do a mom's night out. Like school is back in session, long summer,

let's have a good time. Yeah, we decided that we're going to do it the following weekend. And in between time, there was this soccer practice.

“So I was like, hey, why don't we invite Jennifer too?”

Because she's cool, friendly, super funny. And she's the mother of the boys. She's the mother of the boys. And the other two moms are like, yeah, that sounds great. We decided to go to a country western bar

with a mechanical bull. Oh, the moms are going hard. Keep in mind, at this point, I'm in my early 40s. So it's another mom, everybody else, late 30s. We are not mechanical bull riding appropriate age.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. But it's hilarious and why not? Yes, and chip of nails is an infashion. That's right, and that wasn't really our style anyway. We're like, let's just go and make fun of ourselves

and have a couple of beers. But in the lead up, we started group text. And cancels a text of Deborah Winger from Urban Cowboy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, but in Sicily.

In that movie, Sicily is like, erotically riding the bull. She's in a white tank top, brawless. Yeah, it's a lot. So she sends a gift, Jeff, whatever you call it, of Deborah Winger riding the bull.

Now again, this is not really our vibe for the rest of us. So we're like, that's a choice. But could be funny. Yeah, we were like, okay, let's go to the funny rap. So we were like, all right, let's embrace our Deborah Winger.

So you know, we're going to have a good time. So I'm the designated driver. The rest of us, we all meet up. I take everybody out.

She just got a new job.

So she's like happy drunk.

“We're all just laughing, having a really good time.”

Erin is a little on the quiet side. We decide to go to the mechanical bull. Really quick, had she arrived in an overtly sexy outfit or just normal? Just normal.

Okay, all right. We were all just kind of normal. Trying to get our country on. And that was a really our situation, either. So I go at first.

I come to call the mechanical bull kind of instantly. We're laughing really hard. We're all having a good time. Jennifer goes up. Heather goes up.

We all instantly fall off. Karen goes up. And she's been very quiet. Very kind of serious this whole time. And she does kind of seductively write the bull.

Hi. A little longer than the rest of us. She's kind of whipping her hair back and forth. Living out of fantasy. We're like, okay, but we're cheering for her.

We're like, that wasn't what bus stop moms we were expecting. But we're like, oh, Deborah, you know. She gets off. And she kind of struts over to us. She's very straight face.

We're laughing. We're just enjoying ourselves and making fun of the whole situation. And she's like, yes, my husband is a very happy new. Oh, all right. Oh, wow.

Thanks for telling us. Oh, okay. And she kind of keeps walking back to the table. Oh, she's like, says it in passing. Yeah.

She throws it away. So she goes back to the table. You know, we carry on. We're having a good time. We're wine dancing.

A couple hours in. And again, Karen's pretty quiet. I come back to the table from wine dancing. And it's just Jennifer and Karen at the table. And Jennifer's kind of teary.

Oh, oh, boy. And Karen is very flat face, like flat affect. And Jennifer is immediately like, I'm going to the bathroom. So she goes to the bathroom and Karen follows her. Oh, I have no idea what's going on.

I'm fat dumb and happy. You're not even drinking, right? Yeah. So I'm like, and we're all grown as women. Yeah, you're like, what do you mean?

Yeah. But Heather immediately is alarmed. And she said something's wrong. I think Karen is attacking Jennifer. What?

Whoa. And I'm like, what are you even talking about? Keep mind, we had just gone camping together. The month prior, like, this was so out of left field.

“And so Heather's like, you need to go check on them”

in the bathroom.

Okay, hold on one second.

Do you have a guest? A little bit. I have a guest too. Minimally, she thinks this woman's fucking her husband. That's right.

That's my guest. That Jennifer is. Jennifer is fucking her husband. That's my guest. She's like, look, I'm sexier than you.

My husband's very happy. You don't even think about it. Yeah, you fucking think about it. Yeah, I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it.

I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it.

I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it. I'm just sharing it. Okay. Jennifer looks at me and is like, she is a crazy fucking bitch.

Oh my God. And this is not how Jennifer talks. And I'm like, what just happened? She's like, I don't want to cause any more drama. She's very territorial with me.

She's saying really nasty things about me.

She basically just verbally attacked me for the last 10 minutes.

Whoa. And Jennifer's like, I'm catching an Uber. And I'm leaving. So Jennifer leaves. I come back to the table and I have a lot of experience, like, de-escalated.

Heeded situations, both personally and professionally. And so that part of my brain kinda clicks in. And I'm like, I'm gonna say cool and common collective. I'm gonna leave with some curiosity. I'm really clear about what's mine and what's not mine and clearly whatever's happening

with Karen is. Not mine.

“So I come back to the table and I'm like, what's going on?”

And she's like, you know what's going on. She starts talking in this, like, really cryptic, kind of hostile way towards me. And she says, you are such a bully. And you know what? So is your daughter.

Oh no. Oh no. Now it's gonna be hard to de-escalate. You just brought my child into it. Oh.

My daughter, she barely turned eight at this point. Everybody that I talk to about hers, just like, she's the sweetest kind of kid. So I kind of instantly know, this has nothing to do with me. This has nothing to do with my kid. And if there is something in mine or something in my daughters, some transgression, I'm happy

to own it. We get talking, and I'm like, tell me more. She's kind of circling around you now. The only specific thing I can get from her is one time, my daughter, and Heather's daughter, whispered in each other's ear, and didn't tell Karen's daughter what they whispered.

So a bully, she's a bully. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, big bully. And so I was like, I see that as a parenting difference. I'm okay with children whispering in each other's ears.

She's not de-escalating. In fact, she starts then verbally attacking my husband. So I'm all done with this conversation. I'm starting to get triggered. This has gone on too long, but I'm still the designated driver where a half-hour away.

I'm still willing to take you in my car and keep in mind, Heather is sitting there the whole time, but she's no longer happy drunk.

This is going to be a very fun month tonight, and it's not turned out.

Yeah, sounds more like a trip to Vegas. That's right.

“I've been texting my husband this whole time, because he's like, how's it going?”

And I'm like, holy shit. I'm going sideways. So I'm like, going once, going twice, okay, you guys are staying, I'm leaving. I leave. I call my husband.

I'm talking to him on the phone trying to tell him all the crazy things that had happened. I'm just a minute or so out and Heather calls. And I'm like, fuck you, I'm not answering your phone call. I don't want any, like, come on back. We were having fun.

Now I don't want any of that, and I'm like, you chose to stay. So I'm out. I keep talking to my husband.

She calls the second time.

I ignore her call. A second time, but I tell my husband, hey, Heather just called me twice. She calls the third time. I'm answering. She calls the third time.

I pick up the phone, and she says, she punched me. Oh my god. She punched her. Oh my god. Where this bar was, it's kind of like, or wide lanes of highway, like, car dealerships around,

you know, like, very industrial kind of place. She had crossed the street, and was just high tailing it in a direction on the street. She's like, can you come back and pick me up? So I do. I come back.

I pick her up. She's like covered in beer. Apparently what happened is I left the bar, Heather, who's been stunned by her side this whole time, turns to Karen and says, it's just the two of us now. What are we going to do?

And Karen punches Heather in the face. Oh my god. Heather drops to the ground.

Karen punches her a second time on the ground.

Let's remember, within an hour of bully allegations, which is spectacular.

“I think she was just like raging with impotence.”

I could tell she wanted to get a rise out of me, and I wasn't giving her that, and I think she just kind of snapped, but somebody helps Heather up, Heather, walks out of the bar, Karen follows her screaming at her. Heather crosses the four lanes of traffic, and that's when I pick her up. Turns out, in the car, Heather opens up to me, and begins telling me that Karen had had a baby,

a year or so prior, she was postpartum going through something, had kind of sworn Heather to secrecy was really worried and paranoid, but had been doing all this emotionally manipulative stuff. It was more prevalent, and maybe some emotionally abusive relationships. She had also been verbally attacking Heather's daughter, and like really seemed to be targeting

a lot of hostility towards not just my daughter, but hers, so there was like a long-standing pattern that I had no idea about. And Heather was actually reluctant to come out with us that night, but because I didn't know anything. I was just like, "That's a monster!"

And anyway, that night, Karen reached out to Heather, Heather sent her a text, and said, "You fuck off and die, don't ever talk to me again," and Karen kept texting. Heather filed a police report, a restraining order was issued. I was able to fact-check myself because we have a lot of court documents, documenting the whole night.

Oh, boy.

“And when the police officer came to take the report, he was like, "Oh, my gosh.”

Boss, mom, soccer, mom." He kept his fight. By the way, in their defense, there was a lot of fist fights at that bar in Urban Cowboy. She was like, "Really? I wasn't living now.

I think he even scissi got enough." Fucking girl fight. She really was. Yeah, yeah. She did it.

It was really awkward because Jennifer was still our soccer coach. Karen and I were still on the soccer team, the season had just started. Her and her husband pretended like nothing had happened. Oh, boy. I had to send some strongly-worded texts to everybody saying, "Oh, no.

We're not pretending. Karen's accounting of the night because again, a restraining order was issued, and her recounting of the night was that Heather had said, "Oh, I wonder who you're going to fuck tonight." And also that she had accused Karen of doing sex acts with Jennifer's husband. Okay.

Nice. Nice. Nixon at all. It was a very like dissociated from reality, but the daughters still hung out together. So we had to tell our kids, "You can't hang out with her daughter anymore because she was

so targeting our daughters." Yes. And she's tricky. And they would find each other in different friends' houses. And we wanted to protect her mental health status and her daughters' ability to shape friendships.

You're making me grateful. I haven't become friends with a lot of the kids parents. I don't know about that, but no I'm feeling like that. Right. It's very a mess.

You can get so fucking messy. Yeah. There were two big takeaways from it. One was that the judge said he wouldn't have issued the restraining order had my friend

And the other thing was, Jennifer and Heather and I have trauma bonded and we are still in touch. We talked to each other every week. But one of the things that we found when we were all debriefing about some of the weird stuff that had led up to it was that we kept using this word weird.

Like, "Oh, I had this conversation with her and I was kind of weird." And this situation happened and that was kind of weird. And I'm like, "You know what? I have a new mantra. Weird equals warning."

Not weird, I'll give it to weird, like this is the delightful weird. Not like all of the weird. Not the weird. Yeah, that's right. We were just fantastic.

But those conversations where you're trying to justify it and being like, "Uh-huh."

“Did we find out if she had fucked anyone's husband or her husband and fucked anyone?”

No. No, we don't think any husbands were fucked besides her. Oh, okay. Who's very happy? Yeah, she does it well.

Okay, so there was no handwriting outside of her own imagination probably. Well, something she was kind of like. Yeah, she had some psychosis. Yeah. Did she have a period where she was infatuated with you?

You know, she did send me convict cryptic text. That was like, "I so admire you and the strength you have." I think she has borderline. And then she thinks everyone's out to a getter. So the point where you're willing to punch someone and you've really to bench yourself

was personally trying to harm. We are. You're not supposed to do that, but I'm going to keep billing it. I just want everyone to know, if you tell me not to, it's the waste of your breath. I'm going to continue to do it.

There were signs of that kind of borderline stuff because one of the things Heather said is one day she kind of followed them after the bus stop and she had her four-year-old with her. And she would yell at Heather about what a terrible mom she was and then the four-year-old started crying and then she would like switch and be like, "Oh honey, everything's okay.

It's okay." And then she would go back to attacking. And the reason where everybody's names have been changed is because Jennifer and Heather and Karen still live. Yeah, that's still out.

It got some years left. You're like, "Fuck this. Let's go to May. We'll see how the people are. We'll see how the people are made."

Yeah. Honestly. We'll clear what a spicy night out for the mom's not what we were expecting. But it broke them and not me. Some drama's kind of fun.

I'd be liking it all. But not neighbors because you can't remove yourself. That's the problem. It was awkward because she's a big part of the PTA and would be a part of family events. It just got really awkward.

But yeah, it does make for a good story. And Jennifer and I would celebrate by sending Heather a little gifts like fruit punch. And it's a talk I say, "Amen." Can I? Can I?

“Can you read the budding of our intimate friendship or strong friendship that we now have?”

Oh my. Oh, thank you. Well, yeah. Thank you, Claire. That was great.

Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Shout out to Shalice. She is a day one listener who got me hooked into you all. Thank you, Shalice.

And then the other thing I just want to say, Dax, I know a lot of people talk about how much your stories of sobriety mean to them. And my dad was an alcoholic.

He never went into recovery at all.

In fact, he went the other way, died of cirrhosis, tragic. But your stories have been healing for me even after his death. And shows me the amount of courage and strength and fortitude and support. But my dad really didn't have and gave us me a lot of compassion for him. Oh, good.

It's very hard. It's healing for me. So I appreciate it. Oh, my pleasure. That's so nice to hear.

Thank you. All right. Have a great summer up there. Bye. Bye.

[MUSIC PLAYING] Hi. How are you? What name are we using?

“Your name is in parentheses, which makes me think it's a code name.”

It is a code name. I'm going to go by Caroline today. Oh, hi. Caroline, where are you?

First of all, your environment is so well put together.

It is. This is my home office. I'm in Colorado. Oh, OK, great. Your arms are ripped.

Are you like a climber or something? Absolutely not. I just have two toddlers. So I can't even have a lot of really bulky children all day. They'll tone up those biceps.

That's one of the favors they view for us. Exactly. And are you from there? Did you move there? Move to there, actually.

So originally from Maui, which is where my story takes place. Oh, that's rare. My story takes place around 2016. And I was with my boyfriend for about a year at the time. And we decided to move into our first place together.

So big step, we found this gorgeous apartment, especially if you're in your 20s, this was a score. It had a spiral staircase. It was lofted. It was in a dream apartment.

We moved in, and it was great at first.

It's a large house to give context that was subdivided into multiple units. So kind of a slum-lord situation. We had our place, which was probably like an add-on to the house. It was above a carport. There was the main house that had maybe three people living in it.

And then there was a two car garage that had been converted into two studio apartments. And that's kind of where the focus is. So we had James on one side and then Jamie on another side. And they could actually start a dating and become a couple. Oh, James and fun.

Yes, exactly. James, we kind of knew of. He was kind of in my parent's circle. So we knew him. And Jamie was very quirky.

She was, let's say, mid 50s.

She had a giant tramp stamp, and she always walked around

and a sports round, tiny shorts. Yeah, good for her. Well, you give a vibe check for Maui because I imagine a lot of people move there with kind of interesting lofty spirituality dreams or something. Is it a hodgepodge of people?

You get a really good mix of people. You get hippie crunchy. You get obviously people that are native. There's a lot of different competing vibes there. It's kind of a strange place.

“A lot of vibes is just the best way I can say.”

And Jamie had a vibe. She really did. I mean, she would smoke cigarettes outside all day. She didn't work. She told us she was undergoing cancer treatment, which I'm not sure if

that is true or not, because I don't think she left the house much at all. So anyway, we're enjoying our apartment. Everything's great.

My now husband, then boyfriend, made great friends with Jamie.

They get along great. Super friendly, quirky, but not threatening. And then fast forward to maybe a month living in the apartment and I received a package of my name. I opened it up.

It's from Sephora. And it's like a laser device of some sort. Maybe like a laser skin device I want to say. I did not order this. I looked it up on Sephora and it was like an 800 dollar shit.

Wow. But it was your name. Not to share this. In my name to my address, but I had not ordered this. And there's no way I could have afforded this.

I was like 23, 24 at the time. Like this was expensive. I kind of started to decide. I was like, I'm going to have to investigate this. I'll ask around our neighbors.

This is strange. A couple days later, we're chatting outside on our patio with our neighbors.

“And I go, hey, by chance, did you guys order a large package from Sephora?”

I didn't order this. And it's really strange because it was really expensive. And I just want to see if anybody else ordered this. I want it to get in the right hands. I could just see the wheels turning in his head.

He goes, well, how much was it for? And I was like, you know, it was about $800. He goes, I just had a fraudulent charge on my car from Sephora for about that amount. Oh, no. Oh, okay.

And we were like, oh, my God. So we pulled a package out. We're all looking through it. We're looking for any sort of clues. We find a phone number on the receipt.

Obviously, we're going to call it. And it was Jamie from downstairs. With the Trump stamp and the cigarettes in the question of cancer treatment. At this point, we kind of put together. So she uses his credit card, puts under my name to avoid suspicion, but doesn't work.

So she hoped to intercept the package, kind of a arrangement for a plan. I don't call when they get confused at this multi-person dwelling. Yes. But what she didn't account for was my boyfriend's former roommate was our Fed X-riper. Oh.

So we were total buds, and he would just walk into our house and just drop off packages. That was the other thing I wanted to ask you about Maui. It's a small place. There's not a ton of people, right? So if you grew up there, even the fact that you said your parents knew some of the neighbors.

Everyone knows each other. I didn't know her. Nobody really knew who she was. But like I said, it's like, okay, well, help her. Right, and because she beat, we know the other people that live here.

We knew her boyfriend, like, how bad could it be? Anyway, we find out she had ordered it. She hoped to intercept it. Fed X-riper thwarted that plan. We're at this point.

We're like, okay, well, we have to file a police report. So we call the police, the non-emergency line. They sent out an officer.

“He shows up and immediately is like, is this my Jamie lives?”

Oh, perfect. Perfect. Apparently, she had had problems with the other tenants that used to live there. They had maybe accused her of possibly stealing a laptop, but I don't think anything ever came out of it.

They had since left the apartment. So he basically takes her information. He says, you know, we'll file a report. Keep me in the loop with anything else that comes up, gives us his card. I want to say maybe a week or so later, I get a credit card statement.

I had taken out a new credit card, but I never received the credit card, but I didn't

really think anything of it. Again, I'm in my young 20s and that's super organized at this point. I get the statement and there's thousands of dollars worth of charges wrapped up on this credit card that I never even received. Yeah.

All get it cleared up, basically we're able to figure out, indeed, Jamie had taken it out of the mailbox once it arrived and gone on a shopping spree. Oh, what kind of stuff did she buy more beauty products? No, she bought more short shorts. It was all macy's.

She went crazy at macy's. Wow. Good for macy's. Get that canceled. And then at this point.

Luckily, had a credit monitoring service through my work as a benefit. I started just getting kings after pains. She took out probably eight credit cards in my name in the span of one week.

Had you guys confronted her in face to face or no, you just called the police and let

them deal with it?

“We never really confronted her at that point.”

Okay. Okay. Down the road, we did a little bit, but I don't want to lose this apartment. Yeah, okay. There we go.

That's fair. Yeah. So, she takes out about eight credit cards in my name is able to go shopping with a few of them. We're able to get those canceled.

We continue to file police reports. They're telling us, okay, we're gathering evidence. We're probably going to arrest her at some point. She does end up getting arrested. And then the next day is out, watering plants outside, acting like nothing ever happened.

Then it kind of gets to a point where we're like, okay, this is crazy. She's obviously just continuing to try and open credit cards in my name, fake emails in my name. She's deranged. So we talked to our landlord.

He starts taking steps to get her removed from the property.

But as I discussed earlier, she was dating James, who lived in the other unit. So even after she was evicted, we were catching her, sneaking on to property, going through our mailbox. Did your husband ever pull a name this time? You know, like, how do you like this girl?

He's the thief. He's funny.

“He's starting to get confrontational towards us.”

He threw the window, tried to get confrontational with my boyfriend. I also had my dad over for dinner one night, which is funny, and he tried to fight my dad. Oh, my God. He was the one, though, that was also involved in Sephora.

No. Oh, there was a fraudulent charge. Not James. Different tenant. She was to sneak on property, like I said, she actually keeps ordering packages in my name,

and I keep receiving them. She ordered that same laser to more people. Oh, my God. She just quit smoking. She wants her skin to brighten up.

That's what I'm most irked about.

To be honest, the police are $1 on these things and never received them.

But I hope you used it. Isn't it crazy? The other thing I'm most triggered by is like, girl, stop smoking. You don't buy products. You're shit together.

It's just getting more and more chaotic. It seems like she's not going to leave us alone. But we're just kind of trying to hope, like, OK, it'll smooth out. She's off-property now. The landlords involved.

“We have to switch out the mailbox for a locked mailbox.”

We're just kind of hoping, OK, things are surely going to kind of start to taper down. Then one day, I am walking into the grocery store. One big main grocery store that everybody shops out on my island. I'm walking in. I kind of see something out of the corner.

My eye. I don't fully process it. I walk into the store. And I just had that gut feeling of, what's today? I just see.

So I walked back out. And on the glass door is a flyer. My boyfriend's picture is at the center of the flyer. There's a heading, new pedophile to the area. No, oh, oh, my god.

Oh, my god. And I did send in a picture of the flyer. Oh, my gosh. If you didn't know what you're looking at, she tried to make it look a few weeks ago.

No, she looks pretty pedophile in that photo. She's got a mustache. She's working against him. She's got his mustache. Oh, there's also what's really funny.

It looks like he has a tattoo on his neck. Yes, it does. That's a photo of his driver's license. And that's the watermark of the state of Hawaii going across the floor.

So our theory is that she walked into our house at some point, found his wallet, pulled down his driver's license and took a photo of it for this flyer. Because how else would she has that? She tried to make it very official.

It says new local pedophile to Maui, Hawaii criminal justice, data center, department of the attorney general. Like, it's a lot of work today. Wow. My heart was in my stomach.

Like, I could not believe that. It's got our address printed out. Yeah. Pedophile. And my address is not something that makes me feel safe.

So call my boyfriend. We go home immediately. He's like, OK, we got to start telling neighbors like what's going on. Like to let us know if you see her, if you see anything suspicious.

So he goes and knocks on our neighbors door. She literally tells him, get off my porch. I know who you are. Yes, she is. This is now, oh, no.

She had distributed this flyer in everybody's mailbox in our entire neighborhood. This is a real liable case here. This is what you can literally win a liable street over here. I thought about it, but I'm like, this could woman clearly

has nothing to her name. And it's still your own shit back? Yeah. I'm so sorry. Our neighbor called the street had it posted in their laundry room.

Like this poster had gone around. And again, small island, people had seen this poster. It had been circulated for a while. We just didn't know about it. Oh, boy.

So we had to call the police again. They had to go door to door telling everybody, in fact, he's not a sexual predator. This is a fake poster. Please let us know if you saw this being distributed.

You had to go door to door. It was completely wildifying.

we threw on the towel. We're leaving.

But what did the police do anything about this?

We couldn't prove that she had done it. They kept telling us she's going to be going to jail. The police kept amping this up. Like, when they arrested her, there was mail on her counter. That wasn't hers.

Like, there was all of these things pointing towards her, but nothing ever happened to it. Last I heard she was selling hummus at the farmer's market. Oh, not by that hummus. Oh, my God.

I did not support that local business. Nothing ever happened. Ew. I actually moved out. I heard that she started harassing somebody else in a house nearby. So clearly, this was her ML.

And did you guys bounce to Colorado? After that, we were pretty quickly like, OK,

“I think we need a break from the island.”

Wow. People go crazy on an island. Maybe some method that means true. We suspect, wow, that took a turn, hated that. Yeah, I don't like her in a story.

I weirdly admire her. No.

I mean, she's just making a absolute mess of everything.

And so much, she's trucking along. Nothing can get her down. I wish I almost had that level of delusion. Yeah, like if I had those things on my shoulders, like the cops came, there was mail everywhere.

I've got charges. It would ruin me. I couldn't just parade around and continue. We were doing drugs. That's true.

That would happen. That would happen. Yeah, I mean, she was shameless. We would walk by. She would say, good morning.

She'd be watering. She's like, she does not give a crap about anything. She didn't care. This prompt is making us grateful for the neighbor we don't like. Very tame, comparatively.

Anything is better than that. That's awful. That's about the peep. Well, it's so nice meeting you. Yeah.

Same. Nice to meet you as well. All right, take care. Bye. Hello.

We're going to go with a fake name. I'm just been told. Yeah, yeah.

“I think I'll keep myself anonymous for this one.”

OK. And what fake name would you like? Let's go with Mike. Mike. OK.

Nice and generic. Mike, where are you at? So I am located in the foothills of Northern California about an hour outside of Lake Tahoe. Oh, OK.

This drive Monica crazy. Is it the 90th runs through there? Close, the 80. OK, in dirt biking's big in the area or no. dirt biking's big in the area.

A lot of off-roading, just a lot of outdoor adventure stuff. Yeah, we got a lot of rivers out here skiing. And do you go up to Tahoe a lot? Yeah, my wife and I spend quite a bit of time up there. We like to ski and take our dogs up there.

OK, so Mike, you had a crazy neighbor. Maybe you've had more than one. Yeah, I did. And not so much one isolated incident as crazy neighbor stories often go

of a kind of progressive story over the period of a few years that kind of culminated in one large event. Oh, fun. OK, bread crumbs and then a loaf. Totally.

So 22, my wife and I bought our house. We moved back to the state. We both grew up in this area.

“It was a big deal for us, kind of buying our dream house”

and moving home, being close to family again. And we found this sweet little neighborhood. Everyone seemed really cool. Our next door neighbor is very friendly. Trails out of our back doors.

So it seemed just like this textbook picture perfect little thing. And we settled in really well and started meeting all the neighbors and everyone was cool. And we met one guy who was a little odd. But seemed like he was successful.

He was driving around at a nice sports car. And that's some odd conversations with him here and there at the mailboxes. Were you guys way younger than all your neighbors? We are.

Yeah, yeah. We're a generation below the majority of our neighbors. But this guy, not significantly older than us, but definitely in a different stage of life. Everyone's in a while.

People in the neighborhood will shoot. It's not a big deal. It's the country. I don't mind shoot guns. Yeah, shoot guns.

It's definitely a culture thing out here in the foothills. And he would shoot guns every few weeks. I'd hear some gunshots and whatnot coming from down the hill. And wouldn't really think much of it. Are people on acres in this neighborhood?

Yeah, these are all like five acre and bigger lots. Bigger parcels. You've got room to do that kind of stuff.

So I didn't really think much of it at first.

It became a little bit more frequent. And this is, you know, over the next year. So the frequencies, the shooting events happen a little bit more. And I just threw down some weird encounters with the guy around the neighborhood where he just seemed a little bit off.

OK, I work in health care. I've got a pretty good scope of when people just aren't quite that their proper baseline. Yeah. And I would just catch him out on the road again at the mailbox. And he just seemed a little off to the seam and great.

Made it. Not angry, but just having very strange strings of thoughts. Just those odd conversations you have, or they'll just like interject with some very out there. Non-sequider.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So I started having those with him, and my wife had a couple of very odd encounters out on the roadwalk and the dogs, where he was behind the wheel of a car and seemed like,

So we're starting to get a little bit concerned about this.

Nothing like to.

“It's hugely terrifying has happened, but we're starting to take notes.”

I also, you know, like most people kind of lurk the local community Facebook page. I was just keeping tabs on the neighborhood, and I read a few posts from some moms in the neighborhood about like, hey, there's just this kind of odd guy that's like talking to my kids at the park with stuff and they kind of describe the vehicle and I'm like, oh god, you know, like this isn't good.

And so we're now at this point, and it's last summer, when I initially sent this in, I thought July, but then I looked back at my videos and photos and it was actually in, like, September. Pete fire season, I mean, things are bone dry around here, over the summer, the shooting had grown to a point where it was daily.

These shooting events were now going from like maybe 100 rounds to like a few hundred rounds. Oh my god, from what I understand, almost pretty expensive. This was daily occurrences for days on end, and also the kinds of guns he was shooting weren't

just your normal like pop, pop, pop, they were like, fully auto, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop,

yeah, like some heavy duty hardware host stuff, yeah. And I think full auto is illegal in California. Yeah, there's no license you can have in California. I think that allows you to have anything like that. At this point, I'm avoiding this guy.

I was in school at the time. I was trying to study. It was interrupting my studying. I was kind of in my wits and with it, I am out in the yard one day spreading some gravel

“in the driveway, and I will never forget my wife was standing up on a patio, and we hear”

this enormous explosion down the hill immediately followed by another explosion. And I hear somebody screaming, oh, there's a massive column of black smoke that just rises up in the air. And I'm thinking, here we go. Yeah, he's now working in explosives.

He's a transition from small arms to sea for. I'm on it and to calfire my neighbor's next door standing out in his yard, looking at me like, whoa, what's going on, I'm on the phone with dispatch, trying to tell him what's going on. And there are just explosions going on to the background.

My wife and I go into action mode, you know, you've got the grab bag, you've got animals, the cash, the donkey, and all that list of things they've already had ready to go. Well, the one thing that we had to get was our husky. If you know anything about husky's, they've got their own agenda normally. And it tends to be the exact opposite of what you want in the moment.

And they like to get out and just roam, right? Yeah, they're kind of wild animals that hurt. Add some explosions on top of that, and she's like, no, sorry guys. So she's gone. Oh, I'm like, okay, what do we do here?

We have elderly neighbors, so I'm like, let's just go start letting people know. Because at this point, you're concerned the fire is going to take over your neighbor. Yeah, right up the hill. I mean, we are bone dry, peak fire season. We're in the hills.

This guy sits at the foot of the hill. But we drive down to the neighbor's house. We let him know, hey, so it's those houses on fire. And we're waiting around. We're just looking for the dog.

And at this point, they've got helicopters overhead, scouting it. They got spotter planes. They brought in the calfire bombers. So they jump on it. And I start seeing fire engines, I hear the sirens.

So I jumped down the hill and guiding them back down to the correct. House props to the local fire department, they jumped on it. I was so impressed with how much resource they sent to this thing to get on it right away. Because it could have been nasty, but it seemed like it got on it. It was limited to just the structure and the guy's house.

And nothing really blew up from there. But it was a very close call that we all kind of saw coming. I think from a mile away. I rode my quad down once things seemed to kind of stabilize. And I hopped on my ATV and rode down.

“And this big fire inspector guy sees me and he's like, are you the homeowner?”

And he starts walking out to me, I'm like, no man, I called you guys in. Like I live up the hill. He's like, well, he's found, like, I eat these in the roof. And apparently, they found some wild stuff in this guy's house. I haven't seen this guy since.

He has been a while.

Would you live still never seen the guy?

I have still not seen this guy. He disappeared. Did you guys ever learn from the fire investigators? If he had set off the explosion or if something self ignited in there? I never heard anything.

I never got any follow up on it. So I don't know if it's still like an active, they're like, looking into something. It was the house burnt to the ground. It was still standing. I sent a video and I think if you guys got that, it shows they're spraying down the upper

level of the house. It was completely burned to the bones. Oh, my God. It's still standing, but if you look at it, it's done for Mike. We've got the video.

Okay. We're going to watch it.

Oh, shit. I feel like a real news show. You too. Oh, yeah. This is a big scene.

“By the way, it's beautiful where you live.”

Thank you. Oh, it sounds like the end of the world with all the fucking goats. Bladding. Yeah. Probably 20 different fire engines.

They had two different planes on it. It was impressive watching how they went after it. You know, dying to know what this guy's isn't was. Max, I am right there with you. Maybe some schizophrenia with substance.

Yeah. I mean, it's been kind of following each other like that. So it's medication that's making it worse. Oh, wow. That is rough.

While a couple years, and then that problem kind of taken care of itself for me, I guess. Yeah. So it's kind of like a PSA to other people, like if you got that neighbor, don't worry. He'll blow his house up soon enough.

He might throw your house up, so you got to be aware of it.

Well, you never know what your neighbor has.

Like there was just that news story about the kid who inherited his dad's house. And he had like a brick a sea for it. Oh, really? Demo instructor. Yeah.

That was just like last week here in California. You never know what your neighbor's got. How's it? What is going on in these homes? You know?

I know. I also bet up there. There's a mix of some raw dog dudes. Yeah.

“There are definitely some people hiding out up here.”

Yeah. Yeah. That's a great way to say it. To the city that you know, you do have the professionals and stuff that come up here and just get away from it, but you've also got the other side of this.

Wow. Guys, try not to be sound. Yeah. Oh, well, Mike. This was delight.

Yeah. That was a good door. Thank you. Yeah.

It was fun to share with you guys.

And if I can just get my wife a quick shout out, she's the one that turned me on to the podcast and she's getting ready for work right now. Actually, so she wasn't able to hop in. What do we call her? We're going to have to call her a fake name.

Kathleen. Kathleen. Kathleen. They're sexy. Kathleen Turner.

You know, seductress. Great meat brawler. I love that story. Yeah. This was fun.

And send our love to your wife. Absolutely. We'll do. You'll take care. Be good, brother.

Bye. I liked him because he was a medical professional. Yeah. It was mixed messages. Yeah.

I liked that.

He was a medical professional and owned a quad.

Yeah. And it was a great story, teller. Yeah. And he was on top of it because he was helping the neighbors. Take care, he's going to get the old folks out.

Yeah. I did that during our fires, if you recall. That's nice. I went up to that really old gal. She was still walks.

We have a neighbor. She's so impressive. She's in her 90s, I think. And she walks home from the grocery store with her groceries. Oh, my God.

And I went over and I said, hey, how you doing? I just wanted to invite you to our house if it gets tricky or you mean. And she's like, oh, I'm good. Almost offended. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay, you're good. You're good. I thought maybe you saw my lady's ghost and you thought she was alive and real.

Your lady's gold. The lady who lived in my home before me. Oh, who died in your house? She didn't die in there. Yes, she didn't.

She didn't. I looked at her. Oh, my old house. There's a murder. Listen, I know.

But that's not what happened. Okay. I looked it up. She didn't die on the property. They have to disclose that.

Probably died in the hospital. Yeah. But she was a hundred and I thought maybe you went over there to check on her and she was there because she was a ghost. Oh, and she said, ghost can walk through flames.

I'll be fine. Yeah. That's right. Oh. I don't think she'll like this.

Are you inclined to like learn a lot about her? Yes. I thought many times, I guess, spoiler about doing a documentary that's me investigating her life and also the neighborhood. Oh, yeah.

That would be nice. Because you know, she was called the Queen of Lawson Park. Oh. And you don't know a lot about her other than that she died in your house. No.

Oh, do that. She's going to be mad at you for saying that she might haunt you. She's my friend. But she died in her house in the house, but also I'm sure she likes this for a vision of sister.

She's a truth to be told. Okay. We're on it. All right. I love you.

That's a truth.

“Do you want to sing a tune or something with a theme song?”

Oh. Okay. Great. [MUSIC PLAYING]