Armchair Anonymous: Wild Card XIII

We have a wild card number 13

Oh wow, I'm lucky number 13 A baker's dozen if you will a baker's D. Yes, if you prefer, please enjoy wild card Hello I noticed you have some indoor flora and that's really lovely tell me about that Thank you. This is my money tree. It's doing really well. Yeah very well They don't get that big tell me about a money tree

Oh god, I don't really know anything about it other than it's the name and that is ridiculous That you can take care of and then my spider plant questionable not doing so well You have a spider plant in a money tree. You only want flora that has a kind of different name

“Yes, maybe you should get a rubber tree too. I actually have one. No, you don't”

My dad gave it to me. Oh my goodness. Is it mature enough for you to harvest rubber from it? No, and definitely allergic to you so it sits in a jar in my window. It's happy. I'm not going to touch it Yeah, I just saw they do it. They just scrape a little tiny bit of the bark off and then they hang this little device at the end And then it just rubber pours out. It's so cool. Yeah, it is really cool. Where are you at? I am in New Brunswick, Canada. Oh Wonderful. We love our Canadian listeners. Thank you

Okay, so you have a wild card story. I do. I have a really weird kind of embarrassing story for you guys. It was wonderful. To set the scene, this was about six years ago

I was pretty heavily pregnant at the time with my first

I was about eight months pregnant almost ready to pop and intimacy at that point kind of hard to come by So I wanted to surprise my boyfriend when he got home from work

“And I kind of tried to set the scene dim some light slits and candles put on some music”

Put on something that made me feel a little bit sexy. He gets home from work and he's pretty excited and I'm pretty excited And then you know, although for a place stuff happens the usual and then we're getting an intimate on the couch Because my center of gravity is awful little. I need something to hold on to lean over the bedrooms Just not doing it for me Okay, though, but the couch is already a little too small for a bunch of activity for two adults

It worked perfectly. I mean, you just lean over the arm of the couch, right? He's behind me. It just worked out

Okay, great. So I'm leaning over the side of the couch and I hear I'm go. Oh my god. Oh my god And I'm thinking yeah, I'm doing great. I'm so hot everything's awesome I had my eyes closed just like totally feeling the moment and then I realize while my eyes are closed That I see this light in front of my eyes So I'm thinking oh shit somebody came into the room because at the time we were living in his mom's basement apartment

Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So we had the music on loud enough That somebody could have come in and we wouldn't have known it. Right. Yeah, plus you're in the heat of the moment You're distracted Exactly worst nightmare. I was terrified somebody had come in so I opened my eyes and I realized no the lights not on But there's a light right in front of my face. It took me a couple seconds and he's not moving anymore

I'm wondering what's going on and then I realized I had leaned over the candle And my hair. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. It was so bright that you noticed I'm in court. Oh, no. I'm shocked you didn't smell it instantly I'm too especially with like you know pregnant your sense of smell is just so heightened right But that part definitely comes into play

So I hopped off and I'm slapping myself on the side of the face repeatedly trying to get this fire out And I look over at my boyfriend and he's standing there just like naked and freed

“Steering at me. Oh god. It's like do something. Why are you not helping me?”

I think he was in shock honestly. So I get the fire out and then my Response to stressful situations is to just laugh. It's got me in trouble before All the time. It's embarrassing Sure. It's a great place for a laugh. I've had him right like it's so awkward So anyway, I'm like make it as the day I was born eight months pregnant hands on my knees

Just gasping for air just laughing. I couldn't stop laughing and this man's probably Question all his life choices being like why am I having a baby with this girl with a fucks going on She's crazy and that's when the smell hit me So just a preface. I am a nurse. I work in the operating room. I have smells burnt flesh Just smoke the crotic bowel the worst kind of infection you can imagine

Ooh, oh, oh, oh, oh hold on pause. Just hear those words fill in the blanks. Necrotic bowel

Necrosis. It's nasty. Do you have anything you put below your nose sometimes we use masks?

“It's all we'll just kind of dab it on to our masks. It smells like a tree. Like it smells really like a pine tree almost”

It smells really good, but I mean during pregnancy I couldn't use that so I just had to suffer and you're stuck to the smell You can't distance yourself from it. Oh, yeah, and it stays with you. You take that home. Okay So we're back in the downstairs basement. So once the smell hits me I, you know, at eight months pregnant was dealing with a lot of nausea It didn't agree with me and on top of all the smells that I've ever smelled in my career that one in that moment has to take the cake of the worst

Three in my life. I did not handle it well more than necrotic bowel It was the perfect storm of everything probably very heightened and exacerbated by your pregnancy, right? The price amount differently to you than than it would today exactly and I mean it's like right there. It's on the face. It's not going anywhere. I can't get away from it You so I started ganking and ganking and ganking and I couldn't stop and then I realized okay I'm getting to the point where something's gonna come out. So I ran to the bathroom sling in the bathroom door

Hit the floor make it just in time to throw up into the toilet and then after a few minutes of that I hear a gentle knock on the door in my boyfriend go Sarah. Are you okay?

“Yeah, I'm not okay. I just had the worst thing happen to me. I have a strange hunch you're not okay”

I saw that you were on fire and then now I hear you're throwing up violently, but I have a hunch you are you not okay? Definitely not okay I ended up hopping into the showers, shampooed my hair probably five or six times had a good cry but the fact that a big chunk of my hair was already feeling you're pretty as beautiful hair by the way Thankfully it's really long and thick so it hid really well. I didn't have to go to my hairdresser and

explain that to her. I ended up leaving the bathroom and going over to him and he stepped up in that moment after the fact and comforted me a little bit and I was thinking okay this is it like he's not going to touch me again until after this baby pops out or intimacy's done for months and then he goes I'm glad that you're okay so do you want to finish? Sure. Okay. And I'm glad that was a plus for you because I'm like I'm sure he's going to ask if he can finish. Well I said no. I went to can ask. Sure. That was a big adventure.

But you were relieved to hear he was still very interested. Yes. This is what we try to tell everyone is our PSA announcements like you're worried about how your bangs look you think you have one dot of cell you light somewhere. You're like the things you're obsessing about we still want to fuck if you're on fire and wreak and just threw up but you don't need to worry about it. Yeah after two kids have come to realize that he doesn't care. Yeah nothing can really stand in the way.

So you've had more than one now that was number one. Yeah that was number one and just about five

months ago we had our second. Oh congratulations. Thank you so much. Well I'm really glad you

didn't lose your whole mane. Oh that would have been tough. I would have been devastated. So you got it out by just patting it. Right? Like it would have been nice if you would have thrown me a glass of water or blanket over my head or something but no I was on my own so I just speed myself up a little. Oh man. Oh Sarah what a funny clumsy and really scary scenario. Yeah because here goes up quick but you can lose your whole hair in seconds. Yeah I learned that day. Sure does. Oh no guys cautionary

tale. Other PSA candles they're very dangerous people underestimate they smell good they're pretty before they bring down a lot of houses. You gotta be careful if you're going to be a candle owner. Definitely give me a healthy dose of pairing with you. They set a gram on fire on Thanksgiving that we know about. Sure did. Thank you for calling and also for being a nurse and helping everyone.

“We love our nurses. Oh thank you I'm so touched. Do you get foreign body up there in Canada?”

Foreign object and body? Oh yeah. Crazy as item you've seen. I haven't been lucky enough to scrub in all one of those yet but crazy as I've heard of is probably an apple or a remote.

We've just had an apple and it's always I fell. No you didn't. It's so sad they think that's convincing.

Nothing's plausible but that's the most plausible. Well no it's not. I know it's not plausible but in their mind what other option. Maybe just put it up there. I like him fun. I guess if you're coming into the operating room to get an apple taken out of your ass. I mean you just got to admit how you exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I'm with you. All right Sarah. Well enjoy your summer. Thank you so much. You guys as well. I appreciate it. Bye bye. Bye bye. Fire story is cautionary tale. Sex gone wrong.

Always have a fire extinguisher when you have sex. I used to have a fire extinguisher of my room. Much pop one under your bed. I'm like can't based on my bed frame. I know I don't like the fancy bed frames don't give you that gap. That's a useful bit of storage. It is. I don't really need storage

Okay emergency but all right. That can fit in the night stand. Okay. Hi. Hi. Your name is

“Shima. Is that an Irish name? What is that? No it's from North Africa. I'm from Algeria. Okay.”

Beautiful. So it is a Morish origin. It means like very beautiful. To simplify it. I love that. It's accurate. Yes. Thank you guys. So are you French? Yes I'm French. I'm from Paris. And you live there currently? Yes. Are you going to host Monica for dinner next week? Yeah I'm going to be in Paris in a couple weeks. For what event? Just play. You're going to enjoy it because the weather is going to be super nice next week. Oh, I know you're a fashion logo also. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Yeah I went from fashion. He's the fashion model. Why do you speak English so well? It's related to my story but there's two work in fashion. Oh I got to go. What have you stood up and went straight to LAx and flew to Paris today? Okay so you have a wild card story. We have no clue what it is. We have photos but we haven't looked at them so please tell us. So give you a bit of context. It was in 2007. I was 19 years old and a fashion student. So in Paris in a fashion school and our

homework were mainly swing close. It was late at night. I was swing and like a lot of people swing.

“I had the headpins in my mouth. Oh no. At some point I don't remember. It was really late. I”

coughed or sneezed. I don't know but I swore with it. You swore a bunch of pins? Yeah one. Go one pin. Oh no. That's horrible. Now is it a safety pin or just one of the pins that's just

straight with the little thing on the top? But the safety pin, this one, the then first one.

You know it's like a sewing needle probably. Yeah exactly. Yeah but just with the flat head. So I ran straight to my mom's room to wake her up and told her like I just swallowed a pin. I said okay let's go to the yard. To understand my mom is a doctor and like a few weeks earlier. Stony yeah you should stop doing that because it's quite dangerous. Yeah. So she takes me to the yard we arrive. We meet the night shift doctor there. So I got a bunch of exam and especially a

radiography to have an image of where you could be the pin. After that the doctor comes and she says okay

“we need to go there and you need to undress completely because I think the pin is on your body.”

You didn't swallow it. What? So I start to strip and she checks everything. She says yeah it's not in your digestive system. I don't see it. It's near the boob so it must be there and I'm like yeah I'm pretty sure I felt it but I listen okay and she finds nothing. She tells me okay you go home. It's some bread. If it's somewhere it will just pass through. The optimistic. I mean this doesn't seem like it might pass through. We go home on the right back that tell my mom that's

weird because when I breathe I can feel it. So I go home. I bread. I go to bed. Next morning I wake up. I go to the kitchen. I find my mom. I can see she didn't slip at all and she called the friend of her that's the surgeon and he came for breakfast after his night shift. The dude asked me like two questions. He looked at my mom and said it's in the lungs. Oh no. So my mom like her eyes lay up and she was like hey dress up as good as the yard. Oh my god. So we went back to the yard

and fortunately or unfortunately for the doctor the same doctor was there and my mom got so pissed at her. She was screaming. He didn't believe her. It's probably in her lung. She could have collapsed so they take other exam and it's in the lungs. So I didn't follow it. I inhaled it. Oh holy shit. Well what now? I wasn't made it for surgery. So I spent three days in the hospital. They had to do a bronchoscopy. What was fun is that every nurse that were taking me from a room to another

where old asked me where are you here and I was explaining as they were all loafing their ass off. Like what the fuck? And the Indians they took it out. They go in with a scope through your air wave in the air and lawn. Okay, they don't have to open up your skin or anything. Exactly. But everything went well. They gave me back the pin because already wrote things actually. I still

have it somewhere in my house. Oh my god, you could have gotten saps a million things could have gone

wrong. But definitely saps ass rusting. In the picture you can see the pin. I was actually very

Because if it was the opposite. I think I would have booked my long. Oh, here it is. Oh, really?

Oh, we're bad in looking at the other way. I thought it was going to be on the computer. So it was bigger. No, we're just not good at like understanding it. We'd be terrible radiologists because we did foreign objects in body last week, which this is a foreign object to body, but not

“in or not. No, rectum. Rectually. That's why I titled my story, actually, a foreign object in”

body, nothing but. Wow. Wow. Thank you. We didn't puncture anything. No, I got really lucky because I said like like for maybe 48 hours before they did surgery on me. And then after 3 days, it was okay. It didn't need antibiotics. Wow. Really? And then I went back to school. And so like

everyone knew, oh, when I arrived, I remember in my swing class, the teacher was Japanese with a

real big Japanese elections. Not speaking very good French and he saw me and he just said, you stupid. And that's it. That was a fun cultural stuff going on. Wow. Yeah, if you call the students stupid in this country, they'd be like, you'd go see the dean, there'd be a walk out. You'd be surprised in France. Yeah. Fashion is expensive on a lot levels. Oh, yeah. I could imagine maybe that's a common

thing in the sewing world. The tellers at the beginning, like, yeah, you have something to put the pin there, but like everyone puts it in the mouth. It's easier, like, to have, and sometimes I could

have like 10 pins in my mouth, which is stupid. I don't do it anymore. I do it with screws. When I'm

doing like wall anchors, I'll put all four or five hammering stuff. I'll put all the nails in my mouth. Maybe not anymore. Yeah, be careful. Yeah. I'll just make sure I breathe through my nose. Wow.

“Oh, my Lord. Well, I'm really glad you're okay. Yeah. In shame, are you listening to the show?”

Yes. In France, when did you discover it? Actually, it's a shout out to one of my best friends. He introduced me to the show. We do love a bookstoreies, so it's our favorites. Good, good, good. I actually listen to most American podcasts. You're on top of my list. I listen to you guys every week, so now I put a face on the voices I listen to. Oh, that's so funny. Yeah, we're flattered. Mary. All right. Well, say I'm on a conforme when you see your impairments. Oh, yeah. I hope so.

Well, this was lovely. Thank you, guys. Thank you for welcoming me in the show. And can I give you a final shoot out? Yes. Yes. It's to Michael work her Maria because she likes the show and she's also listening to it. She's from Spain. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love this. Well, thank you, J. You, J. Thank you so much, guys. All right. You're all right. Take care. Bye. I'm so charmed by the French accent. Just love because they're so cool there. They're listening to us. It's really exciting.

Look at the camera. It looks like a magic trick. Right. So there's this. Wait, what? I'm not noticing. Look at the camera. No, I'm sorry. Look at the screen. Oh. And then look at this. This is a it's a magic trick. Oh, there wasn't a good magic trick. But here's a magic trick. Oh, okay. Right. It looks like it just changed to green. Right. Now that was in a good magic trick.

“We hear comes a good magic trick. Okay. What? Oh, do you feel it? Um, I think that's a really”

good magic trick. Okay. Do it again. That one was better. It's a really good magic trick. I mean, it's so good at magic. Yeah, and you don't even like magic. But now I do. All required was you. I could be able to do it. Be able to do one trick. This is at a shocker. Do you? I don't like anything I can't do. That's great. I can't do it for idiots. Oh, if I can do it is for King's and heroes. Yeah, that's a good magic trick. Okay. Well, for the listener. Oh,

that's, I want to say that was really people saw the trick. It's just twisting. But it's so fast that on the camera. It does look like watch one more time. I'm the cutest little boy. Oh, you watch me jump. Watch me play. I'm the cutest little boy. I'm for me. Watch me play. Hello. Oh, Alex. I'm so envious of the denseness of your hair. You're a plumage. Thank you. I grew myself. You probably take it for granted, yeah. I think so. I have a lot of optionality when

I want to cut my hair. Take a plan though. Yeah, you could go long. Everything's on the table for you could even have a shaved head. I bet you would look great. I've done that before. I used to cut my hair in college and I made a lot of mistakes. I should have been off clean slate. Yeah. And how do you look at the shape? That's pretty good. I don't have to ask my wife. Okay.

skier? Yes. Good job, Monica. I finally did it. It's all right. That was an done it. But you're a

cross country skier. These are actually old vintage alpine geese from like the sport. You all back before you had rear bindings and people do that weird pure wedding thing. Even before that we're skiing was actually just used for transportation and not for pleasure or leisure. That sounds miserable actually because you're just like tracking. You're lucky to finish military at that point. Exactly. Where are you at Alex? I am in my home in Morrison, Colorado. Okay, great. We would hope it was an

alpine location with the ski thing. I'm originally from Ottawa, Canada, which is not notice. I moved here 13 years ago, strategic way to pursue a life of skiing. Yeah. Well, my life was skiing. And actually, there's a lot of this story is based around one of those experiences.

“Oh, wonderful. Wonderful. Okay. And you're liking Colorado. Did you marry an American?”

Married a Colorado. And we met in college in the United States, Montana.

Nice. It's a great skiing. Yeah. So the mountains have always been calling. Yeah, and it's a good

place, right? If you got to pick an American state in your from Canada, that's a pretty good transition. 100%. I first visited Colorado when I was 14. And it was one of those things I went home in my mom's like, I wasn't. I'm like, I'm going to move there. I'm going to live there one day. And I was one of those like pat on the head. That's really cute on it. Yeah. Yeah. I thought, you know what? It's gone out. Immigration who knows will make it. You did it. Okay. So you have a wild card story.

Please tell us. Yes. So this story is being pulled from the archives, which took place 26 years ago. And I'll preface this with the fact that it's not a tremendously fun story, but

“it's a two generation story of fate with a healthy dose of stimulation. We love it.”

Simulation. Simulation. Simulation theory. I was like, I'm on a wear of stimulation theory. But I can easily make some story. Yeah. So this takes place in November of 2000 in a small town called Caprune in Austria. And there's a ski glacier that are called Kit Steinhorn. But I was a sophomore at a ski racing academy in Vermont. And this is kind of where the

simulation starts. My mom went to that school and was in the first graduating class in 1976.

In Vermont or Austria in Vermont. And I was the first second generation student to attend that school. But for context, both of our graduating classes were six or less. There was about 60 kids in the school. This isn't a massive legacy high school where several generations attend. This school was regimented. We speeded December through April nearly every day between racing and training. And in the falls, we would play varsity soccer against other schools in Vermont.

But predominantly, we would spend August Rocktober in very scheduled heavy-dryland and weight training sessions in preparation for the ski season. Can I ask how you had enough students to assemble a soccer team? You need quite a few players for that. Everybody plays 60s enough. But through all the grades, right? His grade was only six. I know, but it's all the grades. Yeah, freshman's played on the same team as singers. Who is a collective? We weren't the strongest, but it was one of those

brackets that we had to play. But we do dryland training for the fall months. And I only tell you this, depending on the picture on how regimented things were. And scheduling was a huge focus. Once the dryland season was over, and of October, we would search for snow. And being in the East Coast, we'd usually find ourselves in Europe, in late October, early November. And then here in Colorado, and then November for training and some early season races and stuff. I got to ask a

“personal question in his probably shame and dozing, but your parents have to have money, right?”

This sounds hugely expensive to have your kid in the school. It's expensive. We had a lot of help from my grandparents. Oh, nice. That's nice. Very fortunate. So in 2000, our snow search took us to Austria, the slow town of Caprune. Our plan was to be there for two weeks before making back to the U.F. And then out to the Rockies. Now, Caprune is a small town in the solid bird province of the Austria now. So it's hugely

quintessential with overpowering snow with cowshit. But it had a ton of classic wooden structures, wooden strutters, all those things. So very picturesque. But we were going to be there for 12 days, training ton of those days. Given we were a bunch of high schoolers, some more on hinge. And unpredictable than others, we were on a tight schedule that I was talking about. They kept tabs on all of us. But our daily schedule would be consistent. We could have us have a 30.

We'd go for a quick jog or warm up. We'd have breakfast and then we'd grab all our gear,

vernacular train, which took us up to the base of the ski area. And for those who don't know what a vernacular is, it's a really steep train that goes through a cutout tunnel into the mountain to the base of the glacier. So we're two and a half miles in a tunnel before opening up and

being at the base where all the lodges are. So we've followed this schedule for the first four days.

It was intended for us to follow that fifth day, November 11th, our last day of training before our first day off. This is when the doctor struck. Thinking back, using my high school memory,

“we had lost power at the hotel, which reset all the clocks in the hotel. So if you remember,”

no cell phones, no alarm clocks to maintain that schedule. So our coach who worked as that early, and we deviated from that schedule. But for us, I mean, it felt like a normal day. We woke up, warm up eight vans and base of the mountain. We got there for the first train, which is at eight o'clock. We reached the base of the glacier and it was a beautiful day. There

were no clouds bright blue sky. For those that are seeing through the fresh brooms, frail and

anything was like ready for us. And it felt like really only once there. It was predominantly service by T-bars. So we were expected to be on those T-bars as tuned as we had all of our gear on it. Our coaches would go up and start studying the courses in the training for the day. We should probably explain a T-bar because I don't think people who haven't skied understand what that is.

“It's a lift that, I mean, honestly, it looks like an upside down T, and it goes behind your butt,”

and the cable just pulls you up. It's like being on a tow rope, but you don't have one of the tows. You're not leaning on this bracket. And the thing with T-bars is you know, if you've been on them, sometimes you fall or it gets caught in your clothes. And if that happens, you fall and you get dragged up the mountain until the T-bar stops by the operator. And you can rest that.

So my friend, I run the T-bar, probably on our second or third warm-up run. And this is around nine

o'clock, and this is when the T-bar stopped abruptly. And again, we thought someone had fallen, but 10 minutes had gone by, which started to feel a little bit too long. So we started commenting on how, you know, the lift you probably need to go get a shot of stops, or whatever it was, then brings some levity to it back. We haven't moved in a while, but this is when our coaches started skiing down every single occupied T-bar, asking everyone to grab their stuff and head to

the base. This is when we turned around and got off. And we saw a large black plume of smoke in the air coming from the train area with flames shooting out of the building. What? The black smoke was such a contrast to the blue sky. And the air began to smell like burnt plastics. The 9 o'clock train was the one of our scheduled to be on that day. It had malfunctioned in the tunnel, causing the two trains to emergency stop inside the tunnel and sparking a fire that

engulfed both trains and the entire tunnel. My god. An emergency exit door at the top of the tunnel had been left open. So the wind tunnel affects fuel deflames, putting everything and everyone in the tunnel in an uncontrollable inferno. Holy shit. There were 161 people trapped who died that day. Well, people ended up escaping. In the last train, they broke a window and escaped down below the fire and the smoke towards the base of the train. At this point in our lives,

everyone knows cell phones, especially for high school kids. We had no way of checking in with or contacting our parents in live time and given a time difference between Austria and Eastern U.S., our parents woke up to breaking world news of a train that had fire at the glacier. We were at killing every passenger. I can't believe. I can't believe I'm here. I made. Oh my god. Also,

“only 12 out of 172 people. That's why it took us several hours to evacuate the”

ski area, which was done using one large tram. That wasn't in service for the last year. So we did one tram at a time. They wanted to make sure the cables were healthy enough. So they didn't overload these tram. So it took us a long time. And while we waited, this is when we started to see body bags being pulled from the top of the train station. Medical helicopters doing the rounds consistently and was loud and it was chaotic, which was a polarizing experience to the environment that we

ash. Because while we were skiing, he was tending to a broken boot and he was sitting on a bench

“facing the sliding doors to the tunnel. When the initial bursts of smoke and flames came up into”

the tunnel, he ended up being lying in unscathed. But he reminded me of the boy and the original Mary Poppins that stuck his face into the tunnel. So it kind of looked like that lasted by set. But what I'm told are parents called the school in a frenzy as parents would. And then we told they thought we were okay. And it wasn't before we got back to the hotel that we were able to call our parents and do the wellness check. Nothing that we were fine. And to your point earlier,

Monica, you know, as a parent now, I've two girls, seven or 11. I can't even imagine the type of terrifying anxiety or worry that our parents felt while they waited for a call. Yeah. There is a true nightmare. I hate to bring levity to it. But I will say, when you finally called your parents, that would have been an ideal time to also unload some secret you had. Sure. Like I made it also. I'm the one who crashed the car and the garage and I didn't say anything. Anything you

and said he wanted to give him a shit about at that point. I figured I might have been 15 years old. I didn't have that for us. If I could go back in time, I likely would have confessed to

“some things. Did you think about it a lot after? Yeah, I mean, I think about it often. We've got”

lots of tunnels here in Colorado and in tunnels now these days still. It's one of those things

where I'm always looking for the exit doors and it's just one of those traumas that have stayed.

There was a vernacular accident in Austria recently again, right? I hadn't heard that, but that would be really unfortunate. Because we were there a few summers ago. By the way, we were in that area and then we also took one up in a little town called Halstead and there's a big vernacular. And yeah, every time you're on them, you're like, I guess this works. You know, you're at like a 45 degree angle. Yeah. And you're so deep. And it's just a straight shot down

amount and you're like, oh no, but the brakes will deploy. But it's always a little hairy those things. Certainly. So whatever it happened that night before, whatever it prompted our coaches to wake us up earlier and we start the day earlier. I mean, we were scheduled to be on that train.

That's a slice of fate. But here's where the situation comes back. So in June of 1975, during

my mom's junior year at the same school, due to returning to the east coast from a ski training camp at Mount Hood with the U.S. ski team, her flight from Portland had mechanical issues and was delayed. She was intended to go from Portland to Chicago, Chicago, JFK, and that up to Montreal, where my grandparents would pick her up. But because of that delay, she missed that connecting flight in Chicago by minutes. The plane was still there, but the doors were shut kind of thing.

That flight from Chicago to JFK ended up hitting a massive micro burst in the final approach and the plane crashed, killing the passengers on that. Stop it. That is impossible. Oh, you're knocking. Yeah, knock on wood for sure. That is crazy. Yeah, my mom reminded me of that story when I told her

“I was going to come on and speak with you both. Do you remember that whole plane thing?”

That was when I was at that school, too, and I was like, you know what, if anyone's going to appreciate this simulation, it's the issue of something. Yeah, you two are the luckiest people alive. Obvious thought is you're not going to now send one of your kids that's good or you guys need to like dodge. Okay, well, I'm not gonna win, but they'd be okay. But you wouldn't be causing some other thing. Yeah, you might be sentencing some people to tread. Oh, yeah. Wow. That was wild. Wild

car. Lift up to its name, wild car. Have you been back there? Not to that glacier. No, but I've been back to Austria before. I love Austria. It's such a beautiful country. You feel like you're in a storybook the whole time. For sure, both my girls ski now, and they're starting to do their thing with that. And my goal is to get them over to the Alps at some point, or the Dalamites, and have them skiing there and just put them to see it. I know that my youngest

wolf, the hell, it looks like the pound from frozen. They tell people in Haulstead that the town of Irendale was modeled after it. Oh, was it? It wasn't, but they say that. That's like the war there, but it's actually not true. But yes, it does look very much like Irendale from frozen. Did the schemes stay fun for you? Did sounds so regimented. I'm wondering, was it fun throughout all that? It must've been because you stuck with it. I love the sport. So I actually

I've skied through high school, and then took two years off and skied full time, and then I went to college in Montana, where I met my wife, feeding college. It was a great sport, very fortunate to have experienced everything that I did. And if my kids want to, that's great. But it's one of those things where I just wanted to be fun for them. I want this story years or not to be, well, we just skied. That's just kind of what we did. And I do want them to be better than their

spouses. Yeah, that's fair. And that's a healthy bar. You can hit that target just fine.

It's okay. My wife is here as well. Yes, ring her in. I want to see her the thickness of her hair.

Let's see if this kids got. She's got to get her to my wife Lauren. So she introduced me to

“I'm chair. She is a day one. Listen, I remember the first episode we listened to was your first”

meeting with Michael Paul and it was fascinating. And I became her ever since. So you're our road

trip buddies, our blonde commute buddies, weekends up to the mountains buddies. So we're with you guys all the time. Hello. This is a small last call. Yeah, let's get. I want to go look at you. Yeah,

“great hair, everybody. Thank you. And great teeth in this. And what else? And when did you start skiing?”

Well, I skied when I was 14 and then started snowboarding. A couple of years later and

it was crazy that she dated a snowboarder because everyone's like, it's very incestiously all day to each other. But I broke the mold. And now I'm skiing again because we have kids at it sucks.

“I switched two years ago from snowboarding after 40 years of it back to skiing. It's so much easier.”

Sorry, Alex. Not to be great. It's like you're not fucking unstrapping and strapping back. And you can be on flat ground. You don't care. Yeah, it hurts a lot less and it's easier on our aging buddies. Yeah. Well, it's so nice to be here. Very nice to be both you. Yeah, it was well. This has been so fun. Thanks for sharing the time and Dax your chair looks a lot more comfortable than I pictured people get worried because it's not a proper lazy boy, but it's funny comfortable.

Mine's only okay if I'm being honest. Okay. I could add a little cushion back here. Yeah, I'll cushion. All right, y'all. We'll have a great summer up there. I hope it's a beautiful one for you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Well, well, it's wild. Love you. That was wild and cardy. Do you want to sing a tune or something with you? Okay, great.