80s Soundtrack Hall of Fame with Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan

♪ What's with this band anyway ♪ ♪ I don't get it, can you please explain ♪ ♪ Wait, like band's playing ♪

♪ Never heard this band in my life ♪

♪ Oh, you haven't, let's look out really wide ♪ ♪ Yeah, I love this song ♪ ♪ Oh, I don't know that one ♪ ♪ Fan's playing, fan's playing ♪

“♪ Fan's playing, I really think it's cool ♪”

♪ Whatever, I'm their biggest fan ♪ ♪ Fan's playing, fan's playing ♪ ♪ Fan's playing, fan's playing ♪ ♪ Fan's playing ♪ - Hello and welcome to Band's Plane.

I am your host, Yasi Salif. This is usually a show where I invite an expert guest on to help me explain a cult band or iconic artist. Today's episode is a little different. As today, we are creating the band-splane 80s soundtracks

Hall of Fame. And I'm joined by two men, two princes, if you will, no spend doctors. But also yes, spend doctors. Sean, fantasy, and Chris Ryan.

Welcome to the program. - Hi. - Can you guys believe it? - Thanks for having me. - In the midst of CRM of the way the waning days. - Fresh off interviewing Stephen Spielberg,

these people have downgraded to come here to band-splane. - It's not true. - It's not true. - Well, this will this be released during CRM? - This will be released in two days.

- Wow, a quick turnaround for you. - Yeah, I know. - How can I screw this up so that's not the case? - We wanted to capitalize on the momentum of CRM. - Dozens.

- You haven't vocally disavowed the Naziism of the germs yet. - Yeah, I am. - I'm happy to do some right now. Do not support any Nazi adjacent content, period. - But the direct content is okay.

- No, not a fan of that either, but I hope that there is a lot of things.

- Well, you can never be too safe as what I've learned.

- It's a good point.

“- You guys are excited to do this particular thing?”

- Yes, what are we doing? - We're drafting, we're making a haul of things for 1980. - No, I am totally into the introduction. - But why?

- Yeah, why? - We're doing this because I need content. (laughs) 'Cause I can't do it fully. I mean, literally, because I'm only one woman.

And also, we've done a lot of drafts. And I was like, what could we do that's not a draft? And then I looked to my great light, the big picture podcast. And I was like, oh, these are fun.

These haul of fames. And I initially thought we would do the thing that you guys do on the haul of famed episode, which we went through every single soundtrack released in the '80s.

And then Chris Ryan, Lazy, was like, no, I don't wanna do that. - No, I just thought it would just be a tighter, more entertaining show for our listeners, if we argued about some things that we brought to the table. - I thought it was very funny.

Actually, that you framed that that way, that you framed it both as argument and fighting

“when you presented it, 'cause that's not how I thought about it,”

but I'm interested in our different approaches. I actually brought more than 10, because the haul of famed will be 10. And I was hoping you could guide and help me. - Mm-hmm.

- So this is sort of like-- - And together, you're running the Kennedy Center now. - And we're kind of helping you, you know, configure it the way-- - Well, it is the band's playing '80s track. - Oh, okay, for sure.

- However, I need your, I need to work in this together. I feel like we need to-- - Can we go back one step to-- - Sure. - Why the '80s?

- Well, I didn't. I wanted to start when soundtracks kind of started to like really pop off. - Okay. - I know there are some good '70s soundtracks

of his famous shaft and Saturday night fever and stuff. - That's not really Bionne's, Plamey, and we will be doing episodes about each of the 10. - Really?

- Yes. - That was that a line, did I not tell you that? - I didn't do that. - That was a little too long. - I didn't do that.

- So I feel like you were hiding the ball there. That's really the takeaway is that this is almost like in like the kickoff of a new theme for you. - So a new concept? - We've done soundtracks before.

- Right, you came on. - Using it like, first of all, I'm like honored and move that you would do such a weird thing of like crafting an introductory episode to an idea and then extending that idea over seven weeks.

- We've done soundtracks. - So I love to know, yes. - You know, have you heard what's about Stockholm syndrome? (laughs)

- Well, I think I'm on my side. - No, when you're in the room. - No, when you're in the room. - No, I like, Marc Bannis Bann. Are you ready for this?

- No, no, no, no. Pump, pump, pump, that's me. I'm here, I'm wearing a sports jersey. - Have you watched any March Madness basketball? - Yes, this one, I didn't, I'm not aware of what's happening

in that sector of the world. I think that go then though. - You have been unfairly characterizing much of your own ideas as things that you have been forced to do as though you're like that.

- I always want to get funniest things

is getting lastowed into one of these projects with you

if I must order things and rank them.

- Did I say that? All I said was that I have adjusted. - I have acclimated, I have evolved into my new homens circumstances, happily, gracefully, gratefully, with great enthusiasm and joy actually.

- There is a time when we would be on week six of recording Jimmy Brown. - That's what I'm saying. So everyone has grown and learned. - Tom Higgs narrating episode 21.

- Yes. - Ken Burns presents Bans plain presents Jimmy Brown. - Exactly, so, you know, I'm just, I'm happy, I'm happy to be here. - You're thriving and I love the idea.

- I think it's gonna be fun, no? - Yes. - I wanted to set the table at all before we start.

“This is also, I think I learned from you,”

just to put the parameters and I personally decided since these are gonna be Bans plain episodes, scores are not eligible because that is a boring episode for specologists, people who make scores, although obviously many fine scores

and they these gorgeous things, pedal juice, last emperor. - Last emperor?

- I mean, they are more commonly as functions, you know?

- There you go. - Yeah, that's quite a few. - Good stuff. - What about the mission? - Sure.

- A homeboy, the making work film, has a original score by Eric Lapton. - Haven't seen that. - Okay. - Homeboy.

- Yeah, I didn't know about, I learned about so many movies, doing this research as actually really excited about. And I want to talk about them, perhaps not as part of the Hall of Fame,

but maybe as some on-roll. - You could do, you could do like, I'll catch an up with all the movies that we didn't talk about episode, if you were still looking for content deep August, you know?

- What did I say to you guys? - You were built in the lab to make podcasts 'cause the way your brains,

“I think, do you think you've rewired your neural pathways”

at this point that like, well, the funny thing is that you're done at my main outlet for podcasting, it does not really employ any of these things. - Right.

- So you have just a pure marketplace of ideas. - Very valuable advice. - It's like a bizarre that people come to and they select what items they want. - How would you describe the men that come to that bizarre?

- To listen to the watch? - I think we have a thriving female. - Have you ever tried the actual numbers? - No. - Okay, so you're just assuming on vibes.

- I have. - And of the watches? - Yeah. - I wouldn't share that, you know. - Yeah, but yeah.

- You're welcome too. - Who do you think has more male percentage ratio of male listeners bands later the watch? - I think it's a neck and necklaces. - Yes.

(laughing) - And we love you. Keep coming back. - I had a couple of procedural questions about. Like not even procedural,

but like kind of like philosophical questions about them. - I can't tell you the end of the rules. - First. - Okay, the other ones are, I did not, I'm not allowing documentaries.

- Mm-hmm. - Or musicals. - Original musicals, 'cause that's cheating. I feel like, okay. - Okay, little shop of her.

- Gotcha. - Like two box, there's like streets of fine. - What about a movie about you? - Might not have for whatever. - A spinal tab.

- That's right. - Those are kind of movies that have music. - Yeah, we're a fungent. - A little, but I think that's, and no concert films.

- Okay. - Okay. - Okay. - The talking head's concert films from this year. - Right.

- Right on home. - Yeah. - Right on home also. And this is very sad for me because an American tell by little is really important

to my childhood, but we will not be thinking at all. - Okay. - Or Urg, a music war. - Do you feel like, as a group,

as people who are curating this list for bands by listeners? - Yeah. - We should be going for films or soundtracks that rep the 80s or 80s movie soundtracks

that are just great. - I'm so glad you asked this question 'cause I was like opening a table set on our value system. - Yes.

- For me, what is meaningful to me is representation or representation matters is what I'm saying. But no, that's kind of what I was looking at. But then obviously still some other things

get through that are just great but they also still have some representation.

So the answer is just go with your heart.

- Okay. - I have one more. I mean, I could probably pin this to one of my selections or one of my suggestions. Would you rather I do that?

- I don't know. - There's no question for you guys. How much does one song power soundtrack? - It's great, that's a great question because it's like, did you ever know

that you're in my hero? - I didn't know. - That's nice, I would want to. - That's from for the boys. - Beaches.

- Beaches, okay? What's the song from for the boys with that mid-lear? Different bed mid-lear, maybe I know. - For me, when I was looking,

I was like, that's not enough for me. That's how I felt. I was like, there's some soundtrack that just have a god tier one song. - That's what I'm saying.

- Like shaped culture. But then the rest of the soundtrack is like mid to ignorable.

“And I was like, that's because kind of how I think about it”

and maybe this is incorrect or maybe it's not about being

Soundtracks were portals to discovery. Like, it's gonna be hard because we're not really talking about how the music appeared in the film. We're talking about how you could buy this CD and go home and be like, "Wow, now we have a new order song

"and I'm gonna say it like first song."

- I think so. - Obviously, some of it's gonna be tied emotionally to how this song was appeared in the film. That's, you know, you can't get around that. But that's just my take on that.

“- I mean, I think it's also probably important”

to note that there are tools of synergy and the rise of conglomerations of major media corporations. Like when universal and Sony and all of these companies started taking sort of becoming not just about making one type of media.

- Right. - That thing. - That's kind of a squeeze. - Well, they would say we have bands on Columbia. And we have this Sony film.

How do we make, like, make like so that we can make more money? And a lot of these things that we venerate for obvious artistic reasons are just the product, especially in these cases of like, well, this was convenient

'cause these guys were on the label. - Yeah, I think some of them. And then some of them are like autores who really deeply care about music. - Yeah, I mean, to Sean's point,

there's also examples of the soundtracks leading the way for the movie, you know, like the soundtrack being so popular that the movie gets a longer window as a second life people are like,

I'm amazing example of that.

I feel like me and you will have a overlap. - Well, we almost wore the same shirt today. - I know. - Really? - My black and white shirt was in the wash though.

- Yes, me and Chris had a best friend night on Saturday in which she went. - She went. - She went calling at that. We went to go see Angel Dust, best friend night. - You guys went to a concert?

- Why isn't it a best friend night? - But I just, I thought it was interesting

“'cause I think I can't remember where you...”

- She was this when we went to Boston. I was like, oh, we're best friends now. - Yeah. - We just together, non-stop. And then I was like, oh, it's so sad.

I'm miss having our best friend time. And then I was like, oh, let's go to this show and it's the best friend night. And we had dinner and went to a hardcore show. - You know, because it is CR month,

there's been like a real like, no, but CR is my best friend thing going on. We just had a very funny example of it yesterday on the rewatchables with Bill and Andy and myself.

And you know, this is like a spell

that Chris lays upon men and women, you know, or he just, he just like, he lures you in. And he's like, come spend three days with me in an Eastern seaboard town. And then you'll think we're really close.

- That's not, what are you talking about? - We've been really close for decades. - That's not what we're not really close. It's really hurt, well, that's an, I don't have the wool over man.

It's like, I know that Chris Ryan is out in these streets pulling, friendship wise, okay, I know that I'm not number one on the best fried policy. - I'm just trying to say protect your heart. That's all I'm saying.

- I think you're still alive land in your best friendless. Am I like, fat number five? - Your, your high up there right now. - Yeah. - I've kept my circle extremely tight in my forties.

So, and I feel good about that. - The back is broken to number five. I feel pretty good about it. - You're just, you are present. And I appreciate that.

- It's not, not everyone is present. - The exact, and Amanda. - My daughter. - And your daughter. - Yeah, that's pretty much it.

- No, I have a great many friends, but not many that I see all the time. - Okay. Anyway, so we bought the same merch shirt. - You liter this shirt is from the show.

- No, it's a shirt. - That shirt. - Oh, that shirt is a shirt. - How was the show? - Good, really good.

Really good. - Wow. - Yeah, that's great. - And then nothing else, that's it. Two of the elite cultural commentators.

- It was actually-- - It was actually-- - We checked out Angel dusts, called to the touch. And if you like it, get ready. Because Yassie's got the singer from Angel dust justice trip

caught a future episode of band's play. - Sure do. - Oh. - We'd also Chris is going to be on, but I don't think it's going to make it into Ciarma.

- Okay, you guys are just alley-uping each other here. This is really something. - Do you go left out? - This is a common feeling. - It's a common feeling.

- Is it common to people go on a trip together? (both laughing) - The vacation? - Yeah, it happens. What can you do?

- Well, I'm so thrilled to do this with you guys. - Thanks for inviting us. - If I haven't mentioned it. - I still don't really know how this is going to work, but I'm going to roll with it.

- I don't either. - And I knew how I was going to work when we went through every single, sounds like I'd ever come out. And now maybe we go around and each nominate one at a time. - Okay.

- That's a great litigate. - And then we can still do your colored card system that you do on. - If you'd like, it's up to you. I find that you're using red yellow green.

- Yes. - I feel like that's a nice, 'cause I actually kind of have like 15. So I, you know, - Sure.

- And then you think maybe at the beginning, it's kind of like must-have. - That's what I was thinking. - Okay. - These are essentially medium greens.

- And then it's like, "Oh, I can make a case for this." And then it might just be like, probably not going to go with me on it, but I got to say this one.

- Okay.

“- I think we have to start with purple rain.”

- I don't know what I'm saying. - That's the greenest of greens, even though it's purple. I did not know whether you felt like this broke any of your self-imposed rules of whether it's like a musical or a performant,

But if you were making a list of just albums of the 80s, I think purple rain probably not. - I just think purple rain transcends category. - Okay. - Did you think?

- You've never done prints on bed's wing.

- Oh, oh, you've never done prints on bed's wing. You've never taken six months of your life to research the career of one of the greatest artists of all time. No Chris, I haven't.

Things were winning at all.

“- It sounds like he said you should get your shit together.”

- I just meant that as like correct me if I'm wrong, and I don't think you've done it. And I think that would be cool if you did, but don't stress yourself. - I feel a little not equipped to it

because I feel like one of the major parts of Princess's musicality and famously, I don't understand. - It's a couple of no, like print scholars are intimidating. - Yeah. - And they're like actually it's the lost tape

from the recording of Raspberry Bay that it features the B-side that has like a mandolin on it, and it's tuned down or whatever, I don't know what that means. But I'll get a taste of it. This is a good place to tease a forthcoming Madonna month

in May, up like a taste of the deeply knowledgeable and passionate fan base.

- Isn't Rob Harville a huge print fan?

- I wouldn't make sense. - I think he is, and I don't know that he's a scholar and I know that what you're talking about, there's a certain type of person. - Yeah, there's like that.

- That out of light, like I wrote a book. - Did it was in Maros, do a podcast about Prince? - Who? - Was it Maros? - He had a podcast called Do Like Prince Movies,

which I think touched on Prince, but it was also a marketplace of ideas to style shit. - Yeah, yeah. - Okay.

“- You ripped that show off, is it what you're saying?”

- No, I was just saying it's like a chat show. I said him an Alex Babich. - Wow, novel. - Yeah. - Well, I mean purple ring, those crazy.

I really like Prince, I love his music. I like this movie a lot too. I don't know the history of the soundtrack versus the film,

or the song's written specifically for the film.

- I actually don't know either. I assume that he was getting so big that they were like, "We gotta make a movie with this guy." And then he was like, "Just so happens, I have 10 of the songs ever written."

So let's play Darling Nikki, you know? - Yeah, I kind of think that is what happened to. I actually didn't dive into it, 'cause I figured one of us would know, but it's not a musical.

They're not songs that are like, - Tell her they're in plot or whatever. - Yeah. - Do you have a favorite purple ring song that isn't Doug's cry of purple ring?

And let's go crazy. - They're all pretty special, computer blue. Like, I, so I just read that after the success of 1999, he went to his manager and said, "I must be the star of a studio movie."

Like, I want to be a Hollywood movie. And so that's where this came from. But it's a little unclear to me that this was like, an album that was already going. And they found a way to bend it around it

or what specifically it's fascinating. I mean, you know, famously, like, not a very long album.

“What's the last, almost every song is featured in the film?”

- Yeah. - It's the last pop star who's tried to do something like this. He's like, that, like, I'm gonna make a movie. - Or I'm the via the star. - And there's...

- And Robbie Williams just did it. - Oh, yeah, I guess it's right there, Jim. - But, yeah, but didn't he include its songs from his, like, past, like his over... He didn't write a original song for the film.

That's a really good question. I'm sure there's got to be one in the last 15 years. - Maybe cool if, like, the deftones did this. - Yeah. - Deftones?

- Yeah, and you weren't there. - Like, there was, like, a movie, like, 'cause, like, the thing is, like, princess of princess. He's, like, up and coming, right? - Oh, what about eight mile?

- There's not, there's not a whole album of original songs. - Is that all right? - There are a lot of songs in the soundtrack and he's on M&M's on a few of them, but it's not an M&M album.

- That's great to hear. - I feel like it came out very shortly after the Marshall Madder's LP, so it was sort of, like, I don't know, he's crushing too, oh, too, yeah. Or maybe it's, maybe around the M&M show,

like, he already had, like, albums kind of in the mix, but, and that sounds like still sold really well. But that, that is different too. It's a really good question. I'm trying to think of an example of an artist

who wrote songs for an album and then made that part of the spine of a movie that they started. - If I had a terminal disease, then I had to make a wish.

- Okay, like, make a wish, punish us. - It would be for you to do M&M on bands playing. (laughs) - Could do. - And for you to have to, like, read long stretches

of M&M lyrics. - And that would be actually a really fun. - What are your thoughts on M&M? - I actually love M&M. I was at the Burger Shack down the Hill

from my house the other day picking up which is Burger and some fries, and they, while I was waiting, they played music videos on the thing and they were playing the real-sum shady video,

and I was like, we used to be a proper country. - Special time. - No, make this shit anymore. I also saw M&M perform very early on at a warp tour. He was on an early warp tour and he got boot off stage.

They pelting him with water bottles, they hated him. It was when just real subchated, he had come out.

and it was like the complete wrong environment. I think, oh, you would think it would make sense but he hadn't, like, broken through yet. I think part of it was 'cause they didn't know how to market him and they thought because he was a white rapper,

like maybe he was gonna be able to get in on that, like, skate punk, rap rock crowd, but it really, like, more real rap fans like him. - Yeah. - But like, body count played the same warp tour

and it was welcomed with, oh, that's like a metal band, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I'm just saying, yeah, I was gonna... - I like him too.

I mean, I don't really any more, but I did a lot for first five or six years.

“- It's like, here's the thing, man, I forgot that thing.”

- Please don't die your facial expression. (laughing)

It's just never, it's not looking the way you think

it's gonna look. That's my PSA. - Have you considered that? - No. - You've been dying years for years.

- Are you not, I mean, I didn't know you with hair, but are you not kind of blonde anyways? Are you not afraid? - Right, it's better. - Red blonde, yeah.

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Just imagine if you die, yeah, yeah, yeah. They'll look at all of our score. You look like a love score. It's not very nice.

- It's just not because he looks like a leopard gun, just anyone with a red beard kind of looks like a leopard gun. That's a hallmark of a lot. - 19 bands play listeners, just like unfollows. - You know that you were a red bearded listener out there?

- I'm sure I have multiple red bearded listeners out there, and you can't keep doing your band. - So I picked one, that's green. - Okay, yeah, good job, Ben Rock. - This is not 1980s, but I do think the Ramones

for Rock and the High School is like the closest you can get to the purple rain thing. - Oh, that's like a pick. - That's really good. - That's probably, I'm sure there's others, but.

- Okay, purple rain is a must. - Yes.

“- Similarly, I think, do the right thing as a must.”

And kind of an interesting one where it seems like at first, all you can hear is fight the power famously in that opening credit scene, and that wasn't the introduction of public enemy, but like public enemy being

forcibly shown at a wider pop culture that maybe wasn't paying attention to hip hop to that point. But then also like, you know, EU and steel pulse and Teddy Riley and Guy and all of those acts are all on that album.

- Yeah. - And the Ruben Blade song is last on that record. - Yeah, Al Dr. Rowe, like there's a bunch of mostly R and B songs on the album. And you know, there's obviously a DJ at the Sam Jackson

character who's kind of communicating throughout the day with music to the people of the community. - Yeah. - And I think it's like one of the three or four

most important moments in the mainstream

ification of rap music in America. So... - No, I don't like a little push back. - Okay, push back. - Oh.

- Okay, hear me out. - Yeah. - Wild stuff. I kind of feel like it's a better hip hop soundtrack. - More.

“- But is that the, it's that what we're talking about?”

- Yeah, I mean, it's a better sound. Do you not think it's a better soundtrack? - And this raises an interesting question that we don't really have an answer for what we do the halls of fame on the big picture,

which is, is it important? Is it impact? - This is like impact. - Is it personal taste in terms of quality? I think it's all up for discussion, obviously.

But in terms of like seismic impact, I would say fight the power is a much more culturally significant song. - It's kind of like what Chris said though. It's just the one song.

- Maybe. - Yeah, I mean, what is it? - I mean, there are other tracks that lead me to track on this. But I also think that the importance of like, fight the power being used or the opening credits

in a way that was so rooted in music video culture at that time, if not like the editing style, but the idea of signing your document

like in the first minutes with like a battle cry song

and like a really beautiful piece of choreography is like very distinctively 80s and coming out of like the power of MTV. At that moment, I think it's green. But if you feel like, I mean,

you could say wild style if you want it and we could put that as screen area like that. - Well, the weird thing about it is, I think if you were talking about it, the quality of a hip hop album soundtrack,

I would go crush groove over wild style. - Wild style, so crush groove. - 'Cause crush groove is like in the mid 80s in that synthesis moment where we're kind of moving beyond Kramaster Flash and Mellie Mel

and kind of going towards like L. Cool J, Rundium C, Easty Boys. - Yeah. - And you also have Shaka Khan, Shila E. - Yeah, I mean, and just song for song.

- That was. - I prefer crush groove if you're talking about those early films. - You know, song for song. - I would probably almost go tough with the leather.

- That's true, that is a soundtrack. I guess I don't think of it like a soundtrack. - It has a memory on it and beats the rhyme. - Yeah, you wanna limit this to one rap. - I think so.

- Well, only because not because that, you know,

to tackle a rap album is probably gonna be difficult.

- Let's give it a heal up. - Well, what would you most like to spend time breaking down? - Probably wild style. My argument for wild style is more

that like it launched like a thousand ships like massive. The members of massive attack heard wild style or saw wild style and were exposed to this music and like it changed their lives and how they approached, you know, DJing and then ended up splintering off

all these genres.

“I think it's just an important cultural moment”

for the early spread of hip hop. Whereas like I totally got what you're saying about by the power, it's like so iconic. - Yeah. - 'Cause it's just two different things, right?

- Yeah, it's an age thing too. It's like I don't, I don't remember the most of the wild style. - I didn't listen to the fight.

- I wasn't born when it didn't.

- I didn't experience it in my life. I'm just trying to imagine what, like what if you picked up the CD, what have changed your life in a different way? - Yeah, I've thought about this a little bit 'cause there's in the 70s, there's a great example of this

and in the 80s, there's a great one too. But there are sound trucks that are going back to the 1950s but in the sort of like origins of rock and roll. And you don't find a lot of people that go back to the origins of rock and roll these days

where they listen to like 50s, where they'm in blues or do up even though those sounds are so instrumental to the beetles, or the eagles, or whatever like evolution of rock and roll, it comes in the next few decades.

Gremester Caz is kind of like that with the 50s where it's like, there is no rap without him and without cold crush brothers and a couple of those other artists. But you don't hear those songs like the weddings.

So they have not like permeated the popular culture in the same way. - That's true. - So it's up to you in terms of how you'd want to spend your time on that. - I would say make that and wild style yellow. - Okay, well make them yellow for now on a little bit.

That's a great conversation. - Yeah, I figured we would have it fairly early. It's the thing that I have probably studied the most as well in this particular world.

“And I think wild style is a really cool movie.”

We'll do the right thing as a masterpiece, right? But just like the way that I really like when new genres of music come into other forms of media and the way that like this is a case where using a movie to popularize a subculture

is really fascinating. But wild style was not like a very popular movie. - No, it's kind of underground. - Yeah, I think it was pretty under scene at the time. Okay, I'll do my absolute green.

- Yeah, pretty in pink. - Great, okay, yeah. I feel like pretty in pink has, I mean, if you leave by, oh, I'm do written specifically

for this film, thing that has like the first inclusion

of a Smith song on a soundtrack that kind of like helped bolster their popularity in America, obviously the film was like kind of inspired by the psychedelic first song, it's just all the ball bangers.

New order. - Bring on the dancing horses. - Right. - Nick Kershaw's wasn't it because of the low key. - I would say this is my second favorite

John Hughes soundtrack. What's your first favorite? - My first, we have the conversation, my first favorite spares.

“So I was gonna ask, do you need to put a cap on the number”

of John Hughes soundtrack? No, I really like Ferris too, but I'm not even sure if that's my favorite. - What's your favorite? - You're very bad.

- Breakfast club, and some kind of wonderful or really good. I think there's a case to be made for weird science. I think I pretty bold act of sound tracking. 16 candles. - Did I have a great amount of that?

- I see, I see. - I didn't have 16 candles on my list. I had Ferris because I think Ferris represents really 80s eclecticism that was sort of a big offshoot of like college radio where it was like,

I like weird new wave, novelty songs, and also like, let's try out music and twist and shout. And I like John Lennon, but also I like joy division, you know what kind of thing? - Joy of his not on this, but the beat city,

the yellow song, then the dream academy cover, please, please let me get what I want. - I think, and this might be incorrect, but I don't think it had a soundtrack. - What?

- That was commercially released. - What? - Ferris Bueller's they all. - It came out briefly. Like there was a brief like,

we're releasing the Ferris Bueller soundtrack, but I think that it's like, it almost exists as a mixtape. - Does that count? - To me, it's probably the,

personally the most indelible soundtrack of my eighties experience. - Interesting. - I wonder if it's any cause it is a little different for a lot of the other John Hughes soundtracks,

which feel like all songs that were written for the films, and this is much more of this, like, calling from the past and including some contemporary stuff to represent what the kids would like. I don't know, they're too totally different styles.

- Right.

- I don't know, they maybe,

maybe they both are old. - I'll say that in the same way that Ferris, the character is popular with like, dweeps, jocks, et cetera. - Yeah.

- There's something for everyone on this soundtrack. - Like this, it's Sierra Monthier, the Ferris of our lives. - Now, we'll come on. - Yeah, we'll move.

- Right. - Would you ever want to be on a float? - Like a parade float? - Yeah. - And singing twist and shout.

- Why would I have to sing? - I guess you'd have to sing. - I guess you'd have to sing. - I guess you'd have to sing. - Oh, in the movie.

- You hit us with your public waving stance. - It's nice.

- And that's a little weird.

- It's like kind of like going with that. - Well, we can give 'em both yellow. I just like mean personally,

“I think the Ferris Bueller tracks are weaker.”

- I guess it kind of goes back to me. - Yeah. - Let's do my other foot, what are my other musts would be revoked in? - Oh yeah.

- Well, I have no. - Speaking of sound tracks that feel completely ingrained in the culture of the film itself. - Yeah. - And an example of a soundtrack that led the way

for the movie to get a more wide release and have like a longer kind of shelf life with film-going audiences. And this is Alex Cox's 1980 Thorpe. - Or movie about go nowhere nihilistic.

So then California punk rockers who come a punk rocker who becomes a repo man, with Harry Dean Stan, really best of his plays. Repoman and then the soundtrack features, Iggy Pop's titular repo man's song.

- Yeah. - And then great collection of something California punk rock like black flag and suicidal tendencies, et cetera. - Yeah, I mean, I'm a hard yes,

hard green on this one. I think it's very... - Bivital. - Well yeah, it's just like a slice of life. I like you buy this soundtrack and you're like,

oh, I get to see what a scene look like. 'Cause it's very much a scene of Los Angeles, an apart from that you pop thing, circle jerks, black, being it everything you have

“and sort of, I think the circle jerks are in the film.”

- Mm-hmm. - A lot of stuff is shot down here, where our offices are. - Very band-splane-coded, album and film. I would say, as in terms of style and taste and the kind of like absurdity of the movie

and how it intersects with some of the absurdity of the songs too. And I just throw something out that I think is, I don't, you may not be interested in this, but it's on the long list.

And it's an interesting topic of conversation because of the way that we consume culture now. There's a somewhat less celebrated movie, now it is called Good Morning Vietnam. - Yeah.

- Sure. - Which was a Barry Levinson film starting around Williams about an armed services DJ during the Vietnam War who has a kind of like irreverent style speaking to the troops over the airwaves.

And he only plays 50s and 60s rock and roll. All stuff that's been approved, basically by the armed forces to play, but the things that he says and his commentary is very, like sometimes incendiary and sometimes kind of like

subtly. - Well, Bruno Kirby wants him to play Perry Colo. - Right. - And then he starts playing Motu, right? - Yeah, nor run, you know, and songs like that,

which are obviously like all kind of subtextually speaking to the conflict in Vietnam. The movie is like good.

“I like it, I think it's sturdy and well-made”

and Rob Williams just gets to kind of riff

like times a million because of the format

of just playing a DJ. - Yeah. - But the thing that the soundtrack did is that it retained his introductions. - Mm, yeah.

- And his dialogue from the movie so that as you're listening to the soundtrack, you are listening to him set up scenes and set up moments in the film through this broadcast or persona that he has.

And I listen to this soundtrack all the time as a kid. And then as I got older, you know, this is something that like Quintirntino adopted and you find in his movies where you get snatches of dialogue or a Stephen Wright DJ character

from Reservoir Dogs appearing on the soundtrack. And I think this is the first movie that ever did that. - Did they not do that in graffiti or anything like that? Probably not, right?

- There is some Wolfman Jack on the American graffiti soundtrack, but it's not utilized in the same way. And it's just really entertaining. And like a fun, it's like an innovation, I think, in terms of soundtracks

and the songs are all really good. You know, it's like the Beach Boys and James Brown and Van Morrison and the Voices. - There's a ton of great tunes. It's not 80s music though.

- That's okay, it's interesting. - The other one that I was gonna throw out there this goes hand in hand with good morning Vietnam would be the big chill. - Yeah, and I obviously have done on my long list.

Those are those ones are tough because I feel like in my rubric, it's all look like a force come time track or whatever, you know? It's like, is this indicative of what was going on in the '80s, not really, right?

- No, but it would be indicative of boomers taste.

and good morning Vietnam are 1980s movies

that are celebrating the taste of people who had the experiences that the characters had in the movie. - Yeah, I don't know. I'm not saying they were wrong. - No, I don't do so.

I'm just not, I don't know if it's in with like what we try to talk about here, you know? - So it's also something to be that interesting. - We're continuing to unpack like what the mission of this project will be, which is just for you

you wanted to represent the music of the '80s. - Yes, okay, okay. That's kind of an interest of mind with soundtracks as discovery and like showing people a thing that's contemporary andously happening,

but also because it would not be interesting for us to do a band's plan episode about songs from the '50s on the Good Morning Vietnam, soundtracks, I don't know, you'd be surprised. - You think?

- I don't know, like James Brown and Van Morrison are like as much band's plan to me as pretty pink, you know. - Well, when we do the soundtrack,

we don't talk, we talk about like how,

you've done them before with us. I'm talking about how these songs end up on the soundtrack and what part they play, you know? And I don't know if like there's that much there there to be like, I just like the beachways,

I get around.

“- I think to Sean's point, music is very integral.”

Like the way that they use music in Good Morning Vietnam and the way it's like right there with the character, I would say also with big chill. Songs are played digetically so like they'll be dancing to Motown songs in the kitchen or their shot

almost like a music video so like when the wait, the band song with the wait is used in the big chill. It's basically like a music video, these people waking up after a night of doing drugs, right? But I hear what you're saying.

Let's see how many, let's see if there's any spot for boomers with like the 10th fan. - Let's see if we have any room for the boomers. - What's your next must have? - There's a film from 1989,

written and directed by Cameron Crow and it is called San Diego. - Okay. - The soundtrack is just gorgeous, babe. - Is the soundtrack gorgeous or is in your eyes gorgeous?

- Babe, you have taste the pain by Red Hot Chili peppers. You have a depression mode song strip. You have within your reach one of the greatest replacement songs that has a weird drum machine. I feel like it's a very cool and interesting soundtrack.

But yes, in your eyes also very gorgeous. - It's got some jokes to ask for. Tatrioni. - Got some satrions, babe. - Where are you guys at on satrioni's days?

- It's a nice punchline that I always use for men

that like come located guitar off the lane but I don't know much about them besides that. I just, when I was in the hair metal, he featured heavily in the circus magazine. - Satrioni, Steve Bye.

- My more of a bye guy. - A bye guy. - This works for you even though there's like some dillon and steely Dan. - Not on the actual soundtrack.

- The soundtrack is just 10 songs. - Just all the like. - And now, this, again like, was called a personal one. - It's a personal one.

- It was living color. - It was called a personality released before this movie came out. - I don't know, I'll put up a man. This is a living color.

- This part of it is interesting to explore. - Right.

“- 'Cause camera, obviously, his whole life is making mix tapes.”

He's one of the great soundtrack makers because he's so good. Fast times is also a really good soundtrack. It feels similar, but also different because it's pulling from like,

what was on am radio like five years before the movie came out and that like defined some of the tastes of the kids who were in high school at that time, which I was thought was such a smart idea. - Yes, it came out in 88.

- The living color came out. - Yeah, the lead single off of their album vivid. And Peter Gabriel's in your eyes, not written for this movie either. So, like, you're interested in like a jukebox kind of thing

where somebody is like pulling from the contemporary hits. - Yeah, I mean, repo man, there's one song written for the film. The rest were just tapped and cold. They existed, you know?

- Sweet. - I'm just going to try to learn a word about you. - Yeah. - What's like what's in your world? - I love to, we love to learn about each other.

Here's the fun fact. Well, you probably know 'cause you've seen the film that that mother loved ones, Chloe Dancer, Crown of Thorin's is featured in the film, but not in the soundtrack.

- I love that song. - So why don't you add it to the soundtrack? - Maybe he was saying he was missing those. - Because there's also two soundguards in songs in the film, but not on the soundtrack.

It's like he was already kind of like gearing up for the vibes of singles. - And isn't Nancy Wilson from Seattle, and that's also part of how he became. - That's the whole thing with Seattle.

- That's the whole way he was. - I'm glad to know that your memory is just as adult as mine, because we did this thing all the episodes together. - Did we talk about that specifically?

- It was a long video. - I can't run right now.

“- How many years ago do you think that episode was?”

- Well, I do. - Can that can't be true? - Well, now she's getting into the possibility of redoing 'cause that's the whole March Bandest thing is like, possibly we do else in the race.

- Well, some of those early episodes are very short. - Two and a half years ago, so it was awesome. - So you were like-- - The episodes are really short. Then they got super long.

And now they're kind of in the middle. - There's a pretty long.

- Yeah, that's true. - So I don't know if we got shot short.

“I just let the people, I'm letting the people vote.”

I'm letting democracy guide my hand. - It wasn't usually works. It's been a very good idea. - Yeah, I mean, people are really mad about it. And I was like, well, this is, look, look at your--

- What's winning? What's been the highest of vote getter this for? - It's funny because you could tell that the last four were like a supposed to be the last four because the two last races were super tight.

- Yeah. - But R.E.M. beat the replays. - Oh, I saw this and I was so upset. - I know, I want to ice cream. - And it was like 51.49?

- Yeah. - But it's not a vote about who's a better band. - Well, some people did probably treat it like that. - The guys with red beards. - The red beards.

- It's time for me to vote for this. (laughs) - Have you spent much time with R.E.M. recently? - Recently? - Yeah, maybe the last five years.

- You and Bill Barry won the road. - Uh, select songs. - Did you type came out and sing with who? With Michael Shannon's band? - With the R.E.M.

- With the R.E.M. - With the R.E.M. - With the R.E.M. - With the R.E.M. - With the R.E.M.

- Shannon front right R.E.M. - Yeah, the R.E.M. - The R.E.M. - The R.E.M. - From super chill.

- Yeah. - And what did he sing? - Something from, you know, the spables of the Reconstruction, so that's what it was.

- Yeah. - And he sounded good. - There he does. - Oh, love R.E.M. are like great full bed people, like they're so deep, I know. - And I love R.E.M.

but it's just the replacements are fucking cooler. - So I just like spending time with their story a little bit more. Me too. - You know, they're the best R.E.M. when you can't miss them.

You know, I can still do whatever I want. I can do them both over again. - Are you making a city thing green? - Well, I don't know. You guys seem kind of like mad on it.

Show me throw y'all out and see what we come about. - This is a process of discovery. - 'Cause you might say, I know. - Barry to the mob. - Oh, I haven't, that's also one of my new.

Oh yeah. - I wanted to highlight a Jonathan Demi movie because Jonathan Demi has such great music taste and was like a, you know, it makes, stop making sense and he directs new order music videos

and is always used great music in his movies

and new and surprising ways. The merits of the mob is just like an incredible snapshot of New York, New Jersey, Long Island cool of 1980s. And it's got the feelings. - Tom Tom Club.

“- The order and it, I think it's the first appearance”

of goodbye horses. - Sure. - God tier. - To me, this is like, to me, you're a brother. - Uh, I was the right way to say this.

The cool version of a John Hughes soundtrack. - Yeah, totally. Like more edgy, I think very early appearance of Schneido Connor, which is really cool. - Yeah, opens the film.

- Yeah. - When I think I really like that he does in a lot of his movies, is he just meets artists and he just builds scenes around them in his movies and like so they go to the club in this movie,

they go to S.O.B.s. - Yeah. - And they watch an act perform. And that act, like it just gets to do their music. - What's the other Jonathan Demi movie

that also has a bunch of feelings, something wild? - Oh, it's something wild. - That was like on my kind of long list because also has such, this one's just better. So it has a lot of feelings.

- Yeah, it's basically a piece of a track by the feelings.

- Yeah, yeah, it's kind of more post-punk. This is like a real, like he's really in a world music, like he really picks from all over the world. But like he puts Robin Hitchcock in his movies all the time. - Is it a fake bear Robin?

I'll try that out as well. - This soundtrack weirdly reminds me of the soundtrack Carlos, which is Olivier S.A.S. is two part, Carlos the jackal, the sort of 1970s garrist, okay?

Well, it's really cool because it's about like this guy going all over the world and pushing his agenda. But then the all the soundtrack is wire of feelings on a new order, stuff like that. - No, no, no, no, check it out.

Yeah, this is really, this is on my short list as well, 'cause Ryan, that's friends. (laughs) - I've not been keeping this. - So what do we have right now?

Just give us a little recap of what we've got so far. - And we're not giving that to them. - We have green repo man, purple rain. - Married to the mom. And then we have yellow to the right thing, wild style.

Pretty impink first, blurs day off.

- I'm gonna pitch one. - Oh, and say anything. I don't know that I like it, okay? But I do think it's important. And that's top gun.

“I think you can make the case the top gun”

is really just two songs that it's dangerous own and take my breath away, yeah. But they're such big songs, and they're so instrumental to the movie. And then in addition to that,

you do have like playing with the great balls of fire and who he playing with the boys that can be login song. You've got him have it in your eyes a lot of voice song. There's like, there's a some popular songs here, but then also lots of older music too

And this is the movie that it was accused of really

“like a music video of vacationing cinema.”

And kind of like ruining movies in some ways and also kind of making them more appealing to broader pop audiences. - Yeah, that's great. - And they as you love it.

- I'm not a top gun person. I mean, I think it's fine. I much prefer top gun maverick. There's like kind of a scene of cheese on top gun

that I never really connected with.

It's just a little whole key to miss. But I know that millions and millions people absolutely love it. And it is really, it's doing the thing that you're describing too, which is like the sound

of this music and some of these bands like Berlin. - Yeah. - Or it's so obvious. - It's so obvious to the max. Like they couldn't exist in any other decade. - Totally.

- And it's so funny because I feel like in my mind there's two huge soundtracks of the 80s and it's top gun and dirty dancing. But dirty dancing, like I wanna kind of chew horned in, is doing the thing that I already said that.

- You can't put dirty dancing in, unfortunately. I mean, can, but it's all old songs except for she's like the ones shout out my man. That's amazing. - Right. - Yeah, I feel like the most popular song

from the dirty dancing soundtrack besides those two was steak, which was more than the 50s. - What have been to us since then? - Also in the great soundtrack.

- Incredible song. - Yeah.

- So we're making this yellow green, top gun. - Why don't we put it in yellow with the likely hundred old shading agreeing? - Yeah. - When I was doing, so I did my own personal list

of just like off the top of my head. Soundtracks before you shared your longer list. And the first one I wrote down was a repoman and the second one I wrote down was top gun and the third one I wrote down was purporting.

- Okay, so yeah. - So we're doing well. - I'm gonna do Valley Girl. - Cool. - 1983, prime, Nicholas Cage ours.

But the soundtrack is the kind of covered, I feel like we've talked about several strands of popular music of the '80s or maybe not, popular,

“but like important sub-cultural music of the '80s,”

hip-hop, punk, this one's new way, right? And that's got Lim-Souls. It's got Jersey cotton, johnny or your queer. Sparks is on here. It's a good lead on like what was happening

with like this kind of music. - I figured it was gonna be hard to build this hall of fame with you without Valley Girl. - So in 2019, we did this podcast series that Amy, Nicholas and Hosted,

called Quentin Tarantino's feature presentation. And we presented five movies to him

that were critical to his life development,

taste, personal experience. And Amy and I picked them together and kind of like looked at lists of movies that he had talked about in the past but it seemed to be instrumental to his life.

And we picked for him Valley Girl. And he talked about Valley Girl, at length in the episodes, it was really interesting. And he was a little bit like mixed on the movie itself and he was a little bit like I'm not totally sure

you picked this for me but then once we got him talking about it and especially about the music, his recall is just unbelievable and he talked about how when this movie came out, the songs that were in the film were still playing on K-rock.

And I remember this vividly because he pronounced K-R-O-Q

“and I never heard anybody say that and that's how he says.”

- People like him, people used to say that, yeah. - But he was talking about, I don't know, like hearing a spark song or something on the radio and then that appearing in the movie and how crazy that was and that in and of itself

is a really interesting accomplishment of being able to really be so tapped in. - Sure, your movie moves so fast that when it hits the world it feels right on time. - I think we can't help but be biographical

and maybe a little bit like West Coast Centric in this. I mean like we are who we are living where we are now. So this makes a lot of sense. - It's just like also like, it's just super strong. - It's like Bangra for Bangra, there's like no dead space

on the soundtrack. If you bought this, you'd be like, oh yeah. - Okay, you're yellow or green for that. - I'm gonna green that one. - If you guys feel like we're still on a rap,

I think we still have to have a John Hughes fight. - Yes. - We may have to like get the get the actual songs out and be like this better. I want to throw something at you guys

which is like we're obviously talking about broadly cool music. - Right. (laughs) - And we've discounted music that is like, old East Station, soundtrack's like big chill and good night in Vietnam.

But what we haven't discussed is soundtracks that have a DO and foreigner on them. So I wanna nominate too when we can have this conversation. What is vision quest? - Okay.

- Which has crazy for you, which is my favorite Madonna song. And that was like basically the video is just vision quest if you footage. - Yeah.

- But it also has like, say me, "Hey, Gar and foreigner and John wait and DO and it's kind of like more the kind of 80s rock you would hear on the radio in the Pacific Northwest."

which is glossy 80s mainstream blues rock from like Clapton and Don Henley and it has girls of London iconic use of that song. But neither are like cool new wave or cool alt rock from that period, but both are probably

like a way more popular collection of songs during that time period was like Don Henley and Eric Clapton. - No, I think I wrote this down row as like the chokehold that Rick Springfield and like Baws Skags had on the soundtracks of the 80s

and you're like booked in busy bit Rick Springfield and the 80s. - I am generally not a fan at all the kind of music on the vision quest soundtrack. That's just not my bag, like foreigner, journey,

DO, like I don't care for that stuff at all. The color of money soundtrack is interesting to me only in so far as it's something that has happened many times over the years which is Robby Robertson getting in Lawrence, Chris A. C. C. E. R. R. and being like

these songs and he did it like 10 or 12 times. He's departed, he had departed both Wall Street like there's a lot of examples of him just being like this is what's cool to me and this is what we agree on and it's often blues

influenced or blues-based but not always.

And this is probably the most pure blues soundtrack he's ever done. - But it's kind of funny because it's definitely like classic rock guys who got cool 80s haircuts and have like nine person bands and horn sections now.

- Totally. - These are like two sides of a coin so you've presented here because I'm like, okay, Mark Nopflar of dire straits is on the, it's like both of them are more representative

of 80s music that was popular than what we've been talking about. - I personally like the only song I listen to call our money really. I like the way that you use it kind of that cloth and song but I really, obviously where it was of London

and then for vision quests I only listen to crazy for you. It's not like I'm bang and foreigner but it's just kind of a b-side to what we're talking about. - You know, the A-side is like second look first and new order we're so awesome and prints but then the other side

is like a lot of dudes listening to for it. - It's very similar movies too. Both movies about young athletes coming under the guidance of complicated mentors and there's a gal and they gotta figure out where that gal fits in

and they're complicated life of professional academic or athletic excellence.

“- Do you guys actually think these are good soundtracks?”

- I think the music is used brilliantly in the color of money

but I would never put the soundtrack on.

- There's a couple of that. - I thought it was an interesting conversation. - Totally worth it. - Well it's funny. - And if I could have a song from the 80s

it might be crazy for you. Like if I could have a song from an 80s soundtrack it would be up there with, I don't know. - But we talked about this the other night and I think you conflated too song.

- Yes. - You can't have played into the group as friend. - Not into the group to tell. - Live to tell which is the Madonna song that actually I think did not end up appearing in that film

in that close range. - In that close range. - But the entire music video is somehow at close range themed. - Are you reading both of these films?

- I just want to propose a third option.

- Sure. - Which is like still a little cooler but I do think falls into. - Is it acdc's maximum overdrive soundtrack? - No, but it is.

- It is. - It is. - Oh, fucking weird. - I mean the movie is incoherent and it was directed... - It's directed...

- By Stephen King, what waltz, deeply high on coca.

“- Do you know what the plot of maximum overdrive is?”

Machines become sentient because Earth is in the trail of a comet and in a North Carolina truck stop, Amelia Oestevez is like with six survivors but trucks are like trying to run them over. - The truck serves killer trucks, that's the whole issue.

- A whole opening, I think it's the hell's bells. - People getting like run over by lawnmowers and stuff. - On this on, do we, do we, do we? - Do, because I acquired every Stephen King adaptation once upon a time, got it.

So I do, it's very bad. - It might be, it's probably the worst Stephen King movie. - I disagree. - Stephen King is not a film director. - What do you think is the worst one?

Not maximum overdrive. - You love it. - It's like the light fold of it. - But the entire soundtrack is acdc like waltz a wall. - They wrote the soundtrack.

- They wrote it for the movie. - It's the, it's the, - Who made who which is an absolute heater. - Where's the acdc? - Oh my gosh. - You're welcome to come on anytime. - You know, none expert, but I love them.

“- Do you, are you bond and both, I think they're both great?”

I don't, I really don't, I mean, bond is very special. - I used to be able to, if I gargle milk to be able to do, Brian, my johnson really care. - Let's do it right now, let's try it. - I don't mean milk.

- Do we get some milk if you're, for CR?

- Like I can do shit me all night long. - If I gargle milk. - I don't, this isn't going to show that obviously, I'm not a main best friend of yours and more of a newer addition,

but have you always done impressions?

- No, this was an impression, it was that karaoke. If I wanted to do, that was like a thing I could do. - It's kind of an impression. I mean, some musical, it's like a, a tribute to him. - You're, you're more Brian than bond?

- No, I like bond more. - All right, so, if you want boys, just my shit, it's only gray as long as small time. - Okay, we're not including this in our house. - No, no, I don't have this in my house.

- We're just talking about ACDC. - It is an interesting example of a single band writing entirely original music for, does that happen to a bunch of times? And I discounted them all, but it happened,

particularly in the 80s, it happened a lot more than it happened.

“- You know, to be fair, I think they just took all the songs”

from Maximum Overdrive and put it on the Who Made Who album, which so technically isn't really in the soundtrack. - It's tough. - Is it just like a music by ACDC, and then they put out another album with all the songs?

- Doods. - Pretty familiar with this song. - All right, I thought you were referring to me in a song. No, I don't know this movie. - Well, you are also, my dead bros.

- Sean, you? - I don't know dudes. - Well, I think I will. - You, I didn't want to expect you to know because famously you hate female filmmakers.

- But, this easily my least favorite bit going around podcasting right now, which is wildly inaccurate. - There's no, there's fire, I'm just kidding. This is a Penalty Spirits film.

It's kind of an under scene, Penalty Spirits film. Very weirdly, I owned the soundtrack on vinyl as like a child.

I'd never seen the film, but I loved the soundtrack.

It's 87, and it's clearly like host or around the time that Penalty Spirits discovered hair metal on the sunset strip leading to the most incredible decline of Muslim population, too. It's a film that starts John Crier,

“and another guy who I can't remember and flee”

and their punks, and they have to flee some sort of situation in the East Coast and drive to LA and like hijinks in zoo, and it's like in the desert, and yeah, it has like a cowboyish theme.

But it has like wasp and mega dead, and Steve Vi, and again, we were talking about like, there's a big swath of 80s music that we have not had represented, and like this is kind of,

but it also still has the Vandals and James addiction on here, so that's kind of the cooler version of what you guys are talking about, so. - Yeah, it's Daniel Roebuck is the other star. - Oh, thank you. - So we'll remember

we played Jay Leno in the late shift. - Very memorable.

- Leaving is also in the smoothie.

- Leaving is definitely in this smoothie. - And learning now that the cinematographer of this film was Robert Richardson. - Oh, wow. - Three time Academy Award winner,

famously shot many Oliver Stone and Quintantino films. - It is a shame. - So Jay, it's a beautiful film. - Not by himself, like he didn't show up. - Jay, okay, cinematography, it's the murdered film.

- They are natural, can they? - Maybe Oswald, so. - Yeah. - Is that when you think happened? - No, can I be honest?

I don't think about it that much. - I don't think it's like you really low on the totem fall of like,

“- But it's like honestly, I know that you're like,”

trying to make it be like people who care about that. - No, I'm not, I have plenty of like weird stupid shit that I care as you know. This is just not a thing that's like crossed my mind because we're about to run against your will.

You have to know they think that way. You know, it's just not something that... - She talked about like hydration almost, like from California to Illinois on a flight to Boston, it's just like...

- Let's see, now you're doing a thing which is that he's not telling the other part is when he got back. He thinks me profusely because he's now incorporated into his life.

Electrolets, and he feels much better and more hydrangea. - Really nice to see you guys blossom together. (laughs) - Do you feel really touched by it? - You don't speak even silver.

- Yeah, that was nice too. - Yeah. - Okay, so now we have a couple of like, these are harder, rock, or these are different, kind of genre books.

- Yeah. - So we have dudes or money. - Color of money, vision quest. And you know what, I could also throw in here just because it's segue is nicely into one

that's just a personal favorite of mine, but I don't think belongs in the whole family. - Yeah. - Is Rivers Edge, which has a lot of slayer. - Yes.

- Some wipers, I know, a burning spear saw. - Yeah. - Were you like the kids and over the edge? - Rivers Edge? - Rivers Edge, sorry.

- On-house? - Over the edge, too. (laughs) - Were you in on-house runaway? - No, I mean, actually isn't Daniel Roebuck,

the murder in Rivers Edge. She wanted all comes full circle. - I feel like you're really crazy that you're able to do that with your brain. I don't know.

- I just know I own these guys and that one. - That's a great soundtrack though. - That's a great. - There's a lot, I mean, there are like other ones like less than zero has a great soundtrack.

- Yeah. - That's a crazy good soundtrack.

just off the strength of bangles. Hasey shaded winners, kind of. - It's pretty good. - I'm just gonna dancing on there. - Yeah.

- We've been to the soundtrack, it's sick. - Where do we stand on Ghostbusters? - It's less than it was on my long list. - Because I can't name one another song. The sad Ghostbusters by Ray Parker-Dude.

- But it's the most popular song of the 80s. - But like my four-year-old knows that song. - That she?

- And has never seen Ghostbusters and doesn't know

what a Ghostbusters is. - This is where you're gonna call. - See, there she does. And she thinks that's very funny to have to do a call on response with a song.

- Clean it up the town by the boss boys.

“- I think that's a denoted. - Yeah, that's a denoted.”

- That's the thing is when you watch the movie, - Yeah, this is not really visible. - That's not visible. - It's not eligible. - Well, it's exactly what we were talking about, where it's just the one song.

- But I'm telling you that there's Laura Branding in. - But what if there's a Diane Warren, Elmer Burns' theme to the film though? - Right. - Is very special.

- Yeah, Paul then your score. - It reminds me of being a young person and feeling hopeful about my lifetime full of watching movies about ghosts, which is something I have pursued professionally

and feel good about. - From Ghost Buster to Ghost Watcher. - That's right.

Well, I'll be busting some point.

I'm just still accumulating knowledge. Once I've not, hey, I'll be ghost busting. Well, as Ray Parker Jr. famously told us in the song, "Bust in Makes Me Feel Good." - It's an I double on time.

- You're making it worse. - Do you think he knew? - Yeah, I think that knowing the people involved in that movie, I bet it was like, this is pretty funny, a 21 year old might get it.

- Although I don't busting like a nut. - Was that a slain? - Was that a slain? - I don't know if that was like a same. Bust a nut?

Did you say that back in '84 or '85? - I was too old. - Dude, you're the oldest one here. I heard a lot of things. I heard a lot of crazy things.

- Sounds like a threat. - No, but you know, like we watched Eddie Murphy's Raw a lot. - Okay, okay. - Did you know? - Yes.

- I learned words that you can't say.

(laughing) - Sure did. - This is the way we've straighted so far. - This is podcasting.

“- Do you think Beverly Hills Cop deserves a shout here?”

- I believe it was on one of my longer list, but I did not find it compelling enough to include. - Okay, what do you remember? Just don't look at your computer. - Oh, my tongues are on there.

- I remember some song playing when the cigarette truck chase happens. - Some song. - And Axel F being a song that a guy lived on the corner for me could play on his Casios,

so we would all gather in his room and watch him do it. - Pretty sick. - This is what you did before Instagram. - Yeah. - Don't let him eat.

That was there. (laughing) I have one that I'm making an automatic grain because what do you call it, like, just this is my podcast and executive privilege.

- Executive privilege, which is Times Square, which you said, "Yes, you did that before I'll do it." - Okay, so wait, but like you're now putting, we've got a Hall of Fame for 10 records and you're talking dudes, Times Square,

and what was the other one? - Dude's a silly yellow. We can let it get that Times Square to me is one of the greatest on tracks of all time. It is, we got to do the co-actor.

We got the printer, so that rocks in music. We got two way army talking heads, Joe Jackson, and XTC Ramones. We read the cure, Patty Smith group. Come on, babe.

And it's set in New York, it's 1980. It's like the turn of the time. It's about two girls that beat like a Juvey Mental Hospital in Form a Band. Tim Curry is a radio DJ.

It's just this is a very, this was also like the soundtrack was crafted with a lot of intention. Like the associate producer of this film was also the associate producer or he ran the label that put out cyanite fever,

and so they were like, "Oh, make another cyanite fever, "but punk in New York." - So he's going green. I think this should go great. - I don't want to take Times Square away

from movies, I know it's a great passion point, but this is a 70s soundtrack thing. This is not an easy assassinated. - I'm most of these songs if not all of them were recorded in the 70s,

they're definitional to the 70s. - To the 70s. - But it's very clear that like the Gary Newman song, the Pretender song, the Joe Jackson song, like these are, XTC songs.

“- I think you've been moisted out by your own guitar”

because you made the Tars? - Yeah, like you guys. - I know we don't see it out for it. (laughs) - I'm sorry. - I'm sorry. (laughs)

- Did you know? - Yeah, we did. - But friends, I know it's a real serious, exchange of ideas. - And when we do cross the line,

it's in the spirit of friendship, right? It's not in the spirit of humiliation. - That was, who got humiliated there besides me? (laughs) - Then you're doing great.

- Keep on. - I don't want it.

in any kind of activity like this.

- But you can't just be like, obviously, this goes in the Hall of Fame. - So you're saying because the songs are not from another decade. - They're not fundamentally of humiliation.

- You were like, "Lay read." Isn't that awesome? I'm like, "Lay read." - What is that? - "Lay read."

- Yeah, "Lay read." - "Lay read." - "Lay read." - You know, those are 70s acts that persisted through the 80s.

- Yeah. - But the same way that people were listening to the Motown in '83. - And frankly, probably more people. - Yeah.

More people were probably listening to a foreigner and DO to be honest. You know, I can see those on your dolls and Patty Smith. - But here, you're welcome to be like, "It's Ben's Planet, it's my pod, I'm doing this."

But then I think me and him she each get one-- - One, one, one, one. - I don't even care. I don't even need one. I just want to point out that hypocrisy.

- Is it hypocrisy? - But if you can do this, you do time square. - He should be able to do good morning Vietnam and I should be able to do color of money. - Well, no one said he couldn't do color of money.

We just said those songs are not bad. - Just what was the really old evidence I wanted to do? - I wanted to do it. - I wanted to do it. - Yeah, that's true, it's true.

What was there, really like music from the '50s or '60s that I wanted to spend some time on in the show and you're like, well, never do that, no thanks. - On bands, right? - You're kind of like the Bill Simmons

of the music pod world where you're like, we don't go before 1970. - Because nobody cares. There's like a small swat, the Beatles. - You're always have told me to make podcasts

that people were care about. - If you did the Beatles, you would have to get new servers, it's Spotify.

“That's how many people will be able to see.”

- Because of the amount of hate and anger comments that would be you missed this fine detail of Don Lennon's upbringing. - Sometimes that's part of the magic podcast. - Do you just not feel like enough

has been said about the Beatles? - You know I need to tell you what, I'm not in the ring. - I'm still wildly consuming anything new that comes out about them.

I've read many books, I've seen many documentaries and I listen to the music all the time. - You feel like since this becoming friends with me, you like the Stone's Less. - Why are you the Marvelous Towns kids?

- The answer is, well first of all,

we've been friends for a really long time. So the answer is the time. - I always have no opinion. - And I feel like I've felt you slip away for me in Stone's fandom as you've become more

of a Beatles guy. When we used to be brothers like Mickey and Keith, you know, stand and back to back. - Yeah, rock and sherry women in heroin. - Those are kind of like Mickey and Keith.

You know how like Mick like is like, oh, Keith is so cool. I'm gonna sing songs about him. That's like you're the Mick and he is the Keith. - Yeah. - That's so good.

- But who's holding the mic? - The kind of both of you. - Yeah, it's true. Well, literally, yes. - And now we're staring each other down

to see you dice first. (laughing) - Who is really gonna get the takeover? - 'Cause you know the other of us is like, I can't see it on the other hand.

- I can't see it on the other hand. - Sorry who people are like, we wrap it up, get off stage with the paid $800 to see us play. - But if Keith dies first. - Yeah.

- Which is not going to. - Mick's gonna have to spend the last few years of his life talking about Keith. That's crazy.

- I feel like you never know where you're gonna get in the soundtrack

of a sort of dance song. - Let's do a proper accounting of where we stand with greens yellows and then do a little bit of trouble and miss some stuff. Sorry 'cause I was trying to podcast

and keep track of the same time. - That's okay. - I'm sure we can figure it out. - I know for green, we have repo man. - One.

- Purple rain to marry to the mob's green and valley girl. I don't know if we have any other green. - Those are good choices. I think so. Yellow we have many top gun Ferris Bueller.

Pretty impink. Do the right thing, wild style, dudes. The color of money, vision quest. I don't know. - That's 12.

You're nix and ghost busters. - I'm nix and ghost busters.

“Here's the thing that one that we haven't mentioned”

and I just, I don't actually know if it's eligible by my own rules 'cause I've already forgotten my own rules. - Yeah, I'm honest, but Flos was kind of a big soundtrack. - Well, Flos was a really big deal. - Flos is a big deal, you heard that song.

- A little bit of a top gun zone. - Yeah, a little on the top of it. - It's three songs. - They're like, she did a lot of people were like, "Can you log in to some of these?"

I guess a lot more people probably than I think. - Well, how do Kenny log in with the 80s? - I is in more than three songs. I mean, let's hear it for the boy. Also a huge song.

- Oh shit. - Hang out for a track here, to be volumes. - That's a real thing. - Holding off for a hero like, - Oh, I'm a Tyler, yeah.

- Yeah. - That's also a little bit loose. - This might be green, bro. - That's what I'm saying. - Another Kenny log in songs on here.

There is a Sammy Hager song on here. - Yeah, representing the Hager Quest. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So long character, have you met a parking lot, dude?

- I don't know. - I've ever really, I had no idea what I was like. - I had no idea what I was like. - I was just like, this is like, this is like at close range or top gun,

or it's one or two songs. But I guess it's not, I guess it's. - Also, melanchamps hurt so good

“is in the movie, but I think not on the soundtrack.”

- It's a little shit. - So that's pretty hard. - Pretty busy, big. - These are like things like, I personally don't love her care about,

- Even emotionally divested ever

since time square got mixed. - That's right. - You got to cut off my feelings. (laughs) - I guess would you want to spend a week researching

this? - Yeah, that's right. - No for water. - No for water. - Yes, that's why when I was like,

vision question, like please now. (laughs) - I'd rather do dudes.

“I think it'd be a more interesting episode,”

'cause I do often think about it that way. - But no one has seen that film. - Does it matter? - No. - Can we?

- This is deep dives into soundtrack. - Is dudes even available to watch? - Yeah, I watched the other day. - Like, 'cause you have a cool blazer just copy, or because it's like-- - It's like--

- It's on like Amazon Prime for $2.99 or whatever. Okay, I'd like to see you. - You sure? It's really fun. Also, the funnest fact about dudes

is that there is a scene where let's look at his name, they said. - Daniel Roboc. - Daniel Roboc, John Cryer, and Flee are driving, and it's like from the car,

and they start singing Havana, Nagila. - Mm-hmm. - And is that in the soundtrack? - No, but they get increasingly into it, and start head banking.

And that is what Penelope's theorists use as the blue plants for Wayne's world. - Oh, for the Williamian Rhapsody, and you can fully see that the one to one. - So why don't you take dudes?

'Cause I think you really wanna do a dance plan, so to about it. - So you're passing on Footloose and Top Gun. You're doing dudes? - No.

“I think we should probably pick one from Footloose or Top Gun.”

- Okay, can I throw another one out? You're not gonna do it, but it's notable because it is another thing that I was looking for for our conversation about purporting. - Yeah.

- UHF? - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 'Cause I'm gonna hear it out.

- Absolutely, I'm gonna hear it out on my list, but yeah, it's all weird all songs, of its all parodies of popular songs. - Five or eight years songs, it was on my list, babe. - I gotta say, weird out is kind of a great bands plane episode.

- Oh, no, I think so, too. - It would be really funny. - Yeah, I think so, too. - 'Cause there's a lot to do there though, it's fun. - You guys love to tell me to do an episode,

and then be like, "I'm not an expert." Go over there. - Who we do that? - Oh, man. - Twice as I was saying.

- It's such an interesting cat though. - I think so, I think it'd be a great story. - This now, it kind of now we get into what would be really funny for Yasi to have to do. - I just happened upon one line in the Wikipedia

on your edge of it. The first of these segments is called Gandhi II, which we imagine as a Mahatma Gandhi as they hear a little black話. - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

- It's a little black話. - It's a little black話. - It's a little black話. - It's a little black話. - You should do this.

- We know it's pretty good, I gotta say. He's pretty funny. So the songs that are parodyed on the soundtrack include money for nothing but a dire story. It's a wild thing by tone-locke.

She drives me crazy by fun, young cannibals. Stand by REM. And heritage. - What's the wild thing? - parody.

- It's called Iol Thing, I-L-E. This one also features his polka medley of stone songs, the hot rocks polka. - Yeah.

- 'Cause he always does a polka song in every album.

- Listen, you can't take it. Okay, this also begs a question. What about spinal tap? I know that, is that a musical and original songs? 'Cause those are good songs.

- Those songs are all a spinal tap songs. - Firstly, I think U.H.F. is funnier and less covered territory. - Maybe, but you can't talk about it 'cause all you're gonna say is like,

“I don't know, sometimes you need to have like a light week.”

You know what I mean? - I wouldn't love them. - We just, we did dice guys. All we did was read each other lines from the movie and cry with laughter.

- It was a little entire pod, hour and a half. - One thing that I must remind everybody that I've created, the worst podcast in the world for myself and everyone else is like, I showed up and I laughed about the nice guy

and I'm like, oh, I'm on page 100 and 60. - Don't get a twist, there's nothing way too much more. - One thing that you have to be incredibly serious about weird alley exit. And like, born, you know, like...

- I'm not, I'm not a pose. - For Yola. - Okay, I think one of Footloose or Top Gun. - Yeah, I'm arena pop. - Completely off of nothing except just like intuition.

I'm drawn more towards Top Gun but how do you get it so? - I think I'm drawn more towards Footloose. - I think there's more songs on Footloose that I just enjoy, but that's not really good enough

opinion to sway you and either direction I don't think. - I think that we have to solve the John Hughes problem for certain. - Can't wait to go back to solve it. - I do think you got to find a way

to address Kenny Loggins in some way. - Right, like we can't live Kenny Loggins. - You got Katie Shack on the table here too. I mean, Kenny Loggins is the voice of the 1980s movie soundtrack. - Yeah. - He probably has more hits off of the soundtrack

than any other artist. - Right. - So he would be represented on Top Gun, he'd be represented on Footloose. - Can I just throw it out that we're not gonna put in,

but it's just 'cause it's like pertinent to your guys' interests

and a film I've never seen.

- Of course. - The return of the living dead. - Yeah. - Incredible soundtrack. - You seen this one?

- You know this one? - I don't know this soundtrack. - It's very common. - It's very common. - It's very common.

- It's very common. - It's very common.

- No, it's Dan Bannon. - No shadow band in the guy who created that alien character. And it's one of the only movies he directed. And it's a really fun, reimagining of the zombie world way more comic.

“And I think Lynne quickly, like famous screen queen,”

plays a punk rocker in it. She has like a mohawk and then she becomes a zombie. Anyway, I think she also later did a punk rock or a workout video. - Wow.

- Yeah. - I'm looking to that. - I'm very interested. - All right, Chris, I'm listening. - Which one about John Hughes?

- Yeah. - Let's talk about, it's really funny that they both have the same Smith song. - Do you think, I think we should, I honestly do think breakfast club is closer to the old one

song out of shines at everything. - That's true. - So neither one of us said breakfast club though. - I think it was mentioned. - Right.

- I brought it up. To me, it has the most memorable image of shot to song. - Yeah. - In the history of John Hughes movies with the pacifist. - It's going up.

- Totally. - I think you feel like the rest of it, it's kind of weak. I think probably it's between pretty and pink and first feeling. And it sounds like you want to do pretty and pink.

First feeler, it's like, what do you really say about? Oh yeah. That's a good song. Boom. - Is that English beat?

- That's yellow. - Oh yeah. - Oh mirror in the bathroom. - Yeah. - It's on banger.

- Also on one of my other favorite song tracks. 90s. - Gross point. - Gross point. - Yeah.

- Are you doing the 90s next? - Yeah, nice. - This one is hard. I mean, it's hard because that's why it's the band's playing Hall of Fame.

It's obviously, if we were doing like a regular Hall of Fame, which honestly would be kind of boring because there's like

a million rolling stone lists that are like that

that already tell you what the best ones are. These are ones are going to have the best stories.

“And that's what I, that's kind of what I need, you know?”

I mean, the, the meat to be there of the story. Batman. I thought about Batman because of that song. - We surely need two print albums. - Totally.

And also again, the rest of the Batman soundtrack, it's not like when you go to Batman, is it forever? Is that when the soundtrack gets really fucking poppin? - That's kiss from a rose. - Yeah.

- And hold me. - It can't be here. - Yeah. Kiss from a rose. - One of the biggest songs, one of the biggest songs

in a film of all time wasn't even nominated. - Can I tell you something? - I was watching it. - This new movie, Mike and Nick and Nick and Allison.

And Seals crazy, isn't it? And crazy hits in a scene in an icon, but I was like, "Holy fuck, seal." - You're really, it's really, really tight time. - It is.

- You don't like seal because...

- I just never really like seal.

I've sealed took over MTV really hard. - He'd for a minute. - Kiss from a rose was on. - No, I'm sorry. - It's been 11 hours watching this channel. You can't play the same video over it over again.

If I don't like the song. - Rating a letter, dear. - Excuse me. - So you don't wanna come with me on May 7th, the Yama Va Resorting, 'cause you know, to Cecil?

That's my name? - Sorry. - Yama Va? - Remember me on the Yama Va? - Where is that?

- It's in the desert. - Yeah. - Look if you want to catch the name. - In the sebums and stuff, yeah. Think about it.

Put it to yellow. - Back to the future. - What's on there? - 90-50. - Power of love?

- What else? - No, up and up if you're had. - You got me Johnny B. Good? - Yeah. - On an advantageal.

- Does it fall under some of the heaven is one step away by Eric Clapton? - Okay, not a song I put on that often. - Time bomb town by Lindsay Buckingham, which is apparently a song.

Back in time, also by Hugh Lewis Lewis. - Can we talk about Hughie for a second? - Sure, yeah. - Growing up. - Yeah.

Four and sports were in my dad's truck heavy. Of course, heavy. And kind of in that same zone as Clapton, Don Henley and like this is white guys who grew up in the 60s and 70s.

Like kind of keeping up with new music into their late 30s. - Is your dad buying new Billy Jill records at this time period?

“- Are you thinking, I think he's stopped.”

We definitely had a copy of River of Dreams in the house, right? But I, and Stormfront for sure. So he was, and that was the last Billy record, right? But Hughie Lewis in the news, I was like eight or seven or eight years earlier.

Now, it's become much parody because of Patrick Bateman, right? Patrick Bateman's really in Huey and Phil Collins. - Right. - That kind of like the sheen of Reagan era.

- Are we hopeful? - Are we gonna go to weird like Yachtrock S. Revival of that strand of music? - Is that what's next? - I think it's actually happening.

- I'm kind of, I'm kind of circling that at the moment. I was listening to Hughie. - I'm in Genesis Fox, man.

There's like some incredible tracks.

- Oh, he's Genesis. - He's not far back. - You mean the pop stuff? Yeah, there's just some great songs.

- Hughie is much simpler than that stuff.

- But the songs are really fantastic.

“- Yeah, I got a new, I got a new drug, yeah.”

- I want a new drug. - I don't know why there's something about it. They're like, something chilled on my wrist, man. - There is something a little douchey about it, but it is also kind of appealing, you know, Robert Palmer

also falls into this category. Like, how did Robert Palmer get his famous as he is with those, 'cause of the videos? - 'Cause of the girl. - But he was big in the '70s.

People were all in conversation, right? - Yeah, and he was doing, like, fucking Rage covers, like, white guy style in 1975. - A lot of Robert Palmer songs and 80 soundtracks. Also, he's like neck and neck with buzz.

- buzz. - And neck and ricks. - He else over here. - Okay, we meet the, read me the greens again. (laughs)

- Like, well, you don't even share the dots on kids. - 'Cause I did that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- And the end of Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross.

- No, I'm fine, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to. - Show me the new leads. - Here it is. - You're sure, you're both sure. - My mom didn't update.

Reap a man purple ray in my arts and mod. Valley girl, float was dudes.

“- Oh, you didn't just say we had to remove dudes,”

I can't remember. - No, I said you had to remove time square. - Okay, and then we're moving pretty amping up there. - Okay. - And then you--

- I kind of feel like we do have to pick one of the right thing or wild style. - Is your favorite rap soundtrack of all time in the minute, Black soundtrack? (laughs)

- So I was just kind of out. - Yeah, but it's judgment. - It's just judgment. - It's just judgment. - Yeah, yeah.

- But there's, I mean, I like juice. - It's my favorite, yeah. - The drinking, South Central, don't drink your O.J. in the hood, but you're in South Carolina, that's a very complicated.

- No, the ledge about rock N, this one of the great rap performance of the rap. - There's a lot of good rap. - So you got one more slot. - Which way you're gonna go?

UHF, you're gonna go--

- I mean, first viewers--

- Just don't know. - Just don't know. - UHF is like a thing that can be talked about. - Do you wanna put anything on there? - Yeah.

- Okay. - Let's see, that's made me remove time square. - That's like real, that's a real power plate by you. - Oh, you know what? - Put up something that like,

no one knows about dudes or time square. - Yeah. - And then we made you remove it. And now you're like, so for that, I get to have say anything. So it's almost like you asked for something really extreme

to get what you wanted. - I wonder what would be, I'm listening, I promise. (laughs) From your terrible characterization of me.

- I don't want other ideas out there. - What about Lesson Zero? - I said Lesson Zero. - I also said Lesson Zero. And that is, sorry, go ahead, John.

- I have an idea. - Okay. - It could potentially be helpful. - Yeah. - But also kind of breaks the rule.

- Okay. - What about risky business? - Oh, fuck yeah. - Because risky business, obviously the most memorable musical moment

is Old Time Rock and Roll, with the dance. - And this is on these. - And that song is from, that's from the 70s, I'm pretty sure, right? - Yeah, 79, okay.

- It's not that old when the movie comes out, which is 84. - But you've also got some other blues songs, you got muddy waters and Jeff Prince. Jeff, Jeff, that's rather, there's a hungry heart of them. But hungry heart and swamp by talking head in the air tonight.

- In the air tonight. - In the movie. - In the movie. - And then you've got tangerine dream doing this soundtrack.

- Yep. - And then now that they're doing a score, - 11, I really trained as pre-high up there in terms of 80s musical movements. - And you can kind of talk about tangerine dream moment,

even though they're a composer, but they sit pretty comfortably along side, pop music in this, just an idea. - I think it's really good idea. - I do, I have a voice, you know what I mean?

I'm just throwing it out there. - It's a Phil Collins journey prince. Bob Seager talking heads for springsteen. - Tangerine dream dream dream. - That's pretty 80s.

- There's not a talking head's actual song on the soundtrack. - It's not, it's in the movie. - It doesn't count. It's, but I'm seeing here as Bob Seager, muddy waters, Jeff Beck, Prince,

journey, and Phil Collins. And it's not giving, babe, and then half of it is tangerine dream, we're just score. Not only do we find a talk about, I hear what you're saying. - It's score, but it's also like instrumental music

from an instrumental group. So it wasn't like they wrote it to be back. You know, it's like they chose this music to soundtrack these moments. - So it already existed.

We know the killer, Pimp, was one of their existing songs. - I don't think so, maybe. - No future, parenthesis, get off the babysitter. - That was an existing tangerine dream.

- I wrote that song actually. - That was about me. - Listen, I love and accept your contribution. It's just this one isn't all giving for me. - So now you have Lesson Zero is the tab.

“- I think Lesson Zero will just be so interesting”

to talk about because of the reasons said before, in which it's showing, this is almost like proto judgment night where it's like putting some like rap elements

They're not in the same song, but it's kind of interesting that their cogs is staying on the soundtrack. Like having aerosmith and L. Coljay and Slayer and public enemy and Joan Jett,

it's kind of fucking cool. - What about the last dragon?

“Now you might think to yourself, what's the last dragon?”

- You think that's right. - That's my one of the things I do with that. - Produced by Barry Gordy. - Okay. - Founder of Motown.

Solon R&B film about martial arts film. - Blacksploitation kind of 10 years later, movie. - Not the one about violence. - Coljay, extremely fun movie. - It's got rhythm at the night of it.

- And it's rhythm at the night is the lead single, and this is part of the kickoff for Debars for Motown. rhythm at the night of the night, famous for it and by Diane Warren. Also features-- - All the time loser of Oscars.

- But multi-time winner of Smashle at hits. And I think there's might be her first big soundtracks song, where she went on to write those aerosmith songs. And seven to seven by Vanity is also on this soundtrack. And it's a snapshot of 1980's Motown,

which is a little bit of an under-explored era. There's like a Stevie Wonder song on here. - I'm just giving you ideas. - I like all the barge. - You're so right to bring this in,

“and it is showcasing a space in music of the '80s.”

And just don't know if I have a good person to do an episode about it. - Okay, okay, that's 10. - I'm not going anywhere. I'm just telling you, if you tell--

- You've played a lot last night again. - No, I include say anything, which still wasn't in. - Have you seen the last one? - What, okay, I have no. - Showed up.

You haven't seen the last what? - I don't think so, yeah. - The show going of Harlem? I just don't remember it if I saw it. - Jazz pulmonary please, hood number two in this film.

- Love him. - You do, he's kind of, is he your type, Jazz? - No, but I love the work as nice. - I don't even like this fellow film, I don't think-- - What are you talking about?

- Awesome, not my type, too, that's too pretty. - Too pretty. - You know, some people will, it's just like, very beautiful now. - How would you describe your type?

- For real, though. - Like, just completely physically speaking? - Sure, what are you like? - As I've shared with my best friend Chris Ryan, but not with you yet, I did consult with a psychic

who did tell me that a relationship is coming and it is in the form of an older gentleman with a lot of wisdom who is rotund and they were sorry to say it, in quotes. - A lot of words.

- We're sorry to say this. - I ask you to not have a vague. - Oh yeah, it's a guy who channels your like angels and your guys, and they were sorry to say, they said, "We're sorry to say this,

"doesn't have a thought.

- It's a incredible, you get so much information

from just hanging out with her like once. You're just like, I do so much about the human body and the spirit world." - Yeah, anyways, so that's-- - You're very special.

- Yeah, I want to throw out one other one that is kind of cool. Maybe a little more seen than dudes in Times Square, maybe not stars Madonna, was that girl? - What are some other songs from her, though?

Has a Scriti Politi song called Best Thing? It has, yeah, it's actually not that strong, so I'm gonna mention it. - Okay. - Do you also try, probably, hoping that like double up

a dollar research rate? - So I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have a research rate. Okay, well, I guess we have our 10. Should I just tell you guys some quick, honorable mentions that just because I discovered them

and now they're on my letter box to watch list 'cause they sound so cool. - Did you know Yasi, you know somebody who made a letter box to count for the movies mentioned in the Epstein files?

- It's incredible, you guys should really check it out.

And basically, he put just copies and paste the email that mentions the film as a review of that film. - That's very amusing, but also one of the darkest things I've ever heard, but also kind of an appropriate use of social media, I would say.

- Yeah, I think it would be weirder if you did like a real physical space, Epstein film festival where you're like, should I? - But you are doing that, you said. - I just think of it weirder.

- Okay, that would be strange. - Do you think it would be weird? 'Cause that would be weird.

“I'm not interested in participating if that's what you're asking.”

- It was like my life's work, if I was like, I'm taking everything, all the equity I have and I'm moving forward and I'm gonna have the Epstein film festival, I can't do it without you. I would say that's the day you lose all your best friends.

- Do you wanna hear about a strange film who used to make a one of those countries? - Yes.

- These are two that I just have incredible soundtracks

that you can actually watch this one on YouTube I started last night. Called Desperate Teenage Love Dolls, 50 minutes long, it's shot on super eight by guy called David Marky and it's about a rock man of teenage runaways,

bunny, kitty, and patch, who formed the hottest all-girl band of all time, but their meteoric rise to the top

Thanks to a sleazy man and a jerk named Johnny Tremany, who was played by Steve McDonald from Red Cross. - It's kind of crazy.

“- I was gonna say, I think it's like a thinly veiled”

runaways thing that came out like three years after the runaways broke up or whatever. It's like borderline. I mean, it's, it's just so visually cool because of the time period

but it's like it's portable, obviously, but it has a really good soundtrack. 'Cause it's all like old punk songs, and then there's a, this this feels like something you guys would actually like.

Reform school girls, Gina, about this. - I mean, not in movie, but I just didn't just in general, yeah, that's a kind of a category. - This is a prison comedy film directed and written by Tom Disemone who had apparently

directed to other women in prison films. I don't know that was a whole genre, prison girls and concrete jungle, and then he made this which is a spoof of women in prison. - I see.

- And Wendy O. Williams isn't it? - It's kind of how Jonathan didn't even got to start. Caged heat movies like that. - Yeah. - No, not those movies.

- Sounds a little bit like my girl Rachel Kushner's Mars Ring. - Great. - Look, there's another one that we haven't mentioned that you wouldn't do here because you despise jazz,

but there's a very famous soundtrack for, well, there's bird, but I was thinking of round midnight, which is a really interesting movie by Bertrand Tavernier, French filmmaker about a jazz musician. It stars Dexter Gordon, the jazz musician,

and famously nominated for Best Actor for his performance in this movie.

He was not an actor, no, and the score is incredible,

and it's all, oh, her rehab cock. - I thought you were going to say the jazz singer with Neil Dettman. - No, no, I actually haven't seen that. - Yeah.

- The remake of the "I Ever Saw" Jolson. I don't think I ever actually watched "Iel Jolson" as jazz singer. - I've seen many clips. - Did we mention weird times?

- Weird times I did mention when we were talking John Hughes. - Yeah. - I do think that. While I go song, I'll tell you why it's in my head all the time.

It's 'cause I was really into the weird science TV show. - Oh yeah.

“- Do you want to watch that show on the USA Network?”

Do you know about that? Starting lead, Turgison? - I was gonna ask. - I was gonna ask. - Is Vanessa Angel?

- Yes, I was supposed to film on dancing. - 'Cause there's a Ferris Bueller TV show as well. I think it maybe is like close sort of late '80s. - I was like on NBC because I recall. It was like a main, like a different girl

as I can't live with. It took its fucking lunch money. - It did great. - Really cool show. - Oh, we didn't know.

- I'm gonna watch on the other Alex Cox straight to hell. - Yeah, a little bit more themed. - Yeah. - It's like hoax and Joe's drummer making like, kind of spaghetti Western music.

- Yeah. - If we were gonna do a TV show, the collected songs of Miami Vice first two seasons would probably be one of the 20th-central 80s soundtrack. - This is the second time you brought up Miami Vice

in our last week of the thing, yeah. - The third time. - Yeah. - It's what happened in front of me. - You watch it a lot.

- Yeah, she just dropped a fuck off, well there's a moment. - No, I didn't know it was such a play. It's such a prominent part in your life. - We were doing a pod yesterday. Like I said, it was me, Chris, and Ian Bill.

And we're all around the table. And Bill and Chris, for not really a good reason, just started talking about Miami Vice in the middle of the episode, and just stopped looking at me and Andy.

And just kind of, we're like, I fucking eat talking about Miami Vice. I think they might have fist bumped across the table at a certain point. And it was like, why?

- Like a sweep, but really weird.

“- Sean, that's why it's not Sean Penanceyman.”

- I never is, but I thought that was funny.

And then the one day later, here you are, bring it up again. - Make it up again. - Bill, if you're listening, what you're probably not. If you guys do lost boys, we watch a bulls.

I'm so ready. Just called up me on his radar. - Off the bench. - I think I've mentioned it to him before. - I brought it up 'cause I love lost boys though.

- It's another, it's another candidate, although I don't think it is good enough to, well, it has good stuff on it. Great soundtrack. - Say no, most fire TV show? - No movie.

You're thinking of saying elsewhere. - Yep. - Say no, most fire, wrap pack. - Yep. - Give me more.

- Go into Georgetown, then get out of college and be able to what are we gonna do with our lives. - Man, again, then I'll make those kinds of movies any more either. - Bright Lake's big city, is that a good soundtrack?

- You know, I just watched that movie for the first time.

- Last week, then it was his 88, right? - Do you, have you seen that movie? - Right, let's fix it. You know, I've actually also not read the book. - I good book.

- I thought I had read it and then watching the movie I was like, is this what happens in this book? I don't remember this at all. - I mean, the book is in second person, so it's a much different reading experience.

- Okay. - I love second person writing. A lot of people don't like it. - It's a very easy to fuck up. - You sparingly.

- Yeah. Here's a cool one. I feel that I really feel like you guys will just enjoy the idea of and maybe watch it. And I'm gonna watch it over the weekend, maybe?

Have you heard of this British comedy from 1983 called "Party Party"? - No. - It looks really cool. Everyone was kind of comparing it to like,

But it seems like it would be really cool

'cause it doesn't have an incredible soundtrack.

"Party Party", "Party Party" has a lot of images banana ram on it, really. - What's on the absolute beginner soundtrack? - This one came up a lot, but I actually haven't seen that movie,

which is what a very early old-man film, Gary Alman. David Bowie, the style of council, eighth wonder, more David Bowie, "Shaday, Jerry Damours". - It was a fun one, less. - Yeah.

“- Working girl I believe has a kind of a cool soundtrack.”

- Isn't that mostly Crowley Simon songs? - Yeah. - Okay. - We'll talk about it sometime. - Nothing goes.

- Just, yes, I hate Crowley Simon. - Okay, James, what was her partner that everyone thinks she wrote? - James Taylor. - James Taylor.

- Yeah. - No, this isn't Gary Alman. I haven't seen this movie. It's Julian Temple. - Yeah.

- But it's Eddie O'Connell, Patsy Kenset, James Fox,

and Bowie. - She's a special one, a legend. - The name for character in that film is "Crap Susette". - Really good bond type. - It is.

- You guys have seen Streets of Fire? - Did you mention that? - I wouldn't saw Streets of Fire. I can't claim to remember it. - Oh, I love it.

There's a huge song on it. What's the Dan Hartman song? Oh my God. - I can dream about it. - I can dream about it.

- Oh, you. - Which comes from that movie. I think that's a pretty cool movie. - Is that Walter Hill? - It's Walter Hill.

It's Walter Hill's kind of street rock musical. - Yeah. - I'm about like warring factions in a, you know, Helltown and Diane Lane is a place of rock and roll star. - She's so cool.

- But it's like two years after Fabulous Stains, too. So it was like kind of her doing that and pumping it up on steroids. - That's pretty cool, Michael Perry.

“I think it's just, yeah, yeah, I remember this now.”

- Yeah, it's pretty cool movie. Very stylish. I'm willing to focus back, I. - I'll see it. - I think we're starting to live in Diane LA.

- No. - That has a great soundtrack by Wage Chung. - But I had a blog one called "To Live in Diane in LA." - Was it about food? - Counterfeit money.

- Okay. - Like circa 2005? - Yeah, maybe six, seven. - Okay. - Right, right before the housing collapse.

- Right before the end run. Yeah, the housing collapse. - Right, and run. - Did you cover anyone on to live in Diane LA? - No.

- I didn't come up. - Also, and run was like, I think it was actually, no, and run was earlier, it was like 2003. - You know what they said about and run? - Nope.

- They named it documentary after them, the smartest guys in the room, which is obviously even spending the last couple hours with. This is the smartest guys in this game. - I've been spending both.

This is like the meanest guys in the room. - Wow, I don't know, I think we let you, I think we gave you, look at this, look at this slope there. - Because I don't even allow you. - I don't think you made it abundantly clear

coming into this, that this was gonna be largely oriented about what pods I want to make later. - It's not about what? It's about what am I able to make interesting things. - But that's about to serve.

Do you feel good about the 10? - I do, the only one I feel sad about not having this very dancing because you're an robin someone, she that episode, but just been 11. - I mean, if you put dirty dancing in,

there's just gonna be a waterfall of outreach. - It's so true. - From some shot of it. - You and Joanna, have you podcasted? - No, no.

- It would be the first time.

“- Then you should put dirty dancing on there.”

- Number 11, fans plan, we do things different. - On my IG, I'll be doing a long riff on. I can dream about you by Dan Hartman from Streets of Fire. - Do you think you'd ever get into front facing camera work? - I've been encouraged many times by Bill Simmons.

It's kind of fun. I mean, you have to like like it. I think Chris Ryan is like, "Well, I'm just checking me sometimes when I'm doing it."

But I genuinely like it. - This has been really a fruitful conversation. - Yeah, I think we've covered a lot of ground. Way more than was allocated with an episode of Construct. And that's fine with me, I love it.

Do you like a hang pod? Love a hang pod. - Okay. - You don't like it? - No, I do.

I'm most of what I do is so structured. - I don't know who's like the light. - You feel hot dogs, Tim Robbins and me. - But I think you gotta have both, and you're like, you know. - Yeah, I don't know, I'm not on a lot of hangs.

I don't call me for the hang. - I mean, I think it's not really a hang out of you. - If I do say so myself. - You bring it out of me? - When I am with you, you're like,

I can, I can, I can use it up the shoulders. - Come down a little bit. - Yeah. - Well, I feel like I'm in very good hands today. - You know what, it's like how we pat,

that's where you like your nervous system. - Sure, Chris, where you like your nervous system. - No, I mean, I'm generally doing just fine. - But you say that a lot to the point that it feels like the weighted off-protest too much.

- I don't know what it came from. - I don't know what it came from. - If it was like the stones, like if I flew into a mountain, if you would be doing just fine. - It would be absolutely devastating.

wouldn't even make a joke about that.

- I don't know.

“- Do anyone still listening at this minute of the bottom?”

- Yeah. - Who the real ones were just still fiercely masturbating. - You know, our three of cranking it. - Looking to practice. - Oh, back to it.

- It's like clock all the references he's made and they're trying to buy him a sauna so that he can do his into camera videos. - Oh, like, you know. - This yards I have to say are not the same as your fans

who constantly yell at me for being mean to you. - Well, I'm, you know, taking out, just saying. - What do you mean that says about you? - It says that I have many strong defenders. 'Cause they feel like you're weak.

- That's that way. - No, because I don't. - I'm doing it.

I don't fight back, because I accept that this is a part

of my personas to be the person that is picked on in this way. - That's a fact. - I would dispute the fact that he doesn't fight back. - Well, in the ways in which I could fight back. - Oh, man.

- You know, like, it's harmless. - No, no, no, it's not. - No, no, it's not. - There are a lot of ad hominim attacks against me. - Oh, yeah, online.

- No, the Lady Doth protest too much about everything being okay. I didn't hear. I didn't say anything like that about you.

“- Well, that's why there's defenders out there for me.”

- That's true. You asked the question. - You did. - I feel you get your hits in just more subtly. - Maybe so.

- Yeah. - I only ever feel support for you. (coughing) I do. - I'm glad you're really supportive of me.

I'm glad to hear that. - I wouldn't give anything to just have, like, a body swap day. And I get to be CR for a day. - 'Cause you'd feel so, like, rewarded and for that.

- Yeah, I feel like I would feel so confident. - No. - So felt, like, fulfilled. So adored. - I think one of the reasons why it's very easy for me

to be such a vocal advocate of Chris is because I know Chris. I really know Chris. And he is everything that he presents, but there's more.

(coughing) - And the more is. - Well, I wouldn't reveal that, okay. That's private. - That's what you're new and clothed.

- Okay, guys, this has been so fun.

“Thank you so much for coming to do this.”

I feel we got to a good list. - You got a good list. - I know it. I know I swayed it, obviously a bit more maybe more than a bit in the direction of what would make

good podcast episodes. But it's still think, it's pretty represented. - What's the one that's on there that you were like,

Lord, I never knew I would be making a pot about this.

- Footless. - Probably. - Okay, okay. - Thank you for listening and watching for some sort of band's plan.

Come back next week. - We're in your office, Owen. - What is it gonna be? It's just this trip from Angel Dust. - Yeah, next week is we're joined once again

by my best friend Chris Ryan, or we'll be breaking down the best music of Q1. - I prefer just to say that first three months of year. - It's not a full-time annual report. - And also, according to Trump,

we don't really need to do financial disclosures anymore. - Okay, well, Chris would prefer that we make it the first, the best music of the first three months of 2020, so it's a good roll right off the page. - Yeah, yeah.

- And we'll have an interview with just a strip of Angel Dust. So, you know what I'm gonna miss it? (upbeat music) - We liked what you heard today. Subscribe for more episodes of Band's Mine.

Our guests today were Sean, Phenisi, and Chris Ryan. This episode was produced by Rob Sunderman and edited by Chris Sutton with help from Justin and Sales. The video production by Sarah Reddy. Executive producers for Band's Mine

are Gina Delback and me, Yassie Solid. Our gorgeous and catchy themes on this composed and performed by Bethany Kousentino and Jennifer Clayman, and graciously recorded by Carlos Delagarza in Los Angeles, California.

Visual thanks to our producer, Meredith, producer Dylan, aka Dylan Tupper Rupert, and also Sean, Phenisi, and Sarah Patchkares. Come back every Thursday for a new episode of Band's Mine. On Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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