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I am joined today by David Sloan, I am a serial person. I know who you are. And you guys are huge advocates of the child. Can you tell the audience who you are in
in relationship to the show? David, why don't you go first? Sure. I'm the creative lead for ABC News long form, which comprises ABC News studios.
2020, nightline, and impact are other news magazines. So I'm the creative lead over content. And I'm your real person. I'm the executive producer over here overseeing your wonderful show, Andrea.
And yeah, I work really closely with David on a lot of the things that he's working on, but I work really closely with your producer, Jon Hirsch,
on making beautiful television out of your amazing podcast.
How did you guys get into true crime? David is the king of true crime. I'm passing that to you. I mean, I have been doing crime since I worked on 2020, 25 years ago, or maybe a little longer.
And I became the executive producer for 20 years. And it's farading out these stories of not only the most notorious. And it's like the seven deadly sins. I mean, why crimes are committed? It's jealousy.
It's envy. It's anger. These are universal kinds of feelings in humanity. But the eighth deadly sin is betrayal. It's almost the eighth deadly sin.
It's not in there along with gluttony and sloth and all of the other ones. But it really is one of the deadly sins. And again, it has a commonality where someone everywhere on earth has been betrayed by someone big or small. I'm so curious.
What made you guys interested in taking the weekly series and converting it to TV? Obviously, we've done Stacy's story, Jen's story, and Ashley's story.
Yes.
Let me do interested in the weekly format. It's been remarkable. These limited series on Hulu have been remarkably received and keep adding viewers all the time in terms of driving subscriptions on Hulu.
“And then we just thought, like, why are we doing this for the network?”
But you know what Dre is? What is really remarkable about this is we all ask about how transferable these kinds of stories and the popularity is between platforms. And I think what we've learned from your show and a couple others
is with a very, very powerful podcast that translates into network.
That translates into viewers on Hulu. And it is astonishing to me because there are very few things that migrate cross-platform with the success of betrayal. And we've seen it happen time and again, certainly with the Hulu series. And with the network series as well, your listeners, your audience are tuned in
to watch these stories as they evolve on television series. They're a very loyal community. And so it's really cool to see them support every phase of betrayal, whether it be when we went from limited to the weekly. And then when we launched the show on Hulu,
so it's really cool to see the feedback from the listeners and then advocate for the show and for the storytellers. What are some of the stories that you're looking forward to the most this season?
“I mean, obviously, I have my dark links, but I'm curious which ones are yours.”
I'm looking forward to the introduction. I mean, where do you get the story of?
First of all, the best stories have the,
the perpetrator or the husband as I will call him. He's really a perpetrator. The best villains are the ones hiding in play and sight. So this guy is a devoted father. He's a financial advisor who his clients trust.
He's an elder at their church. And to think that he also would get involved in abduction and ransom and a soundproof dungeon with victims, it's almost shocks the conscience. And it is really the ones who are hiding in play and sight
that are truly remarkable and the most frightening. What about you, Mary? I am looking forward to Morgan because Morgan is so spunky. Morgan is successful. Morgan is not going to let anybody take her down.
Morgan fights back as many of these women do. You don't have to be victimized. You don't have to take it from somebody. You can do something about it. And it is fascinating to me how a woman like Morgan kind of
shows you a little bit of the heart of darkness. Because one little theme that I've seen emerge from this series is a lot of men who really didn't feel comfortable with their wives success. That they really, who knows at what point they decided they wanted to take that down. But it was a power thing.
It wasn't just a betrayal thing, which is already awful enough. But it really raised questions in my mind about what the ultimate deep or darker motivation of some of these men was. Were they trying to take that woman down? It's such a great point when you watch Crystal Harris's episode.
You will find similarities between Sean Harris, which is Crystal's husband and Rodney. Morgan's ex-husband. Different scenarios. Crystal was the breadwinner.
She was working. He was taking care of the kids. And then he experiences loss. And he starts to change. The same story is very similar in Morgan's case.
It's really, it's to see things. Just, you know, to see those like themes come up in these perpetrators and they offend her. It's so fascinating. Yes.
The one thing I was going to say off your point day about these perpetrators hiding in plain sight is some of these stories are hiding in plain sight. I remember when Don Yell emailed us.
“I think her email was like three sentences long.”
And it was just like big fan of the podcast. You know, really quick in and out. You would have no idea what that woman went through. She just heard the show. She wrote in.
And you would never know that her husband at one point had
dungeon in a random rental property. You know, it's a real indication of you just don't know what someone has gone through or what they're going through. I'm so full of admiration to the class group because what you have done with the podcast.
And we've been lucky enough to meet you and to collaborate with you on the network. And on Hulu is that you've created a sisterhood. Yeah. You've created a sisterhood, not of just listeners.
But women who can can bear witness to stories like the other listeners. And it's very, very impressive and rare.
The fact that it keeps regenerating and really snowballing
into almost this sort of movement of women sharing these stories
“and taking power and empowering themselves.”
It's just this collective strain that I really admire all of you for bringing this about. Well, thank you for saying that. That means a lot to me. What I kind of love about this series is true crime in the past
has taken a little bit of criticism because it's been too much about the crime, the solutions of the crime where the perpetrator this brings it firmly into the space of the victims of the people to whom the crime is being perpetrated on. But I've got to say that there's something incredibly emotionally
compelling about constantly reframing the crime within that context between a woman's inside of a woman's point of view. Well, though I shouldn't just say a woman because I mean, we should tease it a little bit and read that we have a man. We do.
We do. We do. We do. We do.
And he was the first man that we had on the weekly.
And that was a watershed moment. Obviously, aside from Tyler on the, you know, the Hulu doc.
“It was, I think, Tyler really set a stage for men to”
participate in betrayal because I do think that there's a, there is a level of shame in every storyteller where they feel they are the only one that got duped. The only one that didn't see it. And I think for male storytellers, it's really hard in particular
and remain man is he not just so strong and willing. And just to stand on his two feet and take this is what happened to me. I am so grateful to both of you for believing in betrayal and just being a fan of the show and the stories. And so I can't thank you enough.
Mary, I'll do you want to tell the audience where they can find betrayal secrets and lies? The trail secrets and lies coming to the ABC News Network near use. Sunday's 10 o'clock Eastern Standard Time. Streaming on Hulu and Disney Plus afterwards.
Watch us and be part of that wonderful sisterhood. The David was talking about. Thank you guys. I really appreciate you taking the time. [ Music ]
On a recent episode of the podcast Money and Wealth with John Hope Ryan, I sit down with Tiffany the Budgeon Easter Alicia to talk about what it really takes to take control of your money. What would that look like in our families if everyone was able to pass on well to the people when they're no longer here?
We break down budgeting, financial discipline, and how to build real wealth
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