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“and the host of a new podcast, "I Think You'll Love,"”

burden of guilt season two. Meet my mentor, friend, boss, and the executive producer on Betrayal, Nancy Glass. So excited to work with you. Me too, I love this season, it's just so exciting.

And you're here to tell us about it. It's an unbelievable story that you've been reporting on. I've been working on it, but I've also been listening on the feed, and I don't want to give too much away, but I'll say this for people who don't know the story.

It's about two men whose lives intersect in New Orleans. One is Bobby Gumpray, who accuses the other domain Hudson of a violent crime,

but it's not at all what it seems at first, right?

That's right. What about burden of guilt season two, aligns with the Betrayal audience? What do you think this season has that you think, the Betrayal community would really

find fascinating or enjoy? That's a very good question. In my mind, the Betrayal audience is made up of people who connect emotionally with other people, people who care, and people who understand what injustice is all about.

And there was a massive injustice in the story when Germaine Hudson was identified as the perpetrator. This man was put away and lost half of his life because he was wrongfully convicted. That's one thing.

But what's worse is he was convicted of a crime that never happened.

He was convicted based on a fake story of a fake robbery, and he was given 99 years. It's astonishing. But the story of this crime in Louisiana doesn't end there, eventually all the lies come to light,

“and I'm curious, what part of this story really surprised you?”

The twists and turns are so strange, and the ultimate of this story is how the man, Bobby, who accused Germaine, his life, was destroyed by his choice. And then what he did to turn it around,

and how hard that was, on every level. I think what's so interesting about this season of burden of guilt, is this is something we actually talk a lot about on the trial.

I would love to be able to tell the story of a major act of contrition

or a men's in one of our betrayal stories. But so far they haven't existed. These bad guys, they don't apologize. They are not interested in redemption, 'cause they don't think they did anything wrong.

And in burden of guilt season two, that's a very different story. What's a really interesting story.

“But I think what's just as interesting is the character”

of these two men. I don't think we've produced a better show with cliffhangers than season two of burden of guilt. Every episode, you're just on the edge of your seat, and I have to say I just love, love, love this season.

And I think you guys did an incredible job.

Thank you, Dre. So here's this sneak peak of burden of guilt season two with Nancy Glass. I'm Nancy Glass. I've been a journalist for decades.

I've covered some of the biggest crime stories in modern times. I was on the scene of the Oklahoma bombings, attended the O.J. Simpson trial,

“and I interviewed serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.”

You might recall that on the last season of burden of guilt, we told the story of a remarkable woman, Tracey Raquel Burns. She was framed for the murder of her baby brother when she was just two years old. She spent decades looking for answers

and finally getting justice for her baby brother and for herself on this season of burden of guilt. I want to tell you another extraordinary story. When I began hearing about this story, I thought, I've heard that before

that somebody's convicted of a crime they didn't commit. But I was wrong because that's not this story.

This is something different, something I hope I never hear again.

This case has stolen lives to destroyed families, challenged legal systems, and in the end, it left everyone transformed. Maybe even redeemed. I true like Baptist Church in Yunus.

It's a small town in the southern part of Louisiana, known as the Prairie Cagin Capital. See being good. Every Sunday for 125 years, the congregation has met here in the same building.

Money, yes or can buy a clock. We can't buy your time. A true pastor will care for his congregation. The pastor's responsibility is to shepherd the flock. That's Pastor Germain, Tezano.

He's been leading the congregation at true light for 30 years. It's the kind of church where everyone knows everyone. Amen. Which is why Pastor Tezano remembers this one Sunday so clearly. It was in March of 2021 when he looked up from the pulpit.

He saw a stranger sitting alone in the back pew. I noticed somebody in the congregation sitting

“and in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, who invited you?”

He didn't have the best clothes on. You could tell he was on the street. I would say he looked broken. He was broken, but it would be years before the pastor understood why or what had compelled this man to walk into his church that day.

Pastor Tezano, I'd him closely. Your Caucasian and you are in the majority of American American church. Like what's your intentions? Pastor Tezano's thoughts jumped to the church shooting at Mother Emanuel AMA Church in Charleston.

In that case, a 21-year-old white man had been welcomed into Bible study only to later murder nine black parishioners hoping to spark a race war. And my think was like, it's not going to be that here. I would die for my sheep.

And when the service was over, he walked up to the stranger and extended a hand.

“I just took a saying, I said, "Can you meet me in my office?"”

The man agreed and they went into the pastor's office. Tezano asked one of his ministers, Dr. Leon Gallo, to join the conversation just to be safe. Rightfully so, because this was definitely someone no one had ever seen. Pastor Tezano and Dr. Leon learned that the man was homeless and had spent the night before in an abandoned house. They wanted to help him.

Dr. Leon stepped out of the room to start calling local shelters.

The man was having a hard time making eye contact with Pastor Tezano.

So, he asked the man for his name. He told me Bobby Gunray. Bobby Gunray, that was his real name, but he didn't say much else. We knew that he was an addict. We knew that he was traveling from place to place, but didn't really know a whole lot more. Bobby Gunray was actually there with a purpose.

So he asked me the question, "Do you do confessions?" I said, "Well, I'm not Catholic, but I'm like, "What's on your mind?"

“He was carrying a secret, a secret so terrible if felt like a thousand pound weight pressing”

down on his chest. He needed to make that confession. After 30 years on the job, Pastor Tezano had heard a lot of stories, but what Bobby Gunray told him left him speechless. I didn't respond too much because I was in shock. Pastor Tezano didn't know what to do with information like this.

Bobby had just confessed to a terrible crime, a crime that had destroyed lies including his own. The pastor would need time to make a plan. But in the meantime, he could help Bobby with his immediate needs. I said, "No, let's get you somewhere to stay overnight." There wasn't room in a shelter for him that night, so Pastor Tezano and Dr. Leon picked up some

essentials and paid for a hotel room at the day's in. He could take a shower and get a good night's sleep. After we got him the hotel, we got in in a circle and we prayed for him, and I told him, "I'm going to check on you the next day tomorrow." I went out and went back the next morning. The hotel management said, "He left." I was like, "What?"

“When Bobby left his secret left with him and until this story was exposed,”

another man's life would hang in the balance. This is season two of "Birden of Guild."

Episode 1, the first confession.

It's been over four years since Bobby Gumprite walked into that church. Back then, he had long greasy hair and a full beard. Today, Bobby looks dramatically different. He looks clean, cut, and healthy. But the choices he made as a young man are still there just under the surface. To understand what Bobby confessed to inside that church, we have to go back to the beginning of

this story. Now, you might consider what you're about to hear to be a villain origen story. It might be a blueprint for the making of a monster. You might hear this as the story of a little boy who didn't get the love he needed, or maybe you'll consider it to be a story of strength and redemption.

Meet Bobby Gumprite. I grew up in a military family, my dad was an a Navy. He was out to see quite a bit when I was real young. Robert Gumprite, Bobby's father, was a respected Navy captain. I was working on a four aircraft ship as an electronics technician.

In 1979, he married Debbie, and Bobby was born a year later.

“His voice is very weak due to an earlier cancer treatment.”

And because of that strain, we ask a voice actor to step in from here on out and read the transcript of his interview.

He's my only son, and I made a choice way back when that I would never have any more children,

other than him. So, he's always had my love and full support. But his parents didn't stay together. They got divorced when Bobby was three. Captain Gumprite got full custody of his son, Bobby. I never saw my mom again until I was in my 20s. As a kid, Bobby didn't understand where his mom had gone and why she wasn't around anymore.

My dad, at that point, had decided that it wasn't in my best interest to see her.

So, I spent a big chunk of my childhood in Virginia Beach, Virginia,

which is where he was stationed between the ages of like three and eight. Bobby was deeply wounded by his mother's absence. His father tried to fill the gap the best he could. I remember when he was very young and I was running him out to the child care in the morning, and I'd say, "Who loves you?" And he'd say, "You do." And I'd say, "Yeah, I do. I love you." And he would give me a big hug.

When Bobby was six, his father remarried. His stepmother's name was Sharon.

“She didn't have any other kids, so I was the only thing that she had.”

Sharon raised Bobby. She tried to fill in the role of a mother and love him unconditionally.

But when Bobby was in elementary school, something tragic happened in their home, a formative experience that would shape Bobby's worldview and influence the person he became. Around eight years old, I was at home with a friend of mine. You know, it was the afternoon. My mom, I think, was at school, and my dad was at work. And this was a friend of mine. A Joey. We were just playing after school. We played baseball together, and he was just in the

same neighborhood. And one day he was at my house and we got into my dad's room and found a gun and pulled the gun out and started running around the house with it. Got downstairs.

“We had a living room downstairs and a sliding glass door that went out to the back porch.”

And he went outside and shut the door. And I was standing on the inside of the door. The glass door. And I was kind of holding the gun like pretend and he was the robber. And I was the cop and I jumped out. And as soon as I jumped out, I don't know if I pulled the trigger, my finger slipped. I didn't know it was loaded. But either way, the gun went off. And shattered the door. And he was on the ground. Thanks so much for listening. Now you can binge the entire series and hear the whole story.

Listen to season two, a burden of guilt available on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, guys. It's us and the Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick and guess what? We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

Well, sick and tired of just a strong way to put it, but you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert's Michael and friends on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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And the psychology of your 20s is breaking down the science behind the biggest roadblocks we face.

“There was six years into my career, the 80 hour weeks, and just the first one in the last one”

out, and I ended up burning out. There was a large chunk of my 20s that I like was just so

wanting to like be out of that phase out of my skin, and I just like really regret not living in

“the present more. You don't need to have everything figured out right now. You just need to”

understand yourself a little bit better. Listen to the psychology of your 20s on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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