Kylie Jenner Rare Interview: Hollywood Ambitions, Fav Timothée Chalamet Movie & Kid Cudi Music

Kendall and I have been playing since since we were little and we're still playing it to this day. And we'll just play for like six hours.

“We'll face every other and we don't even really talk and then we just thought of a new idea.”

Now we make people that like we know. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] What up y'all! This is Big Bro with Kid Cutty, presented by Adobe Acrobat. I'm your Big Bro Scott for the live from the attic in my mind. Welcome to the first episode, the very first episode of Big Bro.

Now look, I created this show for you. All right, I want to put you on the dope shit and take you in the real life conversations I have on my favorite people. In this first episode, I'm sitting down with the global icon, my home girl Kylie Jenner. Now I've known Kylie for years and she's kind of like a little sister to me. We're talking about everything from her growing up on TV, to parenthood, and playing the Sims with her sister Kendall.

So I need y'all to kick back, bye-bye, and enjoy, see you on on the side. [MUSIC] I don't really do podcast. I know, so I was just like a really rare link up. I know, like I was like, I did research because I was thinking about who I could have on the show.

And you know, people that don't really do podcasts, and I saw that you've only maybe done your sister's podcast. But my first and only podcast, like five seconds ago. Oh, wow.

I never do this, but I'm trying.

Twenty-twenty-six, this last year really is all about doing things outside of my comfort zone. Right, right. Just to make life like a little bit more exciting. Then right, that's what it's about. Although it already really is, but it could be even more exciting.

So let's take it back. Let's take it back because do you think people are gonna think this is like a random link up? Yeah, I'll take it back. No, let's take it back. The first time we met, I don't even know if you remember this, is the Hunger Games premiere.

“I didn't remember this until you sent me those questions, because I was trying to think about how did we meet?”

Yeah, and I feel like I've just always known you. Yes, true. And I'm like, when did we meet? Yeah. The Hunger Games premiere.

Yeah, it was the very first time you and Kendall were interviewing people on the red carpet.

And you interviewed me and my buddy, Dot. And please, nobody pulled us up by the way. Do not. Put a clip of us in. Yeah, because we definitely know some of those things.

Because they were plastered at picture, right in the center. Exactly. Very embarrassing. Yeah, man. Throughout the years, we hung out.

A lot of crazy ass Halloween parties. Lots of crazy Halloween parties. The best costumes. The best costumes. The best costumes.

Best costumes. Definitely done my best work as your parties. Yeah. Yeah.

I've never seen the others.

But they were pretty always pretty good. Well, you know, I came to that one party in my fucking spacesuit. The full man on the moon, spaceuit with the glowing. The glowing thing was crazy. That was crazy.

Who made that for you? So this dude named Jose Hernandez. He pretty much does superhero movies, suits, Spider-Man, X-Men, and I'm so super legit. I've played them with him years ago.

He did, when I did the tour, I was in a spaceuit and he did the suit for it. And I just linked up when I'm to do a special suit for my last tour. And, you know, I spent so much money on the suit. I was like, man, this Halloween, let me just go ahead and throw that on and just start on it.

I'm like the amount of money I spend on these. Not only that costumes with the photo shoots, I've retired it. I'm like, I can't be doing it. It's a whole thing. Yeah.

It's a whole thing.

“So this set we talked about when we came in, right?”

It represents my mind, this is the attic in my mind. If we were in your mind, what would we see that represents the child, the younger, Kylie, you know, what would be in your world, three things? My attic would probably look like probably like my bedroom growing up, which was black and like lots of skulls everywhere and like dead roses.

You know what? Yes, I was a happy child, I wasn't like, I don't know why I'd like love to these things, but like my room was black, skulls everywhere, dead roses, just like the darkest black bedsheets, black bed, like black bathroom. She really little emo.

I was a little emo. Okay. And then you go in a Kendall's room and it's like perfectly clean, white, like minimalist,

And her house is kind of like the same vibe too. Like when we had the Halloween party at her house, like it's just like immaculate, like white walls, just for steam. Yeah. So it's dope.

She kind of kept that same aesthetic. Yeah. She did. She did. She never switched up.

Who did young Kylie think was the coolest, like actors, celebrity, like musician, like who did you like obsess over? Who was like on your wall? I mean, the people that I thought were really cool and I'm not just saying this to be cheesy, where it was like my family.

Yeah.

Like I always thought my family was just so cool.

Even when I was younger and we would go places and like just like, you know, everyone like loved them, especially when I was like eight, nine and I just like I thought they were so cool. Yeah, that's so dope. I still think they're so cool.

That's so dope. That's so dope. I want to say congrats on your acting debut. Thank you. Yeah.

You're in the moment. Yeah. Yeah. How did that come about?

“Like, and are you, have you thought about having a career as an actor?”

I think it was a childhood dream of mine, like I would do a lot of plays and stuff. But I never, my life just wanted a different direction. Like I had my makeup line and that's really my passion. And I just, I never really thought about it again. And like I said, this last year has just been doing things outside of my comfort zone.

And I know the director ate in.

We wanted to do a project together. I didn't work out. And then we kind of just became friends through that. And he told me he was working on this. And I was like, wow, what an opportunity for me to do something and feel so comfortable doing

it. Yeah. Because I didn't even know where to start, you know, so I had the best time. I felt like I was in safe hands. Yeah.

Yeah. And I had the best time. And I would totally do more. You would definitely do more. So this is something you would do.

Yeah. That's dope. I don't know where I'm going with it. Yeah.

“Because I'm curious, like, what roles would you do?”

Like, what is something in your mind that you could see yourself doing?

Like, probably something in comedy. Okay. 2000s vibe or something. Yeah. Super bad.

Yeah. Kind of vibe. Yes. I think I would thrive. Yeah.

And showing my personality, I think I would want to do that. So many of you got to write that movie. Yeah. Where does that now? Where does that now, guys?

Call me. Did you feel like you were preparing to play yourself or was it a different version of you? It was a different version of me for sure. Okay.

I think I was way bichier than I probably would have because then I would ever be. But that's always fun. Yeah. It was like a heightened version of myself and just leaning into, like, I don't know. I guess funny like stereotype or something.

Yeah. What inspired you to get in the music? Another thing I didn't think was going to happen. But the song that I did was strike is really a, it's like a part to, to the song three strikes that I did.

It was like a promotional video for my lip gloss back in 2016 or something. 10 years ago. And I did this promotional lip gloss video. It was like, almost like a music video. Like I was living out my dreams and we shot this whole thing.

And we were like, what song are we going to use? Like, this will make sense if we use, like, you know, a known artist or something. So we, the director knew this band, Tara Jr., they gave us this song. And then it kind of became like this King Kylie theme song. And a lot of people thought it was secretly me singing on it for like 10 years.

And even the band kind of led into it. And then anyway, so 10 years later, I did like a 10 year anniversary. So I did a part two to the song and then now it's actually me singing on the song. So it's just like a full circle moment. But that was so fun.

I would absolutely do more of that too. Yeah. Do you think there's an album down the line, like, I mean, I just don't know. Are you going to help me or something? I can, that look, I can help you.

Is this why I'm here? Yeah, like this is, this is not just for the podcast talk. I will tell the executive producer out. Okay. We're working on the vibes.

We'll talk about what you want. No, I heard it.

“You know, I mean, but like what would a Kylie Cutty song sound like?”

You know, I mean, like, if we did, if we did a record together, like, what would be the subject matter? Are we going back? What would be the subject matter? Are we going back to 2016?

We can. You know? I mean, that was a really dark time for me, but we could talk about, we could talk about the struggles. I think people would love to hear you talk about, you know, a little bit of your struggles

Yeah.

“You know, I mean, like, and that was kind of like, I think you should keep that mind”

as your angle when you're becoming this artist is kind of like, what will you unveil that people don't know just hearing the interviewers see do things in your other realms in your life, you know? Because I find that a lot of my fans, the reason why I've seemed to do well over the years is because my fans, you know, they love the music, but they also know who scotties.

They understand who I am as a person. Like, it's not just like, because you know, you see like some people fan out over other rappers or other people, and they do music, and it's kind of like a surface thing. But like, people are really invested in me and my well-being and if I'm okay, it's like

this, you know, like when I get married, people were so happy because they know first off

that, like, I'm a lover, and they know how badly I wanted that in my life, you know? So it's really nice when you have that, and I feel like you get that when you're open with them. Yeah. Made it like this personal relationship.

Yeah, yeah. And then this one reason why I named this podcast Big Bro, because this is how I feel I am to a lot of people, you know what I mean? And it's really dope, man. I feel really blessed at what 18 years in the game. Like, I'm still like connecting with fans by the go on tour for sure.

You know, like, it's dope, it's dope, you know? But that's cool that you want to do more, and I am down to help with the album. Wow, I'm producing that. I'm producing that. I'm producing that.

That would be a dream. I'm going to play you a record. Okay, play me a record.

I'm going to play your record.

I have been back to the studio. Really? I've been back, and I've tried a few things. Okay. Just, you know, trying to find like, yeah, find your voice.

My sound. Yeah. Everything was like kind of like, dark in the slow. Really, really, really. And I had to like take a break. Where is this color from?

Because I don't think this is me. Yeah. You know, everything was kind of a little so maybe it's because I feel like my voice. I'm not as comfortable singing at a high. Right.

You got to find that the new couple of people pocket, even with me, because like, I had to take a step back and realize, like, man, I don't in my mind, think that I'm a singer.

You know, I mean, people have been hearing me sing my whole career.

“But like, in the back of my mind, I never like, when I think of singers,”

I think like, you know, the weekend or like, you know, I mean, like, people that really sing, I feel like I just kind of carry a note and I just kind of do a tone that is comfortable for anybody to sing along to. That's how I kind of feel it is. So I think our song would be perfect.

Hell yeah, hell yeah. I mean, the thing is to come up with some catchy, some that people connect with. Yeah. You know, but did we shoot a cool video, you know what I mean? That would be fine.

That would be fine. But I want to play you this song. Okay. Can we get it to that? Yeah, let's play it.

Are you going to show this to the world? Yeah. This is a world premiere. And a lot of people have been checking from my music and I've been a little secret of about it.

But I feel like we're doing the podcast as well like leaks some shit. Custom vibes. Okay.

“So this one is called When I'm Down, I produce this, I think a year and a half”

two years ago. Okay. And yeah, it's a vibe. Here we go. Yeah.

It's super happy. Yeah. I like it. Yeah. Yeah.

I love it. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I love it. Thank you. Thanks, guys.

I love it. Yeah, man. The beat is so funny. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. I like to feel like I have a specific sound and nobody can kind of put together a beat like me and I love that like now this new chapter. I'm more so focused on producing myself. You know, I've worked with a lot of producers in my career, a lot of dope guys and I've

been able to like watch and learn closely and now I'm just like, man, I think that's something people miss from me, you know, like I produce into cut all by myself and I was like, man, I kind of want to quarterback this whole thing, you know, I feel like this is like only

I totally agree.

I can't wait to hear more.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. This is Dick and around.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's like maybe one of four rap records I got. Yeah. Because I'm not like, I'm not in album mode right now. Like I'm just kind of, because I have a couple things to direct this year and then I have the tour and now I kind of want to direct them right more and that's kind of like my focus

for this year. Amazing. So maybe next year, you know, I might be, might be something that comes, it depends. I'm just kind of like stacking up records at this point. Nice.

You know what I mean? Like no pressure.

“I find that that's like the best way to do it.”

Like when you immediately announce an album then the pressure's on. You know what I mean? And if it doesn't come out in a year, you're going to have fans hitting you up every single fucking day. Like where's the album?

Where's the album? And I do not want people to check it for that right now. You know what I mean? I just dropped the album last year. Yeah.

Yeah. And I have 13 albums. Yeah. No, yeah. You can relax.

You deserve to relax. Yeah. But like three or four years. I can do it. Yeah.

And then no, it'll be okay. Yeah. Which is like, you know, there's also kind of like a positive side to that, because you can take the time and really create what you want and also like people like when it drops people are like, yeah.

Yeah. That's been three years. Yeah. Like they're so hungry for it. It's like you let them, you let them miss you for a little bit.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's kind of like what most people tend to forget because people are like, oh, I gotta be now. I gotta stay relevant.

I gotta stay on top. I gotta keep going. Keep going. But there's an art to just, you know, pacing yourself.

And I don't know, I'm just constantly been creating throughout the years and I'm always

been prepared to drop an album every other year. But now I'm just like, but all these new things I'm trying to do like directing and writing movies and things like that, like I just want to kind of pivot for a little bit and just do something else. Yeah.

I love that.

“And I think that's where you're at right now in your career too.”

Totally. Something about the year or the horse. Yeah. I heard about the year or the horse. Yes.

I have something about it. I want to talk to you about fame and how do you handle it? Um, I don't know if there's like a perfect recipe to that. Yeah. Because everybody circumstance is different.

Yeah. I, I'm really proud of myself. I think I've done a really good job, especially being, you know, we, we started the show when I was nine years old and I look at my daughter and she's eight. And I'm like, oh my god, you were here in a year.

You'll be the age that I was when I was so exposed to all of this and such a, although it was different times than there was no Instagram that was still, um, but yeah, I think that just like protecting the things that I feel need protection or just like parts of like my personality or I don't know. Maybe you feel like that too, but it's just like my relationships and yeah, I just try to

just protect myself and I have really thick skin. I think. Yeah, which is, it was just must need it, which is much needed. Yeah. I kind of know if there's like a bad story or something, it will come and go.

I have my family, I have my kids that I go home to that I'm like, love me so much and have no idea what's going on in this world. Yeah. They definitely keep me grounded surrounding yourself with good people. Yeah.

How do you think your relationship with fame has changed throughout the years, have you grown up?

Well, you, you talked about how like you have thick skin, was that always the case, did you

have to develop that on the time? You know, kind of going through things and learning.

“I think I always had thick skin, but I mean, it's definitely evolved as a cotton holder.”

Yeah. I actually think as I've gotten older, maybe it's felt more personal or something. I don't know. Yeah. I think there was a shift when, and maybe it's just the way social media is now and all the

platforms and all the information and all the, it's like so many more people have access to you to judge you and say all these things about you and I. And when I was like 16, 17, like Instagram was getting popular. Right. Right.

I wasn't really looking at comments about myself. I think that's where that's where it can go.

It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

I wasn't really looking at comments and I really like I didn't care.

I definitely had this like fuck you attitude. Yeah.

“And that's kind of like how you, you have to be a little rock and roll.”

Yeah. That's real. You can't. Yeah. The rock star was there from the very early age.

Yeah. So that and then yeah, as I got older, I think it started to affect me more or something. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, I think when you're young, you're a little naive to the bullshit in the

world and you get older and you start to realize like, oh shit, like it's kind of fucked up out there. Yeah. It's like the perfect mirror to society sometimes, you know what I mean? Yeah.

It's like the ugliest things on social media and it's just, you know, like my daughter's 15 now and she has her Instagram page with his private and she has to take talk with his private and you know, I just know that now at this age, she's consuming a lot more shit than I did at 15. Yeah, of course.

I mean, and it's like, you want to give them access.

You want them to have freedom, but it's a very scary thing. I think about it all the time. Yeah. And like, call you when stormy turns 15, I'm like, I don't know how I'm going to handle it.

Yeah. And it's really wild man because it's like, you know, your kids are going to go to school and then all their friends are going to have phones and you want your, you don't want your kid to feel left out and like you want them to have that relationship with their

“friends where they're all talking on their phones and communicating, you know what I mean?”

But it's just, you know, as parents, you want so badly to protect your kids, you know, I mean, and now my daughter, like, she's 15, like, she can see the shit on like, if I get arrested tomorrow, she will see that shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

So like, it's, it's, it's really a gnarly thing, man. It's something that we're all learning now because it's a new thing. You know what I mean? Social media hasn't been around that long. It's still kind of like we're still figuring it out, you know?

And people are still like just learning how to navigate this with their children. Yeah. You know what I mean? We don't know how it's going to affect them. No.

And that's really scary. Yeah. Yeah. It's a wild thing to think about. Yeah.

You know, that brings me to my next question. I kind of wanted to talk to you about motherhood, you know, and juggling being a mom and the business woman, you know, how has that been for you throughout the years? Just kind of finding that balance? Yeah.

It's definitely a lot because you wake up early. I wake up like seven a.m. That's it. That I wanted to talk about. That's a whole lot.

I had that as a section. I'm ready. I told the producers. I was like, I'm going to text Kylie one day. It was two circumstances where I texted in the morning because when I wake up in the morning,

yeah, I was like, I was like, I wake up in the morning and I have a bunch of people that

“I have to head up and I text in the morning before I forget, right?”

So I don't expect anyone to respond because it's early in the morning, but I text Kylie like seven, 30. Okay. She hit me right back. Two minutes later.

I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. A lot of people. Yeah. But it makes out.

I was like, it makes sense. She's got kids. You know, like, you know, when you got kids, you're up at the break of dawn, you know? If I don't wake myself up, they're waking me up. Exactly.

But I'm, I also like to be up 20 minutes before. 15 minutes before. Yeah. I get up before. Yeah.

To get prepared, man. Yeah, yeah. Because when the kids do that, it's a whole thing. Then it's like, yeah, I want to have my coffee. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, get a little dressed. My wife is like that.

She's always like, don't talk to me until I have my coffee.

Yeah. You know, and it's, it's, it's really night and day. Like, if it's, I've talked to her before she has that first sip, it's a whole other beast. It is. Coffee triggers no.

Yeah. Do you drink coffee? No. I'm not a coffee drinker. That is.

I used to do this. I need to send you this, my favorite coffee. Oh, what is it? It's like sugary. Okay.

But is it like bad for me? Probably. Okay. I need to send you my favorite coffee. Yeah, man.

I'm down. I'm down. I'm going to let you take me into this coffee journey. Yeah. But on my orders, just I get a latte.

Okay. Hot latte. Um, with oat milk and vanilla. Okay. Yeah.

That's pretty, is that a pretty basic order? That's pretty basic. Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause I see like sometimes people go to like order coffee and they're like,

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All right, let's get back into it. How is being a mom changed you for the better? It's definitely changed me for the better. Just like that love and discovering, rediscovering, like, wonder through their eyes.

It has been amazing, and I was young when I had my first baby.

So I feel like I was just entering adulthood. And I never really left that. I still like Christmas morning. Like I never had a, I never left that, you know, holidays and birthdays in the excitement of like being a child.

It's like, yeah. So it all happened so fast, but that and then just like the sense of, um, purpose, yeah, you're here for a reason, and they're like my whole world. I love it. How would you describe your parenting style?

I didn't think that I would be, but I, I'm the strict one. You're strict. I think I'm the strict one. Okay. I have a good balance.

Okay. I have a great relationship. I feel like my daughter who's a little bit older, she can definitely talk to me about anything, but she, you know, she has like this big personality. Yeah.

So I, I have to, like, keep her kind of in check. Yeah. Cause she was like, she will, like, push her boundaries. Of course they all will. Yeah.

You know, you know, especially when they're really little, because they want to figure out like, okay, who can I get away with shit with? Totally. You know what I mean? It's all it.

It's all a test. She's testing. And me, I was the sucker for it, you know, like, there was nothing that I wouldn't do

“for Veda, like, you know, like, if she wanted something, I'd be like, okay?”

Like, I'm the one time she, um, her mom told me that she had requested an American girl doll. And I'm like, okay, uh, I'm like, get her an American girl doll. So I go to the American girl doll store and they have, fucking place at units and, like, all, all these different dolls, all these different skin colors, all three backgrounds.

And I'm like, oh, man, so all right, we're going to get Veda. I found one that she wanted and I was like, push, she's got to have a friend. And he got to, like, hang out. So you got to get her two friends, right? We'll get this girl, and then we get this girl, oh, and they got to have a place

to hang out. We got to get the first set and I was like, I was, I must be like, maybe, a couple racks in there at the store, right?

And, you know, I, I just, I always, when I had Veda, the first thing on my mind was just,

like, I want to make sure that her experience is a much better one than the one I had. You know what I mean? Like, I don't ever want her to, like, need nothing. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean?

Like, that, that was, like, my main goal.

“Yeah, I think my, my brother is like that, too, with his daughter, like, he cannot say no.”

Yeah, I'm saying it. And you'll come to me and I'm like, you don't, this is just my advice. I think that, every parent, like, you just know as they're hit the best. But I was like, it's, you could still give her everything, but just, like, not right away. Right.

Say, say, okay, if you have an amazing week at school, and then like, give it to her on Friday,

Yeah.

No, but give it to her, but like, just make her wait like a little bit.

You didn't a day or an hour, like, you know, to look forward to and work towards. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, even just being like, hey, you know, let me see a report card and then we can talk. Yeah.

But my daughter is just like, it's so fucking annoying because she's getting straight A's. It's like, fuck. You know what I mean?

“I was like, like, do something wrong, you know what I mean?”

Yeah. So I have to keep rewarding her. It says, okay, I got a buyer card, no, it's like, it's a whole thing. But it's, it is being a girl that specifically is, you know, such a blessing. You know, I found this softness in my soul, what my daughter was born.

And I was 26 when I had her and when I had her, when her mom had her.

You never know. But I was up. That's not how it happened. That's not how it happened. It's just, it's just, it's a whole thing, it's all thing.

I mean, we were, me and my wife were talking about having kids and I'm like, all right, I'm gonna be in the room and I'm gonna be like, watch everything and make you sure you're okay and she's like, babe, it's gonna be kind of intense. I don't know if you're gonna be able to stand there and I'll say, I'm cool, cool. She's like, you're gonna faint.

And I'm like, I'm gonna faint. Like, I'm like a faint. What do you mean? She's like, you're gonna fucking faint, just my dad fainted twice with me and my brother, you're gonna faint.

“Didn't watch the first, did you watch the birth of your dad?”

No, no, no, because my daughter was a month premature. So my plan was, I was going to go to Chicago to stay with Jackie two weeks leading up to when she was due. Okay. I mean, to spend time with her and be with her and all that, you know.

But like a month premature and I was traveling somewhere, I wasn't in town, so I couldn't get there that day, but I got there the next day, right? So I didn't see any of the labor, you know, which I was really bummed about, but my daughter, my daughter, you know, she wanted to get here fast, you know. I think you should watch the next time.

Okay. I think it's like really beautiful too. Okay. So I'm going to tell my wife, I'm like, how do you say that if you watch so? I don't know.

Okay. I can't really, forget I said that, it's a tour. No, I'm using you. It is her decision. I'm using you as excuse, I'm going to be like, how do you say it on the podcast?

I mean, you play the tape. Yeah, put it like I see right here. Have your kids had any moments when they realized that they're in the spotlight? Yeah. Yeah, of course, I think it's like super, maybe normal to them, but my-

At least point it's normal. It's pretty normal. Yeah. I think, you know, they see people like come up to me and, like, ask me for photos and my son, not so much, my daughter for sure now.

Yeah. She asked me the other day. She said, how, why are we famous? Why is our whole family famous? Because that's crazy, I'm like, actually, let me try to-

Yeah, I'm all proud of you. Just me and this easier to explain to the kids, but like, when does everybody- I don't love these famous, I'm like, oh, yeah, so do that. And I'm like, you know, but I think now that she's in school, she's asking more questions. I don't know if she's going to school and other kids are saying something, I don't know.

Yeah. Because I think, you know, she says some kids are like fans of her dad and stuff. So I think it's becoming, you know, more present in her mind. Right. But she said, why are we famous?

And I was like, I started, I'm like, we started a television show when I was a year older than you.

“And that's why we're all in this together because we were all on the show together.”

She was like, can I watch it? And I'm like, sure. Oh, that's so dope. So we saw the kids watching the show was great. Yeah.

I turned on the first episode, some things I didn't realize were like inappropriate.

So, right, I was like, right when I knew that it was about to start playing, I like, fast forward through all the inappropriate stuff. But I show, I showed her like a cute scene of like a house party that we had and like, just some little things that I knew were fine. She was like, okay, Mommy, when can I watch episode two?

And then she kind of left the room. I was so emotional after like, I don't know what hit me, but I was like, weeping in my bad. I don't know why that happened to me. I was just like, maybe it's like my daughter being the same age as I was. Yeah.

And just seeing like my family and I'm like, you know, just be feeling so grateful for all that

And like, but also morning like that closeness and we were all kind of living under the same

roof. Yeah. Yeah. It was very emotional. I didn't know it was going to hit me like that.

Well, thing that at any given moment, you can go back and see yourself as a kid and what that's like, like, see, I don't have any video tapes of my childhood when I was younger. I only have photos. Yeah.

So it must really be nice to just be able at any given time to like time travel. Yeah. It's like these super public home videos. Yeah. Super dope.

It's a blessing. And it's like, this is me at nine. Yeah.

“You know, what's the hardest part about keeping those boundaries for your kids?”

You know, like, separating the madness outside in the world and your career and keeping it kind of normal with them. I think I do a really good job. There's some things that I just can't control, like, when we go out in public and stuff like that.

Yeah. And, you know, show kind of tell me now what she wants to do and what she doesn't want to do. Yeah.

And just never feeling like this is like, there's, you know, I never put her in, I don't

know, I, I try my best. I really just try my best because sometimes I go through a year of like, I don't want to post a picture of them and I don't want them in. And then yeah. And then there'll be something where I'm like, oh, it's fine to post this picture.

And I don't know, I kind of go, I go back and forth. Yeah. But it seems like you have a nice balance. Yeah, I do. I mean, like, and that's great, you know, because the, the young mind is very

sensitive in this world that we're in is fucking crazy. And it's hard to explain to the youth to the baby sometimes. Yeah. You know what I mean? And especially like, when my daughter was really little, she was a, I saw she was like

piecing it together. Mm-hmm.

“And I remember when I bought her on stage one time, the first time I bought her on stage.”

Like, I was worried, I was like, okay, I wonder if she's going to be freaked out by this crowd because we're in a arena. And my mom brings her out and she gives her to me. And my daughter is just like looking at the crowd with a very, like, okay. I don't want to want this to be as much as all these people here, like no fear, like

totally just like, oh, it's interesting. And I was like, do you want to say something, do you want to say, say that, that, and she's like, that, that, that, and the crowd went crazy. I have to like, look this up. Oh, yes, online.

It's online. So I took her out when when she was two, that was the first time, and I brought her off again when she was three. And she's saying day and night in that, that second time. That she was just a bravest little kid, like, not faced.

And I, you know, actually talked about this before, like, I'm really curious to have conversations with my daughter when she's like a grown woman and just kind of talked to her, like, whoa, was your experience, like, growing up, you know, my daughter and seeing my life play out and all the shit that I do and, you know, because I think at 15, she can't articulate that.

She can't really explain to me what all this means and makes her feel, you know, I mean, I think I need to wait to she's a little bit older where she can really, you know, let me know, like, hey, dad, it was kind of crazy when this happened.

I never told you, I was only 12, but like, this was crazy.

Well, you're gonna tell me. Yeah.

“On the low, what she says, 'cause, like, that's what I mean.”

That's hard. It's really hard to navigate. Yeah. Yeah. And even, like, you know, I was all in the news with the, the Diddy trial and all that shit

was going crazy. And like, during that moment, like, I know my daughter saw someone, you know, I mean, I know she saw that shit and it's like, I can't, I can't, like, protect her from that. Like, it's, it's, it's something like that happens and it's like, huge news and everybody's talking about it.

Did you talk to her about it? I had to explain, um, I think we had a conversation about it, you know, um, I feel like it's just about creating a safe space to be able to, like, if she does, see something to come to you and ask? Yeah.

Maybe it's just about having that conversation, you know, I definitely should have that conversation because she is the type where she will see something and then not say anything to me.

Because she feels like it's out of line or she doesn't want to, it is weird to talk about

sometimes. Yeah. Well, it's just, it's crazy, man, it's, you know, we're navigating something that only a few people really get a chance to do, really have to do, you know, um, but, uh, it starts with us, right?

It's just for the parents. You raise them right, you know, guide them, give them, give them the rules of life, you know what I mean? If you're not as old, don't be a dick, you know what I'm saying, like it goes back to what you were saying about kindness, you know, it's kind of like, that's pretty much what

your family was teaching you, it's not to be a dick, like this be nice to people, and that goes a long way.

“Um, let's talk about Kylie cosmetics, like, let's take it back, like, how did this happen?”

You know, where did this idea come from? It came from, like, 15-year-old me, I was obsessed with makeup, I, I think I started, I mean, I know. I started creating, like, this band based, like, this very personal relationship with these young, you know, people, and I would go, you know, to the max store, and I would

go to the mall, and I would, like, buy all these lip liners that I wanted to, like, you know, overline my lips, and, and then I realized, like, you know, my followers started becoming obsessed with, like, what color lipstick I was wearing, and I think that's when it was, like, because there really wasn't something I found out there that was, like, my perfect thing, and a lip liner that matched the lipstick and the lipkin, I just, like, I really wanted

to do this, and I was always really passionate about makeup, like, I would be, like, 12-years-old

on YouTube, when YouTube first came out, like, watching tutorials and wearing, like, a purple eyeshadow and sixth grade, and, like, so it just really was super authentic, and I, I brought my mom, the idea, Chris Jenner, she, one day, like, drove all around California, like, we just didn't know kind of what we were, like, we didn't know where to start. Right.

So it was, you know, hard to just kind of figure out how we were going to do this, but we found a factory in Oxnard, and, you know, I just, like, put up all my own money that I made from the show, and I owned 100% of my company, and I just, like, went for it, no fear, and my mom was, like, this is either going to be really great or you're going to have lots of lip kits in the garage.

Yeah. And, you know, it was, I just had so much faith in it, like, I really believed in it. But as dope, that you, like, you know, a lot of people don't take the big swings in life. Yeah. You know what I mean?

People would like play a safe. Yeah. You know, and you see my somebody that takes the big swings, which is dope, yeah. You know, I'm definitely the same way, like, tell me a little bit, like, if you're a project marketing and social media, like, how does that all work together, like, what's

your grand scheme? Well, it's totally different today than it was than, because I remember my mom even saying

to me, like, we were probably a week away from the first launch, and I was like, she was,

like, so, you know, what are we going to do? What's the marketing plan? Like, do we need to hire someone?

“Like, are we going to do a billboard or this or that?”

And I was just, like, no, I'm just going to post an Instagram. Like, that wasn't even a thing. Right. Right. Right.

This is where my fans are, and like, this is what I'm going to do. She's like, okay, like, good luck. Basically, she didn't not believe in me. She was, like, a great support system. She just didn't understand, like, what else was a new thing?

It was a super new thing. Yeah. So, I just, like, no budget. I just, like, posted a picture of the lip kits on Instagram, and it was just, like, launching at this time.

And, you know, it just, people didn't do that at the time. But now I mean marketing is so different.

“Now it's like you have to get really creative because it's super, like, over saturated”

but in the best way, like, I love it, too. Yeah, yeah. But you know, like, you've built a fan base of loyal customers that love your products. Yeah. You know?

And 10 years later, I mean, I'm just, like, so grateful because I really love it. So I go to work every day in the office, and I'm just like, I can't believe I get to play with makeup all day. Also, you be going to the office. Oh, I'm super involved, like, really crazy about everything.

I mean, I do the Instagram, I, like, myself, like, I do all the posts, I do all the marketing, all the shoots, picking the models, all the makeup, all the formulas, all knowing all

Yeah. Oh, man. I didn't know that. It's hard for me to, like, hand it off. Yeah.

Because it's my baby. Yeah. And that's true, like, when you, like, I find that I'm learning that too now with things that I'm working on. Like, I feel like, you know, it might seem like a heavy lift to other people, but like,

when you have a vision, and you know how things are supposed to be, it's kind of like you have to quarterback the shit, you know what I mean, to make sure it's executed in the right way. Totally.

“How important do you think authenticity is for people to connect with your brand?”

I think it's, like, the most important thing.

Yeah. I think people can tell when it's not authentic, and I think that's like the reason why it was so successful because people knew my love for makeup and lipstick, and yeah. Yeah. I felt legit.

Village it. Is there any advice you've gotten in your career that you think was just, like, the best shit ever to hear in my career? Yeah. Because you had to get some advice for, like, like, you're, like, a super business woman

entrepreneur. You know, I mean, somebody had to give you some guidance to, like, you know, get you into that space. I mean, a few things that just off the top of my head kindness, I think gets you really far.

And watching my sisters, especially when I was younger, be so kind to everyone that they worked with, was really inspiring to me because then it, you know, you build these relationships and you, um, you know, you're like, you would do a great photo shoot in that photographer.

Then tells everyone, oh my gosh, it was so amazing to work with and it opens up this more

opportunities and I really feel like that's a huge reason why my family and my older sisters became so successful as because they were just so kind to everyone in great to work with. Yeah. So that was really inspiring and something I carried with me and then, um, probably just like the energy that I'm having now, just trying not to let anyone's, like, opinions

about me affect my dreams, like, I want to look back on life and be like, oh my God, I had the world of my hands and I didn't like take the opportunity to do all these things that I've dreamt about, you know, when I like lost my chance, basically. Yeah. So that's become a fear of mine and I'm really like, there's something that happens when

you're front to look develops in your turn, like, in your late 20s or something and you think, I don't know. Yeah. There's some of your proudest moments as a businesswoman.

“Honestly, like, customers being really happy, like seeing and seeing a organic video on TikTok,”

that isn't a paid ad and someone really loves the product.

Yeah. Like it's not like they were paid to do it. Yeah. And that makes me really happy. That's really satisfying.

Yeah. Let's go. What's the biggest lesson you learned about being a business owner in that time? Because I'm sure there were a lot of ups and downs. Lots of ups and downs.

A lot of trauma in the era since it's, like you said, it was a new thing. Yeah. I think that, you know what, lesson was, to, you know, sometimes like, if people were pushing me to put out something that wasn't ready, or I felt like it wasn't ready, I kind of would listen our follow this, like, schedule, and now I'm, like, hard now.

Yeah. It's not ready.

“I would rather wait four years than drop it when it's not ready, you know?”

Or, or not drop it at all. So I think just having, having that mentality is like, just making really making sure everything is perfect and there's not, like, no slip ups. Would you say you're a perfectionist? I can't see, like, I'm stressed.

Yes, perfectionist, or, like, meticulous, like, you know, very, like, very particular. Detail oriented. Detail oriented. Yeah. With everything, like, my outfits, my hair, my, this, my, you know.

Yeah. I remember when I, when I hit you up about doing the podcast, he was like, I got to get the ground squat ready. I was like, "Oh, that's right." Yeah, it was just right.

He got it to get this show up, like me, going to fucking T-shirt, just press my teeth, go out the door. Yeah. I find that being a perfectionist is to some people, you might seem like a crazy person. You know?

I say this all the time.

Yeah, man. It's crazy.

It's, man, when you're, when you're focused and you have a vision, you know, sometimes

“it, look, that's what it's about, right?”

You want to make sure the product that you're making is the best thing that it can be. You know what I mean? Yeah. And we were talking about music and the fact that I'm kind of taking my time with it,

and I just want to make sure I have the time to make sure it's the best shit it can be. 100%. This is the end of the show when we do the wrap-up, right? We'll just, these rapid-fire questions, what is your morning routine?

We know you were early bird, you know, 7 a.m., you get started. Coffee. You respond to text messages. Coffee. We know that.

Mm-hmm. What else is there? And then I check on my kids. Okay.

I know that my daughter's going to school, my son is having a breakfast.

Mm-hmm. Um, I like on fire in the morning. [laughter] When you text me back after two minutes and I texted you the 7 a.m., I was like, okay. Yeah.

I survived. I'm like, then I'm, you know, after I have my morning and my coffee and my kids, then I like, we'll check my phone, you know, there's usually, I work from my phone, too, which is kind of weird. Yeah.

I don't really have a computer like that. Same. I'm very, really. I started writing scripts again, so I'm using a laptop, but like, for years, I just operate off my phone.

Yeah. So that kind of feels weird because it feels like I'm doing something wrong. But I do some work off my phone and then I usually, like, at the office, like, the rear four days a week, whether it's meetings or photo shoots and so then I'll head off to work.

No. What is your favorite movie attendees? I need to know. Like, what's the one movie? That's hard for me because I feel like I really love them all.

Yeah. But call me by your name is pretty, like, perfect. It's just pretty perfect. And I really love the dooms. Yeah.

The dooms are strong. I'm ready for that new one in December. Me too. I'm ready. We got, we got Timmy come through.

We talk about doom.

“But no, that's coming by name, I remember that was when me and around that time was when”

me and Timmy reunited since he was 17. Oh, okay. Wow. Yeah. And like after he started to stop filming after he finished it.

Well, no, when it was out, it was like, you know, the press run and he was winning awards and he would thank me and talk about me and I was just like, this kid keeps asking me to speak to y'all, it's like, that's why I know him. I was like, because he does not look the same as when he was 17, it looked like a totally different person.

It was just a brief moment in my life, you know, I mean, so I just forgot what he looked like. And I couldn't make the connection. His team reached out and then I figured, I figured it all out, I was like, oh, that's the key to that.

I met when he was 17 and so ever since then, like when we reconnected, like he took me to see Carmen by her name in the theater, but he bought the tickets and we went to a spot in Las Fielas and super dope and ever since then, it's been our thing for us to watch his movies together. You know, so it's like tradition, I've seen all all his shit, you know, in the theater

with him for the most part. And you were there when we saw Wonka? Oh, I mean, I saw it like seven times. And we went, we stayed together. I mean, we saw seven times.

Yeah. We went. But this is what I'm running the theater and we had all the kids come through. Of course. Of course.

Yeah. But I wasn't there. Oh, okay. I wasn't there. Okay, okay.

Yeah. I remember when you guys were doing that though. Yeah. That was fun. Yeah.

I was worried about you guys. Why? I was like, you're supposed to be in your location and you're all going with the theater. Like, I'm scared. Well, no, it's me.

This is something I do. It's a crazy thing. But no, it's cool. It might be my fans.

They always on their best behavior.

Nobody's creepy. Everybody's fucking chill. They're just happy that they got a free ticket to the movies. Free popcorn. And they get a chance to be in the room with us and watch the movies.

I love that. And I mean, they're super respectful. That's special.

“What's one thing you nerd out on that people might be surprised about?”

Maybe like, playing sims or something? Okay. Like, I can't really think of anything. When you fall on that rabbit hole, it's a whole fucking thing. Yeah.

My kennel and I have been playing sims since we were little.

And we'll just play for like six hours.

And even now, we'll face to each other. And we don't even really talk. But we're just there. And we play.

“And we like, you know, make our families.”

And then we just thought of a new idea. Now we make people that like, we know. So. So like, we'll make our friends and stuff. And then, um, all of an house together.

And it's just, um, it's fun. And there's like so many worlds now. Oh, man. That's so crazy. I've played the Sims in the minute.

I'm just remember they had that funny ass way of talking. Yeah, they have their own language. Yeah, I'm really happy. Wait, but did you see I saw on TikTok or something? The woman.

There's a woman's like, she's a real person. And she does the, she's does the voiceovers for Sims. And she knows. Yeah, I thought, I don't know why I'm thinking for some reason. Is this a proper language?

There's a proper language. No way. Yes. And she like knows. You have to watch this video.

So she also has her voice. Like, she starts talking and me and Kendall, obviously. I think, you know what Kendall sent me in this video. Kendall sent me like, oh my god. Fan growing out on this.

This is the sound, the voice. This is such an iconic voice. Yeah, man. Oh my god. I gotta, I gotta see this.

Send that to me. I will. Yeah. Your sister Chloe lost a podcast. Have you thought about starting your own podcast?

I think it would be a smash.

“Like, you should really think about that.”

I have it. Really? No.

You get a million things going on.

You want me to like come and go host again. Like maybe I'll like co-host. Oh. Someone else. No.

Cutty and Kylie. Big bro and big sis. That would be fire. Yeah. When I had to do a special episode.

Yeah. And once a while we do a special episode. I would love that. And it's mean you and then another gas and we interview someone. Yeah.

That would be fire. That would be fire. We should get Kendall on here or something. Yes. Let's do that.

Ask you who else do you think we should have on the show? I think we need Kendall on here. Okay. We need one more chair in between us. We'll get one more chair.

And all the questions are about Sims. All about Sims. All about Sims. I'm down. I'm down.

Kendall.

We're inviting you on the podcast.

Big bro and big sis. Now, when I said I know I know you have fuck with my music for a long time. I just need to know like, what is your favorite?

“If it's not your favorite, just what's the first song that comes to mind when you think of my music?”

Like what's with song is your shit? Hi. Oh, oh. Deep cut. Nice.

Nice. That's like I grew up on that song. Yeah. Yes. I smoked a lot of weed to that song.

You know what? That gives me something that you can't explain. I can't explain it. That makes me feel so good at my song. It makes me feel so good at my song.

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Well, we should definitely talk about the album. I would really love to help you out with you. I would love that. I would love that. I think one thing that could be cool with your project is exploring

just different realms, Sonically. I want to play for a little bit. I want to take a few months to just kind of see what. It can happen. That's important, man.

“I think that's how you end up finding the good shit.”

Because if you put in the time, it's just explore.

You never know what to find.

I know. I'm excited. Thank you so much, man. Thank you so much, man. This was perfect. Hey!

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