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I'm Alyssa Malbrant. Today we're going to talk about self-loathing, pro-cultural identity, all the cruise ships that I hate and the cesspools that they have, haunt of Iris, how there's no adults in control.

“The JP Morgan Chase sex scandal lawsuit, which turns out to be a hoax, I think, and we're”

going to answer all your burning questions from the DMs who stick around. Yeah, I was just making sure my time is straight. I don't have it all. No self-loathing whatsoever. No.

I went to therapy, I figured it out, I went to therapy this weekend. How was that for you? I needed a check-in because it's just a lot has changed in my life, and it's been a minute. I did not go regularly. I'm not anymore.

Because she was like, dude, I don't know why you're here, I honestly enjoyed going. She was like, because Michael is so well-adjusted. I really thought I needed to go, and there are people who actually need help, can you leave me alone? I was like, wow.

Yeah, and she had done that a couple times and then I would come back and be like, hey, I'm struggling and we chat. Okay, yeah. And this weekend, she's Genzi, she looked me in the eye, and she said, like, why did

“you feel like you should even contact me?”

Why did you?

You mean, wait, the first time at all, or at least time.

It's time. She was like, I don't know why you really felt like you should even reach out to me. Yeah, I go, it's like, okay, I can still go fuck myself. Yeah. What the hell?

I was like, and then she was like, I'm not really hearing an issue here. And I was like, she needs a therapist, she needs what, and you know what, and she needs a Gen X one. But let me tell you, it worked because I was like, you know what, that you do got this. You are good.

You are fine. Are you? Yeah, I'd like leaving that call, I felt very confident. I was like, she's right. I do have this.

I've got to figure it out. Okay. Do you know what to do? I do have the answers. I do have the resources.

Okay. And so it was kind of what I needed, but it was like a very Genzi response.

“She was like, I don't, she's like, how do you get this number?”

Yeah, like, why even here, talking about self-loathing. I know that's the real thorn in your side. Kind of. It's something that really gets under your skin, raises your hackles. When it comes to things like that, I think, again, you know, my desire to know why, like,

what happened, right? What's going on in the home? What's going on in the home? Sure. Oh, what's not going on in the home?

Is it a hug problem? Let's get into a sidebar about self-loathing. And I actually would like to hear from people about that for themselves.

They genuinely don't like things about themselves, that they can't change, right?

“Like, well, I was going to say, like, there are race and ethnicity, but then I'm thinking”

why the current is not at the end. But, like, you know, people who are, you know, they are closeted. There are people who truly don't like who they are in terms of race or ethnicity. To the point where they have now removed themselves from their family. Yeah.

I told you this before. One time, I had someone say to me, and this was an Asian person who said to me with a straight face that they were like a banana, yellow on the outside, and white on the inside. And so bad.

And I was-- That is. --flabber-gasted.

Well, because my flabbers were gasted, I could not even, it was, as somebody, you know, what

it is, too, as somebody who out of all the problems I've ever had, I feel like the minute I introduce myself, Hi, Melissa Malbrantation, and you, do you know what I mean? And there's a pride there, and not like a better than anybody else feeling, but like-- You're not going to make me feel bad about my identity. And not at all.

Not at all. And so I don't understand why you, as whatever it is that you are, cannot feel just genuine pride in that. I think, you know, whatever it is that you are, you're Italian, you're Jamaican, you're

“an egg, and whatever it is, there should be like, you should feel good about that, right?”

For what I'm hearing is that your issues with it are really tied to identity. Correct.

And it's about mostly race, gender, sexual orientation.

I think, well, the banana common is insane, because there is so much self-loathing and like white aspiration, I think, in person of color communities. It is really interesting, right? Because I don't know, do you watch, well, God, what is the name of that show? Giltanage.

Yes, the Giltanage. So, last year, there was a Felicia Rashad, came on last year, right? And she is from this very prominent African-American family in southern the Giltanage. And one of the things that she does is, her son is courting this other African-American woman, who is dark-skinned, and the whole season is her trying to come to terms with it.

And then there's another part in the show where there are some kids, black kids running out outside. And she yells at the housekeeper to bring them back in the house, or using a umbrella, because these kids don't need to get any darker, right? And the whole thing about that is, in the past, like I was saying to Dr. Truevel, there

was a moment where people aspired to be, if not white, then as light as possible, as a way of making themselves sort of not stigmatized, not victimized, and I understand that, right? Yeah. But it's really interesting to me to see that that is still in the year of our Lord,

2020. It's still so ingrained. This tells me that, I say this all the time, is that the long arm of colonialism is still with us. And it just makes me feel, I know if the day we're talking about how I don't feel bad

for anybody, but actually I do. I do feel really sorry for people like that, that you are not able to look at yourself in the mirror and be happy with what it is that you see, and I'm not talking about whether you're too thin or too fat or you're going to change your body, that's not what I mean. But like, you know, years ago, I had a friend of mine who was Filipino, and she had said

to me, and she was engaged to an Italian guy, and she had said to me that the idea of marrying another Filipino made her feel ill. And I just remember feeling, again, really really sorry for that, like, and she loved her parents, loved her dad, but there was something about being with a white person that

“I think that made her feel, is a status symbol and also what her kids would look like.”

And I gotta tell you, I know it's gonna be so uncomfortable. Oh, so uncomfortable, and I, and I just really wonder today, what is that about today, right? I do appreciate what it might have been like generations ago, but today. For me, it's like, with self-loathing, it comes down to, but it sounds like what we're talking about here is self-loathing of any sort of minority, right?

Any so it's not just race. And so the world already, in so many ways, tells you that it doesn't like you, when you're

So all of that is going to be happening in the world.

The one thing you can control is whether or not you love yourself or you love her, whether or not you buy into it.

“And I think what I'm hearing is that like, a lot of these people are buying into it.”

For these situations like people, we know who are hiding their heritage or hiding where they come from or not talking about their family because they're ashamed that they're from a certain country. For, in the queer context, is mask, gay men acting as masculine and straight as possible. It's not their coveted and gay communities, so it's like.

So you mean somebody who could pass for straight? That's for straight acts like they're on the football team looks like that. That is very much the ideal. And I have the same sort of raises my hack calls because that is self-loathing of your queer identity.

Or this notion that if you are to a feminine or if you are a scissor or if you are acting

to gay, it's considered less than or you're not the ideal in the gay community. Do you think that that, like, so if somebody is more a feminine, let's say, are they somehow less desirable? That's pretty much usually what happens, I think, in the gay community. At least gay men.

Okay. That is sort of like the same thing happens for lesbians, right? Like somebody who is sort of more mask as opposed to more feminine. Based off like my lesbian friends, I think that there is sort of like an equivalent. Sure.

Like a lit beautiful lipstick lesbian or someone who has very traditionally beautiful features, right? But what it comes down to for me is like everyone fucking hates us. For so many reasons, like why don't you hate just like what you're talking about? Like what you're talking about.

This is the one thing you can control is how you feel about you.

“But I think that that's what it is, right?”

I think all of us, no matter where we are, self-loathing or not, right? I think we are influenced by outside voices, right? It's also an affront to me when other gay people are like, oh, well, he is two a feminine or not mask enough. That pisses me off.

And I think it's the same for you where you see other black people who are like, oh, that person's two dark skinned or I want my kids to be light skinned. It's like, no, you're actually doing harm to other queer people's and people of college experiences because you are upholding this ideal, correct? This colonial ideal, ideal.

I do wonder though again, because I think that that stuff is so deeply ingrained, that I don't believe that unless you are able to have some distance from it, that people would that line of thinking, believe that they are being harmful, right? But that's also why I won't engage with you. You are a copy-paste chiseled up white-dude footballer in a gay bar and you're not talking

to other people or you're not, or I hear comments like that, not that I won't talk to you. But if I hear comments like that, where you are sort of maintaining that status quo, get out of here. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I know. Do you not just grow up, but like you sort of work past it? Is that something that, I mean, is it possible, right? Because are you doomed to be this way forever?

“Well, I think like you and I, you and I have worked past it, right?”

Like I have gotten past it for me.

Well, I gotta tell you, I never had that problem with myself.

Like we do know what I mean. There was never a moment where I wished for or spired for whiteness or anything like that. I think my parents, without my parents never would have said anything about it, but because of the way that both of my parents held themselves and behaved, there was never a moment in my household and my family where it was just like, you should really want

to be with a white person or you should want to be white yourself. That was never, there were other things that I feel like my parents did do a great job. But like that's not, that's not one of them. And my brother and I were talking about this the other day about how much we both love Haiti so much and it's because of the way my mom that talked about Haiti and how often

we went as kids, you know what I mean? I think all that is very much experience based. I am like actually jealous of how you have like a very close affinity to a country. That's like part of your identity and maybe jealous is a strong word. But like I don't know really what that's like because I'm here and I'm constantly criticizing

the country where I'm from but I guess it's a close, I feel a very strong affinity to the city of New York. Like that is mine. For sure. That is mine.

You know, I, it's so funny that you say that I was thinking about that the other day about

because I love being Haitian and I wouldn't be anything else, doesn't mean that I do and I have a lot of criticism for Haiti and Haitian people, right? It doesn't mean that. So you don't think it's possible, or you tell me, right, that to feel very proud of being American and being so proud of being American, that you want to do whatever it is that you can do to make sure that she's better than what she is.

Right.

“I think it is like one of these things where it's so specific, right?”

For me to be like a proud American is to try and force it to be better, right? And I don't know if that's the same that you feel for Haiti, right? Like I feel like a lot of your connection to Haiti is like cultural, maybe not political. I don't know. I don't want to like a son.

No, no, no, no. Yeah, it is, it is cultural and it is familial love, you know, I have a fierce network of Haitians. I do. I do. every Haitian in New York. Unbelievable. And you can figure out of some

“one station if they're quickly. Yeah, that one. That one there. That one right there. Oh, my God,”

she just pulled that. Actually, there's a memory by me. But yeah, so watch out if you're hiding how Haitian you are because Melissa's gonna. Don't don't have it. Don't have it. Don't have it for me. Um, but as far as Haiti politically, I don't mind saying that I'm very disappointed. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I'm super disappointed. And it's disappointed because I know that they we can do better, right? And any time I go someplace

else that's similar to Haiti, another island, I'm always just like, wow, Haiti could

be like this. Our food is so good. The music is so good. Our art is beautiful. The beaches are wonderful. There's no reason why we can't be just as good as Jamaica. The course doesn't make sense. Absolutely a hundred percent. Do you or are you coming? Can we get into a deep dive about the Haitian politics or are you could you talk about it? We could. It said that I it fully admit that I am not a free search. Yeah, we should do that. And maybe you have

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just random question have you ever been on a cruise and do like to go on cruises? Okay I'm so glad to ask me back. I have never been on a cruise and have never had any desire to be on one way before anything. And let me tell you something my parents loved cruises. Yeah Andre has been

dying to get me on a cruise and I have never had any and I and I said to him finally I'm like

I'll do it for you but not anymore. It's in your contract. I had them update it. I had exactly I'm serious. You're not going on a cruise. It just can't wrap up the show because you're stuck on a cruise. Well anytime I've ever seen images of a cruise. First of all all those people pain in that pool because you're pain in the pool. You're pain in the pool. It's pain that you're drunk in your piss and yourself. Absolutely right. It's a cruise ship documentary. It was called like

the poop cruise or something. It was like oh my god. Everyone got sick. Everyone got like rampant food poisoning. I forget the name of the documentary. I came up on Netflix and I was like I got to watch that. I got to save that for later and I never watched it. I'm good. And now people are

“whatever happened with the mice and the haunt of iris. I don't want to know. So here's the thing”

about this virus is. Here's my fear and my belief. So given what we all went through with COVID, right? Do you imagine a scenario where if this really comes to pass that people will do what they did during COVID, they will lock down? They won't do it. Especially now with this administration. No, not at all. Because it's through anything. They're not going to do anything. So people are nothing. I'm good. So people, I guess we're out of dry cough. It was. I just feel like people will

just sort of crumple in the street. Like because no one's going to stay home. I think so too. Everyone's just going to be like, well, let's turn the party because I didn't die last time. I didn't die last time. Meanwhile, this is a completely different thing. Yeah, it's going to be the 90s all over again in New York. What do you mean? People just party and go crazy wild. Yeah, that's true. We did do that. Yeah, we did do that. We did to health kitchen will be, you know,

the dumps again. Yeah. But I think I wonder though if gentrification has changed that, because health kitchen is not health kitchen anymore. The parts of health kitchen are still health kitchen. I was so kind of helping you continue. You can turn down the wrong street and

it's like, that's the wrong road. Wrong streets and health kitchen still. You're always

smiling on the bed city. I'm a bed city. What is it? Avenue a you're all right. Yeah. Avenue b your brave. Oh, really? There's a thing. Avenue see your crazy. Avenue d your dead.

“That's okay. When I had hair a hair dress who told me that. That's how long ago this was.”

And I was on Avenue b getting my hair cut. I know you had hair. Yeah, you did. Yeah. This great. It was like shoulder length. It was like 80s hair band. That's what he was. He was a he's a stick. Zanadoo. I had the brave. I had a Zanadoo brave across the floor. So anyway, this ship has docked, I guess. Or people are now being quarantined. The couple of them are from New York. Hulcos out there talking about how they're strong New Yorkers.

And I'm like, that's great. They need to do it from afar. Yeah. We need to don't don't be here. I right. Can we can we crowdfund sending them supplies to the boat and let them like quarantine on the boat? Why is everyone coming ashore suddenly? I mean, do they need medical assistance? Maybe. It could be that. But a couple of people have died already. And there are five confirmed cases. Several additional suspected cases. I don't know. It's making me a little nervous.

When I first heard about it, I was just like, oh, here we go. Here we go. And there's conspiracy theories.

“That it's not real. Already. I heard a different one. What was the other conspiracy here?”

That there's an Australian lab that were a hundred vials of antivirus were stolen two years ago. And maybe that they created this new Andy's. I'm sorry. They're robbing labs and stealing hunt. Yeah. For some kind of robbing anyone. It's the it's the Irmez store on Fifth Avenue. I'm not why would you rob a lab? I was talking to KP about that. Yeah. Irmez. And she's she's so all into it. Like she's like, well, so she and her boyfriend

came over this weekend yesterday for Mother's Day. And we did Mother's Day stuff because her mom is

Do you know what I mean? Do you? Yeah. Yeah. So so does she. And she was analysis like, there are some things I care so little about. Yes. This is one of those things. Yes. I don't care that much about it. But it is like a it's like your plastic surgery video is like there's something very satisfying about an unboxing video for me. I guess so into it. And when we're eventually in the antivirus lockdown, I'm gonna watch a lot of them. Maybe I'll do some of my own. Some of my

own unboxing. Maybe I'll start to a muck bangs. I've never seen a bag that I have felt like

God, I wish that I had the money to get this bag. Yeah. There are other things I feel that way about. But you feel that way about. Sometimes sometimes jewelry, um, um, uh, plastic surgery. Get this bag removed. I actually did I, I actually went to my plastic surgeon this this weekend. You did. Uh, that last week. Tell me everything. I mean, so for anybody who doesn't know it doesn't

“matter. But, um, so I have had a couple of procedures, um, because of excessive weight loss, right?”

So I needed to have my stomach done, my arms done, I had my breast done. And I never got my thighs done. And I would like to do that. And while we're at it, I kind of want to get my boobs on again.

Um, so he, you know, I went to him and he drew on me the way that they do. I always, I don't want

anything, but I do kind of want someone to draw on me. Like that. It does seem like the most fun. Everything else after that is excruciating pain. And that seems like the fun part. I mean, it was. And I like, and I like my doctor. He's really funny. He's cool. He's not funny. But his dry humor. Do you know what I mean? He's a when I say something funny. He looks at me. Like, I remember one time I said something to him. And he was like, and he looked up at me. And he was just like,

this is, you're making one of your jokes. Not laughing. No, but he, the nurse was in there. And she was dying. And he just, he was like, doing something to me. And he looked at me. He was like,

"Anyway." And I love people like that because I'm always trying to get people like that to

yeah. And so, but he never has. I injured myself at one point and I asked Melissa, you know, what do I do? And the response I got was from me. Yes, I asked you about it. And you were like, well, why don't you just get a, like, these three procedures done? And it was, and you were like,

“and you were like, and I, and I had no memory of it. Okay, it was a couple years ago. And I remember,”

I remember being like, I was like, I was like, I have about this issue. Like, I'm really worried about a mirror. Like, why don't you just get like four surgeries? And I was like, I made this face that you're like, what are you talking about? And you're like, oh, sorry. You were like, I, I forget sometimes that not everyone throws themselves under the knife at the first and can be. Yeah, yeah. I am, I am. I come from a long line of people who don't mind going to

the doctor. She's like, oh, I forgot that not everyone has like a medical gurney in their living room. So when they can sit up with a motorized. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, oh, no, I rented one of those children. No, you don't. I was like, I don't have another medical. I was like, I didn't try physical therapy. I rented the chair, but I needed it. I know you did. You like couldn't, they sort of cut me. Oh, this is like a medical trust. What is it? No, no, no. It was a, it was a chair. It was like a,

it was a chair that, so the chair, because I couldn't sit up. You couldn't, I couldn't, like, I couldn't like sit down. Right. So the chair met me where I was. Get yourself a man who treats you like a medical chair. Like the chair met me where I was, but we all want to be met where we are. Right. The chair met me where I was. And then it's, and I had a remote control and it's slowly

“put me back where I needed to be. It was great. This is actually that's what my therapist said to me.”

This weekend was fine people that meet you where you are. I mean, I feel like that's a good. That's where it's at. Yeah. And it ties into the self-loading, too. That's beautiful. That's, and that's a beautiful. And here we are. Full circle. Let's take a break. Okay, let's get into an under oath. I want to talk about, are you cool if we talk about JP Morgan Chase and this guy's lawsuit? Oh, yeah. Have you followed this at all? I'm a little bit. And so when I first saw it,

it's the first thing that I thought about is years ago, right? Years ago. There was a book called Disclosure by Michael Crichton that was turned into a movie that starred Demi Moore and Michael

whose name, all of a sudden, remembering her name was Meredith. And let's random shift that I

remember. Is that weird? Yeah. Why am I like that? You can't remember to text me back. That's not sure. I'd text you back all the time. He's such a dirty liar. And it was sort of similar. It was just reminded me of it because the Demi Moore character was harassing the Michael, the Michael character. What was like the public's reaction to that? Because what was this woman? This was a while ago. 1994 and 1995. Yeah. I wonder if it was like, I don't know. I feel like back then,

women harassing men. I don't remember. But I get the feeling that they were just like,

that could never happen. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I don't think there was a whole lot of

nobody believed it because we were all really aware of men harassing women. But this idea of a woman harassing a man was sort of like, there's no way. Yeah. Yeah. That's the first thing that I thought about when I saw this. This closure. Okay. So I read some of this stuff. This is just a quick overview of the case for people who are totally unaware of what we're talking about. It has now become a meme where people are so sorry. So basically, this guy worked for JP Morgan as a banker,

Chirayu Rana, and he filed a lawsuit accusing senior JP Morgan executive, Lorna Hadini, of turning him into a sex slave. So these are very serious allegations. Yeah.

“And everyone was quite concerned. I think when they dropped it. It's a huge bank. The allegations were”

vivid. They're. Yeah. She was roofing him allegedly. There was, uh, and some of the stuff that she says is like, some of the stuff that she is alleged to have said. She says she said. Correct. Um, that do you really think management wants some Indian boy leading organizations? That's disgusting. Yeah. Do you know what I'm saying? And like, and some of the, if you don't fuck me, I'm just going to really also. Yes. They do want that. Don't they? We care about diversity of the time. Yeah,

especially. Yeah. You know, just, so I was reading this stuff. And I was just like, oh my God, if you don't have sex with me tonight, I'm going to sabotage your promotion. I mean, that is, if you don't fuck me soon, I'm going to ruin you. That is like, it's like written by AI.

“If you don't fuck me soon, I'm going to ruin you. Never forget. I fucking own you. That really”

reads like, not real. So this was, this was entered in a lawsuit. It was, it was, um, he accused her of drugging him with roofies and biagra and threatening to slash his bonus if he didn't comply. Like, these accusations were like, extreme. You know, we've talked about this before, right? Sometimes people do things or say things and then my response to it is not even like the outrageous thing that you said or did, but it's more like the stupidity involved and how you got to where you are,

right? Like, it's not even like this thing. It's like, we'll still like the idea that this is the part that really got me, right? So the crazy plot twist. I am so concerned the amount of people who don't recognize that the sub that you Google is there forever. It's there forever. Yeah, it's a case Anthony. Right. Right. It's there forever. So even if you delete it, you get rid of your cookies. Oh, it's, no, but it's there forever, right? So like, if you are looking up ways to like

kill your spouse or looking up ways, you do X, Y, and Z. Do it on a friend's computer. Right,

“go to my library. I don't know. Sorry. No, but I think I'm just really concerned at the amount of”

people who don't recognize that you won't be able to get away with it because they're going to do a deep dive. Yes. And they're going to find out that you did this. For example, this man went to ask a lawyer on call.com. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, no. And wrote all these things. Yes. And basically lifted the stuff that he got from an AI chatbot and put it into this lawsuit. Correct. And again, it's almost like the people who are still following for the Nigerian

Prince scam. Yes. Like, why are you still following for this? And so it turns out that all of his claims were very much indefensible and quite spurious. I think people concluded none of this happened.

She was like, I've never even managed him. And like, JP Morgan chasted a full investigation and they

couldn't find any actual evidence that this happened. He was just going after a payday, basically.

They offered him a million dollars to make this go away. And he turned it down again. And the

“thing is that here's the problem with stuff like this is that there will be a man who probably”

has been or will be. He's currently being harassed. He's now afraid to come forward because of people like this. This is this is what makes me so upset is because I know that there will be somebody if it hasn't happened already. I'm sure that it has who finds himself in this position. And especially as a man who maybe is being harassed by a woman, right, who would be afraid to come out and say that this is what's happening to him because of someone like this. And think about her as well, right,

because if there is nothing that she did wrong, and this is just someone's wild claims that they put into a lawsuit. But every time she's googled, I saw me that was if someone was sitting with her across from her at lunch and took a photo in the caption was first day at work, lunch with my manager. Oh, see, that's, that's fucked up, actually. Yeah, because it's like, okay, this is like her whole career. She maybe didn't even manage this guy. Right. And now he was like wild and made

“up these claims and filed a lawsuit. If you want to fight, if you want to sue your employer for her”

harassment or discrimination after you're fired or while you're still working there, here's how you do it. Document everything. You need screenshots, you need text messages, emails, you need receipts.

I always people call me all the time and they're like, my boss did this crazy thing. I said great,

email yourself and copy your personal email address. Detailing what happened on that day. It will be timestamped. Like you said, Google history is forever. So is your email? So email your personal account saying, Melissa said this to me on this day. Yeah. And it will be timestamp with the date correct, even if you never use it, even 99% of the times you will never need it. But you will have a record. Yeah. Even if you're just emailing yourself on your personal email account,

you then have a receipt record of what happened. So the first thing a lawyer is going to ask you

“if you're going to try and sue your employer, how old are you? It's first question. It's just”

discrimination, gender race. That's next. Protected classes. Then they're going to ask you for

documentation. Exactly what happened. They're going to try and fit it into a couple different buckets. So one would be a hostile work environment, right? So we've got an environment that you were just subjected to. That was absolutely crazy, dangerous for your health. Yeah. We need to be able to show that somehow, right? So that's through your whatever emails, your documentation. That's all the things. Yeah. On this date, my boss screamed at me and said this. Yeah, free with stapler. Whatever it is.

We know someone who threw a stapler. So we do. So we're laughing. But Doc, if someone's throwing a stapler, I'm just thinking about the person who's through the stapler. Pregnant silence. Anyway, opportunity pause for the listeners. Dead air. May the dead air fill your lungs. So anyway, then you're going to want to another way you could probably see your employer is for discrimination. Sure. That or retribution, right? If you were fired or yeah.

So you would want to be able to show that you were treated differently because of what he did he did he and I I sort of stopped following after a little bit. But did he ever come up with any receipts at all? JPMorgan spokesperson said following our investigation. We don't believe there's any merits to these claims. While numerous employees cooperated, the complainant refused to participate and declined to provide facts. So it would be central

to supporting his allegations. I mean, his one receipt was his like lifelong childhood friend who was who was staying at his apartment and claims that she was at came over to his apartment one night. And sat next to him naked on a couch and asked if he wanted to have a threesome like that's but this is like his lifelong childhood friend who's corroborating his story. Okay. But this is verifiable. Let's get the surveillance footage like her like Uber account. Right. So like

our phones tell us if it's yeah. And if he lives this is New York. Yeah. Then we we see her coming in out. There's no way there's a door man. There's something. You're on camera five thousand times a day in New York City. Like we can easily verify. Yeah. Yeah. So did it just eventually go away. Her lawyer denies everything. Yeah. I feel like there was an article that was like this was not real. Like it was literally made up. But that was like the maybe that's like the public consensus.

Right. He claimed that his father was dead or was dying and dead. I saw that. He did make up that his dad. He made up that his dad was dead. Meanwhile somebody went to his dad's house. And the dad was

before closing the door. And here's the other thing about stuff like that. Right. My dad would never say

“that if you. He'd be like who? But this is the thing that this kills me about people in this”

stupidity. Right. You're going to lie. You need someone to cooperate this story. Tell them. Tell them. If I want Michael to lie for me, I'm going to say to him, listen, I'm about to tell somebody that I was with you. Okay. Like you don't answer the phone. She's an incredible employee. She was the best team member I've ever had. But do you know what I'm saying? Like if you're going to lie. Yeah. And you're going to need someone to help you. Clue them in. Yes. Yeah. Everyone has the friend who's

the fake reference. Sure. Everyone has the friend who's the fake reference. I had a dispersion with my friend. But I had a colleague who was just like, listen, if you ever need a reference, just call me up. Yeah. And they were like, it doesn't. We'll figure something out.

What? And I was like, okay. I never had to use them. But I was like, back there. Yeah. That is

like one of the best ways you can be a resource. Yeah. I had a friend. I got a call from the employer as the reference never worked for me. It was for a dog groomer. Wow. Wow. You got to tip me off, babe. She didn't tell you. But I don't understand. That's like, that's like lying 101. That's something a list I would do. No, she would. I don't know. I'm going to stand up for my girl. She would never do that. Dizzy bitch would do that. No, no, no. She would. She would. She texted me this weekend. Yeah.

Is she back in the States? She was like, are you on your way? And I was like, where? Where are you? And she was like, literally the switch. She said, I'll pull it up. I'll read it to the wedding in Venice. Oh. I invited you last week. You said you'd come. I was like, yeah, I was joking. I'm going to Venice with you. I would have gone. Wouldn't that be fun? Mm-hmm. And that like weddings.

“I don't like Venice. Do you like Venice? I've never been to Venice. That's why I would have gone.”

It smells. It's hot. It smells. It smells. It smells. Why does it, is it because of that? It's like, it's like a, it's just sewer. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like a bunch of Italians are going to get mad. Yeah. But I actually think not that many Italians live in Venice anymore. It's like 90% transplants. Oh. It's like a lot of things. We're going everything. Get them straight to camera. Get the baby. They really get the bridge in tunnel crowd. Get them go.

Like it's just like you, like when I lived in Flapush, right? Yeah. There was this place. It was like a Jamaican barbecue place, right? And you can smell it, right? The jerk, the jerk, and it was to, and then a bunch of transplants moved in with kids and whatever else. And they were just like, oh, it's too, it's too smoky. Just say way. They were way. Yeah. They were way. Yeah. Ask Brooklyn bitches. Yeah. And that place I had been there for 20 years. Shut down. Because it was

too smoky. Too smoky. It's like a literal smoke to meet store. Yeah. But that's the thing. People move to places because they like the edginess, they like whatever it is. But then you move

“there and then you want to change it. Talk to that. Do you know what I'm saying? And that's why I say”

that transplants also make the rents go up really high. And now people can't afford anything.

Yeah. A closet in a crack house is $2 million. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's because

transplants have moved in. They don't, they don't make it better. They make it more expensive. Right. And they make it exclusive. And they make it so that the people who were native to the area can no longer afford to live there. And that is why transplants grew in everything. I went to Crown Heights to visit not as a trans plant. Thank you. And they had all the barbeque's on the street. And it smells so good. Yeah. That's right. My friend's apartment and I went and yeah.

That's what I'm saying. So I mean, so that's too bad about Venice, right? So now that people who historically had lived there feel like they could not, they've been pushed out by transplants. And tourists, like the tourist situation of Venice is insane. Like the crit, speaking of cruise ships, the cruise ships like are rattling the foundation of this store. Are we thinking? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It's already struggle bus. Right. Exactly. It's like yeah.

And now the cruise ships are like so many cruise ships come in all the tourists. It's it's a nightmare. I still don't want to go on a cruise. It's like a giant floating peachy dish. I've heard something about all the garbage that is collected on the cruise ships. They drop it at port along the way. And these countries don't have infrastructure to handle. They don't all that trash. They don't. And so it ends up polluting the island, the cruise ship visits. All the food

that good to me. Like you're only spending money on the cruise ship. So you're never actually

supporting the local community. And the other thing that's really interesting sort of we're going to struggle back to Haiti. That and it's not just Haiti, but a lot of countries in the islands have sold portions of their country to the cruise ships. So that now, like so for example, in Haiti, La Badie no longer belongs to La Badie, but it belongs to Royal Caribbean. Somebody like that. And it's and it's it's not forever, but it's for a really long time. It'll be for like 80 years or

something like that. So like you're not actually supporting the people of the area because that country has sold. I have a lot of them. If you're a cruise ship, go fuck yourself. I hate cruise ships.

“They are all stupid. Yes. Did you hate it? Yes. And I was like a kid. I remember being like,”

this is dumb. And I remember being like, you're not like about it. Being trapped. I'm like, I'm a gay kid. I'm already trying to survive. And now you're locking me on a boat with all these fucking breeders. They're disgusting. Including including your parents. I remember and I was in that busier remember being in that pool being like, this is gross. Oh, that that is sickening to even look at. Yes. It is soup. It is people soup. And I swim in the New York City

YMCA is like honest swim team. And that ship is nicer and cleaner than your nastiest cruise ship. If you're a cruise ship, get fucked. That's my message for you. I hate you. Well, I guess we're not going to get any brand deals from any cruise. And I don't want it. I'd rather be on the breadline than take your dirty cruise ship money. Shut it. Okay. Let's take a breath. Let's take a breath. This is so scrupulous. All of a sudden. Let's take a breath. I'm mad as hell.

Why? I hate cruise ships. Okay. There's no redeeming quality about a cruise ship. If you support cruise ships, I don't like you. Wow, Michael. Yeah. This is, I'm taking a stand. I see someone finally at it. This is my normal ray. Union eyes. This is my, I took so many enemies to me today. I feel crazy. Are you floating? I am a Jupiter. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen Kingdom on Earth. He felt destined for greatness.

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creature. They wanted me to do stand-up. I made a TikTok about it and they wanted me to do stand-up. But you're going to stand-up. I'm not a- I'm not a stand-up. I mean, I think you're a funny guy. Thank you. Thank you. I do. I mean, you make me laugh. You get each other laugh. I don't have a set. Do you think you could do it? I could not. But could you? Do you stand-up or a crusher? Stand-up. I'm opening- I'm opening. What is it called CJ? I think it's

called RAT scraps. It's a UCB improv show that I'm going to open this coming Sunday, actually.

“So when there's Thursday, come on Sunday if you want to see me in an improv show,”

there are actual improvisers, not just me. So don't worry. I'm going to do monologues. They're going to ask me questions. We'll be like this. Like a Q&A. Okay. And then they'll do improv based off the stories that I tell. Right. But I don't have actual improvisers. I think Jeff Hillers is going to be there. I think like real real actors who know how to do monologues.

Okay, let me. But no. I don't think I could just stand up. Okay. I have been never. Okay.

So these are tells from the DMs. And what I always say friends, while Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyer, so find someone else. Okay. These are, okay. These are just just some quick comments because some of these comments are really funny. They are. From the fake assassination attempt episode. I haven't heard a lot about that fake assassination after it happened. No. No. It's almost like it was fake. Sydney, JTF says, "My mom's

meth recipe is a bottle of monologues." What? I love that so much. Okay. This was like my favorite one, actually, from the Swedish Latina. Who facts, checks our DFX on YouTube that said, "Slut, splut, splut, splut, splut, splut,

splut, splut, it's too worth guys." Okay. It's too worth. We didn't know that. We didn't know that.

We didn't know that. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. We didn't know that. Slut, splut, splut, splut. All right. Someone wrote in and said they're listening to the episode

“talking about limitations on murder. No such limitations, right? That's why we have America's most”

wanted. Right. They're wanted forever for murder. So I see agents could get charged with a different administration. Yes, that's true. My question is, might it be better to wait until then so that Trump can't commute any sentences given to an ice agent for murder-save committed. Yes, that's absolutely true. You nailed it. I will say that the charges that are hitting, Trump commutes sentences. That's what presidents do, or they pardon sentences. Right.

Not charges. So charges are what they hit you with. It's a charging document. It is. It's usually you get charged with like 20 things. If you commit a crime, and then you plea out certain ones. Some charges are dropped. You argue certain ones in court and pretrial hearings. So we've got what? You two and a half, three years left on his turn by the time. Renee Goods Murderer or Alex Pretty's Murderer or any ice officers who committed homicide while serving as an ice officer.

Yeah. He would not be able to do like blanket immunity for them before he left office. It would have to be the sentence that he would commute. So that is my understanding of it. And those folks are being charged in state court. So that's sort of what's happening. What the feds can do, what Trump can do is sort of do anything to hinder the investigation. Right. So they're tainting evidence. They're not turning anything over. They're just completely trying to hamstring

the prosecution as my understanding of those cases. I wonder if we're just going to spend the, not the rest of our lives, but like just administration after administration, just undoing the things that the previous administration did before. Do you know what I mean? And it feels like, and while you definitely want justice for people, but it feels like we're doing an undoing things all the time. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, we're just like two steps forward once

“to the back. Sometimes it's a bunch of steps back. That's why with Antivirus I'm like, are we going”

to learn from any of our mistakes? We don't learn anything. No. We really, really don't. They're like, let them off the boat. Yeah. Let them off. Let them off. Let them off. Who cares? Let them off that trip. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want to read the next one? Hi, Michael and Melissa. I'm starting law school in the fall. And there's so much noise with my peers in the schools that I tour about big law or bus and how I'm

stages of your careers, you balance giving of yourself and serving the causes that you value

“with taking care of yourself and your own needs. All right. Let's pause there because that's a big”

question. So this is like a such a great question. I love this so much. I never went to big law

route. I never worked at a big law firm. So so basically for those who don't know in law school,

you start to sort of campaign to get these high paying jobs in corporate law. And a lot of people do them and it's like very sparkly and they come and woo you and you've got to be at the top of the class. For me, I always the way I always tell people when they ask me, like, should I go into big law and make a bunch of money? Should I do public interest work? Like, my advice is always like, figure out what works for you and this is for any career really. Like, figure out what is going

to motivate you to get out of bed every day because you're going to have to get out of bed every day. And it's going to suck sometimes. So be able to look at yourself in the mirror. This is what I say. I have a lot of friends who went into big law and a lot of friends who burned out, hated it, went on like a couple years after big law, went on big, like finding myself trips around Asia. Like, you know when people are, they're starting to give the blink twice if you need help sort of

“face. You know, like, it's, it's a grind and I think a lot of people go into those crews because”

they're like, I'm just going to make a bucket of money sell my soul, get out and then do what I want. There are no guarantees in life. There's no guarantees that you will live to be a hundred. What happens if after those two years, you find out that, you know, there are no other jobs for you to go to that. Or if there's a change circumstance, stance in your life or whatever it is, like it's just a cliche, like live every day, whatever. But it, it is kind of that sentiment.

It's like, okay, if you are going to quote sell out, I'm, I'm not really committing to that term. But if you are going to do something, you know you're going to hate and not want to do just for the money, just know that that is valuable precious time in your life, that you're taking.

Yeah. And setting aside knowing you're not going to like it. Right. And I always really couldn't

grapple with that. And I was also privileged enough to not have to make that choice.

“You need to ask yourself if you can live with whatever it is that you're doing. Right. So I was not”

a lawyer. I was a paralegal and it's very different. However, I did, I was a paralegal in big law firms. And I was desperately unhappy, desperately unhappy. I was sick all the time. My hair was falling out. It was a lot of pressure. So as a paralegal, if that's the feeling that I had, I feel like for associates, it's like tenfold, if you're more right. Also, there was a point where I was working on cases where I felt like I was doing the wrong thing for the wrong people,

that it wasn't illegal. But it was, you know, it was sort of crushing the little guy. Right. Somebody would bring a case against a huge company. And because this company had so much money behind them, they were, they were able to outspend this other person. And usually what would happen was that other person would give up not because they were wrong because they had a run out of money. Right. And that was almost the goal. Wait out the clock. Wait, wait them out because they're not going

to be able to outspend us. And eventually for me, as a paralegal, I realized that this is not what I want to do. I want to help people. You're causing harm. Yes. It felt like I was causing harm.

And so that is why I decided not to do that. And not that people who are on social media are always

telling us the truth. But every now and then I will, no, no, just hear me out. Every now and then I will fall on an attorney who's working in big law. And they're talking about a day in the life. Right. I've seen those. And these are people who are getting to work at say nine o'clock. They're not leaving me office until like eight, eight, nine o'clock. They're getting home. They're working into like two o'clock in the morning. Yep. And then they're going back into the office the next day. Do you want to

live your life like that? Yeah. Right. And if it's just for a couple years, do you like truly ask yourself that? Is that what you want to do? And you know, are the golden handcuffs? Is it, is that enough? And maybe it is. And no judgment. Right. And no judgment. If that's okay with you, then that's okay with you. And it's fine. But if you are concerned at all about the quality of your life, do you want to be able to shut it off when you get home or not? Do you want

it behind? So I think that these are questions that people should ask themselves. For me, I'm like, I want to have fun at work. I know that's such a weird way to approach it. But I'm like,

“what I'm doing? I need to be having some fun. That's how I'm approaching everything now.”

I'm writing a motion right now. I'm having so much fun writing it. Because I'm eating these bitches up for knife, no crumbs, gobble, gobble on me. Miss Thanksgiving dinner. I'm eating them up. And it's so like it truly, I can't wait to go home tonight. I'm going to be in bed. I will have a sheet mask on. And I will be giggling to myself. I'm not, I'm serious. I mean, I love this because you're pointing trees. Yeah. I know that that's you. And I'm going to be cackling in bed. Yeah.

Well, Brad will be in the other room like, what is he watching? I'm watching myself babe. I'm watching myself eat them up. Let me ask you a question. When you were in law school,

you never did a summer associate chip? Oh, I interned for like a law firm, but it wasn't a big

law associate thing. That's like a hole. You didn't do that. No, no, no, no. No interest, nothing.

“I was, I didn't know what it was. And so it just never went out for it. I just wasn't really”

paying attention. Okay. And so it was happening. And people were talking about it. And I was like, "Huh, wonder what that is?" Anyway, should we get a hot talk for lunch? Like, I just wasn't nothing was really registered. So I mean, you, you weren't interested. I wasn't interested. It did sound interesting. It's like, like, like, that's like the drugs for me, right? It's not, it's like, I knew, I don't, I just didn't care. Yeah. It wasn't, do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like,

oh, not interested in that particular thing. Anyway, thank you for sending in your question. That was really sweet. Oh, and she also wrote that she hooked her mom on this podcast this week. And we drove her over hours, turning law schools, and oh my god, I don't know if one straight fan. Just one. Thank you so much. How fun, touring law schools. Good luck. DM me, I want to know. Let's let us know what you get in and what you want to do. We're legitimately interested. I love that. All right,

thank you so much. This has been Tales from the DMs. Thank you for listening to Brief Recess. I'll see you in court. Or I'll name you in that motion. He's petty enough to do it. This has been an exactly right production recorded at I Heart Studios, posted by me, Michael Foot. And me, Melissa Malbrant, our producer is CJ Feroni. This episode was edited by Nicholas Galucci. Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain and our guest booker is Patrick Cotner.

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