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I do feel like people say when I just have four to two to each other's. It's very, like, Elizabeth Tassioni to kind of come and talk. That show, Elizabeth? Do you watch that?

OK. Yes, I know. Andre likes it. So if he's watching it, and we happen to-- Andre likes the Elizabeth?

Yeah. Wait, that's actually really funny. Is it? And I, and usually when he's watching it, I'm doing something else.

But like, I'm tuned in.

And I'm always asking him why she has so many fucking bags.

I don't want to feel like her. I do feel like her some days when I'm walking into the court with like 14 toots in my backpack. My bike helmet. It's like, but what's in the bag?

What's in the bag? What's in the bag? What's in your bag? What's going on? Let's get into a sidebar.

Let's get into a little personal story of what's going on this week. How are you?

“So we've got this place we Airbnb upstate.”

I was just telling myself. I'm fine, Michael, thanks. Oh, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. How are you?

Fuck off. [LAUGHTER] Tell me your stupid story. Good. I really wanted to tell him before I forgot.

So this woman sticked my Airbnb.

And there's like a little pond out back. Now it's like a natural pond. It's okay. I was going to ask you if it was man-made or not. And book a head.

All I got was a message that the pond, her dog, drank the water in the pond. Okay. And she was very upset because her dog is now sick. That sounds like a her problem.

And I'm like, okay, I didn't-- [LAUGHTER] I didn't-- And she's mad at me, it's popping off. Because I had dumb dog.

I had dumb dog. And I did feel very bad because I have a dog too. But I didn't label it dog ball. Like, it's a-- Well, I just don't understand it unless--

I'm curious though. What is the expectation? She was upset that we weren't having the pond filtered. Oh, you know what? I just was truly--

I am. I'm so tired of people. I'm not even kidding. I'm like, I'm so-- I'm just tired of people.

This is why I stay inside. I'm sorry. This is why I stay inside. Because people are-- And I'm sure there's somebody listening

who's going to be like, you're insufferable. Fine. I am. That's why I stay inside. I am tired of people.

Yeah. So she was very upset. Oh, okay. And now what? I was--

She was going to send you the vet bill. I was like, I'm really sorry. Question mark? It's like a natural landscape. Like, I don't really maintain the grounds.

It's a house-up state. OK, wait. So let me ask you this. You responded to her. And you said that you were sorry.

Yeah, I was like, I'm so sorry to hear that. I've got a dog as well. I would hate for any pet to be sexually. Like, that was the honest truth.

Then it was like, let me know if there's anything I can do. Definitely keep your dog on a leash at there. I feel like natural. Then it's like, I'm trying to be like a nice-- Oh, I feel like let me say what you did wrong.

You opened the door for her to be like, here's what you could do.

Here's what you can do. Here's my fucking back bill. Right. Well, I was like, is everything okay?

“Like, I honestly was like, is everything okay?”

Do you need me to do anything like, why are you kind of telling me? Like, what would she need you to do? Yeah. Now, I'm like, you know, I think I'm more annoying about this than you are right now. I just don't understand.

I'm like, now you're mad at me because I don't want to go fuck herself. Well, I just, I just, I really want to know, so she reaches out to you and she tells you that the pond, my her dog drank the water because she's a dog. She let her dog off the leash. Right.

It's right into the pond. Okay. And then it drank the water, got said. And now he, the now the dog is sick. And it's, and she's upset with me.

Okay. I think what I said because I'm always like a, a silver lining person, I said, I'm happy to update the check and instructions for any future guests.

Remember, remind them not to let their pet drink the pond water.

And that is something I'm willing to do. You know, this feels a lot like, do you remember this, there was a, people can say crazy shit. I just, like, kind of have to, but do you remember when they needed to have warnings out to tell people not to eat the pod, the type of, the type of, the type of, the type

of mine ever at or still underlocking key at the CBS, that's because of theft. No, that's because people were gobble in them. No, it's not people were doing muck back. No, no, no, my, your team, that was a different thing. But you noticed that the CBS, everything is locked up, the soap, the ghost.

He didn't eat it. Everyone's eating, not shit. The secret. Oh, the kids, the youth, the kids, the youth, the youth are going in and gobble in the dub soap.

That's what's happening. I don't think that's what it is. I think that's what it is. It's because it's like you say we've run out of shit to do so people are snorting dub soap.

They're chopping it up. The ice cream is locked up. Well, every, it's, it's, you know what I'm saying? It's all locked up. I mean, they're snorting it.

They're melting it down and they're injecting it directly into their veins. Once upon a time, I probably wouldn't have done that. Kids and queens in the 90s, shit, I mean, it's great. Grown adult women living in flat flesh, I don't know.

“Do you remember that restaurant that yummy taco?”

Yes, I do, actually. Okay, my best friend and college lived above the yummy taco. What was that like? The shoe is the lesbian. And she took great pride in living above the yummy taco, because it's like, it's the

lesbian sex in UNDO. Oh. Get it? I got it. Okay.

All jokes that you have to explain are usually much better. Well, I was just like, I was more thinking about what her apartment smelled like. Oh, it was, so it's like four or five stories about it's now the donut plan I've flat-bushed for people who are new to New York.

Oh, okay. It's now the donut plan. Yeah. I do too. They used to be one across the major, my gem I switched gems because I kept going.

There's, anyway, I'm not going to say where it is, but I, there's one that I can, like, on my commute home, and I've waited at all costs. The donut plan? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.

You should. Yeah. It's really good. Lasted, the test. It's been around for a long time.

Yeah. It's been 15, 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. Because I switched that gem in 2010.

“He switched his in because, I mean, that's why it's listened.”

So now it's like, I can't keep doing it. No, he can't keep doing it. I'm doing it. You know who makes it? We're going to donut Peter Pan.

It's a Brooklyn. I think it's called Peter Pan. Peter Pan. It's really, it's so good. Okay.

I'll check it out. Yeah. I got to go to Brooklyn because there's a thrift store owner who wants me to come check out the clothes there. I am a thrifting.

No. And nobody has ever reached out to me. No. No. Because I've, I sold my ass to the internet a long time ago.

You did. And it is finally. It's years. Mm-hmm. Of arduous posting.

And finally, there is something of getting vapes of getting those resin

things in the mail, at the vaping. Oh, right. Yeah. For people who just want to get high in new and exciting ways. Mm-hmm.

Finally, something I really, really want. When you go in. When you go in. I'll text you all the time. Yeah.

I might want to come in. I know. So I texted Michael this weekend. And I, my text to him was, sigh. And Michael wrote back it was like, what?

And I was like, I just feel, sigh or yo? Well, yo is when I have a problem. Yes. Sigh is when I'm just depressed about something that I've done. And I said, I just came back from a state sale.

I've been there for two hours. Clothes and down the estate.

It's a lot of stuff. It's a lot of stuff. The estate sale.

And I bought a full set of China.

Melissa. I know. Are you serving that many people? Yes.

“Well, I guess you did host a abuse post.”

I hosted Easter. 12 people. 12 people. Did you use it? I used it on these.

You bought it and used it right away. I bought it and used it right away. And I also, because I made a poached salmon. I also bought this giant fish plate. Did you poke like a really big salmon?

Yeah. Wow. I love salmon. You were in Long Island. I wasn't in my name.

I was a long Island. I was. I was. I was. 10, 10 shots five.

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Here's the thing I'm speaking with more artists,

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Listen to the new season. Up here's the thing on the iHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's get into your algorithm of showing because you told me about your AI fruit. I got to tell you about what the insane things that's on my feed. Now it's different now.

It's not just fruit anymore. It's not fruit. It's full of fruit. But now it's also sporting equipment. So like a basketball and a football.

Have a thing. Okay, so I sent it to you because after you told me about the fruit. I started getting jewels. Having sex. Yes.

Diamonds and rubies and emerald. Random emerald. Having an effect. With a rock. With a rock.

Yes. So a diamond and a rock we're married. And the emerald showed up looking like a hot slut at diamonds house. It was like I'm sorry. I'm fucking your husband.

Yes. Yes. And when inside and then because it's AI, they're sort of like messed up and weird. It's like very cliche. And the emerald is like shy rating in the background while the diamond and the rock are breaking up.

Just like in a really weird, like uncanny valley kind of work. Like the emeralds in the background like. Yeah. It was very weapons.

So when they open doors, the doors open the wrong way.

Yeah. Yeah. Just getting in on top of the car. Yeah. Driving away under the car and again.

It's weird. It's weird. Yeah. But on my feed. So this is not AI.

These are paid actors. Oh.

“But it's like a full TV show just on TikTok.”

Where you watch two minute clips and then you scroll to the next one. And it's just on TikTok. It's not promoting it on a TV network or something. And it's called wrestling with love. Oh.

It's like the wrestling. He did it right. Yeah. He did it right. Yeah.

It's like cold following now. It's blown up on my feed all weekend. Every other video I swipe is these two guys going to town on each other. Wrestling on the wrestling mats. Star Cross lovers and it means to lovers.

The dad is the cold. And he does the series. Four shots. It's a mini series for TikTok. Have you ever seen?

Also on TikTok. They're Asian like soap operas. Right.

And they're always dubbed.

So and there's like one thing after another. And somebody with some terrible calamity. And then they're like. Get out. You whore.

And like they kick the person. It's just like the Bollywood. Or is it more like a Korean soap opera? More like a Korean. Okay.

Okay. And like and the dubbing is always really weird because the lips don't match. So it's in it's probably in Korean. And then there's like this. Yeah.

You whore. And and the thing is it's like always this very extreme thing. It's the same thing with like the AI fruit because right. It's like, you know, we're going to throw you in the garbage. And we're going to bury you at the dumps.

Yeah. We're just going to like throw you out and like kick you. But there's not a lot of nuance in a 30 second video. It's always something like, oh, you think you'd be with somebody like me. You dirty horse.

[laughter]

Like this and then there's just to be loud.

A cliffhanger for the next episode. And now if I must have like waiting for the next one. Like what's going to happen? There is this woman who is. I actually want to be really sympathetic here for a minute.

Okay. Because we were talking about a strange addiction last week. Oh yeah. A woman and I'm following her on her journey. To help.

To help draw. Okay. From Diet Coke. Oh.

“Is this the woman who was drinking like 15 Diet Coke a day?”

Eight, 64 ounce. And she was going to like the 7/11 or something. And yes, I've seen her once or twice. And I'm following along. How's she doing?

I am riveted. She's on week four. Okay. And she's doing okay. She is a cutely aware of how much this is like a very dangerous addiction to it.

Yes, yes, yes. Consumed that much Diet Coke. That much caffeine. Yeah. Also like,ensive.

Right. And like, yes. She counted it all up. It's over $600 a month for her to drink all that. She just like, man.

I'm yeah. Wow. I mean, that is almost half a tank of gas in America right now. Almost. So she's very self-deprecating, which I love.

Because she's not like, I don't get it. Why? Why is everyone freak out? No, she's like, I get it. Yeah, yeah.

You should, I should be freaking out. Right. And I am.

“And I love it because it's like this kind of cool situation where she's having the internet”

hold her accountable. Okay. So she's being really honest with what's happening. Okay. And she's posting all the time.

And she's breaking down the math of how many she's drinking when she's feeling like a craving. And we're all there for her. We're all like, I'm there for her. Like we got this, like you DM me when you're craving a DC girl. And I got chill.

Diet Coke. I do too. Couldn't pay me to drink them. But if you wanted to, I'm where available for sponsors. We're easy.

Yeah, I do not care for diet. Yeah. I don't like diet soda. What's on your feed? You got the, you got the emerald.

You cut the ruby. Yeah. You know what? Nothing special. Nothing new.

Yeah. Oh, let me ask you this. For whatever reason, this weekend, it felt like a lot of people thought that the president was like unwell and dying. Yeah.

Yes. There's been a rumor that the president was in the hospital. Mm-hmm. It is not true. Okay.

And I looked into it. No one can figure out where it came from. Right. There was a rumor. It kind of started percolating up.

And now no one really knows where it started. It's definitely been debunked. Okay. Right. No, I saw that he was, I saw that he was not in the hospital.

But it was his whole thing about that was like he was like secretly taken to Walter Reed and like for a very long time. And whatever else. And what I think is really interesting is like all the people who are like fingers crossed, you know,

But at sea witches.

And I wonder what actually would change?

Or something happened to him because there's a part of me that I will tell you that I actually actually hope that nothing happens to him for a few reasons. A, I don't believe that the people who love this man and their people who love him would actually believe that a 79 year old man who only drinks die of coke and doesn't exercise and eats like shit would actually just die.

“My, Donald Trump, my father and Bill Clinton are all the same age, right?”

I got 70 nine. Sorry. Just like hearing it. Yeah. So I mean, my dad died.

So there's no reason to believe that somebody who's that age, who does not, who's not in good health. Cause he's not in good health. He's not in good health. He's not in good health. Right.

That this person could not just die of natural causes. Right. And I, and I just know that the people who love him would be like Joe Biden did it. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes.

Like somebody did it. He didn't just die. Somebody took him out.

It's like the lefties did it.

Do you know what I mean? And I am a Rachel Maddo. Right. And I was a Glock. I'm genuinely afraid of what his death in office would mean.

I just think it would cause a lot of chaos. Yeah. Right. I think it would cause a lot of chaos. I'm genuinely concerned that they would be like violence.

Do you know what I mean? I'm already so dilulu like the yes.

“And then I think a lot of people would be partying and celebrating.”

Yes. And then there would be like insult showing up with a K47. Correct. And I do think that would probably happen. And that would be some sort of mass movement.

Right. Then people would jump into. And then there would be violence. And then we could turn about that. And we've got unstable.

Yeah. Government. So who's in charge?

Who's calling the National Guard if needed.

I know that, of course, if things were to follow the protocol, J.D. Vance would become like that. I killed the Pope. Like if the Pope immediately shook his hand like I dropped the fucking dead. J.D. Vance stands for just killed the Pope.

You see that treat? That's not my joke. That was a treat. Just killed the Pope. Is that J.D. Vance stands for?

Yes. But you know, I just think I'm concerned about the chaos. Oh, yeah. Right. I would not because I've got any soft and pink feelings. Because I saw a bit while ever, I'm almost talking about him being out Walter Reed,

aroundiously. This discourse online started about. Do you call me? Anyone if it happens? Yes.

Or do you wait until the next morning? It was like nominate yourself. Do you want to be woken up or do you want to sleep through the night and be woken up the next day? For me, I'm like it depends how late it is.

Well, if it's five a.m. Yeah, wait.

“I think a way to couple, let me finish that REM cycle.”

Okay. But if it's two a.m. and I can still turn the party. Yeah. Call me. My initial gut reaction is call me.

Yeah. Right. But then I'm like, why? You know what I mean? There's, there's, so whatever.

There would be nothing I could do regardless, right? Yeah. I will find out everything I need to know when I wake up. Especially as somebody, and this is such a bad habit, but somebody who wakes up and I look at my phony media.

Right. I would know right away. Odds are, I will say though, Odds are. If it happens in the middle of the night. You're not going to know.

Well, no, I, I wake up a lot now. So you'll kind of. I think I'll just, I'll know and then I'll like poke on you. I guess I don't want to miss. I don't want to miss like the moments like the immediacy of it, right?

Like I, so I did. I think I do want to mend my statement to say wake me up. I just want to like be awake for it. It's like history kind of. It's, but it doesn't, I think it's still history.

Like when we, like when we started to be a war with Iran, it was like three in the morning. I was still awake. And I was. So would you have been, would you have wanted to be woken up?

No. No. Because there's no reason for us to be in that fucking. It's not like an actual, it's like the war is. I mean, I feel like just learning about it in the morning was enough.

Yes, yeah. I think so. And I feel like the same thing if the president dies. Like we can, I don't need to be woken up. I don't, nah, I think the more I think about it,

the more I feel like. I think there's going to be like a block party outside or house though. Probably. And you know, I'll say this too. I, um.

I usually. I'm not somebody who. Praise for the death of someone else. And mostly, not because I'm above it, right? But because I'm currently speaking.

I'm worried about myself, right? Like, I thought you're going to say, because you don't pray at all. Don't tell me. I'm going to be calm.

But, you know, I don't, I don't sort of, I feel like it.

It sounds so cheesy, right?

“But I feel like it throws out negative energy out there.”

Yeah. And I don't want that on me. Not because I'll be broken up if you died because I wouldn't be. I'm curious why you think you're not throwing out any other negative energy. Well, I think I do, right?

So let me not put this on top of it, right? I, like, that's what it is. Whenever I want to be messy, I'm calling you. I'm sure. Because you know, I'm going to encourage you.

You're going to be like, absolutely. Absolutely. I got into, like, kind of like a slapfight over email with DHS this week. I wanted to call you. Oh, that you call me for.

Because I was like, you got the wrong girl. Like, this is not, I am not the person. I'm friends with drag queens. You don't want to do this.

You're like a nice 25 year old lawyer for DHS.

You don't want to start. Like, you picked the wrong one. Sometimes they do that. Sometimes the wrong one is picked. You want to be passive aggressive over email.

Like, this is going to be a master class. This is my master class. Yeah. Get ready. A while back, I got into like a stupid email thing back and forth with somebody.

And they, and what I was like, you know, you are going to make me perm my last email. At 455 on a fucking Friday. And I'm going to wait. I'm going to wait to perm my last email.

And I'm going to wait for you to get that in your inbox on Monday. That's right. That's right. Perm my last email. Every time I email with ICE, it or DHS,

it's evidence that I submit to the judge. I print that shit out. And I upload it into the record. And I say you're on her part exhibit D. Mm-hmm.

My email exchange with DHS on this day. Mm-hmm. Evidence. That's crazy. All of this.

I love catching them.

This is the first time anyone's ever done that to them.

Yeah. It's not going to be the last. No, it won't be. No, I mean, especially, especially now that they are being encouraged to do all this. Oh, sure.

So they're going to make mistakes. Huge mistakes. And hopefully whoever the person that would that sort of benefited from that mistake is going to have a good lawyer on their hand on their side to be like actually here. Here are all the reasons that you feel better.

Because for every hundred mistakes they make, there's really only a couple lawyers who use that to benefit the client. Everyone else does get deported, right? Like everyone else doesn't have someone there like fixing it. Or using it, weaponizing it against them, right?

“But I think the reason why everyone was talking about Walter, what is it Walter, why medical center?”

No, Walter Reed. Walter Reed. Walter Reed. Walter Reed. Walter Reed. Walter Reed. Walter Reed. It's from 30W Breaking Bad, that's right. Did you watch that show? I watched all of it.

Yeah, yeah. It's like the greatest thing about me. There's like not a single gay character. There isn't. No.

No. And it's like very much for, I think a lot of straight guys like that show. My brother loves that show. There you go. Do you want to sleep with me?

No, he won't. And I keep asking. Even though you helped pick his wife's wedding dress. Yeah, but she doesn't know there was 10 years before that of me asking if I could be set up with it. But Joey, I'm trying to get a seat at that Easter.

I went to Albuquerque for work once. Oh, I remember, I called you and I had no idea that Breaking Bad took place in Albuquerque. I didn't know. And on air like corn. Your neck here is so different.

And every corner is like a statue. I took the selfie with my, I was like, and my brother's like, oh my god, go X, go here. Go there. And I was just like, it's this dry ass desert town. But I love that they're like, we are the home of the most famous meth show.

It's like an Albuquerque. And I mean, and they were parts of it. That would actually really, really beautiful. But I felt like Albuquerque reminded me of one of these places that is on the comeback of something really dire.

Like something like something happened. Yeah. Like the dust bowl. And they're like, we're so sorry. Yeah, we're just trying to come up with us.

Yes. There was a lot of that. They felt, oh, okay. But the Mexican food was really good. But we're not sure what that calamity was.

“I mean, I think it was the opioid epidemic.”

Oh, why is it? Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. I didn't know if there was like an actual natural disaster.

No, I wasn't a natural disaster. It was definitely a man made. I think for me, I'm like, I really want to go check it out. Albuquerque? Yeah, or like the or New Mexico.

Like Albuquerque Santa Fe, like that is a place. Santa Fe is really nice. So the few domestic places I'm interested in going because I feel like the climate would really suit me. Riya. Riya.

I like heat, but I like a dry heat. Okay. I love like a chilly sweater evening by a fire.

I think that could work for me.

Sure. And I also feel like they've got a good spot game. Like I feel like they do have like good spots in Santa Fe. Santa Fe is where I should have that's where I should go. Or go to Arizona, go to Sedona.

I don't want to go to Arizona. Oh, I've a really good friend of mine. Shout out to Leslie, who Liz and Arizona is dying to get me to come see her. Really? All right, road trip.

I know. Well, no, no road trips. That's too far for me. I was saying the Walter White Medical Center is because because everyone was talking about the 25th Amendment, which is when we take the president out of office because they're either crazy

or sick or undergoing surgery. Right. Right. So they use the 25th Amendment when a president is going under the knife. Right.

George, you pushed it into a couple of times to see a procedure. Right. So it did bite in. Yes. And we're thinking about when JFK got shot.

And he was in surgery. They were like, we might do it, but then he died.

And so it just kind of they never invoked it.

Mm-hmm. But they're talking about doing it because president Trump is acting so crazy lately. Mm-hmm. So the 25th Amendment is really trending right now. Okay.

And I have theories about why lately. Mm-hmm. But it's trending so much now. So I think people probably thought he was in some sort of procedure at the medical center.

“And maybe that's why the rumors started.”

But maybe. Maybe. There is the reason why that rumors started. If you really want to know what I heard is that he cancel all the press for the rest of the day. And he had a press conference scheduled.

And he canceled everything for the rest of the day. And I think it was because they were doing that thing in our ran. Whether they were trying to get the general back or whatever. Oh, yeah. That's my assumption.

Because they shot down two planes. Two planes. And then they couldn't find the guy. Right. And that's the one guy.

And you didn't get the other guy. Yes, they did. My new source, Brad, is not. It's unreliable. I got to get the news somewhere else.

You, as opposed from your husband. I changed her from Maine. I'm trusting that. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, no.

I heard. I heard. The first one.

“I think the first one they got him back pretty quickly.”

Okay. The second one. It took a little time. Do you feel like any lessons were learned with this experience? For, for the government?

Yeah. No. You think that they were like, well, we got him back. So, yes, no, no reason to hold back now. I'm not sure.

I feel like he's been like toting how great it was. Oh, we got him back. He for us. He had a press conference today where he said that. He wanted to run for the president of Venezuela himself.

I'm pulling higher than anybody has ever pulled in Venezuela. So, after I'm finished with this, like a goat of Venezuela, I will quickly learn Spanish. You won't take too long. I'm good at language.

And I will go to Venezuela. I got a rental president. No, he didn't. Yeah. No, it was like an hour ago.

No, I didn't see that. Yeah, this is why people were talking about the 25th Amendment. Everyone started around the 25th Amendment because that shit is. And they're trying to keep him away from journalists because the things he's saying are just absolutely crazy. And what I love as though is the, I did Trump and as well.

And the first thing that pops up is Fox News.

Yeah. So, I feel like if Fox News is saying, yeah. No. To trust Fox News. But, like, it's so, it's so agreed.

It's actually even Fox News. And the post is reporting about how expensive gas prices are. Like, even conservative, so talking about the 25th Amendment. Like, it's pretty bad right now. Like, the Atlantic.

Venezuela seems to be going well. But with the 25th Amendment, you can remove a person from office. Mm-hmm. If they sort of become like the Mad King.

“And I think that's what people are talking about now because he was tweeting about Iran.”

He was like, Tuesday, we're going to blow up. Yeah. Other sites and all bridges if they don't open the straight-of-arms. You know, the thing about him is that he's so deeply unpresidential in the way that he behaves himself and the way that he speaks. Because it wasn't just like, oh, we're going to go to Iron Man and blow this up.

It was just like, we're going to fucking take him down. Like, it's just really, really. It's giving nursing home. What? It's giving hospice.

It's giving the bed that kind of press the button and it kind of rises. Yeah. It's just so embarrassing. You know, I'm just so again. I'm so fucking tired of this man.

I am a little bit invigorated as I watch these tweets go out because I think conservatives are really freaking out right now. Like, it's less about me being tired of him and more about watching the rest of the GOP. Yeah, they're my real nervous because they're realizing their careers are over. And that they have hitched their wagon to this person who is really mentally unstable. He's absolutely fading for sure for sure.

He's really, really bad. I know. And he's got the paint over the Burst hand. We've got the weird rashes. Right, right, right.

We really are weakened. We can't separate any quickly. Could work out there. Yeah, he's like a marionette. Someone's got their hand up his ass.

Yeah.

It's a puppet. Sorry. Thank you. Please put some drinks.

Please respect the puppeteering community.

They're the most terrifying people. They think dolls are humans. They're making dolls look like humans. Oh, hi. I'm worried they're going to show that the TV.

There was somebody who was a guest on a television show for kids. I'm going to tell them a lot to say the television show. Yes, yes, yes. Sesame Street. Okay.

And, um, and they said that one of the things that like freaked them out as a person who had also grown up watching Sesame Street was seeing Big Bird in the corner kind of like, No, no, no, no. There was nobody in it. So he was just kind of like, yeah, so he was just like.

And how it like freaked them out. Because you grow up and Big Bird is like this real person. Yeah. He's animated. And then all of a sudden, he's not his, he's a lump of feathers in the corner.

That would, that would freak me out. I would freak me out. To remember a Chuckie cheese when after the show was over, the animal would kind of like, I didn't, what's no Chuckie. Oh, Chuckie cheese, it was sort of these animatronic creatures.

Okay.

“Would Chuckie cheese a place where little kids went?”

Yeah, yeah. But they would have these animatronic creatures rats. I think they were rats. Mm-hmm. And they would perform like a song.

And then the show would be over. And the lights would go off, but you could still see them. And they would be like, like it is small world at Disney. No, whatever. It's like it's weird kids.

Yeah, yeah, right. My friend just got back from Disney. Did you have a good time? With strep throat. Oh, no.

Yeah. So you can battle do it. Yeah. Yeah. People are priced out the cost to go to Disney and Japan.

They said it's cheaper to just fly to Japan and go to Disney. Yeah, that is just to go here. Yeah. Unlike that, actually sounds kind of great. The whole thing is like Disney world and places like that are supposed to be geared towards families,

right? And now it seems that this thing that you used to want to be able to do. Well, the leaders have families. Okay. There's about those.

They've got to go to Disney. They need a break. I guess. Okay. We're so off topic with the 25th Amendment.

Who is there anything else we wanted to say before moved on? Let me ask you this. Okay. What do you think would need to happen besides the president dying, right? Right.

So the T was basically this one post on truth social is with sent the internet on tinder hooks.

Okay. He was threatening nuclear sites on truth social. Yes. And experts are saying Iran has already lost their leader. They have no interest in negotiating with us.

They have nothing to lose. They have nothing to lose. Correct. And so they're like we're just going to close the street. And like you've already left many of our cities and shambles.

Why would we reopen it? They're just sort of we're in a staring contest with a country that doesn't have eyelets. Like they're we're just kind of waiting for them to blink. And they're not going to. And they're not going to.

And so he's he gave this ultimatum on Tuesday in this really wild unhinged way. Yes. And now everyone's like, well, okay. It's Tuesday o'clock. What are we going to do on Wednesday?

Right. We're actually going to strike a nuclear site and Iran. Right.

“And so that's why everyone's getting really nervous and talking about the 25th.”

And so more and more congressmen and women are coming out against Trump and saying. Pressuring the cabinet to invoke the 25th amendment. You think they're going to? No. Right.

But it's like putting them in a position where they have to say no. We're not going to understand by this. Yes. Is like scoring points for you? No, I hear you.

I hear you. Again, I think what I'm worried about with anything like that is not just the act itself. Yeah. But the chaos that will ensue afterwards because there will be again the people. Yes.

Who love him? We'll not buy this.

And I will never forget the peaceful nap I was taking on January 6th.

When I woke was woken up to like like the amber alert on my phone about the insurrection. Which of course everyone down place now. We're not everyone conservatives down play it now. Right. It's a protest.

But it was very good. We were like the government as follows. Like should we get a percentage? We get on a train to Canada. Like what do we do?

Yeah. Like it was honestly. I had meeting. There was actually no turn place. Yeah.

People were like. It's got cancer. Yeah. Yeah. I think a quarter journey.

“I think because I think you know the thing is like we couldn't believe what we were seeing.”

Yeah. Right. And it was like. And so. What I think is funny is so.

Obviously. My family is from Haiti. A bunch of my cousins were like that's a coup. Yes. Right.

We know. We know. We know what a coup is. Yeah. That's a coup.

And it was your family in Haiti who said that right.

They were like how's the coup today? Yeah. Well done. Yeah. Yeah.

Exactly. I mean this was the image. Yeah. That's so crazy. That they want us to believe that that was a peaceful protest.

Right. That people broke into you know broken to.

“Isn't one of them like in a government position now?”

Like one of the guys like the guy who had the horns. Oh, that guy. Oh, that guy. Nancy Pelosi's desk. Yeah.

Didn't he. Who? Which one of them like took a shit someplace? Like I mean there's some people. I mean it was just a me idea that.

Oh, this was nothing to see here. Yeah. That's for Nancy Pelosi out in the yard. Yes. Right.

They really were like.

They went with the intent to execute people.

Can you imagine what would have happened if they were able to get somebody? Yeah. And there's all these. I think friends were working in there that day. Yeah.

They had they were like snuck out through the back exit into cars and left. Yeah. My favorite thing is to see like the the Republican congressman like running. Yeah. Who was that?

I can't remember that was like one. There's one especially who was like running. And I was like, look at you. It was that guy. I can't remember.

It's like a crazy transphob. Yeah. Speak of huge boobs. Speaking of huge boobies. Just titties.

[laughs] This Christy gnome. This could not have happened to a better bitch. What I love about this more than anything. The audacity of this woman.

To say, please give my family some privacy at this time. Go fuck yourself. This is the same. When I think, but all but all serious. This woman.

I know. Has caused so much harm. Truly hurt and humiliation. And that's just for dog. And you want privacy?

I know. If the hypocrisy is staggering. But it is. It is mind blowing to me. And the other thing is like her husband.

With the purse to lips. And like the giant titties. I know it's less about the Christrusting for me. And it's more about like the face. The mug.

Like what? Yeah. What? I was like so careful. Because of course it's going down.

And when it was happening happening in the moment. Yeah. I was like, oh my god. This is crazy. And everyone on the internet is starting to lose their shit.

No, I loved it. And I loved it.

And I'm like, oh, and I loved it for a second of it.

Yeah. But I'm like, okay. What if this is actually like a trans person's like foray into cross-dressing? Right? Because this happens a lot.

Like a husband? Yes. What if this is like the first entree into gender? Like playing around with gender? Yeah.

So here's the thing. Right? It actually if this was. If this was not Christy Nomes husband. Yeah.

And I could be much more supportive of it. Right? I would be like, okay.

“And the only thing I will say is that let's say you are a woman who's married to a man.”

And you don't know that that's happening. Yes. And for that to come out. Sure. It would be difficult.

Right? Very, very difficult. And I would be very empathetic for that person. Yes. Not Christy Nomes.

Not Christy Nomes. Oh, any dunking on her? I'm here for her. And it's not because your husband is at a note. That's not the problem.

Yes. You, Christy Nomes is the problem. Yes. I want to know what I want to do. Yes, exactly.

I think that because her discomfort makes me happy. Absolutely. I think like, I don't care how that sounds either. When I don't. I don't either.

No. She's because she's. She's so awful. And awful to other people innocent people. Yeah.

That anything that causes her tremendous harm. I was like, this man has directly benefited. From this administration. From being married to this person. Mm-hmm.

Like, there are so many choices being made here. I don't feel bad dunking on her. I know. Not at all. Someone said puppies so big.

I'm surprised and shoot them. That was the number one pinned comment on a video I saw. And I loved it. Because I actually was like, If we are lucky at this, that's like a supportive gender.

I'm like, we're not actually making fun of him. Cross dressing. We're talking about how big the movies are. The movies are a big. Someone said,

No, no more. I can't. Did you see that cash betells? His point had. His email got hacked.

Oh, okay. I actually want to qualify the statement that the same. I got hacked.

“I think someone just, I think his password was probably like password 123.”

Yeah, official. And someone just guessed it. Like a 14 year old gift. I'm number one. Yeah.

Cash one. Yeah. Cash me outside. So how about that?

And we just moved right on because the booby photos dropped.

Everyone moved. Which came first? I think it was the porn. Oh, I thought it was the boobies. Well, I heard.

I heard about the boobies before I heard about the porn. It's the stupidest couple. It's the stupidest couple. But we know what the stupidest. It's the stupidest conversation that I mean.

But we're living in the most stupid times. The perfect time to start a political podcast. We should do that. We should just joke. Yeah.

There's so much to talk about. You know what? There's a lot to talk about. But like. How do we fix this?

This is so bad.

“Do you remember when when thief did its final season?”

Did you watch? I did not watch. - In the, I mean, Julia Louis Dreyfus and her, like, Emmy speech, she was like, it's becoming increasingly difficult to create a political parody right now. - Yeah. - So she was like, so this is our last season. - Yeah, yeah, no. - We honestly can't paradise what's happening anyway. - Because the thing is, every time, for example, every time I hear about something that Trump said, and it comes across my social media, there's a part of me that is just like, he couldn't have said that.

And then I go and I look for it and there it is, and I'm just, I don't know, but I'm just constantly horrified, but then then I'm annoyed at myself for being surprised because you should know better. - Yeah, I found lately like, so I do my little diva diva diva, and I've started to really fact check what I put in there. Because I've noticed I read a study that, like, 30% of Gen Z gets their news from people like me, who are just posting on the internet.

And I never thought about it with that much responsibility of, like, I really am saying diva.

- Right. - And just like being a diva diva. - Like, it's truly as I'm, like, on my way to work. So I started to be like, oh wait, I've got a really bad check. - Yeah. - What deep, what I put in the divas. - Uh-huh. So I was doing a lot of googling before I said diva.

It's like, don't think. I don't want to, I don't want to spread misinformation. And sometimes I am wrong, and I do have to take it down. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah. Have you ever had to do that?

“- I don't post like you post. - Okay. Yeah. - Do you know what I mean?”

- Yeah, you're not chronically online like me. - Oh, no, I'm chronically online. I'm just not chronically posting. - That's a huge difference. - It's a huge difference. - Yeah. Everyone talks about that. Do you have like mental illness around social media? Because I have the opposite. - Like give me life. - People talk about depression and anxiety.

- No, I don't feel, I'm not, I don't feel depression or anxiety. - But we also got there as adults. - Right, fully formed, right? - Yeah. Like, I was doing Crossword Puzzles up until 2001 for entertainment. It was a beautiful way. - Yeah. - Yeah. It was like, there was nothing else to do.

- I'm so glad that I did not grow up in a time where I was on social media as a young person. - Oh. - The stupid shit that I did. - We would have been canceled. - No, I don't know that it would have been canceled so much as just... My personal foolishness just out in the ether for all to see forever and ever.

“- I would have loved to see that. - Do you know what I mean?”

- I would pay money to like, I was fucking messy. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I know, but like... - Yeah. - Stop saying it like that, but I just really glad that. - Tell 'em. - Tell 'em. - So messy. So messy. But I think I told you like my mom.

No, she's been listening and she was like, "Oh, me, sir!" You told me to let her lie. She did. She lied to us a lot and the thing is my comeback to that is, yes, I did. - Yeah. - Because they wouldn't let me do anything. - Yes. - So, if they had not been like that, then I wouldn't have needed to...

- The raptors are testing the cages. It's Jurassic Park.

- But she's just like disgusted. - Yeah, she's... I told you she's always saying that we lost money.

- So much... we lost money. - Yeah, I've told you that. - Yes. - Oh, we lost. The ROI is not... - The ROI on Melissa. - It's not what they hold to me. - And my grandparents are so sad. - And you know what's really funny about that is... I'm okay. Like, that's fine. - Yeah. - I'm good.

- I would say half my job is managing immigrant parents with because their client, my client is their child. - I love, and I bet you they want you to tell them all the things. - Oh, yes. - And they don't understand that I don't work for them. - Right, you were the kid. - I don't represent you and I don't have to tell you anything. - Even if they're paying you. - Oh, yeah. - No, they don't understand that. - Nope.

- When I first started college, my dad was just like, "How come we don't get a report card?" - Yeah. - And I was like, "Well, you don't get it." - So I get it. - I'm an adult now, dad. - Yeah. - And he was just like, "What?"

- Yeah. - You wanted to talk about Pam Bondi, right? - I did. - To the message from his Bondi, say, "It's straight to camera. Viewer at home." - Pammy.

“- Now, you're doing speedy pie. Has it feel? - How does it feel?”

- How does it feel? - Melissa, you're talking as if you were recently fired from the administration. - Oh, I'm just curious, Pammy. How you doing? How do you feel? How are you feeling your days? - Probably waiting stories of victims in the Epstein file. - Probably not. Again, I think what I find so fascinating, what I love is that everyone thinks. No one believes that they're going to be the one that he throws under the bus.

- Sure. - Even though we have seen him repeatedly. - Oh, backed up the bus, Bondi. - Just cause him just ran them over again. - He's using folks's speed bumps, he's constantly.

- And they're always-- - He will not get the president of the meeting.

Is that going to be me? - Sorry, keep bringing him back to the turn of the amendment. Scaramucci tweeted today. - Oh, he still-- - He tweeted today and he was like, "We really need to invoke the turn of the amendment." There's another one who got fired. But, yeah, Pammy, how does it feel to get fired for Ms. Handling the investigation of the person who fired you?

Like, that is actually-- - You can even-- - You can even-- It's so stupid. It is so profoundly dumb, right?

“You know, sometimes I'm just watching the news, and that's why I turn it off.”

Sometimes I'm like, "Yes." I'm not-- I'm not getting better for watching this. I feel like an idiot. Like, I'm living in this really weird parallel universe or living in the upside down. - Yeah, I'm like, I almost feel like Pam Bondi wasn't fired for Ms. Handling the Epstein files. I feel like she was fired because she left the stove on in the office.

Like, you know what I mean? She didn't like refill the coffee filters,

and they were like, "Trump us like I'm so sick of this." I can't even-- - I can't even-- There are no straws in the fire to for that. Like, I feel like there wasn't even-- it wasn't even directly related to the-- Like, the actual work. He's like, got tired of her shit.

He wasn't even the congressional hearing. - I'm just tired of you, Pam. Or was the congressional hearing, but it was like-- It was like something she said. She wasn't nice enough to him. She didn't like compliment his outfit that day. I can't honor the hearing. What's the actual content of this hearing?

- This is totally random. I'm having nothing to do about anything. But this is what I wanted to say to you. So, I know that you're not a big sporting person, nor am I. - Yeah, except for wrestling with love on TikTok. - Which I can't wait to see. But the world cup is coming up, and this is like all the countries came out with their songs, right?

- Oh, okay. - Each country has a theme song, right? - Okay. - So Brazil came out, and it's fucking hot. - It's a banger. - It's a banger. - Ranch came out, it's fucking hot. - Yeah. - Portugal, hot, oh no. - The United States of America.

- Oh, it is. - Was it like the Wiggles? - It's almost-- do you know that song? And I'm proud to be an American word, at least I know. - Oh, yeah. - It's giving that. - It's like Chris Rock, RFK work out for you. - It is.

- Not Chris Rock, it rock, it rock, it rock, it rock, it rock, it rock, it rock. - It is so bad. - Oh, I'm sorry. - I'm just embarrassed for us. - I mean, yeah. - And it's floating around, and people are just like, what? - Do you watch Eurovision? Did you ever do that?

- I've seen a couple of things. - I've seen a couple of things. - They play out at the gay bars, like it's a Madonna music. - Oh, really? - And it's on every screen, and I'm like, who is that? - And it's like someone-- - Yeah. - And it's like-- - It's just a step touching from Belarus.

- Yeah. - It's like, what is that? - That's all. I came across my feet, and I was listening to all the songs. And I was just like, oh, that's hot. That's hot. - And they're like, oh, no. - Oh, no. - I wonder, I meant to see who they could have gotten anybody

to do something really good. I could have been Cardi B.

But they got like basically, what's the name Lee Greenwald?

- It is the guy who did the American song. - Yeah. - It's so bad. - Yeah. - It's like somebody took a glass of skim milk and added water to it. - No. - Like it's so bad. It's so, so bad. Anyway, I just wanted to bring that up.

- Water down country music is can be the worst. - I mean, it's so, oh, God. Anyway, the 25th Amendment.

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This is under oath, I want to do a deep dive into this case that I've been following. It's actually all over my feed. - Okay. - There is this crazy trial in Hawaii right now. It's a murder trial that you cannot say.

- Yes, yes, yes. - I'm so excited to talk about it. The testimony is unbelievable. It's so obvious this man is guilty. - Okay.

- And the wife is beautiful, incredible, a brilliant nurse. - Yeah, she doesn't matter, but go ahead. - She seems so awesome.

“And as a defense attorney watching this, I'm like, how did this fucking get to trial?”

Just to give you a background on the case. Ariel Coneyg and Gerhard Coneyg is the defendant. And Ariel is the victim. So he tried allegedly, he's on trial for attempt to murder, and he's looking at a potential life sentence.

So they were hiking, right? - Yes. So the background is that he found a bunch of texts on her phone with another man. - Oh, okay. - Then a couple days later, it was like, let's go hiking for your birthday.

After they got in this huge fight. - Well, they were fighting, she went. - She went. Which is, you know, we've all been there. - Okay, fine.

- I've got, you know. - I'm at your hour, though. - I've gone to some weird concerts with guys I had crushes on. What if you've done weird things with the guy you like? If I were going to move on, we're going to move on.

And so they go hiking trail in Hawaii. And according to her testimony, which because it's his ongoing, this is currently in the court in the Wahoo. He hit her with a rock. - Right, and he tried to push her off a cliff.

- Right. - And then when she didn't go off the cliff, he took out a syringe because he's an anesthesiologist. - I didn't know about that part. - I tried to inject her with something.

- Okay.

There was, they fought for a while on this remote cliff in Hawaii.

I mean, it really just sounded like--

“- Like a battle to almost the death rate.”

- Yeah, yeah, yeah. And these two other hikers nurses heard her screaming. Because she was just screaming at the top of her lungs. He's like attacking her, hand over the mouth like all that. And came running.

And he, like, kind of, like, got off her. - You can't hurt her. - You can't hurt her. - Yeah. - I can't believe I just said scammer.

- It happened, this is scammer. - It was a scam. (laughs) - Can't take anything serious on that show. - No, this is not--

- I'm making hard news. - I mean, okay. He didn't scamper. He ran briskly. (laughs)

- This is scammer now. (laughs) - This little scamper don't-- - I mean, he didn't meander away. - No, he definitely didn't.

- He didn't stroll away. - So he panicked. Panicked face time to his son. Who's like a teenager. - Oh my God.

And I want to say 1415. Maybe 17 teenager. 'Cause I honestly don't know. But I know he's like, a, a, a, a, a, a daltesh. - Anyway.

- It's not boyhood, but it's not. - It's not. - Not a girl, not a woman. (laughs) - Not a girl, not a woman.

(laughs) - That is who did it. Should've done the song. - I'm not a boy. - We should've had Britney Spears twirling with knives.

- Yo. - You can see that she got arrested. - Yeah, we can, you know. - Sorry, go ahead. - You can't keep a bad bitch down.

- No. - You can't keep her down. - No, but I've been worried about her, my friend. - I'm not. - My friend keeps sending me.

- My friend keeps sending me. - My friend keeps sending me. - The videos of her like dancing in her house. - With knives. - She's holding me.

- Like, no.

But like, she always looks, like, really unkempt, like, greasy here.

Like, it's so cool. - If you're a Britney Spears impersonator, I want to hire you to twirl in my birthday party with knives.

“Because I think that actually would be like the best Britney impersonator to hide.”

- Anyway, I'm sorry. - Back to this guy. - This one's trauma. Sorry about that. - Yeah, back to that.

- Yeah, back to that. - He scampered away and faced him to his teenage son. - Mm-hmm. - And said that he tried to kill her. He admitted to his son.

- That he tried to kill his mother. - Yes. - Nice. - According to the son's testimony, so he's on the stand.

He's got his son. He's got his husband against his dad. - Hardball. - That's truly some weight load of shit. - Yeah.

- And so Mr. Koneg, Gerhard Koneg. - Mm-hmm. - I'm not saying like we should judge people based off their names. - But if we were to. - But that's a fucking murderers name.

I'm sorry, Gerhard Koneg. - Yeah. - I mean, it's giving. - It's giving, I did it. - Well.

- It's giving guilty.

- Like, historical did it.

- Yeah, historically. - We're gonna go. - Oh, that's the trouble. - That works. - Gonna email me.

- But I-- - But I-- - But you're right, like, yeah. If there's a line up-- - Mm-hmm.

- And it's Smith Smith Gerhard Koneg. - I'm like-- - Gerhard? - I don't know. There's a shit there.

- Yeah. - So anyway. - There's history there.

“- So the son had to testify against his dad.”

- And so Gerhard-- - Yeah. - testified the next day. - Okay. - And was like, my son must understood me.

That's a very bad thing to say. That's like, that's such a dad. - Yeah, it okay. - He didn't understand. - So what did the dad say?

He actually meant. - He was like, oh no, we got in like a fight. There was an altercation. So the dad's testimony. Gerhard's testimony is that she attacked him.

- Mm-hmm. - And that they got into the fight and that everything was self-defense. - Okay, the needle? - And so the needle no one can really corroborate.

It's only her testimony. - Okay, we didn't find the needle. - I think that's why this is going to-- This went to trial and wasn't put out. It's because it really is like,

dangling off a cliff, he said she said. - Okay. - On a lot of fronts, except for the space-time call, and the fact that the hikers heard her screaming. - Yeah.

- So those are the evidence where everyone's like, oh, Gerhard did it. And then Gerhard. And so that's really what it is. - And it's testimony on Wednesday.

Gerhard Coneg denied having had a syringe with him. - Okay. - And he denied telling his son during the video call that he tried to kill Ariel. - Mm-hmm.

- A meal, the son, is 19. Okay, so definitely not a girl, not yet a woman. - Right. - Testified Tuesday that his father had said he tried to kill her.

- Mm-hmm. - The son, a meal, is living with mom in Hawaii now. - Okay. - He is no longer affiliated with dad. - Okay.

- He broke his record deal. He is living full-time with mom. - Okay. - And so Gerhard testified yesterday that Ariel tried to push him from a trail

after they had the argument about the emotional affair over text message. - Okay. When is it coming to a resolution? - They're supposed to deliberate this week.

- Okay. - So we're going into deliberations probably like-- - So we might have a verdict. - Worst case scenario for Gerhard is that he does go to prison forever for life.

- What is the best case scenario for him? Could he get off Scott free? - Yeah. - He could. - Oh, yeah.

“I mean, double jeopardy binds when the jury seats is seated”

after Vladimir. And that is when double jeopardy sort of like is linked to the defendant. So it can't be tried again. And whatever happens, whatever that verdict is is binding and he could walk away.

- He could walk away. - If they find that there wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. - Yikes. - I know, it's kind of crazy.

- It is crazy. - So a defense attorney will, usually I definitely advise my clients don't testify because it's just, it can go so many ways. And you've got a room full of people judging you.

And every word you say, if you say one wrong thing, you're toast. So that attorney definitely, we don't know what their private conversations are like. But I would imagine he advised him don't testify.

But defense attorneys can't keep victims or witnesses from testifying. I mean, that's the prosecutor's whole case. Unless they can, what they can do is try and impeach their character on cross examination.

So that's sort of how you would undercut the wife's testimony. But she said that she scooted towards the hikers on the trail and told them he was trying to kill her. It was what she said. - She's not a nurse.

- She's not? - She's a nuclear engineer. - Oh, the nurses found her. - She's a nuclear engineer. - She's a nuclear engineer.

- Is she a nuclear engineer?

- So basically, they would have to lose the trial.

And then she could, I guess face charges of attempted murder, but her entire defense will be, you already tried this case on a different defendant and it didn't work.

So it wouldn't be a very strong case and she would have a strong defense. If it came down to he said she said, her entire defense could just be the outcome of this other trial.

Like that's pretty prejudicial. - Okay, and so there are some really gruesome photos of her injuries. She's got like a huge cut on her head. And he said that he hit her in the head

with a rock in self defense. - Multiple times? - Multiple times. - Okay. - And she's really little.

She's really tiny and he's like kind of, I mean, he's not huge, but he's a strong man. So the notion of that happening and that he would really need a rock to push her off of him and like hit her in the head.

- I don't know. - I don't know. - It doesn't seem. - I'm looking at some pictures. - Uh-oh.

- Some of the pictures are blurred out. - Yeah. - No, they're actually really garish. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah.

- Wow. - So we're going to see what happens with this trial in a couple days. Maybe we'll have an outcome next week. We could talk about the verdict.

- Yeah. - 'Cause I love when they interview the jurors after, and they talk about the one-up,

because there's always some shit happening in the juror room.

There's always something interesting. - You know what I always wonder about things like this is like, how, most people who get married,

“you get married because you love each other, right?”

And you want to be together. We get to a place where we're dangling off a cliff. - Right. - Beating each other with rock. - Correct.

- And syringees. - I mean, in '90s, people get divorced all the time, and all the stuff. But like, what, and that part is not the divorce part. It's the violence, right?

Especially if, um, if you've been in a relationship where there has not been violence. - Yeah. - Right. - And it's all of a sudden there is.

- So I think this, so I've seen this happen with some of my clients. You know, violence is an always physical, right? - Right. - So I've seen a lot of, and also in this case, there were accounts of emotional violence

of like really narcissistic behavior on his part, where he felt very controlling over her, and it was a necessarily fist of cuffs. - Right. - But it was 10 to mount two emotional,

an emotional mental psychological abuse. - Okay. - So this was really an escalation, but this happens all the time. - No, I know it happens all the time.

- Every single thing, everything but the, happening in a relationship. And then it's like, we didn't know one new one. How could we possibly know that if he's going to blow up like this, but it was this one little thing.

- It's like a powder cake. - Yeah. Do you remember, a few episodes back, we were talking about, you know, I had said that every woman has a man who, right?

And I do think like there have been times where you're so angry that you, you don't know, there's no outlet for the anger,

and the first thing that you want to do is to like,

do something to that person, and it's only your own self-control, like the voice in your head that says, you need to calm down immediately, that allows you to not go there.

You know what I mean? - The thing I'm learning is that people are fucking crazy. People are really crazy. There are a lot of crazy people.

“- I mean, I think just generally we are not okay.”

You know, people are kicking people on this away. People are like, you know, we're not okay. And so they're really like my advice,

and this is it we're getting into advice, tells from the DMs a little bit, is if you're even a little bit concerned,

“it's important that you take steps to protect yourself.”

And like get into a safer situation, very blanket advice here. - Yeah, yeah. - But because so many people are not okay, you don't know if you're living with one of them.

Sometimes, because sometimes when I've been not okay, I didn't know I was not okay. Not that I was violent, but I've had times in my life where I was experiencing such mental distress.

I didn't realize I was basically in a state of like,

manic psychosis, and I just didn't realize. I thought I had a lot of energy. - Gotcha. - I thought I was drinking too much coffee. - Mm-hmm.

- Which she does, but yes. - Yeah. - Right, right, right, right. - Seeing double vision, and why you could climb down the highway.

- And it is really interesting when you find, because I have found myself there, right, angry or that I've ever been. - Yeah. - And it's almost scary.

- Yeah. - You're like, oh. - Oh, I did not know that I was capable of feeling this way. - And I don't trust anyone more than I trust myself. So to imagine that someone else in my life

could be on the brink like that,

“and they don't know and they could snap.”

That makes me nervous. - No, yeah. - But that's why I'm like, anytime anyone my friends or clients is talking to me about a maybe

or they're concerned about a something.

I'm always like, okay, I heard like the three contingencies we have on the table right now, you know? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Regardless,

the sun, this 19-year-old young man, - No. - Who has not been put in a position to go to trial and testify against his father, because his father allegedly tried to kill his mother.

I can't even imagine what that must be like for this kid. - And now he's on the stand. Now he's on TV every news. - Everyone's going to know that he had to do this thing. And yeah, it's like,

when you see these shows, like, they line shows where somebody realizes that, you know, their mother killed their father. And it's such a shock to them. I can't even, you know, in this place of like,

I still love this person, but they've done this thing. - I know. - And it's really hard. - It must be impossible.

It must feel impossible. - Okay, let's take a break. - Okay. - And we'll get into the DMs. Let's talk about what people are,

questions people are sending. - We will. (whooshing) - All right, let's get into tells from the DMs. These are the weirdest things y'all have sent me.

Everything but the news.

- Friends, what do I always say?

While Michael is a lawyer, he's not your lawyers, so you should probably get your own. Sorry. - Okay, we've got some reviews. - So this is from our Affirmant episode

and somebody emailed in and said, "I usually enjoy your show." - Oh, I... (laughing) - Usually.

But if you think the city's in PA could be conflated with the woman being interviewed and doffing county. Oh, now I understand. - No, no, no woman.

I said she gave me this. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are sadly mistaken. Do you even look at maps? Okay.

- Oh my, who picked this review, CJ? You're supposed to shelter the talent. - Just coming from, just coming for the edges. - All right. - All right.

- We got the Allegheny butcher in the fucking comments. It's Mayor of East Town with a clock. - I mean, I don't know. I know enough about Doffing County to really... - I don't know.

- I don't know about Pennsylvania. And I am, this is fucking how dare you, CJ. These are supposed to be a handpicked, just the nice reviews for our fragile egos. We are hired talent.

This is... - I mean, I cannot handle the criticism. - No, I'm fine. I just... I think the thing is, person,

is that we don't know enough about Doffing County to be like... - I don't know. - We don't... - How? - Yeah.

- We're supposed to know. - Oh no, I'm just a little confused. - I don't know. - This is a Pennsylvania. - No, I think what they're saying is that I was probably,

which I do this all the time. I was making blanket statements about an entire state. - Okay. - Which is, I'm sure there is a much nuance there. - I'm sure they can come to me.

- I can come to me. - But it's like if someone said to you, oh, Melissa. - What? - You... - Talk like a girl from the Bronx.

Or something like that. - And that in the Bronx. - Yeah, exactly. - There's something wrong with the Bronx. If you're from the Bronx, - Right.

“- So I think that's what you're saying is,”

we probably... - You were a several baby. - Blankings, blankets, statements about cities, in Pennsylvania, and comparing them to what was a very very... - Well, we're supposed to know that this woman was from Doffing County.

- I don't know. It was probably something that came up anecdotally. - Okay. - And it's where we have producers on this show, who are supposed to be doing this.

- It was the woman at the gas park. - Yeah. - And you know what I know? - Yeah. - No, I don't know. - I don't know.

- From Silly or Pittsburgh. - I mean, I mean, you see Jay with a softful of batteries. - All right. - Unbelievable. - Oh, my God. - Okay. - Well, listen, I guess we're sorry.

I mean, I'm not sure what they want us to say.

Youch! (laughing) - My God. - I look at a map. Obviously, the blue part is the land.

Okay. This is from Jacqueline with a K-13 from the Affirmant episode.

“Guys, Affirmant, for some reason I didn't register”

that he was a guest on this show, and please start introducing them. I'm not even high, I swear. (laughing) The same user wants to have Alyssa on the podcast.

That's if we can ever track her down. - I know. Alyssa. Where are you? - Seriously, she needs to take care of her head. I'm someone whose head multiple concussions. - What is happening?

- Why are the viewers of this show can cost people from Pennsylvania? - Who else? - We're going to get into so much trouble. (laughing)

- Oh my God. Okay. From Affirmant episode,

my husband always wanted a dog,

and I told him once our oldest cat passed away, he could. Plot twist, he died, and then the cat died, so I guess I'll never have to have a dog.

- Oh, Sheila. - Your husband died? - I think that's what she meant. When I read that I was trying to figure it out, and I think that's what she means.

I'm sorry for your loss, Sheila. I'm not really sure how to react to this one. - I think she wants us to have fun. - Okay. - Plot twist, he died, and then the cat died too.

- That's my husband died. So this is, can cost people from Pennsylvania who are widows. - widows. - widows.

- Can cost widows. - From Pennsylvania. - This is the fans of our show, and I love it. I love it. I love it. You know what she'll get a girl,

and get that cat get that dog live your truth, because if my husband, if Brad kicked the bucket,

which we all know I'm probably gonna go first,

just based off 40 miles of rough highway, leading up to this day, and his perfect pristine record in life, if he for some reason goes first, I'm getting a bunch of cats, a bunch of dogs,

he doesn't want cats. - Do you wanna cat? - I love cats. - I love you. - I think you're more of a dog person.

- I am, but I also love cats. - Yeah. - Brad's just dogs. - Just dogs. - And if you ever meet him, please say that.

- What is Brad? I didn't know that's about you. Brad, what's your problem with cats? - He likes cats. He just doesn't want one. - Okay.

- And I'm like, they're so weird. - Cats are great. - They're good for you, sure you get a girl.

You live your truth. - Arthur Weasley met my nephew this weekend,

and it was a love at first sight.

Meanwhile, his cat runs away from him. - Really?

“- I think he's got to come live with Tatimus.”

- I think so. - Yeah. - I know. - Even though I called Melissa, Melissa was babysitting her nephew,

called her that the day the nephew. - I was wrong through. - I thought you had COVID. - Yeah, I mean too. - I was like, we're going to have to cancel the recording.

- I mean, I was talking to some other people with kids. I was like, I didn't take a shower all day. I couldn't figure out that when I had time. This is another one from the aforementioned episode. - Really weird, really common, but my goodness.

That interview with Aphmint literally made my day. Maybe even my week, LOL. Anyways, been with you guys since your first episode, and it keeps getting better and better. Looking forward to more.

Thanks, Brian. Appreciate you. - I love that. - I love Brian. - Okay, so we've got a question from Tish.

Questions from the DM emailed to us. Hello, first of all. Thank you both for drawing attention to the current events. Also bringing entertainment and oh, we all need it right now. I know I need some some days.

I saw YouTube posted about detainees and dilly detention center, having to pay $39 for a bottle of drinking water. - Is that for real? - That is real. - Okay.

- It's $40 for a bottle of water. - Why is that okay? - It's not okay. - Well, obviously it is that they're doing it. Why are they able to do that?

“- Because they're saying that you need to have a doctor's note.”

- To have water? - Yes. But they're denying access to see the doctor. So then they're charging you for $39 for bottle of water. People are literally dying in these detention centers.

Like it's actually concentration camps. And I held off a really long time using that word. Because I was like that word has a lot of connotation. - About a lot of historical events. - Yeah.

- I don't want to use it until we were in a place. It's that time. It's like how they didn't want to use shelter in place until it was like a true emergency. Now we can actually use the word concentration camp.

- Yeah, no, it's actually crazy. So this person wants to know if we can donate to detainees. You absolutely can. - Okay. - So there's a really cool nonprofit that I do work with called

Jira Soul. It's linked to my link tree if you want to check it out. - And we'll put it in the show notes. - And they do a lot of social work as well as legal work. So for example, detainees, if I get them bonded out,

they literally just like open the door to the detention center in rural Georgia. And it's like good luck kid like you're on your own. And there's like no bus stop. There's no bus ticket.

You don't have a phone. You don't have your wallet. You don't have anything. Sometimes you're mentally disabled.

And that nonprofit will work with different organizations in the area or send someone to literally like usher the person home. I have clients who were picked up in a major city in New York. They're now detained in Arizona. Like I just like shipped them.

- Right. - So they don't know anyone. They have no access. - They have no way to get home. - So these nonprofits like Jira Soul

have funds just for purposes just for that. - I read about a story about a man like that who was detained and he got released. Like almost in the middle of nowhere. And they sort of open the door and like booted him out.

- Yeah. - And some there's some volunteers. - I have him. I have him. My clients right now.

- Yeah.

- They are in a detention center in a place they have never been to before.

They are all from somewhere else. - I mean, that's, I mean, yes, that's terrible, right?

“But for me what the worst thing about that is”

when they decide to let those people out, you've transported them someplace and now they have no money, no access. So you've let them out and you're like, like you said good luck.

- Literally, yeah, it's like you're on your own. - That is, that's criminal. - We are going to be sued and there will be indictments. - I hear sound to be so much accountability. - I really, it is, it's unbelievable.

And even from let alone justice and wanting to make sure that the right thing is done, a private civil lawyer is going to make so much money in just fees alone is doing the government in the future on behalf of these people,

class action lawsuits, just from that perspective alone, someone is going to make so much money off of that. So you know what's going to come. If there's money tied to it, there's going to be, it's going to come.

- I need to see people in handcuffs. I really do. I need to see mug shots. I need to see. - Wait for me up for that.

Wake me up for that.

“I'm going to call me up by the end for that.”

- Okay. - Alright, that's tells from the dams. Be sure to send us your messages. You can record a voice note through my link tree. It's called Speak Pipe.

Just click on that and you can leave your voice mail or player voice on the show. Or you can email us at [email protected] and tell us about how we have set awful things about your hometown. Thanks everyone for watching.

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