Becky G: Cheating & People Pleasing

What is up, Daddy Gang?

It is your founding father, Alex Cooper.

We call her Daddy. [MUSIC PLAYING] Becky, do you welcome to Caller Daddy? Do I call you Daddy or Alex? You can call me whatever you want.

I'll call you puppy. OK. I'm just kidding. I will not. I will not get upset about that.

I have been so excited to talk to you. I feel like you have had just such an incredible massive career. I know you started at nine years old. Now your music has streamed over 20 billion times. You've sold out tours.

You've received five Latin Grammy nominations. You've been in this industry for almost two decades. But I do still feel like there is so much to discover about you. And so much of your story that hasn't fully been told. So I've been really looking forward to sit down with you.

Same. Thank you so much for having me. Of course.

I heard that on your writer, you always have to kill up.

And your preshow ritual is to take it to kill a shot before. So I figured, if you're down, I poured us two to kill a shot. There! No! I love this.

This is going to be my favorite podcast I've ever done ever. I like it's one PM. I want to do a little cheer. I'm going to clock somewhere. What should we toast to?

“I think we should toast to, being big daddy's in our fields.”

I think we should toast to the fact that I'm sitting in this couch 'cause I've seen so many people that I love and admire sit right here across from you. And I just feel so, yeah, excited for this conversation. So toast to you.

Cheers. Cheers, we'll do the barriva. Barriva? Barriva? Barriva?

Barriva? Barriva? Oh, shit, this looks big. These are really cute glasses. Okay.

You took that down nice girl. Oh, I'm trying. Are you a tequila drinker? I am, but I'm more reposado also looking in your eyes. And I'm like, why is she not flenching?

So I'm trying. Blenching. I think you wore it nicely. Okay, okay. We did that right.

How did that become a tradition for you with your shows? Did you do that before every show? I'm Mexican. I just felt right. Yeah, I just felt right.

I know that sounds really funny, but I just feel like that's like our, it's like a celebratory thing. It's also like a warm-up thing. I'm sure you've heard singers talk about hot toddies and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's just like, I just wanted tequila straight. Is that your go-to drink? It really is. Just tequila straight. Just tequila on the rocks, or it could be warm.

It could be mixed. It could be a... I'm just gonna go along. I will just have tequila on the rocks, and I'm happy. Happy.

Fuck Mary Kill tequila vodka gin. Oh, just fuck Mary tequila, everything else can die. You don't drink anything else? You know, I do, I'm like, why? I'm just not like an alcoholic, oh my God.

I'm like, you're fine. Let me watch myself. No, I love wines. So, you know what's funny? I feel like wines and food are great pairings for me.

I'm also like a champagne girly every now and then. I love a little bubbles. Um, but it's tequila. But tequila is just my, yeah, I have a beer every now and then. A little tequila on the side.

Yeah. But tequila. Okay, we're gonna kick it off with the game. Oh, that's good. I'm gonna ask you some of your firsts and your worsts.

Oof. Are you ready? Yes. Okay.

“What is the first thing you do every morning when you wake up?”

First thing I do every morning when I wake up.

I don't know, try to get it together girl. Yeah. It depends on the season. If I'm in like recovery season, it's like meditation. I make my morning coffee at home.

If it's a busy season, I'm probably panicking at the like multiple text messages that I've missed that have, you know, approvals that I need to get to and deadlines that need to be met. I know. That's season I'm in right now.

It's funny. It's like, I want to be that girl that's not like, I look at my phone. But I'm like, oh, fuck. I am that person. It's like, I look at my phone.

Like, I don't like, I need to stop. Yeah. And so I do, I catch myself. I would say like, I try to balance is impossible to sustain all the time. It's just, you have to recalibrate.

Okay. Good answer. What's the worst habit you have? You know what it used to be, biting my nails. These are my actual nails, y'all.

Oh, wow. I do not buy my nails no more. I am so bad at that.

“And that's why I just do gel because I'm like, okay, who is the first celebrity that”

actually left you star struck? Oh shit. Oh damn. You know what's so crazy? Okay.

Obviously, you probably had the same thing where it's like, this is what we do, right? So you're like, play cool, play cool.

they would be. So you're actually not as like, whoa, like, oh my god, you're actually like, oh, your cool is fuck. We can have a conversation and I don't feel what I thought I was going to feel in the best way.

Not in the bad way. I would say when I did the Oscars for the first time, and I was doing the rehearsals on the stage, I wasn't even star struck by the person themselves, but the photo cards that they have of them. You know how they have pictures?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Girl, Dan's out Washington. I was like, I didn't know it's so many movies. Like, why is it that I'm freaking out right now?

“Like, she's going to be right there when I'm singing, like, huh?”

That actually such a good answer too, because it's not like, Dan's out Washington's like, "I'm not going to be like mega super famous people that are obviously like so worthy of like kiss the ground they walk on."

And you know, they're so incredible.

No, that's a good answer. He's a legend. Yeah. Okay. What's the worst rumor you've ever seen about yourself online?

Look, I know AI is a touchy conversation these days, but I was saying the craziest pictures of myself. And they're familiar. Easy, easy. I don't know what I'm going to look like when I'm pregnant, she's giving cute

to you. Like, I'm here for it. Dude, that's getting scary. It's scary. What is the worst date you've ever been on?

I remember still till this day. It is, I love food. So like, if you have me choose between you and food, I'm going to choose food because

food's always been there for me.

You know? I remember it was so awkward and like me and this guy were dating for some time, too. So it was like, okay, you're getting a little too comfortable and I don't like this. But it was something I simple as like the food came and I was like eating and I'm, I do happy dances and like, I don't chew in my mouth open, but I take big bites.

You know? I want to get a little bit of everything on the plate and this homeboy has the choice

“of words to say, you know what's not going anywhere, right?”

Okay. Okay. So live it. No, I remember. And I'm like, let's look you probably to all of Garden.

What did you think was going to happen? Wait, he, okay. So he brought it. I'm living it in. I'm living it in.

I'm living it in. I'm living it in. I'm living it. And the pasta. They won't be there forever.

I know it was indignally, but it's so good. Like, it's the consistency. It's just, you know. The strategy. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. It's just, what was your reaction? No, I just remember, I kept eating my food. I was like, you're just background noise right now.

Like, I'm now I'm going to chew on my mouth open. I hope you don't like me. Break up with me. Right now. You're like, I'm going to finish this.

And then I'm going to actually leave you. But again, I'm not leaving until I finish this meal. Yeah. And it's unlimited super salivate. So.

Girl. Why would you live it? Okay. What is your worst irrational fear? You know, I had a feeling we'd get into, like, therapy talk eventually, but like, this

is a little soon. I think just letting, it's not really irrational, I guess, but just like letting the people I love down, like, yeah, the people I love down is like letting them down is just, it's a lot. Yeah.

Yeah. So let's get into therapy talk. Yeah. Let's do a girl. Okay, so take me back.

Tell me about growing up in Los Angeles, like, what was your community, like? I mean, I'm, I'm a proud, um, Inglewood native and I'm a proud Chicana, Mexican American. I'm one of 19 grandchildren on my mom's side and one of 15 on my dad's. There's grand babies or great grand babies now, so I'm a, a thea, I have nieces and nephews,

um, and my baby sister just had a baby too. So the family just keeps growing, so I grew up around a lot of community. As my grandma would say, like, me Pobito, like, my little village, like, this is, this was everything for us growing up.

So I feel like I grew up feeling supported and feeling, like, I was never truly alone,

even though obviously you go through things in life that sometimes you do feel lonely in, um, I always had, like, my tribe and yeah, and I would say Inglewood, you know, it's a predominantly brown and black community, um, I grew up watching the airplanes take off from LAX and land into LAX and I would always wonder where are those planes going and where are they coming from, you know?

“And now, like, it's so crazy to fast forward to where my life is now and I'm still here.”

I'm still in LA, I'm a proud Angelino, um, but I'm on the planes now and I get to see my, my grandparents' houses, depending on which side of the plane, I'm sitting on because if you know LAX and you're on a plane, if you're on the right side, you can see Inglewood

of like the South Bay, like, that's like where my, my family is from. It is so crazy that, like, no matter how successful you get and where your life takes you, you still connect that younger version of yourself or like that little girl was like, I want to be on one of those planes one day and like, I want to see the world and now every time you're on a plane, you're looking down, being like, oh my gosh, I'm the girl

on the plane now, which is really sweet. Um, I do know that at nine years old, you decided to start working to help support your family, which is like, that is really, really young.

“That's about like, third grade, did it feel like a choice at the time?”

It did. I think older me now, looking back at it, considering the circumstances, there was definitely pressure, external pressure, um, just from the, the system, I think, around me to, to step up and some kind of way, but one thing I admire about little backs is that she was very much the driver of her life, even if she wasn't, she was convinced she was and I think

this is a theme with like, I'm the oldest of four kids.

I have two younger brothers in a little sister and you just always got to know.

Like, even if I don't know, I got to know. I got to figure it out, you know? So, um, I very much knew what I was getting myself into. I very much wanted to pursue this, considering that no one else in my family had ever worked in the entertainment industry, it was kind of out of the blue that all of a sudden, because

I saw random Shirley Temple, you know, multi, uh, VHS videos growing up, but I was like, oh, she did it. I can do it, too, you know, or decode a fanning and, um, and so I, yeah, I just, I just did it.

“And I think what's interesting is like, having this passion that you were like, I want”

to do this. Like, no one told me to do this. Like, I really wanted to do this, but then inevitably, especially, I think in the entertainment industry, because you're around so many adults, like, you are forced to grow up quickly in a way that no one can really prepare you for.

And like, in what ways I guess did being praised for being, I'm assuming, getting called mature, like, a lot of young girls, yes, like how did getting called mature and strong reinforce those traits as, like, the eldest daughter to like, step up and to take everything on yourself. I think it does feel very rewarding when you're young, you're like, oh, I'm doing something

good. I'm doing something right. Me today is like, there's no such thing as good or bad or right or wrong. There just is. And I think I very much was just trying to survive the circumstances that I was living.

And when we lost our home, which was kind of like the catalyst, as well as, and I talk about this in my documentary, actually, but the addiction kind of playing a huge part in the four walls that I was growing up with, with my dad being an addict. We had nothing. We found ourselves living in my grandparents' converted garage.

It's six of us. And, you know, there was no insulation. We did have carpet. It was just rolled out on the ground, though, concrete on the other side, so it wasn't soft or plushy.

It was carpet, and it was, it wasn't tough, though. Like, you're a kid. There's a bit of naiveness that I think was in my favor, if that makes sense. Because I was like, oh, it's a big sleepover every single night. Like, oh, I'm sharing a bed with my baby sister, like, oh, cuddles, you know?

Like, it was never looked at as something that I was ashamed of, at least not yet, because

in that time, you're so young. You don't really know what's happening, or you do, you have an idea, but you can't really do something about it. You know? So you're just making with what you've got.

And like, when you talk about how addiction in those four walls, like, when you look back, like, how long do you feel like you were in survival mode of, like, there's nothing I can really do. I just gotta, I just gotta get up every day and go do my thing.

“I mean, the truth is, is it's generational, yeah, it's generational, and I think when”

you and anybody I think who's probably tuning in knows, if you've grown up around addiction,

it is, there's something there, it's not always just drugs, it's not always just alcohol,

you know, sometimes it's work. There's an avoidance of type that fuels this, this deeper wound, and that is absolutely generational, you know? So this is before my parents, this is before my, my grandparents, even, and I have a lot of empathy around that for sure, but I would say then the moment I came out, you know,

I had young high school sweet heart parents who got married straight out and were like,

And I think what's so interesting when something is generational, it's like, it inevitably

is so hard to not have it just be this like normalized, understood thing that it actually takes someone going against the grain and making things like a little uncomfortable or calling things out to actually have it not continue to be this transgenerational trauma, but that takes such an effort to break. And so when you are such a young child, how are you going to do anything other than like

fall in line and play your role and then eventually when you have some more autonomy, then you'll be able to look back and be like, ha, what would I have changed about that

“dynamic, but until you have that, there's nothing you can really do, and I think something”

that could be really relatable to the audience watching is like, it makes me think back

to that word mature as a young girl, like, you shouldn't have to be mature at such a young age. So when you are given that validation that makes you feel like you're in the inner circle of adults, it's intoxicating, but what it really is when you get older, you look back and you're like, that's really fucking dangerous to tell a young woman like you're so mature, you're so strong. It's like, but should I have had to be that mature

and strong? Like, did you ever feel like, why am I caring a lot of this way? When did that click for you? Because I'm assuming it did. But absolutely did it manifested physically before it did with, like, full conscious awareness.

So a lot of my symptoms were full blown panic attacks multiple day chronic people pleasing.

I just, the words no, like, the way my body would just, like, literally, like, contortion in a sense. If I, like, really felt to know, and I had to say it, and then in most times I would fold, and I'd be like, okay, well, maybe not, like, because I'd see the reaction on the other side, growing up in this industry longer than I've ever not been doing it. It was like the perfect storm. So it starts within the household, right? The four walls

that I grew up in, but then the conditioning that happens in the industry, it's very rewarding when you start to gain success for being such a chronic people pleaser. Because you're like, wow, you love me, you, you choose me when I'm doing what you want me to do. But what you're also though, saying Becky is like, you grew up in a place where you were people pleaser. Yeah, so many times that I have to say, yes, right. So no, wasn't me, it wasn't

me at an option. It didn't feel like it. Can you also talk about you mentioned earlier,

“which I think so many people relate to, is also the added level of complexity of being”

the eldest daughter. Oh, girl, you want to get into a birth order theories. We can do that. We can do this attachment theories. I, I am definitely someone who I think in the beginning was like, oh, I'm just an empath. Like, that just is, you know, like, and I am. I am somebody who chooses to lead with kindness and awareness around how someone is allowed to feel, how they want to feel, even if it doesn't align with where I am that. But that's

like the progress part that I've gotten to. If we rewind a few years ago, yeah, I was like, oh, I'm just, I have to be a self-sacrificeer. I have to give up mine for the greater good. I have to, you know, think logically and not about how I actually feel. And I think a lot of firstborns feel that way, but what's cool about learning about birth order theory, because I'm the oldest of four and I will stand 10 toes down for my brothers

and my sister. I'm so thankful that they exist and they are my best friends. They didn't have it easy either. You know, so it's not that like, firstborns have it the hardest, but it's that we have a different version of our parents. All of us do. It's such a good point because I have friends who are the oldest child. And that is so in line with what

“they've said. And then also I think any of my friends were the oldest and had some instability”

in their home. A lot of times we talk about how a perentified child develops such a high EQ because you're so hyper aware of every single person's emotions in your family. And it almost forces you to be one step ahead of every situation so that you know like, this is how I'll solve it. This is how I'll handle it. Like, this is going on with my parents. Like, this is how I'm going to save my siblings, this is how I'm going to save myself,

this is how I'm going to fix this situation. And you're constantly having to be ahead and thinking of everyone but yourself. And it's hard to realize that everyone's emotions are not your responsibility. Yeah. And I'm curious if you have any advice now as you've

watching that has still that like weight or burden of being the oldest child and taking on so much responsibility. Yeah. Okay. Wait. As you're saying this is literally making me think about there was a time where I, oh my god, this is going to be really embarrassing

“to share. I don't think I've ever shared this story. But I remember I was, we were going”

through a lot as a family. And I was like, oh, it's offered this opportunity to be a part of like this like Disney holiday experience. And I was going to perform and it was going to be the coolest thing ever. And I, me and my family, we're from Cali, like we loved going

to Disneyland growing up and my baby sister had never been a Disney world before. So I was like,

oh my god, like, you know, things are not so good at home. I'm going to take my baby sister to Disney world. This is going to be amazing. I'm going to do some work, but we're going to have a good time. I do drinks around the world. And I have one too many. And I wake up in my hotel room. And I'm like, wait, the sun hasn't even gone down yet. Like, what happened? Like, I was in full panic mode, palpitations. Like, I'm sweating. I'm looking

at my sister and the moment I look at her, I just start crying. And I'm like, I'm so sorry.

“And my sister is like crying, but she's like laughing. She's like, this is my baby sister”

guys. And we're because we're going through so much at home. I was like, I want to like

take her to have a break from everything that we've been going through. And they here,

I am getting all tops and turvy upside down. Yeah. But it sounds like Becky, it's because you need a break. You need a couple of breaking points. And I'm over here crucifying myself. Right? And I'm like, I'm the worst sister on the planet. Like, I can't believe I did this. Like, I ruined the trip. Like, I'm so sorry. I'm like, profusely apologizing to her. I'm apologizing to my girls who on the trip. Morgan, who we were talking about earlier,

my style is shout out to Morgan. Um, you know. And so it was like a very small group of us. And I call them to the room. And I like, I'm like putting on this like, you know, confessional, like, apology of like, why I did what I did. And I'm explaining myself. And they're literally

looking at me like, are you serious right now? As they're still tipsy, by the way. Right. They're

like, girl. They're like, do you know what I have done? Black out drunk? And also like, girl, like, you, all of us are here because of you. You, you were looking at your sister being like, I am going to give you the reprieve that you need me. Well, it's like, what we just talked about, like, hey, actually seems like someone may need it a little bit more. Mate, I needed it a little bit more. And oh, yeah. And I was just like, and it, I walked away from it being like,

wait. And so it just led to an much more open conversation around other young women, my age, who were like, wait, don't do this to yourself. Like, by the way, you know, that's like a thing, right? People go drink and around. And it's like a challenge of like, how far can you go? And bitch, you made it to frozen. Like, you were like, let it go, let it go. And we were like, yes, like, let it go. And you're in your head thinking you ruined everyone's time. Yeah. And

you're like, oh, my god, I ruined this whole thing. And it's like, girl, you like, couldn't I just, because of those people facing tendencies where you're like, yes, it's, you're so hard, wired, essentially. Yeah. Ready for the worst case scenario. Ready to make sure that everyone else is comfortable and everyone's like, Becky, go back to bed. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's, that's just like a good example. But like, you have some people are just like, girl, I don't even remember what happened.

“Isn't that so funny? No, I was like, oh, my god, I don't even remember happened. Like, how did we get back?”

Oh, my god, I put my baby sister in the worst position. As if she's not also like a whole, like, grown ass young woman herself, you know? And so it was just like one of those times where I was like, yo, I need to check in with myself. And I need to like dive into this like, why am I hanging my self up for something that should actually lead me to more curiosity? Yes, like, what is going on? Yeah. And it's like, what's so crazy? Because I have siblings too, and I'm the youngest, but it's like,

when you have dynamics with your siblings, no matter how old you get, you still kind of see each other in those four walls that you grew up in. And so when you are around your siblings, like my siblings and I have had some really beautiful conversations around like, regressing almost when we're around each other. Because like, I still feel like the baby and you still feel like my oldest sister. And like, there's so much history that you meet adults and you're a completely different person

to these people that you're interacting with. They don't see was the oldest daughter. They don't see you as someone who was trying to help provide for them. So there's like so much ingrained in family

actively recognize and be like, girl, your baby sister is fine. You took her to Disneyland.

“And she's a big enough adult that she could have managed herself. You can't ruin her life.”

Well, the party continues. Like, I said in the room, I had some chicken nuggets, and I definitely was like, I need to sober up and take a shower. But the party continued with the vibes and the do me of it on. Everything was fine. Everything was totally fine. Why the way I was like, is there pictures? Is there videos? Like, did somebody catch me up going? They were like, no. Like, you were so normal. Like, you're so fine. But I was going through so much.

Chanicking that I like completely shut off. And like, you know, I think that that that is like a

really good example of like, just how far on this spectrum you can go of like,

codependency, people pleasing. Like, you don't give yourself any space in grace. It just be a young 20 something year old figuring it out. I was going to say it also feels like from your upbringing, like you really had to be in such control at all times, because there was no plan B.

“There was no safety net. It's like, you need to figure this out, because there's no other option.”

And I know you had a complicated relationship with your father. How did that dynamic influence just like decisions you made growing up as a child? You know, it's really interesting looking back at it now. I think I had a lot of anger. Anger wasn't an easy emotion for me to process. Obviously, they say anger is sadness. What is it sadness is a bodyguard? And so my anger, I would put towards my career. I just thought that the more successful I became, the more I

made, the less this would be an issue. And if I became a better husband to my mother and I became a better father to my siblings, then, you know, maybe he'll figure it out. You can't do the work for someone else, you know, and I wish, yes, of course, you can't go back in time, but I wish younger me had someone to to lean on and also hear that from because it is this like unspoken permission that you give yourself to say, you know what, not my problem. It takes a long time to

get there. It takes a lot and when it feels like the whole entire family system depends on you for that. And by the way, every person who plays a part in that system feels the same way, right? So it's like, like I said, it's this like unspoken thing, but yeah, it's definitely something that I wore for a really long time and there was a lot of avoidance with that with my dad and I,

“I just tried to out dad my dad. That's how I became a big daddy, you know?”

How do you think like that essentially sounds like, yes, anger and resentment towards your father? Like, how do you think it impacted your view of like just like authoritative figures at a young age? Like, did you respect male figures and adults were you scared of them? I think it made me more vulnerable. I didn't necessarily respect my dad and we've had many conversations about this. I had no respect for him and the choices that he was making. I still

have love for him and so the care to want to continue to move things along for the sake of my siblings and their mental health and their emotional well-being that desperate need was was very much present, but it made me vulnerable to looking to other men in the industry to be like the one who is going to look out for me. Like big brother figures or other father figures and like these people are not your daddy. They are not your big brother. They can be healthy partners actually

in business, but if you put this like very young filter on it, you are like, wow, no one's ever looked out for me or believed in me in that way and you hold the keys to the treasure box that I'm trying to unlock of what's going to get me to where it is that I know I can get and so you are. You absolutely are vulnerable to it, but that was something that I needed to work through. That wasn't anyone else's fault. You know? That point too and I bet so many women will relate to what

you're talking about. It's like the feeling of never ending like you just said like I wanted to

out dad my dad. That is like such a heavy thing to feel because you're you're never going to be the dad of your family, but you tried clearly and then that's going to like linger yes into these male relationships where you like can you play this one role that I needed in this role? Like what did outdad in your dad look like in your childhood for you? Yeah, I mean I became the sole provider for my family by 16 years old. Yeah and it looked like being at you know peaks on charts

and not having any health insurance because when you were going to end the same industry you know

these are things that you know I was able to provide for myself but like when it came to my family

I was like my dad's losing his job like my siblings got to get through school tuition's have to get paid like and they deserve to play sports if they want to like because they're good at it and and I I have an escape they deserve an escape too so it was like I just needed to produce more than for myself but for everyone else since yeah since my very very early teen years. It's so much pressure to put on yourself yeah it was it was a lot was anyone there to

support you I think that people were there to support me in the best ways they knew how to yeah I think my mom did oh my god my mom is my girl like my mom is is somebody who

“even when she didn't know what was going on I think she had a good read on things I remember”

they're getting it getting to a point where I had worked so hard to to to get far in my career and optically things were very successful behind closed doors things were not very successful financially you know I was caring a lot of way and so if I was just a single girl living on her own like I'd be just fine but I'm providing for my whole family and you know it looks a lot different

and so I remember just kind of like finally like looking up and being like wow I'm still here

like I'm still here and not in a good way like I haven't moved forward like I'm still in the same neighborhood I grew up in I'm still dealing with the same shit when it comes to like my parents and their marriage I'm still carrying these ways I'm still and I and I thought I reached like a milestone at that point that many my age hadn't even really breached and I was

“still hung up on the fact that like but we're still here like you know and and I think that my mom”

when she's witnessing me in that moment you know it gets to a point where you had to break your point like I this pressure is unbearable that like I don't even want to exist anymore

and I remember my mom grabbing me by the face and telling me you could choose to never pick up

a microphone ever again and I promise you it's okay I think you you're good we'll figure it out we've always figured it out like it's not on you this isn't on you and she took that off of me were you able to fully hear that though like could you believe it not receive it girl that's a whole other thing was I willing to receive it no because again the system isn't it's it's subconscious it's not I don't think our parents go through life saying I want to cause our kids harm I don't think

our grandparents do that saying I want to cause my kids harm you know these are just things that systemically exist you know and so when I say it's generational like it's generational and so I'm like yeah but somebody's got to do it because if I don't who else will and that was the voice that kept me going for really long time until I ended up in therapy and I was like yeah I can this isn't sustainable I feel like so much of our dynamic with our parents shapes the partners we choose and how we show up

in relationships like looking back how do you think you're upbringing influence the relationships

“that you were drawn to oh tremendously tremendously I think the first time we ever experience love”

is through our parents eyes you know and it's yes of course in the way they love us but also in the way they love each other and I think I grew up in a culture I mean it's gonna sound funny but it's like very rider die and like me today is like if I ride what I gotta die why we got a die where are we going I want to know like if I'm riding there's some conditions here there's some boundaries that I'd like to put in place you know but it was very much this like my grandma

would say this phrase to my mom with my dad and in regards to their marriage like one then I want this me cut like put your gloves on like you're gonna fight for your marriage and I remember being young and being like well that's very one-sided like shouldn't it be both sides like shouldn't it be but you can only meet people as deep as they've met themselves and I think my mom had a very profound way of loving and my dad did too but it just looked very

differently you know it looked very different I know you grew up in a household where one of your parents cheated and then in your documentary you opened up about being betrayed

that process with the documentary in particularly in there being conversations about are you gonna talk about this you know very public situation are you not gonna talk about it and I was like

“well we're gonna talk about it we have to to me I've always believed like half the truth is still”

a lie and there was conversations about like why would I just wouldn't even mention it like some people don't even know what happened like some people don't even even are looking for it and I'm like yeah but how can I have been in a relationship with someone for so many years and do a body of work you know that's supposed to really capture where I am in this time in my

life and also my history and control all delete and pretend that this person never existed you know

and I was in many relationships but particularly in a long-term relationships since I was 19 years old and I know that there's like things online about like the 19 theory like you know when you go I think anybody who gets into a serious relationship at a young age isn't conscious of the fact that you are gonna shed and you are gonna go through seasons and that doesn't stop necessarily

“but in your younger adult years I think I had a very strong sense of self based off of old programming”

and when I went through this very public situation with my partner it was like this awakening it was this like moment of like oh there's a massive misalignment and who I thought I

was and who I actually am and I think that that happens a lot for people who grow up and family

systems where it's like you can see it on someone else so easy to judge someone else and say oh my god like don't you see it you know and then you can find yourself on the other side of that table the next day and be like wait all done not everything is what it seems and also I am not my mother and he is not my father and so there's also the possibility that there's an opportunity here for there to be some healing whether together or not an opportunity though nonetheless to

really practice what it is to be the person that I know I want to be in this world versus who I thought I was right and and that's like going so far back into again the conditioning of the chronic people pleasing and like wanting to just say yes and wanting to be like super under the rug and keep it moving you know yeah and even like I appreciate you saying that because I think having had like you just like we're talking about like watching your father cheat on your

mother and being like okay I have a documentary moment where I have something playing out in my life that to me at face value could look like I'm reliving what happened to my parents but now I need to assess it and be like I can't let my my shit from my past influence like what is how I feel right now with this partner and what do I want to do like do you mind talking about just like when you found out like how did it affect you because you're obviously in such a more healed place now but

like I've been there I have been there girl where like I stayed with someone who cheated and I wanted to stay but I was it was so complicated because those decisions are like people are judging

“you don't know how to react like how did you handle all this in the moment I think also you”

saying like you wanting to stay it's interesting because your want is enough like you can want it so bad but that's just not enough you know and I think that understanding where that want comes from is also really important because if you're just doing it to want to prove other people wrong then you're just doing it for others and that's not a good place you know to come from and it's

interesting because well I've first off I've never talked about this so it is I'm thankful for this

safe space to be able to talk about it because some of the stuff that I was challenged with there's a private heartbreak that's taking place and then there's a public heartbreak that's taking place and both are extremely painful but what was I think the hardest part for me to navigate through was giving myself that space in grace to make that decision for myself and that was one of those moments where it was an opportunity for me to heal and look inward as to okay whether it's

this person or another person that I get into a relationship with I'm capable of still making these same decisions so this is more than just like a well let me be the Barbie that everybody wants me to be and play a cute bed with all of these cute guys in the industry that everybody wants

you know really listen to what other people's perception is on what an empowered woman is

you know this is very binary thinking right I wanted to go there I really did oh man the therapy sessions that I had of this like very black and white space that I was existing and it's like you know and and it was very clear to me that it was a space where I needed to decide for myself

“but that's so hard Becky because like I think we all know like they're especially because you”

were handling it in the public and private like you just said there is such a loud narrative especially for women of like if you stay you don't respect yourself if you stay your week and like what what is your take on that assumption and how did you manage to like block that out and be like what do I want it's interesting you say that there's a quote that Esther Pearl who I've know you even spoken to her I love I have the biggest girl crush on her I remember hearing something along

the lines of like you know back in the days women used to be shamed for leaving it was just a mistake how could you leave how could you throw it all away you know he can change and then now it's like the opposite now it's like if you stay you're a dumb bitch you're a dumb bitch you so stupid I

cannot believe her oh my god I could never I could never and it's like the girls who would say I

could never like I actually love that for you I love that that's where you started that that was your ground zero that was not my ground zero my ground zero was people pleasing self-sacrificing doing what other people wanted me to do for getting that I mattered in that equation and this was an opportunity in my life to unlock and go inward and make this about me which was so uncomfortable you know it's really really uncomfortable to go anywhere and say wait this is about me and what I want

and if you know me you know that I do not make decisions passively and it was so hard to shut out the noise and the insider say she didn't she didn't even say anything they just swept it under the rug and kept it moving like no I called off my engagement I took off my ring like there are things here that took place behind closed doors privately between me and this person who I love and care for deeply who I've been betrayed by and let and we could go into this

spectrum of betrayal because it looks different for everybody but the thing about betrayal is it doesn't just make you not trust the other person you don't trust yourself anymore and so that was like this ain't even about you anymore this isn't even about them anymore this is about me

and there was something so empowering about that process to say no I come first this is about me

what do I want and there has to be alignment with the person on the other side like I said earlier like the want isn't enough the love isn't enough like it love is it's a it's a beautiful thing to experience for someone but I mean considering everything I went through with my family like

“I I walked away from my dad like it wasn't something that I wasn't willing to do and so I think”

the misalignment from how from a public perspective how it was so and I'm not really like a controversial person you know maybe getting getting by got drunk in Disney World is probably the most country for something I've done so so unfamiliar for me to kind of like wear this like I don't know the thing that was projected on to me that I am like not an empowered woman that I'm a contradiction about what I sing about and it's like no those feelings are real what I sing about is real

like those there's so much more nuance to emotions like you're putting me in a box and everything I've ever worked for is now being squeezed into this tiny like I'm I'm put to be the small all of a sudden and it's like everything else I had ever worked on didn't matter anymore and like of course I was you think I was not everybody the world that I was not a him too I was like come on why do I gotta be put in this position you know it's so hard it's like almost like when

someone experiences it with their friends and family not wanting them to go back like imagining that height into the hundreds degree yeah world is like what are you doing what are you

“doing and then putting the world aside for a second because I think this can be really relatable”

because again I went through it like how did you navigate the emotions of feeling so hurt but loving someone so much I think that emotions aren't forever they're temporary they

you know I think when you are a person on a platform or of some type of celebrity and fame you are a bit of like a mirror to other people sometimes and they think they're seeing you but really what they're seeing is themselves and so maybe they've gone through something

“and that's why when when a girl stands on her I could never I'm like girl from now this point on”

I could never trust me when I say I just had to get there like I said there's zero was that mine

had to be learned experienced felt process and and really like worked on with real professional intervention before I could make that decision and that was that that's what was really I guess important to me when it came to the documentary and like talking about it I was you know some people really it's very unresolved like are they together are they not and I was like well that that's what it was three years ago and it was unresolved we didn't know what was we were going

to we were committed to working on it and we were committed to figuring it out because when you spend not much time with someone it's not that you want to forgive and forget you almost

“have to remember you have to remember what you come from and the hurt that's been caused to know”

that you don't want to be capable of ever doing that to someone else ever again and I got to experience

that and I did there were close people to me with enough I think discernment to know that people who don't know me should not have a say and what I do with my life but there was people in my close circle who were protective of me of course who were just as hurt and upset about what happened but also just as curious and also just as supportive of the figuring it out because if this was going to end it was going to end amicably it was going to end with clarity and with real

resolution and with respect because that's that's what I deserve you know and if it's going to continue in the words of ester pero I love her it's got to be a new relationship because what was can no longer be anymore and I know that there's a lot of things with like betrayal you know

in relationships I need to have a betrayal trauma in general it's like it'll never be the same again

but maybe that's the point you know it's such a it is such a great point can I ask are you still together girl yes yes okay so can we talk about like one how does it feel right now just like talking about this for the first time I'm happy for you because I remember in the days weeks and like month following when this happened to me when this happens like your your reality is so shattered because like you said you don't trust yourself you don't trust him you're like

what what what just happened I'm really struggling to understand how we got here how did you

“stabilize your reality and what question did you need to start asking yourself that you're”

kind of referring to that got you to the place where you knew you wanted to move forward I think removing myself from the relationship yeah and in a way that was about not just like self preservation obviously like I was distraught and broken in a lot of ways but I think it was more like removing myself from the context of anyone I've ever had to be something to so it was much deeper like what came from this revelation wasn't just like my romantic relationship with this particular person

it's like every romantic relationship I've ever been in every family relationship I've ever had every business girl every business relationship I've ever had how how many dynamics have I been in where this version of myself has been in the driver seat and and really taking the time to evaluate it feel it understand it and then come to a place where then my needs my wants are a lot more clear and then getting to you know what is it called like conscious uncoupling you know like

conscious uncoupling to then be like this is the new baseline is there still alignment and where it is that we see ourselves you know and that was really empowering not just for me I think for the for the both of us but but especially for me like getting to a place where I was like oh no like I'm allowed to change I'm allowed to evolve and I'm allowed to exist in this so much differently and if I'm capable of doing it what actions are you doing that proves that you are

committed to the same thing and that takes time like that doesn't happen in weeks that doesn't even happen in months like this happens with continued effort and experiences and willingness and and it's that commitment to being different on both sides I'd say that really is what unlocks

because I think it it really can't just yes be on the person who was the person who straight like you also like you're saying have to take up accountability to also build I'm not going to hold this over your head I am choosing to move forward like what did rebuilding that trust look like for

“both of you I think you just know I think it's just it's so it is I remember being like okay”

why can't trust my gut because my gut has led me into some funny places right if I'm always going

this off of survival mode so like really I don't think over analyzing it but really being honest with yourself at what part is coming up like I did in individual therapy and family therapy and couples therapy like I do a lot of parts work and it's so helpful for me because it makes me understand that I'm not just this version of myself right now I'm every version and this one and will be many more you know so like that grace that we were talking about before was something that I

felt like I needed to take my time with and so it was just it was just me I was really like learning to give myself the space and empowering myself with the experiences with professional

“intervention especially to be able to to feel good about this decision because like I said I think”

that whole like it will never be the same again like something about that was actually exciting like

oh there can be something new and it's like oh I'm not the same version of myself that I was when I was 19 when you first met me you're not the same person that you were at 22 when I first met you like we are very or 23 very different versions of ourselves today you know and and so I don't know it's just this like earned wisdom I guess you can say that kind of is the guide in that and I think what's so powerful what you're talking about and very relatable is how you're talking about

it's not just you as Becky at this age going through this with your partner it's still like I we talked about the beginning of this is like the younger you watching your dad cheat on your mom and watching your mom with like the boxing glove analogy and being like well why do I got to die like why do I got to write her dad like what if we can have these honest conversations to go back a little bit to your childhood how did you really really have to consciously

work to be like my emotions right now are about my partner in this or are my emotions right now about what my father did to my mother and how I'm going to try to determine it's very evident to me from the from the from the beginning I think at least in this season of my life when when this took place and so yeah I knew I couldn't trust myself in that moment to make any decision it was like it was again very binary and my thinking it was like you're either fuck yes or

absolutely not and it was like I'm gonna end up in the same situation if not here with someone else

“and I need to take this time to figure out why like why what is the why I remember I think it's”

in your documentary you kind of talk about how your dad wasn't like entirely secretive about his infidelity with you and it put you in some really difficult situations like how when you look back at your younger self do you think those moments impacted you as a little girl yeah it of course it impacts you I think it definitely leaves an impression of like oh so that just happens and like younger me teenage me out working my dad being a better husband being a better father

really standing on my I could never it's different when you end up in your own situations you know

and like I said it wasn't just this particular relationship it was like every relationship I had ever been in was a dynamic of me hoping that things would be different and masking this like subconscious ness of passiveness around this to stay or to leave is anyone's choice to make you know for themselves and I made my choice and I made it from parts of me that I like I said really worked on and earned to feel good about that decision but I also can see all the other sides now you know

and it's it's really a relief to be able to talk about it because I know there's so many people who don't know me fans who are very supportive and very loving you know who who saw me kind of going through this from an outside lens not knowing the details not knowing everything that actually happened not knowing that what you see is not always what it is and and I feel like for them to know

everything into consideration it's not that it was important to me from validation but it was important for me in the sense of standing up for myself you know and I also just to like reiterate what

“you're saying I think it's so I can even feel it from you I'm also happy you're talking about it”

because I can imagine even if you don't give a shit about what the internet says or whatever like it is a little bit of an attack on your character when you're calling you weaker whatever and you're like there's so much that you don't owe people to tell them the amount of work you were doing behind the

scenes but what I what I assume is like this is one of the most amazing parts of your life

now that you've worked through it and this is someone you genuinely love and so to not be able to like feel fully like you can celebrate it because there has been this stigma like I hope this now allows you to just like release that and know that like there shouldn't be judgment around this and you shouldn't have had to explain this but now that you do I can imagine there are so many women listening being like okay like how many of us have stayed and it did work out and that's

beautiful and if you didn't that's beautiful for you but we can't judge anyone situation right yeah without really knowing it's interesting you say I appreciate all of that I will say

going back to like the peace that I feel I don't think it's that I was waiting at all for anybody

“I think it was more just feeling like I wanted to catch people to speed on my time instead of on”

other people's time like going back to the pressure cooker like I also was in hiding like we go to the grocery store together we you know like we have good times together we are closest friends and family you know know what it is and and that's really all that matters to me but I think but it's that peace you know the difference between secrecy and privacy was unclear to me at a young age growing up in the industry with everything and anything and I think anybody who grew up

on the internet like I got to discover that 14 years old making covers on YouTube so I thought like what I eat for breakfast everybody should know when I take a shit on the toilet hey y'all yes and I'm doing it sit and on the toilet you know like all that era of like real time posting like I don't know it's my relationship with it is so different and has definitely in in a more evolved way matured that feels right size to the version of me that I am today which is I don't have it all figured out

I am absolutely not perfect but do I feel empowered yes because empowerment as a woman isn't being perfect it's living in your truth and standing in your truth and owning that there is a spectrum in a ray of experiences and emotions and opportunities that are going to be taking place in this lifetime and if I'm not fully present for it that's where I'm really cutting myself short and so to be fully present in this moment with you talking about what it's taken to get here you know

from the beginning up until this point is yeah it feels really good and feels really liberating it's

it's kind of what's been inspiring everything I've been working on so it's amazing because you can

see how also passionate you are about this current era I guess essentially you're in yeah can you see yourself getting married can I see absolutely girl yeah yeah I would love to I'm like re for both of me why not I'm supposed to be every year why not I love it I've seen there is actually really cute TikTok trend about this woman who is sharing that and I thought it was adorable but yeah I guess it's at each other own you know I think something that's so incredible about you

is like your so positive and I think that when people are faced with really difficult situations in their life not this specifically but she's like everything we're talking about there's kind of a

“choice you have to make it's either going to define you or you are going to take it and you're”

going to grow from it how have you managed to reframe challenges in your life and be so positive can I just say this I can say the same about you no I actually think like PTG post-traumatic growth is a choice and I do think that there is a shift in mentality that happened for me where it was like I don't want to be a victim of anything I want to be a survivor of things and also we deserve so much more than just to survive life but to actually thrive in it and that is also available to us too

and so I can change my mind today and that's okay and I can you know embrace different versions of myself that thought they knew what was best and not shame them or judge them and same for future versions of myself like I can build her up and I can be her greatest champion because I know she's

ourselves and we just got to keep going but constantly of course with connecting with ourselves understanding like what is it actually going to take of me what is it going to cost me so I say yes to something I'm also saying no to something else and if I'm saying no to something that actually means more to me like I should take time to understand that you know um and so with everything that's been taking place with my growth now being kind of the the source of

inspiration um the phoenix that I feel that I am rising from the ashes of of so much that I had to overcome in my younger years I just feel like I know it sounds funny and we talk about being

a bad bitch but like man like it feels really good to know like I've always she's always been there

this isn't like a new era this isn't like this is just an expansion of who I am you know like I'm just evolving and I think it's so inspiring for people listening because like I can assure everyone that you and I have both sat in moments in our life where it has felt like the lowest and it has felt so horrible and the positive you can tell yourself when you are going through the toughest times is knowing all of this is going to make you stronger and then you will sit here one day like

Becky G being like girl I feel like a bad bitch I feel confident it's like because the amount of things that try to chip away at your confidence and yourself a steam if you do not become the victim of those circumstances and you actually use it as power and strength you end up just being like

“oh I am unstoppable as cornies it sounds like I think for women it's important to hear because it”

is such a fucking hard ride that all of us in our own journeys have to ride but when you start to kind of reshift that mentality it doesn't happen overnight but at some point you're like am I going to just keep getting fucking knocked down and be like this is so depressing this person did this to me I hate that or you can actually change your entire life if you just reframe the way you look at things and it is a lot easier said than done my advice would be to feel it like shit is still

shit you could put perfume on it you could put a bow on it you could put sprinkles on it but dazzle it it's still shit let the shit be shit it's a shitty situation like give yourself permission to feel it because once you can allow yourself emotions or energy emotion so let it go through

you let the shit be shit be shit and remember you're always deep down inside you are that

“page like you really are and she's just got it like we forget like I think we live in such a”

hustle culture where it's like we're like proud to be like I'm burned out like oh my god I haven't slept like don't be proud of that mama like rest recover like prioritize like you're you're well being like these are things that like of course I had to learn but like I definitely hold so much grace for the past versions of myself that had led me to this version because I'm just like damn like we really are out here functioning thinking that like it's just gonna move on and it's like this

two-show pass is something that I've lived by for sure but I think that you know life will keep meeting you with the same lessons until you actually listen and learn it and you you can think oh you know different job or different person or different environment like I move my life across the world you will continue to attract the same things if you don't level up your frequency and nurture yourself and put yourself first. Girl yeah we all need a thought yeah I want to also talk

about how that kind of becomes then applicable to the industry you're in with regard to women it's no secret that the world is set up to make us feel like there's only space for one woman in the room

“and I think in your specific situation the media constantly tries to pit you and other artists”

against each other how have you navigated throughout your career. I think we are realizing that

I always say Huntas always mask together we are so much more and I've been blessed that in my career

I've been able to lead with that mentality and there were situations growing up in this industry whether it was in the English market or in the Spanish market would not which now I'm just like I'm spanglish speaking I know English knows Spanish I just am who I am but specifically in the earlier

and in the industry systems and it was interesting going into like Spanish music because it was the most empowered I ever felt as a young woman in my artistry but it was the most macho world that I could be involved in and there was very few of us at the time and it was like an iconic like few of us you know that we're doing it like in the mainstream way and I look back at it and it's like the fact that radio or playlisting had the audacity to be like we can only have one female

in rotation and I'm like so you're going to say that to me Carol G not the Natasha Anita like who are all global superstars in their own right today but was Carol G from Colombia Anita from Brazil you know begging you coming from LA Nadina Thasha coming from you know the Dominican Republic

“like that's what we're that's what we were dealing with we were dealing with being on you know”

radio show um radio shows like festivals and stuff and you know your toe to toe like it was so cool to be a part I to me my Spanish and it was really great because there was a lot of synergy with where we wanted to come together but you know we're toe to toe with our boys like on the charts and we're like hi you know we're all gang gang and hanging out and they're just a supportive of us but we're looking at their shows like well they've got 20 dancers and crazy scaffolding

and amazing lighting programming and I'm here with four dancers in my DJ who's my cousin who's

been with me since day one and we are very limited because what we're getting compared to what our male counterparts are getting looks very different and instead of being like why don't we get

“what they get it was like all right we're going to work together so we're going to get the same”

makeup artists I'm going to get the early shifts you'll get the leadership or swap swap skis on the next show and I'll get her flights and you book her hotel and then you know Angie right Angie Angie was our girl Angie she's that best love her and she shout out she has the best shout out Angie Mark so Angie would come with us and she'd be glamour and all the girls

and we'd all be like pitching in and it'd be like we all look amazing we all have the beat that we

wanted we all have like the the styling and the everything because we were working together behind the scenes and I don't think people really know that that that type of like teamwork was already being practiced backstage and it was this like iron sharpens iron like it's not personal it's not me versus you it's us versus the system and damn it was so powerful like we made history together all the female collaborations that I've ever put together have done incredible

things like history making numbers and that brings me so much pride because it's so much more than a hit song like hit songs happen every single fucking day I saw something bigger the amount of time somebody would tell me if you think it's such a hit why would you share it with somebody else like why do you want to do this with them and because it's them and I meet and us together is we which is massive like I needed to see that as a little girl so I don't know I guess for

me it's not really like how do we prove to other people that we're deserving and we're the no we know we're deserving we know we're worthy y'all better catch up or get out the way and how

“incredible because no I I don't think a lot of us knew that story I think it's pretty again rare”

because the system is set up for women to feel so competitive with each other the fact that you for women look to each other and you were like let's all go in on this together to basically support help further all of our careers that is such a testament to an exact example of how we actually can all further put a bunch of us up the hill instead of one person and that's just how I move like and I and I hope it doesn't inspire more people you know I do think that it's unfortunate

that we are still having the one seat at the table conversation but like look around other tables are being built and you can build your own and it doesn't have to be what it was it can be something new go by to like that radical change in your mind like you can change your mind you know you can you have

the power to do so amazing can we talk about your new music yes you have a new single marathon

and you look so good in this music video I was mesmerized I'm like we really what did you think I need to know it's so like I was literally this is me I'm sitting at my kitchen table when I was watching I was like this the outfits the glam the styling the dancers the whole thing I'm like

about it like how did this come together how did this song come together what does it mean to you

“it was just like this divine alignment I don't know how I was to explain it other than that like”

it was just this like taking my power back and when I did marathon I was like this just really encompasses exactly where I am exactly where I am and exactly where my audiences because the alignment of what's happening with shower and marathon like a decade and plus and I have you know the conversation saying this is my middle school song my favorite my freshman year this is my there I was like technically mine too we all grew up together we all have been out here pushing

forward like doing what we do doing the best that we can and the fact that there's this synergy of just like and we're gonna keep going it's just I don't know it feels so special well and it is such it's such a good song where you're like I like wanted like get ready to this when I'm going out with my girlfriends I want to listen to like when I'm alone in the car and I need a little like confidence like it has all of those things that you want in a song but it

it's also so clearly your style like it's it's just so right and I'm so happy for you like it's

such an it's really incredible like I'm so much I'm so happy what went into the writing process

yeah so I would say the whole process from like beginning to end including like music video and even like playing it for fans before it's actual release was like so interesting and how like there was just a lot of things that were just like oh this meant to be oh this is meant to be can you feel when you have a story I really do think I know this there has been moments where I'm like you know I don't think you really know like you don't really know

what's gonna happen I have been moments where I'm like oh this feels so good this feels so right I don't even really care what happens after this yeah it's just so right like this is just oh it feels great um and to get to that in my artistry at this phase in my career having been through so much it's like so beautiful and such a blessing to be able to feel that and know that that's possible but from beginning to finish it was like it was just a good time like everything that I've made

in this season is like even if we're crying we're crying in the club girl like we are you know

“like it's a vibe it's it's meant to bring joy and that was important to me because everything”

that is happening right now like around us is not like there is not giving joy like it's not not giving joy it's been giving pressure it's been giving hate it's been giving so much negativity and to be in a position of privilege as an artist earned privilege to get into a space where I feel safe enough to lean into my individuality my empowerment my like just this liberation I was like I need to put this into a song so that I can micro dose it to my fans so that if they are

going through something like they listen to this song they know they can shake their ass and they deserve to shake their ass like they deserve this moment right now for themselves and Marathon is like that's like you gotta have that hype girl you gotta be your own biggest hype girl before we go in your documentary you said Becky G came to save Rebecca what relationship do you feel like Becky G and Rebecca have today oh man I did say that I would say that look I have the

have been blessed to collaborate with so many amazing artists in in my career but I feel like this

is my greatest collaboration yet me with myself yeah it's been beautiful to know that like Becky G the boss the person who says it how it is who goes on stage and doesn't second guess herself she's very much real and Rebecca who is this more vulnerable more passionate more intimate more sensual side of myself is also a star in what I've been doing lately so it's just

“like yeah I'd say they're like the best collaborators now yeah I think it is such a beautiful”

message to anyone watching of like your circumstances growing up don't need to define you but you can use them as your greatest strengths and now the fact that you make music for people and like even you saying like I do this for my fans I want them if you're having a bad day you can listen to my music like you're still doing what you did at a young age but now in the capacity like you said

where it is like genuinely something you want to do you don't have to do it and that's incredible and

I'm so much I'm a fan I'm truly like so inspired by you and like I can't thank you enough for your time and for sharing so much about your life no I can I can say the same the feeling is absolutely mutual it's funny one thing I did think about before coming into this is what I admire most about

we want to keep things light as a feather today like let's just talk about the fit girl like

let's just talk about your outfit that's totally fine and if we want to go as deep as the ocean

“like I'm right here with you let's talk therapy let's go there and I think that that that is”

something that obviously for someone in my position is is just such a blessing because ultimately

anybody who's listening to this like we're all just human beings we're all looking for

“quality connection in life and there is no difference between me you and whoever the”

house listening to this in their car at home with their home girls or all alone like we're just

we deserve yeah we deserve that no this is the girl talk we needed thank you thank you so much for coming and call that is so much.