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Happy Wednesday, everybody. We're about to get into a great episode. We got Lisa Rina on today's podcast,

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episode for everybody today. Hopefully Serena, so pumped. Sad, it wasn't in person. It was supposed to be in person. But the snow really screwed everything up. So she had to call in virtually.

And still got some great stuff from her. As always, a good 45 minutes, at least it

is what we needed. But it was supposed to be in person, which is unfortunate, obviously. I don't know. Just like dying to meet her and hang out with her. I know. I don't really thought we would have to like a powwow. But like why do I just think she'd be like, look at us and be like, you guys are like, my daughters. Yeah. And I feel like, oh, Amelia Delilah. Yeah. We're full of like film TikToks dancing with her. Like the whole thing. Yeah.

Unfortunately, you don't get to happen. But still great episode. Yeah. We do not have an episode on Friday. We are headed to the beach. Yeah. I do want to have one more vacate. I do want to have one more thing about Lisa Rina because very much in the news the last day. She allegedly got what she thinks is drugged at the abbey at the premiere party for traders. This, I'm just wanted to clarify because the news came out before, I'm not sorry. The news came out after we interviewed her.

“So we didn't get to ask about that. No, because I know it was important to say because I know”

people are probably really curious about what exactly happened there because that story was being posted everywhere. Tuesday night, but we smoked her earlier on Tuesday. So that no, I'm Monday. What day is it? It's Tuesday on Monday. Yes. We, that story came out Monday night. We smoked her earlier on Monday. Yes. And yeah, we didn't get a chance to ask her about it. But it's a, it's a crazy story. Um, but yeah, that came out after our interview. So didn't get to talk about that. But yeah, this is

our last episode of the week. Yes. We won't have an episode Friday. And then we'll be back on Monday. And then Charlotte show is Tuesday night. So we're headed to Charlotte on Monday after we record our episode. And we announced that we have Molly and Sally from Southern charm joining us. And whether whatever which way you feel, you know, you're going to get some good shit on stage from these two,

which is always going to be entertaining. Yeah. And we're going to be, you know, having it. We're

going to have so much fun. So they're going to be a blast. And it's going to just be some good old gossip on that stage. Hell yeah. So if you haven't gotten tickets yet, you know, the tickets are on sale. And then we're just hitting the, you know, back on the ground, hitting the ground and after that, we're back on the road and got a lot of fun shows planned after that. We'll be announcing more

“guests and very excited about the guests for this like of this tour. I think we got some really”

good ones from really fun ones. So they're going to be great shows. So check out the tickets. They're on sale, hump on line. How are we feeling? I'm good. I'm just, I'm ready to get the hell out of here. You know, it's, um, I know how I much I hyped up being excited for the snow. But it's like, it's like a one day thing. It's like, you know, you're so excited for the snow when it's gorgeous. It's like, we, you woke up. I actually saw a Sarah Jessica Parker talking about how she, she like Andy called

her. I don't watch her happens live. She was like, couldn't sleep. I was up at like 15. I just wanted to see like how much snow. Like that's the excitement. Yeah. And then the next day when you're like slipping into giant puddles of sludge on the street, not as fun. I will say, New York City did a pretty, like, pretty clear, pretty fast. I think I'm looking like it's for as much as much snow as we got. Like, I sent some pictures to my mom. She was like, oh my god, doesn't even look like it snowed that much. I was like,

I know we got a foot and a half. And they cleared a lot really quickly. But I feel like something about this snow is different because the storm we got like last month was way worse like after math. Because it was so cold. Yeah. It was so cold for so long. And I, you know, that,

from her soul. Like that was like, that was like, oh, big storm here at Combs. And then you handle it.

“And then you're like, oh, we fucked it up last time. So let's make sure we don't do it this time.”

It feels like they, they definitely, uh, I was shocked. Like, even walking around Monday, like, after the storm had, like, after it stopped. And I was pretty impressed with how things were cleared up. But, um, there was just, it was magical walking through some of the, some of the New York parks, and all the snow was coming in. Yeah. So many snowmen. Everybody was out here making a snow, I saw some ginormous snowmen. Yeah. They were putting in the work. They really,

some pretty big snowmen were out there. Um, but, now that, that now that I've enjoyed the one day, it's like, okay. Yeah. I'm ready to go on vacation. Yeah. We're, we're going to have a nice time

where we're excited to do that. No, why how you doing over there? Great. Great. But just checking

anything, not the New York fort. I'm trying to think in the last day that we saw yesterday. No. Okay. Good. Just checking in, Rhea. I know you're excited for vacation. Yeah. I mean, we're going to be on vacation together. A couple's trip. We had a great time last year, so we're running it back. Yeah. And, you know, we're just going to be swimming, dipping our toes. Yeah. We'll see how I feel. Because, you know, you're getting a spray tan tonight, and I am not.

And, um, we discussed with you. You told me, you are being, you are being fair warning. Um, and, I just don't have it in me. Like, you know, when you just, I just don't have it. I 100 percent get what you're saying, because partially, I don't have it in me. Yeah. I really, don't want to get bare ass naked and get a spray tan in the cold. I tried on my bathing suit last thing. I looked in the mirror. I jumped. I said, ah, holy shit. I was scared of myself. You know,

and I'm probably being hard on myself, like usual. Yeah. But I just thought, you know what, just go get, you're like, I'm translucent. I just was like, you could see everything, you know, what I mean. Yeah. And I felt that way. I got a couple new dresses. I was really excited for. And I tried them on last night. And I was like, I, I, I, I, I know. I'm like, I know I'm just pale. And I don't actually hate these dresses. But I, my god, I'm have to save them for,

towards the end of the week. Because I need a little bit before. But these dresses on. Well, you know, you're ending up like, not in a good spot when you start going down, like, the path of, like, should I get lipo on my arms, which is, which is the path I went down last night. Yeah. I tried on my bathing suits, tried on the dresses. And you just, it's just like a downward spiral of, like, you're in the dead of the winter. Yeah. The winter uglies are hitting you. You haven't seen

“the sunset sunset September. And then you go down a rabbit hole of, should I get lipo on my arms?”

Um, woke up today and said, no, Maria, we're going to love, we're going to love our arms. You know, hey, I'm glad you came to that conclusion, but I was supporting you. I was texting you last time. You were texting about it. I was supporting you with whatever conclusion you came to. I know. If you were like, look, I actually really think that this is going to, this is going to make me happy. I said, go for it. That's, you know, it's, it's something that it's like free.

It's just of my personal life thought about this. And it's something that I know you have, if it's something that just like popped out of nowhere and all the sudden, like, without, like, it was something that I haven't heard before. And you're like, you know what, I'm doing this. I mean, well, well, well, well, so you're all. But I know it's something that I became a teen. This is something I've thought about. And everybody has those things about themselves, right? They just like think about.

And you sometimes love and then sometimes you hate. And I, and I go back and forth on this. We're like, sometimes I'm like, I love my arms. I love myself. I love this. I'm going to own it all. And then I go down a path of in the middle of the winter. I'm like, oh, my God, get it, get it out of me. I do it with my hip dips. Like, I have pretty prominent hip dips. And there's really not much you can do for it, besides like legitimate surgery. Like, like, like, like, like, it's not an easy procedure. It's like,

really going underneath. Like, they take the fat, they take the fat and put it in, put it in, which is just,

like, wait, a crazy thing. We can take the fat out of my arms and put it into your hips. How be amazing.

What's it with you for? Wow. Wow. Well, do a fat transfer. That would be amazing. That would be amazing. Because I just have this stuff, like, listen, I love the definition that I get to see in my arms from, like, all the, the strength training that I do. Yeah. I lift multiple times a week. And I fucking love it. And I love feeling social. Yeah. I really do. Like, I find it to be so empowering. And then obviously, you just have those things that you can love. But at some points, you get down.

And I just have this stubbornness in my arms that I've just been this way for. It's just, it's just how I built. But now we can, we can take from my arms and put it into your hips. Easy solution.

“I feel the same way because, like, I think my legs, like, I've never felt, I've never felt stronger,”

which is great. But in building up those muscles, it becomes more prominent. Like, it's, like,

you know, things to do, things to do to help your hipters. Like, there's really nothing. Like, you can't, like, you can't work out to build fat in that area. You know? And then the muscle doesn't just, like, magically, cheer in that spot. Isn't it crazy, though, the things you notice on yourself? Like, no one else would notice. Like, no, it's crazy. I don't know to say. And you, let me tell you something, just because of the one person, like, we live in this

really, like, the one person that you hold on to. It's the one common that you hold on to. And you think about for the rest of your life. Like, I wore a long sweater dress one time to a curses party

that hugged like my hips. I got one comment that I look like a frog. And I said, I'll never forget that.

And that's so fucked up. Yeah, it just lives with you forever. And this is why this is just going back to the stupid men on the internet because I know. Like, that's like, one, you know, like, you know, I don't want to bring it up. But it's like, oh, I'm really so fat all the time. You know, obviously that's what you know. And then that's why a couple of weeks ago I went on that whole rant where it's just like, leave me alone. Like, fluctuate, like, goodness gracious.

And like, why do we have to make these comments? Because it's like, when you get everyone calling you fucking, giant norm ass. And now it sticks with you. And here's the thing is you know you're not, which is what you have to deal with in the fact that it's like, these options are

available to do. But what breaks my heart is when I see people who are doing it so clearly because

“of outside noise. And that's what you like, which is that's what you have to deal with. Because that's”

where you have to come with to come to terms. Because if you, if you come to the term, like, come to terms of the fact that like, this is actually something I really want to do. I don't care whether other people say it's going to make me feel better when I look at myself. And not like, I'm doing this because it'll silence people who are saying they think my arms look too big. Absolutely. Because no matter what people will say something, yeah. And I have gotten so much

better, like with not caring what people say, like in the last couple of years, like just, I would say within the last two years, like so, so, so much better at that. But my arms has just been

a thing my whole, like, something I've always thought about. But also with all the shits of what we do.

And we talk about this. Like, yeah, you know, not to get into a deeper discussion. But it is a very real discussion. Do I deal with body dysmorphia? Yes. Yeah, you do. I do. But I'm working on it. Yeah. And I say that lovingly. Yeah, you do. No, no. I know that you say lovingly because it's something that we talk about off camera. Yeah. But I am working on it. And you know, and all that good stuff,

“which sometimes we just have to work on, yeah, these things. That's why today, I'm saying, like,”

I'm working on it. It's like waking my waking up and going, you know what, last night I went down, a rabbit hole woke up. Yeah. And saying, you know what? I love, I love these things. It's so fun to go down the rabbit hole. Then you just come back up. Yeah. And then I came back up today. And I come back up for air. Exactly. Sometimes you could trap down there for a little bit. Yeah. You got to come back up and you're like, okay. I've had that's the case with a lot of things.

Yes. You know, get trapped. You got to remember. Come back up for air. Yeah. It's important. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. Let's get into, you know what? It was nice. We had like a series discussion there that was actually kind of lighthearted. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Because we have to laugh about these things. Or else. Yeah. Or else it gets too serious. And it's like, you know, we're not, and it's all very, it is to be taken seriously. It is because it is a major thing that

“plagues women nonstop. And especially right now, because I think we're back in this era of like,”

really skinny forward. Like every, you know, it's, it's very prominent again. It feels like. So it is important to discuss. It is important to discuss, but also we can, we can laugh with you. Yeah. And make each other feel better. Yep. All right. We're lending me your arms. Yes. And you know what? Give me some juicy juicy. Yeah. I'm going to juice your hips up with my arms. That's a hole. Just a hilarious visual. I wasn't walking down the beach. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

Oh shit. All right. Let's get into the rest of the show. Like we mentioned, we do have a great interview with Lisa Rina. We also have a pop corner. And we're going to be talking about the Metcala announced its theme for this year. Lily Collins cast as Audrey Hepburn, Phoebe Dynavar cast in Beach Read and Harry Styles will be performing and hosting Saturday Night Live March 14. So let's get into it. We are so excited to have our hands on the Pepsi pre biotic soda. It is so delicious. It

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You guys haven't tried it yet. You got to try it. Pepsi pre biotic cola is available now. So go try it today. Mechaoleteam was announced and it is called fashion is art. Does it almost make you think? And I don't I don't know if it's because Lisa ran his on this podcast. And now I'm just like in that mindset. But when I saw this, I was like fashion is art, baby. You're like I was like the kneaded like does I feel like it almost need a little baby at the end. Fashion is art honey. You know, just

totally with babes. It's like the theme dress code is fashion is art honey. Yeah, I'm with you. I feel like that's exactly how it should be said. They only they should have wrote that in the graphics. We should have wrote it in our graphics. Yep. But this theme very straightforward from yeah. Yeah, it is. I think it feels back, you know, feels very campy once again. Like we had that before where people really go all out. I think we're going to have some crazy crazy things on this

carpet because fashion is you're going to have really, really detailed pieces of artwork. And I to me that can be anything from super, super extravagant, really crazy out of the box stuff to just like beautiful, beautiful delicate pieces or like so just like intricate beating. Like something that just has like a a bodice that, you know, you're going to hear about somebody who's has a has a corset bodice with a beating or a stitching that took a million hours to make and a million beads were

hand sewn into it and all these things and it'll be stunning. Yeah, I feel like this is the most open to interpretation that you can get with a mech aliphine because because art is open. Yeah,

“art is truly your own interpretation of whatever the fuck you want it to be. And that's what we're”

going to get here. I bet we're going to get some, and here's the thing, this is the theme. Yeah,

better go extra. I don't want to see a simple lot. I don't want to see a simple black dress. Haley Bieber. Yeah. If you show up in a simple black dress, I'm going to be pissed. I feel like the most she would do is some crazy like beating or something do it to it. I and like you said with the with the bodice, like yeah, it's really like sculpted, you know, look at like a statue with some sort. Really interesting shapes, like I feel like you're

really play with the shape and not just have like a very traditional silhouette, maybe do like a little bit of a different silhouette. No, it feels like this theme maybe came a little bit later, then you know, the theme has been out for a while. The theme is like costume. Yes, the costume costume art costume. Yeah, that's like the real life. Because we did talk about this. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm how we did. It's the full name dress code fashion is art.

Sorry. Fashion is art honey. That's the dress code. That's the dress code here. And it went to save myself. They've been working on this for quite some time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

“yeah, absolutely. Because I think the, um, I don't know what the whole, I forget what the whole”

official name of the, of the, of the exhibit is. But definitely something around costume. Definitely, because it was like, oh, we're going to get some funky stuff. Fashion is art makes a lot of sense. Yep, absolutely. Very excited about this. Moving on, we got some casting news. So, sorry, Ariana Grande, Lily Collins has stepped in for the role of Audrey Hepburn for breakfast at Tiffany's. Yeah, I totally see it. I mean, like, this is like such a person that's been made forever. It's such a

good cast. Yeah. I really do want to know if Ariana Grande was in the talks about this. Like, I know that there was a lot of conversation about her kind of going for the role. I, maybe I just missed it. I didn't really see any of this. Did Ariana say she wanted to play Audrey Hepburn? People thought that she was dressing like Audrey Hepburn and trying to get the role. Okay, remember like it was like, oh, she's putting in this higher call Audrey Hepburn. Yeah, yeah,

she's like, she's inside. Well, a lot I remember now. Like, a lot of carpet she was walking out.

“People were like, it's giving Audrey Hepburn. I got you. Yeah. So, that's why I'm saying I wonder if”

if she was even in talks, where that was just an internet thing. It could have been. I think people would have loved to see that, too. But you can go crazy with this. And of course, they could do something out of the box. But it's just like, if you're going to cast somebody as Audrey Hepburn, I think Lily Collins has probably had the most comparisons her entire career all the time. It's it's, I feel like even when I see photos of her from Emily and Paris or paparazzi photos

with her pictures of her when she was young. And everybody always comments like, oh my god,

she looks just like Audrey Hepburn. Yeah, that is a common theme. So, I feel like this fits

sense to me and that like not only are the the looks there, but just there, they're like all around aura is there too. I agree. And then on top of that, you were talking about that. Yeah, I have not read Beatrice. Yes, you have an Emily Henry book that is being adapted into a movie. Yes,

“and Phoebe Dyneworth got the the lead. Yeah, I'm so excited for this. I think she is”

perfect for this role. I know so far we are we're knocking out of the park. I think for Emily Henry adaptations for castings. So, people we met meet on vacation was was great. And the casting, especially her was so perfect. And I think this also makes so much sense. I really, really love this. I think she's going to crush it. Kind of like a perfectly perfect person who I envision. I think casting, I'm going to space on I'm going to space on his name. So forgive me. But I'm going to

her her partner and crime here in this like is I think a little bit harder to cast because right now they they've crushed the female castings. Gus. Gus. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Gus. I think Gus could be a little trickier. The brooding literary neighbor. Yeah, anytime like you get kind of like that shy guy, I find it to be like, who's who's really going to nail the shy guy look because there's so many

“guys in Hollywood that are just so goddamn handsome and you're like you're not shy. But I think”

they'll find someone great for this too. But Phoebe's a perfect casting. So I'm going to say over that. And tune in on Thursday for our final review of the last letter. Yeah, the same page book club that'll be coming on there. And we do a casting of the last letters. So if you're listening and you want to take our casting recommendations. Yep, tune in on Thursday. And then last topic, just excitement here. Harry Styles will be hosting and performing for Saturday night

live on March 14. Now I'm thinking to myself, we get in another single before this. Pull albums out by then. No. It is March 13th. Isn't it March 6? March 6. Oh, okay. That sticks you silly. Oh my god. Next week. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I got off last year to my brain. I thought it was the end of March. No. Oh, no, no. I had the ending of March. I had the end of March in my head. That's so fair. So you were thinking, oh, she's going on SNL. Oh, he's got his average. Yes. But

wow, no, first of all, terrible, Harry Styles fan by me openly admitting that. Yeah. But even better

for me now that it's coming way sooner. What a pleasant surprise. In my head, I just been telling myself end of March for some reason. Yeah. Okay. Next week. Quite literally next week. Oh, my god. What a thrill. Yeah. So then he'll be on SNL to to perform his best songs that we all have already heard because then he'll be out. I'm like, he's just going to perform aperture. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I'm going to be trying to speak into existence. You going to that SNL. We can't. We have a show.

We won't be here. Damn. Yes. Believe me. I saw the day and went, I would like this. Oh, yeah. I know. I had this reaction. San Diego. Maybe. You do that. Yeah, off the top of my head. I just, you know, and then the Oscars are the night after that. Yes, they are. So well, listen, come pregame Harry Styles SNL with us at our San Diego show because it's going to be a freaking fun. Well, but what will be nice? We can cuddle up in the hotel and watch. Yeah, that'll be fun.

That'll be nice. Yeah. That'll be really nice. Because I do think watching SNL is always fun with

the body. And the last time we watched SNL together was Harry's Harry Styles. Which was really bizarre to go. It's really, it really pulls you in. Which is 2019. We get to get musical guests

“and hosts. I think is so great. And he really is so funny. So he'll crush it. Yes. We know you will”

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we're taking your hot takes your voice mail. So your opinions. Let's get into it. No,

play the first voice mail. Hi, Ria and Fran, in Noah. First of all, please come back to

Atlanta. I love you guys. Love your podcast listen to it religiously. I have a theory and maybe I'm sitting at obvious or maybe I'm a genius. I don't really know. I just haven't said anything with anyone else say this. But I'm like 99% sure that the Alex Cooper, Hannah Montana thing is going to be

“like a fictional episode of Call or Daddy or whatever. And I think that my release virus is going to be”

Hannah Montana. Okay, maybe everyone already knows this and I just didn't get the memo. But I just recently that's going to happen and especially because in the promo it shows Hannah Montana's car pulling up. It shows a boot stopping on the ground that was very remissing of a Hannah Montana vibe, not really a mighty Cyrus vibe. And so I'm usually just going to be kind of like similar to

like an episode of Goody Fallen where she does the interview as Hannah slash Molly Stewart with

Alex Cooper and then does like a performance. And maybe I'm just holding out hope that it's more than a Call or Daddy episode, you know. But that's my opinion and I want to hear your right thoughts on it. But yeah. Bye bye. I like the idea. I don't think that's happening. I like the idea. I like the idea. It's just I don't think they were pretty clear on the Disney press release like what was happening. I also love that you said and then Molly Cyrus will be playing Hannah Montana.

Yeah, you can. So in my life, I would hope Molly Cyrus is just like Hannah Montana. But um,

“no, I got what you're saying. I think that might be fun. Maybe that'll be partial. Like maybe they'll”

do a fun little sketch type thing where she's interviewed has Hannah Montana. But then like maybe

cut in between. But then like the real interview is with Molly Cyrus. Like I can see them doing

some sort of like skip or sketch like that. But I don't think it would be the full thing. I don't think it would be the full thing either. Because then you're not really getting you're not getting Miley Cyrus as a pinning on anything. Yeah, you're not getting like the real behind seeing it. Yeah, you're not getting the real mess up behind the scenes. Um, but I get possible. I could totally see it just a little bit of it. That'll be like a little sketch like a little

skit. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be fun. But I just feel like from what we read in the Disney press release that that's just not, you know, it was like Molly will sit down and it felt pretty detailed. It did, but I feel like there's going to be more than what they just put in the press release because I wouldn't be just like, well, she I think she's definitely singing. Like I think that's, you know, for sure, part of it. I mean, we seen her with the wig on. The wig is the wig is on. We saw the picture.

Thank God. So definitely part of it. And I could see also why that would you would make you think, like, oh, she's being Hannah for most of this event. But I like that. I like that idea that it's probably that maybe they could do like a some sort of sketch. Yeah, something big stand. What's that difference between a skit and a sketch? I think they're interchangeable. Yeah. Can we look up the definition difference of skit and sketch? Because I have been using them interchangeably,

but I do I think they'll waste them interchangeable. I often use interchangeably. Yes. Well, compensation to describe short comedy scenes, sketches and skits have distinct definitions within the comedy industry. Generally, a sketch is considered a more crafted narrative driven scene while a skit is often defined as a single dramatized choke or a more amateur informal performance. Okay. So the same two, so still it sounds like the exact same thing. So it's the same

thing to me. What do you like, what do you think sounds cooler? I feel like sketch like sketch. The from that makes it sound like a sketch is more like planned out. If you're trying to be official, I think you would say, oh, that was a good sketch, but I really like how they're sketched.

“Yeah, like for me, well, let's do a little skit. Yeah. You know, that's how I get skit. Yeah,”

yeah, a little riff. Yeah, let's do a little skit right now. Yeah. That's hard evidence. Yeah, that will be just broken down, brother. Yeah. It's, it's, it's going to be fun to watch regardless, but I, if the whole thing is like dramatized, I'd be very surprised. Yeah, you agree. Hey, Rhea, Frana Noah. This is Brooke from Texas. I'm wondering, I, I'm so jealous of Frana getting to go see Hillary Duffin concert. And I have like this illusion, I guess. Now that I've been like a

Taylor Swift fan in a Jonas Brothers fan, that like Hillary Duffin's going to bring out like a guest on stage when she goes on tour or like have some sort of duet on her new album. And so I was kind of wondering like, who would you guys want Hillary Duff to do a duet with? My millennial heart would love if like she could bury the hat it with say Lindsay Lohan and like do some sort of

but yeah, who would you like to have her sing with? Good question. So the albums out and there's

no, there's no like features or anything. So that's not like, as I'll like as she do a song with somebody that's already on there. But I go anybody in the Disney that that Disney era, perhaps the Cheetah Girls reunite on stage with the reduff. You took the words right out of my damn mouth. As soon as this question was asked, Cheetah Girls hit my brain. Now I love the idea of Lindsay Lohan.

“I think that's so fun. And around that same time in era and like Lindsay Lohan had her album come out,”

but I do think like a Cheetah Girls reunion on stage. Obviously we're thinking Disney right away. I mean, Demi Lovato's going back on tour and I know that they were like they sort of missed each other.

Right? It was like Lizzy McGuire was leaving. It was like that new wave of Disney was coming in,

but maybe if they collabed with some sorts on stage because they're both now touring. That could be fun. Like, oh, you come pop onto one of my shows. I pop onto one of yours. That whole thing. That Demi did put on her story yesterday. Like, what kind of deep cuts and throwbacks you want to see? Which is like, yes, Demi, yes, you know what the people want. I almost like replied to with a list of 15 songs. Okay, didn't because I was like, she could actually like, could actually see this.

Yeah. And then I'd be like, got him embarrassed. But if it was just going into the internet, like, just into the ethernet, I don't know when it was going to see it like,

I have a list. Yeah. Don't forget that lots of land. These aren't deep cuts. They're just throwbacks.

No, no, no. We want to hear. Yeah. Yeah, no. I could, there's some like, oh, here we go again. Like, there's just some ones. And she's got to, she's got to pull back out. I hope she does. But that would be, that would be a good one. I wonder if Hillary will do any sort of surprise like that. I feel like maybe she'll have maybe Joe Joe.

“Yeah. Ooh, that's a good one. Feel like Joe Joe would be fun. Yeah. And Joe Joe did, like, I think”

multiple genres, brothers. Yeah. Spots. Justin McCartney. He's back out there. Did she announce who's opening on her tour? No, what can he search that? I think she may have. But if not, maybe there's a way to tie that in where the, the openers are also sort of that, like, millennial throwback. And there's a question for you. I saw people debating this on TikTok. Yes, hit me. Is Hannah Montana a show for millennial? Was it a show for millennials or for Gen Z? Because Gen Z was on

TikTok being like, back out, like, back off millennials, Hannah Montana was a Gen Z show. Like, this girl won crazy viral being like, it's Gen Z. I don't believe it to be a Gen Z show. But here. I think it's pretty mixed. But here's the question. Now, I was born in 1997. Yeah, you're, you're on the cost. So I'm on the cost. I think I relate more to millennials. But you have some Gen Z call, but I do have some Gen Z. You know, it's mixed. So it is sort of mixed. Yeah.

“But there's no kind of torn. I think it's a mix. I don't think there's no one so ownership there.”

Because I think it was like Hannah Montana was, yeah, I think I was the perfect age for Hannah Montana. Yeah. What? I think Hannah Montana. And a 20 10, I believe? Yeah. What did it come up to? That's 11. It's 11 and it started one. 2006 March. Yeah. So 2011 I was graduating eighth grade. So that was like perfect ending. You know, like, Hannah Montana's ending. I think you've got to look like, like, when it started. So this girl was like, I was seven years old when it started.

And I was like, it's a little young. I think seven, it's a little too young. But she was like, I'm perfect. It was on when I was seven to 12. And I'm like, okay, but that's when it's, I think that's like when it started for you. I was seven. I feel like that was no, no, no, no, well, I get. Yeah. When the age was in 2006, no, I was nine. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, a little, yeah. That's a good start. Yeah. I'm like nine years. Because you were 12. So it's like, that was a good

time, but then you're like aged out. Well, I just think it's kind of in the, no, because it's not because I was obsessed with it. No, I know. But I think it's like 92, like, people that were born between the ages of like 1990, 1952 and like 2002. Well, no, my sister did not watch Hannah Montana. And she was born in 1992. Yeah, but, but I think your sister's like an exception. Like, I know a lot of girls like a little bit older than that, watch him on Tana for sure. But I think like my sister was

just like making fun of me for making all these shows. But I think my age was probably like on the on the older side. I mean, just as I was in sixth grade. And, I mean, and if you're really to get

she's like, it's not like it's not crazy that you're like, oh, well, she is in high school

in the show. I mean, it's so crazy. High school kids don't watch it. She's in high school in the fucking show. So true. That's really a good point. And I'm like, not that they had crazy grown-up

“storylines, but I was like seven feels seven feels a little young. And that's why I'd like to say,”

I was the best age. Yeah. No, I think that a whopping nine. Yeah. I think that's a good age. But I thought that was very interesting. Because it is, I think it plays to both. Like, I think there's a lot of millennial traits, and Miley herself is a millennial. So yeah. But yeah, quite a debate. Why can't we share? I know. Well, why don't people have to, like, we own this. Like, I know. Well, that's why it felt like a little abrasive. She was like, all you millennials, I think this shows for you. It's not,

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coincidence that they've made it this far and all the way through Olympics coverage. I've never

really thought of the traders being a show that had a lot of producer, manipulation or influence, but I don't know. I just find it maybe a little suspicious that they have made it all the way through to the Olympics. And I don't know. I'd love to hear y'all speak on it. And if you think that maybe the producers had a hand and then make it this far, but yeah, thank you, Flavio. Maybe I'm being naive, but I actually don't. I think that they're just too very likeable people.

“Yeah. And that's why they're around for a long time. Like, I honestly don't think it has anything”

like, maybe I am being naive, but I really don't. Like I, it's like in my heart of hearts. I know, but you don't believe they don't need their infiltration on who who's staying around long. I just like, I think there's likable people. Yeah, and I also think that not to like, I don't know. I don't, it's not really giving you anything away, but I don't know. We've just had conversations with people that have been on the show and on and off camera. No one's ever

made us think that there was that much involvement production side. Like in terms of storylines and kippy people on and things like that. Because I think realistically, there's people that they would have wanted to keep for longer, shorter. Like there's the same people, like the people like at home sent that are sent home so early, you know, objectively you would want production and want them to stay later because a lot of them make for great TV or they're great gamers and

things like that. So I don't really think it's staying involved in that. I just think Johnny and Tara were also like gloriously bad at this game. And it's just like they made it to the end because the traders were like, well, they don't suspect us at all. Right. So it's benefits us to keep them around because they just keep throwing names out willy-nilly and they, and no one knows. So true, that's totally an aspect of it. Like they're just not good at the game. So it's easy to hit them around.

They've also made friends really easily with people. Yeah. And obviously everyone in the show, is as likable and has redeemable qualities that they make friends with people and people get attached to them and they end up going home. So that's not the sole reason. But I think there's a lot of layers to it. And I don't think it's production, production, infiltration. I think we're by now a couple of seasons in. We would have heard about some sort of producers

keeping people around so they're anything. And that's never been the conversation with traders.

It's actually quite the opposite. The conversation with traders. I mean, even when marker seer he was like, no, they do a good job of really like keeping you in it. So yeah,

in the open was probably a big factor. We saw Candace definitely protected Johnny. They were so close.

“So that was a big one. And in tandem, I think they were always going to protect each other. So it's like”

Candace's protecting Johnny, which is going to protect Tara. So it's like, I don't know, they were able to make it to the end of that fact. Let's do one more. Hey, Ryan. This is Emma. And my hot take is that the new Vanderpump rolls are actually really good. But they're mistaken. It's kind of been as trying to rebrand Vanderpump rolls instead of doing something like Southern hospitality where they re-tested or they got in a whole new cast and a whole new show. But the VPR is actually really good.

It doesn't have anything that's super heavy. Or you're like, we're watching Summer House and Southern trim right now. Some of the stuff is so heavy. Like the boards and all that crap. And I just want something light and funny. And the new Vanderpump has that. They have people who have nothing to lose. They have awful singing careers. They're trying to kick start. They're not too too cousins. You do only fans together. There's this the dumbest pettiest girl drama. And it's really actually

entertaining to watch. You just have to get into it a little bit. The first couple episodes are

great. But once Angelica gets there, I promise you guys, if you can just get through it,

“it's so good. And I really think you guys should try. Okay. Let me know how you think of it. Bye.”

Maybe I have to jump back into it because I definitely watched maybe the first four or five episodes and then stopped. Just because I was like, ah, I don't, there's been so much good TV on. I'm like, I don't, this is not a priority right now. But maybe it will slip back in. I have seen people saying it's, they love it. Perhaps it's kind of like a weathering height situation where it's like, they could have benefit from just naming it something and believe everything. Because no matter what

keeping Vanderpump rules is going to make comparisons to the old cast and the old drama and everything that happened. And it's like, if they just, I don't know, named it with something with sir. I don't know. Like, like, just like kind of changed it up. Perhaps people, what thing differently have it? Because with the same name, you are always just thinking of the previous cast. Which is why, like, with the valley, yes, there are so many new people on that, too. But now, like,

La La Zona Schwartz is on it. Like, they have such a Vanderpump crossover. But there's no Vanderpump anything in the name that makes you think, like, oh, they be on this show. Which is helpful. Yeah. I agree. I do think it's the comparison factor,

comparison factor that you're always going to have. I just got renewed for a second season. So,

like, they're in. Like, it's, I saw that that was that problem. Now is that that's a lock. So, I caught a couple episodes on the plane. And I was like, what the hell am I walking? Yeah.

“But I think if I caught it, and it wasn't under the name of Vanderpump, I'd be like,”

what the hell am I walking? Yeah, really. There's a different tune. Absolutely. I think if that really is such an important factor, and also now knowing that it did get a second season, does make me want to go back into it a little bit, because I'm like, okay, well, people are clearly liking it enough that it's going to get a second season, and they have confidence that it could be a good show. I felt that way about Southern hospitality. I really didn't like the

first season at all. And it wasn't until later that I was like, hmm, okay, this is getting good. I remember. And now a picked up speed, and they, Bravo was all talking about that, too. They were like, no, it's like, second, third season shows picking up more, which I think is so true. So I get their footing, they get more comfortable being on camera, and then all the realness comes

exactly, which is why like, I never was necessarily shitting on this new iteration in the first place.

Like, I wasn't like, I watched five episodes, and it sucks, and I turned it off, because it's it's a first season on reality show is always hard for them to kind of figure out what the identity is, and it takes a while. So they are going to get the second season, which helps a lot, and we'll see what happens. And yeah, we'll see what happens there. These shows kind of hit their stride in like the third fourth season. Totally. All right, that wraps up the popcorn

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Lisa fucking Rina Lisa. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Hey, listen, I couldn't get to New York, but here we are. We made it work. Yes, we did. We are so excited. We're going to talk about your new memoir. You better believe. I'm going to talk about it. And on top of that, you know that we have to talk about one of our favorite traders of all time for this season. So we are so excited.

We are so excited to talk about traders always. Well, you, the book is out now for everybody

listening. As you can get your copy, listen to it, read it, however you like to consume your

“books. But this is not your first book. And I wonder what brought you to wanting to write another book?”

I do not want to write another book. But my people, my people said, you know what, I think another book would be great for you. And I'm like, now I'm good. I don't need to write another book. And so then they kind of kept calling. And I said, okay, listen, because I don't write my own book. I'm not even going to pretend that I do. I said, let me be three ghost writers, three of them. And if I connect with one, I'll do it. If I don't, I won't do it. So they had me read with three

ghost writers. And I love this dips. Dips just seem to get me. She was a fan, got my voice, and I had the best time writing this book with Dips. So it turned out great. Yeah, I think that's

the most important part, right? Is if you're not going to write it on your own, which love your

honesty, which you always are, and especially in those memoirs, as well, is that you want someone who's going to replicate your voice and what you would sound like. Yeah, and that is the hardest

“thing, I think. And, you know, luckily, Dips knew my career. And that I think is really the most”

important thing. And knew enough about me that they weren't like trying to catch up along the way. They just knew. So it was an enjoyable experience, even though it was very, you know, tough at times and sad and challenging and cathartic. It was, I'm really glad that I got to do Dips. So it was a good experience. And I feel like you can absolutely hear your voice when,

when reading it, I think when when I was reading it, I was like, Oh, this, I would have never

known. It's totally, totally sounds like it's coming, coming right out of your mouth. There's some amazing stories in here from, you know, life before housewives, after housewives, being a mom, your relationship with Harry, and just like so many great life lessons, I think. And at the end of the

“day, just being yourself is such a strong message that I think you have stuck to always no matter”

what, through everything you've been doing. It's like, you got it. And you know, own it, baby, you got to own it and you got to be yourself. And I think that that's been, that's been so great. Was there anything that you maybe were a little hesitant to share in this book? Or are you just, you said, I'm putting it, sharing all the stories? Now, listen, I mean, it's really vulnerable to share a lot of this because, you know, I know it's like hot, hot button items. They're hot,

button items. And to talk about that sort of thing, makes you very vulnerable because you know that it's going to be talked about and printed and put out there. And, you know, I knew that that was going to be the case, but I also knew that, you know, if I was going to write a book, I had to walk the walk and talk the talk and go there. So, there you go. I had to live up to my own words. Exactly. And going back to Fran's point about, you know, just owning it, being yourself,

you know, we've seen that from you for so long. You've been working in the industry for what feels like forever now. Who was Lisa Rina like growing up? Like, did you always have that strong sense of self when you were a kid? No. I mean, I did and I didn't, you know, I grew up in a child. So, as an old child, you get all the attention. And so that was a great moment for me as a child. You know, I really was able to like be myself and free. And, and I think as you get older and as

you become a teenager, I became much more self-conscious. And I was teased a lot in school. And I pulled back a bit. So, by the time I met Harry, I was not the girl that you know today. I was very subdued. I know it's hard to imagine. But I tell a story in the book about us going to, I think we weren't a heady. And, you know, we were like, I was posing for pictures before

to my side. And he's goes, can't you do something like, like, go like this or like do something? Imagine. And so I did. And well, he unleashed, he unleashed the monster. Harry,

hamlin unleashed and said, girl, you, you are amazing. You got to like celebrate yourself.

And so I did. And I have ever since. Yeah, we love it. I feel like, you know, seeing you and Harry's relationship just goes to show how much you guys support each other all the time. And hearing that story just from the beginning of like what he sees in you. And even Harry talking about like, you know, housewives you is not you. Right? Like it's a play on everyone around you, sort of. Yeah, because, you know, when you're on housewives, you are in reaction mode,

most of the time. You are reacting to what is coming at you. And in life, you don't have to live like that most of the time. You know, you don't have things coming at you from all angles. I mean, yes, we deal with a lot of things in life. But I don't feel like that is normal in life, having just things coming at you constantly. And I'm going to show like housewives, it is that. So I think you saw, I think we saw me in kind of a survival mode on housewives. You're just

surviving and trying to get through what is being thrown at you. Yeah, I think, you know, you definitely share some insight to the making of the show, right? Perhaps a little producer involvement and sharing some tidbits here there, which all feels like the truth to us, right? But you rarely

“get somebody to admit that that's how the show works. Is it something that made you a little hesitant”

to share or did you kind of say, you know, I don't really care what they think about me sharing this? I mean, I think the shows have been around long enough to where it's okay to share it. You know, I think the audience is savvy. Now maybe, you know, 15 years ago, I wouldn't have been so honest about it, but I think the audience is really savvy. And they already know what I'm saying. So it's not like I'm speaking out of school. Yeah, that is true. When reality TV first started becoming a huge

thing, I think everyone just bought into it immediately. And we were like, oh my gosh, this all must be happening. But now with social media, we learn so much. There's more people who speak up about what's happening behind the scenes. There's more breaking the fourth wall, which honestly just gets more people involved anyway. And we still eat it up every single time. No, I mean, I don't think it's got to change anything. I think you're like, oh, well, duh. Yeah, of course. I mean, you know,

“that's how that game works. Isn't it funny that even with the more knowledge that we learn”

about reality TV and producer involvement that people still have the same reactions to the way people are portrayed on reality TV? Like it's hard for people to take a step back and go, oh wait, maybe there's some involvement here. Yeah, or just how the whole thing works that maybe you're only seeing a quarter of who somebody really is, not the full picture of a human being, which,

that's why it's always interesting when people get put into these molds, you know, like you're

a villain, you're this, you're that, I mean, it's because you're really only seeing, you know, one part of a person in that season, you know, and so then you decide, okay, they're this, they're that. And, you know, that's always a weird part of that game, I think. And it could still quickly change season after season. And it usually does change season after season. I'm sure you've seen it all over the internet because everyone has been loving seeing you back on TV, loving watching

you on traders, they're obsessed with it. And it's funny because everybody's, and everybody's thought process kind of goes back around. It's like, oh my god, now we miss her. Can she come

“back to Beverly Hills? Like now everybody wants you back on the show. How do you feel about that?”

You know, it is funny to me because I'm no different than I was, you know, I just showed you myself as playing traders rather than being a housewife. And, you know, the irony is that I think

people, my husband says this because I always say, oh my god, I've been so hated for so many years.

He was like, they never hated you. They always loved you. They just had to spin on it. But now, they love you again because they never stopped loving you. So, you know, whatever, I think it's funny. I think that, you know, when I was doing traders, I knew that the audience would get to see me

it had been a little bit since seeing you on TV. What was that decision life for you because I, I saw that you said it took a little bit for you to agree to do traders. It did. I, I was asked in September, and I did not make a decision till February. And they were like, TikTok, TikTok in the decision now. And I just didn't know. I really liked watching it, but I just didn't know if I wanted to do it. You know, I was wanting to watch it. Nothing to do it. So, I talked to

our dear friends, one of their daughters, who is the same age as my girls, and grew up with the girls and, you know, best friends for life, they lived down the street. And I knew she was a massive, massive trader span. So, I called her and I said, "Can I come down?" I just, "Have you tell me why I should do this show?" Because I don't see it. And so I went down, had a glass of wine, and by the time we were done, I called everybody and said, "Okay, I'll do it."

“Honestly, 27-year-old convinced me to do it. And we are so thankful for her because”

Whitney Bacco said, "Me Bacco is the one and the reason why I did traders."

That is amazing. And we are so thankful because, you know, like we mentioned earlier,

you are one of our favorite traders we've ever watched on this show. So, everything was "Hey! I love you! I love you!" And so, the first time we were like, "This is a group of traders that we're rooting for." Because normally, you pull for the faithfuls, you're like, "Oh, we hope they get them." But we were like, "No, this year we're hoping the traders can do it." Which is why it was sad to watch, you know, a kind of crumble the way it did. But I want to know

your initial reaction to being a trader. Did you go into the show wanting to be a trader or faithful? I wanted to be a trader because I thought, "Listen, if you're going to do this show,

“you have to look at the most camera time," right? And it's more fun to be a villain in the”

trend. Like, I knew that that's what I would want to do. But of course, you can't control it. You don't know. I thought it was probably too obvious for them to make me a trader. So, I didn't really expect it. I thought, "Yeah, it could happen but probably not." And then once it did, wow, was I like, "Oh my God! Holy shit! Now I got to do it, you know?" But you're right. It is something where you do, if you're going to be on the show, you want to be on the show.

And that's what we get. And I love that they kept it not gamers right away as traders because that has been a trend we've seen on the show. And then the gamers kind of took each other out fairly early. And you guys were smart because you took the gamers out pretty early. Was that a strategy on your part to be like, "What's some of these people? I'm sure they'd be good. Let's get the

gamers out first." Yeah, I mean, it's moment by moment. And you see how people are behaving and you see

and you learn, like, of course, I didn't know anybody. I didn't know the gamers. I didn't know. I just knew that anybody that one survivor would be about us. And anybody from big brother that one would be about us. And they would be dangerous. And so, the more you kind of watched, you picked off the people that, you know, were the biggest threats. Obviously, if someone said

“your name, they had to go. And I think we did that really well until Rob, you know,”

came for me. I mean, Golden Slash Rob, coming for me. Yeah, listen, there's so much conversation around all of that. We're going to dive into it. Now, initially watching you Rob and Candace get in there. And it's like, "Oh, the girls are gossiping and they're chatting. Everyone's so excited." And then it just went downhill so fast. And people were on to you. The speculation began quickly seemingly so watching. And immediately, as viewers were like, "Oh, no, Lisa,

she's going down. We're about to watch her go down." How did it feel in the castle, you know, before you got banished, did the speculation feel as high as it did watching it?

It never feels as high as watching it, because you don't know it's going on in the other rooms.

You know, you're kind of naively blissful, because you don't really know. Like, I mean, I knew Colton was on to me, but I certainly didn't know, especially that second night that Rob was driving the vote. I had no idea. Because like, people would say to you, "Yeah, yeah, I'm going to go for Natalie, too." When in their minds, they're like, "No, no, I'm actually going for you, Lisa." So, you don't know that. I mean, once Colton was on to me, I knew that that was a problem,

by only one vote, you know, Mark Balis is the one who didn't end the voting for me, and that saved

“me. You know, once that happens, you know that your your days are numbered. And then,”

literally, when Jam Jam yelled my name, it was over. Like, I knew it. I knew that's not how I had killed him, but the conviction he had, as he's screaming my name, as he's being dragged out, I knew I was fucked. So, you know, I didn't fight that hard, because what are you fighting? Like, I'm not going to be a screaming maniac when I absolutely know there's not much I can do. That's why, you know, I don't fight that hard at the table. I mean, there's more that I say that you

don't end up seeing, but that's, you know, how that show goes. But I am so thrilled with everything, I wouldn't change it. You know, yeah, I could have lasted one more episode if they'd gone down the road with Natalie, because Natalie was going that time. And if Robert gone there, I could have gone one more episode, but that's it. I mean, you know, once Jam said,

there was no, there was no stop in it. When it comes to a game like this, it's always the

what ifs? What if I did that? What if I did this? If I would have just fought a little bit more, that's always the way it goes for everybody on the show who loses, right? Besides besides the winner, when it came down to wearing the amulet, you know, were you kind of pissed that it fell on you? Did you think maybe Robert Candace should have wore it? No, because I'm the one that said, I want to wear it. I mean, I knew that I was putting myself in that position, but I also knew that it would

be totally iconic and great television. And it would look better on my dress than anything. And I was

“willing to take that risk because I'm here to make iconic television and you know, that's what I did.”

So yeah, I could have absolutely had Rob wear it or Candace, but that's not who I am. Like, I am there to deliver honey and I did. As you did and Candace, I'm going out screaming your name, live on forever. And what an iconic moment that I kill him with the amulet, he screams my name

that I've kissed him. Like, you kind of can't write a better scene. So I was never sad about it.

I was just like, this is so iconic, like, great. It's so true. And it's honestly what makes this show so great. And we were, we were talking to Mark about this. And because I was kind of saying, you know, you need the gamers, but you also need the traditional reality TV people who just know how to make good reality TV. Like, Mark's so great. He, but Mark wants to play a game. He's like, this is a game unless like make good TV. So you need people who also come in and know how to make

good TV. One of those things is the housewives. And there's been a thing on traders where they've said, you know, housewives don't go after housewives. They, that it's like an unwritten rule. What did you think about that going into the show? I didn't know about it going into the show, actually. I just found out about it as I was there. Because, you know, I've been the housewife for three years. You know, I don't think of myself as a housewife anymore. So I didn't even know about that until

it started kind of a rumble of, those are gamers, there's five gamers in their five housewives.

And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, I'm linked into a group. But I never thought that like,

I had to be loyal to them. I'm a trader. I don't, I'm not loyal to anybody. So I, I didn't, I didn't really, obviously sign up for that because I didn't do it at all. Right. And sometimes, hitching yourself to a group is where you go down. You know, like, if you just, I don't hitch myself to any group. So why would I hitch myself to a group here on traders? Do you know what I mean? They, like, other housewives wanted that. But that's on them. They can do that.

If they want, but during it, voted for a housewife, I voted for a housewife. I killed a housewife and plain sight, which was so fun. I mean, it's a game. Come on. If you can't, if you can't go there, like, I just don't, I don't, I don't agree with that. You have to stand by anybody because that's why I've never been mad at Rob. Rob's playing a brilliant game. He's a trader at the end of the day. Yeah, it would have been really fun to come by off and go to the end because I think we could have

“actually. I think we might have been able, at least two of them go to the end. But the truth is,”

it's called traders. And it's a game. So if you are mad about it, we'll then you shouldn't play the game. Yeah, I mean, we totally agree with that standpoint as well. I mean, watching it, obviously, we were rooting for you to stick around. But when we saw Rob, you know, go against you. We're like, he's got to do what he's got to do to stay in this game. And that's how you

ship, but I mean, I was the most fabulous sink in ship ever. Of course. Did you think that?

I know you say, everyone's playing a game. It's so fine. But we've seen Candace kind of talk about Rob a little bit. And she certainly seems to have her feelings towards him. And definitely doesn't seem like, doesn't seem like the biggest fan. Did you, like, have you and Candace

“talked about how that went down? Do you think it's like, Candace, Rob was doing what he had to do?”

We have not discussed it because, you know, we go off at different times. And then you go off in your life. And we actually have not discussed it. I obviously have seen, you know, how she

feels and what has gone down. But we, we have not discussed it. I think it's about time to crack

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pre-biotic cola now. It's available now. So go try it today. Can we get a little tease about maybe the reunion on what's to come there? We saw some, you know, social media activity. We saw things go down between you and Colton on the show. Obviously, we were rooting for you. Can you tease a little bit if anything happen there? Yeah, I mean, listen, I, I'm used to how, I'm used to reunions, right? But this kind of reunions different. I walk in and I'm literally in the hot seat next to Andy and

I'm thinking, wait, why am I in the hot seat? I don't even go the whole way. Why am I sitting next to and then I settled down, I was like, all right, whatever. People talk about things that need to be worked out at a reunion, right? It's about moving through stuff. It's about having a moment to be

able to ask somebody a question that you never got to ask, you know, and Colton was my

nemesis throughout. He knows it. I know it. We laughed about it. Whatever. So, I wasn't about to let this moment go by without asking pertinent questions, right? Whatever somebody feels about that, that's their own thing. My job was to ask questions and figure things out and, and I did. I think that's fair. I mean, we saw some of the things that he said in his confessional that all of us raised our eyebrows at as well. So, I think fair play to ask in accordance to the game.

I mean, I'm not talking about personal life. I asked him a question about how he chose to come after me and play this game as a trader. We all saw what he did. We all saw him try to lure me in as, you know, I'll protect you if you protect me. So, I don't think I did anything wrong at that

“reunion. I think that I did everything that you need to do at a reunion. And I just hope that they”

air it because not airing it. I think it'll make everyone really mad. Because, you know, we can't control what they air. Totally. Definitely. And I agree because I do think as viewers, we all have, have those, have those questions too. We've seen you joking about that, you know, Colton has unfollowed you on Instagram. I mean, I don't know that other than somebody actually said, did you know Colton unfollowed you? I said, oh, I must have pissed him off. I mean,

that's all I can say. I don't know, but to unfollow somebody after you just followed him, like recently, I guess I must have done something. Do you still follow him or did you ever follow him? I do. I follow everybody. I follow everybody. Because, you know, I love that cast. I love everybody. So, I think most of us follow each other, not everybody, but I follow everyone. Yes.

being reunited with with Andy in that way. Did you guys talk about it before you sat down at

all? Did you visit you in your dressing room beforehand? Or was it the reunion right there on stage for you guys as well? Listen, I've seen Andy often on, I see him and talked to him quite often. So, I just hadn't been in a reunion situation with him for almost four years, but, you know,

“Andy and I always have, I think, great respect for one another, even if there are times where”

I've pissed him off and he's pissed me off or, you know, whatever. Yeah, I felt like home in a way, and a weird toxic way. We loved watching your videos after each episode, your recaps, your takes, you know, one of the videos specifically you talked about not being phased by Rob's good looks because of Harry Hamlin, which is hilarious, because that has been a big topic of

conversation right now. How did you feel about Derinda basically going on and being like, it was,

it was an honor to be murdered by Rob. Because I didn't this, it doesn't surprise me, no, I saw everybody and how they reacted to Rob. They could not look at him for longer than like one second. So, if you can't look at somebody in the eye and like be with them, there is no way you're going to even be able to figure out, are they a faithful, are they a trader? You don't even care, because you're so like, everyone, male, female, dog, it doesn't matter who or what you are,

everybody was so taken by Rob that I watched it and I was fascinated by it and I went up to Rob the first night because he was kind of aloof and, you know, sitting back and I thought, I want to figure that sky out what's he about because I didn't know him at all. And so I started talking to him right out of the gate. So, I felt comfortable with him before we were even traders because I'd had a conversation with him and kind of kind of got to know each other a little bit. So,

“I think I'm really the only one that was able to, like I don't know if anyone else could have”

sat there and played chess with him and done what I did in that moment where we killed Ron C. You know, I was just, I appreciate his gorgeousness, I appreciate all of it, but I'm able to sit in it and deal with him where most people none of them actually, none of them can. You've been around it. I've been around it a long time. The girls bring their, you know, super gorgeous boyfriends around the girl. Everybody around is gorgeous. So, it doesn't, you know,

it's just like, oh, there's another gorgeous guy. It is, it is true when I think, um, and I'm sure you've been watching it all happen, but it's been pretty funny watching more just really, just not suspect Rob at all. She would really die for him at this point. It seems, and I know you guys have, um, have gotten close and I saw she was celebrating, book launch with you and all these things. Is it something that you guys can laugh at now that, that you poke fun in her little bit

that you're like, man, you really trusted him. Oh, honey, I poke fun at everyone. The ones that can take it are great. The ones that can't, it's a shame. Mora is somebody that can take it, like, no one's business. We laugh so hard. She's one of my favorites. I love her so much. She has a great sense of humor about it all, and totally gets it. And we laugh and make fun of each other constantly. I would say. Yeah, she's got that good old, like that Irish humor, you know, like she can,

she can really take the piss as they, as they say. And she really does. I love seeing that event. It looked like it was so beautiful. And you did have some of your fellow housewives there as, well, what kind of relationships have you tried to, to keep with those girls now that you've been

off the show? You know, it's always hard when you don't work every day with somebody, like all the

different shows, whether it stays where life's Melrose Place. You know, you don't, unfortunately, get to see the people as much as you did when you were working with them. But I really tried to keep my relationships with some of the women on housewives, because we're trauma bonded. You know, we have history together that no one will ever understand. And I truly, you know, I love Teddy Melody Camp. I love Erica Jane. I love Doree Kensley. You know, I feel very close to these

women. And we really try to stay in touch as much as possible. Do you still watch the show at all, or no, have not watched the show since the day I left? Yeah. That's, I think that, yes, when you,

“when, when you leave this world, you either can stay super involved in it, or you have to”

blank it all out. And my way was to mutate all and move forward. And that's what worked for me.

leave it all behind. Yeah. I do want to talk to you kind of like rehab and get it out of your body, you know. Yeah. Yeah. I want to talk about some of your previous acting roles, you know, early on.

One of my favorites was when you're on entourage. It always, it always brings a smile to my

face when I rewatch and I see you on that show. Do you have a favorite, you know, guest spot that you've done? Well, that's one of them. That was such a joy. I loved Veronica Mars. You know, the couple of episodes I did there amazing, like I've really gotten to do some quality. I was fun to do the middle. That was really fun to do community. I've done some great, I've had some great moments. I really have, like, just, I forget some of them. And this one will remind me and be like,

oh my god, that's right. I did that. It is, it's so incredible to watch. And I feel like there's just going to be more and more of those moments now as they come because not only have you taken over traders, but this, the last few years, you are fashion icon, Lisa Rina, you're walking and shows it's couture. It's incredible what you have gotten to do. Have you

“had a sort of pinch me fashion moment in the last couple of years that that you can share with us?”

How about all of them? I mean, every single moment in the past three years has been a pinch me moment

because that, just to now that on my bingo card, you know, I love fashion. I always have,

but to actually like be in it and going to these shows and being dressed by these designers. And then walking in a show, like all of it is so crazy and I just love it. It's so fun because then I also get to have these moments with my daughters and travel together. And all those see a show with a million in it and then I'll also go to my own so that I, you know, I keep my distance with her so that she can have her own time. I go have my own time. So far so good,

so far it works. And I bet you have some amazing outfits sitting in that closet of yours that you're in right now. Well, as I'm sitting in my closet doing this, I mean, I, I've been so fortunate. I mean, this is, this is like everything I bought while I was on housewives, like you spend all your money, like everybody just spends all their money, like trying to dress themselves for housewives. So I got a lot of really good shit from that time, but now it's like, you know, these designers are,

they loan you these guitar outfits because, you know, you would only wear the ones who wouldn't keep them,

“but I think as you know, I, during the 90s, nobody would loan you anything so you bought everything.”

So I have got like such a great archival 90s fashion moments going on. It's crazy. I have some really good stuff. Do your girls just like die to go through it all because I, especially now, it feels like the 90s are so back in terms of fashion that if I were your girls, I'd be like, a mama, where's, where's the, where's the co-closet? Yeah, I mean, you know, it's funny when you're, when it's your own children, they're kind of like, you know, you know, it's my mom's,

I don't know if I want to wear it. Ew, like, ew. And then I'm like, well, but wait a minute. It's literally Tom Ford Gucci 1996. Maybe you want to just think about that for a second and get, get me out of it and just go take a peek at that because it is fucking iconic. So like, get it together. Right. They take a second look and they're like, actually on that note, Mom, I'm stealing it

and probably never returning it. Yeah. I mean, I, I will find shoes and Delilah's house and

boots and bags that I didn't know or sunglasses that make their big on accessories. I can't find those, but you know what they steal from me? This is what really goes, underwear, bras, and socks.

“I literally have to go in, but well, and I think it's cute that they like my underwear that I buy”

in my socks, but they steal them all. And I have to constantly buy new tank tops, new t-shirts, new underwear, and new socks. And that's so funny. That's like an honor, though. You're like, well, I think my sentiments are cute. I guess. I mean, it's so funny because it's just also something you, you always put off buying those items for yourself. So it's like, they're like, oh, this new socks, and underwear. I'll just go take moms. I just go to moms, exactly. So I buy new stuff

all the time, and I finally said to Harry, I said, Harry, do you know what? I'm spending on underwear socks and bras because our children steal them. And he goes, I'm like, what? And the whole down the room. And that was that. So listen, if that's all, it's, I mean, I get it. Yeah, I get a kick out of it. What kind of advice do you give your girls being in the industry? Um, gosh, you know, I try not to give too much advice unless asked.

do? No. But by example, they can see how I go through that world. They can see how Harry goes through

“that world. And that's how they learn the most. And then if there's an issue, and they come to us,”

we can discuss it. And so I think it's by example, I think it's by living the way that we live

that they've really figured out. And of course, we drilled in them that most important thing is kindness.

And, you know, anything else, not okay. Like that's number one. And professionalism and being on time. So, you want to have a long lasting career, you know, all the kindness and professionalism is also important. Yeah. So, they know all of that. And they know that I was literally killed them. It would grab them by the ear if I heard through the great fun that they were being shitty little bitches. Yeah. No more, no more underwear and socks for them. Yeah. I loved, I loved the chapter

in the book where you're talking about them. And I was, I was laughing out loud at the Vanity Fair Matt Damon story. If you're saying, you know, he held this Oscar up to my pregnant belly, she had no choice. She's going to be famous. It's just, it's just, it was part of it.

You acknowledge it. Did you ever think like, did you always kind of think they do something

in the industry? I mean, you never know, but that's the family business. I mean, you know, it's our family business. I, that was not my family business. You know, my mom

“didn't work and my dad was an art director. So, I think that, you know, I'm not surprised”

when you turn out that gorgeous and you're that talented, you know, do something with it that would be a crime. So, they're smart. So true. And that they are absolutely stunning. As we wrap up for the people who have not read the book yet haven't had the honor and privilege like we have, is there anything that you want to tease that you think is just an absolute must for people to get their hands on this? Well, I think that people will be surprised because there's so many different

things that I cover. You know, it is not like a housewife tell all, even though I cover that time in my life. But I think there's so much about, you know, if you're days where a life's fan, you're going to get great tidbits there. If you're a Melrose Place fan, you're going to get great

tidbits there and things that I've never talked about and things that people don't know about me.

So, I think that's great. If you want some relationship stuff, motherhood stuff, hormone replacement, you know, I cover a lot of shit in this book. I really do. So,

“it's a, I think it's a quick read. I think it's a fun read. The best thing about it was Harry”

Reddit in it afternoon and he said, your voice is all over that book that totally came through and I thought that that was a big win that my own husband was like, and he thinks it's just a great book. He loved it. So, I think that I was most worried about him reading it because, you know, it's like a snapshot of our life in the last 36 years or 33 or however long we've been to together, I've lost track. But you know what it mean? He said, you cried a lot during reading it and

it's just a really great moment to have when your husband says, you know what? You did good. You fucking nailed it. So, I mean, it's perfect timing, too. Going along with traders and people just wanting more from you and just craving more from you and you are giving it to them. We really liked albums. This book was supposed to come out in October and they pushed it because I guess from COVID so many titles have been pushed forward. They said, how would you feel about pushing it? I was like,

I don't care and then look at it. It could not have been more perfect. Perfect. I've really couldn't because it's you get such a good insight on you and I loved what you, I love what you shared about your mom. I know us viewers of Beverly Hills got to see so many amazing moments with Louis and she was such a star on the show and hearing you like talk about her through the book is so fantastic because like you said, we got to see little pieces on the show, but really reading your

experience through all that is such gives us so much background information on you know what you were going through after she passed and things that weren't at the forefront of like what was being discussed on the show but you had to deal with it like having that happen and then immediately having to go film and go on these trips it's just it's it's pretty crazy so I think you get some really great insight into into all that that was going on and the last thing I want to say to is about

is about the way you talk about Harry and I think so many women can learn from it is that your you you guys have been married for so long but you still have so much admiration for each other. You

my man that's Harry Hamlin and I I love that because I think that sometimes couples can lose that you can and they can start to devalue with another very quickly and it's the trap that most couples can get into and I think that we just really have to fight against that and and lean into

the area of how much you adore this person and always wanted to cheerlead for them I think that

that if like being a parent almost like that's how you be with your kid right like you would never

“want to devalue them so I think you have to think of that in your relationship because it's so easy”

to be like oh I fucking hate my husband I mean so many my girlfriends are like I hate my husband like no you have to figure that out you can't hate him you have to figure out what you still like about you right yeah and it's it's like you're a person for a reason you should be champion you know like should be a cheerleader for them like all these things like pumping them up that's what you have each other for so I love it I absolutely love it well I'm hoping that that's a

good thing for people to see and go you know what I need to be more supportive of my spouse or

“whatever because that's what I think we're here for totally um Lisa thank you so so much for joining us”

we're so happy we got to talk to you hopefully we do get to do it in person sometime soon because we would love to have you and you are as soon as the weather allows us exactly okay once once we get this reunion hopefully we have even more to talk about but we can all watch the how traders comes out and of course your new book you better believe I'm gonna talk about it is out everywhere now like I said read it listen to it however you consume your books I'm sure you can get it on there

“so Lisa thank you so much thank you girls so nice to meet you and talk to you yes thank you so much Lisa”

all right that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the office thank you so much for watching and listening reminder tour starts next week and we want to see you there we hope it

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