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Hey guys, on today's episode of "Collectionation First"

Leonard Berry and I break down March Madness. Leonard is the athlete YouTube channel manager for on it. We talked all about what on is doing with trading cards. Specifically, hey, we hope the pack of Gonzaga. Got some hits though.

You'll see that in more on the episode. We talked about all the things they're doing with player rights. And you would believe how many sports we talked about that they're doing. And of course, March Madness. Coming up on Sunday.

Brian and I dug into the latest headlines.

“Bam had a Bosio hit 83 points second all time unbelievable.”

When impacted to head to this card, we talked about that. Also talked about a break that I was in. A little surprise. Three big cards. That and more.

A pleasure nation. The years where it gets interesting. Then I go to the next card. The final correct. Three out of the same series, the same set.

Quitting years out of grabs. Three out of 100. What are the odds? The odds of that is a mistake. So I don't even know.

But they probably know about it this head thing too. Let's let's three. Bam out of Ijo scored 83 points. Kind of right to zone head like Bam. Card that was originally created a PSA 10 that damaged.

I PSA and then PSA offered the collector only $20,000 compensation for this error. A little fishy your job as a CEO is to investigate it.

But they tend to never come out.

They just kind of let it go. You don't know what to believe. Welcome to the collector nation podcast here on the collector nation network. Whether you're chasing grails or calling Bluffs, you take you inside the hobby. Hear your host, Ryan Offer and Brian Look.

Alright, this Sunday we have selection Sunday. For me, it's always getting excited. I'm going to fill out my bracket. I'm going to do so good. And I don't know about you, Leonard, it very rarely goes go hell.

That's but look. I got a good luck charm. It's on it. It's Leonard Barry. He is the head of the athlete YouTube channel it on it.

What's up, brother? Hey, good to see you again, Ryan. I appreciate you having me here. I agree. I get so excited to fill out that bracket.

And I want the first one to be perfect, right? I mean, I like do it and I look it over and I'm like, "Hmm, but what are these guys?" And I'm a Clipson fan, we're going to make the tournament for the third year in a row, which is the big news for us. So I'm excited about it from the home team.

Talk to me about, maybe some of the fun stuff y'all are doing with basketball or the product in general at on it. Yeah, I mean, this, as you know, is probably one of the best times to be like a college sport fence. Because you have baseball and softball, really getting into the swing of things, basketball,

everybody looks forward to mortgage madness, college footballs, crazy it sounds ramping up. A can with spring games, like give the opportunity to see your teams out there and can't forget to like wrestling in gymnastics or going into their winter sport championships alongside March Madness. So a lot of fun stuff there, like you said, we kind of covered all.

So we're focusing on Penn State, Ohio State wrestling, is they go for national championships,

you know, gymnastics, you see a large gymnastics, it's always one of the top and, but

“everybody knows, March Madness is what matters, selection centers coming up a few days from”

now. And the basketball product this year, as you've seen and as you don't, it's just so much fun. We got brand new inserts, general admission, hype, there's a lot of great signatures in there. And I just love the opportunity to kind of connect with some of these guys who I see on the

court and who I'm going to be hoping will leave me to a perfect bracket, be able to know that they signed one of my cards that I'm pulling here. So if you didn't know, you need to know you have the best teams and the best players on it, has it all again, and we're going to open some right here, Gonzaga, they used to be the Cinderella team, Leonard, I'm just not buying that anymore.

Dan Hurley has to go on all, we have no Cinderella team to more. No, they're definitely not, I mean, it's kind of crazy to think about the run that Gonzaga has been on, you know, these past 20 years, they just won the WCC championship again this week. They're going to be in fact 12 next year.

I think that's going to be probably the weirdest change, like now you're going to have Gonzaga and what's supposed to be a premium conference. So it's cool to see the Zaggs get the recognition they deserve and I wouldn't be shocked to see them in the final four again this year, especially behind guys like Braden Huffford, Ram, EK, who, you know, appear on the product.

Like you said, some of the best players that we'll see on the court here very soon.

Is that go for a 101 here, and look, here it is, here's how it's going to go.

You send me some comments, we might send you some cards, we'll raffle off something. We'll do something fun with, with the best picks. I'm opening the Gonzaga cards. We're looking for that Braden Huff, Braden Smith. Dale and Warley, high on Grant Foster, you know, to name a few.

This is the value pack. You get 40 cards, 10 cards and each pack, 4 packs. Hey, this does look a premium, my friend. I mean, it just feels premium. All right, here we go.

Right on the top, Braden Smith. It's one of the better players, even ventures. There's another one of the better players, tie on Grant Foster. Come in and know what, I'll see, but looks like, there we go. Is that, oh, they're black out.

Very nice. It's a little black out right there. Yeah, I would call that a velvet shwade.

“Yeah, I'm a marketer, I'm a marketer a Leonard, but that's how it feels to me.”

The texture is very swayed like we got another refractor of some sort of yours. I'm going to shimmer. Oh, yeah.

Well, that's the orange shimmer there, so that's the value box exclusive.

You can't find that orange parallel in a single pack or platinum box. You're only going to get those in your value boxes there. So if you're trying to do the rainbow, you want that orange shimmer, you're going to get it from either opening your own value box or somebody else opened one and you buy it off of them.

And then cap is colors. Yep. That's a nice little base in suit there. And then this guy. Yeah, Grammy K on the Fusion, so that's another pretty common in suit.

There's we have two colors of fusions and then there's also a one to one version. So there'll be one that's like a teen color blue and then there's also that white one. And then there's a premium as well, which is a one to one. Wow. That's only one pack.

I'm like, hey, there's three more here. All right. Let's see what we got. I'm going to pick up the pace. Yep.

Yep. There's some colors. That's nice. Yeah, that's hype.

So that's one of the brand new inserts this year.

That looks gorgeous. Let's see here. Oh, got a aqua. Got that's a teal insert. So people in our TikTok comments will get on me about pulling too many teals.

They don't like to see teals. They don't like to see teals. They don't. Too common of a pair of love. Yeah.

There's little braids with me. I'm liking the color. A lot to color variation here on the table. Shining at me. Daily really?

Nope. Another black out. Nice. That was full nice to the hand. I got admitted.

Nope. Another orange shimmer. We got one pack left, right? Last pack magic. So auto or is there another hit, like there would be obviously any autograph.

Oh, look at there. Okay. That's fresh. That looks cool. There you have it.

And I'll tell you this for a value box. That felt like a lot of value. The number of variations, the black out, the swayed premium. I'm digging it, man. But opening these cards makes me want to collect Gonzaga cards.

Because the cards are cool. Like, I kind of want to get the whatever I didn't get. You know, like, I'm kind of, I'm now curious for the best Gonzaga player cards. So yes, that's the best compliment I can give.

“Well, we appreciate it and I mean, that's what we're all about, you know, connecting fans”

to athletes, you know, three of these collectibles through these cards. Like, that's what we're really all about. It really is more about like the personal connection that you can make with players as you know, being so close to a major university. You can get to know those guys a lot better than you could ever get to know in NFL

team or NBA players. So that's kind of where we come from. That's our background. We think that that's important that shines through in our prax and in everything we do. We really appreciate it, Leonard and hey guys, as it's March Madness here, hopefully

your bracket still intact, depending on when you're listening, if you get to this before a tournament starts on Monday, good luck and look, go check out on it. You can see them at one of your local retailers. We're going to have them at collector station. We're going to be talking about it here on collector nation.

Fantastic product doing great things and only getting better. We really appreciate on it. We really appreciate you. What's up guys? Welcome to collector nation, Brian and Ryan here on a Friday the 13th, 20, 26 of March.

I've the most weird way I've ever said the day, Brian, but I got it out. What's up? Okay stuff. That was your spooky voice. That was my spooky voice.

How's Chicago, my friend? It was 70 degrees on Monday and now it's snowing today. So that is Chicago weather. Yeah, let's say a march, right? Yeah, yeah, march for sure, especially in the future.

The city itself is with the lake, it really doesn't get that warm. So if you get east breeze off the lake, it would be 55 and the suburbs, 15 miles away could be 75. So until the lake warms up in June, then it kind of stabilizes. So it's like a air conditioning.

But we're in the dead.

“We went dead summer, you know, we didn't get spring, I think we're going to get, I think”

it's going back in this weekend, the 60s.

It feels like the real feels like 98 here, I'm not really, but it's hot. It's South Cacolaki as we call it. And it's thinking of being hot, bam out of Ijo, scored 83 points. We record just a little bit ahead of the Friday. So it was last night for us, you know, so bam.

I mean, kind of writes his own head like bam.

“He said he had 49 free throws, something like 40, he was 43, a 49 I believe.”

He had, oh, he made over 40 free throws. And his old high score, well, I think was 41, so he beat his career high score on the free to land. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest, he was playing the Washington, what's the, what's the, the team that travels with the glove, glove trotters and loses every game.

Watch the grand grills. He, they were playing, he was playing the Washington generals. Yeah. I mean, you know, let's see, let's get, but I'd occur if he was playing a much tomato cans, 83 points.

It doesn't happen often. In fact, it's only happened one time ever, more.

“Which is, will Jamalon, what's happening in Luddex world this week, Brian?”

You know, it's kind of interesting is that that BAM is a perfect example of what we talked about you and I talked about last week about how important the collection management and inventory management and being able to search and sort and filter through your collection. I mean, how many BAMs do I have? Yeah, I mean, you're like, I know I have BAMs, but I have no idea where they are.

You just type it in. Here's the cards, tells you what location we're at, box four, row one and you go grab them and you throw them on eBay and last month, I think there's Harry BAM, I think it might have been 2018's Prism, Silver Prism and this month there was like 47 transactions.

So if you were able to get, you know, get yours card out in the first market and get

it on to eBay quickly, you know, you made some money on those. This is what the, hey, we, we preach this and some of you have taken note and done the smart thing download the app, you know, pay for some of your, you know, ultimate buy, you know, spitting a little too much on packs, you can offset that with some quick sales and stuff you don't want, we've tried to lead you to water, but this is a perfect example

because I did this, I did this exact thing, Brian, and we're close to having all of our stuff, organized to get on the X, but being a store, it's on the list and it's happening this week, actually, but I did the exact thing, I went, how many BAMs do we have? Because I knew we had some number once, but I had no idea, it's a perfect example, you're so right, anybody that was smart, it last night went into their little X app and went, all

right, search for BAM, bring it up, hit three, four, five buttons, on eBay, boom, and you catch that wave of probably like 24 or 48 hours, maybe where he, because let's be honest,

I love BAM, I've always respected BAM because he does the hard stuff, rebounds, defense,

he's a great, he's a, I would want him on my team, but it's not a prolific score, typically. So this probably isn't going to, I don't think he's magically going to come a 40 point

“in the night guy, it's a lightning in a bottle, so moving quick, and that's what the”

Lodx app and collection management powers you to do, yeah, I mean, he's a 20 point big game guy, oh yeah, this would be a blip that I would sell, yeah, quick, so how many scans on the average day does Lodx do? Well, out of weekend, we'll do about a million, yeah, a million a weekend, and that's four million, and we'll do about 350,000 a day, so we'll be between like, when it's cold out, when, in the winter time, we'll do 12 million

cards, and then in the summer, it's probably more like nine to 10 million, geez, Louise,

the amount of data being slung around there, so again, everyone listening, if you don't do this, you should be, this is taking the Lodx app, yeah, hit the button, it says scan card, and you scanning any of one of your trading cards Pokemon, football basketball, football, whatever might be, and it puts it into scans and identifies it a high rate, I know this, I've watched it, I watched it grow like a little baby, how accurate it is now, it

identifying that card in the variant and all the fun stuff that's not easy, but looks

trading cards, then believable, I like to bring that back up Ryan, because I think, you know,

we talk about it like every few months, but like, you never know when someone news listening

and I think wrapping your head around, just how many people that is and how many cards that is, yeah, we did 160 million cards last year, God, there's a lot of addicts out there, and the hot, there's a lot of, and I'm one of them, I heard addicts, yes, a lot

“of cards, I never forget the 28,000 Tom Brady's, God, is it 28,000? He came, he came, I forgot”

how many here, 12,000, some are 1000, sorry, 12,000 Tom Brady's, came up to the booth in the national, it's like, guess I'm going to have Tom Brady cards, I have a lot of some, any showed me, I was like, whoa dude, you're like, you're the one crashing our servers, look down dude, yeah exactly, he's he's the data killer, like, you know, they put the limits, like, I'm sure y'all do it too, like, doing the crunching the numbers, the average,

like, based on your fees and stuff, like, day to day, you know, unlimited data, the average

users, two gigabytes, and there's always Ralph, he's using 3,464 gigabytes a day.

There's a map, there was the maze him, 12,000 Tom Brady's, in 9,000 of them, base cards,

“you all the collection was worked, like, almost $800,000, so probably like, one like, for”

a factor, Ricky was like, 715,000, and then the rest are, he bought like out of a pack, I don't know, who knows, you never know, I'm sure they were spread out more than that, Tom has a lot of cards, so let's be honest, he grew up in the mech of, you know, when things got big, when he started, it might have been just kind of rounding up, but then, like, I'm telling how me, total card, he has any played a long time, yeah, dude, you could still be

playing, looks like, so that was going to tee up this next story, mainly because there's a lot of big words and, you know, fishy behavior going on, all right, so there's a little PSA drama when it's, they're not, didn't say that, but a 2004 Japanese Space Fisher's Doxy movie, commemoration, liticular card, that was originally created a PSA 10, got damaged, I PSA during an encapsulation process that reduced it to a PSA 6, and then the, which

PSA 10 sold for around $45,000 in February, by PSA themselves, and then PSA offered the collector only $20,000 in compensation for this error. That sounds like a mystery here, yeah, it sounds like a disease, first of all, not three words I love commemoration, lenticular encapsulation, three of my favorites, especially in a, what's spelling B, yeah, I don't even know it, yeah, anyway, all adds up to a little

fishy, I mean, I just think they got enough going on to, to want to take this on, you know, like, yeah, you've bought two of your competitors, you got away with it, where no one else would have, you're kind of rocking the boat, increase in prices, and it makes sense with supply and demand, and I've already explained my opinion on that, but you kind of got

“a little bit of this negative error blowing about you, why even bring this on?”

Well, I guess we have to ask ourselves, like, where is that, like, who's doing, who is the power to do that, first of all, so if it's a guy running, you know, his little division of the buyback stuff and the guy makes, you know, 80 grand a year, I can see him be motivated to do stuff like this, yeah, I mean, from the top from a multi-billion dollar company, they're not flipping cards for 10 grand, I mean, in 20 years, it's just that, so it could

be, like, more of an inside job that, you know, that net and the team don't know about, but when it gets out there, your job as a CEO is to investigate it and come up with a conclusive, this is what happened, this is how it happened, or this is false, but he's

should come out with something, but they tend to never come out, they just kind of let

confidentiality agreement with said $20,000, I'm sure they did, they didn't work, yeah, I just,

“we need some, they need to donate to charity or something like the PSA, you know,”

feeding the hungry award or something, you know, like, they need some, they need some PR here, they have control, they need like, like some like youth, youth groups and give them some tens and let them have some fun, yeah, they need some influence of marketing, like to seed the market, oh, no, they're not that bad, they're actually really good people, they're actually upgraded my 8 to 10, you know, for no reason, and I gave me more money, like, when you

need some of these things to go the other way, right? Yeah, you got to do it the other way, yeah, yeah, I mean, in other news, one piece cards alone saw PSA grading increases about 700 percent, six months, wow, promos already selling for five figure prices, so I mean, there's no denying the power of them in the secondary market, I don't even know, I mean, I don't know anything about those things, do, yeah, it's, we get asked for, we have a few options in the store,

the collector station here in ESA South Carolina, but we're getting, we get requests, there's a lot of requests for that and magic cards, magic, quite a bit, and it's not surprising that that entails the grading increases 'cause, again, grading is just, it's so much more in the vernacular now, it's like, I'll say this, Brian, every other customer that comes in brings up grading, however you like get this graded or do y'all grade, do y'all send cards off to you, I mean, like,

I don't, I'd probably actually say 75% of every customer that walks in the store brings up grading

“on some level, I mean, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's probably the most, one of the most important”

things in this industry, you know, it's just fun, it was nothing, I mean, it was not even part of the

industry in 1990 on that first, you know, finishing collecting, and also like the magic community,

they don't love their cards graded, and so, and so one piece is more like, is there a game clay with one piece? Yeah, I know there is, but it's magic, not that, the card to anime, sorry, not a card to anime, I know what it's called, the only hate mail from your one piece, I know what it is, I actually appreciate the artwork, pretty nice, it's a little racie, it times, you know, catch a bell over there, foam through packs and said, say, hey,

you know, like, you do that after hours, but other than that, yeah, there's a, if the magic people, they actually want to use them to play the game more than any other game play that I've seen. Yeah, if you saw the cards, you'd understand why, top there to baseball, using a world greatest year style retro design, continuing the nostalgia driven heritage line that appeals to both modern and vintage collectors. I think we talked about it last week, there's just so many

players, you know, and then you go to Bowman draft, you go to Bowman first, that's like,

I mean, it's so hard to make the major leagues, and yeah, I mean, I like collecting baseball cards and I'm like, why, I kind of like collecting it when they become real big leagueers. Yeah, I agree. Have you heard this story? Did we tell you this? Yeah, I heard it. Okay. It's insane. I mean,

“you have to end with this. Like, yeah, so it's, I think it was last Thursday,”

Wednesday or Thursday of last week, and I haven't bought into whatnot in a while. I used to, like, everyone else probably buy it at too many breaks and like, all right, I'm six breaks right now. I'm not sure what you're trying to, I'm gonna, I'm gonna watch, but, you know, yeah, it was fun. So I decided, hey, well, uh, we'll buy in a little bit here, and see, get a little action going. So there was a, it was choice, I believe, prism choice. It's a single pack,

prism 2025 football. So you get a single pack in the box, and they're open in the case. So 12 box case, so 12 total packs being open. It's a heater box. I mean, it's fun. A lot of numbered cards, it's got the, I ever cherry blossom, every like major Nebula is like the big hit.

from Patriots. Good player. Good not, or an exciting backup, let's be honest. And I got Quinn years. Again, showed to promise that in the last year, a little improvement, not sure what's gonna happen with him, but might be starting next year. It's cards, yeah, but decent value because it played a Texas, and I think there is a lot, a fair amount of people think that he might

ultimately be a starter in the league, if not there, some worlds. So I get those two guys, and let's just

say, uh, fell asleep before I could watch the break. It gets late, man. These guys are good. I don't know how these guys do it. They're just going late and offered to go to sleep. And uh, fell asleep had no idea that had those two guys. I'm like, how good or how bad could it be. And you know, if you've done what not in your listening, you know that they don't exactly, they don't send you who you got. Either watch that, or you don't, or you go back and look at the video or seed,

“which is never the right time in moment. You have to watch like 30 minutes to see what you”

actually got. It's dumb, but I guess it's something. So I didn't do that. I just said, whatever comes in the mail will be like Christmas morning. Let's just say, I didn't even forgotten that I didn't even bought into the break. Yeah. So I think I spent like, it's a little under 100 bucks for both, and to get Stevenson and yours, not very exciting. I'm not expecting to make my money back. I'll just say that. That's why you went to bed. Yes. So I went to sleep. So let's start with, I got a

Stevenson card. It was an out of 14. We're talking about as good as you could do. You know, other than like a cherry blossom or something ridiculous, like probably as good as you could do for

him, like $20, $30 card. It gets interesting with when yours. First card that's in the pack was

this one that I'm holding up a silver when yours prism, which is actually I believe like 15 bucks or something, 15, 20 bucks. It's almost got a DM me and say, no, that's $7. Okay, fine. Whatever it is, it's not terrible, but obviously not a didn't make up that $85, $9, whatever the exact number, somewhere in that range, plus tax. The years where it gets interesting. The next card,

“holding this up, you need to be watching. Hopefully, you can see it. We'll zoom in, something like”

that post production. It's an autograph when yours. And it's like a scope. I don't know the exact parallel. It looks like silver scope or something, not the mouthwash. And it was a one out of 100.

Oh, wow. And it was 100 out of 100. It's just like, hey, wow, I got an auto. I know enough to know

that that was probably like $80. Those turns out it's right around $150 or $50 card. Hey, made more than what I spent. Okay, there's still more cards though. Proceed to see card behind that. It's another when yours autograph. In the same case, it's the same card. Oh, like number, I almost hit Jersey number. It's 14. Our excuse be 16. His jersey number is 14. I hit 16 out of 100. The exact same parallel.

What are the chances that you get two autographs? Then I go to the next card. The final card. Three out of the same series. The same set. Queen yours autographs. $350 when yours autographs in the same case. Three out of 100. So 3% of the entire series are set or variations. The exact same card. If you're you only believe this, if you see it.

And I'm holding them up for everybody watching three individual cards. We have 100 of 100. We have 16 out of 100. And we have 50. No, 6060 out of 100. Yeah, you're not too far from cornering the market on those many can move the price. I'm going to get in a few more breaks. Let's see if I can get the other 97. But Brian, anyone listening? What are the odds? And Bella's showing these on the camera with a really bad glare. Yep. She's trying to help though. That's the odds of

that is a mistake. So I don't even know. I've watched a lot of breaks. There's a lot of people

“that watch a lot of breaks. Have you ever seen someone get the same exact card and autograph numbered?”

Not a base autograph that is not numbered and there might be 20, 30,000 of them. Two to the same numbered autographs. Have you ever seen that? I bet you there's one person going maybe at of our millions and millions of people listening. But there probably nobody this

the actual breaking. They were hitting so many cards that were so good.

“And the guy was obviously just so used to the big hitters. He hit the one. He's like, hey,”

good hit, man. All right. Thanks. Thank you. If I'd have been on, I'd have said thank you on the in the caption. You know, written it. Thank you for getting that card. But I went on. Oh, just shh. Okay. So he comes up. All right. Then he hits it like four packs later. And he hits it. And he kind of pauses. But he's had, he's already every card in these packs as a hit. They're all numbered nebulous. So I forgive him that Quinn you were standing out as an auto wasn't really that big

and news compared to the other things he was hitting. But he kind of pauses. I think that's another Quinn yours. Hey, good job, man. I'm like, okay. Cool. That's cool. Double thing. He, it's the like

second to last pack. And he's gone through so many more cards. And I understood. I was like,

I first I was expecting him to do cartwheels. I couldn't believe that he's gotten three. But he's done so many more cards. He got to the third one. And he goes,

“I think we've hit three of those. Like, and he couldn't quite remember. He's gone through”

so many cards. He's like, his buddy, whoever's breaking with him. He's going, is that three of him? And like, and he wasn't looking on the back to see that it was numbered. So he wasn't picking up the fact that they were all three out of a hundred. He was just seeing the auto. And so he picked up on the goes, did we really get three quit? Like, he kind of didn't make a big deal with it. But like, I think if he had looked at the back of each one of those and

and seen that they were all the same set, he would have made a much bigger deal out of it. But it was a little bit of like, oh, God, dude. This is over here. Do you missed it? Yeah. And they got to loot it a bit. You know what about better is if they were all the same number. Like, if it was a hundred, hundred, hundred, hundred, hundred. Like, different ones. Three different ones. That's

“what they're saying. Oh, the same one. Like, to prove that the, to prove that they're actually”

are duplicates out there. Yeah. That would be a scandal. You know, that would have been a lot. Yeah. Are these made by PSA? Sorry. Yeah. Just like, well, let's be honest. He's kind of getting to that point. That's the great stuff. Uh, yeah. So anyway, if you're listening and you've really seen three autos of the same player out of the same set in one case, uh, let us know. But I have to think, even though that's a limited, uh, you know, that that choice is not as many as like hot, like

freaking like blaster boxes or something. I still think there's probably thousands of cases of that, right? Yeah. Yeah. So to get one, three of the one hundred of the same player. Mistake on the main structure again. But the odds, I should go play the lottery. You just did. I just wanted one. I want it. I want it. I want the lottery. I want the trash to take it. The win lottery winner. It look, my fascination with this story and like that is less about like, you know, 100, it's great.

Yeah, 400, 500 dollars for the card is not like, it's, it's cool. Like, yeah, I'm very happy. I didn't lose money on that break. My fascination is more the odds, like thinking through like knowing data and math, you know, to at least on some level going, the, the percentage chance that it's so low. It should be worth more than 500 bucks. It should be, right? That's the point. That's the point. Can we, can someone make this for more? I don't know. I needed that to be like the billion dollar,

you know, $50 billion dollar, uh, jackpot that I've never played. Whatever it is. Yeah, as we're

a much lower, that you got them and the price is, is lower because that's my point, Brian. I sometimes someone should award this spectacular amount of luck that I had with more than when you were a lottery of cards. Yeah. Oh, my book. Oh, thanks, Brian. I'm just filled with all the matters. Yeah, that's all. Brian, you found a words today. I'm good. I'm going to head out to Dallas. It's a little warmer there than Chicago, but that's it. And like I always say, I appreciate being

on here with you and Bella. Thank you. Um, for another great show. We appreciate you, brother. Hey, if you see Brian, look for any ludic stickers, anything. Hopefully he's decked out. They'll give him a pad on the back. Thank him for putting out such a great app. Uh, and for being such a great guy, which he actually is and I appreciate him. And we appreciate you. We know you got options. We hope you make this until hey, do his favor. Tell someone you like, tell someone

you love, tell him about the show, tell him about love X. We would appreciate it. And hey, that's all we do it. We do this to be informative to have fun to give you an outlet for something to listen to about the hobby and Brian. And I thank you, dearly, for tuning in. LUDX, check them out in the app store.

Blake your eyes. Let me tell you a best scan scanning app in the app store. It's only getting

“better. Bigger leases coming. LUDX in the app store and LUDX.com. Hey, we love you. We appreciate you.”

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