Accident or Murder — What Really Happened to Casey Pitzer?

supposed to be the luckiest day of the year. But for a young mom and Ohio, it was a last.

“Casey Pester was born in a tiny rural town in Ohio, and on St. Patrick's Day 13 years ago,”

she put on her new cowboy boots and headed out to the local bars, ready to blow off a little

steam with her girlfriends. But Casey never made it back home, and they only clue to what really

happened to the young mom. But her tail-green cowboy boots found by a retention pond, not far from her body. The investigation into her death left her father cold. I'm here today with Greg Pester, Casey's dad, and Dale Petrie, who is the Pester family advocate. Beyond local news coverage, no one's really delved into this case until now. Our criminally obsessed documentary, dead silence, the Casey Pester investigation is coming out March 6. Let's get into it.

Well, thank you so much for joining me today. The documentary was incredibly powerful, and

“you both speak so eloquently about Casey, and what happened. Greg, your Casey's father,”

tell me what kind of girl she was. My daughter was a very good daughter. She was a very good

kid, never cried, always for a good straight-a student, worked, raised two kids by herself,

by her house by herself, and just everything was working out good for. Tell me about where you live a little bit where you're family heals from. We live there when we can put away a little town out of one region. How long have you lived in Wilmington in that area? 57 years. Oh, so I guess in a small town that you've been in for 57 years, everybody sort of knows everybody, right? I do. It seems that way, yeah, yeah. You run into a lot of people that, you know, and, yeah, Casey, she didn't have

any type of like troubled past or any type of criminal convictions that he rides. She was a responsible person, and it was just another responsible you. I mean, I know she's portrayed as like this stumbling drunk, but the video contradicts that, right? Well, how did you get involved in this case? I heard about Greg's daughter's case, and I reached out to Greg, and he met with me, and he provided me with this, this evidence here, and I started looking at it and it didn't take me

long to realize like this is a big problem. Greg left him and he said, what would you do if this was your daughter there? And I told him, I said, you know, I will treat this like it was mine in child's case, and I have for the last four years, I've treated this like it was mine, and I think that would be, it would be very helpful if people could just jump in this man's shoes and say, what if this was my child, what, what extent would I go to get to the truth? And, you know,

“lawfully get to the truth, and that's why I jumped into this, and that's why I've kept my”

nose to the ground on this, is because I promised them I would treat it like it was my own child's case. Yeah, I mean, you would go to the end of the earth, right? You wouldn't. It's like you have two Greg, you've gone, I would do the same thing as a mom, like, I felt terrible for him because he was telling me the stories about how he would fight him, and how he would challenge it, and how he'd question, and then they kept calling him crazy,

and he was telling me a story about one time where he was creating this big post on social media, and he spent a long, you spent about an hour and a half, an hour and a half typing it up, and then it just disappeared because he deleted, he's got one hand, so, you know, once he told

me that, I was like, you know, he's just basically got one arm tied behind his back trying to

solve this, so I promised to make it use my right hand, it could type a lot faster than the NIS can and can now, so you've turned into his right hand man literally. Like literally his right hand man, we worked together. That's wonderful, Greg. It's so good to have an advocate like that. Now, I just kind of want to jump into it so that our viewers can understand what what occurred. So, can you take me back to St. Patrick's Day 2013 and tell me Daryl and Greg, just,

can, if you could tell me what happened, there was surveillance video of this that she had been out sort of parting with her friends and then what happened after she left the bar? For those of you watching on YouTube right now, you'll see that surveillance footage right here. Well, well, we, while we could see from the, the video is, it appears that she was taking off walking down the road and there's a Walmart surveillance video that captures like a, like a silhouette of a person,

the pier, she's headed towards her home in Savannah. But, you know, when she left the bar, there's some questions of why she left the bar because she just called her ex-boyfriend, but they were in the process of reconciling. And there was an incident called on that outside patio where a pier is maybe a bouncer and Casey had some type of physical altercation. And Casey appeared to be passive from what we can see and she backed up when the, when the bouncer approached her,

she sat down after the, the incident occurred in the video. You can see that after that altercation with the bouncer. She clearly walked out of the bar on her own and away from confrontation. So we're still wondering why she would leave the bar when she just called her boyfriend

on the phone to come pick her up. She's never seen after that surveillance video, is she? She's never,

she's never seen again until until much later. Tell me after the surveillance video, what happens as far as Casey's disappearance? When are the police called into to help find Casey? When do you realize that Casey's not where she's supposed to be? The police were called when her ex-boyfriend Eric Hague shut up the bar and realized that she was missing. Like so, I know they were trying to point to finger at him, but he's still on the call to police.

Her ex-boyfriend Eric Hague did everything he could to try to find her that night. So yeah, ex-boyfriend calls the police, reports her missing and the police, what do they do next? Well, they started like the start of the search and they set off a perimeter around the pond.

How did we get to the pond? No idea how that happened and I think it was just,

it had a perimeter, it had a fence, so it's a good area to point at for them if they want to

“do contain something and we believe that's what happened. The location and layout of this pond is”

really, really important. We'll throw up a photo here. It's really about what was not found at this scene at the pond. The police actually pushed everybody off around the pond and said that it was, they sealed it off and then they just, they said that the area was contaminated, so they didn't even process the pond. No footprints leading into the pond, into that area. Nothing was found that would leave her into that pond and the only evidence that was

connecting KC to the pond was a pair of boots that they said that they found in the pond,

but there's no pictures of these, that this evidence. There's no, in the problem with that is,

when the family received the boots from the police, the boots had no mud on them. And in order to get to that pond, in order to get across that highway into that pond, you had to track across a very deep and soggy muddy ditch. For those of you watching, I would love to show you a picture of KC's boots, but that's the frustrating thing. We don't have photos. We just have to rely on what we're

hearing about them. We do have a recreated image used in the documentary of what the boots

“might have looked like. She had a very unique pair of boots, right? And what did they look like?”

Why were they so unique? They were like a cowboy boot that the girls were wearing at the time. I don't know the name of them, but she just got them. They were brand new, and then girls that had them all and said, "They were shanking him, and you couldn't even shake him off." They said, "We're really hard to get off." Now, she went across that ditch. She went along for boot boots and that ditch. Plus, she had a five foot fence decline with ball bar. Now, she's so drumming.

She's five foot tall. How does she climb at fence and not have her shoes or pants? Not have anything torn or tore up. Now, when she gets across this fence, now, what does she do? Did she stop and take her boots off? Because that's where they found her boots. Her body was clear on the other side of the pond as where they found her body. Was something interesting. Greg, you said that the detective showed you a picture of those boots at

“the time? Right. What did it look like with the boots in the pond when they showed them to you?”

He just took a picture of a boot and said, "Is that the kind she wore?" And I didn't know. So I took it over to my daughter and then she broke out. Wasn't in the grass or wasn't in the monitor? I didn't remember. So, at the time, the detective showed Greg a picture of these boots. And they wanted to connect her to that pond. And that's the only bridge from Casey into that pond where is this picture of these boots? But the picture of the boots is no, they admit to have them,

but they're gone. And the picture is the picture of the boots. There's Justin Calvaryle boots that were supposedly in this pond. There is no picture of that evidence. They have nothing. They won't provide them. But they showed them to him back in 2013. I had to take them

When investigators set up their area for their investigator area, they had to put boards over that

“ditch in order to get across that ditch. So, there would obviously be imprints from a boot and mud”

on the boot if she walked across that ditch. And if you look at the Google Earth image of that pond, there's no way around getting into that pond without crossing that ditch. From the time that she went missing to the time that you got the call that she had been found at this pond. What was that like? I went and got a guy who worked for a state that has a doll, tracking doll. Okay. He brought his doll in. And his doll hit right on her boot, right? So he got across fence. He got her boots. Okay.

Then he ran around the pond where they found her body. And he hit on that. He jumped into water, biting it, showed that there was the body there. Okay. And it took him eight days to get her out this

pond. That was a brand new pond. Nothing in it. No debris. Nothing. You could see the tracks on the

bottom of the pond. Now, you're going to tell me, took eight days to find my daughter in that pond. Well, and then when they did find her, and this was just so disturbing. When I heard this, that she actually had this grass in her hand, she had like a, she was holding onto grass when they found her body. I'll warn you, it's disturbing. I'm going to throw up this picture right now on the screen to you can really see what we're talking about here. And if you're listening,

it's Casey's fish ripping this grass. It really is so upsetting. A circumstance about that is, when Casey was said to fall on this pond, it was on the highway side of that pond. That's where the dogs hit on the on her to boot for boots was on the highway side of the pond. Now, she was found and open watered on the other side of the pond. So my question is, how does she have grass in her hand if she fell in this pond? And how far away is this pond in relation to this small

town from the bar that she had been at the night before and where she was supposedly heading, which was supposed to be home. You'll see a map on the screen here to give you an idea of the proximity. It really is such a small town. Yeah, about a mile. And you know, we feel like she was, it was about a mile. The pond was a mile away from the bar and she was walking towards the

“bina. And I think she was forced off the property. Now, if you look into reports, one of the”

bouncer says that they had to get physical with Casey and prior incidents. But for some reason, none of the detectives ever delved into that and found out these prior incidents where they had to get physical weather. They literally said that they had to physically put her in a car to get her to leave. And what's wild about the video is Mr. Ledge best friend. I'll throw that video on the screen for you all here again. She wasn't interacting in the video with Casey like they were

best friends. They weren't even, didn't even look like they were communicating. So, Casey was supposed to be leaving with this girl. But she was dancing with another girl, came to the bar with another person. And just none of the stories have paid any sense along the whole way. Well, it's also because you're seeing one thing and hearing another, right? Like, she's so drunk, she's staggering. But then you could see that she leaves fluidly

and looks like someone that didn't have that much to drink. She was the very dancing for her half hour. And I don't know if you saw the corners report. But the corner, there was only like a

death intake form that was filled out on her. There was never by any corner, by any

investigative agency. There was never an official corner investigator report. And that is mandatory to state of the aisle and there's suspicious circumstances around the death. And there's still as at one of this day. So, technically, the investigation is incomplete.

“And so, there was no investigative report. It was it, was it labeled as suspicious?”

That's not what did the autopsy say? Yes, it was, if it's labeled as suspicious staff, the investigation from day one, according to the chief at the time, he told the newspaper that it was treated like a criminal investigation since day one. And in the subpoena records, it said, in the subpoena phone records, it says, it says that it was a criminal investigation. Okay. Well, in the autopsy,

it said that she had drowned. Now, was she drowned or did she drown? I guess that's also part of the interpretation. Yeah, was she drowned or did she drown her own? And it says without with alcohol and toxication contributing. But the fact is, for someone to be drinking to have an alcohol test provided to them seven days later, while they've been submerged in water, is not even feasible. I mean, that it's not an accurate test for them to base alcohol and

toxication. Seven days later, when her body was in a pond, it shouldn't even have been used.

Yeah. So Greg, you had someone you knew who had a dog that could track, go out there and pinpoint

“these, where we believe the boots were, where we believe, where we believe Casey was found,”

but why did it take eight days for them to find the body? So eight, it took eight days, but what's, what's wild about that about them taking eight days is, is that there's a picture of a seminar image that they provided to the family. Only one. I had not seen this before, but I'll get it up on the screen for you now. And it shows a body, clearly a human body, it lists the investigators listed a rope and a milk crate in the photo, like they pointed out

it, they labeled it. And that was never mentioned again anywhere in the case of all nowhere.

Just the picture, and it's a seminar, milk crate and rope, never recovered. And so after they found that, that bought that image, on the 18th is when that target hit that claimed happen, the chief detective told the newspaper that they found a target hit. When you say target hit,

“they're, tell me what you're talking about. So the seminar image lists that they're”

literally lists the data at 8.9 feet, and it shows that they were, like, literally it could have got her with a poll from a boat at 8.9 feet away from from the party. And what was wild about that was, they had been counting water rescue. Very renowned water rescue come through, they had their ROV, they went through the pond, they did several laps that didn't find anything. But then just a day or two later, her body just, just, there she is, an open water. Where they, where they went

right over the passage, never could relocate the body after they found picked it up on sonar. Now,

when her body was picked up on sonar, instead of doing the rescue right then and there, the chief detective said that the, uh, to send, send everybody home, and that it was, they were going to shut it down for reasons out of his control, as what he said. Wow, there's just so many questions. So it's understandable why we're still looking at this case, as if it, it almost feels like it was like yesterday that, you know, with the way you're able

to kind of go through this information. Also, can I say that when she went walking towards her house, their girls that come to pick her up had her purse, her phone, and her keys to her house. They had all gotten the car, and they turned the opposite way. designated driver, and he went the eye out the what, and no, and they had her purse and keys and found. That's so awful. This was when she had left the bar when they had all left the bar. They

had all of that in the car and it just, yeah, so he really had no way to communicate with anyone to get them. She was, she wasn't close either from that bar. She would not have been very close,

“was she? Like eight nine miles away. So what I think happened was she was helping her boyfriend”

would come down and pick her up, and it wasn't her boyfriend's founder. It was those two guys. Right. Well, it talked to me about these two men. They admitted they were the last people with Casey the night she died. What do we know about them? I'm going to place some of the footage. We have of these two men here. We know that they failed two polygraphs. Now back in 2013, they failed on the 19th and 20th, they failed the polygraphs. Now one was deceptive, and the other was then

conclusive. But if you go to the video of the polygraph, that polygher for tells him in the ink conclusive tests, like you failed. So he didn't, he didn't act like it was even close to be in a path. I mean, there's a reason why that polygraph test was given to the police department, right, to do the test. They wanted to know whether or not these guys were, we're telling the truth.

Yeah. So what's the polygraph test? So on the 20th, when the second failed as polygraph test,

Willamick then kind of backed off, and they let the Clinton County Sheriff's office get involved and do all the investigation. What is witnesses? And in the Sheriff's office policy, it says to do a follow up investigation. So we think happened. Don't know. We don't understand how the Sheriff's office could get involved after failed polygraph tests. And then not ask a single question. And even to this day,

even after the failed polygraph at last March, the prosecutor even said, he wrote like a big spill out and said that this polygraph is too hard to, it's too much to ignore. This is the same one they use. And FBI investigations. And, you know, he even went to Dave Winter, the investigator report and told him he said, if polygraph were failed, he would expect further investigation.

or whatever happened with these two men, the story that I've heard so far is that they were, they said that they were sort of giving her a ride home that got muddled with going somewhere else and lo and behold, she ends up jumping out of the car. According to their snake, what part of that story jives with what you're talking about? The the Chief to Tech have in the newspaper referred to those two as good Samaritans. Good Samaritans, but he failed to, he failed to, to acknowledge that

they both failed polygraph tests. So they were good Samaritans, why in his words? Because they were

“trying to pick her up and find her and take her home. Was there any relationship before this?”

One of them knew her, met her a couple times he said, and the other one never met her as far,

so he might have seen her around that he said that they never, he referred to KC as that girl and that crazy bitch, his way called her. It were the ever named as a suspect where these men ever named publicly as suspects in the case. Yeah, they were listed as good Samaritans yet they had a failed polygraph test. Yes, yet the the the Chief in the case said it was best criminal investigations since they won. So they were treated like suspects, but they weren't labeled

suspects if that makes any sense. According to reports, KC left the bar on foot and started her long-law come. Two men picked her up, KC only knew one of them. It's also been reported that she jumped out of the car at some point. We don't know why or where that was exactly. For our purposes, just so we understand where like if we looked at the investigative file right now, they were not ever named as people of interest or a suspects, but they were asked to do a polygraph

test when they found out that that they had been in contact with KC, right? Yes. Okay, that's

“that's what I was just trying to kind of get that straight. Yeah, I'd love to talk about a moment”

that I got to watch in the documentary that was just literally was so heartbreaking and that of course is when you go to the memorial to KC and I I think it's near that retention pond. It just really punches you in the gut. It really it really shows how long this struggle has been over the years. Can you tell me what kind of toll this is taken from you? It's hard. Every time I go out there,

I mean, she was from our first born daughter and she was a very good kid and just it's hard.

I mean, you know, if you lose the kid, that's the worst thing they've ratten to repair it. It's basically under these circumstances. And he's expressed to me like his hard time to sleeping and and I can't sleep and it's just been a ongoing thing for the 13 years now. I mean, as far as

“like financially, I would think for you to say dedicated to this course of action to try and get”

to the truth, get some justice for KC. Has it been a burden? Yes, it has been a very heavy burden. Money wise were having trouble with the money. Yeah, we've put a lot of money. I mean, it's got I put a lot of money into it. I bought them in a 30 a few times and we've had some mild success with getting some records, but you know, even the courts have a treat to this fairly. I mean, they seem to get past all the exhibits that we put in front of them and then don't force them to

provide these records. Don't double-check. And so the court deemed that well-mixed and provided all these records in a case. But he hasn't been provided one chain of custody records shown that any of the evidence was handled properly. So it just blows me away that a judge can see the case and think that the records were produced when there is no chain of custody records. And one of the the main thing, these records, they probably still exist somewhere. But in 2013, there was

subpoenas that were issued for seven phone records in the case. But the family's only been provided with caseies fund records. That's it. Phone records would show the GPS, the geo-fencing data,

that would at pinpoint locations at the time. But we've never been provided that.

Is it too late now? You would think that when an investigator puts in an evidence preservation letter to a phone company like Verizon and AT&T that they would store those records permanently. Right. And so those evidence preservation letters were sent to AT&T and Verizon. Oddly, we don't have any records to cooperate with those subpoenas. Well, you know, you bring up the cellular records,

going to learn about in this documentary that are very strange that may have been destroyed.

“In the Ohio Biological Evidence Preservation Laws under section 2933.82, it says that these agencies,”

these government retention agencies are to hold these and store biological evidence such as clothing so that DNA can be taken from clothing or shirt. So when the corners office and date and did the autopsy, they released the clothes, not to the police department, but to the funeral home, who destroyed these clothes because they smelled bad, smell like Pondy said. And they were

untested, never tested, and it was, they were destroyed actively during the investigation. Right.

And which was according to the county prosecutor, who I have recorded, he, the county prosecutor in this case says that that evidence being destroyed was a violation of that, of that law, his evaluation. And also he said that the rate kit that was destroyed, I guess sexual assault examination kit, I guess, sake is what they would call it. So that rate kit was destroyed just six years after her investigation. And there was never any reason given, records were withheld,

regarding that. And it wasn't till like a change of administration till we got new records this showed that her rate kit was destroyed on lawfully. I just want to bring up the discoloration

around her neck. I'm going to put up another incredibly difficult, but incredibly important

“photo. So you can see what we're talking about here. It's just so unnerving. I think these”

beads that normally symbolize a party, carefree, fun, everything that St. Patrick's Day should have been for Casey. But another point within this evidence that seems to be difficult for them to obtain or look at or, you know, I was hearing about like how there were blurry photos from from the all topsy. What did you, you know, you're saying it may be an exumation is is in order to understand what was going on around her neck. Can you explain what that was that they found around her neck

on her body. So in the autopsy report, if you look at the autopsy report, it says it was unremarkable. Like we could clearly see this abnormal, it looked like an abnormal mark. Something that you would

expect an explanation for at least a clinical explanation, but we never got that. The autopsy

“photos that we were provided have only like up and date, and only show Casey's neck cramped down”

like that's where you can't even see the mark. It's like they were trying to hide it at the corner's office. Now, we can see the mark in the on-scene photos when they took pictures of her body on scene. But not one time in the autopsy report, nor any autopsy photos is that mark explained or revealed. And when the first autopsy photo said, I got they blurred her head out. Yeah, they were blacked out in that. Yeah, and I'll take us something else that's really wild is so back in 2013,

Greg requested records from the the date and corners office that performed the autopsy. He was provided a partial of those records. He had receipts. Well, we still, we have the receipts. We have the envelope that they sent to him. So then what we went back up there, Clinton County directed us to go back to date and to get these records. Well, we showed up there to date and they denied him turned him down and got really aggressive with us when we showed up there and they called

the police and had his escort out of the building. What's the police jurisdiction into that decide walk? Yeah, that's a share of softness. Share flipped out the door, it follows it went on. Well, Darrell, your your Greg's Marcie's law advocate is that correct? It's a Marcie's law victim representative that a designated Marcie's law victim representative. Tell me what that means for us that are not no highest, we understand what that means. Okay, so Marcie's law was passing a

Ohio at like a it was such a huge amount of voters passed it under like it's like 80 plus percent of voters voted it in. And what Marcie's law does it gives victims, it gives victims of voice. So right to be heard or right to be treated fairly, right to be treated with dignity. So the counting prosecutor designated Greg as a Marcie's law victim, he acknowledged me as a Marcie's law victim representative, which I have the right to speak for him, I have the right to

advocate for him and to help him in any which way I can. And I'm also his legal power of attorney because he's messing his writing in. And like I said, he's these leverage in my right

this case about the fact that you fought and that you've brought Darrell on to fight with you. What do you think, what do you think she's thinking right now as she looks down on you and she's the kind of work you're doing? I think you smile and down on me and she's got her hand on my shoulder guiding me. Slowly, but she's there, she's there with me all the time. I mean, Greg, I believe that and you know, as she helps you and guides you through this as well,

I mean, I feel like this is going to mean a lot for other families what you're doing. Right. And needs to, and you know, every family should have the same rights to records. Every family should have the same type of investigation thorough. Every family should have access to information and be able to question these investigators when they don't feel like

“things are being done properly. And that's what pits us all what I've developed. I think that”

addresses all that. And, and you know, the one of the biggest problems with Greg's cases with Casey's case is that it's so fragmented. You know, there's all these different agencies that were involved. And you have to do a separate records request for everyone of these agencies. And then they'll point you at the other agency. There should be like a universal project or a file where our county prosecutor had must sign off on that. So somebody has to be held accountable

because with the way they have it set up now, you could never hold anybody accountable. They can

always point to finger at the other agency or it's like point you this way. Right. You don't know which way to go and they give you the run around and what they do, they try to wear you out to

“where you'll just quit pursuing them. Like like said Greg in 2013 fought for years. But then”

eventually he got tired and any and he fizzled out. So I was able to kind of help him like a like tag team wrestler. He just smacked my hand and I joined in because I was I was already really aggravated and directing my attention towards him when I found his daughter's case. I was like, this is the one that'll get them all. This is the one that'll take all of them out. And it'll restore, restore integrity and law enforcement and our community because making things look like

it's not and reframing and that's not the way it's supposed to work. I mean the persistence that relentlessness, I you know I talk about it a lot in these kind of cases where we have not

found the truth yet and our viewers know that the the most important thing to do is to keep

though wearing a saliva right to keep that voice for your loved one there. So people know that this is still going on. Do you think we will get to a place of truth on Casey's case? Do you still have hope? Oh yes, we'll get to we're going to get to the bottom of that one way or the other. Yeah and what we're hoping to do is raise some money so we can get some investigators like independent investigator in bulk. We've seen that there was like a former FBI agents set up like an investigative

site where you can you can reach out to them and and hire them to come do end it and dependent investigations.

“Greg has been openly he's been open about the want to have her exhumed but honestly with the”

evidence that I see and I've went through I don't think that she'll have to be exhumed to get a conviction in this case. I think it's just the matter of getting a neutral a neutral prosecutor I am getting a prosecutor. No, I have an a judge. So look if you if you don't mind I'd like to talk about what what's occurred in 2025. So in April of 2025 Greg was designated the Marci's law victim representative. They released all the evidence polygraphs and everything to him and this

prosecutor, our county prosecutor told us that he was going to get the FBI involved that he was going to get the Worn County Sheriff's Office involved to conduct the last polygraph tests because they did the largest the most recent investigative lead. And so he was trying to say that he was going to hand this case off to them. Well, when it got time to do that instead of giving it to Worn County of the FBI, he gave it to a civil litigation for him out of Columbus and hired

insurance attorneys that were masquerading as special prosecutors. And so they come down June 23rd they were appointed to the case case he's case. There has not been one single question asked

and over six months seven months nothing. And so and then they finally uh with three from the case

a right to confer with the prosecutor but when there's no prosecutor to confer with hitting you

“confer with. Right. What's he supposed to do? Yeah. I mean the the Marci's law it's under article”

one section 10 A of the Ohio Constitution which is then the Ohio victim Bill of Rights. It says that he has the right to confer with the prosecutor. There is no prosecutor that will confer with them. There's a lot of work that needs to be done on this case and um I'm glad to see that Daryl, you can stay with Greg as as you guys navigate this he needs a right hand man like you and uh it gives me a lot of hope for other victims out there and victims families that that deserve um a light

on their cases as well and hopefully this will give them hope by watching this documentary which is so remarkable and beautifully done to give a voice to the voiceless in this case. So I thank you

“so much for sharing your story with me today and I hope everybody watches this documentary and”

I want my viewers out there to to please drop a comment and let Greg know what you're thinking Daryl what you're thinking if you've been through a situation like this or have information

that may help the Casey Pissor story finally come to to the truth you know and bring closer to your

wonderful family yeah and what we would ask is that you know if you could ask your viewers to dive into this with us because we haven't caught everything right there's there's a lot of things out there if if there's a bunch of buys on this case we may learn new things so we didn't know this is the book that I've read Brittany that dive into this okay so it's called the citizens arrest of Clinton County Ohio and it's the true stories of Casey Pissor and Andy Napier

and it tells about our investigation and how what's gone on in the last four years. I would love to share it with our viewers and absolutely we have a lot of very dedicated armchair detectives in internet slew south there that are very talented and how come to

meet with incredible information so 100% like if there's if there's anyone that wants to dive

into the Casey Pissor story and Casey's an investigation this is the time to do it. Yeah and so so this book it should be live on Amazon within the week and we I have an interactive website that has all the exhibits that's also going to be launched within the week and it's it's under we help others dot com or you can find it under the citizens arrest dot com as well. That's that's wonderful to hear thank you so much and thank you for doing the work that you do as

well so I'll end this for now but we'll hear if there's any updates my God like please let us know we certainly want to be a part of you know finding the truth in these cases we don't stop either. Yeah I was looking at your work and you're an incredible person and I wanted to thank you for reaching out to us and thank you so very much thank you for helping all the victims that you've helped break. Wow thank you so much you know it means a lot to me because you know

we go down these rabbit holes as we do right and we never really know where what we're going to

pull out of the rabbit hole and sometimes it's it's something that can make it in their friends and sometimes it it'll just get us one set closer know as my my granny always said you know you just don't know what all the pieces the buzzer are until they get put together. So somebody may have a piece of that puzzle that's going to just finish the picture for us. Yeah right we're clubs we're very club very close. I'm so glad they could join us for this conversation today and be sure to drop a

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