Reunited After 42 Years — Joe Newton Tells All

Oh, they're coming for you, Sharon! I'm so happy!

Hey, what's up? What's up?

“Well, we're here for you, ma'am. We saw this woman Sharon, we'll call her, being arrested. We now know that woman is Deborah Newton,”

who kidnapped her own daughter 43 years ago. That video was weird enough on its own, but the story that unraveled because of it is really a stranger than fiction. When Deborah Newton allegedly kidnapped her own three-year-old daughter back in 1983, her then husband Joe was left

without any answers for 43 years. Can you even imagine? This is a conversation I've been so eager

to have. I'm talking with Joe Newton, who has been reunited with his daughter, who's been missing from his life and the world up until now. If you haven't yet, go back and watch our previous episodes covering this case so you get the full impact of what Joe has to say. And be sure to like and

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kind of cases. Joe Newton, I am so pleased to meet you. I have thought about you and I hope you're doing well. I am. I'm doing well. Great, great. Not right now. And tell me, I mean, yeah, this is a special time. I want to ask you. I want to understand how can you take me through what life was like before you lost Michelle in your life. Can you tell me about a little bit about your marriage and how you and Deborah came together? Actually, we met each other at vocational school.

Started dating when we were. She was 15. I was 16. Actually, we had goals just like everybody else. It was great relationship. I actually asked for the marriage when I was 17. And I kind of got real a bottle from my dad. And he told I was talking about immediately. And I had to explain to him, no, we were finished in high school and stuff. And after that, it was okay a little bit. He still kind of looked at us and said, we're young, but at the same time, we were both working. We had goals.

And we got married to her 17 and 18. We bought our first house at 18. We started off on the right

“foot. I mean, we really did. And as things went along, I think more and anything, we probably”

forgot what we were working for and led to some bad decisions in our life. And the last year of it, we were trying to work those problems out. Of course, I thought anyway. But we had great parents. We had great family. There wasn't any abuse or anything like that in our marriage. All in all, I thought we were probably great parents at one time, but we wasn't a good husband and wife at one time. We kind of lost what we were really working for. I think we were both

good parents. We just lost the husband and wife part of it. As we had some problems in our marriage, and we thought we were working them out, she came to me and asked me about going to take a job in Atlanta. The company that she worked for supposedly was going to open up a new branch. Looking back on it, I guess I was kind of naive and really didn't ask the right questions and stuff. But we agreed that she'd go to Atlanta and start to job. And on the fourth week,

I'd read down there. And at that time, she'd make a decision where we're going to stay or not. And for three weeks, I called every day and she answered and everything. Talk to my daughter. The fourth week came around when I was about to come down. She didn't answer. And I couldn't get her to answer. And unfortunately, because I trusted everything. I didn't have enough information to go looking for her. And Joe, let's let's remind everybody right now, Joe,

you're talking about 1983 when we don't have cell phones. We don't have the internet. Like, we didn't have a lot of anything. Yes, sir. I mean, this was back. That was when, yeah,

little things to change from the time that my daughter left until now. At the time, I still didn't know

“all all knew she went answering. I didn't know if she was in trouble. I didn't know what. All”

I knew that she supposedly left to go down there. So I went to her dad's mom's and asked them if they had heard from her daughter. And her dad asked me what was going on. I said, I'm not real sure. At this point, all I know is that she went down there, Lanna, both to have the job there. That Monday, I went to where she worked in Louis and got to talk to the CEO of just find out she had quit a month ago. So, okay, now I know that. Oh, boy. Yeah, there's something here.

So I asked him a couple more questions. I said, uh, if you don't mind me talking to you a little bit, I know you don't know me and I don't know you, but supposedly you all paid for multiple trips. And he proceeded to tell me he said, we didn't pay for any trips. So at this point now, I know pretty much this portion of it's a lot. I don't know really know what. So at that point, I went back home. I really didn't know what I couldn't do next. And I got a phone call from one of the co-workers

that she worked with. And she told me, she said, your daughter's in a very bad situation. I know the address where she's at and the person she left with. So now I know there's a person involved in this. And I went to her dad and I said, I want to tell you what I know at this point, at this point, I know it's not a company thing. She set this up to leave. I don't know everything, but I know there's a guy involved. So and I didn't know him until they gave me their name. But I had the address

where they were at. So I took Mr. Curry and my sister, we drove to Georgia. And then at 10 was to try to talk to his daughter to do whatever you know, starting it out. But when we got there, we were told not to come back, not to do this. And at that point, when I come back, I didn't have the paperwork I needed to do, get my daughter. So as soon as I come back, I told Mr. Curry, I was

“followed for a divorce and I was going to file for custody. And that's what I did immediately.”

And from there, it was a lot of things that people don't understand. And I didn't need it.

The first thing I had to do was to get her served and that was no easy task to do.

So you went down there immediately. You went down to Atlanta pretty much immediately, as soon as you realized what was happening. Is that right? The fifth week. I was actually down there the fifth week. And Joe, who was with you? Who was with you when you went down there? Were you on your own or were didn't? No, I took my father-in-law at that time and went with me. I didn't want to go around there without him. I told him, you know, you know, it's your daughter. You know, maybe you

talked to her. She wants to divorce, whatever it is. At this time, I'm really not sure what her tent it was or what. But I'd say when I realized that she left for a guy that was 20 years older had money, I don't understand it. And as the investigation at that time and the 80s went on,

a lot of things were told to me. Basically, I would deal with two different people. There was a

person I knew and another person that's another life she led. It was Deborah that you knew that you married and then there was a Deborah that was living a totally different existence. Totally different

“life. Totally different thing. Joe, I've got to, I've got to ask you right here because I think our”

viewers really need to understand the people that watch this interview that care so deeply about your story and care so deeply about Michelle is that there were, there were accusations made by Deborah during her interrogation that it was you that you were the abuser and I know that you just

like that? Anything else going on? Yeah. Yeah. What all happened on? He would hurt me. He would hit me

and hurt me. He would force me but most of all was the threat. And I want to give you an opportunity right now to address what she was accusing that it was you that was the one that she had to get away from. I understand that I went through that 43 years ago. You know, they went through my background and went through everything. There was no physical violence whatsoever from either side.

“That was not the case. I would say this. She wanted out obviously. I think because she was young”

as I got older I started. I think she's manipulated by that's the guy she left with.

I was told a lot of different things when they investigated about the situation that they felt there was a lot more to miss. Joe's talking about the man that supposedly Deborah ran off with when she took Michelle and left Joe 43 years ago. Now this is just the tip of the iceberg. Just so let you know, this story is still developing and as we have more updates that we can share with you, we will. And go back to the records what I said 43 years ago, if they go in and pull

up all that they investigated my allegations and stuff and found nothing to be true.

“I don't have anything there to say to it. You can go back and forth with this all day long. Yes, sir.”

I don't tell anybody that if she was leaving because of me, I would understand that maybe but she left her whole family. She left everybody both sides and there were good people. So you got to look at that and say, you know, there's more to this than she's running away from me. She was running too somebody once she was doing. You know, I don't really care when other people think one way or another. I do care when my daughter thinks that's personal. I care.

You know, everybody else can, you know, have their opinions. I don't give a shit. I know what I've done, what I haven't done. Joe, I want to know, like, I mean, as a parent with two kids myself that are, you know, that my heart, how when you realized that everything had just gone south, that Deborah wasn't telling you the truth. She wasn't where you thought she was.

“Do you remember that feeling of what went through your? I will say throughout the very first,”

you know, there was a lot more anger at her as I got older than anger went to him because I think more and anything she got manipulated by him and the disposition and he's my but at the same token, you know, there were times where I got thinking, well, did she get us this way since she couldn't get out of? She's still alive. You know, under the circumstances which he left, he had to totally control her, which I don't think's good for anybody,

but that seemed to be in what was said to me by the FBI and the police that investigated it,

it was always something on that line that he would be more of a control of her

by leaving the way they left and cutting off all ties, things like that. I said, I know when it very first started and they didn't actually believe that she cut off all of her ties and her pairings of stuff, which I've greatly regret that they got detected, Badger and I'm going after I'm thinking that they know some and they did not. They simply wanted to know what conversation me and her dad had. He told me he said, "Look, I want to do whatever I have to do for my daughter."

I said, "I told him I appreciate that, but that's my daughter on the other side." So we both had an understanding, you know, and again, I don't know why she took the route she took, because her dad would have done anything for, and to his best friends with Frank Haddad in lovel. And anybody in lovel, at that time, would know that lawyer,

custody. No, and that's a great point, Joe. I mean, one thing that I'm hearing is that you are a

“dad, a young dad, who was trying to navigate this legal system, right?”

And it was not a legal system, and even still today, when you get paperwork, it really didn't matter, because when you went somewhere, you had this stigmatism that, especially in the 80s,

I was one of the first dads that filed for custody, I was all the paper art or I went knit,

mostly was a woman going after a man. So it really was a no-win situation, even if I got the paperwork, when you went somewhere, and I would say going to Georgia with Kentucky paperwork was useless when I went down the after I got custody, and they wouldn't honor it, so I came back and got another piece of paper, which was supposed to be honored anywhere, it's a governor's seal. Again, trying to do it the right way. If I look back at that, there were the time I could have

kicked the door down a couple times, even an officer in Georgia told me he said, "You said

I'll arrest you, but you know, you can take your chances in trial." I kind of regret that multiple

“times in my life. So you were right there, Joe? I mean, you were literally right there, right?”

Is that what you're telling me? When I got to governor's seal, I went back down to Georgia. I called CPS in Louisville, and what I wanted to do was to have CPS in Georgia, to pick up water, and when I got to Georgia, and I went to CPS, got them, and I had to go to the judge with him, and the judge would not honor it. He would not pick it, pick the door up. He wouldn't put her in custody, and I still today do not understand it except all the things I could think of.

It's a guy I had enough pool in Georgia, and bound out. He was quite well thinking. It made no sense. I wasn't asking to take my door, or I was asking to put it in Georgia, CPS custody, and he simply wouldn't do it. So that's when I came back and pursued for a felony, and it was a misameter at that time, the law of the changed, and when it changed, I was explained that she would have a grace period up until that day that the law went

in fact. She could have returned Shelly, and it's still been a misdemeanor. She did not. So in all the medical, you went into a felony. That's a simple layman terms. It's what they, so now today that's what are not to honor that, I don't know. You know, that's going to come up in court.

“It tell me, Joe, do you remember that last time that you saw Michelle and Deborah together?”

Yeah, and I thought that she left. Tell me what happened. Tell me what happened. That last moment you saw your daughter. We, like said, thought she was going to set up a apartment in Atlanta, and it's loaded up the, you haul with the stuff out of the apartment, and I told her, well, I'll see you in three weeks or four weeks. It was, you know, three weeks we was calling, and that's the last time I sang my daughter. It's just been a long

road to get to here. I wouldn't wish you don't anybody, anybody. So how did you, for 40 years, 40 years, your family and you held out hope? Her family didn't know anything, either. Her family mistress, you know, when I told her sister, Karen, that if I ever got my daughter back, I would make sure

that she met them. And the first day my daughter told me back to when we found out, she drove

with me to the back, and I made a sure that you got to meet her, mom, souffle, and her family.

her leaving. Again, you might just find some, not say you're just fast what you did, but anyway,

“right, but people could say, well, you left calls me mama, but she didn't just leave me. She left”

everything. She took away from my daughter. All her uncles, all her cousins, on both sides. She literally lived them with really my daughter, what she lost. And at that point, when I felt like she was no longer a good parent, because she put herself in front of my daughter and her daughter. Yeah, and you don't get to just say, well, that's somebody else's fault. No, it's not. It's yours. You made that choice, and I don't care what you made that choice. There's a hundred different ways she could

went and it would have been fine, but she took the wrong one. And I would, I would hopefully out of anything that people would look at it. You know, if you have a problem with your marriage, don't put your kid in the middle of it. I would tell you, we'll say, after I had the FBI involved, I figured I'd have my daughter back a long time ago, but that doesn't work at, well, I do know as time goes on, you get put further further back on it,

especially as old as it is now. I could never think the woman enough that found her,

and I haven't got the opportunity to think her virtually, but, and I may not, but I certainly want to everybody know that I can't, I can't thank her enough for what she did. And the way she found her was due to technology, due to the new technology. You do, as a time goes on, you do, I didn't know if I was looking for somebody that was deceased, but you still have hope, and you still, it was one of my things, I hope, to at least tell her that I didn't abandon her.

You know, I didn't know if she'd be receptive to this meet me or anything,

but I didn't want her to know I never abandoned her. Oh, my goodness. How do you figure out

that she was alive and that she-- We really didn't know. We had no ideals. She was a lot.

“But we kept looking, my sister that me and her kind of, I think after the somewhere”

out which she was turned in 17, the eight, they told me that she had right and not, and I said, well, until that day comes, she's going to have to tell me. Because what's the meet me or not, at that point, I can at least sell her what I, you know, whether it be given it a message or stuff. And all at the time, you're really just wanting to find something to give some type of clothes you're to it. You hope that they're alive. You still look like one of them to be alive,

but, you know, as you could know to your wondering what's her life been like, what did she, you know, go through what, you know, all the things I missed that I can't get back, but at the same talk and all, you really wanted the parent that she had in his life. That she was safe and happy and that she was helping me. That's kind of, that's all you can hope for. Yeah, you just hoped you say it was in a good life. But how did you tell me, Joe, like, this year or this past year,

what events led up to you finding out that she was that Michelle was alive and thriving as a

“human being? No, remember, I get a phone call from my sister and she said, you think Karen,”

which is my ex-sister, would do a DNA swab. I said, well, absolutely. She said, she, she'd do anything to find chili. So we called her up and hadn't talked to her in years. She said, yeah, so my sister had the, they had the US marshals and they come by and got a DNA and took it back with them. Two weeks later, I met work and my sister called me and said, I need you come over to the house, I got a water problem. So I get there and pulling in a drive and she's standing in the doorway and

just balling and I said, oh my God, their house flooded what? You know, so I get up to door and

I don't, you know, she said, I wouldn't tell you because of me and you went down so many

false leads. I knew two weeks ago the day pretty much had her. They wanted a DNA to be positive and I wanted you to know they're going to arrest her at 20 o'clock. They wanted you to know before it because we didn't want you to get bombarded. So they arrest her at 10 o'clock. That's, that's

“when I knew that's, you know, now I know she's, she's definitely alive. I think it's about an hour”

after they had talked to her. She admitted who she was and everything and then they called back said, we know where your daughter's at. And when she got told that she wasn't who she thought she was. I was just amazed that she had called me. We got to face talk to each other that day that night. I had several of my sisters with it on the set of tables. She got to see five of a man

and she was telling she's always wanted a big family. And I started laughing us at the

care for what you wish for because you're stepping in for. You now got a big family.

“You got a huge family. You got a huge old. What was that first talk like? We just, you know, I didn't want”

to go. Still don't want to let go. It was 43 years of, I feel I haven't my three-year-old. Again, and here's this growing woman, man, it was awesome. You're Michelle and the corner there. There was awesome. And she literally drove the next day for where she was at to her house. And so what she gets there, you know, why you know the front pit porch and yeah, it was a very special. And I guess, you know, you get 43 years, you know, it's just overwhelming.

It's still overwhelming, you know. So, but yeah, and next day I got make sure she got to meet

“her or the family. And it came into a better time because thanks given, she got to go meet”

well, she got to meet all of her brothers and sisters. It was that time. So you met part of the nieces and nephews. They were probably a little over 100 of us there at Thanksgiving, but there's probably another 100-chag met, yeah, and hopefully at Easter or something, she'll get to meet

most of them. Oh, God, Joe. That's amazing. She got to meet a lot of, she's got great nieces and nephews

or nieces that are named after. She got to meet some of them. That was kind of neat. I want to ask because Michelle brought it up. And when we talked in an interview, when we first were learning about all of this, she brought up that there was a doll house. Can you tell me about this doll house? We're going to get a picture of it here on screens. You can see the doll house for yourself. We had obviously going coming lawyers. My family was helping my brother and then the sister's

and all, and one brother was five years older than me. He made a doll house to be rafled off it. I didn't know he was still existed, but one of our friends, a neighbor who's in that community actually wanted. And when they sing, it aired, they recognized who it was, and in my brother called me, and he called me up and said, "You know the doll house today, everybody?" And I said, "Yeah." They said, "Well, it's still an existence. The Corbets, when they

wanted, they had passed it down through their kids, their grandkids, and still had it. We're willing to give it back to my daughter. So me and my brother and my son, drove to Florida, took us 28 hours to round three. So we drove straight there. God, it's made it with a certain, a couple. She still had the original paint, original everything on it.

and everything about that. Michelle, you can give him a hug. I can be in the corner there.

You have your hug. You get surround sound to yours yourself. You're still in me. You're killing me. I got literally. I got mama bathed over here crying. I'm over here crying. So I know, I know you do. I mean, the story, I just, I just can't even believe. You said,

“I think it said, you described seeing her as like an angel. Yeah. God, I don't allow, so just”

remember, I mean, too pretty much, isn't I, you. Daddy, go girl. Yeah.

Y'all are so special. Yeah. Well, I think the bulk we weighed in 43 years for themselves.

No, but I wanted to understand like the part, the DNA swab that was taken, that U.S. Marshall's were able to identify from there. What was the tip that the tip-off law enforcement? So what we were told was it was an anonymous tip that came in from Marion County, which is the scene County that my mother was living in, and it was someone who was doing some, like, novice AI playing around

“with like facial recognition and kind of moving things forward, and they came across this case.”

Set is all that we know. I actually just reached out to the detective in Florida again. They left a message, just trying to somehow connect with this person, even just through a phone call. I was told it was a woman. Was it okay? It actually got into facial recognition as a hobby, and she liked it so much that she went out and bought her own computers and stuff, and actually opened us business. And she works looking for criminals and

missing the exploited children. And if she gets a match, she goes to whoever that might be. But

“she's come across the photos that we had sent out 40, some years ago, and actually got a hit”

on our mom, and they were pretty certain at that time that it was art, and that's when they asked for the DNA. She started over to the proper authorities, and they went from there. Again, it's modern technology, and somebody that, to really just enjoyed what she would do, but we really would like to thank her, but I don't know if she likes limelight or that's not doing it for. If she goes forward with an interview at all, and I'll say in touch

with Michelle about this, too, Jo, I would love to, I mean, obviously, this is the, this is our audience. I mean, there aren't shared detectives. The people that watch our show, hear our stories, these are people that are invested in helping. They are literally the core of our people that watch this show, and I'm so grateful that we have so many people out there that want to know the truth.

So she shows up, and wants to talk. That would be amazing. I'm going to take you off again

for a minute, Michelle, that's okay. Off camera. Now that. I couldn't handle a, I couldn't handle hearing her crying without you getting a hug. I want to hug you, Jo. Like, I want a kiss, so I can only imagine what it's like being in that room right now. You are so sweet. I want to ask you a little bit about after that happened, you know, after you were able to digest this information, and I don't know how much you watched. I don't know how much you're dealing with it right now,

but Deborah was put in an interrogation room, and her story went in a totally different direction. Guys, if you haven't seen our episode on the interrogation video, definitely give it a watch. I'll play a bit for you here so you can get an idea of the seriousness of what Deborah said in that interrogation room. Joseph, my husband, and he took pictures of me with two different men, two different

those films, they weren't videos, they weren't like film, kind of old fashion, third, and he would share them and show them to my family. So hearing that, it really puts Joseph's response to these serious accusations in context. Whether or not she ever tells a truth, I don't really don't care at this point. I do care that I don't want to be made out like some kind of monsters. I'm not. I'll take credit for what I did wrong in the marriage, but I thought of that.

That's not going to fly. Even when she left, when I went, I never said anything bad about her or

“a bomber, I think she was a very hardworking person. At that time, I thought she was a great mom,”

but that changed when I really realized, in my daughter, which is in danger, and known as the circumstances which she left. They simply wouldn't get it, and I don't care what she tried to justify it. This was her decision to do what she did. She wasn't abused, and I wouldn't abuse either. Here wouldn't like that. So I wait for court and go through all that, and have her comes out and comes out, but I've got what I wanted, or what I've been looking for.

So we disappointed that she said what she said. I had already heard some of that back at the very beginning, tried to justify it. They investigated me at that time. They found nothing there to be true.

“And I didn't expect it to be any different. I think she was told to say what she said”

40 some years ago, and I think she's held on to that for 40 years. I don't think anybody wants to I think she's looking for a reason. That person over here, it's just part of taking her daughter, taking her away from her, all her family and everything. And I don't care what happened in our

married to. It would never justify it. Never. You can't justify doing what she did by what she's saying.

There's a hundred different ways she could have went, but that was even remotely true. It's simply not true. Like I said, I feel like she was told how to leave. She didn't want

“the fortune. I don't think you wanted anybody in Bob. Do you want to control over?”

I think it was all. And again, I basically said, I'm what I was told when they started investigating. And all that will be in files and stuff. It's been to one day through, you know, not go ahead.

I mean, it's public, you know, if you can go through it, never think so. So hard. I mean, I

men in our culture are immediately looked at as your guilty as the aggressor, right? Yes, you're, you're, I bought that 92. And, and the stuff today is, it isn't any different. You're still considered pretty much automatic. The aggressors. Again, I'm, well, not really don't care what the media thinks one way or another. I really don't care what they think. What my daughter thinks, and I know, not matters. Me. The rest everybody else,

like I need to think about it. I wonder about it. But I would ask them, you know, to really think about what they're saying to go, you know, do you have somebody that didn't lead just me? She left everybody. There's something got to be more there to it. And then that she's just running or worse, she's at. So, but again, you know, that's a we had up in court with it. And I don't know which way all that is going to go.

Well, Joe, you said you take a lie detector test, right? I mean, you were like, I'll do whatever I need to do, a polygraph or whatever I need to do. Yeah, no, my, no, I don't really care about that. I would like if I have to take a polygraph, she'd have taken one too, but it's hoping that we would

daughter back, but she could apologize. She could say she was sorry. She couldn't do that. With that long way right now, still, even after what she did in that interrogation. Here, it would go a long way to me. The other thing, I would

would like to retract what she said, but that is so complicated. It's amazing your story, Joe,

and the way that your family has stayed together to be able to embrace Michelle at this point. Well, we're overwhelmed with her. I mean, she is just as lovely as we could ever expected. I mean, and her cell, she's embraced our family and lets us be part of her life because she didn't have to do that. And it's really, it's been an amazing thing because I was really scared that we wouldn't, she wouldn't have that bond, but that's far, far from being a church.

It was an instant when we see each other. I mean, we just knew. I mean, didn't have to ask, didn't have, we knew. And it's just, right at this moment, my life, outside of the day, she was born. So they were pretty close. Like if it didn't reboot. I guess the one last thing I wanted to ask

“you, Joe, I got a chance to talk to Wayne. You'll remember Wayne broke over. He was the second man”

that Deborah Newton took as a husband. They were together for 10 years. I talked with him in a previous episode, so be sure to check that out. What I think to cover up continues, and I could see that when they arrested her, he was like, oh, they're not here for me. Like, you had that some idea.

He said he always suspected that she was hiding something, but never thought it was this serious.

As a bad, because I have raised, she hits myself. And I told him, it said, you know, the dad always prayed that she had somebody out there that would treat her like a daughter. Because I was telling Charlie when I was raised in the kids a lot of time.

“I would look at, you know, and how would I want my daughter to be treated? And that's how it”

helped me raise them. I wanted them to succeed, to have a childhood, have fun, you know, be a dad. And that's what Wagen was to her, and still live. I can't thank him enough for it. It's a good man. So, you know, when you look at it, when you hear our missing somebody like your daughter or your love one, you hope that there's people out there that, you know, treat them with respect and like the others. And he did that. So, I can't thank him enough for that.

You know, it's like, when you have one kid, you think I can never love anybody as much as I love

that one kid. Like when I have my first kid, it was like, never ever. There's no way I could never

love anybody that much. Again, and then the second one comes along and you're like, oh my God,

“you can, there is no limit to how much you can love. Well, I found it to kids. I think my”

situation is affected me in the way that I love kids a lot more than the adults. I have to say the kids are just kids, you know. So, a lot of times I'd think about Shelley through them and it helped me. So, my stepdaughter, she got to meet her and I said, you got a sister, you need that. So, we've we've tried to meet the ones that in my life and heard it, she's got siblings that are at Iberast and, you know, they just, it's a neat. So, I'd ever tried to do there

comes some other good in different directions and we both had done that. And again, Wang is the best thing I could ask for, you know, for my daughter and not everybody gets that, you know. And Joe, you know what I said to Michelle and our first interview, I said, you're so lucky that your dad, Joe, is so young. And she said, well, he had a heart treat when it was your that said, and he's got a new ticker. But that only do you have a dad that's young. I mean,

you're younger than my brother. Yeah. So, you're young. We're young, Joe. We're young. You got a new,

catching up to do. Yeah, I don't know if we'll catch it up all, but we're going to work on it.

“Well, thank you. Thank you for sharing your story. I literally am dumbfounded at your ability”

and graciousness and gratitude through this process. Well, thank you and thank you all.

Thank you. Thank you. You're a special person. Now, after hearing Joe's side of the story,

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