Hi everybody, it's Anne Emerson.
off the top as a mom, as a parent, made me completely crazy. I mean, if you have a teenager
“that uses Snapchat that likes to go on sleepovers, you need to hear what happened in Madison fields.”
Nobody should go through this. It's breaking us down. That was Tyler Hearn, who you just heard. His daughter, Madison Fields, disappeared on Friday, February 13th. Madison had a backpack on her shoulder and a plastic bag in our hand as she walked through a parking lot next to where she lived in cold rain township. That's in Ohio. Her parents thought she was headed to a sleepover at her friend's house. That's what she told them. But it was in a
friend's mom that was waiting to pick her up in a black Jeep. And if you have a sinking feeling in
your stomach right now, your gut instincts are correct. Because here's where the story is going to make you so sick and seriously pissed off at the same time. Today, I'm talking to Madison's parents who are literally beside themselves with worry at this point. And later on, I'll be speaking to a volunteer who led this search and rescue effort to try and find Madison early on.
“But first, I need to lay out the terrifying timeline for you. The only way I can tell this story”
is through the seven-page federal criminal complaint. It doesn't tell us where Madison might be right now or what might have happened to her. But the details sure do pay in a picture. So right after she left for the sleepover, Madison got into the Jeep. Police say it was running to 43-year-old Kyle Lawrence from Buffalo, New York. Minutes later, her phone was turned off and she hasn't been seen or heard from since. We learned from this document that Lawrence told police that he had taken
Madison to hotels twice in January after talking to her on Snapchat. That's right, Snapchat. And that she referred to him as "dad bod" with the blue eyes. When I spoke with Madison's parents, her mom did most of the talking. And after hearing all of this, you can probably understand why her father stayed quiet. Carrying Tyler, I can't believe I'm even saying this, but we are on day 23 of looking for Madison. Am I right? Yes. Okay. Tell me how are you doing right now?
Just trying to hold in. What if that day's been like? They've been horrible, but we thought I have a lot of friends and family support us in the community. Do you have a community there at Coloring? Yes. I've been trying to go back to work, so I've been back to work. And you've got other children, am I right? Yes. We have another, we have a younger daughter on just him. How's she doing? She's having a hard time because her sister, Madison's
their best friends and they're very close and she's having a hard time. What do you want us to know about Madison? Tell me about your daughter? She's a very smart girl. She's very sweet. And then
this, and she always has a smile on her face. She's beautiful. Thank you. What is she like to do with
her friends? She likes them. Like, make TikTok videos of how kids are today like making. There's little singing videos and stuff. We want our viewers to do everything they can to help you.
“And that's why I'm going to ask you some questions so that we can start paying a picture”
of what happened. So we can help you. Everybody that watches my show or hears me right now on the podcast, please listen to this story. Listen to Carrie and Tyler. Let's figure out where Madison is. Okay. Tell me about what happened the day that Madison disappeared February 13th. She came home from school. My husband was at work. She asked when she came home from school. She asked me to see because it's been the night at her friends house. It was that they had a three-day weekend.
And I told her that it was that it was okay because she spent the night with her friend the week before. And I thought she was going straight to her friend's house. She was supposed to
Be picked up from her friend's mom from the place where staying at on the cam...
away. She disappeared and off the cameras everywhere. We just seen her walking, walking away
“on the street that's like right where she went missing. And she disappeared like right behind there.”
It then show her getting into a car. I'm not sure if it's the police or the FBI. If they were able to see her getting to this blockgeet that the guy was driving. They said they had it on
video but we've never seen it. Okay. But it shows her getting into a blockgeet with the
New York license plate and from what they said. Okay. And when did you realize that she wasn't with her friend? We didn't really shoot this missing until when she put she didn't respond to us or
“anything on Monday and it was starting to get late and she had school the next day. And it was”
not like her to not respond to us or call us to let us know. She was on her way home. And Monday's
that evening that's when we filed with the police that she's missing because we hadn't heard
anything from her. Probably was the last time you saw her but when was the last time you spoke with her was that at that same time? Was that the last time you spoke with her? Yeah it was on Friday. And her phone actually the police when they tried painting her phone. Her phone has been turned off like right where she was like in the cameras where the videos shows her on her phone, texting her it shows that her phone was turned off during that time. So it was like
literally maybe 15 minutes after she left. And we've not been able to get like pen her phone or anything since Friday. When you realized that she was gone you called the police on on that Monday. Tell me what the police were doing is sort of how you started looking for her right away. Just giving all the information that Madison told us and where she was supposed to be at and then we were looking at the cameras where we're staying at. That's well like seeing her like going
the hallways and leave and and the police like have searched back like even the month before and okay that her own camera just and they took like all the electronics from her sister and our electronics and everything and just trying to look to see like if they could see her like try to communicate at all on the electronics or any messages that could lead where she is at and then that's when that's when we've had been out about this kind of awareness man.
Kyle Lawrence the 43 year old man who is arrested in Buffalo, New York on February 26. The three federal charges are transportation within 10 to engage in criminal sexual activity travel within 10 to engage in illicit sexual conduct and the transportation of child pornography. Now what they
“have not charged him with is the disappearance of Madison Fields. Here's the thing. This is not the”
first time Lawrence has been on the FBI's radar. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
got two cyber tips in August 2023 and July 2025. In 2023 Snapchat user Kyle 2227 that's Kyle's built KYEL. claimed to have girls use sexual things for him. The IP address was plotted to Kyle Lawrence's address. In July 2025, the file sharing platform dropbox reported three
Files of CSAM, child sexual abuse material from the screen named Kyle Lawrenc...
In May 2024, a citizen vigilance group confronted Lawrence when they say he traveled to Canada
“to meet with another young girl of 15 year old for sex. The group posted the confrontation online.”
The complaint states, Lawrence never returned the FBI's calls. It sounds like he should have
absolutely been behind bars before he ever met Madison and we'll be looking further into why he wasn't previously arrested. What Madison's parents say next sounds eerily similar, now that we have that background. And that's when the police told us that she had been talking to a man on the encrypted website and that tells the FBI found out about him. We know Madison and Kyle Lawrence have been communicating on Snapchat, a photo sharing and messaging app
“with a content disappears. And this app I hadn't heard of before called Session is a fully encrypted”
messaging app where you don't need a phone number or an email address to sign up. We'll talk more
about these apps and the dangers they compose later in the center of you. This man out of Buffalo, this that's when you found out that that that was this man, this 43 year old man. Yes, what have investigators been able to share with you about what they know right now? I know he's now down in Butler County, jail. He's in Butler County. We've been told they've been questioning him and trying to figure out what they showed us, the pictures of him in the previous months,
like a picture with him in the swimming pool at a hotel with Maddie. And they have him on camera
at in two gas stations getting the drink and they showed us that at the police station. But, um, and then when I heard that he has came down from Buffalo New York, but like two times in the in the in the prayer months and we've been kind of being kept in the dark a little bit about about their investigation right now. What I understand is that the FBI got involved rather quickly didn't they when they realized what they were dealing with? Yes,
they were questioning us as well and they thought that they were asking us like questions like if we knew Maddie was talking to anybody online or anything. And that's when we were being questioned and they showed us the picture saying that we have a guy in custody from Buffalo New York. Do you know if he's given them any more information about where your daughter is right now? No, they won't tell us anything. Okay, so this is a really tough time, huh? This is a very,
very tough time in the investigation. Yes, as far as how we can support you and as you search for Madison, what would you like to say to folks, how can they help support you right now? Because we want to help. We keep trying to like repose termicing pictures and feeding the word out there like if anybody sees her or knows anything. To like come forward and call the chlorine police let them know any information they might know. They must come forward if they have no anything at all,
anything at all about where she could be. That's exactly what they need to do. And she could be wearing different clothes. Her hair could look different, right? Yeah. So anything that we can do. For whatever reason, if this gets to Madison, if somehow she could hear us talking right now, what would you like Madison to know right now? That we love and miss her. And that is epoxy.
“That we're not mad at her. And we just wear her back home. How are you doing Tyler?”
David. David. As far as the search goes on your own, are people out there looking right now?
We've had several search parties throughout the past weeks and get together.
Just the with her family. We've had, we've had even had people in the community like make help make us like little hints for with Madison's picture on it. I wanted to ask you that
surveillance video. You saw, you've never, I just want to make sure you've never seen this man before.
You've never had you. No. Did you see this surveillance video of her getting in that car? No. Okay, Carrie. Well, I want to just reach out to all of our viewers out here. All of our listeners, wherever you're hearing this interview with Carrie and Tyler, her, please share this episode. Please share their story. Please share the information about Madison because you want to bring her home as soon as possible. Because she's missed dearly and she's loved dearly. Just know that
we're here with you and we'll be following closely and hopefully you're going to get some really good news. So we'll be thinking about you every day. Okay. Thank you. And I really appreciate you and all the help like in trying to help us try to find our daughter. Like it means so much. We probably, we wouldn't have been able to probably get that like get this far without like helping support from friends and family and the community like and just everybody's
we're just thankful for everybody. Well, everybody's got to keep it up because we got to we got to bring Madison home. So that's that's everybody's job is to keep it up and keep looking for. So we'll share all of the information that we possibly can. If there's anything that you want us to share, please just we will we will do that. You can just hear the heartbreak in their voices.
“And that's why it's so important to do everything we can to share Madison's story.”
Now, let's hear from John Adams. He's with the Ohio land search and rescue. You're the Ohio land search and rescue. Can you tell me about that and what this organization does? Yeah. So we're now probably five won't see three of volunteer organizations. We, we assist law enforcement, lost missing persons. It can be the way from Alzheimer's, dementia, autism, uh, Pernos, schizophrenia, mental health issues. We do a lot of wellness searches,
urban searches, disaster services, things like that nature. We don't look for recognition stuff like that. This is something we enjoy doing. We love doing it. We got to pass you for it, you know. I got, we got strong team. We got 50 members. Pretty strong solid.
That's fantastic. Yeah. So basically what we do is that when we have a recruitment every year,
we have like two crewments a year. And we, we take all walks of life. You can be, doesn't matter what your experience is. We're built on, uh, we do have fire flyers, EMTs, police officers on a team. However, we have car breeders, electricians, plumbers, mechanics, long keepers. I mean, we have it all. That's great. I mean, Chief Adams, I understand that in this first few days, you were boots on the ground and instrumental in and helping
organize the search for Madison fields. Can you tell me a little bit about how you started
“searching for Madison? How did you get involved in that? Okay. So, um, I believe it was day six or”
day seven. Uh, we was reached out by the family. Uh, I believe it was the mother, request our services. And then we then we don't respond immediately. Even though, you know,
anyone comes missing. It's it's very critical. You know, the first $40 is very critical. However,
we operate in the, the 30 of the law force agencies for the MA or, you know, or if it's OD and all or something like that, that would request our services. So, the mother reached out to us, and we then got verified through the Coloring Police Department. Uh, they then gave us the, uh, the okay to go out of the system. And at that point, all already, you're telling me like six or seven days have already passed. What was going on during that
period? Do you know if anybody was on the ground looking for her besides the family? So,
“for us, I believe it was just families, friends, and the community, people from the community”
helping out. When you were looking for her, tell me what that looks like. Like, how did you
Organize the search?
members, we get the, the, uh, laughs of everything. What happened between the day one until the
day we was there from them. And then we base off what the areas they had checked into. So, therefore, we, we went ahead and, and kind of went over their steps of the areas they've searched. We had done that as well. Uh, and we want to be on that areas. We had areas sometimes at family, people don't think about hitting, um, you know, it could be dark terrain, drain pipes, uh, sewerage areas, covers, uh, you know, creek meds, things like that, and that nature.
“When you were, when you were searching, did you ever get any hits of where Madison might have been?”
No, we, we got a lot of tips, you know, people call in, and, you know,
oh, fortunately, some people do it for just to get recognition, you know, we just get the name out there.
Like, hey, you look, I've seen it over here, but we look into it. We, we, we take every tips seriously, out there in the field. So we check everything, and, you know, nothing, let's go on it. So you didn't get any direct messages? Did you use dogs in your search to use dogs? Uh, at the time we didn't bring any kind of K9s in from got it on a certain circumstances that she left her home and was seen getting to know the vehicles of their core.
I think we could bring the K9 out there with so many people. Right. That's a really good point. So yeah, I mean, they had surveillance video that she was getting into a, into a car. And they're learning a lot more about that as well. Now, how long, how long did your team stay involved? Uh, I believe we're in our four, four and a half days, four and a five days once. Uh,
“and then broke that gentleman from New York was involved in this case. You have to be out of”
all of it. So we, that didn't hold us like, hey, look, we'll just take a step back. We're always
available, but, you know, the FBI's involved. They have more, you know, resources that will real out. And, you know, we're just going to step back. And what does that look like when, when the FBI steps in, do you feel their presence sort of like coming into the investigation? Are they also boots on the ground? Yeah. So what do you tell me how they see as large as the FBI is? Uh, where are you going with the agency? Any time they come in, we're, we're always staying in
our side, you know, on the sideline, we're ready for them. But when they come in, that's actually it's a relief because they, like I said, the resources are so large. It's, it's unbelievable. You know, and it's obviously the evidence is, it's already showing that, you know?
“Well, exactly because then they can bring in their digital forensics teams, right? So they're now”
looking at licensed plate readers, cell phone connections, and they are learning a lot about when you communicate with Madison's mom. In this case, when your organization comes in, what does that conversation look like? What do you offer as far as the mom? Like what was that conversation like? All right. So initially that once the family member reaches out to us, we get on seeing, we actually we bring them in, the two artists to command trailer. And we speak
within, we go over from day one, what, what, what was the activities of the day? Was there just agreements with something? Did, you know, that they not follow the rules or, you know, I mean, it's just teenage or things. So we go with stuff like that and we move up until the actions that was taken up to the day she walked out of the house. So that moment she walked out. And then we try to figure out, okay. So we reached out to the friends, the family members, do you have any
family with local in this area? You know, the answer was no. So that's pretty much what we do. We just kind of go through 30 to 50 questions and zoom out things. And what did you learn as far as about what the family was doing at that point? They were, I understand they were in the like a town sweets, like they did stay place. What were you learning about where they were and where Madison was? Well, everybody's living in a situation different. And apparently the
facility that they was at, the establishment, they do long-time rails and stuff like that. And some people just find that easy, easier way out for them. But I didn't find nothing negative about anything. I didn't, nothing raised flags to me. Yeah. I was concerned about we're living the way they live. I mean, I overlooked those type of things. As none of my business, me on switching. My concern is to bring them missing level and own regardless. 100%. And as you saw
the urgency of this situation, you were like, it seems like there was a lag of time between when she left, when she left with the family, when she was no longer with the family. And then you have like, like, Friday to Monday, where then you don't know, then you're reporting
Or missing because you're like, she's not where she's supposed to be.
about where she was in those first critical hours or where she told her family she was so that
you had something to go on? Well, that was not even wrought into the conversation that we was, we was more concerned like, what, you know, if there was a disagreement home, where there's something that was sent to the child, would you ground it, whatever, the circumstances. But from said, they just asked us if she was going to a friend, I believe it was. Okay. And she left and that was that. So I guess from time frame when she left, we had the video footage to where
she was buying the establishment next door to them. She was at the, she was at a place right next door.
“You should cut a call support. And not, yes. And when she cut across the parking lot, you could see”
that on the video. Yes. Is that when she got in the car? I believe after the fact, yes, after she
grown across a lot, it was an area of where the vehicle was at, we couldn't see. So one of the law enforcement or, you know, the FBI had received other footage because we had did go around asked people, if anybody with video footage, the police turned into a call rate police department. I mean, as far as technology that you use, I mean, you've got people, you've got power of people getting out there and asking questions, right? Is there any other technology that you like to use
when you're doing these kind of searches? Well, every case is different, okay? So it depends on circumstances. So you lallicate your resources to certain, each certain scenario. But our resources would have been if we could call it out initially the same day that evening, whatever she was
“missing, you know, we would have canines out immediately that day. We had every camera, we could”
have seen an embassy. So and then knock on doors, you know, maybe business stuff like that. So that's all we could do, you know, sure. Drones, if it comes to like a around water or wilderness, something like that, almost the overcast isn't too bad or the coverage is too bad on trees, stuff like that. We had drones out there, thermal drones and infrared stuff like that. How many how many searches have you done like this? Lookin' for, you know, in, in, yeah.
The hundreds, hundreds. When you are going through the steps of the Madison Fields case, as you learn that there's now been this man 43-year-old Kyle Lawrence arrested in connection and that he admitted to meeting Madison twice, January 19th and the 31st. What's going through your head? Just take it off a warming, any missed challenge, you know, I mean, it's very serious to make, any missing parts of period. But because the children do you know just stuff like that, it's, uh,
it's work is starting. It's horrible. It is. A lot of times when we can, you just have that feeling, when you're out there and you're doing certain cases, like, you know, something's out right here, this isn't right. You know, so when you're in doubt, you go another route. So that's when you start reaching out to other resource and stuff like that and see what you can get done. We, we know there was more to, then I just walk around the city of Colorado and, you know,
right. And, you know, I'll be honest with you. There's some apps out there that no teenager should be on right now. Maybe this Snapchat is awful. That's one of the biggest ones that's been these teenagers in trouble. Have you seen cases like this with Snapchat before, where kids are going missing? Yes, man. I mean, thankfully, they was recovered. They was found. Chief, I'm so worried about this too because there's some telltale signs, right? You got a person who was allegedly
impersonating an 18-year-old guy named Josh. Yes. You got an app called session two. Yes. I'm trying to help parents and our viewers understand what this means. When you've got a 43-year-old man telling a 16-year-old that he's an 18-year-old, it's so bad. It is the worst.
“Truthfully, I think that these apps, the parents, it needs to be a big awareness about these”
apps. I was a familiar with this app to understand what I just heard about it, you know. Yeah, I'm right there with you. Like, do you, can you tell me what session app is? Because
I don't know what it is. I've never heard of the app. This is all new to me.
I told you earlier that this app session would come up again. It struck a chord with me as a parent myself. I was familiar with Snapchat, but this session app was new to me. It's an encrypted messaging app with extreme privacy, which sounds like a potential recipe for disaster for access to our kids. This reminded me of our conversation with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, where he blew my mind about the modern
day version of the kidnappers in the white van. You know, I briefly mentioned the kind of white
Van scenario that could be in kidnapped.
Now, it's in your living room. It's in your house. Navigating social media with kids is something else. And I know a lot of you listening are working through this scenario every day. We have conversations like this when not to scare you, but to inform you. So we can all do what we can to keep our kids safe. Let's get back into our conversation with Adams and Madison's case. I'm thinking, okay, so do he meet her on a separate app before him? So, hey, let's go to this
“app and talk. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, and that's what we can't be relaxed. They can't be”
traction. Exactly. So, I don't know, I mean, yeah. So, Snapchat, that's the biggest thing. I don't mean that my own son on earth, you know, you don't get all it. So, there's so much crooked people in the world.
It's unreal. But I've never heard a session. I just never have. I know. Well, I guess what's also
bugging me about this is that we now know this man who has been in charging connection, not with her actual disappearance, but in connection to this case, that he has a record of some activity involving minors before. This is a major cautionary tale right now. It is very much as I can't imagine what the family is taking right now who will throw for this? I mean, he he lied to her too. He lied to Madison too about who he was. He's not even from around here. So, he's not from the Cincinnati
area. He's all the way up in Buffalo. Is this mean that the search has now got to be looking at all the way up to Buffalo? I mean, is that what the feds are doing is like looking for where Madison could have gone between here in, you know, Cincinnati and Buffalo? And again, FBI is third of the resources that just don't end. You know, they just got brought, brought us back. So, if it continues up the New York, which me as an individual would think, okay, yes. So, if this
mess from New York, he's drove down there two times to meet her, you know, they pick him up in New York. So, I could imagine they're probably into your doing their homework too. So, yeah, they've got to broaden that search, right? They got a lot. We don't know what happened to Madison built at this point,
but we know what we've seen in cases like this and trafficking is always something I immediately
“worry about when I hear a scenario like this. Have you worked any trafficking cases before?”
Almost, I'm gonna say in the last five years, maybe three. Okay. Does it look like this? So, yes, I mean, we've actually found a girl here local missing and we found her in Texas. Okay. Tell me what that looks like. Just so we understand what the different snories are that we're dealing with here. So, now it's Snapchat. That just made my stomach hard. Yeah. So, it started out with Snapchat and then, uh, and turns out they met, uh, they spoke with each other,
then they met, they drove up here to pick the person that I'm not going to mention the name, this, the reveal. Look at the taxes. Oh, she was down there three, four days, maybe, before we were actually found out. She was there. Okay. How'd you find out? Hard investigator in Texas. Okay. We had some tips, and it turned out, you know, the girl had actually lived in Texas, probably 10 years prior to this, that she has her friends.
Okay. What? What? They haven't talked so long, but now they're talking, you know, social media whatever, and then Snapchat, and then they come up and got her, and she was brought up to an older guy as four years and stuff like that. Same crap. I mean, that just sounds like the same stupid crap. Yeah. That is very interesting to me. And I, I hope that will learn more through these digital records, because there's no way this guy, if he is in any way involved,
will not have a digital footprint of where this activity is going, right? That would be the whole point. Right. What can the public do to help in this case? What can we do? What can we,
what can our viewers do right now to help find Madison Fields and bring her home? It's always
“sharing her photo for a while for the Chicago's wherever that's guys at. That's where you need to”
share that. I mean, just get her out there. It doesn't matter if you do it once a week, but we like to see it done twice a day, just keep sharing. You know, some people like, well, why should we retire to see her, you know, we need to see this wire. So what, she's missing. She's a teenager. She's got a family at home. They love her. And they want to see her. They weren't back home. We always do that. You know, we, please share this far and wide.
And that's what we have to do. Keep their eyes out. Now, we don't know if I'm, I'm sure about
She's left in her pants and her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, but I'm s...
she's going to be different clothing. She may have, she's with someone else, may have died or
“hair, change the color rare, stuff of this scenario. So you got to think about it. Well, let's”
hope that Madison's watching, you know, that's always what I hope to, is when we, when we
air stories, you know, and talk about these cases that it's not only just people that might have
“run into it, the 7/11 or the grocery store, but that they themselves can hear us and know”
that we're looking for her as well, or that someone involved with where she is, you know,
because I have every, every hope in the world that we're going to bring her home. So I really
“appreciate your time and, um, and thank you for doing what you do. It's, it's, it's so important.”
Drop a comment below. How do you feel about teens using Snapchat? Be sure to like and subscribe to comely obsess and also share this interview if you can. We need to find Madison Fields. And if you've seen her or know her whereabouts or know anything about her disappearance, you're urged to call the Coloring Township PD and Ohio. The number is in the caption.


