Lamar Odom on Kobe's Message From the Afterlife, Khloe Kardashian & Why the Lakers Are Losing

It saw you know it was a dream.

We haven't had a shooting contest, but Billy Christo was hosting it.

“You know I'm dreaming, you know I'm dreaming, you know?”

He looked back at me and he said, "Hello." The afterlife is not what people make it up to be. What's up guys, Mr. Xack here. Welcome back to episode 15 of Double Coverage. Today I'm joined by L.A. Legend.

No, no, it's too much. Two time champion, former NBA six man in the year. That's a fact. My guy, Mr. Lamar Odom, hello. How are you doing, bro?

What's good? I'm chilling, man. L.A. Legend's fair. I've walked around doing L.A. Everyone recognizes you pretty much.

I don't know if that make you a L.A. You play with Kobe. I did play with Kobe. You helped get him two of championships, you know? Yeah, so the best of my ability.

Yeah. And you want to... I learned a lot from dude, bro. Definitely learned a lot from dude.

“If you were the trenches with Kobe, I think you're a legend.”

That's... I hear that. I get that. Bill Jackson, the whole nine yards. Yeah.

Yeah, I got the whole Xenemy. Yeah. The whole lesson. I learned how to manifest and meditate. You know, if you got 12 or 15 young men,

meditate until a dessert will be saying, go, you've seen the results. Meditation is like a form of prayer, right? So definitely learned a lot from Phil and M.B. We were talking about it earlier,

but you got thrown into the spotlight, professional basketball, it's such a young age. You were there at the first game played. I mean, we're really right by Staples Center now. I was 19.

Yeah, in '99. So, man, in fact, my number one boost at UNLV, he was friends with a guy that was in the still business. And this is 1997. And he says, look, I want to serve this blueprint.

I got for this building, I'm about to build. They want to call it Staples Center. And I wanted, you know, having a good game in my first game. I don't know if we want to lose, but I lost a lot of games with the Clippers.

Yeah. And yeah, I lost a lot of games with the Clippers.

And I was always like looking over.

Thinking about how it would be playing on the other side. And then you know, I played one year with Miami. And then my agent gave me a call. I had to okay to trade to come here, back to LA. But that was an easy choice for me,

because I got an excellent signing bonus. I knew I was going to be playing with being Bryant, who I've known before to NBA. And I was going to be able to ride this coat tell a little bit, play basketball at the highest level.

And compete against the best. And I'm trying to bust it out. Because you know, everybody, you know, the luck is a purple and gold. And I would judge these are popular.

And we got to probably the best fit in NBA according to what you want to do. How you want to go out.

And it was a ride that I never forget.

Absolutely.

“The only thing people I think really come back”

to the little Clippers teams is Donald Sterling. That's basically-- He's a nut. Yeah. He was a nut.

Yeah, I pray for people who have that mindset. There's mentality. I think he got a trouble for using the N-word. Yeah, it's all the team. Yeah.

And that's too bad. He got way too much money to think like that. If you go down, we'll ship out of all. You see his down the Sterling build, his down the Sterling, his down the Sterling, that. We had a really strong season with Miami.

That was a pretty blockbuster trade. I mean, you're involved, Shaq. Yeah. Me and the two other players. Yeah, Chris.

Come on, but I'm Brian Gray. Well, you were the centerpiece, at least for what the Lakers were acquiring. Is that a compliment that you're involved in a trade for Shaq? I mean, I think so if you look at it like, you know, what I mean, Shaq, he was dominant.

Yeah, that's decent. And it's time. But I mean, you could consider it, you know, sometimes I wonder, you know, what if I would've got three or four more years with the way in which we're going to happen in that beautiful city.

What we could do is make the best of it.

And, you know, L.A. always had open arms for me and treated me well because they were

able to perform with the clippers. But even though even though my greatest times with the clippers, you know, sometimes I feel a little regret to the people, you know, in L.A. because I was cutting them short, you know, I couldn't be myself if I was, you know, running home.

“You know, so I think about all the plays I could have made or should have made.”

You know, you know, that time is passed and it's time for me to move on and move forward and live my best life now as we speak. You had that point forward build that we see all over the NBA today. Six nine with a handle can pass can shoot. Yeah.

Yeah. I think, you know, that was a blessing from God to be able to be my height and still maintain

his guard attributes, almost always the way I played basketball through the eyes of a

point guard. No matter what position I played, I was, you know, really blessed to pick up on the game and understand it and have an eye high IQ. And I basically know the responsibility for every position on the court, you know, because I played them and I played hard and it was all a long experience for being

from New York City. You know, if you don't handle the ball, you don't got no shakes in your game. And I remember when to high school, I was, I started high school, I was six three. And my sophomore season, I was six, seven. So yeah, I mean, a lot of people would have probably changed their game because of that,

but in the strength of my game was my height and my, my hand was the call it. And my ability to make a play, but my ability to make a play for others, you know, and that started in the park, you know, to get on the court, I was, I was ten, I was five, ten. And I was, you know, and I was playing, I was playing 15 and under. How old were you?

Ten. Yeah, I was five, ten and I was ten and so. And I remember going to the park and, you know, lying about my age telling everybody what I was 12, that was just to get on the court, but, you know, once I got on the court, I earned respect, and I think it was because I understood the science basketball, you know,

it's not rocket science, but there's a science to it.

“And that's what I was trying to, you know, perfect, or be the best act, having an all around”

game. I think it, when we talk about handling it, especially being a big man in the, yeah, I think I probably had to be, if you consider me a big man, probably I had to end. I probably was the, I don't want to, my own home, but I don't know a big man that was using his, no shaking ability to make his defender move, so he can go straight.

So, I guess you could probably say I'm a, I have the big man, I have the best hand who probably ever in NBA, but like you said, I see a lot of, you know, see a lot of 6, 9, 6, 10 guys, and they're giving the ball on it and do their thing, and I can say I see myself and all of those guys just a little bit. Yeah, position was basketball today, I mean, there's one guy who's 7 foot 5 and there's

a good one behind me, right? Yeah. I'm pretty sure he probably, you know, took some of them all with him on his buckle. Yeah. But he's special.

Yeah, he's, I mean, if he stays healthy is running the stopping him from just being the best ever, I mean, I, well, if he's one person that I would pay to watch right

now is him, my his games come on out, I notice I always find TV, so I always say because

“high plays and who he plays for, San Antonio, I played the right way, even though I think”

he floating a little bit out to the 3.9 a little bit, but, you know, that's the, the Steph Curry curse, his greatness, you know, heard the game, was not his fault, but I know if I get a kid right now, 10 years old, 8 years old, 9 years old, from wherever and I give my basketball when we go to the park, he probably going to shoot the ball from the first

Yeah. I'm saying.

And, you know, that's due to Steph Curry's greatness, and he, he was amazing.

Still, and I, I hope kids, you know, just not learning from him, you know, shooting, I hope they watch how he moves without the basketball. That's for each other days, like if you're a kid playing basketball and you're calling for the ball, like that's whack. Yeah.

I hope that he learns, you know, they learn that part of the game, that's another science part of it. And how he takes care of his body and just the conditioning it takes, he's 37 years old running

on the court, all the game, I mean, no one does more than him.

No. I mean, NBA is really kind of hard for me to watch, like a random game, everybody play the same way. Yeah. Like, how to see a dribble handle up to a pick and roll, no format, but, you know, that's the way

the game is. It's got to change these times, right? Yeah, get a change these times. I mean, triangle offense one, 10 NBA championships. What made Phil so special, was it the system, the triangle offense, was it his ability to

manage personalities?

“Well, I think, I think, you know, every coach, I think, to be successful, that's one of”

the things that you have to, you know, learn the most, you know, have the most common sense of you got, you know, 12 or 15 guys in the team in the locker room and managing personalities very important. You know, Phil used to give us a book, you know, books before the season and the expected you to read it, and his mental approach, like I was telling him before, you know, we

meditate together as a team and meditation is a form of prayer, and it was really strong, and, you know, I definitely brought us together, and it was something that a lot of us heard but we didn't really expect it until we got in, got in it, and I made a lot of sense when you think about it though and he used to bring a special specialist, a mindful specialist to come, to come teachers, manifestation, and meditation right around play or time, his name

“was George Mumford, I think I got some books out too so if you want to get a good book, try”

to exercise your brain, exercise your mind, you know, they was a good guy, and so we went one, two, seven, being a long time rivals right across the street, and that was a beautiful night. 'Cause it's, I mean, first he manages Rodman, Pippin, Jordan, all together, then he goes to LA, bright lights are test, I mean, there's crazy stuff going on too, like, you're

filming a reality show later on, Kobe's Kobe, I'm probably the only person in the sports figure that was able to film a successful reality show, while in season, that was the year I won six-minute year, and some people would be thinking things are unattainable or that you can't do them, but with the support of the Lakers and Gene and Dr. Bus, so I bless

a day, they okay with it, and I was able to pull that off, the cameras was always rolling.

You know, from Tom's wake up to practice, I'm ending my night, and it was worthwhile.

“I think my, you know, my connection with that family, so it was gives me some, what's the”

word I'm looking for, some, social, notability, you know, even to this day, and I was in blessing as well. Absolutely, do you think it may motivate you a little bit more? I think so, just because people would thought that I couldn't do it, or people would probably be expecting me to, you know, to fail for me to fall off a little bit on the court, so

I kind of, um, kept a file lit under my ass, you know, the file I always had to play basketball, I knew, especially in LA, um, for strong media, almost as strong as New York,

get off the show or whatever people may say, um, it definitely acted as if I had another

coach, basically, it definitely pushed me in the right way, you know, but no matter what

“the coaching style is, or, or who's coaching, I think, because how I was raised, I'm”

being able to adapt, you know, I like to listen, I love to learn, and I'm not going to be disrespectful, but not going to be disrespectful, especially when somebody's trying to make me or his team better, you know, I hear a lot of the, um, you know, the generation now, they got the, the bad reputation for being uncultiable, and you know, I can say to all

those young guys, like, you probably good, but, you know, my generation, I could say

Kodi Bryant was probably the best generation, right, generational play on my imagination, you know, I'm going to say the 81 points, you know, now in game when it's one season, walk off three to one, we went, had nine of them in one season, and, uh, I remember this ninth one, we were in Milwaukee, and I remember him, um, being on the back of the bus, saying right next to me and Derek Fisher, and, you know, how, you know, sometimes after a game, your journey is still running, you know, flowing, and, uh, he was just mumbling, I'm better than Mike, I was looking at my bugging, but, you know, that's how competitive he was, because a lot of players,

that was a race that they weren't going to run, even when it had start, and, you know, from playing with them, and, and being in the trenches with them, like you said, you know, he, he made that a goal, and so if, you know, a lot of people say he even came close to it, and,

“I think you see this play, I think the world's in this play, I was talking to my friend about this other day, like, you know, the honor court responsibility,”

playing the LA, and I could say showing up every night, every night, a lot of what he gave these people in money's worth, I mean, even his last game, yeah, 60. Even when he heard of something, playing them all, he hit the free throw. He said a kid he's tended injury, you know, and wherever he at, he's not too far away. I think his sneaker might be the most worn sneaker in the NBA. Yeah.

And we know what we all know how popular joints, sneakers were. So I could imagine what we were going on if he was still here. What was your relationship like with him off the court? It was cool. I was like, you know, there was one book that I was reading, and, what's it?

I think it was his book, might have been his book. And he called me the blue. Oh, the team. I don't think that was the blue honor court. I think it was more like the blue, like the locker room.

I mean, I think sure everybody was laughing and good mood. Yeah.

You know, I mean, just being myself, seemed to ease people, you know, because he was always...

You know, like, you know, at 9/30, we had him morning before. I don't know if ever seen his clip, but we bought the jump ball and practicing. He just elbow shots of wheelchair to the chest, like, there's all. And I think we all kind of adapted to that mentality a little bit. And he was the guy who always expected the best out of his teammates.

Didn't accept anything less. That was the momentality. Yeah.

“Because that's how he was living for real.”

And, you know, he put it out all the time.

You're confident, just because he's with you. Yeah. And that definitely made us all better and alert. And bonded us. You know, prior to the championship team, probably bonded us forever.

We got a bond that's looking every broken. Shout out to anybody that was on my team at those times.

We don't really see each other much, but they're always in my heart and the prayers in my mind.

Absolutely.

“He ever gotten your case about the candy or anything?”

No. No. We never really bumped heads about anything. If we bumped heads was about a play. You know what I mean?

You know, maybe I wasn't paying attention, or I wasn't there. I didn't execute. But no. No, anybody know that was my thing. No, that was like the thing when you first run the Kardashians.

I remember like they would show the cutaways where you with all your candies. Yeah. My ex-wife, I had a whole heart of hope, my own, or a man cave, and it was full of candy. And I love candy to this day. But, you know, I learned something from the rema rehab stint.

I'm like five points away from being diabetic. And I got to watch my pop-tart intake. What will pop-tart flavor do you go for? Everyone. I think I got a new one called Banana Braves really good.

What was your peak candy intake like? How much were you eating? I mean, I can't even really, man.

“My man Mac, who's a take care of me, he was like my man.”

Shout out to Mac, Anthony McNeigh, another New York City basketball legend. I mean, I just begs everything.

Because you could never have enough candy.

You know, man, at that point in my life, but I got to watch that now. I don't want to my chopper my foot off. You're not burning as many calories. Because I want to eat candy. I don't mean no sense.

No, definitely not. You talk about it. We also talk about wanting to move past that, the what ifs. You know, what could I have done different? But knowing that, you know, only thing you can do is continue to move forward.

Yeah. That take a while. Well, it's like, you know, if you have a view of attic and you practice a sobriety, it's, you know, day-to-day. Yeah.

Right. And so I guess that's like my outlook and life. Or anything I want to do. You know, it's really, it's God's plans, right? It's time.

You know, some things that we might want. You know, it's been millionaires because of social media. And everything that making millions of dollars. Yeah. You know, you just keep to the same plan.

“But God might say you have to make 10 years or 20 years.”

But I think as long as you're staying focused.

You know, keep the creative first.

You know, anything is possible. You said it's time for you to watch some basketball games or what else you're watching at home. Any other sports, TV shows, movies, talks about Moses. Yeah. It's funny because I was watching Netflix other than like, damn.

I guess so much to pick from. Yeah. And, you know, like, even if I'm watching TV, I like to watch something that maybe I'm a learn from a little bit. Yeah.

I still don't know how to cook. But, um, I don't know. I just try to watch stuff that I can learn from. I love the ID channel too, but you know, I'm not trying to learn how to kill nobody. But I like the ID channel as well too.

Um, I don't know. I just, I like TV. Of course I like sports. Baseball season's about. Then back around.

I can't wait to. One of the Dodgers game. Of course. We got our guy Dave Roberts. Who's Dave Roberts on the manager?

Okay. Yeah. He's dope. Yeah. He's dope.

He's the man. Yeah. He's dope. But that, um, I don't know where's the top of that. Japan.

Yeah. He's Japanese to the manager. You know that? I don't know that. He's half Japanese, half black half Japanese.

Okay. I can see that. So that's why they get all the. Yeah. I can see that.

It's kind of crazy. Well, what's honey is, uh. Oof. A beast. And he's one of the best to watch.

I mean, control the game from the mound. And then you go hit three farmers like he did. This past season. Um. It's definitely inspiring watching a play with baseball.

He plays hard too. Um. He's in the great market. They play them well. And he does, uh, he's making a, um.

It's inspiring. Probably to a lot of. For me, I'm an adult. And watching him is playing some inspiration. So I've got imagine being a.

A little league of. You know, watching a play and play is like that. Don't really come around a lot. And I just hope never. Yeah.

I just hope that everybody's soaking it in.

We're not one in 10 billion.

It's number 17, right? Yeah. I hope everybody's soaking it in. Um. By an autonomous.

He's buying number 17 jerseys. I know he can a lot of love in LA. Um. Yeah. But he's definitely inspirational.

“You believe that it was a translator gambling or do you think it was him?”

I don't know. That's another thing was sports starting now. I'm trying not to follow that because, um. I don't think sports gambling was. As big.

When I was playing. No. And, um. Or even for a guy that has a 200 million contract. You know, you're putting it in his face like that.

He can make an extra. You know. But sports gambling really don't stop. There's no. Peak on how you can go.

Yeah. And, um. I just hope that old leagues have that. I'm a control. Doesn't seem like they do.

I mean, you can't really. You got MBA coaches getting arrested. Players. You can give it to the people. Yeah.

The mafia's involved. So much. Where do I know the mafia has something to do with that? And then you add the sports. I just hope we don't carry over to a guy's performance.

You never got an offer to throw a game.

Even high school. Nothing. No. Honestly, I could say no. That's good.

And I always play at a high level. And kind of respect the game too much. Yeah. But, um. You know, some of these dudes.

You know, they train their hardest and. Give their heart to a game. Give their put all in and a game. They're all they're heart into a game. You know, I hope to see the game.

You know, get stained. Um. You know, while I play, I'm making a bad decision. Too fat in this pockets a little bit. Yeah.

I, you know, hope to leave, you know, they should. I'm trying to do something about that. All the leaks. The lakers are real rocky right now. You don't play on defense.

No, I'm playing on defense. I don't know if they have to make a. Uh. I move. I don't know if it's coaching.

I don't know if it's a players. But the effort in the energy is not there tonight. And, you know, everybody could score the ball. Nobody wanted to defend it. Yeah.

I'm going to put that effort and energy in the defense. And defensive rebound. Defenses a team game. And every sport. Especially football.

And you know, in basketball. She's a baseball even too. The team don't grip up. Then, you know, you could expect to lose. Yeah.

I mean, you should expect to lose.

And NBA, you got always, you know, great.

Great shooters. Day to day. I, you know, I rather. I love the game.

“I think I rather watch college basketball right now.”

Yeah. Well, the lakers are soft. Yeah. There's a lot of whining that they're tough to watch. They really are.

I mean, well, the game is softer. Yeah. He's an objective like Luke Ugg, the one of the greatest offends of players. Everybody cries every single possession. Well, he's, he's probably spoiled you.

Yeah. It's really tough to watch. He's been an NBA. He's been a pro since he was 13 years old. Yeah.

14 or 15. And, and, um, I don't think they probably ever even, axed him to get three stops in a row. No.

And just because he's got the size and ability. He really wanted to. He could do it. He's the first person on the basketball. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that energy translate with him. And then the culture too.

“It's like, you have to push him to play defense.”

And you have to let your team know like, you know, we have a weak defense player. So we have to come around with schemes. And, you know, cutting the floor off. You know, especially when his man has the ball.

And he's being aggressive. But I love watching them. You know, I was a,

One time I career time. Obviously he's one of the best players in the NBA. Oh, yeah. He's all time great. But it's just, you know, an NBA that got this thing cold.

It makes me sick to a two way player. Hmm. Like. Yeah. You know, when you have the ball, you're an offense.

You don't have it on your own defense. Yeah.

“I think a two way player should be anybody's mentality.”

Yeah. And they're none of them really have that mentality. It seems like I would hate to be called a two way player. That's right. Well, you mean I'm a two way player.

I'm playing basketball. You know. So I think that starts a lot with these. With the coaches. You know, the coaches kind of.

Fall into how the game would be in play. And not the way it should be played. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's complaining a lot.

He was always more of a, uh, of a less score first.

Yeah. Type of center. Yeah. I was reading one article and he said, "What? They're trying to turn the game.

They're trying to turn the game. I'm trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game.

They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game.

They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game. They're trying to turn the game.

Yeah. I was reading one article and he said, "What? They're trying to turn me into a clink compelant." He said that. Clink compelants are a great player.

He's a remprotector.

“I think the Lakers probably need a more, probably better than him.”

Yeah. And, you know, that type of mentality spreads. Yeah. Did everybody want to get stops and take charges and do the, do the nitty-greed things that it takes to win consistently?

Yeah. And I don't know how Lakers got away from the triangle. Yeah. Like, it works pretty good. I've got my only one turning the championship.

Yeah. And like, you know, we're all around still. I'm pretty sure of the axe, me, Derek Fisher, Paul Gissol, the triangle is a small fraternity of us that know it. Yeah.

And, you know, within that small fraternity, all of us have won. Consistent championships. I've been able to follow up for championship with a championship. Yeah. They got the formula.

Um, you know, I spoke to Paul and he said the kids don't want to run. Mm. Out of his mouth. I'm like, I'll be representing the back of the jersey or the front of the jersey. Yeah.

Because, um, you know, no, all bullshit aside, I have a lot of Lakers pride. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? Everybody who's ever been around me knows that.

I always want and expecting to do well.

And when they don't, or not, because it's on a consistent basis, I mean, and then you and that label, like, It's the home of the one that I'm saying. I'm looking at that place. You know, right down from us to S.B. Colby's crib.

Literally. Just because he put out every night. Put his towel. And, you know, I hope they're good together together. They're good together, hopefully in playoffs.

Thanks so. Try to get some stops. You got a time to take it back to, like, practice. Yeah. I don't think this, like, core can all work together, because they,

Davis was so perfect as he played, you know, great defense and cleaned everything up. But I don't think it was a bad trade. Oh, for the future, it's the best trade. But the current is tough. I think you have to just sit that.

Sometimes.

“You've got to start over a little bit, I think.”

And life. Yeah. We've got to adapt on a fly. Yeah. You know, if you don't, things will go past you and get past you.

Yeah. I mean, I don't understand for two or three more seasons. If I don't, the next, you know, nation. Yeah. I think Lebron's gone after this.

He age, I think, is called up to him. Finally, only took 22 years. But that's, you know, every athlete. He had the great, he had Lebron love him or hate him. Greatest longevity in the history.

I don't even have somebody says the hate Lebron.

And then you're always in half critics.

So people hate it on Kobe too. You know, what do you call a player hate her? Yeah.

He always played the right way.

22 years finally took like a step back.

“After guys opened and you should pass it.”

Yeah. You know, after not, you know, you're good enough to take the shot. But I've been in love with his game and how he played it. Um, you know, obviously takes care of his body. Yeah.

And that's a job in itself. If you want to play. We say spends a million dollars a year on it. I'm not surprised. If you want to play on the highest level at this level.

I have another respect. But respect for Lebron James and I, um, tremendous self on a cool higher tax to court. I mean, you know, I think every father.

Um, all the fathers that are my age.

Now, we love Lebron James because he did. We're all the CEOs. Do the half sons. They bring them right along with him. Yeah.

And, you know, shit. Which player? I don't know. No, no player. And I would turn that opportunity.

No. Because they say no they're lying.

“You know, to be on the same team is your, your, your baby boy.”

Yeah. You know, I mean, if he only did that. And he was, and he had no championships. He's a champion of my eyes. Just for that.

I mean, gosh, Lee.

You think about, you know,

and being a number one pick at 18. That 18 year old boy, you probably couldn't convince him that. His bra and he was going to be on the same team with him. Yeah. One day.

No. He was like the ultimate CEO, corporate mover. You know, the NBA is a player's league. And obviously, he has a lot of power to make that happen. Because they were probably some, you know, some dudes that, you know, didn't get picked.

Yeah. But shit. I was the same thing. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. One last thing I want to touch on. I want to get a little bit more in depth about the Netflix doc. Oh. And in the trailers, you say, the afterlife is different than they say.

It's not often you see someone alive that knows what it's like to be dead. That was, um, I had a dream about Kobe. Um, when I was, um, I was shooting a reality show. I don't know if you ever heard of it's called Big Brother. Yeah.

But, um. I was probably one of the toughest things I ever had to do. And, uh, you know, my man came to me in the dream. And, uh. I saw you know it was a dream.

Because we were having a three point shoot out. We're having a shooting contest, but Billy Christo was hosting it. So you know, I'm, uh, you know, I'm dreaming. Yeah. I don't even know how you hold the two points.

Yeah. A shooting contest. But, you know, Kobe was so great at his, um, shot making. Because I'm left handed. So when I stepped up to my shot, I stepped right left.

You right handed. So when you stepped up to yourself, you stepped left. Right. When he was so. And the deck trees was his footwork that it didn't matter which foot he stepped into.

He was able to make the shot. You know what is right here. So we have in the three point, we have in the shooting contest. And I remember it was Billy. I get to the top of the key.

And it's a little too deep. And so I stepped left right. And I'm copying him. So the next one I take right left was a little too deep. I missed it for I missed it.

And I took it again and I made it. And then we got to the right side of it. And he just stopped. And he looked back at me and he said, hello. The afterlife is not what people make it up to be.

And then I woke up shortly after that.

“And I just made me think like, what is he trying to say?”

Like, you know, could he miss everybody? You know, that can mean a multitude of things. Maybe he's still traveling. You know, so we're here. We got to wherever he has to go or have to get.

I don't know where to met. But I just take it as like, you know, live your best life now. Yeah. You know, don't sell yourself short because I died.

Who are you going here for me?

And yeah, it's just. I think there's a lot in life. You know, that we are on that floor. What is your friends, your family, your money? Whatever you fall in love with is like love it now.

Because we've seen from his accident like nobody's promise tomorrow. Yeah.

“And I think that's the biggest lesson that I learned from his life.”

Because when he passed away, I've got the news. I was in Atlanta. And I was with my man. He passed away. So, yeah, I was with my man.

And he was throwing up. You know, I'm his brother. And whatever the way the world spins and rotates,

it felt like it started turning the other way.

Now I remember coming back here from the shooting room. I could, like, um, like that being a single, uh, Phil Collins song, you feel it in there? Like the gut punch, like, like the grief. And, you know, we don't know a nose.

I don't know my time. My grandma, I grant one grandmother's mother's mother's mother, passed away on her 80th birthday. June 29th. And that's especially birthday for me because that's also the day

that my son passed away from six. You know, June 29th. And that's when I was living right. Sometimes I asked myself, if I was home, because I was out all night.

And I'm just trying to, you know, be present. Yeah. It's much as possible. Now I'm 46. I can't, I'm 46.

But, you know, like, my grandmother,

I got one grandmother's been in the same project, apartment for 70 years. 70 years? Where? She's 99 years old.

Oh, my God. So I figure, you know, if I got one grandmother or a living project building for 70 years, and she 99,

“I think, you know, because of, you know, my ability to take care”

of myself and get a giga to, yeah. I respect my, you know, I'm talking shit right now. But I think I could live to Moses lived to. He was worth 120. I think I got a block in me.

All right. I like it. I mean, I'm going to need a lot of track outfits or something easy, something that looked good. That's easy to put on.

But, um, yeah. You know, I think I got a block in me. I thought, you know, keep my head on straight. You know, love my fellow man and keep my soul, right? Then why not?

My God. I want to see it. Well, I'm going to do it. You probably won't be here. If I live to 100, you probably won't be here.

I'll be dead. I'll be dead. I'm going to say it. If I live to 100, that's not it. I'm going to be alive.

I'm going to say you're going to be like, I'm going to put that on. I'll be 78. It's not that bad. You know, you're right. You got a shot.

But it's just like, it's just like, um, something Jewish. We got good doctors.

“Some time I think about my grandmother's like,”

she and like, we're the only friends. Think about that. If you live to you 99, all your buddies and all like, No, true. They're gone.

Yeah, they're gone. They don't say. Like, they out of here. Yeah. I would say in my life, I mean,

especially coming from a dude that died before. You know, um, I got, you know, got to put me in for a reason, too. I don't know if it's a spread the word. It's a variety, or I don't know.

But once I get it down, pack it and it's going to be no stopping me. You know, but he definitely spared me. Should I had 12 strokes or six heart attacks when I was in the coma? Yeah. Like, you know, when I woke up, I couldn't walk at talk.

They said I wasn't going to ever walk or talk again. I got having a conversation with you right now. And I was, you know, getting my diaper changed and see the sign that every three hours.

I, I told you, but like, my mother traumatic brain injury on 13,

“they said, like, if she lived, she's not going to walk or talk, you know?”

Yeah. And she's in a wheelchair and now she's perfect. It's crazy. God. God is good all the time.

It's probably sharper than before that. It's not. It's crazy how the body works. I will protect herself. Who trauma?

Yeah. You know, only he has answers for that. Because I'm like a medical miracle when my doctor's tell me. And the same like addictive type personality, like, I think if we get like, but there's a box of popsicles, like,

I'll have one. She'll have 12. Yeah. My mom. What?

What would you have so many?

They pronounced me dead a couple. They were just a couple of times. My family told me like the doctor said, you know, you know, I might want to see him this one last time. Yeah. You know, so you're, you're definitely a life number two or three.

Yeah. So for me to be able to beat that. You're like a cat. Yeah. I ain't get to nine yet.

But right. I'm not. We were close. Yeah. I won't throw six heart attacks.

You know, I don't even really want to, you know. If you partying, then I leave the room. Yeah. Yeah. No good.

Um. You know, and this is a place where you can get anything anywhere. Oh, LA is tough, yeah. And that, you know, me and my friends were like the only sober house in LA. I don't know.

Um. Tell my mom, myself. I said was up. No, we're going to tell them what's up. But, um.

“You know, life is too good and it's too short.”

One last thing today. And people were surprised that Chloe. Your ex wife is one of like the main people in the dog. How did that come about? I don't know.

You would have the ex too. Oh, Netflix to care of it. Yeah. Because, um. Um.

You know, my last time being around her was like. Um. I can't. I don't got to pay her to was like being in detention with the principal. You know, why am I?

But it takes time for us to, um. Yeah. Because, you know, it seems like it just happened yesterday. Yeah. At least to me.

And so, you know, you're dealing with a woman and you know, you're doing it. Coming out or women coming out. To the tabloids. Yeah. You know, that's probably one of my worst.

My biggest mistakes ever. It's that I told God I was going to take care of his woman and be with her forever. And, um. Step down. Like I've lied to her on his face.

And, you know, death could. The force could be like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I'm not in contact with you and my brother-in-law.

Yeah. You know, who I, you know, was in staged or it wasn't part of the script. I mean, him to get along the way we did. Yeah. You know, but, you know, even in death, even when people pass on and along your head,

you still have to live your life and move on and try to turn shit in the sugar. And, you know, it's painful. But, yes, something I would great now, you know, mentally I'd be paying for probably for the rest of my life. You can tell on the clip that like the love is still there.

You know, well, you know, I mean, shit.

“Honestly, you don't matter somebody in 30 days and then forget about it.”

Yeah. You know what I mean? I can't imagine that. I'm leaving. I'm only most people can't like.

Me either. And for two people in the position that we were in, you know,

if you didn't even hold them, and I didn't need to be the first black dog to ask me.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They just happened that way. Everything was, you know, genuine. And I loved it.

We got some more after. Yeah, the love that they showed for Kanye. You know, you can't, you know. I don't think Kanye America can. Yeah, yeah.

They got, well, four kids. Yeah. Yeah, he was second. He was second. But, um, yeah, you know, that love was, what was genuine?

Because it was the word in a script. Yeah. We just went on for how we felt. Yeah. And we were at at the time.

Um. Yeah. I think about that life and that lifestyle. Just imagining that like a married to a car. It's like the red carpet rolled out of where you were.

Yeah. No, it's a movie script. Yeah.

So it was an amazing time.

It's probably worth the movie. I would say. But. Some of the story for another day. And that's where, from the day.

Yeah. Appreciate you. I went through it. I'm happy to see you sober and out of rehab and doing well.

“I mean, the best is you have to come a little brother.”

The best is you have to come. Um. We have feel like, um, yeah, because it's just feeling like my third life. Yeah. So there are times to charm.

Yeah.

I've never, you know, shit.

I'm like, what? Thirty five days sober right now. Um. I feel good, you know. I try to look it.

I got to get used to win these glasses. Like I told you, um. I look like you're about to drop a book or something. Yeah. It's a good distinguished look.

Yeah. But that's a fright. That's why our people wear glasses. Yeah. A little bit.

My focus.

But do you understand that?

Um. I needed them. Yeah. No, you dreaded. You know what I'm saying?

Like I might the school. I'd buy your book. Yeah. I might the screen. I'm squinting.

“So I was like, when I was in rehab, I made it.”

Um. But I appointment for a doctor. And my father's the way glasses. I might be a style book. I'm going to change the style up a little bit.

Make a more like the joke and look. All right. That's times comes. So next time I'll see you have a different person. I need some buffs, you know.

Nice and diamonds in there. Some gazelle glasses or something like that. All right. Oh, man. Please change you for coming on.

He loves words. Tell the fans. Oh. I love you for loving me. Take care yourself.

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